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Speaker 1: Now let's get into what we came here for. NFL

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Speaker 1: O Joe, they mad at you NFL fans, little Heart

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Speaker 3: Listen, I got it. I got something to say all

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Speaker 3: Let's understand what they did now, young bull, that's that's

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Speaker 1: I mean give it time. Well they used to didn't

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Speaker 3: See, it's a good thing, Clavis Hunter. If people understand

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Speaker 3: He done tweeted me. Now he didn't got me. I

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Speaker 3: All these avid gamer all these mad enthusiasts like y'all

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Speaker 3: because if you were really good, the rating wouldn't matter

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Speaker 2: But I had to get the game of tag and

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Speaker 3: You like that, Joe, don't do that to your death, Joe,

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Speaker 3: I'm like that, Yeah, Joe, Hey, hey Joe, they call

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Speaker 3: that game and stuff. Man, that's all I do. Hey, Joe,

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Speaker 3: I lost relations I lost, Hey, Joe, he I lost

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Speaker 1: I think to say, look, Derrick Henry has a case

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I ain't a ninety nine. You're like,

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Speaker 3: So, look, they're everybody in ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what I would do, but let.

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Speaker 3: Me taste something though. And Joe, Hey, the players really

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Speaker 3: Joe, I didn't got I didn't. Got a few text

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Speaker 3: they don't know the rate. No, I know, I'm watching film.

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Speaker 3: Don't just play good when it's somebody that you know

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Speaker 1: A y'all know this, this this video game stuff, man,

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Speaker 1: You can't please everybody, man. Lamar Jackson in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what y'all want, y'all y'all want, y'all

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, he could be that by week five.

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen. Tennessee could be the dark horse team this year. Up.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna understand why Lamar got a seventy nine

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Speaker 1: Why Lamar coming out with a seventy nine and Josh.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what you can do. You can

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Speaker 3: It is. It is, it is. And speaking now to

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Speaker 3: Cochy man. Listen, man ke, I know you're probably gonna

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Speaker 2: Because the thing is o jo. You know.

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Speaker 1: The difference between one on one and practice and one

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Speaker 1: Quarterback. This is what happened to your quarterback. Why you

434
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: did it? Your quarterback slop? Your quarterback slopped over the

435
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: wheel because he got hit the back of his head.

436
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,959
Speaker 3: Man, it was it was I don't mean I'm so excited,

437
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: make me so excited. Though there was a there was

438
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: a rep on on on Twitter with Denzel Ward. Jesus Christ,

439
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: my god, this motherfucker so polished. Oh I'm sorry.

440
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come on, you're gonna get day. We ain't

441
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: gonna make no money tonight.

442
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: Bro Listen, listen, listen. It was Cedric Tillman and Denzel

443
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: Ward bump and run and and it was. It was

444
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: when it's done right, the game of football is so beautiful. Yes,

445
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: from a from a position standpoint, I'm not gonna I'm

446
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: not gonna break it down right now, but it was.

447
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: It was man that with Dinzel Wards. It's nice about

448
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: the technician.

449
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, see the thing is he's he's a small frame,

450
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: so he has to be nice because he doesn't he

451
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have you.

452
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: Know, overwhelming sides right right, so you know what I'm.

453
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: Saying, Oh Joe, So he his technique has to be flawless,

454
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: and it is.

455
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: It is.

456
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you though, he's here here, you know he

457
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: he's great that he's loose in his hips, so he's

458
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: great to eat, to turn, to run. He's very fluid.

459
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: He transitions very well. When you hear oh he transitioned. Hey,

460
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: he back pedal, drop a start to run. Hey, dB,

461
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: comeback in the comeback. Oh, y'all on that too. Yeah,

462
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm one that too. I dropped my hips. I'm on

463
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: that too.

464
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: Hey. So I just want you to know I'm right here, Hey,

465
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: Uncle o Joe. And at this time and the year,

466
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 2: at this at this time of the.

467
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Speaker 1: Year doing camp. Tell me something, y'all, y'all enjoy coming

468
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: into camp already like in peak shape or you kind

469
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: of use camp to kind of you know, get it.

470
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: In peak shape. You get in shape player.

471
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: Football no matter how much he does out.

472
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: I see guys out there who don't look like they're

473
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: in great shape, man, And I see some guys who

474
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: look like that in elite shape. That's all I'm saying.

475
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, but where's your mindset coming into camp? No,

476
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: the thing was, look I taped off like the last

477
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: two weeks, I was still I was probably like not

478
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: at that point in time, I was probably ninety percent.

479
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. This is how you know you're

480
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: not in shape. When they were putting that two minute

481
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: drill on your ass and every a you run a go,

482
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: you run a post and you wanna come back. Yes,

483
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: And the first thing you do this after three plays,

484
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: that lets you know right now you ain't where you

485
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: need to be. Comes to and and come and now

486
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: that's what happens to guys now, o Joe, because at

487
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: least and and uh and preseason, we're gonna get everything

488
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: that we need to do in the regular season, we're

489
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: gonna get to some of that. Yeah, they're gonna say,

490
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 1: you know what, because Mike might say, you know what,

491
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: We're gonna open up the game with two minutes.

492
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna open up the game with no.

493
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: Huddle because I want to make sure we get some

494
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: of that with our number ones. So before anybody gets Dean,

495
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure we get that. We're gonna get

496
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: some short yardage in goal line. We're gonna make sure

497
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: we get some a twelve personnel, We're gonna get some

498
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: eleven personnel. You know, we're gonna get some empty set.

499
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: We're gonna get all of that, Joe. But yes, it

500
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: gives you a great foundation because we've been sprinting on

501
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: the track, and we've been running.

502
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: Hundreds and two hundreds and one, fifties and threes.

503
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: We've been doing all that, But we ain't been doing

504
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: none of that with no helmet and no joke past.

505
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: That's what we ever been doing exactly.

506
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: And so now once guys start leaning on you and

507
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: we all do always do that stuff on the third day,

508
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: when that soreness, when that old man city, yeah.

509
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: Already that old man said it on your joke man.

510
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Listen, Hey, look, I enjoyed camp like it was always fun.

511
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: But the best times is when you come into camp

512
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: and you already kind of in great, great shape because

513
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: they gonna run the dogs.

514
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: Jock out in the NBA. You know what I mean.

515
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna do a lot of seventeen you know them, Uh,

516
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: I forgot what was naming them down the backs and

517
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: you gotta make it a certain amount of time, y'all.

518
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: Y'all do suicide NBA.

519
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: What man, Listen, I don't know what they're doing right now,

520
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, when I came into the league, ohoe

521
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: and oh one man, we work, bro, like I'm talking

522
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: about line drill seventeens just the end practice. Yeah, like

523
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: you had to be in shape, bro. You had we

524
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: had we had conditioning tests that we had to do.

525
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: Hey, they was on that coach Cartervoutine.

526
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't see that. But oh Joe,

527
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: that's what we did too. See, we we did two

528
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: minutes at the end of practice. We never did two

529
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: minutes at the beginning of practice. He said, because guess

530
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be at the end of game, in

531
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: which you're gonna need a two minute So why doing

532
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: it when you freshest, when you're gonna be at your

533
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: tired laking the ball game. So that's what I want.

534
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Hey man, we beat up Red and did all that stuff,

535
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: all right, two minutes two minutes, man, I just got

536
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: off the field. They get you cut off hot, yeah,

537
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: they get you where you had it worse when you

538
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: tied dead dog tied. You re to get up out

539
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: of there, get get down on there. We got seventeen

540
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: everybody gotta make it. What yeah, yeah, And that's what

541
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: that's And so yes, you want a good foundation and

542
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: and and you're right, Joe, if you got that good foundation,

543
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier. But man, ain't nothing like football

544
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: football shape. But playing football, you got to do it

545
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: you because you ain't blocking guys, I mean, you gotta

546
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: drive to try to get the guy. Hey, O joga.

547
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: You gotta run, guys. You gotta run guys out because

548
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to block up and run the risks.

549
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: You got to run twenty thirty yards down the field

550
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: and come back and guess what do it again? If

551
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: it's another run, play or it might be a play.

552
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Hey, you ready for this deep ball?

553
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

554
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Now you Hey, you just ran to god thirty yards.

555
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: Now you got to come back and run a go ball.

556
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: And you better and you better hope it's complete because

557
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: now you got to run back again.

558
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

559
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: It get a look different when the guys get on you,

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: I know, because it's just like in basketball. You ain't

561
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: in You can go go to the track, get on

562
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: the treadmill, do all the running you want to. But

563
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: once you get out there, somebody go to touching on

564
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: you and pushing you. It's it's a lot different, all right, guys,

565
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Brown's on the Jimmy Haslm felt the need of unprompted

566
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: to tell the media yesterday that your door Sanders was

567
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: not his pick. Let's take a listen to what the

568
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: owner had to say about selecting your door.

569
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: Good process.

570
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: Okay, and if you just told me you see you

571
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: picked him on Saturday, right Friday night, driving home pic

572
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: your door, I would say that that's not happening.

573
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: But we had a conversation earlier that morning, in your

574
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: conversation later that.

575
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Day up here at the right people involved in.

576
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: The conversation, or if at the end of the day,

577
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: that's in Barry's call, if you made the call to

578
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: picture door, just like he's gonna start or what play

579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna call.

580
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: It is Kevin's call. But that's that's Andrew's call and

581
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: made them talk. Who asked him that?

582
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: Why did he Why did he feel the need to

583
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: share that information on Joe?

584
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Nobody? That's what unprompted?

585
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: So you drift, Mitch, ain't Nobody asked you what round

586
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: did you think was gonna take your dow in?

587
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Why did you take? Nobody asked you that.

588
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if so he felt the need, and I get it,

589
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: Yes he's the owner, but it's like, I'm like, bro,

590
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: if y'all felt if you feel this well by your door,

591
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: why y'all still got Themand it seemed like every time

592
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: I turn around, oh Joe, somebody trying to take a

593
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: dig at it.

594
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I got I got a question. I have

595
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: a question for the chat and Uncle Joe. I'm not

596
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: sure if y'all know how long did Jimmy hasn't been

597
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Browns A long ass time, A long time.

598
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: So since two thousand, the Cleveland Browns have thirty five

599
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: different starting quarterbacks. In two thousand, thirty five different starting quarterbacks.

600
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: But now you're going to take it for yourself to

601
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: say that jadere saying is one your pick and that's

602
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: probably why it's gonna work, because you had no dealings

603
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: in him being drafted. I'm watch all God work, watchy'all

604
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: God work.

605
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: What about all the other picks you had who picked

606
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: with they?

607
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: He is?

608
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: But he hey, listen, he never He never came out

609
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: before and said never.

610
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, when I when I look at it, when

611
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I look at it, I just like how a young

612
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: man going about itself?

613
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Man should do you know what I mean?

614
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Like, there's no there's no better way to go about

615
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: this than keep your head down and keep working.

616
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Bro. He's uh. I think he's been doing a phenomenal

617
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: job at that. Obviously.

618
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I think everybody's been keeping up with what's been going

619
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: on in Cleveland. I know I have UH and he

620
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: looked like he looked like he looks comfortable out there

621
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and he looks like he's still enjoying

622
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: the game, man. And I think this is just more

623
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, fuel to the fire as opposed to it's

624
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna help him out throughout the regular season, throughout his

625
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: season or throughout his NFL career in general. So I

626
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: understand what what what the owner said, but uh, I

627
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: think she do it doing an awesome job. With all

628
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: this that's going around. You can see he's in the community,

629
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: not only in the community, but he looked like he's

630
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: playing his butt off.

631
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know how much. I don't know how

632
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: much any of this.

633
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: Way with you know, what he's been doing in you know,

634
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: in the OTAs and off season and camp and all that.

635
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't lie, bro. I know, you know,

636
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: they ain't out there hitting or nothing like that. But

637
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: he looks comfortable out that.

638
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Well.

639
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to say because from everything

640
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: that I read, he gets one or two reps with

641
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the first team and one or two reps period and

642
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: that's it. It's reported that his dad wanted to come

643
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: to camp just like he went to a Tampa. He said, no,

644
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Daddy said Dad, he said, I might get three or

645
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: four reps. He says, I'm not where I want to be.

646
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: But what if reported is being reported is true? But

647
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: once I get to where I want to be, coming

648
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: up being right. But I don't get this who it

649
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: was that was? That was an Andrew Barry's pick. And

650
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: just like the guys that play that's such and such.

651
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: So all these quarterbacks that y'all had, and I mean

652
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: you have Baker, So who's picked with Baker and Baker. Look,

653
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Baker had had a decent and he got injured and

654
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know Baker's telling the story, they

655
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: wanted him to, you know, turn tone it down a

656
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: little bit and wouldn't let him be himself. And you see,

657
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Baker is like himself in Tampa and he's thriving. Now,

658
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: does he have a better collection of wide receivers around

659
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: him and Tampa that he had in Cleveland?

660
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: Yes he does, he does.

661
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Ain't no sense in us trying to fool Foolan said

662
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: he has the same level of skill position players around

663
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: him because he doesn't.

664
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: He just doesn't.

665
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: But I don't get why Jimmy Haslam felt the need

666
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: to take this shot.

667
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: That should do her.

668
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Oh uh, you know, if you'd have told me we

669
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: were gonna take him, I was like, that's not gonna

670
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: happen or whatever.

671
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: He said? Why? I mean, why, why? Why did he

672
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: feel the need to say that? O Joe?

673
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: You know what they're trying to do. You know what

674
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: they're trying to do, trying to break him. They use

675
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: the draft trying to break him. We're gonna make him. Wait, okay,

676
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: now he's here, he's doing everything he's supposed to do,

677
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: doing everything he's supposed to do plus the extra. Then okay,

678
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: how can we break him down? He's out here playing

679
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: very well to you, I told you what hey, listen,

680
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: mayear is over that now, and is is over there.

681
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't need to be there to see and hear

682
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: they with me? Now? So what do we do now?

683
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: He's playing well, he's got the offense down, he's not

684
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: making too many mistakes. He's throwing touchdowns where he's running

685
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: with the one to two three of the falls.

686
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: So what we do now?

687
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: The one has to come and try to break him again,

688
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: break his spirit a little.

689
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: Bit, Barry Pitt.

690
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: But listen, but why though, is it because of what

691
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: they may seem to be is flamboyant in college, because

692
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: he would a jewey, he would the ice Y's just

693
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: part of who he is. Man, It's just part of

694
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: his swag. That's how he grew up.

695
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Hey, really, Joe, honestly, that's all the collegiate athletes coming

696
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: out of college this year. Everybody look at all of them.

697
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: They got a little bread, and so it seemed like

698
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: to me a week attempt. The guy's already.

699
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Look.

700
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: I know what people you say, Hey, you can you

701
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: maintain confidence, but when you're not getting any run, and

702
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: you used to like, I'm a prime example of that.

703
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: I used to call my brother. I said, man, I

704
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: ain't get no run today. All he said, just be ready,

705
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: he said, John Elwire, gonna call your number, but make

706
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: sure when he called your number. I like, man, you

707
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: keep saying that. You said that yesterday all my number,

708
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: he said. I said, you keep I'm saying to myself,

709
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: you keep saying that, but it ain't happening. And sure enough.

710
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: But I was like, I ain't got nothing but time.

711
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: The way I looked at it, Joe and O Joe,

712
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: is that as long as I'm here, I still got

713
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: a chance. It's like, when I'm no longer there, I

714
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: don't have a chance to make the team. So as

715
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: long as I can state, the longer I stay, because

716
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm gonna do something. Y'all gonna put me

717
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: somewhere and I'm gonna flash something I'm gonna make. I'm

718
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna make a block, you gonna put me on special teams.

719
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something that you say, you know what?

720
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: That came from Savannah State. He too big, too strong,

721
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: too fast, not for us to final play by hey,

722
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: create a create a job for me.

723
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: We ain't high.

724
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: And the funny, the funny thing about it is all

725
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: the turmoil, all the all the negativity, but it's coming

726
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: from the Cleveland media, whether it's coming from the owner

727
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 3: gym has him and saying he wasn't my pick. When

728
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: that preseason starts and he gets his opportunity, the cream

729
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: is gonna rass at the top no matter what, because

730
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 3: good at doing one thing, he's good at playing football. Yes,

731
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: he's good at playing football. He's been a winner from

732
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: Jackson State, the goddamn Colorado And now you're in a

733
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: different environment and that journey starts all over again. Even

734
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: with the enemy right in your backyard against you.

735
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.

736
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's that's really hard to overcome, OYO, When when

737
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: it seems like the people rooting against you, that's right there.

738
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought I thought, I thought we was

739
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: all in this thing together. It don't seem like it.

740
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: I tell you, I tell you who on the side, though.

741
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: I tell you who on the side when that goddamn

742
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: when that goddamn stadium started rooting, start screaming for Shador,

743
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: when that goddamn dog pound start going crazy and the

744
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: chance starts start shouting for Shador, when things ain't going

745
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: right with the Browns, all right, I guarantee you know what,

746
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: watch watch how to Play Out.

747
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I just hope, I just hope he's still he's around,

748
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: loading up for those said things to happen.

749
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

750
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: That that that that's because think about o, Yo, you

751
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: signed Joe Flacco eighteen years well, you know he's not

752
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: He's year eighteen. He's not your answer long term. You

753
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: re signed Kenny Pickett hoping that he got a little

754
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: hamstring tweak. So now basically is Dylan Gabriel uh uh

755
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: and should do her. But it seemed like Flacco and

756
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: get Gabriel and and and Flacco getting all the reps.

757
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: That's what it appears to me from what I read now.

758
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, following it that close

759
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: because that you know, put all that time in there,

760
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: and and guys that you're watching, they're not gonna be there.

761
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: So as they get to the preseason on show, you

762
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: get the game or two and so we'll get a

763
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: better understanding, a better feel like okay, this kid, you know,

764
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to see them guys play, like.

765
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay, he can play.

766
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Because I want to see guys play against somebody playing

767
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: somebody else just trying to make a team.

768
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: Also, you don't know you y'all, don't walk.

769
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Off the field talking hey man, hey, you know what

770
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna do tonight?

771
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: Or well you know what you what you know such

772
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: and such.

773
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to see you go against another guy

774
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: in another colored uniform that's in the same situation that

775
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: you are. He's trying to make he's trying to live

776
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: out his fantasy. He's trying to live out his dream.

777
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: He's trying to make sure his mom and his grandma

778
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: and if he has a kid or a girlfriend or

779
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: significant other. He's trying to make sure they're taken care of,

780
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: just like you. But this, I'm shocked by what Jimmy

781
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: Haslom had to say because nobody asked him. Nope, this

782
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: was something that you probably should have asked. Oh Joe,

783
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: after the draft, you asked, you asked this, Okay, So

784
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: what was your thought process taking your door in the

785
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: fifth round? You know, they said the grade they had

786
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: on him, the grade they had, and the grade they had.

787
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: So that's when you're like, well, hey, we felt that,

788
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, we had this grade on him, and we

789
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: felt that, you know, he might be there, so we said,

790
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: now round between rounds four and five, if he's there,

791
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna grab it. Okay, But that's a couple that's

792
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: a day after the drift. That's two days at worked

793
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: at best work case, that's a week after the draft.

794
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: O Joe, the drift was in April.

795
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Makes no sense.

796
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: After the drift was in April, and here we are

797
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: that like May June July. That's three that's three months.

798
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: If we talking about that's an Andrew Berry pick and listen.

799
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: I can understand if your decision making in the past,

800
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: as if you the goddamn quarterback whisper yes, coming out

801
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: and saying something like that and being confident about it,

802
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: like you just yeah, been making golden when it came

803
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: to picking quarterbacks the last thirty five with your picks

804
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: in nothing. So probably this one that you had nothing

805
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: to do with, that might be the answer.

806
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: If you Green Bay, y'all got bred farg and then

807
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you get Aaron Rodgers and now you got George Love,

808
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I would say, well, you know what, hey, oh Joe, Joe.

809
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: He might be on the s right right half. They

810
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: about to half fifty years of prosperity at the quarterback position.

811
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: But when you've had thirty five years of turmoil and

812
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: chaos at the quarterback position, with the exception of maybe

813
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: a year or two here or there, you got one

814
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: year Derek Anderson, you got a couple of years with Baker,

815
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: but other than that, let's be realistic. Now, come on, Browns. Yeah,

816
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: and she does strikes me as a guy. You know,

817
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: when them lights come on, yo, I feel like he

818
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna perform at the highest level, you know what I mean,

819
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: Like he gonna put on you know what I mean.

820
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: That's that's the type of guy. He strikes me as so, man,

821
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be paying attention to them.

822
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: Brown.

823
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: See what's gonna happen? Now, they got four quarterbacks over there, right?

824
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: What they what they gonna doka?

825
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Yo?

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't see a team keeping four quarterbacks, man, you know,

827
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: part a part of me, a part of me. Hope

828
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: they like try to put him on the practice squad

829
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: and somebody comes side there.

830
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: So they so you can carry you know, they'll carry

831
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: three quarterbacks and put.

832
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: One on the that's too many positions because the quarterbacks

833
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: don't play special team. So you got it though, because

834
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: there's only there's only forty six guys, those spots are valuable.

835
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Normally you're carrying a guy, a wide receiver that could

836
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, he can play multiple positions. He can play

837
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: the eggs, he can play the Z, he can play

838
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: the slot, and he plays special team. Same thing with

839
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: a linebacker, same thing with the swing offensive line. But

840
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: he can play guard, he can play tackle. Okay, So

841
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: that's what to look at it. I'm looking at a

842
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: guy that can play multiple positions because if I get

843
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: somebody to go down, what can a quarterback do? Side quarterback?

844
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: Maybe your hope maybe maybe in high school. Oh Joe,

845
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: he punted or kicked to something. But for the most part,

846
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: you keep If you're gonna keep somebody extra, it's gonna

847
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: be a wide receiver, a dB, somebody that can play

848
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: special teams.

849
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: That's why they say he Special teams is the quickest.

850
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: Way to earn a place on the rocks unless you

851
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: wanted the top Now you top dog. Got mean, we

852
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: get that, you Joe Burrow or Chase or somebody like that.

853
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: Lamards, we get that.

854
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: But guys that are not that are not extra, like

855
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: say starter that when hey Rue's up, he runs on

856
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: the field, and when if far and down, he comes

857
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: off the field, and he ain't got to stay out

858
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: there for punting. Special team. The more you can do,

859
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: the longer you can play. The more you can do,

860
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: the longer you can play. And but I don't, I don't.

861
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I didn't like this at all because, like I said,

862
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: here we are three months in Ojoe and this man

863
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: talking about that's an Andrew Barry Pick.

864
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: It's trying to break him up. It's all mind games.

865
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: They are they are, they are, they did what they did.

866
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: They like, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna show you,

867
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna show coach Prime. You know, they

868
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: talking about you know, the man Ings and everybody looked

869
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: at the man, even Eli did what he did, and

870
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: you know Arch and you know, so forth and so on.

871
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: They're like, Nah, you're not gonna do that. We're gonna

872
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: show you that. We're gonna start it right here, and

873
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: then we're gonna take a little further. We only gonna

874
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: get your handful of reps.

875
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 2: And we're gonna see how how how long?

876
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Hey, if I'm trying to break it, they say they

877
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: put you in solitary, solitary o Joe, because they say,

878
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, we used to communicate it, and when there's

879
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: no one to communicate to you, and all you can

880
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: do is hear your heart beat and the only the

881
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: only communication is going on in your own head.

882
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: And you know what, that could be a good thing.

883
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes they put people in solitary confinement, right, and it

884
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 3: does it more, It does it more good than harm

885
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: because it gives you to much time to think.

886
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be a solitary away from you.

887
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: Sorry you can Yeah, I wanted to be a solitaire

888
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: oh your cause I want to be away from you. Sorry,

889
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: Mobo so y'all back rub off on me. I think

890
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: I think, look, look, I think he definitely locked in.

891
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: Though you can see it, Bro, you can see it, well,

892
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't really, he really doesn't have a choice.

893
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: I think I think Time has done a great job

894
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: Time dealing with what he's dealing with. Cause think about

895
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: it now, it's still Time, son. But in the meantime,

896
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: I've got to deal with what I've got to deal with.

897
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I've got something gravely going on with me and I

898
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: got two sons that because the only coach that should

899
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: do has ever had has been Time. Yep, he's the

900
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: only only play for his dad played for his daddy.

901
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Jay played for his dad in high school and coming up,

902
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: he coached him in Pop Warner. Time used to take

903
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: them kids all over the place. They play Snoop Dogg.

904
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: They played, end up playing Snoop Dogg. When because the

905
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: Time and I went to the hall together. Uh, they

906
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: playing all up in Texas. They coming, they coming, and

907
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: they're driving playing other teams. I think they played while

908
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: they was up there in Canton. So that's the only

909
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: coach you've ever had. And now my dad's think about it, man,

910
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: my dad dealing with something I don't know, you know,

911
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: what's really going on, because Tom said, you know, I

912
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: really didn't let the boys know what was really going

913
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: on because they gotta focus on that. The last thing

914
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: is to let your mind wander, O Joe. You know

915
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: when you in camp, hey, I'm here. That's what I

916
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: tell when you hear you gotta be here now. Now,

917
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: when you over there, deal with whatever you gotta deal

918
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: with over there, and don't.

919
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: Worry about here. But when you hear you gotta be here.

920
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: And so I think Time did a great job of

921
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: shielding him, not telling them the extent of what's really

922
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: going on with him so he can stay locked in.

923
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: Especially we know how hard the quarterback position is to play,

924
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, the last thing you need is to be

925
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: worried about man, Pops, Man, samn, Pops. Really, Pop's really

926
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: messed up right now? Man, I ain't getting no burn.

927
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: Pops messed up on a trip and saying all kind

928
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff.

929
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot.

930
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like I said, you don't know what a person's

931
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: going through. You don't know, Uh, you know, you try

932
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: not to, you try to compartmentalize when I'm here, Joe, Ojoe,

933
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm here, and like when i'm when I'm done, I'll

934
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: deal with whatever I need to deal with off the field.

935
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: I'll deal with that. Then.

936
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: Man, you just say, man, I can, I can. I

937
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: can brain work home, but I can't take you to work.

938
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: And that's how it is. You can't be cause they

939
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: tell you, oh yeah, there's there's more important things than sports.

940
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: They line they say that for for the public, for

941
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: for public. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no no. When

942
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: you play a professional sport, o jo, they're making a

943
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: buddy leclear. Oh yeah, that's the most important thing is

944
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: that sport. Yeah, So Chel, keep your head up, keep

945
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: plugging away. Boy, do your thing. You built for this,

946
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: You are built for this. Daryl Murray also felt the

947
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: need to talk about the Lakers twenty twenty title today.

948
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Murray said, had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely

949
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: would have celebrated as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience.

950
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Required.

951
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Yet everyone speaking around the league privately agrees that it

952
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. Perhaps the

953
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: last legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA

954
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning

955
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: and the end of the pandemic, even through the champion

956
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: will forever be marked by an asterisk. Daryl morri you

957
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: should be the last one to talk after what you

958
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: almost blew up by saying what you said about China,

959
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: and you got your busses, you got your butt.

960
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Out of there.

961
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Every see, everybody talks about, Well, it's an asterisk because

962
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: you didn't win it. Now you just said, I absolutely

963
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: would have celebrated as legitimate doing the admiss everyty resilience

964
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: that it took to do it. But now because you

965
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: didn't win it, So is there astery by the strike

966
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: a short year? What year that was? Ninety nine?

967
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? The strike short? Yeah?

968
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What about twenty twelve? Twenty twelve?

969
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: Was the strike short? Didn't y'all didn't y'all? Wasn't y'all shorten?

970
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Twenty twelve?

971
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Joke? Yeah yeah, And uh, he don't ask you about

972
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: that one.

973
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Huh.

974
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he put that astray by the bubble.

975
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: But I honestly think because he didn't win, absolutely, But

976
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I honestly think I didn't think it was an advantage

977
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: to anybody playing in the bubble, you know what I mean,

978
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't put no astray by, you know, because nobody.

979
00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: No.

980
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: Ten's probably harder, y'all. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, No,

981
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was harder than neither. I

982
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: don't feel like because you took away a lot of

983
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: the elements of traveling, playing in altitude environments, things of

984
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: that sort, like we are all right here, No, what

985
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: about you couldn't go nowhere? Yeah, I mean I know that.

986
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: I know that's hard. I knew that was hard. You know,

987
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I tell you what I would do. I'll

988
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: tell you what I would do, Joe. I would put

989
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: you in. I would put you in your house for

990
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: one hundred days and all you could do is go

991
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: to your backyard and come home.

992
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: How much you can't do nothing? How much money I'm

993
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: making whatever? The playoffs play? Okay, So he's saying, just

994
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: to play. Yeah, that's because that's what they can.

995
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: Don't get no extra Hey, look, hey, look, I wasn't

996
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: locked obviously, you know I played in CBT.

997
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't nowhere near.

998
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: It's being locked in for ninety days or how many

999
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: days those guys locked in. I played in the TVT

1000
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: and it was a quarantine environment. We was locked in

1001
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: a hotel for like seven it's about ten days. So

1002
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: I know, I know the challenges that these dudes had

1003
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: to go through, But I'm saying I don't think it

1004
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: should be an asterisk, like I think everybody was. No,

1005
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Yeah, no, I think I think everything about

1006
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: with THET. Think about the pandemic itself.

1007
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: Joke.

1008
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, people losing their mind. They couldn't go nowhere, o choke.

1009
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: You couldn't go to a you couldn't go sit inside

1010
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: a restaurant, or you couldn't go to a club, or

1011
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: you couldn't do it.

1012
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: Now.

1013
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how it was in some places, but

1014
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I happened to be in Cali at the time. And

1015
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: when I say Callie shut it down, Callie shut it down.

1016
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: Now I know.

1017
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Georgia shut it down for a week. Florida shut it down.

1018
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Georgia wasn't shut down, but they were getting two of

1019
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: that out here. You and me, huh, I'll go yeah, yeah,

1020
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1021
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: O Joe, listen.

1022
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: It was it was easy for them, especially during that time.

1023
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: It was easy for the people that don't actually that

1024
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: don't be outside. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't go anywhere anyway.

1025
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: So when the when the pandemic happened, listen, I chose

1026
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: that time to catch up on some stuff Netflix, movies

1027
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: that hadn't seen. You know, I would tweet what should

1028
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: I watch? Hell, I ain't see the Wire? You know

1029
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: I was? Was I playing during that time? No? I

1030
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: think I think I might have forgot where it was.

1031
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: I had never seen the wire. The people told me

1032
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: to watch the Wire. I watched Ozark, I caught up.

1033
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: On Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1034
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: I caught up on all types of stuff on Netflix.

1035
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: That was good. I had a bunch of cigars with me,

1036
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: and you know, I had a little cor for machine. Heah,

1037
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: I ain't need to go nowhere. Everything I needed was

1038
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: right here. And then I got my game.

1039
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: Hey, but look though, and he's talking about yet everyone

1040
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, oh Joe.

1041
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: Do y'all think that the.

1042
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: The COVID times, it really changes because think about this.

1043
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: You know, you had your homeboys or your friends talking

1044
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: about they want to come over. You don't know what

1045
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: they done being You're like, hold on now, you can't

1046
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: come over, bro, you know what I mean? And then

1047
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: since it's been over a lot of us are still

1048
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of knuckled up. Hey, hey, hey, how you doing

1049
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: bro right? Hey?

1050
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, even still announced to this day like that.

1051
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Darryl Moore said, Yet everyone I speak to around

1052
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: the league probably agreed that it truly doesn't hold up

1053
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: as a genuine championship. So did you ask people around

1054
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: the league what they thought about what you said about China?

1055
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: Asking what they genuinely think about how you almost blew

1056
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: it up right right?

1057
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

1058
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: You know why? Let me tell you why did because

1059
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: Lebron James won it? Anybody any other superstar had won

1060
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know it'd

1061
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: been legit. It was because Lebron James wanted it ain't legit.

1062
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: You think that's why a lot of people put that in. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

1063
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Michael Kobe, Larry Magic, it, Deah, anybody else. And that's

1064
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: what I asked him. I said, Okay, y'all say, well,

1065
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: because you said that Lebron came to LA to be

1066
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: a sixth Saint Kevin Hart, he came to be a movie.

1067
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: He came to win an oscar as opposed to a

1068
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Larry O'Brian trophy. Okay, he comes out here, he plays,

1069
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: he wins. Now, so what's what's the what's the debate?

1070
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: Had anybody else done that? I say, now, y'all say

1071
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: that's what he did? I say, now, oh, man, Jordan

1072
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: was past this prime Jordan. I say, let me ask

1073
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: you a question. Had Jordan won the NBA title, would

1074
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: y'all say he won seven? Or would he ever just

1075
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: won six? Come on, now, y'all said, y'all game seven? Yeah,

1076
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: but because he didn't win, Oh, he wasn't even trying

1077
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: to win.

1078
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: Yes, he was.

1079
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: I thought that everything Georgie Tech was serious. The reason

1080
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: why they did it like this is because Lebron won.

1081
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Had anybody else won, they not calling the Bubble Tech Championship.

1082
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: They're not calling it saying an asterisk needs to be added.

1083
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: They wouldn't do it.

1084
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: Even Darryl Morre, even Darryl Morray is trying to man

1085
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: is the man. I guarantee you take it. I guarantee

1086
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: you take it. You need to worry about Philly. That's

1087
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: what you need to do. All that money. I tell you, what,

1088
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: pull another season like you had this year and see

1089
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: what happened to you.

1090
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: But he the owner though what they gonna do then.

1091
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: Gentle JOHNH. Harris is the owner.

1092
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you think they're fire.

1093
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: Have another boy? He you see that money he done

1094
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: gave out. Yeah, it's you miss the playoffs.

1095
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna have to go. Joe.

1096
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: They still yeah, they still owe Joe L and B.

1097
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: Damn near three hundred million.

1098
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: Damn.

1099
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: They gave TDD Reeves maxim Max deal. They got Paul

1100
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: George on the Max deal.

1101
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 3: Maxy.

1102
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: Nice.

1103
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: If Paul, if Paul ni a ankle, whatever whatever it is,

1104
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 3: if he come back healthy, they're gonna be all right.

1105
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: He don't get healthy as you get older. I think

1106
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: he just had another procedure too. Mm hmm.

1107
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I wish I could give all them boys

1108
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: my and legs, man and arms and akilis and knees.

1109
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: I just damn, man, I hate seeing people get injured.

1110
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: Man, this some boy, But who asked you?

1111
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Hold up? Who asked him this? Everybody just feel like

1112
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: they ever really talking to movie?

1113
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Today? Is just Joe.

1114
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: Everybody was in a real talking to movie today, Oh Joe. Yeah, so,

1115
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: ain't nobody bro, It's twenty twenty five. They just got

1116
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: the new package Amazon. Somebody Amazon just got spent seventy

1117
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: seven billion, seventy six billion. Amazon got a package, NBC

1118
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: got a package. He has He ain't got a package.

1119
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: They about to make money out to Yin Yang and

1120
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: you talking about twenty twenty five? Why yeah, I promise you.

1121
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: Nobody in the history of the game has received more

1122
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: criticism than Lebron James.

1123
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: And it's crazy for what.

1124
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: Because he's no matter what you thought about it, man,

1125
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be good. He's exceeded all expectations,

1126
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: no matter what you thought he.

1127
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: Might be, He's exceeded everything. Nobody.

1128
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: People say, ain't nobody gonna break Kareem's record, because first

1129
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: of all, you're not gonna play long enough and you're

1130
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be consistent enough. He did that. Man, Ain't

1131
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: nobody gonna get no. Nineteen All Star Games? He got

1132
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: twenty one. Man Ain't nobody gonna be no. All the

1133
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: NBA all those times he got twenty one thirteen first teams.

1134
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: I just don't get it, man, Listen, he go uh ojo.

1135
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: Y'all know when you when you've been at the top

1136
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: for so long, they gotta start, they gotta start picking

1137
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: at you.

1138
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: Bro. They got they gotta start picking at it. It's

1139
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: just kind of a part of it.

1140
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: That's just kind of what it seems like, because, like

1141
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: like you said, I agree with you.

1142
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: He's exceeded expectations.

1143
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for him since the time he came

1144
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: into the NBA and what eighteen nineteen years old man

1145
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: expect they put on him, he exceeded at That's crazy. Yes, yeah,

1146
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of eighteen year old old

1147
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: get handed.

1148
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: The keys to a franchise. Oh man, eighteen.

1149
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: No college, no dominant male. I mean, I guess the

1150
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: dominant male figures would be his coach, coach Drew. They

1151
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: don't hand the keys to a franchise to an eighteen

1152
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: year old.

1153
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: That's what he did. That's what they gave him.

1154
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1155
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: That's what they gave him.

1156
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's almost like, well, my favorite player

1157
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: didn't play that long, he should just go.

1158
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: Why.

1159
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: I guarantee you if your favorite player could play at

1160
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: that level that he's playing at, he'd stayed.

1161
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1162
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: Kobe body broke down on him.

1163
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: He had to shoulder towards labrum, and he had their

1164
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: keen Ley's injury, and he was just he had given

1165
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: it all he got. And you know what, Kobe was

1166
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: that Mercedes that had five hundred thousand miles on it.

1167
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: And it just pulled out of the road and it

1168
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: just stopped.

1169
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: You don't think Jordan, if Jordan could have still played

1170
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: at that elite level, you don't think he just continued

1171
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: to play of cards.

1172
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: We all would playing right now.

1173
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: Of course they're mad at the man that's taking care

1174
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: of his body for this long. Lord is blessed and

1175
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: beyond blessed, and he's able to play at an elite level.

1176
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: Even in year twenty two. The man average twenty four

1177
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: eight and eight in year twenty two, and everybody else

1178
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: the average. I don't even think anybody did anybody average

1179
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: twenty two the average double figures and year twenty twould

1180
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: what considering that only Vince Carter's played the twenty two

1181
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty two seasons.

1182
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy.

1183
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that man, and we just tried,

1184
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: and people just try to find things to nit picking,

1185
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: to pick him apart, and I just I just I

1186
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: just I'll I'll just never I'll just never understand why why,

1187
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna I mean, he's gonna be gone

1188
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, eventually KD. Eventually Steph will have

1189
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: new guys in there. What that's when he'll be missed

1190
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the most, though, I mean.

1191
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: Somebody else, somebody else will take his place on somebody

1192
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: else that they're going to love to hate somebody.

1193
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1194
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: There's never been anybody before or since him that's been

1195
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: like this. Nobody, nobody defy you to find it. Even

1196
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: if you look at the bad Boy Pistons. Nope, they

1197
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: didn't like they didn't dislike them like they disliked this man.

1198
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: I agree.

1199
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: I think when it's when he when he hangs it up,

1200
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna miss it because what he's done.

1201
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah,