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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This week we are

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Speaker 1: celebrating Martin Luther King Day, and I am pleased to

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Speaker 1: have Alvida King here with me to chat about this

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Speaker 1: doctor Elvita King to the podcast. She is the chair

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Speaker 1: of the America First Policy Institute's Center for the American

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Speaker 1: Dream and grew up in the civil rights movements. Her

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Speaker 1: parents ad and Naomi King, as well as her uncle,

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Speaker 1: doctor Martin Luther King. Obviously we're like the parents of

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Speaker 1: the civil rights movement as well. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being here today.

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Speaker 3: It's such a blessing to join you and your viewers

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Speaker 3: and your audience. You're listening and viewing audience. Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you when I was a kid

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Speaker 1: and we first heard this story. I think that I

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Speaker 1: grew up in a generation where if when you're a child,

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Speaker 1: you don't really understand that there was a time when

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Speaker 1: there was segregation, when there was discrimination, like that, and

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Speaker 1: you hear the story in school where Martin Luther King

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Speaker 1: as a child can no longer play with his friend.

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Speaker 1: And still to this day it brings tears to my

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Speaker 1: eyes to think about that. And as a child, I

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Speaker 1: remember thinking how could that have ever happened? And I

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Speaker 1: remember a few years ago my daughter was probably that

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Speaker 1: have to tell you a terrible story, and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 1: the power of that story through generations. How neat is that?

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Speaker 1: But now every day we hear about racism and how

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Speaker 1: everybody's being torn apart. Tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what your parents and what your uncle would say today

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Speaker 1: to kids who go, how could that have ever been

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Speaker 3: James legacy vision are connected, and they're inter connected, and

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Speaker 3: truths have to be told in every generation, every decade,

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Speaker 3: on every platform. If we don't remember to teach truth,

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Speaker 3: then people forget and history can repeat itself. The only

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Speaker 3: answer to that is to continue to proclaim truth and

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Speaker 3: to teach in every generation. And I even tell people

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Speaker 3: today with social media, for example, in other countries, some

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Speaker 3: And so we need to recapture these platforms. And that's

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Speaker 3: what we're doing with this show, by the way, and

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Speaker 3: that's very important to ask the hard questions and to

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Speaker 3: ask God for solutions. And as we do that, it happens.

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Speaker 3: I know, children say the same thing to me, even

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Speaker 3: in my own family, my grandchildren, for example, and my

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Speaker 3: grandson came and asked his mother, have you heard of

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Speaker 3: Martin Lewis King? Well, how about Martin Luther King? And

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Speaker 3: he's your great great uncle. How about that? And he's

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Speaker 3: the little fellas about three, and we talk about family

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Speaker 3: Racism is based in misinformation. It's a systemic issue. It's

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Speaker 3: So we're not separate races. We're one race with different ethnicities.

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Speaker 3: That needs to be taught definitely in every generation, in

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Speaker 2: Hear about.

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Speaker 1: I studied quite a bit in college. I took many

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Speaker 2: And I think that.

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Speaker 1: When you are learning about that and you hear about

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Speaker 1: being able to see racism. Now, racism has talked about

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Speaker 2: But there was a time when it.

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Speaker 1: Was just acceptable to openly say these people are not

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Speaker 1: We've made a lot of strides since then because of

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Speaker 1: many people working together. But today you made a good point.

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Speaker 1: At the beginning, you said that if you don't know history,

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think when you see things like that?

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Speaker 3: I know there again that I'm not really doing my job,

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Speaker 3: with good and with truth. And so I, for instance,

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Speaker 3: we're starting a new talk show, reality talk show called

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Speaker 3: The Vision. It's a Christian show. I and five of

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Speaker 3: my friends and young ladies. We're all together and we

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Speaker 3: are proclaiming and answering. Now, Satan has the title Prince

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Speaker 3: to occupy the airways with truth. And so when I

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Speaker 3: other kind of things and stirring misinformation causing people to

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Speaker 3: and I have the same when peripheals Collacde, convergence is imminent.

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Speaker 3: That's true for good things, but it's also true for

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Speaker 3: the Center for the American Dream. But I want to

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Speaker 3: remind people that dreams and legacies can connect and we

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Speaker 3: That's the first person I want to talk to and

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. That was the mantra during the

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Speaker 1: Civil rights movement. It wasn't about being angry. I mean,

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Speaker 2: A lot of love. That the protests were to.

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Speaker 1: and I think part of that is that you talk

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Speaker 2: You can you can bring a lot more people in

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something radical, and you're going

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Speaker 3: My uncle, Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, My granddaddy, Daddy King,

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Speaker 3: his father, whose grandfather was from Ireland. Nathan Brandham. King's

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Speaker 3: slave preacher Martin Luther King Jr. Understood all of this

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Speaker 3: that when I'm talking to faith, hope, love, fear, not

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Speaker 1: I think there's something that we are oh gosh, I

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Speaker 1: would say, in many cases, we are afraid to talk

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Speaker 2: Much for what you do every day.

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Speaker 3: Humans can really be mean, can't they. So that's the

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Speaker 1: I hope today students still feel like they can go

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being here, doctor Elvita King.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We celebrate your family this week, everything you've done and

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the opportunity.

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