1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff Mom never told you? 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: From House stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Caroline and I'm Kristin Kristen. If I 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: had asked you a week ago what you thought were 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the origins of Springbreak, what would have been your guests? 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Someone had a hose, and someone was wearing what a 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: T shirt? A what T shirt contest? Maybe, and then 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: got what Yeah, someone ran through a sprinkler on a 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: beach somehow, and someone was serving jello and accidentally like whoops, 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: and Daisy poured a lot of vodka into it. I 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: like it that that's creative, but it's not at all 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: close to the origins of Springbreak in real life. Not 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: not a bunch of just happenstance mistakes that leads to 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: drunkenness and and wet T shirts. Not a series of 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: happy accident more like one happy accident. And then once 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: upon a time we had the casino pool in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: And so backing up a little bit, I'm getting ahead 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: of myself. It was cold up at Colgate University and 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: the swim coach did not want his students to get 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: out of shape over Christmas break. So one of his 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: students father, suggested that the team come down to Fort 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Lauderdale and practice at the Casino Pool, which was the 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: first Olympic sized pool in Florida. It had been built 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties. And so we did. So. All 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: these swimmers come down to Fort Lauderdale and they're enjoying 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: the warm weather and the warm welcome, and as it 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: tends to do, words spread among college students that this 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: was a cool thing to do, and the spring break 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: was born. And this is in nineteen thirty six that 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Ingram first springs that Colgate University swim team down. I 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: had no idea that spring break, yeah, in the thirties, 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: even though some might say that, hey, the idea of 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: a spring celebration can be traced back to Greek and 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Roman times with the bacchanals and the changing of the 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: seasons and he's getting warm, let's pour a bunch of wine, 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: um and but really, in the United States it started 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: more in the thirties. Although once you have kids going 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: off to college men and women, and the advent of 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: the car and the road trip. Then you start to 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: get kids getting a little frisky when they have some 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: time off from school. But the idea of spring break 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and this whole let's go to the beach and have 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: a real good time starts all because of Fort Lauderdale 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: and this casino pool and Sam Ingram, who was yeah, 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: really really concerned about his swift but all that Christmas 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Ham he was worried that they would get little swimmers guts. 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, in six he brought the team down and 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: by eight more than three hundred swimmers were competing in 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: the college Coaches swim for um, this casino pool, and 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: according to the New York Times, a bucan All was born. Yeah. 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: The first mention of spring Break in Time magazine happened 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, I believe, where one of the 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: revelers commented, it's not that we drink so much. It's 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: just that we drink beer all the time, right, so 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: keep it going. So little has changed since those early days. 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen sixty spring break really enters into 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: mainstream culture with the Hollywood production Where the Boys Are, 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: which is a movie based on a book by the 60 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: same name starring George Hamilton's that h star of yesteryear 61 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: who was always so damned, always so damn. I think 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I have a purse the color of George Hamilton. That's 63 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: actually the color. It's George Hamilton's Hamilton. Um. And it's 64 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: about these four midwestern college girls who spend their spring 65 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: break in where else, Fort Lauderdale, the first capital of 66 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: spring break. And I like how the plot line revolves 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: around all of their different ideas of premarital sex. Like 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the main character is sort of the headstrong feminist who's 69 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: like prematal sex and say okay by me, And then 70 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: she meets George Hamilton and she's like, I could have 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: premarital sex with George Hamilton's But then the moral of 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: the story in this nineties sixty film is that she 73 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have to do it before she's ready, right, And 74 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: that is the moral of spring Break as well. Um. 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: And by the seventies, this is according to Time Magazine's 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: brief History of spring Break, which is very interesting and 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: tells me all sorts of things that I had no 78 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: idea about. But they say that by the seventies things 79 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: started to get a little raunchier. There was a lot 80 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: of gratuitous PDA and balcony diving, which is when kids 81 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: would jump from one balcony to the other to try 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: to get to people's rooms. And there's actually a study 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: out there about spring break syndrome, which is referring to 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: the number are of accidental free fall injuries in spring 85 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: break atmosphere and how they're different from like, let's say, 86 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: a side impact injury of a car wreck. So all 87 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: these kids getting drunk and jumping from balcony to balcony, 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: a term was coined that reminds me of yoga drop foot. 89 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: It's from the from the yoga episode where very specific 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: injury um And then by nine five, more than three 91 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand students were heading to Fort Lauderdale 92 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: every year for spring break and things were getting out 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: of control. The mayor of Fort Lauderdale started freaking out 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: about it. Police started freaking out. In seventies, there were 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: a number of arrests that were happening every year on 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: the beach because kids were getting out of hand. A 97 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of spring break syndrome spreading everywhere. People not falling 98 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: off of balconies but just just falling rights. Other types 99 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: of spring break syndromes, and you mentioned the mayor. He 100 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: actually went on Good Morning America to publicly state that 101 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: students were not welcome in his town anymore. And former 102 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: city Commissioner Robert Cox told The New York Times that 103 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: the commission voted to purchase a riot tank with a 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: water cannon to counteract any potential student rampages. And he 105 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't stop there. Not only did he buy a freaking 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: riot tank, but when he became mayor, streets were reconfigured 107 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: to discourage cruising, and high end hotels and restaurants were 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: played the lower end student attracting dive bars and things. 109 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: So the thing that I was expecting with this idea 110 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of talking about spring break for a podcast was that 111 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: it would start, I don't know, in the in the 112 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: eighties or the nineties. It's something a product of MTV 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: because growing up, MTV always had their televised spring break 114 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: weeks and it was a lot of you know, bands 115 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: and drinking and wet t shirt contests. But the fact 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: of the matter is that ever since large groups of 117 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: college kids have gathered in a war locale since the 118 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: late nineteen thirties, trouble has ensued. It's all swimmers faults. 119 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: It's it's dar Northern swimmers. But MTV does play a 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: role in this. In nineteen eighties six MTVS spring Break 121 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: debuted in beautiful Daytona Beach, not Fort Lauderdown. And I 122 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: think this is a really good example of popular culture 123 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: feeding what goes into the media, which then feeds back 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: into popular culture. And MTV Vice president Doug Hartzog said 125 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: that spring Break is a youth culture event. We wanted 126 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: to be a part of it for that reason. It 127 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: makes good sense for us to come down and go 128 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: live from the center of it because obviously the people 129 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: there are the kinds of people who watch MTV, so 130 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: it's a cycle. Like he saw these young people doing 131 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: all these crazy things and thought, yes, we need to 132 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: be a part of that. We need to put it 133 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: on TV to get more people watching it to boost 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: our ratings. And then the more people who watch MTV 135 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: spring Break, the more people go down to MTV spring Break. 136 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Right because cements this idea in our our young and 137 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: impressionable minds, said hey, you know, for that one week 138 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: in March or April, that's what we're supposed to do, right, 139 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: black out every night, jello shot, not like what I 140 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: did my freshman year of college, which was go to 141 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: New York City in March. It was freezing and at 142 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: the same time that I went to New York City 143 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: with my friends. I don't know why I'm pointing down 144 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: New York City is up anyway, When when I went 145 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: to New York City and it was freezing and I 146 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: was wearing sweaters and standing in line to see Conan O'Brien, 147 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: my roommate went to Florida and one a wet t 148 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: shirt contest, which I think illustrates different perspectives very well. 149 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: The only spring break that I can remember making into 150 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: some kind of occasion during college because I was I 151 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: was probably working most spring breaks. Um was one beach 152 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: trip that my friends and I took camping down on St. Augustine. 153 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: But the way the timing of spring break was an 154 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: early early March and it was still cold, and I 155 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: remember going out there sitting on the beach with my 156 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: my swimsuit on but wrapped up in a top towel, 157 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: determined to have some fun in the freezing cold sun. 158 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: And there was these wind gusts would kick up and 159 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: just blow sand all over us, and UH and I 160 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: went home a day early. Yeah, I had a similar 161 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: experience when I was in middle school. Every year I 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: went to my aunt and uncle's house in Fort Walton Beach, Florida. 163 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Same thing. I actually got bronchitis one year because it 164 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: was so cold that I was determined to go in 165 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the pool. I'm gonna have fun. And yet again, we 166 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: drewn ourselves into Kathy comics from a young age. Not 167 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: on a more serious note, we do have to address 168 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: the wrist here behavior that does tend to go hand 169 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: in hand with these spring break romps. Yeah. A two 170 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: thousand and six study in the Annals of Tourism Research 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: found that students appear to participate in risk your behaviors 172 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: in the spring break environment then at home. And this 173 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: sounds like a no brainer. I mean, if you've ever 174 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: been to spring breaker, won't watch spring break shows on MTV, 175 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: you know that people are acting kind of crazy. Um, 176 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: But they look at why this is happening and they 177 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: found that it's your personal normative beliefs and situational expectations 178 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: that predict your intentions to binge, drink and take part 179 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: in it while you're on spring break. So basically it's 180 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: that thing of saying, hey, you know what I'm going 181 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: on spring break? I've seen what spring break looks like 182 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: um on MTV and in the nineteen sixty film where 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: the boys are starring George Hamilton's and I am expecting 184 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: to go down and have a party filled weekend and 185 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go bonkers, right, And similarly, intentions for 186 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: casual sex were predicted by attitudes again personal normative beliefs 187 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: and expectations, but the actual engagement in casual sex was 188 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: predicted by prior experience with it. So you might go 189 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: down thinking, oh, yeah, I'm gonna have all of this 190 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: crazy spring break sex and drinking, and then your actual 191 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: actions might not measure up exactly. And then the most 192 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: disconcerting finding from this two thousand six study was that 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: a majority of students who did in fact engage in 194 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: sexual activity rarely or never used condoms during spring break. Yeah, 195 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that is scary. That's a lot of unprotected sex happening 196 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: with a lot of possibly intoxicated people. But speaking of numbers, 197 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: let's put some percentages around how many what proportion of 198 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: students are having sex? This is a little bit dated. 199 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: A n study of Canadian students from the Journal of 200 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: Sex Research. I found that not too surprisingly, more men 201 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: than women intended to have casual sex on spring break. 202 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: But when the numbers all shook out, the percentages of 203 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: guys and gals who actually did it pretty similar fifteen 204 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: percent of men and of women. So maybe the casual 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: sex not as rampant as we think could be. Maybe 206 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: people are just talking it up. And one thing that 207 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: researchers looked at in a in a two thousand and 208 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: six study from the Journal of Studies on Alcohol was 209 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: comparing springbreak behavior to normal behavior, because it could be 210 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: that people are never drinking during the year and going 211 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: crazy on spring break, or that they're drinking all the 212 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: time and it just continues when they go on vacation. 213 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: And so they conducted phone interviews with one hundred and 214 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: seventy six freshmen students over ten weeks to learn about 215 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: their typical behaviors and found that the people who drank 216 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: more during the regular semester are men, members of fraternities 217 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: and sororities, students on spring break, and those with higher 218 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: fun social expectancies, So the people who are just expecting 219 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: to have a better, more wild time in college. And 220 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: they found that alcohol used did not actually increase during 221 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: springbreak in general, but spring break travelers increased their alcohol 222 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: use during springbreak. So it's the been week. It was 223 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: the wake up crack of beer instead of having coffee 224 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: and just go until you can't go no more. And 225 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: that finding echoes the quote that you said earlier from 226 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: time about it's not that we drink so much that 227 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: we drink all the time. That's from nineteen Well, and 228 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: now that there's the whole thing of leaving the US 229 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: going to destinations like Cancoon where the drinking age is 230 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: eighteen to make it even easier, and then you go 231 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: to an all inclusive resort and it's just fountains of 232 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: mimosas and hurricanes. That is quite a bachan all. Yes, 233 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: So now that we've covered the risks and established the 234 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: fact that, yes, indeed, a lot of alcohol is consumed 235 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: on spring break and has been since the dawn of 236 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: spring break, let's talk about the business end of this, right, 237 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: because all of this alcohol consumption and hotel stays and 238 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: restaurant eating, well not eating of restaurants, but eating at restaurants. 239 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: Just to clarify, although some of those drunks because probably 240 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: have attempted to eat a shoot on a on a restaurant. Um. Yes, 241 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: so this means that business is booming in these springbreak towns. 242 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: And according to the Houston Chronicle on March eighteenth, hotel 243 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: bookings for Texas Week, which I had never heard of, 244 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: but I guess it's the big springbreak event of Texas 245 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: of Texas which ran from March eleventh. Um, we're at capacity, 246 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: according to the special event coordinator for the South Padre 247 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: Island Convention and Visitors Bureau. I actually know someone who 248 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: spent springbreak in South Padre Island and I did not 249 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: look at her pictures because I just think they'd be crazy. 250 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,119 Speaker 1: And apparently South Padre Island is popping. And it's interesting, 251 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Caroline that you mentioned that you did not choose to 252 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: look at her pictures, which I'm assuming we're posted on 253 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: the social network called Facebook. Because social media supposedly is 254 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: tamping down on the springbreak fund. These college students, who 255 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: have largely grown up with social media are so aware 256 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: of how easily they can be caught and broadcast doing 257 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: things such as wet T shirt contests and jello shots, 258 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: that they aren't partying as hard as they used to 259 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: be we'll see. Yeah. The New York Times identifies this 260 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: as a trend, but I question how much of a 261 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: trend it actually is. It might just it might just 262 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: be a part of these kids lives now because Facebook 263 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: is everything on Facebook and the internet is I mean, 264 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: it's just so prevalent and it's all intertwined, and it 265 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: might just be more of an attitude that they have now, 266 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: like Okay, well, I'm still going to go down and 267 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: have fun. I just don't want people taking pictures of 268 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: me so that potential employers will see them, you know, 269 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like when I was in college facebook 270 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: uh or I got on Facebook in two thousand four, 271 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: which was my sophomore year of college, so I still 272 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even for the rest of college. I wasn't thinking 273 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: about like, oh my gosh, someone's gonna see a picture 274 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: of me holding a beer and I'm gonna lose a job. 275 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: But maybe it's just so prevalent now that kids are 276 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: are really worried about it. And one year old bartender 277 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: is quoted in the Story of saying that the students 278 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: she sees are very prudish and that ten years ago 279 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: people were doing filthy, filthy things but it wasn't posted 280 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: on Facebook, So there's a little bit of nostalgia from 281 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: a year old. In a commentary about that New York 282 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Times trend Peace, the blog Jezebel also brings up this 283 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: issue of whether or not women women are being more 284 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 1: slut shamed into sort of tamping down on their cruisier 285 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: spring break activity, because you also have to remember the 286 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: out of spring break culture. We have the whole girl's 287 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Gone wild culture of filming pretty young women who are 288 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: usually pretty intoxicated, doing some pretty sexy types of things, right, 289 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think I've told you this before, Kristen, 290 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: but my dad's only advice to me when I was 291 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: going to college was don't let me see you want 292 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: a commercial at three in the morning. So it is 293 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: a concern out there that our young ladies, are young 294 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: college ladies, will end up victims of girls gone wild. 295 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: But this, the whole social media thing, really isn't killing 296 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: springbreak revelry. I mean, plenty of people are still going. 297 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: And all these articles coming out of Florida this month 298 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: reporting on the spring break craziness down there basically said 299 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that hotel occupancy is up in spite of the recession. 300 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: It's incredible. I saw on I think it was from 301 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: US News and World Report. The average college student will 302 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: spend eleven hundred dollars on a spring break getaway. This 303 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: is in a recession economy. I couldn't even do that 304 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: before the recession when I was in college. The Sun 305 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: Sentine Law March twelve reported that the Greater Fort Lauderdale 306 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Convention and Visitors Bureau expected about one million visitors to 307 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Broward County alone, and those one million visitors were expected 308 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: to spend oh, I don't know, just about a billion dollars. 309 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: So even though they are all these towns in Florida 310 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: who back in the eighties were like, enough, we don't 311 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: want to be that kind of town own. We don't 312 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: want to have a week long disruption in our lives. 313 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: They're finding ways to still attract and draw visitors, but 314 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: just hoping that it's not the same like craziness that 315 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: was so common in the eighties, not all that spring 316 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: break syndrome and balcony hopping spreading around, right, Because they're 317 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: actually attracting a lot of not just college students, but 318 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: some of the hotel people that they talked to for 319 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: this article, we're saying that there were a lot of 320 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: convention people and families to go down to the beach 321 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: for spring break, So there's a mix. Although I would 322 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: not want to be a family staying in a hotel 323 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: with a bunch of springbreak college kids. I would try 324 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: to stay somewhere. Yeah, I mean, that's got to be 325 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: part of the give and take of of being a 326 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: tourism driven city. Um. But we've been talking all about 327 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: this debauchery that goes along with springbreak because I think 328 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: that we can pretty conclusively say that the history of 329 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: springbreak has been kids getting in cars and planes and 330 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: going to a hot location to drink alcohol swimmers. But 331 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: there's also been the more recent rise of alternative spring breaks, 332 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: which is great. There are new options for going and 333 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: using your time to improve the world in a way, 334 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: whether that's doing um clean up after Hurricane Katrina, or 335 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: going to more remote location to do some kind of 336 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: humanitarian outreach, educating yourself, doing outward bound trips. Right, and 337 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: there's Breakaway, which is a nonprofit that provides training to colleges, universities, 338 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and other nonprofits interested in creating lifelong, active citizens according 339 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to their website, and so this is for people who, yeah, 340 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: who want to participate in things like Habitat for Humanity 341 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: and help build houses and things like that on spring 342 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: break and help better their community or you know, a 343 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: far away community, if they so choose, instead of going 344 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: and getting drunk. Right now, let's say that the alternative 345 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: spring break is probably one of the most positive outcomes 346 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: of springbreak. Not to say that when I was in college, 347 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: I did not look forward to having that week off, 348 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: and may be I did walk into this podcast a 349 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: little bitter that I don't still have that time off, 350 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: because I have friends who are now getting their masters, 351 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: are there in law school, and this is the time 352 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: when they're all going on spring break. Now I almost 353 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: forget what springbreak was like. It must have been so 354 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: nice for me to not do homework for a week, 355 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: to be able to sleep late shivering in New York City. 356 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: That was only one year. I honestly don't remember what 357 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I did for springbreak for the rest of college. So 358 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: I hope that listeners will consider this our kind of 359 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: spring break gift to ourselves. Just just a fun little 360 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: podcast trying to figure out where this strange bakan all 361 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: came from, and it really just came from that sun 362 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: and alcohol and cheap airfare and George Hamilton's and my purse. 363 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: So please tell us about what you did or currently 364 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: do during spring break uh in college, if you went wilder, 365 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: if you maybe did some all turnative spring break stuff. 366 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: Mom Stuff at Discovery dot com is where you can 367 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: send those letters. And we've had a couple of letters 368 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: here to share from our episode on women's wrestling, and 369 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: this first one is from Andrew, who is a big 370 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: fan of professional wrestling, and he writes. In recent years, 371 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: ww e's hiring policy of women has been to hire 372 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: models and train them to wrestle. Usually this sends up 373 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: poorly in the matches are train wrecks. However, ww E 374 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: has hired some women who are very talented who started 375 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: out on the independent wrestling scene, trained by themselves because 376 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: they loved what they did. Beth Phoenix, Nataila need Heart, 377 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: and Karma and ww E are good examples. Some of 378 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: the models even took to wrestling well, like Eve Torres, 379 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: who trains in Brazilian jiu jitsu. The independent scene has 380 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: a vast array of talents, such as Sarah Delray, cheerleader 381 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Melissa and Mischief, whose day job consists of being a microbiologist. 382 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: If you want to check out a promotion in the 383 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: U s as talented female wrestlers, check out the Shimmer promotion, 384 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: and the promotion is based more off the wrestling than 385 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: sex appeal. So thanks for that insight on women and wrestling, Andrew. Okay, 386 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: this is from Shane. He has some thoughts to share 387 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: in wrestling as well. Um, I can get behind the 388 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: mixed wrestling at the college level, and I can get 389 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: behind more opportunities for girls wrestling at the high school level. 390 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: I don't think I can get behind mixed wrestling at 391 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: the high school level. And here is why. High school 392 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: is a time when boys and girls are learning appropriate 393 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: behavior in relation to sexuality. It is also a time 394 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: when hormones are running wild. While listening to your podcast, 395 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: I tried to think about what it was like for 396 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: me when I was in high school. Wrestling with a 397 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: girl would have posed some awkward problems. This sort of 398 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a situation is just asking for an unintended sexual harassment suit, 399 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: not to mention the social stress associated. So thanks, that 400 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: makes sense. I can see how there could be some 401 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: some awkwardness in that tiny, tiny ring or Matt on 402 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: the mat. I would say ring for Matt you're thinking 403 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: of de wut you kids wrestling in the DeFi also 404 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: would be its weird defeat. Okay, well. 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