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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I mean it's it's a couch a

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Speaker 2: room full of Michigan girls.

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Speaker 3: We are in half a dozen deep.

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Speaker 4: We are.

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Speaker 3: You're not a Michigan fan, this episode is not for you.

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Speaker 2: So with it being premiere week, my girls, my Michigan

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Speaker 2: girls came in to support because we've we've watched some

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Speaker 2: movies whenever I come home for the for the holidays,

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Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving time, the girls have been sweet. We've put

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Speaker 2: our little pjs on and we've they've watched the movies.

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Speaker 2: They've always been really supportive of all the holiday movies.

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Speaker 2: And so they you know, when I was like, well

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Speaker 2: this one's actually gonna be a premiere in Franklin, They're like,

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Speaker 2: let's turn it into a girl's trip.

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Speaker 3: So here they are high girls.

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't love an excuse for another? Girls like we're

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Speaker 1: here for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: We do need a little brief introduction from you, girls,

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Speaker 5: because there's a lot of voices, so we're going to

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Speaker 5: establish our own little cast of characters here, so we

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Speaker 5: need your maybe first and last name Kramer doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: To you, It doesn't matter. Well, so for how this

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Speaker 3: group identifies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I'll just you know, we'll just go with

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Speaker 2: how first I met them?

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Speaker 3: Right, like? So first up was Lisa.

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Speaker 2: Hi. So I met Lisa in sixth grade and Lisa,

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Speaker 2: you want to tell them how we became friends?

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 6: So we were in sixth grade math class and it

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Speaker 6: was like the first week of school accent and I know.

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Speaker 5: It's so thick, I like it, and everybody's say, Kaki

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Speaker 5: pants exactly that that pack that a.

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Speaker 6: And so we were in math class. We weren't even

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Speaker 6: sitting by each other, and lunchtime was coming, and I

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Speaker 6: was like, do you want to sit with my friends?

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Speaker 7: She came and sat with us.

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Speaker 3: And I had no friends.

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Speaker 2: None of my friends from elementary school I believe went

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Speaker 2: to this.

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Speaker 6: We went to a different elementary school we went. And

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Speaker 6: then that's that's how it started.

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Speaker 5: And so you ate lunch with Lisa. I did we're

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Speaker 5: any of the other girls in this table?

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Speaker 7: Rachel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rachel income incoming, Rachel. I. So Rachel is a

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Speaker 2: part of that friend group.

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Speaker 4: So I was friends with Lisa since third grade. And

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Speaker 4: so when I went to middle school and Lisa brought

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Speaker 4: Janna to the lunch table. I was there, so that

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Speaker 4: is that is how it started, you know, sixth grade friendship.

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Speaker 3: This is incredible. And then after that came Andrea.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hello Andrea.

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Speaker 3: I go by Angee from this group and the names Matt.

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Speaker 1: I know you can tell when people met me in

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Speaker 1: my life because all my college friends call me dri.

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Speaker 1: So when people call me one, it's either like close

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Speaker 1: family or og high school girls.

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Speaker 3: Yep, the ogs exactly, and we were high school.

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Speaker 1: We were high school. I will say, my South African

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Speaker 1: husband has trained the Michigan accent out of me, though,

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Speaker 1: so I like, I've actually done some voiceover work now,

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Speaker 1: so it's really really I did, but only through my

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Speaker 1: job because we do work for Volkswagen, so I was

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Speaker 1: doing all the dealer videos. But so he trained The

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Speaker 1: last word was bag and he was like, you cannot

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Speaker 1: say it like that, so I'll now forget.

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Speaker 2: When I went to Los Angeles one of my first auditions,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't realize it at the time, but the

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Speaker 2: cast and director goes, can you say I just talked

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Speaker 2: to my mom and like we got out of the

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Speaker 2: car and I have to grab my bag.

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Speaker 3: And I was like sure, So my mom and we.

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Speaker 2: Went to the car in the bag and then they

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Speaker 2: started laughing and I goes, oh, the joke's on me.

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Speaker 3: I'm changing my accent. Then here we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well originally Canadian, so that helped. I just had

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Speaker 1: to go back to those roots and just leveled it out,

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Speaker 1: Like career in newscasting maybe is coming for me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, onge right, yes, can I go oji?

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Speaker 1: I told the girls, I'm like, I love christ and

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Speaker 1: I listened to the podcast all the time, and it's

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Speaker 1: such a weird dynamic because I'm like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I know so much about you and you know nothing

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Speaker 1: about me, but you should call me. It's great, it

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Speaker 3: Okay, But I also don't want to be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: she's new to the group. She can't do that. I'm

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Speaker 3: at the lunch table.

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Speaker 2: And then we've got Chelsea. Nos Chelsea is interesting because

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Speaker 2: so and I mean it in the most loving of ways.

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Speaker 2: So Chelsea, I always say, because it's hard to when

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Speaker 2: we're we're all together and it's like friends since middle

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Speaker 2: school and then even though Ange was kind of high school,

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Speaker 2: and then I always loop you into the high school

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Speaker 2: just because but we didn't go to the same high school.

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Speaker 2: That's right, because I'm younger, Oh, Chelsea, but I consider you,

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Speaker 2: you know, you just it's like it's like we did.

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Speaker 1: It's like we did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I feel like ever since we met, especially with all

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Speaker 8: the girls, it just clicked, like you're just so wonderful.

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Speaker 5: So I have a question, because this is from all,

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Speaker 5: this is, this is your decades together. How are y'all

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Speaker 5: friends together? Like the four of you because you're common

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Speaker 5: denominator well except for you too, we're lunch table, but

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Speaker 5: then the common denominators janus, but you travel as a pack.

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Speaker 7: So this is what she does. By the way, Rachel's

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Speaker 7: the glue. I might be the glue.

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Speaker 4: Well, Lisa and I were from elementary school, and then

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Speaker 4: Jana since middle school, Andrea since high school, and then

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Speaker 4: Chelsea and I were sorority sisters at Michigan State and

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Speaker 4: lived together. So I just glued everyone together.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we went through seasons of friendship too,

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Speaker 1: like we stayed friends. But it's like like Janna, you

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Speaker 1: and I had moments where, like you know, depending on

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Speaker 1: which guys we were hanging out with. Right, we had

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Speaker 1: a basketball era, Rachel and I had a waitressing era.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea and I are era is actually right now. We

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Speaker 1: are like the wellness girlies of the group, so we

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Speaker 1: bond on all things. Like in that regard, Lisa and

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Speaker 1: I were college like summer six, mixing up mohitos with

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Speaker 7: That was us. And we would go see Jenna in Nla.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we took a trip to see Jenna in La.

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Speaker 1: That's when we were in Adam Levine's bathroom. I remember

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Speaker 1: that trip.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a prefect segue because I would love

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Speaker 5: and I think the listeners would deeply appreciate some stories

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Speaker 5: that have never ever been told.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, and so with are we talking like high school?

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Speaker 3: I want juicy? So probably high school and above.

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Speaker 7: Because last night was really fun.

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Speaker 2: We did talk about some high school stuff last.

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Speaker 3: Night at least one story.

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Speaker 5: And I know by the look you're giving me you

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Speaker 3: So that's how I know it's going to be good. So, now,

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Speaker 3: do you guys have one? I know, like, what would

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Speaker 3: be a good but juicy story.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You guys have to comander the bus. It's fine, the

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Speaker 5: one that involves a boy. Maybe we need to expand

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Speaker 5: on the basketball era.

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Speaker 1: No, I really honestly, I don't. I mean we used

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Speaker 1: and Sonny and the Escalade era like so Janna and

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Speaker 4: But in high school, so I was the oldest. I

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Speaker 4: got my license in. Jana was two months after me,

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Speaker 4: and then she got a red a layout and she

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Speaker 4: around in the red alo. I wouldn't say it's a

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Speaker 4: juicy story, but there was one year for Halloween, Lisa

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Speaker 4: and I were trying to remember what grade were we

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Speaker 4: in when we went as the Spice Girls.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember, girl?

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Speaker 7: Weren't we at your house?

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Speaker 4: Ganna? We were at your house and we were like

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Speaker 4: spraying people's hair, yes, black.

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Speaker 7: No, I think it was at my house.

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Speaker 2: It was Ashley her Yeah, yeah, she was the black

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Speaker 2: We were spraying her hair black and it got all

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Speaker 2: when we were trick or treating. Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of anything.

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Speaker 6: We were talking about something today and we didn't remember

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Speaker 6: how I cried, I remember when that was nice of

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Speaker 6: you guys.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of actually did dick moment?

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Speaker 7: Didn't you say it?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: Share that one? Share that one?

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Speaker 1: What's the dick?

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Speaker 3: Ashley?

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Speaker 7: I was going to say that wasn't me. Okay, you

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Speaker 7: mean in the yearbook, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: She you were emotional, like you're just an emotional person.

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Speaker 5: It feels exciting to not be the emotional one. I

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Speaker 5: just want to declare how validating that is, Janna, the

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Speaker 5: emotional one continue going.

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Speaker 7: Through a divorce.

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Speaker 2: I was very I was too connected to my high

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Speaker 2: school boyfriend at the time. He strung me along a

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Speaker 2: little bit too much, totally. So yeah, so like you're

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Speaker 2: and I went senior year.

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Speaker 6: You had to write like memories and it was like

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Speaker 6: remember when dot dot so like everybody had to write

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Speaker 6: in like remember when like we beat this football team whatever,

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Speaker 6: you know, the class of things, and I think yours.

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Speaker 7: You actually wrote remember when?

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Speaker 2: I well, because I knew Ashley wrote it, so I

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Speaker 1: I was actually on the journalism team and I still

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Speaker 1: have those newspapers I will look on way to get.

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Speaker 7: Home, So you too could have easily deleted that. Okay,

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Speaker 7: So what happened?

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought we knew that she knew. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what it was.

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Speaker 5: Wait, so what happened? So Ashley? What is Ashley put

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Speaker 5: in print? And how does Ashley get that done? And

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Speaker 5: where's Ashley?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Such a great question.

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Speaker 7: Yes, we're not sure. I mean, at the time, it

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Speaker 7: probably I don't.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, you just had your head

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Speaker 6: heart on your sleeve and you did cry a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, looking back now, it was like funny for

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Speaker 6: maybe you to say it, but also like.

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Speaker 7: Wait, so Ashley, what is Ashley Wright? She just wrote?

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Speaker 6: Remember when in her high school memory was Gianna cried

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Speaker 6: because it was like.

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Speaker 3: She did boo Ashley.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't the best, but at the time I

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Speaker 6: probably thought it was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the time, I feel like we were all friends.

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Speaker 1: And wasn't it like I don't know, I honestly don't remember,

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't it have been I don't remember it being

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and there any did anybody ever get in trouble,

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Speaker 3: Was I not with you? Guys?

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Speaker 7: And the best part was we were.

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Speaker 7: Very bad choice, like Copper's really good. So the cop

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Speaker 1: It was totally much more innocent than what actually happened.

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Speaker 3: So who was when I was the maker of the group.

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Speaker 8: Not me?

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say I wouldn't say you.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we had trouble made because even

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Speaker 7: But we didn't even skip. We told our.

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Speaker 3: And she was like, Doug Dawson, yes, yes, and I

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Speaker 6: And that's what we were just talking about but so

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 6: They were nice guys though likewethearts, they were Yeah, they

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Speaker 7: They weren't like the you know, jerks or whatever. But

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Speaker 7: She still plugs her nose. I'm just joking.

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Speaker 4: About.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love her.

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Speaker 6: No, I think that you are still like in tune

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Speaker 7: Like that's just you and like you I think, are

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Speaker 6: I mean, but I think that's also why we've been

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Speaker 4: I think you're just so resilient. You know, even since

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Speaker 4: middle school, through high school, through all of life, you

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 8: Right, So, something I've noticed, and I've been thinking about

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I just think the more people we meet, too, the

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's so unique.

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Speaker 5: It's fun to me because I'm an adult friend of Jamma,

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Speaker 5: and that is exactly what she's done in our group.

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Speaker 5: Like there's girls that I would have probably never been friends.

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Speaker 3: With, but she's the glue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like she's made a queendom and then we all

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Speaker 5: Like it's this trait she has that I don't think

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Speaker 2: Well, I just appreciate all you guys because you guys

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Speaker 1: So, but it means a lot. You come you came

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Speaker 1: But you twice we saw you in the like three

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Speaker 2: And you guys are so sweet about the like coming

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Speaker 2: You guys got to stay strong with me and let's

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Speaker 7: Okay, we'll playing a girls trap.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it will be a lot easier because our kids

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to those listening, call someone from middle school, high school,

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Speaker 6: Well, that's my daughter is now at the same middle

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Speaker 6: you never know, you never know who you're going to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, could be at a movie premiere.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, all right bye girls,

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