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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, everybody, Good morning, good morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Arnie Spanier. We're in for the fellas, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Gargano and Jason fitz As. We're broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios here. As I said on this

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, third day of May, let me welcome in

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Speaker 2: my partner and former Palisades High School alum as well

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Speaker 2: as I am my buddy, Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 3: How you doing this morning, Jeff?

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Speaker 4: I am doing fabulous. It's nice to work with you again,

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Speaker 4: and a lot to talk about. You know, you got

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Speaker 4: Game sevens everywhere and NFL actually coming to appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: We realized like football soon. I'm pretty excited about that.

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Speaker 3: I know I did.

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Speaker 2: The difference between waiting for football to start backup seems

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Speaker 2: like it takes forever. First of all, are you a

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Speaker 2: morning guy? I know you said you're on your first

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Speaker 2: cup of coffee. I'm already on my third.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm probably more of a morning guy than

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Speaker 4: I am a night guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I sew people that are more of.

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Speaker 4: Just like to sleep, my sleep guy. So if it's

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Speaker 4: if it's nine to five, thirty six. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 4: If it's ten to six thirty, I'm fine with that too.

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Speaker 4: So I'm more of a sleep but we did get

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Speaker 4: I end up going to a minor league game last night.

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Speaker 4: We went to see the the Triple A team here,

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Speaker 4: which is uh the White Sox. They could use.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: A guy hit a tenth home run last night a

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Speaker 4: month tim Elko game sounds from used to play Mississippi,

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Speaker 4: and I look at the White Sox. I think to myself,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I kind of feel like they could

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Speaker 4: use that guy. But it was a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: on the fireworks night, so kids, kids had a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do the minor league thing.

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Speaker 2: Up here in Vermont, we have the Vermont Lake Monsters,

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Speaker 2: so they used to be single A.

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Speaker 3: Now there I don't even know what they are.

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Speaker 5: There are some.

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Speaker 2: Independent league, but it's fun to go to the games

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But I mentioned you and I

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Speaker 2: both went to Palisades High School, though I probably a

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Speaker 2: little bit before you, a lot before you in that one.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that was the one in the fires.

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Speaker 2: I think like about what fifty percent of the school

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Speaker 2: had some fire damage. And now they're using the old

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Speaker 2: Seers building down by the beach. But hopefully I have

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Speaker 2: the high school back up.

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Speaker 3: In a year or so.

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Speaker 2: Man all the way to Carolina from Palisades, but I

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Speaker 2: was reading all that. I see all the famous alumni

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Speaker 2: donating money and stuff, and it's good that they're working

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Speaker 2: on and getting trying to get them back up the code.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is still I think, rather shocking. I had

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Speaker 4: a friend who went to Los Angeles yesterday for the

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Speaker 4: first time actually, and he was commenting on he went

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Speaker 4: to lax and then had to go two thousand Oaks

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Speaker 4: and he was commenting like, oh, this takes ninety minutes.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, if if you're lucky day, and I was,

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Speaker 4: you know, I was telling him sort of like the

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Speaker 4: way that he was going to get there and what

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Speaker 4: he'd never been in Los Angeles. I was like, you

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Speaker 4: go to West l A. And then you go to

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Speaker 4: you might see fire damage and supping to pass. And

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Speaker 4: it's just still kind of shocking that it happened, because

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Speaker 4: you know, like you know, like life just sort of

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Speaker 4: goes on as it should and and you sort of

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Speaker 4: maybe forget about the damage that happened. I when I

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Speaker 4: to sort of tell them, like how bad it's going

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Speaker 4: to be. And and you know, there's you know, PC

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Speaker 4: is still closed, and so I have not been back.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to lost just one more a weekend, so

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Speaker 4: I'll probably try to take a trip up to the Palisades.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's, uh, it's it's still just I

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Speaker 4: can't believe it that happened the way it did, and

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Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, and but you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: It's hard, it's it's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the of those Facebook groups that say you

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Speaker 2: went to Palisades High School. Reconnected a lot with some

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Speaker 2: of my old high school pals, even though I did,

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'm football star.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, you went to the same high school

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Speaker 4: I did. Football is not like, uh, you know, the

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Speaker 4: most important thing in our high school. So that that

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Speaker 4: really didn't mean anything very very much. I think the

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Speaker 4: thing that's still like, it's it's it's just, you know,

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Speaker 4: I remember when the fire first started I text one

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Speaker 4: of my high school teammates and I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: like this is going to be bad and ended up

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Speaker 4: being obviously, as we know, be bad is of where

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Speaker 4: terrain there. And I think that, like, it's still sort

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Speaker 4: of just frustrates me the way people talk about it,

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Speaker 4: you know, and and what actually happened was not as

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Speaker 4: oh no as conspiracy theories people wanted to be. Essentially,

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Speaker 4: it's like the most frustrated part still it's like we

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Speaker 4: didn't have to talk about it the way we did,

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Speaker 4: and still people chose to go that direction instead of

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Speaker 4: just talking about what actually happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a great community. We'll have a little fun.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of the famous alum from our

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Speaker 2: high school. And there's a list a lot like you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't believe. You're not even what you and your brother,

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Speaker 2: not even the best football players from Palisades High School

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Speaker 2: all that Mitch.

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Speaker 4: Might be though, I don't think there's better football players.

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Speaker 3: Than we had a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We had a quarterback that played for Washington and for

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Speaker 2: the Raiders in the Super Bowl up Jay Schrader.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember, Yeah, yeah, my brother

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Speaker 4: was a four time All Pro though I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I don't even had that good But that's like on

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Speaker 4: the list of famous people that went to our high school,

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Speaker 4: he's like eleventh, so twenty fifth. I mean, it depends

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Speaker 4: on what your your rankings are for most famous. But

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Speaker 4: we're a coach coaching last night in the NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yes it was an alum and Steve.

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Speaker 3: Kerr Academy Award winning actor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. We the owner of my favorite basketball team that

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Speaker 4: could make out of the first round in Jeanie Buss. Ye.

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Speaker 4: So we've got plenty of plenty of famous people.

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Speaker 5: Bye.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you know, I could have been part

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Speaker 2: owner of the Lakers since I went to school with

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Speaker 2: Genie and I you know, I was a good looking guy, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to brag or anything, and I could

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Speaker 2: have just went up to Genie and said, Hey, Genie,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Westwood this weekend Adam Mallhouse is playing

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Speaker 2: and then we could go hang out at the Taco

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Speaker 2: Bell afterwards. She would have fallen in love with me,

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Speaker 2: would have gotten married, and I would have been half owner.

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Speaker 4: By now you did you know her in high school?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was.

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Speaker 2: Actually I was on the basketball team. She was the

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Speaker 2: basketball manager. She was she was learning to take over

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Speaker 2: for her father. Her father was just buying the team

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Speaker 2: back then, and she was learning to you know, run

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Speaker 2: the office and for him back then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously I watch you winning time, like

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Speaker 4: I think we all did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how accurate of a time that that

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Speaker 4: whole thing was, but that's what you know. I think

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Speaker 4: she was much older in the show than she wasn't

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Speaker 4: real life. I think it was that show the way

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Speaker 4: the show to portrayed her. But yeah, so look, Pally,

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Speaker 4: I know there's you know, Dave Roberts is involved, and

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Speaker 4: Joe Torre is helping out, and I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: like you had to move a whole high school, guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of wild that that they found

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Speaker 4: the place to move a whole three thousand person high

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is awesome, But we'll have a little fun with that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be here for the next three hours as

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Speaker 2: we get right into it, because you know, I want

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Speaker 2: to start with the hints kind of wrapping things up.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers lost a couple of nights ago, They're eliminated

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Speaker 2: four games to one. Jeff, and I wanted to start

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Speaker 2: with Lebron. You saw the press conference, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, man, you just shake your head sometimes, the

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Speaker 2: self serving attitude. They just got eliminated four games to one.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like there's just no urgency. But I

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Speaker 2: do want to start with Lebron. I have like a

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Speaker 2: million questions. Will he retire, Should he retire? Should the

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Speaker 2: Lakers want to keep him? Will they keep them? Will

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Speaker 2: they go in a new direction? So let's let's start

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Speaker 2: with the simple one. Will he retire? Should he retire?

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Speaker 2: He's not going to retire, and he probably shouldn't retire.

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Speaker 2: Even at forty years old, he's still putting up major

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Speaker 2: numbers out there. Look, Lucas gonna take over, there's no

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Speaker 2: doubt about that. But Lebron needs to go ahead and

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Speaker 2: learn to take a backseat to Luca. They need a third,

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Speaker 2: whether Jiannis or somebody else. But no, he wouldn't retire

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Speaker 2: until he announced it, so he could have a goodbye

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Speaker 2: and all the people get say goodbye to him, and

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Speaker 2: all the cities could have a you know, give him

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Speaker 2: it on the board and TV and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But no, he he shouldn't retire. And I think he's

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Speaker 2: still got probably another two more good years in.

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Speaker 3: Him before he should probably call it quits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the old Derek Jeter retirement tour, the retirement tour. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's absolutely gonna do that. Look, I am a Lakers fan.

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Speaker 4: I have liked Lebron his entire career, whether he was

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Speaker 4: the Cats. I always thought he got a little too

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Speaker 4: much great for the you know, the decision, you know,

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Speaker 4: that whole process. And I get when people don't like him,

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Speaker 4: you know, but I just there are things that are

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Speaker 4: hard to defend about his press conferences and some of

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Speaker 4: the things he says, and this feels like one of them,

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Speaker 4: right where two things. One is the report about his

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Speaker 4: knee injury after the game, Like it seems like it's legitimate,

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Speaker 4: but can you wait like a week to tell us that,

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Speaker 4: Like after every time they lose, it's like, oh, you

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Speaker 4: have a finger, wrist and knee injury. It's like just

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Speaker 4: can you wait like seven days, like five business days

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Speaker 4: to tell us that you hurt?

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Speaker 3: Everybody had an injury, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean, Like, we just don't care. I

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Speaker 4: don't care. Just win the basketball game, you know, I

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Speaker 4: just I just do not care. And I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of Lakers fans, any fans, are just like buddy,

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Speaker 4: we okay, like we we all play a little hurts

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Speaker 4: sometimes we all like just it's it's it's okay. And

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Speaker 4: you know, and look, we're gonna have to have months

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Speaker 4: and months and months of will he retire? Will he

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Speaker 4: not retire? Look to me, this is just an antic

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Speaker 4: to get more players to Los Angeles. Look, clearly, Luca

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Speaker 4: So it's the Lakers just need better players around Lebron,

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Speaker 3: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to say is shame on us,

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Speaker 3: We gave Minnesota no credit whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: And then Anthony Edwards walking around outside and doing his

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Speaker 4: I wonder so when you go to I still call

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Speaker 4: because why not. I liked it as well. Look, you win,

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Speaker 4: Good for him there. Look Minnesota did they won the

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Speaker 4: they got their different ways some ways. The Lakers were

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Speaker 4: So you're absolutely right. They deserve a ton of credit

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Speaker 4: They should be making those plays too, Like they what's

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Speaker 2: I want to continue on the Lakers. I also want

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Speaker 2: Before we get to break, I'm just going to tell

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Speaker 2: I was working in Los Angeles. Jeff, this is the

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Speaker 2: big I got so much trouble for this. I mean this,

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Speaker 3: It was a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Against Portland, and everybody that was coming to the game

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Speaker 2: I'm behind a glass partition where I think a Starbucks

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Speaker 3: So I was kidding around, and I went.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Staples. Game six Lakers Portland deemed out today.

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Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant broken leg. Oh geez, I could have started

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Speaker 3: I mean, I could have started a riot. I was

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Speaker 2: I saw people's faces, Like I said, Martians were coming

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Speaker 2: like like, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know, they were running for the hills. I don't know

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Speaker 2: My boss called me up, and I really can't tell

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Speaker 3: Stop. You can't do that.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers were furious, to be sure, furious and months

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Speaker 2: It was pretty funny. I had a good time, but

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Speaker 3: Something I probably shouldn't have said.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff Schwartz, Arnie spat Here, we're sitting in

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Speaker 2: for the Fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz will come back.

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Speaker 2: I got more waker stuff to get to, and what

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Speaker 2: All right, Good morning, everybody, Jeff Schwartzarny Spanier, We're in

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Speaker 2: for the guys. Action for the Fellas, Anthony Gargano and

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Speaker 2: Jason Fits on a Saturday morning, third day of may

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Speaker 2: plenty going on a lot of stories out there, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: real quick, because we're gonna continue more on the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I just want you to know one thing. I remember

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Speaker 3: And she goes, no, No, he's saving his money for

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Speaker 2: But he was going to buy the Indiana Pacers, and

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Speaker 2: if he's anything short, I guarantee his money. And of

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Speaker 2: So they said, well, Donald, if you're going to guarantee

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 4: you know, the the the the end of that story.

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00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 4: But that's what used to be. Owners you know, got

436
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 4: teams and you're like, I don't know if they have

437
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: the money to get them.

438
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: Players would be fighting for every dollar and they and

439
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: the owners would be putting up a fight on that.

440
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: I want to get to Lebron James. I thought this

441
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 2: was absolutely crazy. When Lebron James said it's not his

442
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: job to convince Luka Doncic to sign with the Lakers

443
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: and stay with the Lakers, he goes, you know, obviously

444
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Luca's very young. When is he twenty six or something

445
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: like that, Lebron is forty, because it's not his job.

446
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: At first, that came across as sour grapes. Jeff, I'm like, wow,

447
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: what kind of attitude is that? You know you're gonna

448
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: retire the next year or two or three at most,

449
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: why not help bring in a new generation. It's gonna

450
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: be Luca's team. Pretty much maybe from this point on

451
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: moving forward, and then I'm saying, is it really his job?

452
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: I mean, if I told you you're getting fired, Jeffens

453
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: or you know you're in the NFL and somebody's coming

454
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: to take your job, can you go ahead and mentor him,

455
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: and then once he's come up to speed, we're gonna

456
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: cut you. And though that's really not quite the situation

457
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: in this one, because you know, nobody's cutting Lebron, but

458
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: he is getting to the end of his career.

459
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 3: Do you find that sour grapes what he said, it's

460
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: not his.

461
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Job to recruit Luca comes across that way, doesn't other one.

462
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 4: I guess I need to hear the audio of those

463
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 4: sort of how that that tone sounded. But I mean, look,

464
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 4: it's it's it's not his job, right, I mean, his

465
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: job is to prepare to play the season and and

466
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 4: do that, and the job of the front office is

467
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: to make sure that Luca comes back. So I understand that.

468
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not a general manager, but you would

469
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: think because of the relationship he has and maybe the

470
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: rightship he has with the team is not we think

471
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 4: it is, which is certainly fair to wonder, right, and

472
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: that could be a big part of this is we

473
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 4: think the lightship with the team is this and it's

474
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 4: actually not. But yeah, I mean you would think that

475
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 4: if he enjoyed playing for the Lakers in Los Angeles,

476
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: he would try to sell Luca on the vision that,

477
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 4: you know, for the future in Los Angeles. Look, the

478
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 4: Lakers did not sign Luca to let him walk. I'll

479
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 4: promise that now. Of course, maybe Luca didn't doesn't like

480
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: the situation in Los Angeles. I think it's fair though,

481
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: for everyone just to see how it goes with a

482
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: full off season, right. I mean, he was trading the

483
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: middle of the season off an injury. Very clearly Luca

484
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 4: felt a certain way about it, right, Like, you know,

485
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 4: it's just he was shocked by this. It's been hard

486
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: for him to process. I think the Mavericks decided to

487
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: look as player has been. There's always a moment in

488
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: your career when you have the first like, oh, this

489
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: is a business like a lot of us. You know,

490
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: you get you're on a rookie contract and you think

491
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 4: everything is great, everyone loves you and all, and then

492
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: you have that that business moment. And Luca had his

493
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: first business moment, right, and it takes some time to

494
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: process those emotions. And I think we're going to see

495
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: a different player next year, with a full off season

496
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: to sort of understand the business of it and prepare

497
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: to play a little differently as a Laker could.

498
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, I used to think that

499
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: maybe and the this is kind of you know, maybe

500
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: this is a crazy scenario, but everything goes in the NBA.

501
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: What happens if Lebron doesn't retire, but he doesn't play

502
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: his final years for the Lakers. Suppose he goes to

503
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: the NBA and says, I want to own that team

504
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. I want to be player and owner,

505
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: and I want my two kids to play with me

506
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: for a couple of games. And is younger kid Bryce

507
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: I think that's his name. Yeah, yeah, it will be

508
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: available in.

509
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six for the NBA.

510
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Is that a possibility that he'll own the team, play

511
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: and play with his two kids or that's just craziness

512
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: out there.

513
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's certainly and it's possible. I just

514
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: don't understand why he will leave Los Angeles. I mean

515
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 4: I get in theory, right, yeah, ownership, but look, there

516
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: comes a point in your career where you just become

517
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: comfortable with your situation. And I would imagine that Lebron

518
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: probably feels comfortable in Los Angeles. He's been there many

519
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: years now, He's wanted to live in Los Angeles and

520
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 4: he's been there, and you know, obviously for business purposes,

521
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: it just feels like in this point in his career

522
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: he's gonna feel very comfortable just with his routine in

523
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. Is he gonna leave that routine for two

524
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 4: years to play somewhere else? I I just don't see that.

525
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: Just for ownership though, for the Vegas team.

526
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I guess, But I it doesn't feel

527
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 4: like in the end, like do you really want to

528
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: just again, like do you want do you want your

529
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: career to just change to own to own the tea?

530
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: You can own a team, I guess anytime. It's my

531
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 4: sort of my point about that.

532
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might well it might be. You know, they

533
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: may say, Okay, we're opening a team.

534
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: Now, so who's first up? Who's gonna want to come?

535
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 4: I bet you other?

536
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: I bet he's trying to get the money now for

537
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: that team in a couple of years, you know what

538
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean.

539
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to put all that together.

540
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 4: Well, he's not gonna be able to own the team

541
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: out right, Like that's just don't know that. So he'll

542
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: be part of a business group that owns the team.

543
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 4: So is he even gonna be like the like, what

544
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: what type of owner is he? It's like Magic Johnson

545
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: owns a lot of you know, quote unquote sports teams.

546
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: He doesn't do a lot of the owner. He's just

547
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: he's a figurehead, right, yeah, And that feels like that

548
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 4: could be what Lebron would be for some of this

549
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 4: ownership options.

550
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: Right, Jeff Schwartz, Ny Span, you're in for the guys,

551
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz By the way, you get

552
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: ahold of us on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz, I'm at

553
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Stinking Genius one. Yes, I still call it Twitter out there.

554
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: I want to get to one of my favorite topics.

555
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: So everybody talks about this in LA and everybody with

556
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: different views on this, and that's JJ Reddick, the head

557
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: coach of the Lakers. First of all, I find them

558
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: to be quite nasty on some of these press conferences.

559
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just comes across that he's battling

560
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: with the media. But a lot of coaches are like that,

561
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: and it's not just him. We've seen Popovich and we'll

562
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: get to him later on too, what he does on

563
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: those halftime or those interviews between a quarters, and how

564
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: nasty he could be. Steve kerr One said, I would

565
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: never talk to another person the way I talked to referees.

566
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: I would never be that nasty to somebody in real

567
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: life the way I am to referees out there. For

568
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: first things first, and you played in the NFL, so

569
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: you've probably dealt with some lack of better words, mean

570
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: coaches out there. Do you have to be so mean

571
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: and nasty? And understand maybe to the players, but what

572
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: about to the media. And it's constant too over and

573
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: over again, and the media battling back, and the media

574
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: could be nasty also.

575
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: Jeff Up.

576
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: Not to say they're totally to be blamed to this,

577
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: but it seems like the media and JJ Reddick, I mean,

578
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: they're just they're every press conference. You just don't know

579
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: who's gonna be attacking who out there, you know.

580
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean, look, obviously you would want I think your

581
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: coach told be a little bit, you know, less nasty

582
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: with the media. As you put it, But obviously there's

583
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: back and forth, and it's a long season and there's

584
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: gonna be I think heated moments between those two. You know,

585
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: I saw some you know of the obviously we've all

586
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: seen the you know, the takes of of JJ Redding

587
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 4: the last couple of days, and part of that is

588
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 4: obviously his interactions with the media. And my only thing is, like,

589
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, can we give him more than like

590
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: a year before we decide, Yeah, if he's a good

591
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: or bad coach. Some coaches get fired after a year.

592
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: Jeff correct, No, that's too early in my opinion. Like,

593
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: I think he did a fine job this season. He

594
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: does need to learn, I think, to be less combative

595
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: with the media. You you never want, I think, to

596
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 4: have someone who is combative with the media as a coach,

597
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: because you want there to be that working relationship. You know,

598
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: the media covers you every day, and you want to

599
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: have I think a little bit of professionals in there.

600
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: But you know, the coaches that have been more likely

601
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: to feel a certain way about the media, you sort

602
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: of have to earn the right to do that by winning.

603
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: I mean, like you know, we've seen We'll talk about

604
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: pop in a second. But you know, Bill Belichick obviously

605
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: famously just sort of corner with the media. You don't

606
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: have to earn that right. And you know Reddick obviously

607
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: hasn't earned that right yet. He he hasn't been good

608
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: enough to warrant you know, any sort of you know,

609
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: leeway with the media there. So I think that's part

610
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: of it too, is like, dude, like you haven't earned

611
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: the right to be this.

612
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: Was head Jeff when when he didn't substitute in the

613
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: second half of one of the playoff games?

614
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: Was he in overs that or what?

615
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 4: Look? Man? Probably? But but I have this right, It's

616
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: his first year as a head coach, right, I'm not

617
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: crazy there. Okay, you know if this was football, we

618
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: would all say like essentially like oh yeah, inexperienced. I

619
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: mean we sort of accept that. But for some reason

620
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: this is like not accepted. Here. He he made a

621
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: calculated decision. It didn't work. But you understand to me,

622
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: it's funny because the game was a game what was

623
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: the the game four? When the no, it was game five,

624
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: when the when the Mavericks, I mean the Nuggets hit

625
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: the hit the Gordon dunk right right? Those Game five?

626
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: Remember I think it was. I think it was Game five.

627
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: The Nuggets did the exact same thing but won the game.

628
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: Where they played they they played, you know, they ended

629
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: up playing Yolkis the entire second half of the game.

630
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: He did not get his typical break in the third quarter,

631
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: and they won the game. And they won the game

632
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: because they built a twenty point lead and survived at

633
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: the end. The Clippers were going to tear them apart

634
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: in overtime, like I had my I was watching the

635
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: game live, I had my sports wagering app open, ready

636
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: to wager in the Clippers as soon as the number

637
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: hit for overtime, like the Clippers were going to win

638
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: the game in overtime. The Nuggets were exhausted, but they

639
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: won the game, so it was a smart move to

640
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: keep him in. Well, the Lakers lost the game, and

641
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: it was it was a dumb move, like it just

642
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: depends on the results, right, Like the process. I get

643
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: the process. The process was, we have to win this game.

644
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: We have an extra day off, I'm going to roll

645
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: and they had a seven point league with three minutes left,

646
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: Like it was working until it didn't work anymore. So

647
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm fine with the process. I think it just didn't work,

648
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: and he won't learn as a coach next time in

649
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: that situation to probably just play play all the guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned that though, because

651
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this right now. I didn't send this over,

652
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: but I saw the statistic the Lakers in the playoffs.

653
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Speaker 2: With Lebron on the floor, they were minus forty one.

654
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: With Lebron off the floor, they were a plus eight.

655
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Speaker 2: Do you put much of those plus minus stats to

656
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're saying that the Lakers are much better

657
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: without Lebron. I don't believe that for a second. But

658
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's not all on the coach. You gotta

659
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: look at the players. Luca took a bad shot that

660
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: he was complaining didn't get back on defense. A lot

661
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: goes on the players too in that situation, you know, Jeff, and.

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Speaker 4: The plus minus stuff just feels like it was mostly

663
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Speaker 4: just when obviously, you know, the game kind of handled

664
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Speaker 4: in the game. I'm unconcerned by those things in my opinion,

665
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Speaker 4: So no, it doesn't. It doesn't concern me. The plus

666
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Speaker 4: minus that, I mean, the end of the game is

667
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Speaker 4: most of the plus minus, right, that's what the ron

668
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: is playing no, yeah, and you're.

669
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Speaker 3: Right about that.

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Speaker 2: And and look, everybody rips on Lebron saying he doesn't

671
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: have the clutch gene, and you know, he certainly didn't

672
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: put up a lot of points in the fourth quarter.

673
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: And I understand that. I mean, that's when he They

674
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: need him to shine. They need him and Luca to shine. Jeffer,

675
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: we're coming up in the break. When we get back,

676
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: everybody talks about how Luca has to get into shape.

677
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: Luca's got to be in the shape.

678
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick brought up, you know, we have players that

679
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: need to get into shape. Is Joker in shape? I

680
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: didn't know that is Is he in shape? But he's

681
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: won an NBA championship. Shack certainly wasn't in shape. He

682
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: won an NBA championship. So is that just a bunch

683
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: of hu hah? Well, get into that when we get back.

684
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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Arnie Spanier in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano

685
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: and Jason fitz right here on Fox Sports or Radio.

686
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Speaker 2: All right, I want to remind everybody to be sure

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695
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Speaker 2: Spanier in for the Fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz

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Speaker 2: our One just flying.

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Speaker 3: By real quick. Jeff.

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Speaker 2: I want to know, because you're a longtime watcher of

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Speaker 2: the NBA, do you like that they're letting them play

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Speaker 2: physical back like in the old days, like what the

701
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Speaker 2: eighties and the old Nicks in Detroit.

702
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Speaker 3: I like it. I enjoy it.

703
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: I know it's wearing down on some of the players

704
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Speaker 2: and they're getting hurt.

705
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're letting too much go to be honest with you,

706
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Speaker 3: but I do like the fit is to go play.

707
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Because you start calling the fouls, then we're turning it

708
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: into a free throw contest, and that's really the last

709
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: thing we want to see.

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Speaker 3: I like that they're letting it get physical a little bit.

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

712
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Speaker 4: I think all we want is consistency defficiating.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to call it physical, call it physical.

715
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 4: If you want to call it more wide open, call

716
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: it more wide open. So we want two things, right,

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00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: We want consistent and I think we want our stars

718
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: to play right. So you know, we don't want to

719
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: start if you're gonna go super, we're gonna call every foul.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to stars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, But so there's a fine line. I think as

723
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: long as you're consistent the entire series.

724
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: Which is a better way, TICKI tech or let it

725
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: go like this crazy, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think more people probably want offense more

727
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: wide open, but again, we don't want offense, you know,

728
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: with the fouls, So both things, it goes both ways.

729
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: Right where we we want I think we want the middle,

730
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 4: which is kind of a cop out answer. We like

731
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: the middle right, would like I think a situation where

732
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: you know, it's a fun game to watch, but not

733
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: one where every fouls called, uh, and not one where

734
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: it's so physical you can't even watch the game. So

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Speaker 4: I think sort of both apply there. And I've been

736
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: fine with it. I haven't really been one and thought like,

737
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: hey man, more fouls need to be called. I'm okay

738
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: personally with them, letting you know, let him play a

739
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: little bit there.

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Speaker 2: Well, they a long time ago. I think when I

741
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: was doing radio in Phoenix, Arizona. We're going back twenty

742
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: five years ago or whatever. I remember the NBA and

743
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: probably a lot of people don't know this. The NBA

744
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: is going to use one preseason game and I think

745
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: it was involving the Suns. That's why I remember it

746
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: so vividly, where they were going to call it a

747
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: little tighter, you know, hand checks and see how the

748
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: way the game came out, and they told the revs,

749
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, call this a little tight. Let's see if

750
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: basketball is better if they you know, back off, we'll

751
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: have more offense. Was people that want to pick up

752
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: fouls so they won't hand check. They went to the

753
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: line like eighty to ninety times in the game.

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00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: It was a.

755
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: Dis The NBA said, well, now we know, well that's

756
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: gonna work out.

757
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: Let's just go back to regular.

758
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: So it's it's really tough to call it so so

759
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: strict with the hand checks and stuff like that.

760
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Speaker 3: You have to let it go.

761
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Speaker 2: Back in the day, Jeff, sometimes they would you know,

762
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Speaker 2: you can't hand check, and they would call that.

763
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Speaker 3: But then it got to the point where hands part of.

764
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: The ball, everything goes and you know, no blood, no

765
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: foul and you know Bill Ambier with the permanent black

766
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: high and stuff like that.

767
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Speaker 3: Those were the days, Jeff, you know what I mean,

768
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 3: those were the good old days.

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Speaker 4: I think I think we want in the middle ground.

770
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: I think I think it's it's silly to want a

771
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: game to be so physical that players can't get shots off.

772
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: And and it's you know, it's in the you know,

773
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: the high nineties, and I think we would like a

774
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: game where, you know, it's not the opposite where a team,

775
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, has a bazillion foul shots. There's a

776
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: fine line I think between both of those. But also

777
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 4: to like, look, the later series gets, the more tight

778
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 4: teams are gonna be, and so you're going to see

779
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 4: more I think, more of this where games are lower scoring.

780
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: With two game sevens coming up there, they're totally these games.

781
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: I think it's two oh four and two oh two,

782
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: like those are low scoring. It just it's gonna be

783
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: lower scoring a season goes on, because guys get a

784
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: little tighter, the role players stop playing as well. In

785
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: these tight moments, the stars have to pick it up,

786
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: and so you just generally see tighter game tighter games.

787
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: No, And you're right about that, and that's what we

788
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: want to see. At least we're having a couple of

789
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Game sevens in the NBA. I was thinking we weren't

790
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: even gonna get any in the first round. At least

791
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna get a couple of those. So I'm excited

792
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: to get to get to that. My knicks are gonna

793
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: be taken on Boston. We'll get more into that in round.

794
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: In the next hour. I just wanted to ask you

795
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: about Lukup and getting into shape. I think it's kind

796
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: of crazy that you could play, let's say a forty

797
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: minute game. I know it's forty eight, but let's say

798
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: you play forty of the minutes or thirty five to

799
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: forty of the minutes night in and night out. You've

800
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: got practice and you still have I don't know, baby

801
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: fat or a little bit around the stomach. Are we

802
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: making too much of his physical about him in shape?

803
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: How much do you have to eat to keep up

804
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: that shape after you're playing so much basketball and exercising

805
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: so much.

806
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: You know, the the A lot of the European players,

807
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think none of them have six packs

808
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: like they like like they just like it's just what

809
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: they're they're bail. I don't the thing about Luca we

810
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: watched we all watched him last year. We we saw

811
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 4: him drag a team to the NBA Finals by playing

812
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: well at the end of games. We know we can

813
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: do it this year. Maybe he spent the off season

814
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: partying too much.

815
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: We bought it up in the press conference and something.

816
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: He needs to get in better shape.

817
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: That's fair to say. But it's not like he was.

818
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: He's that far away from being in playoff shape. Like

819
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: it's very It's just, hey man, we spend a lot

820
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: more time in the gymnos off season. It's not like

821
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to stop.

822
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Speaker 3: In the shape. You know, It's not like he's in

823
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: great shape.

824
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: He's not a model, right, You can be in good

825
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: shape and not be a supermodel looking like body obviously

826
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: doesn't isn't wear down the end of games.

827
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not taking his shirt off any time

828
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: in public.

829
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Speaker 4: A lot of the two. I think he just has

830
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: to do with better defense. I mean, there's look signs

831
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: that were in better shape, and I think part of

832
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: it is defense and the end of games. Even before

833
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: the postseason, Lucas would score a ton of points in

834
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: the first quarter and they just not have the same

835
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: points horn ability the end of games. That's all that

836
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: that I think we're saying here.

837
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Speaker 2: No, and you're right about that. And we'll see how

838
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: he comes into shape next year. I'm always curious about

839
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: that and how it plays out and what the Lakers

840
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: moves are gonna be. We'll see how we're going to

841
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: get to Giannis. Also, that's going to be the big

842
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: offseason move there. Where's Johanna's gonna go?

843
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff, Yeah, I mean, look, obviously Joannis and uh

844
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: and you know, uh and and Luca will be fun. Yeah,

845
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: I feel that feels nearly impossible, but it would be interesting.

846
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: It'd be great.

847
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Right our one of the books just flew on by.

848
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: We're gonna shift gears a little bit. We've got some

849
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: NFL stuff to get to the Sanders situation, and we're

850
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: not talking about shaduor we're talking about Shiloh.

851
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: We'll get to that.

852
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: All that's coming up next year on Fox Sports or Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, everybody, Good morning, good morning, Jeff Schwartz,

855
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Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier. We're in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and

856
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz on this Saturday morning, third day of May.

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00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Hour one just flew on by. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: of football to get into. But as I brought this

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Speaker 2: up an hour number one, Jeff and I both went

860
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: to the same high school, just at different times. I

861
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: am just slightly older than Jeff. I mean we look

862
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: like the same age, but I am just slightly older

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Speaker 2: than my buddy Jeff Schwartz. Here Jeff, I was looking

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Speaker 2: at famous alum and there it is Mitchell Schwartz, Jeff

865
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: have Schwartz, No Arnie Spaniards. So I used to be

866
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: on the famous alarm. But as more and more people

867
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: became famous. By the way, did any famous people go

868
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: to school when you guys went to school? And with

869
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: me it was of course Steve Kerr, Genie Boss. We

870
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: had a lot of volleyball players that went on to

871
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: get gold medals and played for Team USA, Penelope and Miller,

872
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: who was an actress.

873
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: You may have heard of her.

874
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: So we had a lot of people when I went

875
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: down there to school. Any of them were famous when

876
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: when you were there, or you know we're going to

877
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: be famous.

878
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I have looked. I've looked before

879
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: at the list of famous alam. I mean, I think

880
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: there were some there at the time, but I don't remember.

881
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: You don't really remember them.

882
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: The lmfal guys, I think we're there at the same

883
00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: time as me, But I don't remember much of of

884
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: you know, many famous people. I mean it just I

885
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: don't know. I wasn't cool and I don't know. I

886
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: wasn't cool, Like, I wasn't a cool kid. I didn't

887
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: hang out with like cool people. I just had my

888
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: little group of people. I played sports. I didn't go

889
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: to parties and hang out.

890
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's a funny story, you like.

891
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: Jeff jj Abrams, the director, the screenwriter of the Star

892
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Wars guy went to Palisades High School. And do you

893
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: remember an English teacher by the name of Rose Gilbert.

894
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she was taught for Sam Gilbert.

895
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Sam Gilbert's wife who used to was tied in

896
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: with UCLA. I don't know if you know this, but

897
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: JJ Abrams took her class and Rose Gilbert had these big,

898
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: big glasses, you know, the round glasses.

899
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: And that's how he came up.

900
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: With one of the characters in Star Wars was because

901
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: of the way Rose Gilbert is. This English teacher looked.

902
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that, but it's if

903
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: you put in Rose Gilbert and Star Wars, you'll see

904
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: the character that was created because of her big round

905
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: glasses out there.

906
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty funny.

907
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: You know, Wow, you actually such a Rosey Gilbert Star Wars.

908
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: That's that's incredible. Yeah. So, yeah, she taught English at

909
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: Pally and very a lot of it. She actually paid for.

910
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: We have like a full Olympic swimming pool at school,

911
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 4: and her donation to the school. Sam Gilbert very famously,

912
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: you know, you know he basically was was n I

913
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 4: L before it was you know, there's rumors. It's all rumors,

914
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: right somehow, somehow, you see, I got every best player

915
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: for fifteen years in a row undertood and winning it helps,

916
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: of course, but you know, they got every best player.

917
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: They all had nice stuff, all had nice cars and

918
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: lived in nice apartments in Westwood, and they all had

919
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: nice stuff, which of course I'm I'm pro paying the players.

920
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: So that's they were able to do that while they

921
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: were in college. But yeah, so I don't know that

922
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: I'm to see right now. Yeah, that's that's pretty funny. Yeah, look,

923
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: I don't you know I I don't remember. Man, I

924
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: look at the list right now.

925
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: None of them are crazy.

926
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: Are our age? I mean, were what about.

927
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Will I am? Isn't he your age? Or no?

928
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: No, I haven't graduated Pallly in ninety three. I graduated

929
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: in oh oh.

930
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: Three oh four.

931
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: I graduated four wow.

932
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

933
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: But part of it two is like I'm I turned

934
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: I turned thirty nine this year. A lot of people

935
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: aren't really famous by thirty nine. Like in the list

936
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: of people that are on the line, a lot of

937
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: them are get famous, you know, a little later in life. Yes,

938
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: so they would be I don't think on this list

939
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 4: quite quite yet. But yeah, I mean there's there's a

940
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: lot of uh yeah.

941
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: They The reason why Forrest Whitaker's famous, the actor is

942
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: they filmed Fast Times at Ridgemont High at our high school.

943
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: And I remember this because they I guess the story

944
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: was they went up to Forest and said, hey, would

945
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: would you like to be in the movie? And He's like,

946
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: come on, dude, look at me. I got what I

947
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: or what there? I'm not the best looking guy. They're

948
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: go like, what are you doing after high school? Because

949
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to UCLA to play football. And I think

950
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: Jay Strader, our quarterback, was also going to UCLA and

951
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: they go, well, we could pay you, you know, I

952
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: don't know how much it was back then, ten thousand

953
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: or twenty thousand.

954
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I'll take that, you know.

955
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: So he came up with a character you'll see the

956
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: p on his letterman's jacket for Palisades High School.

957
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: He did it, and he said to them, hey, I

958
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: think I could do this.

959
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: Acting stuff for a little bit if you got any

960
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: more things. And I think what turned around his career

961
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: is at OPRAH put him in what the color purple

962
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: or something like that, and his career really took off.

963
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: And now look at him now, he's just phenomenal.

964
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: He's just an all time Academy Award winning actor and

965
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: funny comes from Palisades High School. So I love looking

966
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: at and stuff like that and seeing where the people

967
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: are now and you know how they came through and

968
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: what they were like in high school and stuff like that.

969
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: So good for him.

970
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Jeff, Let's get to some football, my friends, because everybody

971
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: was talking about Sanders. It was chadeur Sanders and what's

972
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: he going to do and how he was taking mccleveland

973
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: just summ that up. What did you think about him

974
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: going in the fifth round? Did it humble him?

975
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: Do you think?

976
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: Uh?

977
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: And will he make the team?

978
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: And I saw something like in the last twenty five years,

979
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: there's only been two quarterbacks picked in the first round

980
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: that didn't start sometime during their first year. Is he

981
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: going to start? How's it going to work out for him?

982
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: A lot of questions about what's going to happen that

983
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: should and I know that he's I don't I don't

984
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: know the exact wording, but that he's tied into a

985
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Canadian Football League team now just in case he wants

986
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: to go play up in the Canadian League.

987
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: So what do you think is gonna happen to Shadu Sanders?

988
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: There's as much chance of me playing the NFL again

989
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: as there is for him to play Canadian Football League.

990
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 4: So it's not gonna happen.

991
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: Right.

992
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: Where do you want to start with this? Because there's

993
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: so many different ways to go.

994
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: I just what how's it going to play out for him?

995
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: Is he going to make the team? Is he going

996
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: to start? And what'd you think of him going in.

997
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: The fifth round?

998
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's start the end there. Right now, we've

999
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: had a week to process this, and obviously we don't

1000
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: have the information that the NFL insiders have and worked

1001
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: as sort of repeating things that we've been told, right,

1002
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: a lot a lot of it, yeah, yeah, and and whatnot.

1003
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: So very clearly the Sanders team thought that he was

1004
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: going to be a top quarterback taking in the draft,

1005
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: not campboard, but certainly number two right for right, and

1006
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: they approached the process with that in mind. And you know,

1007
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: it's kind of a life lesson, I think, just to

1008
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: maybe always approach anything with your best foot forward and

1009
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: not assume things are going to happen. Right, There's a

1010
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: lot a lot of assumptions were made. And the one

1011
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: thing that that I that I have a question about.

1012
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: I have a couple of them, but one is like, so,

1013
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: Dianon Sanders knows people in the NFL. He worked in

1014
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: the media, and no one just like privately was like, hey, man,

1015
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 4: here's what I'm hearing. Like, no no one just called

1016
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: him up.

1017
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a great point.

1018
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: Like, no one, no one just sort of was honest

1019
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: with him, because look, very clearly they were sort of

1020
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: even even in sort of the pre draft process. Just

1021
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: from the media side. Okay, there's two camps of sort

1022
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: of draft people, right. There is the camp of forward

1023
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: facing television people that talk about the draft, right, and

1024
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: a lot of those people were much higher on Sanders

1025
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: than others, right. And I think that to do with

1026
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: the backlash you receive if you say anything bad about

1027
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: about Sanders or.

1028
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: Colorado, because I agree, like, you know, there.

1029
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: Was I've covered Colorado for years, I did packtwe of radio,

1030
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: and anything anything negative you said about Colorado was just

1031
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: amplified so much more on social media. You're this and that.

1032
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: You called names, and it.

1033
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 3: Became everybody called you, even other hosts called out being

1034
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: like that.

1035
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: It became not even like fun like it just became

1036
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: it became miserable talking about Colorado because anything you said

1037
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: negative was used against you, right and whatnot. And and

1038
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: so with that backdrop, I think a lot of media

1039
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: people that are forward facing, right, the TV people, they

1040
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: just you know, they mel kipert Sander's fifth on his

1041
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: big board, not like not a fifth, Like even the

1042
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: most ardent supporters of deals of sure Sanders will tell

1043
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: you that he's not the fifth best player in this draft.

1044
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: Right.

1045
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: So then and then there were sort of the film

1046
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: people that I that I follow on social media, and

1047
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: they all had sanators like the thirtieth best player in

1048
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 4: this draft because they're not worried about the backlash right

1049
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: that you were received not having him in the top

1050
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: five or ten or fifteen, and there was so there

1051
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: was a big difference there. And now even those.

1052
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: People, but nobody had him in the fifth round. Correct,

1053
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

1054
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: Correct, Obviously Obviously it's the.

1055
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: Reviews, though the interviews is what killed him. Well who

1056
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: has that? But God? Who has that attitude?

1057
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 4: Though?

1058
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: You know?

1059
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: Well, right, so this is sort of a broader discussion,

1060
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: right about just sort of always putting your best foot forward, yes,

1061
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: no matter the situation, in a job interview essentially, and

1062
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: the Sanders group approached this process like they were untouchable, right,

1063
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: and like they were going to be a first round

1064
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: pick and that and that the selects few teams that

1065
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: had the option of drafting him were going to take him.

1066
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: And I understand a little bit of that because it's

1067
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: such a quarterback driven league that sort of no matter

1068
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: how you look at it, you you know, you get

1069
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: drafted much higher than you I mean, even cam Ward.

1070
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 4: Cam Ward is not the best player in this draft,

1071
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: but he's a quarterback and so you value that position

1072
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: more than other positions exactly. So all those things I

1073
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: think line up to But I think the most surprising

1074
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: thing a week later is that no one in Dion's

1075
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: life was like, hey man, it's it's not what you

1076
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: think it is, and well can I she had that?

1077
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: No one was able to tell him that. I'll give

1078
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: you one. I showed this the other day. I'll give

1079
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: you a snippet of my interaction with shir Dear Sanders. Yeah,

1080
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: and I think this is a small window into maybe

1081
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 4: some of the interview process with him. Again, this is

1082
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: a one interaction. It doesn't mean more than it is.

1083
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: So I go to PAC twelve Media Day back when

1084
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: there was a PAC twelve and now I've been the

1085
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: Big ten media day to cover them for radio, and

1086
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 4: the way the process works in the media day, there's

1087
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 4: twelve coaches. Obviously there's twenty four players, right, this is

1088
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: the way PAC twelve did it. Twelve coaches, twenty four players.

1089
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: One day. Okay, from like eight am to five pm

1090
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 4: long day, we're on radio. There's a radio row there.

1091
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: I'm doing National Sports radio, College sports radio. It's a

1092
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 4: lot of fun during that day, and we interview all

1093
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: thirty six people, right, twelve coaches and twenty four players,

1094
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 4: two players a team, And as you can image, it's

1095
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: a pretty hectic process, right, you have a schedule. It

1096
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 4: almost never follows the schedule by the sids. The sports

1097
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: information directors who are in charge of sort of the

1098
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: day for each player and coach work with us. Right.

1099
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: So let's say, you know, you're supposed to come over

1100
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: at nine thirty, and we're busy, and the interview hasn't

1101
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: ended yet, and they just were working out. They all

1102
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: come back. We never missed anyone. Okay, everyone does the

1103
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: show with us because there's a respect level there, right,

1104
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: Like you have just five minutes, seven minutes. Like I

1105
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: remember Tick Kelly one time he moved. He went to

1106
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: the very end of the day to did the show

1107
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: with us. He's becoming nine, and it just didn't work out.

1108
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: But we all get I've never missed an interview of

1109
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: any player or any coach. And so we get to

1110
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: Colorado the first year there in the in the in

1111
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: the in the PAC twelve and look, they were certainly

1112
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 4: thinking about leaving, you know, they announced I think they

1113
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: were leaving the PAC twelve just briefly after packed to

1114
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: media day. So it comes time for Shadur standers to

1115
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: come over and talk to us. It's like mid afternoon,

1116
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: and by mid afternoon, the schedule is just a skew,

1117
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: like it's just a complete mess. So he he goes

1118
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: to sit down with us, and the person he's with

1119
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 4: is not the Colorado s I D. It's his own

1120
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: media person. And he says, you know, they said to us, hey,

1121
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: he's got he's got one minute with you guys before

1122
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 4: his next thing. And our boss was like, no, that's

1123
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 4: not the way it's gonna work. Let's figure out a

1124
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: way to make this work. We can have to have

1125
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: him for the full segment. Now, I'm I'm sitting most

1126
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: of the players end up saying next to me because

1127
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: the way our situation was set up, and so my

1128
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: head sets off and I'm just sort of waiting to

1129
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: go back on air, and he sits down next to me.

1130
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: He's on a FaceTime call, Wall Wall he sits. So

1131
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: he sits down on this call. Our boss is talking

1132
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 4: to his person about about sort of how this is

1133
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: gonna work. Can we reschedule? Can we figure out time

1134
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: to do this, and Santra just gets up and says,

1135
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this and leaves, Oh good, in the

1136
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 4: middle of the discussion.

1137
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: And you're a lot a lot of stories like that, yeah.

1138
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: And so, and they just left and again like one story,

1139
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: small story. Travis Hunter, by the way, was like the

1140
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: best ever. He sat with us for one segment. We

1141
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: told we were like, hey, you know, you know, good

1142
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 4: talking with you, Travis, pat too radio, be back in

1143
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: a few minutes. We just went to break. He just

1144
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: stayed with us for another Actually he's like no one

1145
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: was there to take him anywhere else, and we're like, dude,

1146
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: you don't have to stay, and he goes, I'll stay

1147
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 4: with you guys talk ball for our fifteen man. He

1148
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't a funy story about someone throwing up. It was

1149
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: like it was a lot of fun and like one story,

1150
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: what one one's happened one time to us? One story

1151
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 4: first time in like five million days, has ever happened

1152
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: where a player just like decided I'm just not doing

1153
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: this interview because I don't I don't know that. Our

1154
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: producer and not our producer, but our boss and his

1155
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: guy were sort of like arguing back and forth about

1156
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: how this should go. But he was on a FaceTime

1157
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: call during like when he's supposed to be with us,

1158
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 4: Like what if we just said, hey man, okay, we're

1159
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: back now, and would he don't? It just was it

1160
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 4: was it was a feeling of I'm above this process.

1161
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: I get it, and I look, I get it. You

1162
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: don't want to do media. I'm I understand, it's a

1163
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: it's a long days, the long process. You don't want

1164
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 4: to be there, You're leaving the conference anyways in a week, Like,

1165
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: I'm I understand that side of things. But I think

1166
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 4: it's just sort of the the attitude of sort of

1167
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 4: I'm better than all of this. And that attitude apparently

1168
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 4: showed up in a lot of his interactions with NFL people.

1169
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 4: And the thing about the NFL the process and whether

1170
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: it's right, wrong or indifferent. Okay, whether you agree with

1171
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: this or not, you you have to show respect to

1172
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: the process, and and you you have to come into

1173
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: the workouts and and and and and and the interviews

1174
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 4: with an excitement to want to do this, okay, And

1175
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: and I from the NFL side, they spend so many

1176
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 4: hours okay with the draft, right the scouting the players,

1177
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 4: the film review, the go into the events. I was

1178
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: talking to a buddy with the Panthers heading into the

1179
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: pre draft process a couple weeks ago. I'm like, what

1180
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 4: are you guys doing. He's like, We're there from like

1181
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 4: eight to eight. So we're watching film the entire day

1182
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 4: of all these guys. And I'm not saying you should

1183
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 4: they sign up for the job. They know what they're doing, okay,

1184
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: but these guys eat and breathe and live football. They

1185
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 4: miss family events. They so when a player comes in

1186
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 4: in the process and doesn't love football like they do,

1187
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: it's offensive to these NFL teams absolutely, And again I

1188
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: want to make it very clear you can have outside interest,

1189
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 4: but you sort of just have to fake it during

1190
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 4: the process of this interview with the National Football League,

1191
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: and any agent will tell you the number one selling

1192
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 4: point of this process and you have to You have

1193
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: to tell teams you love football, eds to show them.

1194
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 4: There were knocks of players in his draft wide receiver.

1195
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: For Arizona that said that he doesn't watch tape. Then

1196
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: he changes his mind and tonight it was funny that

1197
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: the Panthers end up drafting.

1198
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: Who's a great wide receiver.

1199
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 4: By the way, I think it's gonna be good. The NFL,

1200
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 4: so like these are just like little little everything adds up,

1201
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: right when your film is not the best ever, and

1202
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: then you add in these other things. And again, I

1203
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: think that the Sanders family or whoever was advising Dion

1204
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: and chadur just misread the situation. And it's unfortunately. I

1205
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: think Sanders is not a fifth round talent. I think

1206
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 4: he certainly can be better than that. So we can

1207
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: obviously come back and talk about where I think, you

1208
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: know how he's gonna play one now. But it's just

1209
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: a small story and it's just sort of how might

1210
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: one interaction with with him, And if that's the way

1211
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: that some of the meetings other meetings went, I can

1212
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: see what NFL people just were turned off by it.

1213
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent.

1214
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: And just so our listeners know, all the athletes, most

1215
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: of them at least, don't want to do interviews like that.

1216
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: They do so.

1217
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: Many and I'm not talking about when they finish the

1218
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: game and they get like thirty seconds with the you know,

1219
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: odd court reporter where they go good win way to

1220
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: come from behind and they get to leave, you know,

1221
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: you're talking five to ten, mostly ten minutes each time.

1222
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: I want you to know something, just to compare it

1223
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: to the Sanders story you just told. When I was

1224
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: working in LA and of course you can't go to

1225
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: the players. You got to go to the sids, You

1226
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: got to go to the people that work for the teams.

1227
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: I went to the Lakers and I said, hey, this

1228
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: is not fair. I know I'm a Knicks fan. I

1229
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: know people like to make fun of me for not

1230
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: being a Laker fan a little animosity, but you know,

1231
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: you know we cover the Lakers.

1232
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: We're there.

1233
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm on the road trips for the playoff games. I

1234
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: gotta have Kobe on the air. I gotta have them

1235
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: at least once, and I gotta have Shotgun once. And

1236
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: it's not fair. And the guy said, I'll do see

1237
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: what I can do. And guess what Kobe came on

1238
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: couldn't have been better. I think we had about twenty minutes.

1239
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: Guess what Shock came on wouldn't have been better. I

1240
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: was working for Network and I and we were very

1241
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: popular up in the Midwest, and I went to the

1242
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: Green Bay package I said, I got to have bred

1243
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: Farva on.

1244
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: It's not fair.

1245
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: You've had him on other networks, gotta have him on.

1246
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: Guess what, Brett Favre came on. These guys don't want

1247
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: to do interviews like that. But when these Hall of

1248
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: Famers could come on my little show, yeah, Sanders could certainly,

1249
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, have a little time.

1250
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: But it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't he didn't come on.

1251
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: It was it was how right, it was just like

1252
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: Seve really second there was a dispute. It was like

1253
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm out here and it's like right, like, let's work on,

1254
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: let's figure out of time to do this, because again

1255
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: it's important. You just got to the Pac twelve, like

1256
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: we're excited to interview you and talk to you. And

1257
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: you know we also we also we never got Dion

1258
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: in like two years, never really maybe a year. Yeah,

1259
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: I never only coach we ever interviewed.

1260
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: He was on the network I used to work for

1261
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: in Chicago and never got it was.

1262
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: Never we interviewed every We interviewed every coach.

1263
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: Really, that's funny because I talked to him in the

1264
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: airport and he couldn't have been more accommodating.

1265
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: It's not it's not that's not Deon's fault. I just

1266
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: that's probably the people in charge. I think getting him

1267
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: on would have been great. I think he would have

1268
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: been great on the on the on the show. He

1269
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 4: just never we just never. We never got him on unfortunately.

1270
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: It's just that he didn't do much. Uh maybe it's why.

1271
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he didn't like the way that they went down

1272
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 4: to mean, I don't know, but we we never got

1273
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: him on unfortunately. Look quickly, I Dion is so good

1274
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: for business. The idea that like, you can hate Deon

1275
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: Sanders because he's he is who he is. Come on, man,

1276
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: he is the best dude. We talk Colorado every day

1277
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: on our radio show. It's the best for business. Why

1278
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: would we not like someone like Dion.

1279
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: I agree with you one matter of fact. When we

1280
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: come back, I want to know how far you think

1281
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: could go. And I want to talk about Dion's other kid,

1282
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: because there was a video posted yesterday and I was

1283
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: shocked about it. So we're gonna get to all that.

1284
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: We got some more NFL coming up. All that's next,

1285
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: of course. Jeff Schwartz, Arnie Spanier, We're in for the fellas,

1286
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1287
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,360
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1288
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,760
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1289
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,960
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1290
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 6: listen live.

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Speaker 2: All right, good morning everybody. Jeff Schwartz, Arnie Spanier. We're

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Speaker 2: in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz on

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Speaker 2: this Saturday morning, third day of May. Any by the way,

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Speaker 2: any summer plans going anywhere and the vacation plans out there, Jeff?

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Speaker 4: For what I mean? Yeah, we have my kids go

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Speaker 4: to camp for a month, so we will camp hopefully,

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Speaker 4: my wife and I'll do some some fun down and

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Speaker 4: we have to make a Vegas trip I think for work.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice, but yeah, I know it's uh, it's me

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Speaker 4: here soon. I mean obviously, you know, school ends, Uh

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Speaker 4: were in public schools, we don't until like June tenth.

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Speaker 3: Ouch. Ouch. That's horrible, man, that's terrible.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it was like when I went to school,

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Speaker 2: we didn't finish till June. But then we didn't have

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Speaker 2: to go till I believe what after Labor Day, we

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Speaker 2: didn't have to go back till like September or.

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Speaker 3: Something like that. I was it was just way too long.

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Speaker 3: I mean way June.

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Speaker 2: That's just way the way too far to start your summer.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt that I'm going to the.

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Speaker 2: Dominican Republic in a couple of weeks, so I'm looking

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that never been so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: hopefully it was. What's one of those all inclusive resorts

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Speaker 2: so I can eat.

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Speaker 3: And drink all I want and not have to pay.

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Speaker 4: So you've already paid.

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Speaker 3: That's trews, that's true.

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Speaker 2: But at least you know, I could just bring me

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Speaker 2: three meatball sandwiches and I'm there.

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Speaker 3: I've set there. I want to go ahead and get

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Speaker 3: to back to Dion's kids.

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Speaker 2: You saw the video, actually, I sentioned it was all

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Speaker 2: over social media. Uh, Antonio Brown ran some routes against

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Speaker 2: Shiloh Sanders and he was just cooking Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: It looked like a NFL player going up against the

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Speaker 2: high school kid, had him twisting and turning every which way.

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Speaker 2: Why did Antonio Brown post something like that, especially when

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that was probably meant to be kept a secret,

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Speaker 2: and especially him cooking Sanders. I thought that was kind

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Speaker 2: of in poor taste and are people thinking Sanders is

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Speaker 2: an NFL player, but not the way he looked in

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Speaker 2: that video, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, it seems like there's a feud between Antonio Brown

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Speaker 4: and maybe Santa's. I think that he's just he's just

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Speaker 4: trying to to just know, attaching to himself. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Antonio Brown's social media feed can be quite interesting. I

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Speaker 4: think that's that feels like that's all that was.

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Speaker 3: To be Hilo play in the NFL. Do you think

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Speaker 3: he's an NFL player? No, he's not gonna, don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he did. He sign a mini camp

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Speaker 4: contract with anyone. I don't think he.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he might, didn't have bucks, Yeah, Tampa Bay, there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think his son is gonna play much

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. He had trouble he could. It was

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Speaker 4: tough in college at times.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Randy Moss's son signed a free agent contract

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Speaker 2: with Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: He was a Division two player.

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Speaker 2: So I really can't see him, you know, hooking up,

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Speaker 2: especially when you get he didn't even play Division one,

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Speaker 2: so you know that that that didn't even happen for him.

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Speaker 2: How far do you think, sure, duer will go. I

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Speaker 2: asked you, do you think he's going to make the team?

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna make the Browns? Are they gonna go

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Speaker 2: with two rookie quarterbacks and one's just gonna be inactive

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Speaker 2: during game day and they'll be like on the travel

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Speaker 2: squad or practice squad or whatever they want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Or will he end up being a starter? Will he

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Speaker 2: get playing time? I mean, what's what will happen to Shadura?

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Speaker 3: What happens if he gets cut? Will he have to

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Speaker 3: go to another team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't think he's gonna get cut. I feel

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Speaker 4: comfortable with that. To be honest with you, I don't

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Speaker 4: think he's getting cut, especially not now. So it's really

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Speaker 4: interesting because you know, if you would have like reordered

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Speaker 4: this and you would have said to yourself, Hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: we have a situation where Sanders are drafted ahead of

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Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, you've been like totally totally chill with that

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Speaker 4: idea obviously, right, But it didn't. It didn't happen that way,

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Speaker 4: and so it feels a little funky in the order

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Speaker 4: they were drafted. So you look, you understand how a

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Speaker 4: practice works, right, So the starter is gonna be. I

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Speaker 4: would imagine there's going to be a battle between Flacka

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Pickett for for the starting for the starting reps, right,

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Speaker 4: who's the starter? The loser of that probably gets released,

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Speaker 4: is my guess.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I think it gets released.

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Speaker 4: So now the question becomes, obviously, how do Sanders and

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Speaker 4: Gabriel get reps? Because you could easily make the case

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Speaker 4: that Sanders is better than Dylan Gabriel. I think we

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Speaker 4: sort of agree on that, but he was drafted behind

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Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, So the Browns are telling you they think,

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Speaker 4: at least in the draft, thought higher of Gabriel than Sanders.

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Speaker 4: So you would think, again, just logically, that when reps

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Speaker 4: come out, it's sort of Flacco, Pickett, Gabriel, Sanders. So

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Speaker 4: Sanders might end up being the better quarterback to Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 4: It's again totally fair to assume that, but early on

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Speaker 4: he's not going to get the reps to make that

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Speaker 4: happen in my opinion, unless he comes down in mini camp.

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Speaker 4: And look, I've watched Jill Gabriel play for a year

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Speaker 4: as an organ fan. Dill Gabriel is gonna be fine

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Speaker 4: in practice, Like nothing's gonna alarm you and tell you like,

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Speaker 4: you know what. I don't think Gabriel can play. I

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Speaker 4: think he's small and probably not great for the NFL game.

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Speaker 3: Last year he would have been undrafted free agent. How

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Speaker 3: he correct but he's.

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Speaker 4: But he's going to practice well like so there's not

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Speaker 4: gonna be in my opinion early in training camp for

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Speaker 4: the Browns like, Wow, Sanders is that much better than Gabriel,

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Speaker 4: We're going to give him the reps instead of instead

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Speaker 4: of Gabriel. So I think it's going to take time

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Speaker 4: for Sanators to basically earn playing time, but I think

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Speaker 4: he will. I think he won't some point, but it

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Speaker 4: won't be early in its training people that he's gonna

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Speaker 4: come in and be be out don Gabriel because he's

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Speaker 4: better than him. He is better than him. But will

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Speaker 4: the Browns give him the opportunity to do that because

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Speaker 4: of the way they drafted those guys. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you're assigning reps in training camp ormerly in mini camp

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Speaker 4: right now, again based off the draft, you would put

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Speaker 4: Sanders getting reps last of that group because of where

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Speaker 4: you drafted him.

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Speaker 2: If it was a preseason game coming up this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and I told you, Gabriel and Sanders, we're gonna split

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Speaker 2: time half the game each and your wife goes, let's

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Speaker 2: go out to dinner. You're gonna say, no, I want

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Speaker 2: to see Sha Door Sanders playing that preseason game. I

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Speaker 2: think ratings would be through the roof if they had

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Speaker 2: him as a starting quarterback for half. People want to

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Speaker 2: see absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 4: The Browns like in the preseason World NFL Network Game one.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely they're gonna get There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that want to see what he could do. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that want to watch Brown's preseason

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Speaker 2: right see what he's gonna put up there, which is by.

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Speaker 4: What was is why there was some trepidation about drafting

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Speaker 4: a player like Sanders to be a backup at first,

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Speaker 4: because look, the idea of distractions, Like, I know, people

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Speaker 4: think it's sort of off putting. I think to mention

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Speaker 4: distractions when it comes to the National Football League and

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Speaker 4: why teams don't like them, Well, what does it matter here?

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Speaker 4: Here's why it sort of matters. Let me explain, like

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Speaker 4: the distraction part to you. Yeah, so let's say you're

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Speaker 4: you're your Miles Garrett, okay, and you know you're it's

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Speaker 4: it's obviously the workouts, it's training camp, it's the season,

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Speaker 4: and uh, do you want to be asked about, sir Sanders,

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Speaker 4: your backup quarterback every day? No, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't like That's what it is, right, It's that

1442
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Speaker 4: like every time an older player is talking, they get

1443
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 4: asked a question about the backup quarterback, and that that

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Speaker 4: is one form of distraction. The other format, obviously, is

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01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 4: things aren't going well, people are wanting the backup quarterback

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: to get to get playing time. And again that's fine

1447
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: iss in a vacuum, the backup can be. But it's

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Speaker 4: just it's a lot of just constant noise about the

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback, and teams don't like that. And I get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying someone's right or wrong on the situation,

1451
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Speaker 4: but I get why teams trying to limit distractions like

1452
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Speaker 4: that because this not great for team morale. But again,

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Speaker 4: I think Brown's got a supreme value here. I think

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Speaker 4: we all agree. I don't think Sarah is the best

1455
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Speaker 4: quarterback prospect. I think he's certainly better than the fifth

1456
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Speaker 4: round talent. So there's a lot of of potential here

1457
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Speaker 4: for Sarah's to overplay his to overplay his draft slot

1458
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Speaker 4: and the Browns get a lot of value in the

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Speaker 4: addition of him, and you know, to their team.

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Speaker 2: Will Dion be a problem during the regular season, you think,

1461
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Speaker 2: or is he going to be so busy with Colle

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Speaker 2: Dorado that he doesn't have time to really, you know,

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Speaker 2: get involved and say what he wants to say, though

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: I guess gonna keep what do you like? What do

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Speaker 4: you consider a problem?

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Speaker 2: I guess the question They they need to play Shaduur

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Speaker 2: more and they wouldn't be zero and three if if

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Speaker 2: Shaduur was the starting quarterback something like that, I guess

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Speaker 2: or what.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna say that, though.

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Speaker 4: I would hope that, I have faith won't do that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: He's a former player himself, he's head coach himself. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he wants to bring that on his son.

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: I I don't so I would say that that that's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be a problem. Also, but look,

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Speaker 2: I haven't remembered a time like this where we've had

1480
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Speaker 2: to deal with so many I guess fathers, you know,

1481
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: because their kids are are playing I mean, uh, we

1482
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: got to deal with Lebron's kids, Dion's kids, Hala Burton's

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: father or how about that? That was kind of crazy.

1484
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: I I mean, that was insane out there. It seems

1485
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: like we're dealing with a lot of people's uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, family when it comes to sports nowadays.

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Speaker 4: You know, look, I mean you you just a lot

1488
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: of these you know, well, the players that that we

1489
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 4: grew up with are having kids now. Obviously that's partly

1490
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Speaker 4: why we have that way. But also look, I don't

1491
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 4: know if it's uh, I think there's there's just more

1492
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Speaker 4: access to seeing what is happening. Like Hollyburn's father, right,

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 4: for those who missed it, Jez, they the Pacers beat

1494
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 4: the Bucks last second shot by by Hollyburn and his

1495
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 4: dad who supposedly is on the court every game to

1496
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 4: say hi to the posing teams players.

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Speaker 3: I guess he he.

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01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: Got in the face of of Giannis and right too

1499
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 4: right and taunted him and again like John is better

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Speaker 4: man than I am. I would have it would have been,

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 4: you know, we would have had some.

1502
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: Words that could.

1503
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 4: Like that. You honest seem to handle it very well.

1504
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 4: He did, And I wonder like this just not happened

1505
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: before cell phone cameras. You know. I think part of

1506
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 4: it is just there's so much access to like seeing

1507
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 4: these things now that we get to notice them more often.

1508
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know if they actually happen more often,

1509
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 4: but you know, the players now there's also you know,

1510
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 4: like an empowerment eras as people say, like players, I

1511
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 4: don't think their parents weren't allowed to do these things

1512
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: now teams just say all right, cool, like you that

1513
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: wants to be in the field after the game, like

1514
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 4: all right, like whatever, man, you're in charge. Now there's

1515
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: a little different it's a little different vibe now. I

1516
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: just don't think that was either it didn't happen as

1517
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: much and was not accepted. We maybe not didn't see

1518
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 4: it as much, but just wasn't really part of of

1519
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 4: the of the fan experience here.

1520
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: And the other way too, like when Lebron stared down

1521
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 3: stephen A.

1522
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Smith too, you know that was that was insane, That

1523
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: was kind of crazy out there.

1524
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just is your port like you didn't get that.

1525
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 4: That wasn't part of you know. But also you know,

1526
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 4: the Steve Nasmith is a is a personality. You know,

1527
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 4: we didn't have those type of people in the sports media.

1528
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all, that's for sure.

1529
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: All right, of course, Jeff Schwartz, already, span your in

1530
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: for the Fellas today.

1531
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna come back. I want to get to a

1532
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: dual Carter.

1533
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: He'll get a number, right, He's not going to be

1534
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: like a question mark on his jersey.

1535
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 3: Sure, we'll get to that.

1536
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: That's going up next, right to your odd Fox Sports Radio.

1537
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, for the best pregame show every weekend, be

1538
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: sure to tune in the Fox Sports Radio Countdown, presented

1539
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 2: to you by bet MGM. It's every Saturday and Sunday

1540
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: morning from non am the noon Eastern that's six am

1541
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: to nine am Pacific.

1542
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 3: We'll count you down to all the biggest games.

1543
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Tune in the Countdown presented by bet MGM every Saturday

1544
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: and Sunday right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

1545
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app. Jeff Schwartz, Arnie Spanier, We're in for

1546
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: the Fellas today, Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz.

1547
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 3: Good morning, everybody. On this third day of May.

1548
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: Abdual Carter of the New York Giants, drafted by the

1549
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: New York Giants. He's gonna be a rookie he was

1550
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: picking his number, wanted to wear Lawrence Taylor's retired number

1551
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: fifty six. LT said no, no, it's not going to happen.

1552
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: Carter needs to make his own way with his own number.

1553
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: Then people brought up, well, what about number eleven, which

1554
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,440
Speaker 2: is of course retired for Phil Simms.

1555
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 3: Phil Simms was fored. He's like, yeah, I don't mind.

1556
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: But then I guess phil Simms family out voted and

1557
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,480
Speaker 2: he won't get number eleven.

1558
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, what's in a number? My friend? Is this

1559
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: a big deal? Is this a big story? Shitting?

1560
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 4: I missed the phil Simms family part that they vetoed

1561
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 4: the number.

1562
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: They vetoed the number, so he won't be able to

1563
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: wear number eleven either. Now Phil was saying with it,

1564
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: but I guess the family members said no, no, no,

1565
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: you can't do that, Phil.

1566
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 3: So Phil said no, so he's not gonna wear number eleven.

1567
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: What's in the number? Jeff? What I mean? You played it?

1568
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 5: Was it?

1569
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: Is it that now you've seen players pay thousands of dollars, yeah,

1570
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: to take somebody's number, and that's not the case.

1571
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: Really, I think it's super I think it's little bit superstition.

1572
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 4: But wow that he Philismon's family said, no, interesting.

1573
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: Why why does that surprise you? You did?

1574
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: You think he because it's because it's it's I think

1575
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 4: it's his decision whether or not he gives up his

1576
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: jersey number. Now of course, you know, you know, I

1577
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 4: get it. Look, Lawrence Taylor essentially said like, make your

1578
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 4: own like, make your own number.

1579
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: Kind of said the same thing too, you know.

1580
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like his thing was like, that's my number. Become

1581
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: a legend in your own number. And look, I get it.

1582
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 4: I understand, totally understand like his thought process behind that.

1583
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: I by the way, I like, I like them Michael Parsons.

1584
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: Parsons like he number eleven. I like that. Abdul Carter

1585
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: feels this confident right that he wants to be Lawrence Taylor.

1586
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 4: But I actually love Lawrence Taylor's response, which is like, dude, like,

1587
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: you know, create your own legacy with total with your

1588
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: own number. I love it. So I'm a big fan

1589
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 4: of him saying that essentially to him. And you know, again,

1590
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: number is a lot of superstition. It's it's a lot

1591
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: of it's what I grew up you know with, Like

1592
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 4: I think Will Campbell for the Patriot has an odd

1593
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 4: not a odd number, but sixty six is not a

1594
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: popular but he's had his entire life. He's going to

1595
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 4: keep that. In New England, I saw who Mason Graham

1596
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: for the Browns fifty five. There was a video of

1597
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 4: him like meeting the equipment manager in the Browns and

1598
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: obviously fifty five is taken by one of their centers,

1599
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 4: and then he won a ninety five. Obviously, can't have

1600
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 4: that camp back. That's Miles Scartt like do people just

1601
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: they have the number they like and that's just what

1602
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: they want to wear their entire career. I was seventy

1603
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 4: four for most of my career except I was seventy

1604
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 4: six one season with the King, my worst season ever.

1605
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: So you're never gonna wear seventy six.

1606
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, I hate hate the number. No, I hate

1607
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 4: the number. So, I mean that's so it's a it's

1608
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: a superstition. It's like it's a so I don't know

1609
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 4: what he's gonna wear until Carter's gonna wear. But you know,

1610
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 4: number one, I think it's taken. If you want to

1611
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 4: be number one, I mean there's just a lot of

1612
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 4: choices are taken. But again, making your own thing, right,

1613
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: and so I'm curious what ends up happening with that.

1614
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 4: I'm surprised Phil sims family said. No. That does surprise

1615
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 4: me because well, you.

1616
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: Know what, what what happens if Carter becomes a Hall

1617
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: of Famer, then they want to retire that number who's

1618
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: retire is going to be Phil Simms and Carter's number

1619
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: retired or what you know, because.

1620
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: It's a good point. I didn't think a bit like that,

1621
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: but I it does still surprise me a little bit

1622
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 4: because I didn't think families were I mean, Phil Sims

1623
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 4: is still alive.

1624
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 3: I left.

1625
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: I checked. And normally it's essentially made by you know,

1626
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: a family member who has passed. Someone else of their

1627
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 4: state is making those as for them.

1628
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 3: You know, you know what the best number is, but

1629
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 3: it's been out lawed.

1630
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 5: Now.

1631
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but in baseball,

1632
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 2: and he only played one game, I believe it was

1633
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: a gimmick thing. Uh and you can't say the word anymore.

1634
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: But he was a little person and he played one game.

1635
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: His name was Eddie Goodell.

1636
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was No.

1637
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: One eighth, one eighth, Oh boy, he was. He was

1638
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: only about like three feet tall. He came up to

1639
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: bat for the White Sox to draw a walk is

1640
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: what his only goal was to do.

1641
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: It feels like something like the Savannah Bananas would would do?

1642
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: Have you been to Savannah Banana?

1643
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: So I have not. I will in a couple of

1644
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 4: weeks to come to Charlotte. My family loves Savannah Manna

1645
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 4: as they've been three times and we we've entered the

1646
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: lottery for tickets. We've entered the lottery for tickets multiple

1647
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: years now. We have tickets this year to like seven

1648
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 4: different games all over the country. I don't know if

1649
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: we're going to keep all of them. But we had

1650
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 4: two nights in Atlanta they wet one night. We have

1651
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 4: Charlotte and Yankee Stadium. We have tickets Yankee Stadium with

1652
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: tickets to the one in Seattle. Wow, my kids do

1653
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 4: they love it. They love it. It looks a ton

1654
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 4: of fun. It's two hours. Obviously, it's entertainment. It's different

1655
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 4: way to watch baseball. They play real baseball like it's

1656
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: the kids. The kids very much enjoyed it.

1657
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: I saw one of the fans catch a foul ball

1658
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: and it was the last play of the game, and

1659
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: that counts asn't out.

1660
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the game for them.

1661
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: If you catch the ball in the stands, you you

1662
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: it counts as it out.

1663
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's fantastic, is it not?

1664
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: They just they it's kind of like the Harlem Globe

1665
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: Trotters and they really, I mean eighty one thousand of

1666
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,959
Speaker 2: Clemson think about that. That's insane. That is that's marketing.

1667
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: That's that's what it's all about, Jeff. You know what

1668
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the way to get it going.

1669
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. I love it too, you know.

1670
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: It's it's it's a dude, it's a great concept. I'm

1671
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: glad it's working out. And yes they are selling out

1672
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: football stadiums cheez, which I mean, it's crazy.

1673
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable, and they they have done a great job,

1674
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: all right, Jeff, two hours or in the books the

1675
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: power Hours coming up next, will come back reset. I

1676
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: want to go ahead and get into some of the

1677
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: other series in the NBA. We got some more NFL

1678
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: that gets you also, and talking about being in shape,

1679
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: we saw a picture of Travis Kelcey, so we're gonna

1680
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to that story also.

1681
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting.

1682
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: All that coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1683
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1684
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Speaker 2: Fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz on this Saturday morning.

1693
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Speaker 2: Jeff over under fifty, over under fifty. I need a

1694
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: number here of when you were in high school you

1695
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: ditch school to go down to the beach and hang

1696
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: out at the Pacific Ocean. Over under fifty, probably under it.

1697
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 4: But I would just go ditch and like get lunch

1698
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 4: and like in the village or like go to fiesta

1699
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 4: feast like I wasn't. I didn't really ditch to the beach.

1700
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 4: I just go eat because I go eat Snattie. You know.

1701
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: I remember I ditched first period, which I had drama,

1702
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: and I would go to mort Stelly, which was an

1703
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: icon back then up in the Pacific Palisades, and me

1704
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: and my buddies went to mort Stelly and I looked

1705
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: over and the teacher that was teaching the class was there, Like, Okay,

1706
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: I guess we're not visiting a whole like them a

1707
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: lot today.

1708
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I would just ditch like we used to have.

1709
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 4: It was the afternoon period. It's like we used to

1710
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 4: be able to leave campus for lunch, which yes, feels insane.

1711
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 4: They just would like, let you leave. I don't think

1712
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 4: so anymore. They let you leave and then just like

1713
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: accepted you come back.

1714
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 3: I guess, hoping, hope, hope, I just come back.

1715
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 4: I just wouldn't come back. I don't know, like what

1716
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean. They let you literally take your car if

1717
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: you had one, and leave campus for lunch and try

1718
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 4: to like yeah, I just I just would never come back.

1719
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: I know.

1720
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: It was like for in forty five minutes we'd have

1721
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: to drive somewhere, get something to eat, and come back.

1722
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Who would ever make it back on time? You know?

1723
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 4: So I just happened to be stuck in traffic or

1724
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 4: my order didn't come through. I just would stay out

1725
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 4: of that, don't come back for practice.

1726
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were talking about Palisades High School.

1727
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: Both of us went to Pali High You graduated what

1728
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: two thousand and four and me two thousand and three.

1729
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 4: I think, so they're good.

1730
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm kidding up back in the eighties, my

1731
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: friend eighty one, we.

1732
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: Had a lot of famous people. I didn't even bring

1733
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: it up.

1734
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 2: Like Katie Sagal, I went to Pacific Palisades High School

1735
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: and all kinds of actors and actresses. I was looking

1736
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: at list earlier. It's absolutely crazy. I can't think of

1737
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: another high school that had so many, you know, great

1738
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: and interesting people that went there. It's just absolutely nuts.

1739
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: A lot of them were back in my era too.

1740
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: You know a lot of the volleyball players, and you know,

1741
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: we had a lot of actors. Peter Delouiz, I don't

1742
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: know if you remember him. Don Delauiz's kid was an

1743
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: actor back in our days. So anyway, just a lot

1744
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: of fun going back in the old palis Ades thing.

1745
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: Of course, they were hurt by the fire.

1746
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Fifty percent of the school burned down, and they'll go

1747
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: ahead and move down to the down the Santa Monica

1748
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: until they rebuild that. But it's good to see that

1749
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: they're keeping things moving out there. All right, I want

1750
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: to get back to some sports. It is the power

1751
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: hour of the show. Greg Popovich no longer going to

1752
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: be head coach of the San Antonio Spurso be what

1753
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: president or that's his official title, be president of the

1754
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: team overall? Is pop And I hate to do the

1755
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore thing? But is he right up there? Is

1756
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: he a great coach? Did he just benefit, you know,

1757
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: from David Robinson and Tim Duncan noticed he came back

1758
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: to coach once he got those guys and he's like, yeah,

1759
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: I think I can coach with these two guys out there.

1760
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: And should we judge him based on all the snarkiness?

1761
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: I guess is the word I'm looking for?

1762
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: You know when you see him on TV and he

1763
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: gives those one word answers and then people are going

1764
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: to hold his political view against them also because he

1765
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 2: made it so well public.

1766
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: Is all that fair? Or do we just judge him

1767
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: on his coaching ability?

1768
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you judge him on everything, But

1769
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 4: I think first and forth, he want he's a coach.

1770
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 4: He doesn't want his coaching ability. He doesn't want his

1771
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 4: ability to create championship teams. And look, plenty of rosters

1772
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 4: have great players, they don't win championships. He won championships

1773
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 4: with multiple different iterations right of rosters. Obviously he had.

1774
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: Never pieces, never back, sure, but back.

1775
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: To back is not as often as we think either.

1776
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: By the way, what was the last back to back

1777
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: NBA champion? It was the Warriors Gurrant team. Was that

1778
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: the last one? I think? Probably? Yeah, So back to back,

1779
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 4: winning back to back championships is difficult. It doesn't happen

1780
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 4: very as often as we think in sports, by the way,

1781
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: And so I again, he won with you know again,

1782
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 4: a lot of the teams sort of had the same

1783
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 4: you know components, you know in in uh yeah, the

1784
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 4: Warriors one went back to back in seventeen and eighteen.

1785
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of you know, his team sort

1786
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 4: of had some of the same components, but also you know,

1787
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 4: different different Kawai was a you know, champion, m VP

1788
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 4: of of one year. Kawhi wasn't there the first couple

1789
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 4: of years. It was Duncan and Robinson. It's a different

1790
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: So to me, I think Pops the best coaches ever,

1791
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 4: very clear, and I think also it's important to note

1792
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 4: that when when your opponent and the way people talk

1793
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 4: about him is very glowing, is important, right because you

1794
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 4: know a lot. I think those people will shoot you straight.

1795
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 4: They don't have to tell you a nice things about Papovich.

1796
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 3: Does Kawhi Leonard have glowing things to say about Popovich?

1797
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 4: Remember they had that does Colin have glowing things about anybody?

1798
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but remember he that's the reason why

1799
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: he left. Papovich said he's healthy in a way, and

1800
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard wasn't gonna play and ended up leaving

1801
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: San Antonio. That's that's one marriage that certainly didn't work out, Jeff,

1802
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

1803
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: If you could ask players, you know, I mean certainly.

1804
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 4: But I think that we're judging him off of one

1805
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 4: player not liking him. I think that's the wrong way.

1806
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best ever. Look, would

1807
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 4: you have liked him to treat the silent reporters better? Absolutely?

1808
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 4: That would have I think been been a positive. But

1809
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't think that changes much of how I feel

1810
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 4: about him as a coach.

1811
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 3: Is he on the Mount Rushmore?

1812
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Red r back, you got Pat Riley,

1813
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: you got Phil Jackson. I guess Greg Popovitch right there

1814
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: the fourth or the best of out there or you know,

1815
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: right right.

1816
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 4: Right, Steve has got to be included in that probably right?

1817
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh not yeah, no no not not not even coach

1818
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: yet not him?

1819
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 4: And don't him and pop the same amount of championships?

1820
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 3: Uh? Popovich has four?

1821
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 4: Right? The four each He's got five time champions occurred

1822
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 4: one behind yeah, behind Pop. I think Court's got. I

1823
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 4: think they got four right, the works have four championships.

1824
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: Wells more obviously if you're get to throw in the

1825
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: playing ones too.

1826
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got. He's got five champions as a player

1827
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 4: and four as a coach.

1828
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 3: Pretty well, wow what you might be right up?

1829
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: But I don't think he passes Popovich on the coaching.

1830
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Scale though, I don't. I don't, not at least I

1831
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: don't think he.

1832
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 4: Again, Pop has done it for longer. I mean, his

1833
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 4: first championship was ninety nine. His last championship was in

1834
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 4: uh in fourteen, So wow, you know he's had a

1835
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 4: run there. I look, I don't know who's on the

1836
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 4: mount rushmore of coaches. I think Greg Popins is showing

1837
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 4: to be considered on that on that Mount Rushmore. Also,

1838
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: when you consider, you know, some of the international coaching

1839
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 4: he's done as well as uh as you know for

1840
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 4: the the US men's basketball team, is important to the discussion.

1841
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I think Pop's one of the best obviously,

1842
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: you know, I think you hope he would treat solar

1843
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 4: reporters with a little more respected times, but that's just

1844
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 4: what he was. Look the political stuff, man, again, you

1845
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 4: know it's not for some people. I I probably would

1846
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 4: lean Tory Green with with what Pop said a lot

1847
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 4: of times, but you know that's not really for me

1848
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: to say. I don't think I want my coaches sometimes

1849
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 4: to be that outspoken, but certainly has the right to

1850
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: do so, right, and it should not affect the way

1851
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 4: you feel about a coach in my opinion, right, I mean, look,

1852
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 4: Nick Stabman just spoke before Trump commntioned speech of Alabama.

1853
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: Yes he did.

1854
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 4: It doesn't I don't change the way I feel by

1855
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 4: Nick Saban because because you know the type of coach

1856
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 4: he has made.

1857
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: But isn't there a difference between making a statement like

1858
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: that at a at a conference like that and then

1859
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: saying something like Steve Kerr and Popovich does at a

1860
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: postgame press conference.

1861
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: Well, there's a time of there's a time of place

1862
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: for obviously, But I'm talking about more about the the

1863
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,440
Speaker 4: like the idea that a coach can be political. I don't.

1864
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't change my opinion about a coach because of

1865
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 4: their political stance. I don't. I just I feel I'm

1866
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 4: unbothered by those things. I mean, would I would? I

1867
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 4: like if I if a coach that I agreed more

1868
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 4: on some stuff, I guess I don't know, But it

1869
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 4: doesn't change my opinion on any of the coaches because

1870
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 4: what political party they support.

1871
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 3: Some people would disagree with YA on that something.

1872
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: Well, of course they would. I get why they would,

1873
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 4: but I I just.

1874
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: A lot of people would be like that, Yeah, sure.

1875
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 4: Again, I I agree with more with with what more

1876
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 4: what Papa has said that maybe we wouldn't exaem it

1877
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 4: agrees politically, but that doesn't it doesn't change my view

1878
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 4: of the coach themselves. And so that's you know, the

1879
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 4: point is, like, you know, does politics politics play into

1880
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 4: my my my thought process when it comes to him

1881
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: as a coach. And my answer is.

1882
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: No, if And I'm going to move on from this

1883
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: just one thing, moving out from Popovich because we're talking

1884
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 2: about great coaches out of here, and I started thinking

1885
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: about this. If the Lakers had had a coach like

1886
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson back, or a big time coach instead of

1887
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: a JJ Reddick who was coaching in his first year,

1888
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 2: would the Lakers have been eliminated in the first round

1889
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: where they've been tossed to the side the way they

1890
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: did four games to one. I find that hard to

1891
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: believe if Phil Jackson was the coach that something like

1892
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: that would have happened to him.

1893
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 4: You know, probably not, but they're probably not winning the series.

1894
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 4: They just they're just really yeah, I mean, dude.

1895
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 2: They were big favorites, Jeff, they are big favorites to

1896
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and win this series.

1897
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 4: There had twenty seven and twenty four.

1898
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's insane.

1899
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 4: They had no big men. Would have changed, would have

1900
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 4: changed the way they closed out games? I don't think so.

1901
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 4: Maybe game four, but they did. Couldn't close out Game

1902
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 4: five either, or game or Game three, like it's it.

1903
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if a coach would have made a

1904
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 4: difference in the overall result of the series. Could have

1905
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 4: been more games, sure, but the Lakers had deficiencies and

1906
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 4: the Wolves were able to coach, you're not coaching take

1907
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 4: advantage of those.

1908
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: So you're not.

1909
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: You're You're not one of the people in Los Angeles

1910
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: blaming JJ Reddick.

1911
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 3: Like everybody else, he's.

1912
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: An experienced He shouldn't have played the starters the whole

1913
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: second half.

1914
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 3: You know, he is an experience.

1915
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 4: That that that that is a fact he is. This

1916
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 4: is his first time in the in the playoffs, right, Yes,

1917
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 4: he's inexperienced.

1918
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 3: Right, and that might have cast him down the stretch.

1919
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: But you might be right where they weren't gonna win

1920
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: the series against Minnesota. Minnesota earned that series. They deserved

1921
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: that series. The Lakers, you know, nobody gave them anything.

1922
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: They just not played Los Angeles.

1923
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1924
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 3: In that whole entire series.

1925
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,839
Speaker 4: They they played them, They played them most often. Wuldn't

1926
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 4: matter at the end of games that the Lakers were fine.

1927
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 4: I mean Game four, they were winning for most of

1928
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 4: the game and then they lost at the end. Game

1929
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 4: five that they got blown out, came came all the way.

1930
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 4: But I mean they were INDI these games for most

1931
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 4: of the game and a lot of them, and they

1932
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 4: just couldn't finish.

1933
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 2: With the Lakers being eliminated, now and that really hurts

1934
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 2: the NBA because the Lakers make everything move, they make

1935
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: the needle move.

1936
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:14,959
Speaker 3: What happens if it's Oklahoma.

1937
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: And I brought this up with Chris Plank. He hates

1938
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: me for this because he's in Oklahoma and he just

1939
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: rips me for it every time I bring it up.

1940
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland and Oklahoma City the least watched NBA Finals in

1941
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: the history of the NBA.

1942
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 4: I mean probably it probably, but look, here's the deal.

1943
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 4: I'm a sports fan. I'm gonna watch it anyways. Okay,

1944
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 4: course of course is the NBA ratings discussion is so

1945
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 4: interesting to me because you know every year at the

1946
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: end of the year, there's always that graphic on social media.

1947
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 4: It's just like one hundred most watch events of the year. Okay,

1948
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 4: seventy five are football, twenty two or basketball, and three

1949
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 4: are like the Oscars and a political debate. Okay, Like right,

1950
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 4: even though the NBA might not get the ratings it

1951
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 4: wants or the eyeballs it wants for the NBA Finals,

1952
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 4: it's still the second most watch product in all of

1953
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 4: the country. And you're right, looks, okay, see in Cleveland

1954
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 4: really sell nashally like Lakers, Boston absolutely not, but they are.

1955
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,799
Speaker 4: If you're a sports fan, you will enjoy watching Cleveland.

1956
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 4: Okay see play.

1957
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: Okaye had sixty eight wins. That's like one of the

1958
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: best regular season win basketball.

1959
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 4: Cleveland man sixty four. They're the one seed, by the way,

1960
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 4: in the East. I think we all think Boston is right.

1961
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 4: The Calves are. The Caves have looked incredible, so if

1962
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 4: they look better than Boston in the first round of playoffs,

1963
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 4: Boston could be sort of sand back in it a

1964
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 4: little bit right now. But and then they're not as

1965
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 4: healthy as the Calves are, so it'll be a legit.

1966
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 4: Okay see uh will be a fun series, but yet

1967
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 4: nationally it's not. It's not Lakers. No, it's not Celtics.

1968
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 4: The NBA didn't catch a break. But Lakers are out

1969
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 4: and the Warriors might be out after Game seven, who knows.

1970
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 4: But you get you get Nick Celtics, which obviously is

1971
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 4: very Northeast but very two very big brands to a

1972
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 4: historic NBA brands play each other in what I would

1973
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a pretty fun series. That's

1974
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 4: good for the NBA.

1975
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: It's good for the NBA. But what bothers me is

1976
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to the Knicks game. What was

1977
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 2: a game five? Wait, yeah, game five in New York

1978
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 2: and the price to go to the game. You add

1979
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 2: up all the other NBA games that were playing, and

1980
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 2: they didn't come up to the price of the one

1981
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: New York Knicks ticket to get to the game.

1982
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: Good luck, good luck of this series, buddy.

1983
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh gee, it's gonna be see. And they talk about

1984
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 2: how the fans, how some of these arenas are not

1985
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: electric in places like New York and Boston because they

1986
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 2: say the regular fan is priced out absolutely, and these

1987
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 2: are all the superstars, these are all the rich people

1988
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: that just want to be seen, you know.

1989
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 4: Do you see the game last night? Looked like he

1990
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 4: was playing at More in San Frcraisco. There was I

1991
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,839
Speaker 4: don't think I've ever seen the energy lesson an arena

1992
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 4: for a close out game like that place last night.

1993
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if you were able to pay attention

1994
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 4: to it looked dead and right last night. It's vera

1995
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 4: rightshow and obviously like it's not Oakland anymore, where the

1996
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 4: team used to be. It's a very corporate crowd. But

1997
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 4: there are some places that I think rise above that

1998
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 4: I think feel like in Boston. The fan base. I

1999
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, ad the enough Staple Center. Late

2000
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 4: Lakers fans are pretty good in those big, those big moments.

2001
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 4: LA fans are good in those big moments where the

2002
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 4: crowd is really into it. But I think in sports

2003
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 4: homeful of environments less and less now college sports really matter.

2004
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 4: I think pro sports, home field, home court, home ice.

2005
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 4: We'll see now we've got a game seven in hockey

2006
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 4: tonight feel less important ever before.

2007
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: Oh, you're one on that. I mean, I mean college

2008
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: it's everything in the world. You can get upsets of

2009
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: twenty point underdogs and stuff like that. It seems like,

2010
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: you know, you work all hard in the regular season

2011
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 2: in the NBA, the NFL, the NFL, it makes a

2012
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 2: big difference. But the NHL. Then you lose one game

2013
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: and you know, six months down the drain get the

2014
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: number one seed. But you wanted to get a whole

2015
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 2: court advantager, correct home ice advantage.

2016
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 3: It's it's insane.

2017
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Celtics and the Knicks, though, I mean

2018
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 2: that's what the NBA needed. Though the Knicks zero to

2019
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 2: four against the Celtics. One game did go in the overtime,

2020
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: but I believe the other three. Celtics dominated them. But

2021
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 2: this isn't like number one against number eight, this is

2022
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: two against three. I think Knicks could put up a

2023
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 2: better effort. They're playing really good basketball, right That was

2024
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,799
Speaker 2: a great game six that they had against Detroit.

2025
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 4: You know, well, the thing about Boston is just how

2026
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 4: healthy they are, right Like it is Drew Holliday gonna play.

2027
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 4: He makes a huge difference for what that team can be.

2028
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 4: You know, how healthy is Jilan Brown? I mean there's

2029
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 4: questions I think about health there. Right If they're healthy,

2030
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 4: the Celtan they are healthy favorite there might have seven

2031
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 4: hundred right now to win the series. I mean, they're

2032
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 4: still a healthy favorite. The Knicks, I think to me,

2033
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 4: like you know, Cats was just consistent game to game,

2034
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 4: which is hard to sort of have your second best

2035
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 4: player be that consistent. Brunt is gonna give you allways

2036
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: got obviously, But the Celtics I think can throw again.

2037
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 4: If jew Holiday's healthy, you throw jew Holiday at at

2038
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 4: Brunson and you just try to swam down a little bit.

2039
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 4: I can't believe that the Pisses just didn't double Brunson

2040
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 4: and just say someone else beat us, anyone but Brunson Brunson,

2041
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 4: You're not beating us anyone, which is what you know

2042
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 4: the Rockets did. They blitzed Curry last night. They blitched

2043
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 4: them all serious and Curry still still went off, but

2044
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 4: it took him a long time to get in a rhythm.

2045
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that, and I think Boston will just

2046
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 4: sort of send guys over and over and over again

2047
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,839
Speaker 4: at Brunson and just make someone else, you know, make Bridges,

2048
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 4: who's again sort of been yeah.

2049
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 2: But I was just about to say Bridges had twenty

2050
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 2: five points, he was eleven and sixteen shooting, and that

2051
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 2: the only reason he missed five shots was three were

2052
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,919
Speaker 2: from three point range. And Onnobi had twenty two points,

2053
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 2: so that the Knicks are really.

2054
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 4: Well if you get yeah. But Bridge also had a

2055
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 4: game where he had eight this series, like if you

2056
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 4: can get yes, if you again, this is the thing

2057
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 4: about NBA playoffs. He actually two games with eight points

2058
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 4: in the series. Which is wild, is that if you

2059
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 4: if your role players gonna score twenty five points like Bridges,

2060
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna win most every game. You just all. I

2061
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,799
Speaker 4: know that it came down to the very end there,

2062
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: but I think if you're in Boston. You say we're not.

2063
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 4: Brunton's not scoring forty on us. That's not gonna happen.

2064
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 4: We'll let someone else try to get forty points. If

2065
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 4: we limit to brunt into twenty a game, are enough

2066
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: players around him gonna score enough points? And so far

2067
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 4: in the series, they've been up and down, and nobody's

2068
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 4: been probably okay for the most part. It's again, can

2069
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 4: cat play well? Not not follow?

2070
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Oh he had ten points, hey, Detroit. Detroit was up

2071
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: by seven. Yeah, with about two plus minutes left in

2072
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 2: the game. That's like a ninety chance of winning the

2073
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: game when you're up by seven.

2074
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. They just didn't even at the end. I mean,

2075
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 4: the shot Brunston hit was fair. I just don't know

2076
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 4: how you give them that much room. Well, he's better

2077
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 4: move on him, you know, I know, But you have

2078
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 4: to send a second player him, Just make anyone else

2079
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 4: shoot the ball.

2080
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 3: You got to take it out of his hands.

2081
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 2: You're right, especially when he had thirty seven at that

2082
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: point and he was just toasting everybody.

2083
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 4: Good man.

2084
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 2: He certainly didn't want to Yeah, he didn't want to

2085
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 2: go to a game number seven. There's there's no doubt

2086
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 2: about that. And they still won even with Towns only

2087
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 2: having ten points. It goes to show you when they're

2088
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 2: playing basketball like that. I think this Lakers Nick series

2089
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 2: actually be his Celtics next series gonna be.

2090
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 3: A lot closer than people are expecting.

2091
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 4: You know, again, the injury thing for Boston's real, Like

2092
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 4: Jew Holiday is so important to what they do. Oh,

2093
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 4: he's a guy you know, like uh, you know, I

2094
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 4: don't even know what he averages, like twelve, you know,

2095
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 4: six and six like that, But the defense man is

2096
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 4: so they run the offense to him sometimes. It's so important.

2097
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 4: And so I am sort of again curious to see

2098
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 4: the health of him. And if he is healthy again,

2099
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 4: this series feels a lot different. If he's not, it's

2100
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 4: gonna be a probably little little tougher I'm looking at

2101
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 4: it right now. I mean, Holiday is you know, he's yeah,

2102
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 4: he's it's the postseason, not the regular season. You know,

2103
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 4: he's a guy that you know, it's you know a lot. Yeah,

2104
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 4: having points and four rebounds and four assists, that that's

2105
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 4: what he is. And but it's a defense and just

2106
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 4: the vetter of leadership is so important from him.

2107
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, let's take a look

2108
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 2: at the other series. Also, we got a couple Game

2109
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Speaker 2: number sevens. We love Game sevens. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm

2110
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Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason

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2125
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2134
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Speaker 2: I wanted to bring this up as we were talking

2135
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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. He used to weigh get this, four hundred

2139
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 2: and sixty four pounds. Oh yeah, he's now down the

2140
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: four thirty seven. He lost twenty seven pounds. I don't

2141
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: know if you saw that story, how do you play

2142
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: it for sixty four? How did they not get him

2143
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: into shape before then? And really, I think they said

2144
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: that's the heaviest anybody's ever been drafted that that that's incredible.

2145
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 4: Right, He wasn't undrafted FRA agent, So I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2146
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 4: They end up signing The Bucks interestingly signed him as

2147
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 4: undrafted for agent, and I think they drafted Ted Johnson,

2148
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 4: Organ's wide receiver at one hundred and fifty four pounds,

2149
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 4: so they have the heaviest and the smallest player. Wow. Look, honestly,

2150
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 4: and I I hate to just sort of say this

2151
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 4: about a college player, but it's account of self accountability, right.

2152
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 4: You know the team will to do so much for you.

2153
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: You have to be able to eat correctly, essentially off

2154
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 4: the practice facility.

2155
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 3: Yea, that means you're eating everything is bad correct.

2156
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 4: And so like it's in college, I got a little heavy.

2157
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 4: I was. I was a little I played in NFL

2158
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 4: about three thirty five, three forty year in college. Got

2159
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 4: to three seventies a sophomore now around what I played.

2160
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 4: I've always been this big. I was just picking in

2161
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 4: high school. It was three hundred fifty five pounds when

2162
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 4: I showed up to Orgon without even lifting weights. It

2163
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 4: just always this big. And I played three sports in

2164
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 4: high school. I've been active whatever. So I gained thirty pounds.

2165
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 4: I was not happy with it, and we had no one,

2166
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 4: an organ to tell me to do different. We didn't

2167
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 4: have a full time nutrition It's back then. It's a

2168
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 4: different time than now. There was no real post practice

2169
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 4: smoothies and tailored meals, all those things, and so I

2170
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 4: just decided one off season I had to lose weight,

2171
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 4: and I just did it on my own. I didn't

2172
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 4: know how to do it. I basically came home from

2173
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 4: school and workouts every day at I don't know, six

2174
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 4: seven o'clock and went to my gam my apartment complex

2175
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 4: and worked out again. And I just figured out how

2176
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 4: to lost thirty pounds by myself gone off season. You

2177
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 4: have to just do it yourself sometimes, and for him

2178
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: to make those those life changes, it's trd I love

2179
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 4: to eat. Trusting me, It's like I struggle with it

2180
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 4: all the time where I'm just hungry. I want to eat,

2181
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's head hunger. It's not just actual it's

2182
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 4: not physical hunger. And you have to be able to

2183
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 4: sort of push through that. So hopefully now that he's

2184
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,560
Speaker 4: in the NFL, he's able to sort of find a

2185
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 4: way to make sure that to keep his weight down

2186
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 4: on his.

2187
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Own, he's got to lose like one hundred more pounds, right,

2188
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 2: He's got to be at way.

2189
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 3: You can't lose one hundred pounds like that.

2190
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,919
Speaker 4: Probably it's probably gonna have to lose one hundred pounds

2191
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 4: to play.

2192
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 3: What to have this guy that you played like, was

2193
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 3: it will Vince Wolf?

2194
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Him or Casey Hampton.

2195
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 3: Maybe the fridge refrigerator, Perry was pretty big.

2196
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm not that old. No, the fridge I know, but

2197
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 4: the fridge wasn't that big though, he wasn't.

2198
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

2199
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 4: That thing about it is that is that he wasn't

2200
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 4: that big. He's like three hundred pounds. It's just for

2201
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 4: that era, he was.

2202
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: Huge, right right, right, It's it's just amazing because we're

2203
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, getting into shape and here's a

2204
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 2: guy that's four hundred and sixty four. Never seen that before.

2205
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I think I sent you a picture.

2206
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 2: It's making the media rounds.

2207
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 5: All.

2208
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

2209
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 4: He was six three I'm sorry looking at that's what.

2210
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what refrigera was six three three thirty,

2211
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 4: which is not that's big for that era. That's not

2212
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 4: anything now you'd be like, oh, yeah, that's like a

2213
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 4: that's a guard like that's I mean, you know, Vitavea

2214
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 4: is probably what six three three fifty. I mean wow, yeah,

2215
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 4: he's and he's nimble and moves well, I mean yeah,

2216
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 4: six four three fifty like that. It's not that's not

2217
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 4: big big for then? Was it not big for now?

2218
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 2: Did you see the pictures of Travis Kelcey making the rounds?

2219
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: Does he look fat to you? Does he look out

2220
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 2: of shape? I couldn't tell you. He was worrying, like

2221
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 2: this big white sweater that that covered him. I don't know,

2222
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 2: maybe it showed in his face or something, but he

2223
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: didn't look that much bigger. I don't know how people

2224
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 2: could tell they're making such a big deal about it,

2225
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 2: you know.

2226
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 4: I think people try to find ways to be haters,

2227
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 4: and it's uh, lox chuck, that's May third. The first

2228
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 4: game is four months from now. That Traviser forgot the

2229
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 4: way to be in shape and to be fair me

2230
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 4: for me, like round is a shape too, Yes, that's fair.

2231
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 4: Not for Travis.

2232
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: Travis.

2233
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 4: Look, man, he he lived a different life than the

2234
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 4: rest of us. He's earned that life, obviously, why he's

2235
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 4: being a Hall of Famers. He's obviously his his his

2236
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 4: girlfriend is the most famous woman maybe on the planet. Like,

2237
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 4: he lives different life the rest of us, and so

2238
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 4: I think he enjoys that life a lot. And part

2239
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 4: of the life I think I would imagine it's eating

2240
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 4: some really good food a lot of times, you know, uh,

2241
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 4: and it's okay. You know, look old you get obviously,

2242
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 4: the harder it is to keep your figure. I'm unconcerned

2243
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 4: about Travis Kelsey. That feels like a guy did not

2244
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 4: worry about whether or not he's in shape on May third.

2245
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're my neighbor. By the way.

2246
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that there are money. Well,

2247
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 2: they're really four hours away.

2248
01:46:58,479 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 3: I live in Vermont. They live in Maine.

2249
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 2: So Travis Kelsey and Taylor Smith really. Yeah, she has

2250
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 2: a place in Maine that's like a castle.

2251
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: They're like the furthest way from anyone else.

2252
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is gorgeous, Jeff, it is unbelievable. It's right

2253
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 2: there on the water. You can't like, you can't access

2254
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: her through the water. It's total privacy, you know.

2255
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 5: What I mean.

2256
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 3: You can't run into her on the beach or anything

2257
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 3: like that.

2258
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're probably not going to catch me much

2259
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 4: in Maine. I have enjoyed. I did it. It was

2260
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 4: in Portland for a couple of days doing a food.

2261
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 3: Show once Partland Maine you're talking about.

2262
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh, it was nice. And I

2263
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 4: was also there like in the Nice Party the year.

2264
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2265
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 2: It's it's gorgeous out here in the Northeast, and more

2266
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: and more people love coming.

2267
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were in Oregon.

2268
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: It's not like it's a hotbed up there, you know

2269
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 2: what I mean?

2270
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 3: It's that's true, that's true.

2271
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh, we got a couple of Game sevens though, the

2272
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: Clippers and the Nuggets later on tonight, that series tied

2273
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: in three games. Apiece been already entertaining. Denver is going

2274
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: to be at home. They're only a point and a

2275
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: half favorite. So what they're telling you is, I mean,

2276
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a coin flip game. Clippers probably

2277
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 2: the better team on a neutral four Clippers probably a

2278
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 2: point favorite at home. Clippers probably about a four point favorite.

2279
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: Who do you like in this game?

2280
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 3: Who you're rooting for?

2281
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 2: Who's the team you'd like to see advance? I guess

2282
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 2: the Clippers would probably be a better story than the

2283
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 2: Nuggets advancing right now?

2284
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 4: You know, so you are from Los Angeles, Yes, I'm

2285
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 4: from Los Angeles.

2286
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 3: Well, originally in New York, but I lived to know

2287
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 3: a Yes.

2288
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 4: This is the Los Angeles Clippers we're talking about. Yes,

2289
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,839
Speaker 4: who won this game zero times ever in the Frenchericks history,

2290
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 4: so I obviously Balmer has changed the franchise. They have

2291
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 4: their own arena, which it never well, they guess they

2292
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 4: had sports arena. Take it back, they had the sports Arena,

2293
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 4: which if you're ever the sports arena, good for you.

2294
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 4: I never recommend that experience. I there, tickets were so cheap.

2295
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 4: I want as munch as a kid. He says, to

2296
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 4: make sure to not turn down the wrong road as

2297
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 4: you as you headed over there. Yeah, and you know

2298
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 4: they were they were third billing at Staple Center, right,

2299
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 4: it was the Lakers and the Kings were second billing,

2300
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 4: and then obviously the Clippers. So Balmer's really changed the franchise.

2301
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 4: But opening up into a doma, that place looks a

2302
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 4: lot of fun. I've not been there yet, so he's

2303
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 4: changing the franchise absolutely, But that Clippers, you know, sort

2304
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 4: of like history will creep up on the franchise a

2305
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:34,480
Speaker 4: lot of times, and so can they overcome that? Essentially?

2306
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 4: Tonight's right, can they overcome years and years and years

2307
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 4: of being the Clippers? They're the better team. I'm with

2308
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 4: you there, But it's game seven. Also, you know, the

2309
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 4: question becomes like do we get game seven hard tonight? Uh,

2310
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 4: he's looked a little tire last game. Yep, it's game seven, like,

2311
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 4: so we have Clippers old trauma we got James Harden trauma,

2312
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 4: but we also have Russell Westbrook on the other side.

2313
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 4: Who can win and lose a game in the same time.

2314
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 4: Is Jamal Murray gonna gonna play that well again for

2315
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 4: the second straight actually a third straight game.

2316
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 2: Home teams usually, I mean you look at is a

2317
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: point in that favo. This has to be one of

2318
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 2: the best bets in sports right now. Nuggets at home

2319
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: minus one and a half.

2320
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, best bet is I don't know if that's a

2321
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 4: best bet per se, but I like not gonna start

2322
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 4: fast today, and so look, I think in the end

2323
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 4: the Clippers are probably if they get James hard and

2324
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard playing to their abilities, they're gonna win this game.

2325
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 4: If one of those two guys plays a little bit

2326
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 4: less and they than their abilities, it'd be tough. If

2327
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray comes back to Earth a little bit. It

2328
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 4: feels like hard for the Nuggets. Okay, Westbrook can be

2329
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 4: great or bad. He said twenty one and fourteen the

2330
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 4: last two games, and he had they had three points

2331
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 4: in game game four. Scuse me, game three. It looks

2332
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 4: like so I'll wi go forward to tonight. I lean

2333
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 4: toward the home team ever so slightly, but I will

2334
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 4: say I think the Clippers are better. That doesn't be

2335
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 4: gonna win this game though.

2336
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 2: We had another Game seven Warriors and the Rockets. Jeez,

2337
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 2: we already have the Lakers eliminated? Can we have the

2338
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: Warriors eliminated?

2339
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 3: Also?

2340
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 2: The Rockets three and a half point favorites of this round.

2341
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, the total just two toh one,

2342
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 2: so they're not expecting a high scoring game.

2343
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 3: Stephan.

2344
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 2: The guys kind of rested when they knew they were

2345
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: getting clabbered in Game six. This looks like a Rockets game.

2346
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm shocked at the Warriors are gonna get thrown out

2347
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,799
Speaker 2: and be eliminated after they had that lead in this series.

2348
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 4: So last night's game was rather shocking to me. Houston

2349
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 4: goes to Golden State and wins, and comfortably they were

2350
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 4: pretty much ahead the entire game. He got close every

2351
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 4: now and then. Part of success in the NBA is

2352
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 4: having done it before, right, right, And that's why I

2353
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 4: think some people were a little timid about Okac. Is like,

2354
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 4: very talented team, great team, best point differential in the

2355
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 4: NBA season in history, but they haven't done it yet, right,

2356
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 4: and they're young and a lot of times your core

2357
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 4: players have to be like twenty seven or above age

2358
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 4: to win a championship. Look look around the NBA. Look

2359
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 4: what Steph Curry went for a championship. Lebron Jordan, like

2360
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 4: all these guys, it's like twenty seven and up. Okayse

2361
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 4: he's super young. Houston has not been in this spot yet,

2362
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 4: and they look like the team last night who was

2363
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 4: playing carefree, who's played without worry. Obviously, the worst team

2364
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 4: is not the team of the past. But Steph Curry's

2365
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 4: been there before. He started slow, but he finished faster.

2366
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler's been there before, not in this capacity, but

2367
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 4: he's played big playoff gains before. Dreymond Green obviously, and

2368
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Houston played better. They look like a team unafraid. Especially

2369
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 4: during the game. Steph Crey had four turner overs and a

2370
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 4: half time. Tradman had four unervers a half time. The

2371
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 4: role players for the Warriors, who typically again home games

2372
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 4: you play better on the role players non existent last night.

2373
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 4: I went to bed, so I was gonna ask you.

2374
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 4: I went to bed last night before the game was over.

2375
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 4: I've obviously seen the highlights. I've seen the end of

2376
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 4: the game, but I was asking you to heal. I

2377
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 4: was gonna say he'll he'll even score when I went

2378
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 4: to many zero points, Yeah, like those are you can't

2379
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 4: have that and win. So I was more impressed with

2380
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 4: the Rockets last night, who I thought played with extreme

2381
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 4: intensity and confidence, which you don't see in a young

2382
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 4: team on the road in a game they have to win,

2383
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 4: and so I think they win Game seven. I think

2384
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 4: they come back and win Game seven. They're at home.

2385
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 4: They're going to be super confident after winning that game.

2386
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 4: If Jalen Green, he gave him a little bit something

2387
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 4: more than he's been given him too. He's not been

2388
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 4: on this series at all. Fred van Fleet has been

2389
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 4: very consistent in this series, like they look like the

2390
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 4: better team right now. Now. Can Steph Curry have a

2391
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 4: forty pointer? Sure, but they're gonna they're just gonna blit

2392
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 4: Steph Curry as soon gets the boy, gonna blitz them

2393
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 4: and say someone else do it, someone makes them. Moody

2394
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 4: makes some shots. Posensky. I can't mamet out his name,

2395
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 4: but can you make a shot, buddy, Like, can you do?

2396
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 4: They're gonna let everyone else do it. They're gonna force

2397
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 4: Raamon Green to try to be a part of the

2398
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 4: offensive of rhythm. So I'm in the Rockets win Game seven.

2399
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 4: I like what I see in them. I was super

2400
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 4: impressed last night. That's a very very tough spot to

2401
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 4: be traditionally a spot where team like Houston loses.

2402
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, tell you well, we'll get to our picks.

2403
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,480
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2404
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2405
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2407
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Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio app and we'll be always popping up at

2412
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:02,839
Speaker 2: the top of your screen.

2413
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 3: We'll come back.

2414
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: Got's officially get to some picks on some of these

2415
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: series in those two game sevens against the line, all

2416
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 2: that coming up next right here on Fox Sports our Radio.

2417
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 2: All right, final segment of the show just flew on

2418
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 2: by Big Plans after the show today, Jeff for what

2419
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 2: what's going on?

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01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 4: Uh? Kids? Sports? We got I just I got dressed

2421
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 4: in the break like we gotta go. We got softball,

2422
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 4: we got baseball, like we got we got games. Nine am,

2423
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: we gotta back to I'll beat the field from like

2424
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 4: eight to twelve. We got Oh wow, I like it though,

2425
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 4: but we got we got games. They've got practiced. So uh,

2426
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 4: just got my kids up and we were play last

2427
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 4: night for the minor league baseball game. But uh, we'll

2428
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 4: be ready to go. Man, we got we let's go.

2429
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 3: Why do you, by the way, why do you live

2430
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 3: in the Carolinas?

2431
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

2432
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said where you have. I don't want

2433
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 3: people to come down.

2434
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 4: To the living Charlotte, no one.

2435
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 2: Why why did you move down there instead of going

2436
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 2: back to the Pacific Palisades.

2437
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 4: Or La or to be fair, from Pacific Palisades. Okay,

2438
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 4: I would move back there because it's awesome here. I don't.

2439
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 3: It's expensive in La too, that's for sure.

2440
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 4: I was drafted here about my wife here like I

2441
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 4: love it and Charlotte, it's a great place to be. Yeah.

2442
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: By the way, are you a Kentucky Derby guy? Are

2443
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 2: you going to be taking a look at the derby?

2444
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 2: You're not really a derby guy.

2445
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 4: I will watch it tonight. I have I work with

2446
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 4: Chris Filika, the Bear Right and Cross Game Day now

2447
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 4: on being ni Ka GoF We love him. We do

2448
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 4: a podcast together, so he texts me what to wag

2449
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 4: draw on. So that's what I'm doing.

2450
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll give you one horse.

2451
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 2: I know nothing about the horse racing, and you know,

2452
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 2: I'll pretend I do like everybody else. But this girl

2453
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 2: I knew from Phoenix, Arizona, who now this was like

2454
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 2: thirty years ago. She got married at her and her

2455
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 2: husband now they must be super rich own Sandman the

2456
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 2: third favorite. Okay, the Kentucky Derby, but it's racing from

2457
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 2: gate number seventeen.

2458
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 3: But they're six to one, one of the favorites in

2459
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 3: the Yeah.

2460
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 4: But the gates now they used to have that extension

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01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 4: that made the like the last six gates even further away,

2462
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 4: but now they just it's one whole piece. Oh yeah,

2463
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 4: So it's not as big of a deal now with

2464
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 4: horses starting on the outside. So a lot of fun

2465
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 4: to watch though, I'll tell you that.

2466
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:24,839
Speaker 3: That's good to know. I had no idea.

2467
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 4: I have like a trifecta that Bear sent to me,

2468
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know We'll see what happens. Hopefully I win.

2469
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2470
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 4: I want we want to race yesterday. I want a

2471
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 4: twelve to one. I won of the race yesterday and

2472
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna like, I don't know. I'll check my

2473
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 4: account when it's over and see if I have won.

2474
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

2475
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 2: Will you be drinking a mint, Julip while you are?

2476
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 2: Those are horrible. I heard they're just miserable drink.

2477
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 3: I never have.

2478
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clippers Nuggets Game seven tonight Denver one and a

2479
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 2: half point favorites over under of two oh six. You mentioned,

2480
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: as we brought up earlier. Usually Game sevens go to

2481
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: the home team. Nuggets are certainly an experienced team NBA champions.

2482
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 3: Why not take Denver minus to one and a half

2483
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 3: and probably the over two oh six. How do you

2484
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 3: see that game, Jeff? What do you think?

2485
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 4: I like the under? First of all, okay, I think

2486
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 4: this is these games tend to be a little bit tighter.

2487
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 4: I just I know the nugget the Nuggets last year.

2488
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 4: Remember Game seven home against the Wolves got blasted last year,

2489
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 4: And I wonder if that's in the back of their minds,

2490
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 4: like we're not gonna let this happen again, and I

2491
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 4: do have questions about about Harden's ability to play well

2492
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 4: in this big moment. The role players for the Clippers.

2493
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 4: How good are they gonna play on the road in

2494
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 4: Game seven, I would lean toward Nuggets here. I do

2495
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 4: like the under morning anything else, I lean toward Nuggets here.

2496
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:52,839
Speaker 4: Nothing big on this one.

2497
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 2: All right, Warriors Rockets. You were saying who you liked

2498
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 2: before the break? Houston, though, three and a half point favorites.

2499
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 2: That's not a lot of number. They're over under two

2500
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 2: one and a half. You take it the other in

2501
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 2: this one also, Jeff.

2502
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 4: That's an interesting number there. Number? Uh was it three?

2503
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 4: Three and a half?

2504
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 2: Three and a half for the Rockets? Three to that

2505
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 2: point favorite over the war I gotta take the Warriors.

2506
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 4: I might take. I think Rockets win, but I would

2507
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 4: take three and a half the wait. Look the way

2508
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 4: you play this, I think is if you like the Rockets,

2509
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 4: you just wait in game take a better number. If

2510
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 4: you get one. I mean, the Warriors start fast and

2511
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 4: it's a twelve to seven lead for them. The Rockets

2512
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 4: will come down to a point or two like the

2513
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 4: the you know, take the Rockets like then, I think

2514
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 4: that three and a half is probably too much delay

2515
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 4: on the Rockets in this moment. But I do win

2516
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 4: the game. I just wait for a better number.

2517
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk series. Pacers Cavaliers. They start tonight tomorrow.

2518
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 4: I like cows.

2519
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you like the Calves in that one man? And

2520
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 3: what about the Knicks and the Celtics. How's that one

2521
01:59:58,280 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 3: going to turn out?

2522
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 4: I the Celtic probably win in five, so that easy.

2523
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 3: Nick's not even gonna put up a better fight than that, huh.

2524
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 4: I mean the games might be close. I think Boston's

2525
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 4: just much better. The health of Holiday is a huge

2526
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 4: important here. That might change my pain if he doesn't

2527
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 4: play in the series.

2528
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that series, that could be a difference maker. Jeff,

2529
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 2: it was a pleasure quick show today. Always keep working

2530
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 2: for you, so working with you, excuse me. So I

2531
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 2: was glad that we were able to do it together.

2532
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 2: Two former palis Ades High school kids having a little

2533
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 2: fun on Fox Sports Radio. I want to thank the crew. Also,

2534
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 2: thanks Debrie, and thanks to Mark, and also thanks to

2535
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 2: the fellas Gargano and Jason Fitz for letting us fill in.

2536
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 2: I'll be back for one more hour here on Fox

2537
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Ah, good morning everybody. It's kind of like the bonus

2540
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 2: hour of the show. Jeff Schwartz is gone. Now we

2541
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 2: had stuff to do, and we brought in Jared Smith

2542
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 2: for the bone. It's our Arnie Span you're writer on

2543
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're in for the fellas, Anthony Gargano

2544
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 2: and Jason fitz As. We're broadcasting live from Fox Sports

2545
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. How you doing, Jared tikes for getting up

2546
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 2: on this early morning.

2547
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 5: Oh, well, usually I'm up around this time anyways. So

2548
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 5: it is awesome to be here. And this is a

2549
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 5: This is actually one of my favorite Saturdays of the year.

2550
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 5: It's Derby Day. Oh so it's a very exciting sports Saturday.

2551
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 2: I would say you're a big Kentucky because I asked

2552
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 2: Jeff ive was are you a big Kentucky Derby guy

2553
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 2: or what?

2554
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 5: I would be lying if I said, I'm really into

2555
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 5: the ponies like heavy. I will say this though, there

2556
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 5: was a dark time during the pandemic when there were

2557
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 5: no sports going on right, and I would wake up

2558
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,080
Speaker 5: every day and I would bet golf stream and then

2559
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 5: I would wait and I'd bet. You know, Anita, you

2560
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 5: know Santa Anita and and Golden Gate later on in

2561
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 5: the day, and those were again very you know, difficult

2562
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 5: times in the sports world. I don't bet horses often.

2563
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 5: I usually bet them this time and then you know,

2564
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 5: in another couple of weeks we'll get the break this

2565
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 5: and depending on how things go and those two races

2566
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 5: mainly today, Like I usually budget a few hundred bucks

2567
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 5: for horse racing for the year and if I if

2568
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 5: I blow it all today, then it's probably done.

2569
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2570
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 2: I told Jeff before you came on that this girl

2571
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 2: I know her and her husband own Sandman.

2572
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 3: Which is wow. Yeah, they must be rich. I'm just guessing.

2573
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they they're the third Sandman's the third favorite

2574
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 2: in the Kentucky w I think it's six to one

2575
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 2: or something like that. So I'm not you know, I'm

2576
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 2: not a big horse racing guy, but I'll probably put

2577
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 2: down a few shehut GOLs on it.

2578
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:33,160
Speaker 3: How could you not?

2579
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 5: You have to the derby. If you're gonna bet one

2580
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 5: horse race the entire year, this is really the one, Like,

2581
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 5: this is really the one. And also because of how

2582
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 5: many horses run, typically you get a long shot, like

2583
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 5: there was an eighty to one that won a couple

2584
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 5: of years ago. Recently, I think, actually I think more.

2585
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 5: I think last year there was there was a long shot,

2586
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 5: like you get long shots in this race.

2587
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 3: Like Jacomo Right Jockey nineteen horse field.

2588
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 5: Today you know they might add another one, but so

2589
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 5: you do get some opportunities to make that money.

2590
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 2: A quick just a quick, real, real quick horse racing story.

2591
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 2: A buddy of mine was going into the army. We

2592
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 2: had no money. We wanted to go out partying that night,

2593
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 2: so I said, hey, let's go to the track. We'll

2594
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 2: see if we can win somebody and we'll go party.

2595
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 2: We did the pick three and we want it, and

2596
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 2: he goes, how much should we win? I go, I

2597
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 2: don't know, half of the pick six maybe, and the

2598
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 2: pick six would run maybe fifty thousand, one hundred thousand,

2599
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 2: maybe more than that. I go, we're rich, dude, We're

2600
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna party like rock stars tonight. We go collect their

2601
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 2: money and I think it was like one hundred and

2602
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars, and I said to the lady, is

2603
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 2: the rest going to be in the check?

2604
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 3: She goes, that's all you get, honey. Everybody else behind.

2605
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 2: You they had the same ones three favorites came in,

2606
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 2: so that's all you get there.

2607
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 3: I was expecting big money, Jared, I.

2608
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 5: Was holding because it's a paramutual, you know, rate like

2609
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 5: it's unlike other I always tell people, especially this time

2610
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 5: of here. You know, I give out gambling advice for

2611
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 5: a living. This is a horse racing is a very

2612
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 5: unique worth to bet. I would say it's the most

2613
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 5: unique sport to bet because it's paramutual. So you could

2614
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:06,840
Speaker 5: bet a horse yesterday three to one and it goes

2615
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 5: off today at even odds and you're like, wait, what

2616
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 5: just happened? Well, all the money gets pulled together and

2617
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 5: you don't actually know what you make until after the

2618
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 5: odds close. So it's it's a very unique way to bet.

2619
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:21,480
Speaker 5: And of course they have these like unique way like

2620
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 5: exotics as they call them, like exact a trifecta, Like

2621
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 5: you have to kind of educate yourself a little bit.

2622
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 3: It's like a new language, right right, no doubt?

2623
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking about gambling, the Lakers are out.

2624
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 2: Everybody loves betting the Lakers. What happens now?

2625
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 3: What did you think of them getting eliminated in five?

2626
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 2: And do you know anybody that put any big money

2627
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 2: on Minnesota to win that series. What would you've gotten

2628
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 2: on Minnesota to win that series beforehand? What five to

2629
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 2: one or something like that, six to one I'm imagining.

2630
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 5: No, I think that I thought the Tea Wolves were

2631
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 5: favored to win the series. I actually don't know. I

2632
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 5: forget what the rest on the top of my mouth. Yeah, well,

2633
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is with the Lakers.

2634
02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is people don't trust

2635
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 5: them long term. I think that's the key, Like in

2636
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 5: a one game and this is how I felt about

2637
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 5: the Lakers going into this series. In a one game

2638
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 5: roll of the dice. I want Luca and Lebron. I

2639
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 5: think that is obvious to most, you know, average basketball

2640
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 5: fans and even the ones that are really in the know, Like,

2641
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 5: if you give me a game seven, I'll take Luca

2642
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 5: Lebron over anyone else. But you have to get to

2643
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 5: a game seven. And that is where I think the

2644
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 5: Lakers fall short in this roster construction. They are not

2645
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 5: built for a long haul. They're built for a one game,

2646
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 5: you know, They're built for the short term. Luca, like

2647
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 5: at the end of the series, I could barely move.

2648
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 5: Lebron obviously was playing through some things. I think everyone's

2649
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 5: playing through some things. Go look at what Steph Curry's

2650
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 5: going through right now with the rockets swiping down on

2651
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 5: his hand. Every singles a.

2652
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 3: Better roster than the Lakers.

2653
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 5: Are they I think, I honestly think because of what

2654
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 5: they did last year and because of Anthony Edwards kind

2655
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 5: of right now, I would say, being kind of like

2656
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 5: the face of the league. Yeah, I think that te

2657
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 5: Wolves roster is pretty decent, and I think they are.

2658
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're equipped to make it to

2659
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 5: the finals, but they are absolutely a force.

2660
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 2: More people are saying that the Lakers. You know, why

2661
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 2: did the Lakers lose? Nobody's giving Minnesota credit. Fract You're

2662
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 2: winning the series. Everybody talking what did the Lakers do

2663
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 2: wrong to lose the series?

2664
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 4: You know.

2665
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it too is we get

2666
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 5: to a certain point in Lebron's career and we just

2667
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 5: expect greatness. I think we've I think we need to

2668
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 5: temper our expectations with with what the Lakers are at

2669
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 5: this point, and that really is I mean, they were

2670
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 5: they were never constructed to win a championship the way

2671
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 5: that they are. They have no they have no interior size,

2672
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 5: no interior defense. And the postseason in the NBA. You

2673
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 5: think the regular season is long, postseason is really long.

2674
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 5: Like it is a long postseason. You gotta win four

2675
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 5: out of seven, four seven, four out of seven, four

2676
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 5: out of seven, and I just don't think the Lakers

2677
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 5: were constructed to do that. I think the Lakers were

2678
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 5: constructed to win a best of three against one team.

2679
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:12,120
Speaker 5: And that's kind of like who they are right now.

2680
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:15,160
Speaker 5: Is it like they have a very high ceiling, but

2681
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 5: the floor is low. And when you stretch that, you know,

2682
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 5: series out over long period of time, it really shows,

2683
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 5: you know, being.

2684
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 2: A Vegas guy that you are. I'm curious to see

2685
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 2: what you're gonna answer this one. Where do the Lakers

2686
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 2: and Lebron go from here? And the reason I say

2687
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 2: that is, is there any chance Lebron says, I'm gonna

2688
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 2: play one more year with the Lakers, then I'm gonna

2689
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 2: go to Vegas start that new team. I'm gonna be

2690
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 2: the owners slash player, and I'm gonna play with my

2691
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 2: two kids.

2692
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 3: Because what is it?

2693
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Bryce will be eligible in twenty twenty six. I mean,

2694
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a team, right that's gonna happen.

2695
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm assuming so, right, I think Vegas and Seattle like that.

2696
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 5: That kind of feels like the two spots.

2697
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,960
Speaker 2: And Lebron's gonna be the owner or Clutch Sports or

2698
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:56,840
Speaker 2: whoever or what.

2699
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 5: I could see that scenario playing out. I think the

2700
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 5: reason he moved to la And again I'm just I

2701
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,840
Speaker 5: don't know him personally, obviously, I'm just speculating. Here is

2702
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 5: the Hollywood vibe, like he wants to be involved of course,

2703
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 5: you know, movies and all that stuff, entertainment whatever you know,

2704
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 5: words you want to use to describe the media these days,

2705
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 5: Like that is where he wants to be because I

2706
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,280
Speaker 5: think he's a very forward thinking individual and he knows

2707
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 5: he's not going to play forever, nor does he want to, right,

2708
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know if that is his goal,

2709
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 5: Like if he wants to own a team and he

2710
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 5: wants to have his sons as part of his ownership group,

2711
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 5: part of the team, part of the vibe, Yeah, I

2712
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 5: could see that happening. I just I know that there's

2713
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 5: a lot like a Rod just went through this with

2714
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 5: with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Like, right, it's not easy to

2715
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 5: own a team. Now, granted that was a sale of

2716
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 5: a team, so that was a little bit of different circumstances.

2717
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 5: This would be a new expansion team, so I don't

2718
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 5: know if that changes the dynamic, but it it. There's

2719
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 5: a lot of corporate red tape involved in that, and

2720
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:00,440
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna be able to do it alone.

2721
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 5: You don't have to do it with partners. So that's

2722
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 5: an interesting path that I never thought of, but I

2723
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 5: could see it.

2724
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, you said it's not easy to own the team.

2725
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 2: I told Jeff this, you know, because we went to

2726
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,760
Speaker 2: the same high school. You know I could have owned

2727
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 2: the Lakers. I didn't know if you know that I

2728
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 2: could have owned the Lakers. Wow, you didn't know that.

2729
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 5: I did not know that.

2730
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I know.

2731
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 5: I know you get own the Packers. He can just

2732
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 5: buy a couple of shares.

2733
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you think I'm kidding.

2734
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 2: I went to high school, as I said, with Jeff,

2735
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 2: and also Genie Buss, so I was I was a good.

2736
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 5: Looking I told stories about Jeanie Buss.

2737
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm a good looking guy. All I had to do

2738
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 2: was ask Genie out. She would have fell in love

2739
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 2: with me. We would have gotten married, and then I

2740
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 2: don't have to team, right, I'm sure there would have

2741
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 2: been no pre number anything.

2742
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:41,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2743
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's always easy, right, Like I know Bill

2744
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 5: Belichick and jord Hudson are going, yeah, yes, right now,

2745
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 5: you just buy right into the family.

2746
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 2: You know, Genie and Jenny and Jimmy, the three of

2747
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 2: them all went to Palisades. I'll never forget because I

2748
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 2: told the story earlier. I remember I was sitting outside

2749
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 2: with the basketball coach. My coach and Genie walked by,

2750
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 2: and the coach said, the Genie, did your dad buy

2751
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,840
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers? And she said no, no, he's saving

2752
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 2: his money for the Lakers. And I went and I went,

2753
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 2: shut up, GENI, who's your dad gonna go buy the Lakers?

2754
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 2: Of course, you know it's they buy the Lakers. But interesting,

2755
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people know that maybe

2756
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers were the first team he was interested in buying,

2757
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 2: and he backed off and waited for the Lakers.

2758
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know that. So I'm not so

2759
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 5: the NBA, I would say, like, is not like the

2760
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 5: sport that I am as invested in today as I

2761
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 5: was maybe twenty years So I'm a Knicks fan, Uh,

2762
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 5: twenty years ago. I mean even I would say more

2763
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 5: closer to thirty years ago when I was you know,

2764
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 5: in my younger, younger days, that's when I was really

2765
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 5: in the NBA. The NBA at this stage is a

2766
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 5: very tough watch night in, night out. It's a very

2767
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 5: tough bet, I think, because we don't know who's playing

2768
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 5: half the time. It's not a sport in this current

2769
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 5: regular season construction postseason is obviously different that I feel

2770
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 5: like I need to be invested in every day because

2771
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 5: it's just it's such a difficult sport to run your

2772
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 5: head around night in night out.

2773
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 3: No, there's no matter of fact.

2774
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm a Knicks fan also, and they're playing the Celtics

2775
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 2: obviously Game one. What are the odds on that? Everybody's

2776
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 2: nobody's giving the Knicks a chance in this one? All

2777
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 2: I know they were zero to four against the Celtics.

2778
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 2: Last game was in overtime. The other three I believe

2779
02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 2: we're all blowouts, so they really didn't stand much of

2780
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 2: a chance. I don't know if Brunson missed one of

2781
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 2: those blog games. I don't have the dates in front

2782
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 2: of me, but the Knicks have to be what like

2783
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 2: four to one, five to one under Dames in this one,

2784
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: something like.

2785
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Celtics or minus eight hundred currently wow, wow, I

2786
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 5: mean it's cheese. Yeah. And actually so the Calves are

2787
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 5: minus five hundred, So the Calves are pretty big favorite

2788
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 5: two over the Pacers. I actually think that should be flipped.

2789
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 5: I think as good as the Celtics are, I think

2790
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 5: that is the series that I could see being a

2791
02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 5: lot closer. The Calves right now, I look like the

2792
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 5: best team in these now. I don't think they're gonna

2793
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 5: win the Eastern Conference. I think eventually Boston will kind

2794
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 5: of catch them and you know, raise their level. And

2795
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if the Calves can maintain this level

2796
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 5: throughout the entire postseason. But right now, eye test wise,

2797
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 5: Boston's you know, dropped the game to Orlando, looked a

2798
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:20,240
Speaker 5: little bit baulky at times. Right you got a couple

2799
02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 5: of injuries. You got Tatum with the Risks, you got

2800
02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:24,440
Speaker 5: Chris STAPs Porzingis, you know, he's like a walking injury.

2801
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 5: He had that weird gash on his head. The Calves

2802
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 5: right now look like a dominant force. So I think

2803
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 5: the Calves should be minus eight hundred and the Celtics

2804
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 5: should be minus five hundred. But right now the market's

2805
02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 5: telling you that the Boston series is not going to

2806
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 5: be a very tight series.

2807
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 3: No, it isn't.

2808
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking you if you like the Knicks obviously

2809
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 2: have to take a game individually each game, and you know,

2810
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:48,600
Speaker 2: betting them to win the series, that's going to be

2811
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 2: a tough chore. That's good though, the way they live

2812
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 2: in game six, Yeah, you wouldn't bet that at all.

2813
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,120
Speaker 5: I would bet them to I would bet them to

2814
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 5: cover the series spread. So you can bet the Knicks

2815
02:12:56,360 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 5: plus two and a half games even on Yeah, so

2816
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:05,520
Speaker 5: you can basically bet it's basically Celtics in six or seven.

2817
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 5: Now you can also bet Celtics in six, which is

2818
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 5: an interesting bet at plus four hundred. I actually I

2819
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 5: actually kind of like that bet. And yet Nix plus

2820
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 5: two and a half games is another intriguing one.

2821
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 2: I would say, Wow, I had no idea you could

2822
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 2: do something like that. Now we do have a couple

2823
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 2: of game sevens. What's your theory on game sevens? You know,

2824
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 2: usually I like to take the over in the first

2825
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 2: quarters because I feel people don't like the foul. They'll

2826
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 2: give you the free bucket, they'll give you the free layup,

2827
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 2: maybe even the open shot, just so they don't pick

2828
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 2: up that foul and they have to go to the

2829
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 2: bench or next thing, you know, they got two fouls

2830
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 2: and they can only pick up one more in the

2831
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 2: first half. But overall game sevens, are you a home

2832
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 2: team guy or because Denver only a point and a

2833
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 2: half favorite at home over the Clippers, you would think.

2834
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:50,520
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good bargain there.

2835
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:54,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the way game sevens are interesting because you

2836
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 5: get six games of data in that series to kind

2837
02:13:57,080 --> 02:14:00,280
Speaker 5: of base your handicap off. I will say this, the

2838
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:05,440
Speaker 5: overall trend says under unders are like sixty three percent

2839
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:09,720
Speaker 5: in the NBA in game sevens, thirty nine and twenty

2840
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:11,760
Speaker 5: four since two thousand and four, So it's like sixty

2841
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:16,520
Speaker 5: two percent. But the market I think is becoming a

2842
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:21,839
Speaker 5: little bit more sophisticated with you know, handicapping this number

2843
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 5: and what I say by the number. So let's take

2844
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 5: the Clippers Nugget series for example. Yeah, these two teams

2845
02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:32,040
Speaker 5: have played six games. Now, the total in game one

2846
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 5: was two twenty five, like significantly higher than what it

2847
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:42,320
Speaker 5: is in the game tonight, which six. Yeah, so you're

2848
02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 5: talking about a nineteen point adjustment from raise one to

2849
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:49,200
Speaker 5: game seven. Now, the first four games of the series

2850
02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:51,839
Speaker 5: went under, so we saw two twenty five, two seventeen,

2851
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 5: then to thirteen and two eleven, and then we finally

2852
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:57,920
Speaker 5: got down to two oh nine in game five, and

2853
02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:00,520
Speaker 5: that's where we saw the big explosion. Right, Denver had

2854
02:15:00,520 --> 02:15:03,680
Speaker 5: a huge win. It was one thirty. It scored like

2855
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 5: one thirty at home, and then that game went way over.

2856
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:09,440
Speaker 5: And then the same thing in game six to twelve,

2857
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 5: So the total went up a little bit. In game

2858
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:13,840
Speaker 5: six to twelve games still went over, but then you

2859
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:16,600
Speaker 5: get that big adjustment down in game seven because on average,

2860
02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 5: game sevens tend to be much tighter. But I actually

2861
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 5: think in this case I would bet the over. I

2862
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 5: think two oh six is too low. I think the

2863
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 5: fact that it's the lowest total of the series and

2864
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,240
Speaker 5: the fact that the two totals in this vicinity two

2865
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 5: nine to twelve and games five and six both went over.

2866
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 5: I think especially with the Clippers offense, Like, to me,

2867
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:41,080
Speaker 5: that's the handicap. If the Clippers come into an atmosphere

2868
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:43,520
Speaker 5: in Denver and they feel comfortable offensively, I think this

2869
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 5: game's going over.

2870
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 2: Tonight we got another Game seven, and you want a

2871
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:49,320
Speaker 2: total lower than the two nine two to oh one

2872
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,240
Speaker 2: with the Golden State and the Rockets. You're getting three

2873
02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:54,120
Speaker 2: and a half points with Golden State if you want

2874
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 2: the points. Like I said, usually teams are like usually

2875
02:15:57,680 --> 02:15:59,520
Speaker 2: better's like to go with the home teams in the

2876
02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:02,680
Speaker 2: games seven, though, passing up on the Warriors plus three

2877
02:16:02,720 --> 02:16:04,640
Speaker 2: and a half a team that could actually pull off

2878
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:07,600
Speaker 2: the upset kind of hard to pass on by in

2879
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 2: something like this.

2880
02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:11,320
Speaker 5: Jared agreed, and didn't this happen last year? I think

2881
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:13,520
Speaker 5: it was two years ago, right, wasn't it? It was

2882
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:17,520
Speaker 5: Kings and Warriors, right? And the Kings were this young,

2883
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,880
Speaker 5: upstart team like the Beam and all this stuff, and

2884
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 5: the Warriors I think went into their building. I forget

2885
02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 5: if it was a game six or a game seven,

2886
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 5: to be fair, but I remember they went into their

2887
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 5: building and just rocked their socks off in the elimination

2888
02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:34,400
Speaker 5: game because the Kings were just not ready for that smoke,

2889
02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 5: that that that you know, pressure of the elimination game,

2890
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:41,720
Speaker 5: although they looked okay last night on the road. So

2891
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:45,080
Speaker 5: I think there may be too young to to you know,

2892
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:48,400
Speaker 5: inexperience to really know what the moment is maybe that's

2893
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 5: a good thing for Houston, But I like the Warriors

2894
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:53,520
Speaker 5: last night. Now I thought the number got too stretched,

2895
02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:56,080
Speaker 5: right Like again, we're getting back to this. We see

2896
02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:57,800
Speaker 5: what the numbers are throughout the course of the series.

2897
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 5: The Warriors were small favorite home in Game three. I

2898
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:02,360
Speaker 5: think it was one and a half and they were

2899
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 5: three and a half point favorite in Game four. Why

2900
02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 5: are they a five and a half point favorite in

2901
02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:11,000
Speaker 5: Game six at home? Like like, like it's the same scenario.

2902
02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 5: They just played four nights prior and they were a

2903
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:15,840
Speaker 5: three and a half point favorite, Like it's because of

2904
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,240
Speaker 5: this narrative, this kind of you know, I would call

2905
02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 5: it froth in the market where people just think, oh,

2906
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:23,520
Speaker 5: the Warriors are at home, they're gonna close out the series.

2907
02:17:23,560 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 3: Let's right.

2908
02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:27,080
Speaker 5: The price up two points and it's really a bad number.

2909
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas must have made a ton of money off that.

2910
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 5: I bet they did.

2911
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 3: Oh, they must have made a bowler. Plus you got

2912
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr.

2913
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,600
Speaker 2: Usually I don't go with coaches, but Kerr seems to

2914
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:38,360
Speaker 2: be worth a point or two for Golden State. I

2915
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:40,400
Speaker 2: got to take the points in this one, and and

2916
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:41,879
Speaker 2: maybe even bet them on the money line.

2917
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:43,039
Speaker 3: To see if they go ahead and win this.

2918
02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:45,280
Speaker 2: I think they will, though I think they pull off

2919
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:47,160
Speaker 2: the upset though I think they get to win in

2920
02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 2: this one.

2921
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:49,959
Speaker 5: They're jared, Yeah, I think, I think I like the

2922
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:51,920
Speaker 5: I think I like both road teams in Game seven,

2923
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 5: And I know that goes against what we were talking about,

2924
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 5: but hey, didn't t Wolves going to Denver. The t

2925
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 5: wwles went into Denver last year and won a Game seven.

2926
02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:02,279
Speaker 5: So I don't think Denver is this like impenetrable fortress

2927
02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 5: where teams can't go in and win, especially teams that

2928
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:08,039
Speaker 5: are experienced like the Clippers, and I know, you know,

2929
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:11,280
Speaker 5: te Wolves maybe not as experienced last year Gold State

2930
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:15,080
Speaker 5: Houston stuff. I think Houston is is definitely a team

2931
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:17,720
Speaker 5: that I would not want to bet on in big

2932
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 5: games because of their inexperience. But what they did last

2933
02:18:21,800 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 5: night was really impressive. And they're in Steph Curry's head

2934
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 5: like they're like, you know, you got Kerr complaining into

2935
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:28,840
Speaker 5: the reps about the fouls and how they're swiping down

2936
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 5: like they're kind of in their heads a little bit.

2937
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 5: So that's gonna be a really interesting adjustment. But we

2938
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:35,200
Speaker 5: have seen some early money on the Rockets. That's it

2939
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 5: opened too. Now it's out the three, So Houston's taking

2940
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:38,920
Speaker 5: a little bit of early money here.

2941
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:42,120
Speaker 2: By the way, if it's Cleveland and Oklahoma City in

2942
02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:43,320
Speaker 2: the finals, is that good.

2943
02:18:43,160 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 3: For your business or bad for your business or it

2944
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 3: doesn't matter at all? Really?

2945
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:53,200
Speaker 5: Well, I personally I don't care. But the liability, that's

2946
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:56,040
Speaker 5: an interesting question. If I had to guess, and this

2947
02:18:56,080 --> 02:18:57,240
Speaker 5: is a guess, I can look it up there in

2948
02:18:57,280 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 5: the break because Ben MGM usually sends us splits, right.

2949
02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:03,320
Speaker 5: If I had to guess, I would say Boston's probably

2950
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:06,520
Speaker 5: a team that the sportsbooks don't want to win the

2951
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:10,680
Speaker 5: title because usually in the NBA people like to bet

2952
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:13,760
Speaker 5: the favorites, and they've been a favorite pretty much all year,

2953
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:16,320
Speaker 5: and I'm assuming people have been hammering the Celtics all

2954
02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 5: year to win the title. Just hey, I'm just gonna

2955
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,199
Speaker 5: park this money and just wait until May or June

2956
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:24,560
Speaker 5: until they win. Oklahoma City is an interesting one because

2957
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:27,520
Speaker 5: they've been they kind of been a darling for the

2958
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:31,840
Speaker 5: last two years now, and the number hasn't really reflected that, Like,

2959
02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:34,960
Speaker 5: they've been a pretty prohibitive favorite pretty much the entire year.

2960
02:19:35,080 --> 02:19:36,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'll have to check that during the break.

2961
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 2: Do you bet more or less if you like the matchup?

2962
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not a sixty matchup, do you like,

2963
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit this one out or it doesn't make

2964
02:19:43,720 --> 02:19:45,039
Speaker 2: a difference what the matchup is for.

2965
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:50,600
Speaker 5: You, Ernie, I used to be a degenerate, so I

2966
02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:53,120
Speaker 5: am a I am like it's like a recovering alcoholic.

2967
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:56,680
Speaker 5: I used to be a degenerate. And the irony is

2968
02:19:57,320 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 5: when I moved to Vegas, people were like, are you sure, Like,

2969
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a good idea for you, Bud.

2970
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:09,280
Speaker 5: Moving here has actually turned me into less of it.

2971
02:20:09,320 --> 02:20:11,640
Speaker 5: I bet less here than I bet back. Really, I

2972
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:14,680
Speaker 5: lived in New York. Really, yeah, because I think when

2973
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:19,120
Speaker 5: you're around it, you're just you become desensitized to it. Like,

2974
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:20,640
Speaker 5: for example, when I used to come to Vegas in

2975
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:22,879
Speaker 5: my twenties and I used to you know, hang out

2976
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:25,039
Speaker 5: at Cosmo, I rolled craps till four in the morning

2977
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:27,480
Speaker 5: because I'd have to fly home the next day and

2978
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to be around craps for until

2979
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:33,200
Speaker 5: I came back to Vegas. Now I have a hotel

2980
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:37,120
Speaker 5: across the street, Like I don't feel that urgency to

2981
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:39,320
Speaker 5: bet as often as I used to.

2982
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense, that does I didn't think of it

2983
02:20:41,959 --> 02:20:44,000
Speaker 2: that way because I always said, if I lived in Vegas,

2984
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Speaker 2: forget about it, I'd be broke all the time.

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02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first few months I was in it, and

2986
02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:51,800
Speaker 5: then it kind of like the like the newness of

2987
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:55,840
Speaker 5: it wore off, and now I don't. I never, like rarely,

2988
02:20:56,200 --> 02:20:58,800
Speaker 5: rarely will I step into a casino and and and

2989
02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,600
Speaker 5: and roll dies is different. That's my job. So it's

2990
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:04,200
Speaker 5: a little different with sports betting, but like casino gambling. No,

2991
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm pretty I'm pretty tame these days.

2992
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:08,360
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to get to some football when we

2993
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 2: get back. I want to ask you about the Iowa

2994
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,440
Speaker 2: state situation. I got a great gambling story for you also,

2995
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 2: so we'll have a little fun. Jared Smith, Arnie Spanier

2996
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:19,039
Speaker 2: went for the fellas, Anthony Gargano and Jason fitz right

2997
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:24,840
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02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:32,480
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

3001
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:33,240
Speaker 6: listen live.

3002
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:36,800
Speaker 2: All right, good morning, everybody, Jared Smith, Arnie Spaniard, We're

3003
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:40,160
Speaker 2: in for the fellas Anthony Gargano and Jason Fitz right

3004
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio on a Saturday morning.

3005
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:45,800
Speaker 3: By the way, real quick gambling story.

3006
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 2: I was working for a network in Las Vegas, and

3007
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 2: it was right around Super Bowl, but a couple of

3008
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 2: days before, and we told the horror listeners, Hey, whoever

3009
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 2: wants to come out to Vegas, come on out. We'll

3010
02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:59,560
Speaker 2: have some fun, we'll hang out. And we didn't expect

3011
02:21:59,560 --> 02:22:01,240
Speaker 2: more than the couple hundred people to show up. I

3012
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:04,160
Speaker 2: guess by the time the weekend came around, there was

3013
02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:06,400
Speaker 2: about twenty five hundred to three thousand people.

3014
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:08,439
Speaker 3: Our boss bought.

3015
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 2: Like a ten foot subway sandwich and a keg of beer,

3016
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:14,600
Speaker 2: and that was supposed to last three thousand people, and

3017
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that gets done pretty fast, and

3018
02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 2: we're all board and sitting around and one of the

3019
02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:23,039
Speaker 2: hosts goes, hey, I got a fourteen parlay. That's a guarantee.

3020
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Let's go down to the sports book. And all twenty

3021
02:22:25,959 --> 02:22:28,120
Speaker 2: five hundred people run down to the sports book like

3022
02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:31,360
Speaker 2: we're giving away a hundred dollars bills all for to one.

3023
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:34,280
Speaker 2: And the guy that runs the sports book said, if

3024
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:38,920
Speaker 2: you ever do that, again, I will destroy you. They

3025
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:40,640
Speaker 2: weren't very happy with us, you know what I mean.

3026
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine what it was?

3027
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:44,360
Speaker 3: I think it was Caesar's. I think it was.

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02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:48,039
Speaker 5: Okay, Well they have enough money they can I mean, listen,

3029
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:52,680
Speaker 5: I think the usual will usually if your first line

3030
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:55,960
Speaker 5: of the story is I've got a four team parlay,

3031
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,880
Speaker 5: that's a lot the sports books like, please come back

3032
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 5: with us, We want you to come here. Yeah, so

3033
02:23:02,120 --> 02:23:06,039
Speaker 5: that's kind of a you know, confirmation bias after the

3034
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:08,760
Speaker 5: fact that they didn't like it because it won. But

3035
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:11,680
Speaker 5: if you would have asked them before the bet.

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02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:13,039
Speaker 3: They would have looked at a forty in barlay.

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02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go. Bring it on. Was gonna the biggest

3038
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 5: money maker for the books, right.

3039
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:19,040
Speaker 2: Exactly before we get to the football. I was gonna

3040
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:21,800
Speaker 2: ask you, what's the biggest odds you've won? Because when

3041
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:24,640
Speaker 2: I was living in Vegas and I'm not a you know,

3042
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 2: I was gambling on everything. But I don't bet tennis.

3043
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:29,720
Speaker 2: But I bet at tennis the French I think it

3044
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:32,680
Speaker 2: was the French Open. I bet some guy named Sergey

3045
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:36,240
Speaker 2: Brugera because he was twenty to one and they said

3046
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:38,840
Speaker 2: he played well on clay or whatever, and he won,

3047
02:23:39,160 --> 02:23:41,280
Speaker 2: and I had bet one hundred dollars on him. I

3048
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:44,080
Speaker 2: thought I was like the richest guy in Vegas. I

3049
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 2: thought I was unbelieved. I have twenty one hundred dollars

3050
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 2: in my pocket. My goodness.

3051
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:51,920
Speaker 3: Have you ever what was the longest shot you ever

3052
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:52,440
Speaker 3: hit out there?

3053
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:55,959
Speaker 5: Do you remember a question? So I always I get

3054
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:58,680
Speaker 5: this question a lot. People ask me, what's the biggest

3055
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:03,400
Speaker 5: bet you've ever won? It's a two part question. The

3056
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:07,959
Speaker 5: biggest risk I've ever made was on the Mayweather McGregor

3057
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 5: fight in twenty seventeen. I it was an offshore bet

3058
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:15,039
Speaker 5: and the odds were like minus five hundred that he

3059
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,600
Speaker 5: was gonna win and for Mayweather, and I'm just like,

3060
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:21,400
Speaker 5: wait a minute. So you're telling me that that a

3061
02:24:21,440 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 5: boxer is going to fight a UFC fighter and the

3062
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:28,000
Speaker 5: UFC fighter has to box. Yeah, I think it's bad.

3063
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:30,640
Speaker 5: I don't think this is I don't think McGregor has

3064
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,440
Speaker 5: a chance to win this fight. So I remember I was.

3065
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:37,160
Speaker 5: I remember I was depositing money with my mom's credit card.

3066
02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:40,080
Speaker 5: That's how much I was getting down on this fight.

3067
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 5: I eventually it was like five grand on this fight.

3068
02:24:42,200 --> 02:24:45,240
Speaker 5: And at twenty seventeen, I was basically thirty years old,

3069
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:47,199
Speaker 5: so five grand's a lot of money. Back then, I'm

3070
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:50,000
Speaker 5: just like, if he doesn't win this fight, I'm going

3071
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:52,400
Speaker 5: to have to let you know, call you know, some

3072
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:55,000
Speaker 5: help in to pay my rent next month. So that

3073
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:58,760
Speaker 5: was the biggest risk I've ever had on one particular event.

3074
02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:03,520
Speaker 5: The biggest win was on the twenty twenty one Shriners

3075
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:08,400
Speaker 5: Open golf tournament here in Vegas. Actually ironic Martin Laird

3076
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 5: two twenty five to one. I had a person, a

3077
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:13,439
Speaker 5: former golf.

3078
02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 3: Twenty two hundred and twenty five to one to one. Wow.

3079
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:18,640
Speaker 5: She came on. She was a was a golf analyst.

3080
02:25:18,680 --> 02:25:20,560
Speaker 5: She came on our show that week. I was working

3081
02:25:20,560 --> 02:25:23,640
Speaker 5: for another network at the time, and she was a

3082
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:30,680
Speaker 5: Scottish golf analyst and her brother was Russell Knox who

3083
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 5: plays on the tour. And she's like this Scott Martin laired,

3084
02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:37,720
Speaker 5: he loves this tournament, fellow countryman of her. And I

3085
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 5: was like, all right, finally I trust you, and so

3086
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,760
Speaker 5: I put fifty bucks down oh on this on this

3087
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:45,840
Speaker 5: golfer at two twenty five to one, I went over

3088
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:48,760
Speaker 5: like six grand and he wanted to playoff Arni. It

3089
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:52,560
Speaker 5: was the most stressful, but you for a moment of

3090
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:56,720
Speaker 5: my gambling career. Two twenty five to one twenty one

3091
02:25:56,720 --> 02:25:57,640
Speaker 5: Shriners open.

3092
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:02,440
Speaker 2: The steak for everybody after that. Unbelievable. I love that one.

3093
02:26:02,840 --> 02:26:03,840
Speaker 2: That's a great story.

3094
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:04,200
Speaker 4: All right.

3095
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:05,879
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, I don't know if you're

3096
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:08,240
Speaker 2: familiar with this story, big deal or not a big

3097
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:12,240
Speaker 2: deal that the NCAA is taking disciplined reaction against five

3098
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:16,880
Speaker 2: current and former Iowa State football staff members. They had

3099
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:20,840
Speaker 2: more than six two hundred online bets totally more than

3100
02:26:20,879 --> 02:26:25,120
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars on professional games college games, and

3101
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:29,199
Speaker 2: that includes men and women's basketball games involving the Cyclones.

3102
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Is this a big story and not really? It seems

3103
02:26:31,720 --> 02:26:33,760
Speaker 2: like most of the bets were small bets.

3104
02:26:33,800 --> 02:26:34,480
Speaker 3: What do you think.

3105
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:37,840
Speaker 5: I think if they were betting on football, it would

3106
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:41,040
Speaker 5: be a much bigger story. I think the fact that

3107
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 5: they are betting on their own program makes it like,

3108
02:26:44,920 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 5: all right, what do they know?

3109
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:46,879
Speaker 3: Right?

3110
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,959
Speaker 5: But they're also not involved in the game plan. They're

3111
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:52,640
Speaker 5: not involved in the game themselves. It's not like they're

3112
02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:56,640
Speaker 5: on the sideline on the bench, you know, plotting this

3113
02:26:57,480 --> 02:27:00,680
Speaker 5: right they have they're very well connected. They probably know

3114
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:02,640
Speaker 5: the coaches, they know the players, they know all the

3115
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:07,200
Speaker 5: inside information. But to be fair, that's not different than

3116
02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:10,840
Speaker 5: what I do on a different basis because I am

3117
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:13,560
Speaker 5: trying to get that information as well, and sometimes I

3118
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:16,480
Speaker 5: do get it, you know, through sources, through people that

3119
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,840
Speaker 5: I know, people who I trust. I get really good

3120
02:27:18,879 --> 02:27:22,760
Speaker 5: information about college sports, mostly on the injury front. That

3121
02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:28,039
Speaker 5: is the most coveted information in my little niche college football,

3122
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:33,120
Speaker 5: college basketball, college sports injuries because those injuries are not

3123
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:36,400
Speaker 5: reported and the market doesn't take that into account. So

3124
02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:40,720
Speaker 5: my guess is these football support staff members had inside

3125
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:45,960
Speaker 5: information that probably they shouldn't have had, But I try

3126
02:27:45,959 --> 02:27:49,280
Speaker 5: to get that information as well. So it feels like

3127
02:27:49,320 --> 02:27:51,879
Speaker 5: they're rightfully being punished. But I don't think it's like

3128
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:53,959
Speaker 5: the end of the world because they're not fixing games,

3129
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:54,879
Speaker 5: you know, right.

3130
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:56,600
Speaker 3: Right, No, I totally agree on that. Not the end

3131
02:27:56,640 --> 02:27:56,960
Speaker 3: of the world.

3132
02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:59,760
Speaker 2: They didn't bet the football games, but exactly as you said,

3133
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:02,840
Speaker 2: they you had some inside information. I wanted to ask you,

3134
02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 2: since the draft happened, did you feel are you ready

3135
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:09,560
Speaker 2: to or do you have you made any bets already

3136
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:11,840
Speaker 2: based on the way the draft happened. Or are you

3137
02:28:11,959 --> 02:28:15,879
Speaker 2: waiting to go ahead and make bets based on what happened?

3138
02:28:15,879 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 2: And are you all into what's going on with Shador Sanders.

3139
02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Are you betting that'll start a game? Do you like

3140
02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 2: him in the first year? Is he going to be successful?

3141
02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:27,400
Speaker 2: We'll even make the team. I'm sure you could probably

3142
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:28,520
Speaker 2: bet on some of the stuff like that.

3143
02:28:28,640 --> 02:28:32,600
Speaker 5: Also, it's a good question, So I'll start with the draft. Overall,

3144
02:28:33,240 --> 02:28:37,000
Speaker 5: the draft is not my starting point for making bets. Okay,

3145
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 5: it never is unless there is some really unique situation

3146
02:28:41,360 --> 02:28:45,279
Speaker 5: that happens. For example, there was one year where the Jets.

3147
02:28:45,680 --> 02:28:48,600
Speaker 5: It was the year they got Gardner and I think

3148
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:53,959
Speaker 5: it was Sauce and the receiver from ohiose date Garrett Wilson.

3149
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:57,240
Speaker 5: Right that year, I was very excited about the Jets,

3150
02:28:57,680 --> 02:28:59,760
Speaker 5: and I was a little more bullish on them, and

3151
02:28:59,800 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 5: I remember I was thinking to myself, I want to

3152
02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 5: bet this win total early because the market loves them

3153
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 5: and it's gonna move. It is rare that the draft

3154
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:12,279
Speaker 5: will move the needle for a team's total win total

3155
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:16,880
Speaker 5: or market number. Usually the draft is kind of a

3156
02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:22,840
Speaker 5: a nothing burger for the market. I typically don't move,

3157
02:29:22,879 --> 02:29:25,000
Speaker 5: so I already have my ratings for the seat like I'm, I'm,

3158
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:28,840
Speaker 5: I'm yeah, like I I usually take my ratings from

3159
02:29:28,879 --> 02:29:31,920
Speaker 5: the from the prior year, and then I referb them,

3160
02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:34,200
Speaker 5: you know, around this time, and I don't adjust them,

3161
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 5: frankly a whole lot from for the draft, maybe a

3162
02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:39,320
Speaker 5: half point, like I might adjust Tennessee, because you know,

3163
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:42,440
Speaker 5: going from cam Ward or from Will loves Camward might

3164
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 5: be an upgrade. But now we're hearing cam Ward is

3165
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:45,680
Speaker 5: not even you know, he's got to win the job,

3166
02:29:45,800 --> 02:29:48,879
Speaker 5: so you know, hesitate on that. You know, I want

3167
02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 5: to see him play. But it shouldn't publish the rookies

3168
02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 5: because you just yah, she better win the job or

3169
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:55,800
Speaker 5: else why did you draft them one if you can't

3170
02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 5: beat out will love us. I usually don't adjust my

3171
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:02,640
Speaker 5: ratings up or down based off of the draft, very rarely,

3172
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:06,080
Speaker 5: maybe half a point. The shardor Sanders thing is interesting.

3173
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:09,199
Speaker 5: I think he's going to end up being the starter

3174
02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:13,680
Speaker 5: I do, maybe not fun, but I think eventually he

3175
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:16,920
Speaker 5: is going to at least have a chance to win

3176
02:30:16,959 --> 02:30:19,720
Speaker 5: the job. More so, let's leave it at this. He'll

3177
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:22,400
Speaker 5: have a better chance to win the job than your

3178
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:26,280
Speaker 5: average fifth round pick start quarterback. Usually when you draft

3179
02:30:26,280 --> 02:30:28,040
Speaker 5: a quarterback in the fifth round, he's the backup.

3180
02:30:29,320 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Maybe this is the wrong

3181
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:34,080
Speaker 2: thinking and I shouldn't even think like this at all.

3182
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:38,760
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns with the two rookie quarterbacks obviously the

3183
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:43,480
Speaker 2: two veterans also and Deshaun Watson, but you're thinking, oh boy,

3184
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:45,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna be quite a quarterback race.

3185
02:30:45,440 --> 02:30:46,879
Speaker 3: You know who's going to make the team, who's not

3186
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:47,720
Speaker 3: going to make the team.

3187
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that the Browns probably maybe

3188
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,360
Speaker 2: try a little bit harder in the preseason, so you

3189
02:30:55,360 --> 02:30:59,080
Speaker 2: should bet them because they have quarterbacks that really makes

3190
02:30:59,080 --> 02:31:00,960
Speaker 2: a difference or not just it's like I'm gonna do

3191
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:03,280
Speaker 2: a series or two and I mean they want they

3192
02:31:03,320 --> 02:31:05,720
Speaker 2: want to play well, which should do or they want

3193
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:09,080
Speaker 2: to play well with Dylan Gabriel right or is that

3194
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:10,480
Speaker 2: too much thinking and something like that.

3195
02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:12,120
Speaker 5: No, I think it's a good line of things. I

3196
02:31:12,120 --> 02:31:15,000
Speaker 5: think the preseason people shy away from betting the preseason because.

3197
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:18,400
Speaker 2: The preseasons, the free season. Preseasons, the free season.

3198
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:21,720
Speaker 5: The theory. I hear this all the time because you know,

3199
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 5: I listen to a lot of gambling podcasts and stuff

3200
02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:25,440
Speaker 5: like Oh, they don't care in the preseason, So why

3201
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:28,440
Speaker 5: do I care? You're telling me these guys don't care. Yeah,

3202
02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:30,560
Speaker 5: but what do you crazy? Like you watch the games, Like,

3203
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:34,680
Speaker 5: maybe the coaches don't go all out with their game plans,

3204
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:39,400
Speaker 5: that's fair, but the players on the field are fighting

3205
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:45,039
Speaker 5: for jobs like tooth and nail, so the motivation for

3206
02:31:45,160 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 5: each individual player is sky high. In the preseason, I

3207
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:53,320
Speaker 5: think the coaches will keep things very vanilla and the

3208
02:31:53,360 --> 02:31:56,800
Speaker 5: players kind of dictate, Like if you have a really

3209
02:31:56,840 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 5: good roster, the coaches might be a little bit all right,

3210
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:02,760
Speaker 5: we're just gonna go run our base stuff. Guys. They

3211
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:05,039
Speaker 5: don't want to show anything. But if those players are

3212
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 5: really good, like it's gonna look pretty good. I think

3213
02:32:07,720 --> 02:32:11,120
Speaker 5: the Browns I would not put them in a category

3214
02:32:11,160 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 5: of I'm definitely betting them in the process, right because

3215
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:16,039
Speaker 5: I just I need to see, Like I mean, I'm

3216
02:32:16,040 --> 02:32:19,199
Speaker 5: one of those betters, like I don't have this like model,

3217
02:32:19,720 --> 02:32:22,800
Speaker 5: like I basic. I based my power ratings very much

3218
02:32:22,879 --> 02:32:26,440
Speaker 5: off of what I see and other people's ratings that

3219
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:29,760
Speaker 5: I trust, and I kind of adjust from there. I

3220
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 5: would say the Browns, I I think they want Kenny

3221
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:36,520
Speaker 5: Pickett to start I from from everything, I hear they

3222
02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:39,400
Speaker 5: love Kenny Pickett and they want him at least to

3223
02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:42,920
Speaker 5: have a chance to win that job. Flacco is the insurance.

3224
02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:46,520
Speaker 5: He can start, he can be the backup, He can

3225
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:50,160
Speaker 5: be back, you know, bagging groceries and in a couple

3226
02:32:50,200 --> 02:32:53,640
Speaker 5: of months if if things don't work out. Dylan Gabriel,

3227
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't understand it. I I don't understand

3228
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:03,200
Speaker 5: why they would draft him and then also draft Shador.

3229
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:05,320
Speaker 3: I agree with it makes.

3230
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,040
Speaker 5: It makes no sense to me. One of those guys

3231
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:09,960
Speaker 5: I think might get cut. Like honestly, I think you

3232
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:12,800
Speaker 5: keep pick it Flacco and one of the rookies, and

3233
02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:15,760
Speaker 5: I think the I think the odd rookie out might

3234
02:33:15,879 --> 02:33:18,280
Speaker 5: end up, you know, being either you know, a practice

3235
02:33:18,320 --> 02:33:20,720
Speaker 5: squad player or someone that gets picked up somewhere else.

3236
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, Chadura is something going on with the Toronto Argonauts site.

3237
02:33:24,600 --> 02:33:26,880
Speaker 2: I read somewhere that maybe he would go play in

3238
02:33:26,879 --> 02:33:27,959
Speaker 2: the Canadian Football League.

3239
02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 5: I doubt think Shador is going to be a lot

3240
02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 5: better than his fifth round great like where he got drafted,

3241
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:37,080
Speaker 5: I would have not drafted. I think I think teams

3242
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:39,039
Speaker 5: wanted to serve him a slice of humble pot.

3243
02:33:39,240 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Is it all because of the interviews the way he did.

3244
02:33:41,240 --> 02:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, he deserved it, right, if that's sure,

3245
02:33:43,959 --> 02:33:44,640
Speaker 2: those are true.

3246
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:47,959
Speaker 5: But also he's a kid and he probably made you know,

3247
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:51,359
Speaker 5: he didn't handle himself well and he made a mistake.

3248
02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:52,200
Speaker 5: And I think he.

3249
02:33:52,200 --> 02:33:54,200
Speaker 2: Should have known better. His father should have had him

3250
02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:55,240
Speaker 2: ready for those interviews.

3251
02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:59,120
Speaker 5: Agreed, And I'm not saying I don't think that there's

3252
02:33:59,200 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 5: a like, there's a good reason why he got drafted

3253
02:34:02,240 --> 02:34:06,039
Speaker 5: where he did. I understand the reason, but that's over now.

3254
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:08,000
Speaker 5: You can't keep punishing him for that.

3255
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:08,600
Speaker 3: No.

3256
02:34:08,600 --> 02:34:11,560
Speaker 5: No, he either learns from it or he's playing in

3257
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:14,760
Speaker 5: the CFL. And if he learns from it, he has

3258
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:17,480
Speaker 5: the tools to be a be a good quarterback in

3259
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:19,879
Speaker 5: the NFL. I know people don't I know people are

3260
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 5: doubting him. I know people are down on him, but

3261
02:34:23,600 --> 02:34:27,440
Speaker 5: he's incredibly accurate, and he has the pedigree of a winner.

3262
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:30,879
Speaker 5: He's a fighter, he's a competitor. I think if he

3263
02:34:30,959 --> 02:34:33,920
Speaker 5: figures out what went wrong in the interviews and he

3264
02:34:33,959 --> 02:34:35,959
Speaker 5: corrects that behavior, I think he's got a chance to

3265
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:38,160
Speaker 5: be at least a starting quarterback in the NFL. I

3266
02:34:38,200 --> 02:34:39,680
Speaker 5: don't know how successful he'll be, but I think he

3267
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:40,720
Speaker 5: has a chance to start. I do.

3268
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Speaking about having the tools, did you see the video

3269
02:34:44,400 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 2: that Antonio Brown put out of him running rounds against Shiloh.

3270
02:34:47,720 --> 02:34:51,320
Speaker 5: Wasn't that though? I don't know, I thought I didn't

3271
02:34:51,320 --> 02:34:51,680
Speaker 5: think it was.

3272
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:56,119
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't if if that was reason, he certainly

3273
02:34:56,200 --> 02:34:58,920
Speaker 2: cooked him that he not what he just destroyed him.

3274
02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I heard that. You know, Rosenhaus who's Shiloh's agent,

3275
02:35:04,840 --> 02:35:07,160
Speaker 5: kind of got him in at Tampa. Listen, these are

3276
02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:11,400
Speaker 5: players that have pedigrees that have fit family that played

3277
02:35:11,440 --> 02:35:13,720
Speaker 5: in the NFL. They're gonna have an inside track.

3278
02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3279
02:35:14,160 --> 02:35:16,120
Speaker 5: Like, that's why I'm very proud of where I have

3280
02:35:16,480 --> 02:35:18,000
Speaker 5: what I have. I don't have any family that work

3281
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:21,400
Speaker 5: in radio or TV, like I had to earn these spots,

3282
02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 5: and I'm you know, I think that's you know, noteworthy

3283
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:25,640
Speaker 5: for people that are in this space. It's a lot

3284
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:27,720
Speaker 5: easier to be in the sports industry when you have

3285
02:35:27,800 --> 02:35:29,920
Speaker 5: family and friends that are very high up in the

3286
02:35:29,920 --> 02:35:30,680
Speaker 5: sports industry.

3287
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:33,680
Speaker 2: You're not Randy Moss's kid going to get a tryout,

3288
02:35:34,160 --> 02:35:34,720
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

3289
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:35,440
Speaker 3: I will come back.

3290
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:37,280
Speaker 2: I want to ask your opinion on some of the games,

3291
02:35:37,720 --> 02:35:40,240
Speaker 2: especially the Game seven and some of the other NBA games.

3292
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:43,000
Speaker 2: We'll get your opinions on that. That's coming up next

3293
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:45,960
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, I want

3294
02:35:45,959 --> 02:35:48,000
Speaker 2: to let you know shortly after the show, our podcast

3295
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:50,240
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3296
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:52,800
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3297
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. So be sure

3298
02:35:56,959 --> 02:35:59,959
Speaker 2: to follow and review the podcast. Give it five stars.

3299
02:36:00,120 --> 02:36:03,240
Speaker 2: And again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

3300
02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 2: your podcast, and you'll see today's show posted right after

3301
02:36:07,600 --> 02:36:10,240
Speaker 2: we get off the air. All right, Jared Friz ofball Jerdy,

3302
02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: you got to post your Kentucky Derby pick before it

3303
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:12,920
Speaker 2: runs tonight.

3304
02:36:12,959 --> 02:36:14,039
Speaker 3: You're gonna be doing that later on.

3305
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like sovereignty, you're gona what's the odds on

3306
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:17,760
Speaker 2: that one?

3307
02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Do you know?

3308
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:21,040
Speaker 5: It depends on where you go, like fixed ods. I

3309
02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 5: saw like five one. But my guest is we're gonna

3310
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:26,040
Speaker 5: take some money today on this on this pup, on

3311
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:28,520
Speaker 5: this pony, probably gonna be down. I would say three

3312
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:30,320
Speaker 5: four to one probably By closing lines.

3313
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:32,960
Speaker 2: Mike, what do you remember what Jacamo was when it won?

3314
02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:36,320
Speaker 2: Was like fifty to one or something that it was

3315
02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 2: something it was, Yeah, it was something pretty good.

3316
02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:42,760
Speaker 3: Well, it was definitely at yeah, fifty one.

3317
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:44,039
Speaker 5: Let me look, it's a good question.

3318
02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:44,280
Speaker 4: Long.

3319
02:36:44,360 --> 02:36:46,120
Speaker 2: I was so funny because we make fun of two

3320
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:48,959
Speaker 2: of my old producers. I shouldn't say their name, but

3321
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:52,360
Speaker 2: their last name were did Jacomo, and we told them

3322
02:36:52,360 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 2: we go, how could you not bet on the horse?

3323
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:56,960
Speaker 2: And I think they ended up betting two dollars on

3324
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:57,440
Speaker 2: the horse?

3325
02:36:57,879 --> 02:36:58,320
Speaker 3: Uh to what.

3326
02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you should have been like a hundred dollars.

3327
02:37:00,840 --> 02:37:01,640
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?

3328
02:37:01,640 --> 02:37:03,840
Speaker 3: Guys? The horse is pretty much the name after you.

3329
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:07,680
Speaker 5: And that's also my smallest bet usually fifty bucks is like,

3330
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:10,000
Speaker 5: I won't bet anything if it's less than like, why

3331
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:10,760
Speaker 5: are you even bothering?

3332
02:37:11,400 --> 02:37:13,240
Speaker 3: They got good odds on that, that's for sure.

3333
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:16,600
Speaker 2: Tonight though, Game seven Clippers Nuggets, we told you, Denver

3334
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:19,080
Speaker 2: one and a half over two O six and a half,

3335
02:37:19,640 --> 02:37:22,160
Speaker 2: you're an under guy, and you were thinking maybe you're

3336
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:23,560
Speaker 2: going with the underdog.

3337
02:37:23,160 --> 02:37:23,680
Speaker 3: In this one.

3338
02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:26,520
Speaker 2: There's really no underdog. It's a coin flip. Are you

3339
02:37:26,560 --> 02:37:29,640
Speaker 2: aay in the game better type guy? Or you stay

3340
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:30,440
Speaker 2: away from now too.

3341
02:37:30,760 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 5: I think live betting is in my opinion for especially

3342
02:37:34,520 --> 02:37:36,760
Speaker 5: for basketball. The best way to bet it, especially in

3343
02:37:36,760 --> 02:37:39,240
Speaker 5: college basketball. I mean, you watch the March Madness. It's

3344
02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:42,160
Speaker 5: just run back and forth. So what you do is

3345
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:45,280
Speaker 5: you have to ignore what you're watching and fade the

3346
02:37:45,360 --> 02:37:47,800
Speaker 5: run team goes on a ten oh fifteen to oh run,

3347
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:50,760
Speaker 5: you gotta bet the other side because typically it kind

3348
02:37:50,800 --> 02:37:52,120
Speaker 5: of reverts back to the mean.

3349
02:37:53,120 --> 02:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Totally agree with you there. So who we take it

3350
02:37:55,040 --> 02:37:57,320
Speaker 2: in this game seven tonight? You're going with the home

3351
02:37:57,360 --> 02:37:59,840
Speaker 2: team Nuggets, or you're gonna take the Clippers in these

3352
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:02,200
Speaker 2: all points in this one, and you're probably going with

3353
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:03,039
Speaker 2: the under right.

3354
02:38:03,240 --> 02:38:06,120
Speaker 5: No, I actually I like the Clippers for sure. I

3355
02:38:06,120 --> 02:38:08,879
Speaker 5: think the Clippers are the better team, and I like

3356
02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:10,760
Speaker 5: the over. I think it's I think the totals move

3357
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:12,400
Speaker 5: down too much. I think this is one of those

3358
02:38:12,400 --> 02:38:15,240
Speaker 5: situations where Vegas I hate when people say that, but

3359
02:38:15,440 --> 02:38:19,040
Speaker 5: I'll use it now. Vegas is over inflating or I

3360
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:23,440
Speaker 5: guess deflating the line. The total because of the game seven,

3361
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:26,600
Speaker 5: vibe like this is the lowest total of the series yet.

3362
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:30,039
Speaker 5: Over the last two games, we've seen two overs, and

3363
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 5: we've also seen James Harden's offense start to percolate. And

3364
02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:36,280
Speaker 5: if that happens, and the Clippers who went to Patum,

3365
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:39,080
Speaker 5: they went to more of a shooting lineup with Bogdanovich Patum.

3366
02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:42,600
Speaker 5: In Game six, they found something offensively that to me

3367
02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:46,360
Speaker 5: means over. Clippers are gonna very much lean into their

3368
02:38:46,400 --> 02:38:48,680
Speaker 5: offense in this game, and I think they go into

3369
02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:50,360
Speaker 5: Denver and get a win tonight. I think it goes over.

3370
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:52,240
Speaker 3: Are you a prop guy in this one?

3371
02:38:52,320 --> 02:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Like betting like individual players jokicch to over under or

3372
02:38:56,879 --> 02:38:57,840
Speaker 2: anything like that or No.

3373
02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:02,080
Speaker 5: I do like betting prop, but in this particular game,

3374
02:39:02,080 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 5: I don't have one that I specifically like. But I

3375
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:06,920
Speaker 5: do think props in general are a very good bet

3376
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:10,520
Speaker 5: in NBA games, especially for those that are novice betters

3377
02:39:10,640 --> 02:39:13,760
Speaker 5: that like the fantasy element of gambling because it's you know,

3378
02:39:13,840 --> 02:39:16,280
Speaker 5: kind of fantasy sports kind of mixed into gambling with

3379
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:17,120
Speaker 5: the prop markets.

3380
02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:20,360
Speaker 2: Uh, there's been a change, I believe in the Warriors

3381
02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:23,480
Speaker 2: Rockets game. I'm pretty sure when I was talking to

3382
02:39:23,560 --> 02:39:26,720
Speaker 2: with Jeff Lastauer and I brought it up with you already,

3383
02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:29,560
Speaker 2: the Rockets were a three and a half point favorite.

3384
02:39:30,320 --> 02:39:32,720
Speaker 2: That's changed. The Rockets are now only a two and

3385
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:34,960
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. So it went down a whole

3386
02:39:34,959 --> 02:39:38,360
Speaker 2: point at least, that's you know, the general number out there.

3387
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:39,600
Speaker 5: What happened?

3388
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:42,920
Speaker 3: Big money coming in on the Warriors early right now?

3389
02:39:42,959 --> 02:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Is that what happened? Or just a bunch of bets.

3390
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it opened too. I did see at a

3391
02:39:47,360 --> 02:39:50,640
Speaker 5: shop here in town. It opened to overnight last night

3392
02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:55,439
Speaker 5: and then it got bet up to three very quickly.

3393
02:39:56,160 --> 02:39:59,040
Speaker 5: So the early So the way that I usually analyze

3394
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:03,040
Speaker 5: a market in terms of an individual game, when the

3395
02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:05,959
Speaker 5: game opens at a certain sports book here in town

3396
02:40:06,320 --> 02:40:09,119
Speaker 5: that I think is the sharpest book in town, and

3397
02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:13,480
Speaker 5: we see early money, very early money on one particular

3398
02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:16,400
Speaker 5: side or total. That to me is the sharpest of

3399
02:40:16,440 --> 02:40:19,640
Speaker 5: the sharps. Because if you are waiting for the number

3400
02:40:19,680 --> 02:40:22,080
Speaker 5: to drop and you have your number on your end

3401
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:24,039
Speaker 5: and you see their number and you're like, that's wrong,

3402
02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:27,119
Speaker 5: I'm betting it, that to me is very sharp action.

3403
02:40:27,640 --> 02:40:31,360
Speaker 5: Then after you get that initial wave, usually you'll get

3404
02:40:31,400 --> 02:40:34,040
Speaker 5: a buy back sometimes where like a number will move

3405
02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:36,080
Speaker 5: couple of points, and then that same person will come

3406
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:37,840
Speaker 5: back and buy the other side and move it back.

3407
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:41,360
Speaker 5: So it's hard to really tell where the actual sharp

3408
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:44,959
Speaker 5: money is. It's more you use the numbers as guidepost

3409
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:47,440
Speaker 5: so I would say, if it's two, I would bet Houston.

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02:40:47,480 --> 02:40:49,360
Speaker 5: If it's three and a half, I bet Golden State.

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02:40:49,400 --> 02:40:52,480
Speaker 5: That's kind of where the market's telling you those you

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02:40:52,480 --> 02:40:53,880
Speaker 5: know guardrails are early on.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for me, my friend. I really

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02:40:56,080 --> 02:40:59,040
Speaker 2: appreciated Jared's coming up next though. Brian No, rich O

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Speaker 2: and Jared run Fox