1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian. I like doing this because it makes 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Danny crazy. My mechanic. I got out my little two 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: ounce bullpeen hammer. I said, hey, you want to see 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: something neat? I said, I know what's wrong with this car? 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: He goes, really does the best us buck? He says, 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: how can you prove it? I took two ounce bullping. 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I tapped it right where the connector is. Car shut off. 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: The car Doctor Tom wants me to tell you what 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: BMW stands for. Do you know what BMW stands for? 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what's about to come out of your mouth, 11 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: but I can almost get well. BMW stands for a 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: variety of things. The most common is Bavarian money waster. 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: phone and call in The garage doors are open, but 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight and 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: now he running. You know, I should really be paying 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: all of you to be able to do this, because 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: it's just so much fun working with Tom Ray. I 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: love the opens and you know, Tom, I knew that 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: was gonna work its way in somewhere along the way 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: hammer time. But um uh, listen, the backside of that 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: story is so that was that vehicle we were talking about, 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the O seven gmc envoy that we worked on two 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: weeks ago in the shop, and that actually belonged to 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: the manager of another auto repair shop, um in the 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: neighborhood so to speak. And they had brought it to 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: us because they've worked on it for a while and 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: they couldn't figure it out. And you know, they fixed 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: my car, you know, another Obi wan Kenobi moment, and 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: um uh, when they picked it up, he brought one 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: of his text I think he was the headtech because 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: they were both kind of like, how could it be 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: the fuse box? We took the fuse box apart. We 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: didn't see it, you know. And listen, we all have 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: our bad days. We all have our good days, you know, 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: we're all. If anything I want to repair teaches you 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: very well is how to be humble well most of 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: the time. Um you know. And and when I showed 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: them the crack in the fuse box, and you know, 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: talking about being humbled of things you can't do. I 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: am going to get the video up on the website, 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: uh this weekend. I promised that, because it's actually on 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. If you go to YouTube and search 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: ron and any in the library comes up, and then 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: the most recent video the oh seven envoy, it's got 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: it explains what we did and you know what I found. Uh, 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: but it was just funny how they just sat there 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: and looked at that fuse box. I mean, I gave 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: him the old part back because I know this would 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: be like taking a three year old to Disneyland, right. 54 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: They were just fascinated, you know, like, but there's no crack. Yeah. 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Look see if you take a magnifying glass out and 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: you go right down there, and they just sat there 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: and looked at it. Went wow, and I said, yep, 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: that's a breaking the copper lug. That's a bad fuse box. 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Uh you know so, and they just looked at They 60 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: looked at it three or four times before they left 61 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: the shop. I know that went back to their shop 62 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: and everybody's gathering around, going will you look at this, 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: look at what broke. It's just listen, techn oology is 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: not an easy thing to deal with. It's just it's 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating in a lot of cases, and 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: how things fail and understanding how things fail can help 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: us as as as diagnosticians to try and you know 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: what's going to fail next? And you know, I've got 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: this card doing this weird thing, and you know what's next. 70 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: I you know, the next vehicle that I'm gonna dive into, 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: uh not this week, but the week after. It's coming 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: up in the schedule is a fourteen Chevy Silverado that 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: loses cruise control, a C control and the dashboard goes out, 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: but not all at the same time. Hasn't said any faults, 75 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: haven't been able to duplicate it. And I'm scheduled to 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: start driving that one a week from Monday. So we'll 77 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: be talking about the resolution for that as I as 78 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I kind of get through that, um, you know, and 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: we will. Let's listen. Math doesn't lie, you know, I 80 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: keep quoting that from that movie Hidden Figures. You know, 81 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: math doesn't lie. It's there's always a reason and always 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: a half. Hey, we just posted up on Facebook this 83 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: morning from Let's see Empa. What is this from the website? Yeah, Empa. 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: This came into US from Research Kathy uh from news Wise. 85 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: They talk about a a something the Swiss are doing 86 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Swiss federal laboratories and they're testing electric cars to see 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: how they burn and the explosions and you know the results, 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of an interesting read. Um it's 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it just talks about UM. I 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: love the line. Extinguishing water is poison as a problem 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: wherever the extinguishing and cooling water is produced when fighting 92 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: such a fire and storing a burnt out battery and 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: a water base in the analysis showed that the chemic 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: contamination of the extinguishing water exceeds the Swiss special values 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: for industrial waste water by a factor of seventy. I 96 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: never even thought about that that as you're cooling the fire, 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: trying to put the fire out, the water that's gonna 98 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: wash off into the environment is toxic and what do 99 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you do with that? Now? The Swiss and it's great 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: if you read the article, they talk about how they 101 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: had to decontaminate the fire and you know, by a 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: fire cleanup team. And I'll tell you what, I see 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: a lot of job opportunities with electric vehicles. We're gonna 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: have to increase the number of firefighters are gonna have 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: to increase the number of people involved in fires. Um, 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: so it's just it's just kind of interesting stuff. That's uh, 107 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: that's going on. But we posted that up on up 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: on the website or up I'm sorry, up on Facebook 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: for you all to read and uh, you know, to 110 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: talk about and read about. And that's that's really what 111 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: it's all about. Let's, um, you know what, let's let's 112 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: take a call if we can early. Let's get the 113 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: garage doors going, because I think it's gonna be a 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: busy day sort of see this. Let's go over to 115 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Joe in New Jersey. Joe from Jersey twenty two. Accurate, Joe, 116 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: this car is too new to be broken. Oh no, 117 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Tom says, no, I can't do that. Look at that 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: Tom's yelling at me. So well, um, you know, it's 119 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: it's always interesting to see how a new car can fail. 120 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: So that's um, that's gonna be a good phone call 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: if it when Tom ever allows me to take it. 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: But um, you know, in any event, what else do 123 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: we do this week in the shop? We had, Um, 124 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: it was a light week. It seems that everybody is 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: away on vacation the last a couple of days, and um, 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm getting HI sign now I can I 127 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: can continue, I can continue to continue. We'll talk about 128 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: the shop in the next break. Let's go over to 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Joe and Jersey accurate md X Joe, this car is 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: too not too new to be broken. What's going on? 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: It is? I believe I had a safety issue, very 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: wrong with the vehicle. You're right, it is BRANDWAD and 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: I built the car and an updated term level to 134 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: have the navigation built in because I've used navigation for years. 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: So when I use the navigation and while I have 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: the radio on, whether it's a MS on the satellite, 137 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: and then now it comes on the instructions, the radio 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: does not silence. So now I'm looking for the control 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: mob to turn down the volume, distracting myself from driving, 140 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: and it doesn't function that way. I was in touch 141 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: with Actuate, the vealer and the home office, and they 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: advise me that is functioning the way they designed it. 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: They're not going to have any updated software for this issue. 144 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: But I believe it's definitely a safety issue from not 145 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: on our car, but all other cars on the road. 146 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Did you report it to n h T s A. 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I did not as yet. This is kind of fessionally 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: as of Friday from the home office of whereas they 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: advise me, they're not going to do anything. That's the 150 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: way they designed it. Well, and from what I understand, 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: what you're telling me is as if you're listening to 152 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the radio as navigation goes off in order for you 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: to hear navigation to say left, turn, right, turn, slow down, 154 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: speed up, whatever, then you can't. It's the radio and 155 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the navigation voice are both playing at the same time. Exactly. Well, 156 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of insane. Let's get ahead, you know, let's 157 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: get let's get let's get let's get three people to 158 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: talk all at once and see who understands what right 159 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: exactly exactly, so your your recourse has to begin with 160 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a case for a National High which 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Graphic Safety Authority dot Gov n h T s A 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: dot Gov and report that as a potential issue, and 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: if they get enough people complaining about it, then eventually 164 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: they'll be forced to go on approach accurate and say, Okay, 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: what's going on here. I can almost guarantee the textbook. 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee the textbook and answer Accurate was 167 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: going to give you in that you know, they were 168 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: going to say that there's nothing they can do about it. 169 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: That's the way it's designed. That's the way. But you 170 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: wonder who designed it. Where's the common sense thinking? Because 171 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: I advised my correspondence not only too accurate, but the 172 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: dealer I've had two other vehicles CRX and on their 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: cared that car I traded into this model. Both in 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: the Nattie came on, the radio went dead beautiful. That's 175 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: not the way it's functioning to this high end vehicle, 176 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: and it should. You know, when I drive my Explorer, 177 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: the Explorer in the family, and we use navigation, if 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: we're listening to the radio, the radio goes, you know, 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: tones down, and navigation comes up so you can hear navigation. 180 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: And then when she's done saying her thing, the radio 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: slowly comes back up in volume. I think that's a 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna say, I'm gonna call that a defect, 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say that's a design defect. I think 184 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Accurate got that wrong. I think that's I think that's 185 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: a big well, remember what accurate stands for, Joe. I 186 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: have to say this even though Tom tells me I'm 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: not allowed to do you know what? Do you know? What? 188 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Do you know? What? Accurate stands for another crummy, underpowered, 189 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: rotten automobile. Joe, I gotta go, all right, I gotta 190 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: I gotta go. Tom's Tom's giving me the time. But hey, listen, 191 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: follow up. Let us know if you get any response 192 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: from Nitza, if you hear anything from Accura, as always, 193 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: we'll hear, and we're trying to do anything we can 194 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: for you. You you remember the car doctor Nation six 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: zero running any of the car doctors zooming back right 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: after this, don't go away June when you get keep 197 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Ron's number handy eight five five five six zero nine 198 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: nine zero zero for when you really need advice on 199 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: your car. Here's Rob. Hey, let's get over to Josh 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: in the Land of No Electricity, California. How are you today? 201 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: Josh good? You're still You're good? What's going on? What 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: do you got? Um? I have a Toyota Tundra five 203 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: point seven started about eleven thousand miles UM today. I 204 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: scanned it with my scan tool. I got two coats, 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: a P one five seven eight and a C one 206 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: nine break pedal sensor switch. I'm sorry, and uh, there's 207 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: no warning lights, no no a P S light, no 208 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: check engine light on the dash. The only reason I 209 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: found it is because you know, happened to scan it today. UM, 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I was wondering, is that normal? Is there any way 211 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: I could possibly check the voltage just to make sure 212 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: that my scandal is working properly. Well, what I would 213 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: do is I would take your scan tool and go 214 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: plug it into another car number one, number two, what 215 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: what sort of how did you do the scan? Did 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: you do it using O b D two or did 217 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: you go and buy your Make model based on what 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: the scan tools. You're saying your Make model and uh 219 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Toyota enhancements under O b D two. Okay, so it 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: was your make money. So you have the ability to 221 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: do it both ways. You can check O b D 222 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: two side. You can check vehicle specific is what you're saying, Yes, sir, okay, 223 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: When you look at it under O b D two, 224 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: do you get the same faults? Um? When it just 225 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: as the regular diagnostic scan, it just comes up as 226 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: clear for the admissions Russian. But when I go to 227 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the DTCs, Uh, that's the first thing that pops up 228 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: is the eight and then if I do the enhance, 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: it will tell me it's the A B s uh C. Right, 230 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: And they're saying that it's not pending. They're saying it's 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: it's it's in their in the eyes of the scan 232 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: to it's it's it's a it's a current fault. Correct, 233 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: that's correct. We welcome to the world. And I was 234 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna was gonna say welcome to go ahead. Um, I 235 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: was told it could be the booster, the break booster 236 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: going out. Well, you know, the vehicle has no driving 237 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: symptoms though, right, Josh, I mean it runs fine, feels fine, 238 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: no lights. Just the thing is, I noticed lately that 239 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: the brake pedal is like not spongey, but it feels 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: like you can hear the air pumping and I'm pushing, 241 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, pushing it to the floor. It feels like 242 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: one of those tire bike pumps. I'm sorry that, you know, 243 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: the bike tire pumps pump at your foot, same sound, 244 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: same feeling. Um, yeah, it just happened recently that I've 245 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: noticed that feeling. All right, So before we go off 246 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: on a tangent and possibly look at the wrong thing, 247 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: here's a one year old vehicle with less than fifteen 248 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it? Correct? Yes, sir, clear the codes? 249 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Do they come back? Okay? And if the if the 250 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: codes don't come back, but your condition of the brake 251 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: pedal is the same, then I'm going to say that 252 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: your scan tool is giving you erroneous information. Welcome to 253 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: the world of auto repair. And then the question becomes, 254 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: does the vehicle really have a problem with the break 255 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and don't take this the wrong way, brother, or is 256 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: your mind playing tricks on you because it has codes? 257 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: Now the car has a problem. What's real? Um No, 258 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: I definitely understand what you're saying, and I would definitely, uh, 259 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, do that next diagnosis. You know, nobody knows 260 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: your car better than you. You're the one that's been 261 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: driving it all this time. If you're if you're really 262 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: clear in your head that the brake pedal did not 263 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: feel like that that when it was new, that that 264 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: that this condition that the brake pedal feels like, then 265 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: let's let's duplicate it. Let's clear the fault. Does it 266 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: still have that problem? Does it does it still set 267 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: the faull? Do you have a friend with us with 268 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: a similar scan tool or a different scan tool that 269 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: you could scan this vehicle with. UM, I don't have well, 270 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean I have like a cheap bluetooth like L seven. 271 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I could try UM, but I just had to quick 272 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: on the question. Sure, I noticed that my gas mileage 273 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: lately has been a little bit, you know, worse. I 274 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: was wanting. Is there any way that the brakes could be, 275 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, playing pressure while you know I'm not aware 276 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: of it, they could. Well, So the next thing that 277 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy is going to be a thermal thermal 278 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: imager and you're gonna be able to get out and 279 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: measure wheel temperature, and you know they sure it sure 280 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: comes in handy, you know. Plus plus you can also 281 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: use it for fixing a variety of things around the house. 282 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: It keeps it keeps the other half happy because you're 283 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: using it to fix the leaky dryer, the leak event, 284 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the air conditioning is not working right in the house, 285 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the front door has got a leak when it's called. 286 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things you can do with but yeah, 287 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: it's possible. Sure, Look at the rotors. Do they look 288 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: like they're blue? Do they look like they're overheated? Is 289 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: there any sort of a smell coming off the brakes 290 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: like you're baking them, and and all of these things 291 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: are absolutely possible. But before we go off, you know again, 292 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: let's be sure of what we're looking for and looking 293 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: at you know, um, I would also look at fuel 294 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: trim as fuel trim off the chart, you know, the 295 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: fuel trim appear to be normal, and you know, kind 296 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: of take it from there. At this mileage, you're really 297 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: going to turn it over to the dealer if it's 298 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: got a fault. But I know what you're trying to do. 299 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: You're trying to you know, prove beforehands them when you 300 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: walk in there, you're forewarned, is forearmed, and at least 301 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: you'll you know, you'll kind of know what to expect, right, 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: That's really what you're after. Yeah, I've had to take 303 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: it in multiple times, and I think it's just been 304 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: a lemon honestly. Um I'm really trying to, you know, 305 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: get them to buy it back from me if I can, 306 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: because this has going to be like the tenth time 307 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I've taken it to the dealership for you know, tenth 308 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: different leaving right. Um. So, I mean, yeah, I just 309 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what's the best way to go about it. 310 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: I keep taking it back and so it's something different. 311 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: So let's take it should not have this many problems. No, 312 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: let's take it one step at a time. Then, like 313 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know that you do have fault codes. 314 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: You don't know how many times we run into this 315 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: at the shop on a newer vehicle. When I tell you, guys, 316 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: I have seventeen scan tools, I'm probably underestimating it, all right, 317 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: because I would literally walk in pick up a different 318 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: tool if I thought I had an erroneous reading, or 319 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: if I thought the tool was lying to me, I 320 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: would walk in, pick up a different tool and re 321 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: scan it. And you'd be amazed. How many times will gee, 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: that tool doesn't correspond here. I'll give you one real quick. 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: We had a we had a situation this week where 324 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: a shop in the area was working on an Earl 325 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: two Chrysler. Here's a car that's what twenty years old. 326 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: They couldn't get FULD codes out of the A B S. 327 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: It just you know, they tried everything, They walked through 328 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: everything on this car that while they walked through their 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: mode us, then they went somewhere else and they tried 330 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: a different tool and then they went somewhere else and 331 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: they tried a different tool. They showed up by us. 332 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: I put a couple of different things on it, and 333 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I had the factory tool to d r B three, 334 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: the real Chrysler tool right from Chrysler. That was the 335 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: only tool in the shop that pulled correct codes, correct information, 336 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: and and and sometimes that happens. Now you're gonna go 337 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: back to Chrystler and complain about the way they wrote 338 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: their software twenty years ago that certain scan tools in 339 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: the aftermarket today can't correspond and communicate with it. No, 340 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: of course not. But you've just got to be prepared 341 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: that one scan tool is not enough. It really isn't. 342 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: And you may have a problem. You may not. Before 343 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: you work yourself up, you gotta go look at it 344 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: via another tool, clear the code, Does the fault come 345 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: back all right? What? Um? What sort of issues is 346 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: it having or not having? And then from there make 347 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the determinations like we talked about. So good luck to you, Josh, 348 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: keep me posted. I'm as always, I'm curious. You guys 349 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: know that I want to hear how this gets resolved. 350 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: A zero wanted any of the car doctor coming back. 351 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: We're right after this don't go away, fulcome back. We're 352 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: on anating of the car doctor. Hey, Tom, you gotta 353 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: do a little bit of maintenance. Here is that? Okay? 354 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: So listen, um, First of all, some bad news and 355 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: and and this is not good. Um. All the bad 356 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: news is that you showed up to do the show today. Well, 357 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: somebody has to do it if we you know what 358 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: I keep saying that if if if America counted on 359 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: you to display car knowledge, you know what, they would 360 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: hear the sounds of silence and not by the simndling Garfunkel. 361 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: It would be like this not good. You gotta have 362 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: sound on radio. Um. Coming up in November, I want 363 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: to do a quick shout out to my peeps down 364 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: there in Virginia the Coastal Virginia Auto Show November twelveth 365 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: through fourteenth. If I recall, right, we got invited to 366 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: come down to a remote again. Here's the bad news. 367 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I can't do it. Well that actually has good news 368 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: for them. Well it's you know, listen, I I just 369 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I can't do it because you know, I've got a 370 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: family member getting married and if I'm not there to 371 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: walk her down the aisle. I tried that I said, listen, 372 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: I can go and talk about cars and do a 373 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: car show or come to the wedding. And they were like, oh, 374 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: I think you'd better be at the wedding. Okay, so 375 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: that's out details details, right, it's you know, but well, um, 376 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: but on a good news and I guess you know 377 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: what this is. This is more than just a shout out. 378 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: And I know this is a national show and you're 379 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: not supposed to do this, and we tend to do 380 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: what we want anyway, because that's who we are. But um, 381 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm having pizza. I went out for pizza two nights 382 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: ago here in North Jersey to Uncle Louise and Franklin Lakes. 383 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: And you're not supposed to do this on a national 384 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: show because it's national, right. The guy in California probably 385 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: doesn't care about the pizza Rha and franklinlinks New Jersey, 386 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: and it was in California maybe coming here to visit somebody, 387 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: you never know. Well, that's true. I never thought of 388 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: it like that. But this is just to me. It's 389 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: just as important when you were out in Iowa and 390 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: you got you got picked off as the voice of 391 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: the car doctor, right, and and the kid behind the 392 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: counter who is the son of the owner. Dave is 393 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: telling David. David his father was out, you know, schmoozing 394 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: everybody at the tables, and he was talking to us, 395 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: and the sun goes, you know, that guy sounds familiar, 396 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: He goes, I think, I I he listens to us 397 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: on w g h T out of Pompton, and um, excellent, 398 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: there you go, right, So just just when you don't 399 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: think it's possible. So I guess in a way, it's 400 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: a shout out to the gang and Uncle Louise, Pizza 401 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Reia and Franklin Lakes and to the folks over at 402 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: w g h T for having the common sense and 403 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: brains to carry the show. And um, that's what radio 404 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: is about. No, and I wouldn't take it if they did. 405 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: You know that, you know, you know that's how I'm built. 406 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, and I'm and I'm saving the best for last. 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: Dave did make me an offer the owner. He said, 408 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: if we ever want to do a remote from the pizzeria. 409 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, I said Tom, and I 410 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: would walk out the door away in four hundred pounds, 411 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: because nobody's got lasagna. Nobody's got lasagna like this guy. 412 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: And it's just yeah, I know it's um. So I 413 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: just want to let you know. So for the Gang 414 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: of Uncle Louise and w g h T and the 415 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: Coastal Virginia Auto Show, all those stations that make up 416 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor network, we're very happy to be here 417 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: and supporting you guys. Go ahead. We ought to talk 418 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: to Frank over a w G h T hadn't see 419 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: if he can get a couple of classic cars and 420 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: have a classic car afternoon on a Saturday with the 421 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We could do that and go do it 422 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: from a parking lot, Go do it from a local 423 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: sponsors parking a lot, like, uh, you know, I think 424 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: he's I think he's got a couple of four dealers 425 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: on the station and uh we can do that. Or 426 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: the pizza place, Well we could do that too. That'll 427 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: be kind of cool. Yeah, um, Saturday Afternoon with the 428 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. That is actually that actually has a pretty 429 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: good idea. Tom, Tom, you're giving Tom, you're giving me 430 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: more to dough. Let me get over here to the phones. 431 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: Where am I going? Am I going to David First? 432 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: In Pennsylvania. Let's start here. David wants to talk about 433 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: all the cars that he's purchased. I hope they were 434 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: good experiences, David, How can I how can I help? Sir? Hey? Ryan, Yeah, 435 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be on the air. Oh yeah, 436 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: come on. So it's just it's just I know you. 437 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: You probably don't remember me. Uh, this is a bucket 438 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: list question, right. I've owned seven cars, most of them 439 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: sports cars, anywhere from a nineteenth super Bird for six 440 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: four fifty five formulas. I don't want to waste your 441 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: time with that. I'm not in a wheelchair yet, neither 442 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: is my wife. But we just recently sold a four 443 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: forty six packed road Runner. All right, then we miss it? Okay, 444 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: So she said, is what do you want for your birthday? 445 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: We don't have any set things, I says, I want 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: to dodge hell Cat Red Eye? Why not? Yeah? Why not? Yeah? 447 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: Why not? Absolutely? And the reason why we sold the 448 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: road Runner really couldn't drive it in the air. We're 449 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: up in the mountains. Yeah, you hit a zero with that. 450 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: You got me for a year, you know. You know, Dave, 451 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: it's funny you think about back in the seventies and 452 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: the eighties. Well, first of all, I want to make 453 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: one comment because I'm listening to you speak, and I'm thinking, 454 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: how many people out there understand what a four six 455 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: pack is or semi car is? And you know, there's 456 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of language wasted on on on. They 457 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: just they just have no interest or they just have 458 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: no knowledge. I can't decide which. But my point becomes 459 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: that cars of this fifties, sixties, seventies, it was a 460 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: whole culture of language. It was just a different way 461 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: to speak, right, the way we spoke about big block, 462 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: small block, A G S A stage one a HEMI 463 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: uhuh it was L A D eight s. I mean, 464 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: it was just a very different language that that generation 465 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: connected with. And well what I'm yeah, but I used 466 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: to be able to work on the cars. Today's cars, 467 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: oh my god, you can't even work on it. So 468 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: before I make this heavy purchase, the White says, all right, 469 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: you want it for your birthday? Uh, we're gonna go 470 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: down with Sprant and get it. Um. I mean the yeah, 471 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: the four or forty was let a gas and you 472 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: had to do all kinds of a formula. Let that 473 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: out of Not anymore, no, no, not anymore. So the point, 474 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: the point kind of becomes, yeah, you know, hey, Dave, 475 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: how old are you? Let me ask you the question. 476 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: I want to make this decision for you. How old 477 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: are you? Uh? The wifes sixty nine? I'm sixty six. Okay, 478 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So at this point in the game, can you afford 479 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: a twenty hellcat? Yes? Go buy it, brother and just 480 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, come on, yeah, because everybody 481 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: says we're nuts if you can afford it, If you 482 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: can afford it, why not? You know it's you know what, 483 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: are you anymore nuts than the person that has to 484 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: have a new Apple I phone every six months because 485 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: they want the latest and greatest? Are they wrong? Or 486 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: are you wrong? Because? Yeah, I look around me. I'm gone, 487 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, I'm on my way out. I want to 488 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: go out with a bucket. Let me let me let 489 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: me tell you something. You ever look in the Ever 490 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: you ever look in the back of a hearse? Uh? Yes? Okay? 491 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Do you ever see? Do you ever see? Do you 492 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: ever see bags of money there? Okay? You can't take 493 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: it with you? As the saying goes, do you know 494 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: why they put you in a box when you go 495 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: because those those those rollers are well, those rollers are 496 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: murder on your back. But there's no there's no cash 497 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: inside of a hearseman, and if you can afford it, 498 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: if you can really legitimately afford it, and it would 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: put a smile on your face and make that little 500 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: kid inside if you stand up and take notice and say, 501 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: look what Dave did for me today. Man, that's worth 502 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: every nickel you know. Okay, So are they high maintenance 503 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: cars in your opinion? No, not really, it's changed the 504 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: oil service them. It's a it's a very different kind 505 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: of car in terms of comparison to a four or 506 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: forty six pack. But what isn't. One of the things 507 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna find is you're not leaning over the fender 508 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: to work on it anymore like you used to. Oh 509 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: my god, remember remember Saturday night back in the seventies, 510 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: you would you would go hit the local driving and 511 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: cruise night and then you blasted up the through Ay 512 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: or down the parkway, and when you got home Saturday morning, 513 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: you spent the morning leaning over the fender, playing with 514 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: the carburetor, tightening all the parts that fell off, making 515 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: sure the belts were good, making sure you didn't lose 516 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: any fluids. You know, these cars, you're gonna be doing well. 517 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: If you were on a test track, Dave. I'll say 518 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: it like this, if you were on a test track, 519 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you'd be doing it. You'd be doing a hundred and 520 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: twenty with the air conditioning on, the stereo blasting, one finger, 521 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: steering the car like it was nothing. And remember the 522 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: old Lang Orange speedways vaguely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 523 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: I did a lot of racing there. So why are 524 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: we having this conversation? The biggest, the big the biggest 525 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: conversation we should have is what color that's it? Yeah? 526 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: What color? Yeah? I had Yeah, getting the house paint 527 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: it was the biggest decision. Yeah, I just I don't 528 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: want to go through color squatcher. I want then get 529 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: what you want. I'm gonna end it here, Dave, because 530 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: I gotta go, but I'm gonna end it here. Get 531 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: what you want. Life is too short. One of the 532 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: great great things about cars, whether they're new or old, 533 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: they touch us at our base, they touch us inside, 534 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: they make us, They connect with us at some level. 535 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Everybody connects to their car. Some people are a little 536 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: denser than others. To some people, cars are just a nuisance. 537 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: But to those that are the officionados for the for 538 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: those that really understand this, microcosm of society, of time. 539 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: That slice of what that car is, it means a lot. 540 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: And trust me, when you go into the ground, my friend, 541 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: not to be morbid. You're not gonna sit there and say, well, 542 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I wish I had bought that car. You're gonna say 543 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did because I got to enjoy it. 544 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Daved be well, let us know what color you get 545 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, smack a gear for us. Zero 546 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: run any of the car doctor coming back right after this, 547 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back the car doctor. Let's uh, let's go over 548 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: to Marshall in Louisiana. And I don't want to talk 549 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: about God's getting involved in electric vehicles, Tom, I have 550 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: to tell you about story. So Marshall, how can I help? 551 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: What's going on? What's happening? We could go mirror image 552 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: story to your first discussion. Oh seven, g mc envoy. 553 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: This one's a d Nally five point three bloaded all 554 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: the bells and with vehicle made a nine seventy mile 555 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: trip from North Carolina to Louisiana flawless. That's the thirty 556 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: five days get back in it. Knew the battery would 557 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: be dead quick jump filed right up. Got about a 558 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: dozen miles boom stops. Okay, get it towed to the 559 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: local dealership, all right. They assessed the battery dead, swamp 560 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: a h Delco battery into it, which was about a 561 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: two hour time duration. Buyers, right up, okay, leave the dealership. 562 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: They closed the gates behind me. It was the end 563 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: of work day. Make it two miles two and a 564 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: half miles boom vehicle guys, all right. Eventually tell it 565 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: back there next morning, start again. Service manager and the 566 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: lead tech in the vehicle. They get about a quarter 567 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: mile past where I did the evening before. Vehicle guys, okay, 568 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: have a nice day. Uh. They swapped out the ignission 569 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: switch right there on the spot. The duration about two 570 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: hours time. Make it back to the dealership. All right. 571 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: From that point on, exactly mirror image of your discussion 572 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: last week. That vehicle ran shut off, brand shut off, 573 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: brand shut off. Uh, went through all the diagnostics, not 574 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: to you know, xing out all the various components that 575 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: it's not all right. That's uh, let's see that's Tuesday. 576 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: That's Wednesday, Thursday. We're going to swap the e c M. 577 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday evening they froze the e c M literally removed 578 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: it from the vehicle, put it in the freezer, put 579 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: it back in uh Thursday, tried it out, No, not 580 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: working all right, Get an e c M. Take it 581 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: for a ride. Service manager gets about twenty miles, makes 582 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: it back to the dealership, pauses, waits for the gates 583 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: to open to go into the shop area, gets the 584 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: accelerator dead right there on the spot. Okay. That brings 585 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: us to Friday. And the last determination was exactly as 586 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: your discussion and your diagnosis last week. The fuse block 587 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: that wonderful uh DELFI Electronics shield fuse block with those 588 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: pins underneath. As well, the dash actuated door broke all 589 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: communication with the computer, so I have no dash mens blowing. 590 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: That actually happened immediately after they swapped the battery lay 591 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Monday evening, just before closing debt. So that might be 592 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: that that might be to do it. They might have 593 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: to do a calibration for that. That might just need 594 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: to be Rezero. And I'll tell you what, Marshall. Marshall, 595 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: sit tight a minute. Let me pull over and take 596 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: this pause, and then we'll come back and finish. I'm 597 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: run an eating the car doctor with Marshall and Louisiana. 598 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: A great car story developing here. Don't go away. We're 599 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: both back right after this. Let's get back to Marshall 600 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: and Louisiana. Marshall, we got about two minutes, Babe, wrap 601 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: it up. Go ahead, what do you got? Yeah? Man, 602 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: all right, so there you go. Vehicle termination is blocked. 603 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Now that as far as that HVAC dash actuator that 604 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: was replaced four years ago. But there is no communication 605 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: in the diagnostics between the actuator and the computer. That's 606 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: completely good. Okay, so that's another diagnosis. But let's talk 607 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: real quick about the only thing, the only thing. I 608 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: don't like what they did, and I hate you know. 609 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: It's easy to sit here in this chair and critique somebody, 610 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: all right, but I always like to, you know. I 611 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: try to split the circuits up as much as I can. 612 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: And I think the first mistake they made was to 613 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: swap the ignition switch. First of all. I think even 614 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: the replacement GM Magnian S whitches are problematic, and they 615 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: have been for as long as I can remember, all right, 616 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: and you know we all know what new means. New 617 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: means never ever worked. So we're gonna take out a 618 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: potentially field tested part and put in this new part 619 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: that's got no problems with it, and to me GM magnisance, 620 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: which is at one of the highest failure rates right 621 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: out of the box, they're terrible. So you know that. 622 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: That being said, I'd look at power. I'd look at 623 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: the power side of the circuit. I'd go to the 624 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: ignition switch. That should be just like the O seven 625 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: envoy I worked on. Are gonna be two feeds coming 626 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: out of the ignition switch. One goes to the PCM, 627 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: one goes to the fuse box to feed the power 628 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: train control relay. That power train control relay feeds everything 629 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: that runs the vehicle, throttle body, O two injectors, coils. 630 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: It's the world. So to me, that ranks right up 631 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: there with the ignition switch in terms of priority and importance. 632 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I get what they're doing, but to me, 633 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: I'd rather test it. I'm sure you would have spent 634 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: the money for some diagnosis rather than having to go 635 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: through this pain. I would have sat there and looked 636 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: at feed coming out of feed up, coming out of 637 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: the ignition switch, feed going to the relay, ground control 638 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: from the relay and narrative down. It just would have 639 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: been faster, but listen, I'm glad it got solved. I'm 640 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: glad it worked for you, And listen, they did their best. 641 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: Now you gotta wonder what's gonna happen with electric cars 642 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: and how much more complicated they're gonna be. I had 643 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: to get that in there to everyone. I appreciate the 644 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: calls till the next time. Come on at any in 645 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: the car doctor reminding you all through mechanics aren't expensive, 646 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: they're priceless, say uh chish