WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2022 NFL MegaPod Week 18 Preview 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:12.400 Check it down man, now down man. It is Thursday, 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.119 January six, two thousand two. Happy New Year, everybody, and 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.200 for the first time ever, Week eight to the NFL, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.919 it is the Beating the book Megapod. Gil Alexander out today. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.880 I am Mike Palm, vice president of Operations for Circa 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.880 and host of Odds On with them All Shaw on 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.240 Visa Monday through Friday, two o'clock in the East, eleven 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.600 am in the West. Joining me regular panelist Todd Wish 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.360 of Good Morning Todd, Good morning, Mr Mikey, thank you, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.160 and first time guest, longtime listener to the Megapod. Mr 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.519 Frank Schwab is our guest this week. Frank is the 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.400 senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. They're betting analysts, a 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.360 regular guest on on Odds On and the Nuts, and 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.240 and from time to time on a numbers game with Gil, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:08.520 and one time NFL MVP voter. Good morning Frank, Yeah, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.759 I got it in that once. Hey. Happy to be here. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.880 I've listened to all the best of Guil. I've listened 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.680 to his show for years and it is an honor 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.960 to be on here with you guys and chop it 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.000 up for a Weekend. Okay, tell that story. What how 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:21.840 how are you one time an m v P voter 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.399 and no longer an m VP. That's interesting. This was, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.920 I mean it was. I can't even say it was 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.400 back when I had hair, because that that would like 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.840 thirty years ago. But I yeah, I got a shot 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.520 one time in two thousand nine, UH voted for Drew Brees. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.040 He was the right call for m VP. Peyton Manning 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.000 one instead. I'll die Toto Grave saying I made the 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.200 right boat there. I got one shot because one of 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.039 the it was a long story. One of the voters 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.960 couldn't do it because the paper didn't allow it. But 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:50.920 my paper is like, sure, go for it. It was 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.480 pretty awesome. It was pretty awesome to be a part 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.560 of that panel. Do you think, before we get into 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.160 the format of the show, do you think, Frank, that 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.960 hub Arkish will have his rights revoked after this year? 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.280 I do, I honestly do. I don't know how that well. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.160 I've met him a couple of times, but it's just 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.240 one of those things you can't come out and say 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.600 I dislike this guy and I'm not gonna vote for 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.400 him for m VP because of it. You just can't 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.799 like it's it's that's not that's not the spirit of 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.760 m VP. It's not I think that MVP should be 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.320 about so well, you know that maybe there was a 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.360 discussion somewhere in there about hey, Aaron Rodgers let his 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.079 team down by missing a game and blah blah blah. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.639 You can't come out and say it's the biggest jerk 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.399 in the NFL and I won't like, you just can't. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.400 It's so yeah, I think the I think the panel there, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.440 they at the Associated Press can have to look really 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.400 really hard at that. I also find it incredulous that 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:41.520 Aaron Rodgers has never heard of hub arc Is though. Yeah, right, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.720 like Aaron Rodgers has rabbitters Man, he hears everything, he 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.880 knows everybody like, yeah, he's he's definitely, but he's an 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.560 absolute bum. I guess what what a great like old 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.519 school like the insult with a guy, you're a bumb 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:58.000 Oh he's played for the Dodgers, Like that's great. So, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.880 as we normally do, we start to show off with 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.600 some survivor talk where it here it is the last 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.480 week of the year started out with close to fort 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.640 entrants and we are down to five. All five advanced 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.280 from last week. Three of the five are eligible for 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.200 the million dollar bonus because they still have one of 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.400 last year's two Super Bowl teams available. Two of the 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:25.280 entries have Kansas City available, one entry has Tampa Bay available. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.000 Now should they the three of them use it, and 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.480 it's a great likelihood they'll all use those picks in 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.160 Kansas City and Tampa Bay win. Let's just say all 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.560 five win. They would split the six million five ways, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.800 one point two million each, and then those three would 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.960 put the bonus state each get three hundred and thirty 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.680 three thousand. So the person sitting there with I think 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.640 a scheduling advantage and survivor are those that have Kansas 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.600 City available. Since it's the first game on Saturday. If 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.720 they win with Kansas City, the worst they can do 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.760 is win one point five three million, and I think 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.600 on Sunday they could then take the other three selections. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.480 Let's say it's Tampa Bay, Tennessee and Washington football team 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.720 and make a three team money line parlay and hope 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.680 to lose because if one of them loses, your the 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.560 worst you did is just go from go up from 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:19.040 one point to the one point five million. Thoughts on that, Todd, Oh, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.560 I thought you were you were asking, Frank, I think 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.840 obviously that that seems to be the way to how 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.360 much can they win? What's the ratio on the three 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.800 team money line parlay? Well, we'd have to we have 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.760 to see what it what it would be. I mean 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.680 right now, here's what I'm assuming. I'm assuming those three used. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.839 They use Kansas City, who's who's a ten point favorite 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.640 ten and a half point favorite? And Tampa Bay who's 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.880 this eight point favorite was a sixteen point favorite on 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.280 the look Ahead. One of the two other Syracuse Hawkeyes 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.120 has the Titans available. They're also a ten and a 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.760 half point favorite on the road against the Texans. And 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.320 then the other entry, Chris Piper, he doesn't have much left. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.559 The biggest favorite he has left is the Wolf tis 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.440 the football team? UM, who are who are laying six 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.800 six and a half at the Giants? So if those 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.719 were the picks and the guys that took Kansas City 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:15.760 parlayed on the money line, uh, Tampa Bay, Tennessee and Washington. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.040 I'm looking right now at the odds. Washington's about to sixty. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.680 The Titans are around UM five dollars and the Buccaneers 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.680 about three fifties. So you're looking at a three team 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.800 money line parlay. That's that you can put. Yeah yeah, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.680 maybe a little less than that. We can do the 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.680 math here, but you could do that, or you can 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.640 bet the games individually. The thing is all of the 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.240 games go early, right, so they're all I think. So, No, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.240 the Bucks is a game, so you can wait with that. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:48.600 On the East, you could wait. You could do a 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.560 two team money line parlay in the first game, see 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.760 where you're at, and then decide what you want to 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.159 do on the Bucks. But what a great position to 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.599 be in for all these folks, um. Obviously four of 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 them advanced with Green Bay on Christmas Day and one 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.960 advanced with Tennessee on the Thursday before. That's how all 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.520 of them got here. As we whittled it down, uh 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.640 in that group from sixteen to nine and then from 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.800 from nine to five. Todd, you want to update everybody 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.520 on the performance last week and where we stand with 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:21.080 the records. Sure. Absolutely, the huge week by Mikey Mr 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.799 Michael Palm going three and oh, a very very solid 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.760 week over fifty one in Cincinnati. The Chargers was a 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.760 no doubter, and the Bears, which was a no doubter, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.320 so you basically had three no doubter wins. You also 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.120 want your teaser to go to six and one on 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.120 the regular spread and nine seven and one on the teaser. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:47.640 Gil keeps the lead because he went twenty He went 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.520 two and one against uh the spread last week to 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:55.440 go to twenty six, and he had the Bengals Tennessee 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.560 and almost got there with the wolf Tis they they 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.560 he had plus three and a half. They lost by four. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.760 He lost his teaser though he is now eight eight 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.240 and one on the teasers. Looks like I have the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.760 teaser championship locked up. I went to in one last week. Also, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.320 Jacks in New England was the only one that didn't 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.640 get there for me. Unfortunately, uh I. I knew the 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.360 Jags weren't going to score more than seven to ten points. Unfortunately, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.960 the Patriots rolled up the score like they did against 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.360 the Browns, and that was the one thing I was 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.920 concerned about. And of course the Patriots did it again. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.200 So I went to and one to go to twenty 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.040 one and thirty. I am eleven and six on teasers 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.840 because I won my teaser pretty easily with Green Bay 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.600 and the Charges, So that's where we are. You could 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.920 still catch Gil. I got all of guilds picks here. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.880 You could still catch Gil, especially because we're going through 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.560 the playoffs. You're only uh have one game back in 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.080 the lost column. Yeah, one and a half overall, and 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:51.520 the guests Will Hill had Bengals winner, Tennessee winner, Steelers winner, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.400 and Chargers uh in Seattle. So he went four and 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.440 all as well. So a great week for little Hill. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.320 Who does that New York City podcast asked on visa 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.600 and it's a regular on the Lombardi line. Okay, Frank, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.840 the formatt are three best bets against the spread. You 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.400 can take a side or a total. It's based on 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.000 the consensus number right now. Then a two point two 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.559 teams six point teaser, and then we'll ask a couple 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.360 of questions to end the show off. You're the guests, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.400 so you have the honors this week, Frank. You know 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.400 I'm gonna start off with all three of my picks 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.400 are going to be about the same point spread range, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.840 and all of them are underdogs because I like the 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.600 underdogs of this final week because we've lines get inflated 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.480 because we hear all the time of oh this team 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.160 has nothing to play for. Well that's garbage. Most of 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.720 the time they're out of playoff contention, but there's something 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.079 to play for. My first pickens, he laughed, Falcons to 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.840 four and a half. Look, we all know by now 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.880 this is one of the great NFL rivalries. It's underrated, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.280 maybe not even underrated anymore. Falcons Saints is a huge 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.120 deal to those teams. And I think the Falcons, like 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.600 a couple of other teams I like this, are going 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.920 to want to knock the Saints out of playoff contention. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.320 We all know their scenario. The Saints wins, lose, the 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.240 Saints are in and I think that that is push 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.720 this line up a little bit. I don't trust the 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.520 Saints offensive score a lot. Look, I was watching that 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.199 Panthers game last week and I'm like, oh wow, it's 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.480 still you know, ten nine Panthers and I was twelve 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.080 ten Saints, and they just can't pull away from anybody. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.920 This is not a team. It's gonna put up a 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.840 lot of points. I don't think Falcons are a good 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.240 team by any means, but I think that this is 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.680 their super Bowl. They put everything into this game. We 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.959 see we year after year final week of the season, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.360 teams come out and even if they're not in playoff contention, 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.040 under say we got one game left and we can 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.040 go golfing on Monday. Let's put it all on the 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.800 line here. Let's play hard. We see underdogs do pretty well. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.080 If if they've been game the season, they played pretty well, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.320 they'll take the Giants at all. But if a team 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.080 like the Falcons who has played hard, they did play 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.280 hard at Buffalo last week, I think that the Falcons 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.400 give them all they can handle. I think they even 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.600 have a shot to win here and give me four 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.160 and a half home with them, I think they're gonna 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.719 be fired up. Falcons plus four and a half is 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:06.559 my first best pat here Todd couldn't. I couldn't agree 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.440 anymore with Frank Brother. I have that. I have that 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.679 circles my number four one. But and I think he's 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.640 saying something that we should warn everybody. UM in the 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.800 last two years, I think I just saw on Twitter 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.280 teams that need to win in the last two weeks 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.960 versus teams that have nothing to play for, the teams 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.240 that have nothing to play for against the spread, something 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.520 to that, something to that range. So UM, if you're 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.800 a novice at sports gambling and you think you're going 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.680 to win because you're going to take the team that 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.280 has to win, be very careful. That is not a 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.640 good strategy, Todd, Can you read gils first pick and 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.040 then give your own Yes, gills first pick is the 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.679 forty Niners plus four and a half. It was another 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.040 one that I kind of liked. I'm gonna assume he's 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.600 banking on the fact that Niners have really dominated the 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.439 Rams uh in the last couple of meetings. I think 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.559 they've won the last five or six straight. Um. I 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.920 kind of agree with that pick too. I like the Niners, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.760 especially if Jimmy She's gonna play Jimmy g always scares me. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.600 But I am not a fan of the Rams. I 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.719 think the Rams are shaky. Look at last week, they 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.480 barely squeaked by. They're just not Matt Stafford. You know, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.360 he is a tremendous talent, but he is not a 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:21.600 guy you feel comfortable with when you absolutely need it. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.880 And that's my feeling, and that's probably what Gil's thinking 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.640 to here, and he has Niners plus four and a half. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.240 I don't know what you guys think about that one. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.959 Absolutely that's gonna be a mess. I could play because look, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.320 even if it's tray lads, tray lads, he started slow 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.240 last week and then he really heated up, and he 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.320 can make some play. Look that, throw a Deebo Samuel 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.640 and touchdown. I'm sure Kyle Shanahan looks at that a 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.480 film and goes, my main quarterback can't do that. Like 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.280 I can open up the playbook when I got this 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.920 rookie in there and the forty. The Rams most of 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.560 this season been front runners. They beat bad teams, but 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.040 against good teams they're not great that you know. We 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.200 saw last week they almost lost to a depleted Ravens team. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.959 I don't trust this Rams team really and the four 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.720 be Niners, but now we know they need to win. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.640 They need to win. If they don't win, their their 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.640 faith is in the Saints hands to make the playoffs. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.600 So there's a playoff game for the Niners. I think 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.480 we get everything. I mean, I think they win. I 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.199 really do. I think that they're gonna go in there. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.840 We notice Shannaham mcbathing, so yeah, definitely agree. I think 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.400 it's real important that Jimmy g plays rather than the lance. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.080 I was not impressed with Lance at all. Um. I 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.439 actually had a bet on in game bet on that 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.679 game on the team total under, on the type of 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.360 the Texans. I thought Lance was against a really bad team. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.720 I thought he was and he may end up being good, 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.800 but he did not impress me at all. He hasn't 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.880 impressed me all season. But you know, like you said, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.840 we're probably gonna get Jimmy G anyway, so that it's 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.839 not you wouldn't be as Frank. Let's put it this way, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.160 if Lance was playing, you'd be a little more concerned, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.040 especially because the Rams defense is pretty good, and I 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.439 might be as well. I think a little more variance 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.480 for sure. But I look, you said that I was 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.120 watching at first half say woa, Trey, Lance can't do this, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.160 And then the second half he did play well. I'll 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.160 give him credit. He made some plays. I think he 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.200 got really comfortable, and we saw that in the game 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.120 where Jimmy G went out. I can't remember who they 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.000 were playing. It was early in the season before he 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.880 started against Arizona and Trey. The same thing kind of 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.840 happened first couple of series. He's shaky and then he 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.240 really warms up, and I just think that's a young kid. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.240 But yeah, definitely more various for Trey. But I feel 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.960 fine either way, quarterback. I really you're right, Jimmy has 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.720 played a lot better people given credit for. But I 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.199 feel good either way. Quarterback. I think you're referring to 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.559 the Seahawks game in San Francisco. Seahawks. Yeah, yep, yeah, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.840 I couldn't remember who their pone was, but yeah, it 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.000 was one of those where you're like a few series 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.000 and you're like, Trey Lands is in trouble and then 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.839 he got a hot light in the game, and the 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.600 same thing happen against Huston. I'm I'm more with Todd 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.480 than you about Lance. I mean, the first half of 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.360 that game last week was an under in game Underbetter's 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.559 Dream between Trey Lance and and Alec Mills. Uh. Davis 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.360 Mills Uh, I mean Todd I had it under seventeen 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.360 and a half, sixteen and a half, fourteen and a half, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.480 thirteen and a half, and ten and a half. I mean, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.679 it's just who could punt quicker? I mean it was. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.440 It was unbelievable. So I'm gonna have a play on 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.640 this game as well, but it won't be the same one. Okay, Todd, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.520 your first pick, my first pick. I am gonna go 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.200 with the I'm gonna go with the over in the 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.800 l A Chargers game. Um, I think. I think the 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.160 Chargers are just one of those beautiful over teams where 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.800 they're tremendous on offense. We all see the Herbert and 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.800 in the whole story with him. I think obviously, if 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.200 he's not a star already, he's a future star and 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.600 will definitely be in, you know, top three quarterbacks in 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.800 the league for time to come. I think the Chargers 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.960 are outstanding offensively, and I think they're horrendous defensively. Uh. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.280 The only thing that gave them the blowout last because 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.480 they happened to be going against Drew Locke, who is 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.120 not ready for prime time. So I don't I don't think. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.680 And by the way, I took the over last week, 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.240 it's still got there because the Chargers scored so much. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.080 I think the Raiders are the Raiders are pretty good 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.240 on it. I mean, I'm not gonna say they're their 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.040 their world beaters, but you don't have to be a 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.920 world beater to beat the Charge. Remember, the Steelers scored 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.520 thirty four points against this team. The Steelers can't score 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.640 thirty four points against anyone. I mean, I just keep 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.960 going back to game after game after game where the 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.000 Chargers look horrendous on on the defensive side of the ball. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.480 And anybody remember the Browns game where guys were running 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.960 like it was a college game. It was ridiculous. I 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.800 don't think the Chargers can stop anyone, and I think 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.160 that they can score on anyone. So I'm gonna take 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.720 over forty nine and a half in the Charges against 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:31.680 the Vegas Raiders. You know, nothing says more about the 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.160 Chargers defense than the fact that they scored with fourteen 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.040 seconds left and a half and Drew Lock was able 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:43.960 to get a field goal for half. I mean, it's 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.120 it's incredible. It is incredible. That's the standalone game on 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.040 Sunday night. Raiders Chargers winning. You're in uh should be 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.200 a great atmosphere and ticket prices are going through the 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.080 roof here at Allegiance in Las Vegas. All right, I'm 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:02.440 gonna taked. This is your first pick. First, my first pick. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.200 What's the number you have on the Cowboys and Eagles? 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.800 I have six. Oh, it's going even lower. I had 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.720 six and a half a second ago. And now it 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.000 looks like five and a half. Yeah, I think there 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:19.160 was just news about something. Yeah, Parsons and Tyron Smith. Yeah, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.640 I'm gonna take whatever this number is, six or whatever 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.760 you want to give me here. I'm taking say it's 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.240 actually five and a half, but it's not going to 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.440 make a difference. I'm taking the Eagles here, Todd, because 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.920 I don't think either team has anything to play for. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.040 I mean, really, Dallas, what's the reality here that they 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.600 can play their way up. They don't own any tiebreaker. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.800 They don't own any tiebreaker with Tampa Bay because they 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.720 lost that opening night game. There. The Rams playing for 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.640 a lot, as you said, with the forty Niners. I mean, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.000 the Rams are playing for the two seed. Really, the 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.880 two are possibly the five fars owners should win and 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.280 they lose to the forty Niners. So I mean, I 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 think Dallas is pretty much locked into the four and 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.200 knows their faith. They're gonna have to win a game 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.600 at home and then probably go to Lambeau and not 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.760 that that's the worst thing. Maybe winning the game at 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.800 home is that is the bigger problem. I think of 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.399 all the NFC teams, Dallas might actually have the best 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.399 shot to go into Lambeau and win that game. I 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.240 don't think they risk playing anybody if they're they're starters. Start, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:16.960 they may go a quarter, a quarter and a half. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.960 We know Philadelphia is not. They're locked. They're into a 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.840 playoffs scenario. They're going to be a wild card already. Um. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.280 I really think this is just a glorified scrimmage with 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.840 either team making sure nobody gets hurt. And I'll take 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.720 the home team getting more than a field goal in 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:35.000 that spot. I have that circle does my second picks, 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.480 and I might have to switch that one. But I 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.760 actually like that too. I mean, it's ridiculous. Who are 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.359 the Cowboys? Right? Who are the Cowboys to be giving 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.040 them that many points on the road in a in 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.800 a glorified scrimmage? What are you gonna say? Frank Football 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.200 Outsiders has that the Cowboys get the four seeds, So 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.359 you're pretty much. The only think I'll push back on, though, 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.720 is I remember that came again some Giants a few years. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.639 I think it was a Giants when they made no 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.320 sense for the Cowboys to play their guys and they 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.800 played him the whole freaking game. And you can say, well, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.640 it's a different coach, it doesn't matter. Jerry Jones called 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.560 shots there. So I wonder if they are going to 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.639 play their starters a whole game. I don't agree with it. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.560 I think it's dumb. But it's the Cowboys that dumbly 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:14.840 a couple of years ago, so maybe they do it 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.600 dumbly this time too. But even with their starters, are 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.280 they so great that they're gonna kills? I get that 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.600 there's no motivation there, there's no and then he goes 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.359 about playing well, like, look, I get next seriality a 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.400 lot of credit. I wondered if a couple of months 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:28.639 of the season, I was like, this guy might be 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.040 a donkey, but he actually has turned that thing around. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.560 And how about Hurts? How about Hurts? This guy might 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:38.080 actually be good. I remember thinking this guy is horrendous 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.080 and he actually looks I really think as far as 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.800 improvement goes, I don't know if you guys agree with 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.400 me on this. I think he's improved. I can't think 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.800 of any quarterback who has improved more than Jalen Hurts 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.080 this year. I don't know what you guys think, but 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.640 what I mean, he really looks a lot better. Yeah, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.600 he's good, is really good if you just put out 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.199 in a good tape of him, it's like, WHOA, this 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.040 guy is something. Then you put on the bad tape, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.880 you're like, oh, like no, no, don't about this. So 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.800 you just got to get that in the inconsistency out 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.440 of his game. But the good is really really good 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.760 if you I'll give you guys this question. If you 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:12.280 owned an NFL franchise, and I gave you the choice 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.640 of these four, which one would you want going into 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.280 next year? Is your quarterbacks? You like this, You're ready, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:25.919 You're ready. Jalen Hurts to Taga Violoa him, Mac Jones, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.520