Speaker 1: What's up, sir, Thanks for having me. Of course, for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, you're obviously I mean mogul, I
Speaker 1: would say, I don't know the definition of a mogul.
Speaker 1: Well describe kind of like what you do, man, because
Speaker 1: you do a lot, Like there's so many things that
Speaker 1: you do. I'm a professional boxer, even though I'm not
Speaker 1: fighting right now, but the right offer comes across some
Speaker 1: on it. I love fitness, working out. I worked out
Speaker 1: my entire life, even different like phases of my life,
Speaker 1: like when I was in the streets, I still worked out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, every group of friends that
Speaker 1: I've had, I was a ring leader, getting everybody in
Speaker 1: the gym my entire life. And now you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. I own businesses. I have a sports nutrition
Speaker 1: business or supplement supplement business. That's that's Kevin Gates Wood
Speaker 1: was speaking about your ambrosia free workout. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: with us. That's that's that's my spiritual brother right there.
Speaker 1: Shout out to keV. Yeah, so yeah, so I got ambrosia.
Speaker 1: We got the number one plant based protein in the country.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I have a healthy snack company called Snackhouse foods,
Speaker 1: my own a chunk of one of the most successful
Speaker 1: malprop delivery companies called Trifecta, while killing it going public
Speaker 1: soon shout out to Greg. Yeah, and I got like
Speaker 1: things I do on the digital side, like I have
Speaker 1: an app for online training and challenges, YouTube channels great,
Speaker 1: YouTube is popping, you know. I love YouTube, man. That's
Speaker 1: that's that really was a catalyst for success across all
Speaker 1: my businessess YouTube. Yeah, I feel like you are very
Speaker 1: consistent with the I feel like, you know, people do
Speaker 1: workout videos and obviously you do interviews, you do just
Speaker 1: motivational shit, But even just your workout videos are a
Speaker 1: lot more palatable than like some of the like typical
Speaker 1: YouTube shit you'd see. That makes sense. They're like more aesthetically,
Speaker 1: like I could watch this and like, you know why
Speaker 1: because you're a hip hop dude. Right, I'm a hip
Speaker 1: hop dude, so you know, people won't realize why they
Speaker 1: was liking my videos. But it was like I used
Speaker 1: to rap, right, and the same people that I was
Speaker 1: doing my beats and my videos back then, we're doing
Speaker 1: my beats and videos for the fitness stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is a mere perry doing your stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to a mirror. Hey, real talk. I was
Speaker 1: growing up in Phoenix. I remember he had a situation
Speaker 1: with Squad House and he was like one of the
Speaker 1: local guys who like always it was like him poke
Speaker 1: a face, Like there's like a few guys who had
Speaker 1: like national looks. This is prior to the Man Ups. Well,
Speaker 1: this is around Man Up Squad. This was yeah, this
Speaker 1: is when. Yeah, he had his deal already, but we
Speaker 1: put together Manup Squad right around that time. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get to so just so you know, I met you
Speaker 1: when I was like an Internet power Yeah, way back
Speaker 1: in the day now for people who don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: originally from Phoenix, and there was you were really popping
Speaker 1: artists in Arizona. You went by saying Q and there
Speaker 1: was a group which was kind of crazy, like if
Speaker 1: it really would have worked out the way it was
Speaker 1: supposed to work out. Man Up Squad Yeah was like
Speaker 1: you Willie north Pole, hot Rod Mirror. It was phra
Speaker 1: phrase was in it. But then we had a thousand
Speaker 1: like just guys that was just wanted to be down too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was like one of the only times where
Speaker 1: I felt like in Phoenix there was like a real
Speaker 1: movement that like was like oh shit, Like imagine if
Speaker 1: all the dopest people in your city came together and
Speaker 1: like rolled in Unison, and yeah, it was it was dope.
Speaker 1: It was a dope moment. We got, We got some
Speaker 1: magic bro we got some songs from back then. That's
Speaker 1: still if it was to come out right now, slap
Speaker 1: ship that nobody even heard, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because we never really put music out, you know, like
Speaker 1: people knew us. Uh, we hadn't put music out as
Speaker 1: a collective, right. Everybody had their solo projects. But you know,
Speaker 1: I take a lot of responsibility for things coming apart
Speaker 1: because you know, I was doing illegal things and you
Speaker 1: know you got locked up, right, Yeah, I was on
Speaker 1: a run for a long time. So basically like with me,
Speaker 1: like I was selling drugs. I was selling weed, which
Speaker 1: is legal now, but you know, whole selling it to
Speaker 1: the East Coast, to New York, Atlanta. A lot of guys,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys of a hip hop size, right
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, no, for sure you already know you know,
Speaker 1: so so I know some of them through that, right,
Speaker 1: But my life, I'm so authentic. I was being authentic
Speaker 1: all the way across the board, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm making money here, but I'm doing other things
Speaker 1: in the streets that I probably shouldn't have been doing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it all caught up
Speaker 1: to me. So, you know, a lot of violence, a
Speaker 1: lot of in Arizona. It's a huge state, but it's
Speaker 1: small every and the cops know everything, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So they bored you know, they know everything
Speaker 1: to a tea because not only do they know everything,
Speaker 1: but literally everybody out there is snitching. Like they was
Speaker 1: going so hard on me. I had to hire an
Speaker 1: investigator to find out what was really going on because
Speaker 1: I thought maybe there was some other secret indictment, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because there was some Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was nervous, damn something like they got they got a
Speaker 1: heart on from me for some reason, and I had
Speaker 1: when they got me, had no priors. So, uh, come
Speaker 1: to find out, there was people that I was around,
Speaker 1: pretty big people, you know what I'm saying, that had
Speaker 1: major cases that were throwing me under the bus. You know,
Speaker 1: even it was like hearsay stuffs because I kept everybody
Speaker 1: out of my business, you know what, I'm saying my
Speaker 1: operation was small. So is that my phone or your
Speaker 1: phone that's your Jesus Siri might not talk English, so
Speaker 1: pone what we're doing. That's weird. Continue Yeah, But so anyway,
Speaker 1: we found out that, you know, like everything, like people,
Speaker 1: they would always ask about me, and people would give
Speaker 1: their opinion on what I was doing. And one of
Speaker 1: the guys ain't gonna say his name. I looked out for.
Speaker 1: We caught cases around the same time, but his was
Speaker 1: state and federal. He was he was done for, but
Speaker 1: he he worked with them. But he came over recording
Speaker 1: me with uh in the key fob, michaerophonea key fob?
Speaker 1: Was this a person in this on the scene in
Speaker 1: Phoenix at the time? No comment, heels, but yeah, was
Speaker 1: it ad Nah? But anyway, so they got me. They
Speaker 1: heard me saying really bad things, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying because I were trying to figure things out, and
Speaker 1: I'm like somebody snitching and you know, you know what
Speaker 1: comes with that. So it was stuff that was not
Speaker 1: admissible in court, but it seasoned the perspective or the
Speaker 1: perception of my my prosecutor, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And they tried to use Man up Squad as a gang,
Speaker 1: and they say I was a gang leader kind of
Speaker 1: like this this ship they're doing with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they but I was like fuck that.
Speaker 1: So I had to have a whole like trial to
Speaker 1: prove they had to prove that I am a gang
Speaker 1: leader and Man of Squad was a gang. And they
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing on it because they gotta they gotta
Speaker 1: show that there were two or three felonies committed in
Speaker 1: the name of the organized to certify it as a gang.
Speaker 1: Beat this shit. This is fucked up. If Now, first
Speaker 1: of all, when they put you put a gang junction
Speaker 1: on you, most people don't don't try to fight it
Speaker 1: right right, right right, and most people say yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: in such and such gang. They just fucked themselves. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's an additional ten years on top of anything that
Speaker 1: happens if you're if you're considered in a gang, if
Speaker 1: you have a two year of burglary, getting twelve years
Speaker 1: just because you're in a quote unquote gang. Right, Wow,
Speaker 1: target this shit, you know what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 1: crazy because like you know, when if you think about
Speaker 1: like a guy, like a hot Rod. He was like
Speaker 1: a mortgage guy before he was run. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys were not involved in anything. Some of
Speaker 1: them a mirror that's like my brother right there, man.
Speaker 1: But great producer, man, great person all around. He separated himself,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that he did because the people that
Speaker 1: I was really like were really friends of mine. They
Speaker 1: just seeing the direction and they were just like, I
Speaker 1: ain't with that shit, and I'm glad they did. And
Speaker 1: so you know, at the end of the day, it
Speaker 1: was just me standing there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I hadn't do it like a man. I did
Speaker 1: run for a minute. How long were you on the run?
Speaker 1: Seven years? Seven years? So give me the year to year,
Speaker 1: like two thousand and seven, six years, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: everything happened. I caught two kgs one O seven. When
Speaker 1: eight and O seven it got kind of like dismissed,
Speaker 1: but without without prejudice so they could bring it back. Right.
Speaker 1: It was really a weak case, you know then, so
Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, in eight I called another case.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to like at this point, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to really like straighten up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Actually in O seven, I was trying to straighten up.
Speaker 1: But it was like people always say when you're making
Speaker 1: that kind of money, fast money, like I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get X amount and then get out. It's impossible,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Get it? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I'm sure it can happen, but it's really hard,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it comes so fast.
Speaker 1: You spin it just as fast as you get it,
Speaker 1: because you know you can get it again, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was like, fuck, I just
Speaker 1: got to keep getting it. And the fighting cases was expensive.
Speaker 1: So I'm fighting cases ankle bracelet, still trapping, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so eight caught another case. They
Speaker 1: came and got me. I had a bunch of guns
Speaker 1: in my house and they brought the other cases. They
Speaker 1: brought both cases back simultaneously so they can get me
Speaker 1: on felony release with weapons. So they tried some slick
Speaker 1: shit pull me over in the middle of the street.
Speaker 1: It was so over the top. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: shotguns and shit. But you know, you go through the
Speaker 1: horseshoe and you see the judge in twenty four hours
Speaker 1: and she was like okay, well she's about to say
Speaker 1: the bond and this fucking woman on the side like, actually,
Speaker 1: you're on it. He doesn't get a bond. He's a dangerous,
Speaker 1: violent felon. He's a serious crimes and he has all
Speaker 1: of these guys like eight case you know, Arizona. That
Speaker 1: shit legal, right, but you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: it just looked bad. Yeah. I don't even think it
Speaker 1: was as legal back then though as it just now,
Speaker 1: because now it's like it was it was super legal.
Speaker 1: But I think now, like, okay, I know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a law that they got that saved my life
Speaker 1: called standard ground no Castle doctrine, that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it when my shit happened, right because
Speaker 1: everything that happened happened in my house, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know so, but I was gone for
Speaker 1: so long by the time they got me, they had
Speaker 1: that law. So if you're on the run, so you
Speaker 1: find out your percentually looking at serious time and you
Speaker 1: decide to just say fuck it. So I tell you, listen,
Speaker 1: I live life, life, don't live me. Nothing happens to me,
Speaker 1: I do you know, And I'm not like saying that
Speaker 1: in a egotistical way, but I will not allow somebody
Speaker 1: else to determine my faith. It's not happening. And I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like what they were trying to get. If
Speaker 1: they would have said like three years, five years, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, it is about fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: years with no priors. That's crazy. This ain't happening. So
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me my kids are going to
Speaker 1: be adults when I get out. I'm cool and you know,
Speaker 1: and people don't realize with a violent offense, especially something
Speaker 1: of the nature of mind, you're in a way worse
Speaker 1: type of facility. It's gladiator school, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I know I'm gonna be in there
Speaker 1: having to defend myself catching more cases. So it just
Speaker 1: looked bleak, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm out of here. So where'd you go?
Speaker 1: All over? You know, over the country. I left the
Speaker 1: country for a minute, and then, like me, you know,
Speaker 1: I stayed in communication with my children, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck am I doing? Like I went on
Speaker 1: a run. So they won't separate me from my kids.
Speaker 1: But yourself, separated from my kids. So I came back,
Speaker 1: and you know, I came back. Everybody figured that I
Speaker 1: would have got caught by that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I just don't move reckless. I calculate everything. I
Speaker 1: study everything about Look, I was a valedictorian student all
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying, honor student, all
Speaker 1: of that shit. So I just did research and seeing
Speaker 1: what I can do. What in CCS whatever that shit's called,
Speaker 1: what do they track everything? I looked up everything. So
Speaker 1: I moved around. So when I got back, people did
Speaker 1: think that I was gonna get got caught by then,
Speaker 1: and then some of my friends they were like, yo,
Speaker 1: you can stay with me and you could come back.
Speaker 1: I'm like cool, But when I came back, it was
Speaker 1: a surprise to them, so they was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because this shit probably wasn't one hundred
Speaker 1: percent you know what I'm saying, and I'm bringing heat
Speaker 1: to them, so I didn't even it didn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that no one allowed me to come stay
Speaker 1: because it just put a certain type of motivation, a
Speaker 1: lit a certain fire under me. So I was legit
Speaker 1: homeless for a minute, bro, and peate this. I'm homeless, right,
Speaker 1: I had, like I still had shit in the streets
Speaker 1: like whips and shit like that, other people subleasing it
Speaker 1: and like motherfucker was talking shit people that was nothing
Speaker 1: to me. You know what I'm saying, I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: So I was at a crossroad. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: full of fear, full of anger, for of confusion. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, When you got nothing, I have nothing,
Speaker 1: right I don't. It looks like I don't have a future.
Speaker 1: Only I had was like violence and physical force and intimidation.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna just go to my my
Speaker 1: my default settings and I'm knocking on doors. So I
Speaker 1: really was about to like go back to Arizona, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and just ruined my life. But
Speaker 1: you came back into the country. You you were in Cali. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I didn't because you would have went to Arizona,
Speaker 1: you would have just started. I would have been making
Speaker 1: rounds for what Nothing comes out of that. So what
Speaker 1: stopped me was my son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: His mother, who's very smart. She made a weird call
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, you want your son here, I am.
Speaker 1: She don't even realize I'm homeless. Nobody knew that ship, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I didn't know how I was gonna
Speaker 1: take him or whatever. Get that shit out. So that
Speaker 1: saved my life, you know what I mean. And it
Speaker 1: was one day I started getting my shit together. I'm
Speaker 1: taking him to school. They have a car. I'm walking
Speaker 1: and he's little, like six kindergarten maybe something like that,
Speaker 1: and or first grade. So while going to school, when
Speaker 1: he comes out, I'm there and you know, he can't
Speaker 1: see me because he's little. I could see him. I
Speaker 1: see him looking for me, and I seen this one day. Bro.
Speaker 1: His eyes lit up when he seen me and just
Speaker 1: ran just hold onto my leg and then held my
Speaker 1: hand tight and we walked home. And I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like fuck, like this little, perfect, little human loves me.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no car, I'm got no fly shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, when I
Speaker 1: had all of that shit, I had nothing but fake
Speaker 1: love around me, you know what I mean. But this
Speaker 1: guy loves me, you know what I'm saying, conditionally, unconditionally,
Speaker 1: So it made me love myself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And shit, has been good ever since then. Bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So did you ever resolve being
Speaker 1: on the run the law enforce? Don't you? Nah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did. I did. They Actually, they came and they
Speaker 1: found me in twenty fourteen, the US Marshals. They came
Speaker 1: and got me outside the gym and the marshal. It
Speaker 1: was weird that I was on social media, period, but
Speaker 1: I was on social media initially to stay in touch
Speaker 1: with my family, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: would I started working as a personal trainer, and I
Speaker 1: would use social media for my clients, like showing their progress, right, video,
Speaker 1: promote your business, right, And it was giving me a
Speaker 1: lot more business. Every now and then I throw a
Speaker 1: little video of myself working out and people were just
Speaker 1: liking all the content. And then it got to words
Speaker 1: more demand for it, and I'm like, fuck it. Like
Speaker 1: every day you want to run, you're you're not thinking
Speaker 1: you're free, but you feel a little more comfortable every
Speaker 1: day while there's this invisible way hanging in the back
Speaker 1: of your head. It's a dark cloud, dark cloud, bad
Speaker 1: way to live. I'm sure it was not really it was.
Speaker 1: It was stressful, but stress is good depending on how
Speaker 1: you deal with it right. Stress will make you powerful
Speaker 1: or to break you. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: just made me strong. So and it gave me a
Speaker 1: certain sense of urgency to live and to be in
Speaker 1: a moment, in the moment, because you never know. Every day,
Speaker 1: every day, Bro, there's many days that I'm imagining them
Speaker 1: in my like at the door of my apartment. The
Speaker 1: worst case scenario fifteen to twenty is serious. Everybody every
Speaker 1: day came and then as a as a fugitive, it's
Speaker 1: an enhancement FOJ enhancement. So you know you're looking at
Speaker 1: more time, you know what I'm saying. So, so what
Speaker 1: happened where we were at we were talking about how
Speaker 1: you were working out. The US Marshals carry the gym,
Speaker 1: so social media, so my ship just start going viral.
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I can't even stop it. Well, fuck it.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. And then it's like people was
Speaker 1: like reaching out to come train with me and shit
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like tell them fifteen hundred it's okay.
Speaker 1: I like, damn, I'm making money and a lot of
Speaker 1: cops was coming to work out with me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: You know, But the cops military, that was like a
Speaker 1: huge part of my like my base, Like I just
Speaker 1: loved that kind of like discipline and that hard work
Speaker 1: and shit like that. So and it just guys too,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I developed, I built.
Speaker 1: I rebuilt my life right from nothing, the right way,
Speaker 1: all legal, all ethical, everything across my t's dot my eyes,
Speaker 1: doing the most right. And then they came and got
Speaker 1: me and I ain't gonna lie care. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit relieved, you know, because I
Speaker 1: had to lie to everybody all the time. Nobody knew shit,
Speaker 1: nobody knew nothing right. And I wasn't directly telling people
Speaker 1: or I did I'm from here, or I did this,
Speaker 1: but I will walk people down a neighborhood of you
Speaker 1: know what I want them to believe from my past,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that shit. So I was like, fuck, I got
Speaker 1: a lot of more. And the marshal that got me,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, man, we've been trying to get
Speaker 1: you for a minute, but you always you travel aize.
Speaker 1: So it was always a couple of days behind you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, fuck, that's crazy. But he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're a good dude and you do a lot of
Speaker 1: good for a lot of people. To just get this
Speaker 1: behind you and move on with your life. And I
Speaker 1: was like, thank you. But in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my life about to be with y'all. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But make a long story short. You know,
Speaker 1: they moved me around all over Cali. Everywhere I'm at,
Speaker 1: cops is pulling me out like what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like guards and shit because
Speaker 1: they're always into working out and shit. And I was like,
Speaker 1: ask some old shit whatever. So they kept me here
Speaker 1: as long as they could because I couldn't bond out
Speaker 1: here because Arizona. Finally they extradite me and bond was
Speaker 1: a half million dollars. I was like, gosh, yeah, so
Speaker 1: but I did make bond and then I got a
Speaker 1: bomb ass attorney fire. He just beat the fuck out
Speaker 1: of the case. Bro wow, eat it. So he was
Speaker 1: whooping them like he was so aggressive. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm telling him like you'd probably chill, like
Speaker 1: you're gonna pissed them off. He's like, fuck them, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make them work. And he did. He tried to.
Speaker 1: He made them work, and he was so confident. He
Speaker 1: just made me Listen, if I would have went to
Speaker 1: prison at the end of it, right, you would have
Speaker 1: been like, at least we tried. I would have been
Speaker 1: the route to it. I wouldn't have been stressed out
Speaker 1: because he was so competent and confident, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You didn't like it. Probably the worst thing
Speaker 1: that could ever happen is you hire a lawyer with
Speaker 1: your freedom in the in the in the limb, and
Speaker 1: it's a shitty lawyer. Oh yeah. And the first one
Speaker 1: I hired was he was scared of everything. He was
Speaker 1: a bitch, Like for real, he was such a coward,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because initially he was like,
Speaker 1: we're going to ask for a bond reduction because that's
Speaker 1: not constitutional, YadA, YadA YadA. So when they finally got
Speaker 1: to where they had signed a prosecutor, they still didn't
Speaker 1: sign a prosecutor, but they somebody had to show up
Speaker 1: the court, and you know, he didn't want to do
Speaker 1: the bond reduction, and they coming to me panicking. They
Speaker 1: scaring me. Because they scared, I'm like, what what happened?
Speaker 1: Like this happen I don't know about So when I
Speaker 1: just ran the model through my head, I'm like, these
Speaker 1: fucking guys are scared. There's not I don't even have
Speaker 1: a prosecutor yet. They don't give you a prosecutor that fast,
Speaker 1: especially for a big case. I'm buying out of his bitch.
Speaker 1: Because he was like, save your money. I was like,
Speaker 1: I sat in there an extra month trying to save money.
Speaker 1: The fuck that I got out. So yeah, he worked
Speaker 1: for about a month. Then I seen how uncompetent he was.
Speaker 1: I got rid of him and got a shout to
Speaker 1: Brian Russo's my guy, Brian Russo. Russo, He's a g
Speaker 1: he's he's he's one of my best friends. Like that.
Speaker 1: I love that man for life. Yeah shit, he beat
Speaker 1: the case. Man beat it. So you only had to
Speaker 1: sit down for about a month, a couple of months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's I mean, you know, that's manageable. And listen,
Speaker 1: when people anybody's been locked up, it's like the worst
Speaker 1: day is the first day you're in there, especially in Arizona.
Speaker 1: That horseshoe you got, you're sitting in there with the
Speaker 1: worst the worst. They changed it, by the way, Arizona
Speaker 1: don't even want to know. I may or may not
Speaker 1: have been there recently. It's a lot better. Maricopa County,
Speaker 1: La County, and Dade County are the three worst jails
Speaker 1: in the country. You know what I'm saying. And you've
Speaker 1: lived in all three places, will I've been in two
Speaker 1: of them? Yeah, yeah, so not humane conditions. Well they
Speaker 1: changed it, uh with the new sheriff, But then COVID happened,
Speaker 1: And now when you go to when you go to
Speaker 1: jail for like you know, usually they'd send you to
Speaker 1: like Madison, and you're sitting in a room with they
Speaker 1: send you to like a weight you take a number,
Speaker 1: and you're in a waiting room. You're not even in cuffs.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. It's weird, it's funny. It seemed
Speaker 1: like that would be cool, but you want to be
Speaker 1: around people. Being isolated is not the vibe. Not that
Speaker 1: first like when you're like super like if you get
Speaker 1: arrested for some dumb shit, that first like night or day,
Speaker 1: when you're like you didn't expect it happening. You don't
Speaker 1: want to bro I've been in jail. Motherfuckers recognize me
Speaker 1: and they asked, like, what are you doing here? I
Speaker 1: mean I was only in for like a day or two,
Speaker 1: but like it's like fuck man, Like, yeah sucks. Bro.
Speaker 1: The first day is the worst, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then once, just once, you get a bed, I'm sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best. Like just just give me so bad.
Speaker 1: They make it so bad that you get something like
Speaker 1: a bed. You're like, I'm good, and it's a shitty bed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't have to use that roll a
Speaker 1: toilet paper, is a pillow anything. But but they but
Speaker 1: out here. They had me at the old County Jail.
Speaker 1: I heard La County Jail is a wild place. It is,
Speaker 1: but we was in the max security. So it's single
Speaker 1: man sales and it's bars, like you don't see bars.
Speaker 1: That's like on TV, like they roll this wheel or
Speaker 1: the bars. You know what I'm saying. And bro, you
Speaker 1: ever read the Book of Revelations or the Rapture, I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with it. I'm not a religious man, so now
Speaker 1: that am I. But I'm fascinated by literature and that's
Speaker 1: a fascinating piece of literature. Revelations that give the description
Speaker 1: of hell right, I'm telling you La County Jail, the
Speaker 1: Max security side was literally identical because they said Gabriel
Speaker 1: throws you into like the pit of hell, right, like
Speaker 1: violently throws you. And then in the walls, it's down
Speaker 1: the tunnel was like soul stuck right, screaming and reaching
Speaker 1: for you, and you never hear silence, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And in there is like you're going down
Speaker 1: down these halls. Motherfucker's you know, hanging out, bro nobody.
Speaker 1: They never stopped talking all night. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the most ignorant shit you'll ever hear, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Motherfucker's on the top tier talking to the
Speaker 1: bottom tier. They never even met each other, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Just talking about their baby mama is
Speaker 1: like the dumbest shit. So it's like for a person
Speaker 1: who I mean, I'll never say that I don't deserve
Speaker 1: to be there, you know what I mean, because everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. But that wasn't my life anymore.
Speaker 1: It's that part alone was torture, just listening to everybody
Speaker 1: just because you're like, I don't belong here, brost I
Speaker 1: listened to audio books and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I make some class music and with my hip hop,
Speaker 1: and I like hearing I'm a fan of like different
Speaker 1: intellectuals in the academia space, and I got to hear this.
Speaker 1: You're like, why am I like? This is this is this?
Speaker 1: This can't be not life. But I took it to try,
Speaker 1: like it's my punishment. I was just fucking deal with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I did do I
Speaker 1: did do. I did things that wasn't cool, and it
Speaker 1: was people that looked up to me and that that
Speaker 1: followed me down dark paths, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that shit is never cool, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean back then, like what that oh five oh six
Speaker 1: era of pushing packs was, it was also a very
Speaker 1: a lot more money was the margins were greater, oh man,
Speaker 1: because the margins nowadays, like I don't even know, there's
Speaker 1: just not I mean, obviously with the availability of weed
Speaker 1: right the secrets out you can come to la there's
Speaker 1: Instagram pages with distro like it's kind of wild, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what those guys are doing now. I
Speaker 1: know they're sick to their stomach. So take me back
Speaker 1: to like oh five oh six, what would be like
Speaker 1: average that you would pay for a pack and what
Speaker 1: did you get it off? For the West coast, the
Speaker 1: average is five hundred dollars four pound, and saying or
Speaker 1: that Reggie, that that era, that ari they call it
Speaker 1: the Arizona. They got the purple hairs, popcorn, the good texture.
Speaker 1: But it's just regular weed out door shit outdoor. But
Speaker 1: on the East coast that's like some fire ship. So
Speaker 1: the smaller the town, the more you get. There was
Speaker 1: someplace in Georgia was getting shied off like twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a pound, but like Atlanta, you getting like
Speaker 1: to nine eight hundred dollars New York seven. But I
Speaker 1: had a I had a fucking hell of a plug though.
Speaker 1: So my connect in a Z was a Pisa, right
Speaker 1: always is so no, no, it's usually a Chicano, right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: for people who don't know what piece is, the pieces
Speaker 1: like straight from Mexico. Chicano's a person who's born here
Speaker 1: in America, right, an American with Mexican descent. A pisa
Speaker 1: is a Mexican from Mexico. You bring the work cheap
Speaker 1: to the to the chicano. The Chicanos usually to connect right,
Speaker 1: but my connect was a Pisa that just is kind
Speaker 1: of like a Chicano because he grew up in America,
Speaker 1: but he's from Mexico. So he was still giving me
Speaker 1: average prices, maybe like fifty dollars less or whatever. And
Speaker 1: he was my homie. So one night we went out.
Speaker 1: I never hung out with him, but he had the
Speaker 1: typical stereotypical Mexican tolerance for alcohol, and he got fucked
Speaker 1: up right and fucking with people, and then we turned around,
Speaker 1: he getting jumped. So I went and saved the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And after that he was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you saved my life, YadA, YadA, YadA. I'm just sorry
Speaker 1: to hook you up. So he started giving me the
Speaker 1: work at his cost. His cost was, bro, what one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars? You were just printing money, bro.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, at that point, I'm sending
Speaker 1: sh it off and I'm telling the biggest thing was
Speaker 1: like getting your money back in a timely fashion. And
Speaker 1: then over time it's getting more competitive. More people was
Speaker 1: getting work, right, so it's taken longer for my guys
Speaker 1: to break down the packs and give me my bread.
Speaker 1: So I was able to, like, yo, send me six
Speaker 1: hundred six fifty. That way, they had cheaper. They send
Speaker 1: my shirt right away, yeah, or just buy it. And
Speaker 1: I was able to just middle like come get it
Speaker 1: for four hundred. If you come to Arizona, you handle
Speaker 1: getting them to where you need to get it. You
Speaker 1: get it yourself. Yeah, yeah, because then that's the worst
Speaker 1: thing is like when people like want you to put
Speaker 1: put the like the works just in the air, ye,
Speaker 1: and your money's not there yet. The biggest like stress
Speaker 1: was like when a pack go out, I'm waiting to
Speaker 1: hear that touchdown, you know what I'm saying. So, and
Speaker 1: I always well, man, I did it so long, a
Speaker 1: bo with clean streaks, never a box missing I had.
Speaker 1: We had a driver, It's amazing. He would give us
Speaker 1: an address, take it off his route. Boom, it was smooth.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yo. You were mentioning that
Speaker 1: you did some research earlier on how to stay out
Speaker 1: of the way if you're on the run. Well, by
Speaker 1: the way, what country did you end up in? I
Speaker 1: don't really okay tell those things, but what were some
Speaker 1: of the things, like if somebody was watching this and
Speaker 1: they're like, what are the things that you learned that
Speaker 1: they look out for that. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is right now, but back then, back then, I would
Speaker 1: This is something that I was afraid of that I
Speaker 1: think they do now. Like I went, you know, when
Speaker 1: you get out of jail, they scan your eyes to
Speaker 1: make sure the wrong person that get released. That technology
Speaker 1: was brand new back then, and I remember getting to
Speaker 1: one country and they were doing a retina scan and
Speaker 1: I was stressed, but nothing happened because nothing was connected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the databases is the thing. These countries are not connected.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, the states are not connected. Each state
Speaker 1: has like two or three states that they're connected to.
Speaker 1: They do they whichever they feel would be the most
Speaker 1: likely that people will go to. So New York, I
Speaker 1: mean California, Georgia is not connected. You know. I've had
Speaker 1: like a outstanding, Like I think I had a warrant
Speaker 1: in Arizona once, but I was living in Idaho at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was some traffic shitting un serious.
Speaker 1: But I was like super freak doubt. They pulled me
Speaker 1: over and they're like you're good to go. Certain. I
Speaker 1: was like, you sure about that you run out against it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I mean, if you if you've been
Speaker 1: in jail, now, these countries aren't connected unless it's some
Speaker 1: high profile case or if it's a murder, if it's
Speaker 1: some kind of rape, sexual assault, or anything to do
Speaker 1: with children, you're in the highest search shit. And that's
Speaker 1: in CIC or something like that. I might be saying
Speaker 1: it wrong, but they're tracking passports, ID all of that
Speaker 1: shit all over the place unless you got somebody else's shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's one thing. A
Speaker 1: lot of crimes go under the radar. They got to
Speaker 1: know you there, and then you could do your research.
Speaker 1: It's a Google search to see which countries have extradition
Speaker 1: treaty with the United States, because not all of them,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. So you could be
Speaker 1: somewhere like y'all, I'm here, motherfucker, and if there's no
Speaker 1: treaty in place, want fine, You're good. You may And
Speaker 1: I was gonna say you may have a hard time
Speaker 1: with visas, but you don't because Americans pretty much every
Speaker 1: country we go to except for Australia and Canada, we
Speaker 1: have an automatic visa. Now it'll run out and all
Speaker 1: you do is go to the next country to renew
Speaker 1: your visa. Get it, you just do, get stamped. Boom,
Speaker 1: come right back thirty bucks. You know what I'm saying. Crazy,
Speaker 1: I had to do that shit a lot. Well, we
Speaker 1: always like seeing the movies nowadays probably like like would
Speaker 1: you swap out sim cards and ship or like have
Speaker 1: your Oh then yeah, just whatever. Wherever I was at,
Speaker 1: I got a phone for there's little trap phone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, man. You you realize, like being in
Speaker 1: other countries, I realized how fortunate we are here. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about other like first world countries. It's like just
Speaker 1: having an abundance of legit cell phone companies, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, these people only have like one
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah. Yeah, it's and it's shitty. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like prepaid vibes, you know what I'm saying. But nah,
Speaker 1: so that that's easy. You. I feel like, well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Typically when people are on the run, they're
Speaker 1: doing illegal things to keep themselves afloat, and that's how
Speaker 1: they get caught. You know what I mean. I didn't,
Speaker 1: so I had a little bit of bread saved right
Speaker 1: that I was living off of while I was moving around,
Speaker 1: and I had one of my partners who he caught
Speaker 1: a case you know, behind me. I bonded him out,
Speaker 1: did everything, lawyered them up. Then they dropped the case
Speaker 1: on them. So I got that money back from the lawyer,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had a little
Speaker 1: bit to keep me afloat for a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But by the time I came
Speaker 1: back to the States, I was running running low, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I had a job, like a
Speaker 1: nine to five. What was your what was your first
Speaker 1: job coming back? I was just a personal trainer at
Speaker 1: the gym, and that obviously proved to be Uh, Lokia
Speaker 1: did pretty pretty well, pretty well. Yeah, where are you
Speaker 1: originally from? Like from Brooklyn, New York. So you're originally
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn? What like the boxing thing? Because you know
Speaker 1: what your YouTube channel I've been describing for a while,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, yeah, I'm just curious, what's
Speaker 1: the most popular shit, the most popular videos You've given
Speaker 1: boxing lessons? Yeah? So how like walk me through kind
Speaker 1: of growing up in Brooklyn and what resulted in you
Speaker 1: getting into fighting and all that. Yeah, Brooklyn is super competitive.
Speaker 1: It is like an overpopulated place, so you always competing,
Speaker 1: playing sports, fighting everything. So I just kind of grew
Speaker 1: up with that aggressive competitive nature. And then my grandfather,
Speaker 1: my pops, introduced me to boxing at the early age.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was the best sport. It was
Speaker 1: beautiful because I grew up when Mike Tyson was raning,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm watching Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: and his shit is poetic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a boring era, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's probably the best heavyweight era ever. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: ermaller than everybody and crushing giants, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just I loved it. So my father sent
Speaker 1: me a pair of boxing gloves and I just take
Speaker 1: him outside and just scrap with everybody. And then when
Speaker 1: I got about twelve, I got into it, you know
Speaker 1: as a sport, like as amateur boxing. So when I
Speaker 1: had my first fight and I just bro I fell
Speaker 1: in love with it. It was over from there, over
Speaker 1: from me. I still I love it like a motherfucker now.
Speaker 1: Like it was a period when I had quit and
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch boxing because it was guys that I knew,
Speaker 1: guys that like you you knew it wasn't but they
Speaker 1: stuck to the script and they're making millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: So it just pained me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's my own fault, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you think if you were to stuck with boxing,
Speaker 1: be one of those guys for sure? What everybody was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's that guy. Because here's the thing. I didn't have
Speaker 1: any support though, you know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: just me in New York anywhere, I just mean, traveled
Speaker 1: all over. I have any support with boxing. Nobody my
Speaker 1: father was with it. But it's an expensive You got
Speaker 1: to have a trainer, right, You got to go to
Speaker 1: a gym free though, I mean in a poor they
Speaker 1: do that ship for free. So you pay for your book,
Speaker 1: your medicals, your parents pay for that ship. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not expensive like that. And then the gyms that
Speaker 1: I grew up in, there's there's a bunch of we
Speaker 1: shared the gloves, you know what I'm saying. So, and
Speaker 1: and that's really the best case scenario. Like when you
Speaker 1: give people these kids, like all of this nice shit
Speaker 1: they soft, you know what I'm saying. So my gym,
Speaker 1: we just picked gloves. They stunk, They smell like blood
Speaker 1: and sweat. Just everybody. Yeah, everybody's knuckles unscraped off in
Speaker 1: the gloves, like you know what I'm saying. But we
Speaker 1: didn't see nothing wrong with it. Our our are the
Speaker 1: tarp in, our rain was just full of blood drops,
Speaker 1: just brown stains everywhere. But that was normal to us.
Speaker 1: I go back, I go to some gyms now with
Speaker 1: kids training, I'm like this, how can you be motivated
Speaker 1: in here with air conditioning? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: For real, boat, you don't you sweat? You can't sweat
Speaker 1: in them spots, so it's too plush, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like my son knows how to bout. He
Speaker 1: got hands, but I would never let him compete because
Speaker 1: it's a certain thing that you you don't get having
Speaker 1: a privileged life, you know what I'm saying, And you
Speaker 1: don't need to Like his best asset is his brain,
Speaker 1: his mind, So I don't want him damaging that. And
Speaker 1: you will damage your brain, you will damage it. What
Speaker 1: was it? Was it the rap ship that got you
Speaker 1: out of boxing? Like for you to start pursuing your rap,
Speaker 1: because it was that was part of it. But it
Speaker 1: was like hustling, like making money, because look boxing, you
Speaker 1: boxing to make money, it takes a while before you
Speaker 1: start making It takes a while. And I was in
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's camp, you know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: like something light at the tunnel and then the tunnel,
Speaker 1: but the ship was hard, bro, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's a very disciplined lifestyle. You don't do all
Speaker 1: this shit your friends do. I'm so glad that I
Speaker 1: had it though, because even though I went off course
Speaker 1: and was in the streets for a while, I never
Speaker 1: went but so far, and I had discipline, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because it's people like you know, some
Speaker 1: names ain't gonna say on here. I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: of people out there who did the most and it's
Speaker 1: a rap now, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: never like at the centising for my ship, the judge said,
Speaker 1: we see that you're not a criminal. Get out of
Speaker 1: my court room, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: like the core of me is not a street criminal whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you're an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur and at the time, I mean that
Speaker 1: was a look. At the end of the day, man,
Speaker 1: hustlers are hustlers. Bro Sometimes an opportunity presents itself for
Speaker 1: you to be a hustler in a legal way, right
Speaker 1: and in the illegal way. It's interesting, man, I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with this dude, and in the fitness industry,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of suckers, man like virtual signaling and shit. Listen,
Speaker 1: but I swear it is rough. Some of these guys
Speaker 1: on YouTube or just Instagram like their cornballs for sure.
Speaker 1: And we were talking about some shit. Was a big discussion,
Speaker 1: and the guy was trying to, like without saying me,
Speaker 1: like shit on me by saying like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I've never never been arrested, never did a crime, never
Speaker 1: been in a fight for all that matter. And I
Speaker 1: was like, that's because you're a pussy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You never did a crime because you're afraid
Speaker 1: that you'll get caught and you're afraid of the consequences.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because I think listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying committing a crime is ethical. It's not right,
Speaker 1: breaking the law is not okay, right, but some laws,
Speaker 1: what if you have your own consciousness, like why is
Speaker 1: this illegal? You know what I'm saying, And then I'm
Speaker 1: going to take a risk, right, I'll weigh out the
Speaker 1: risk versus the reward and if i'm I'm good with both,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right. That shit plays well into my
Speaker 1: life now, you know what I'm saying. I take all
Speaker 1: the risks because it ain't nothing bad gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: I lose some money, you know what I'm saying. Before
Speaker 1: it was like lose money, go to jail, somebody fuck
Speaker 1: your girl, niggas take your cards, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's not even a possibility anymore. So
Speaker 1: I'm the ultimate risk taker, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a And it just diminished my fear
Speaker 1: of a lot of things. You know, fear. Let me
Speaker 1: say this, fear is a sign of intelligence, Let's not
Speaker 1: get it twisted. But you know, fear will also keep
Speaker 1: you from living, you know what I'm saying, and experience
Speaker 1: of life at its highest. So it's just it's to
Speaker 1: this day, it's a it's a risk that I still
Speaker 1: take you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think like
Speaker 1: when you're conditioned in society to live life a certain way,
Speaker 1: and that way usually is getting a good job, getting
Speaker 1: your benefits, just making sure your bare necessities are covered,
Speaker 1: go on vacation once a year if you can afford it,
Speaker 1: get a nice like decent nice, get your charger with
Speaker 1: your payment whatever. It is like the thought of like
Speaker 1: if you are making forty five thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a year, but maybe you have some
Speaker 1: sort of passion or some sort of I don't know,
Speaker 1: want for more, but you're scared that like you're gonna
Speaker 1: walk away from the sure thing. And that short thing
Speaker 1: is shit, bro, I'm telling you because nothing You're right, bro,
Speaker 1: Like the short thing is what got a lot of
Speaker 1: people fucked up. Bro. I look at life like this, man. Like,
Speaker 1: for me, the most valuable currency is this. It's human.
Speaker 1: It is deep, meaningful connections with people that I think
Speaker 1: are dope. Right. I live my life predicated on the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm going to die. Let's not get a
Speaker 1: twisted I'm going to die. We're all going to die
Speaker 1: one day, right, So for me, bro, it's like I
Speaker 1: want people to have a dope last memory of me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, he was a
Speaker 1: nice guy, or that motherfucker was dope, whatever, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I want people to have a pleasant memory of me,
Speaker 1: because look, that's all we have, really is. You know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna miss you. They have some memories and that
Speaker 1: shit start fading, then it's just nothing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I leave a couple of things. I
Speaker 1: want to leave as many positive memories as possible. But
Speaker 1: then for my children, I leave like my mind in them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I instill the tenets and
Speaker 1: principles that I live by. And then but I do
Speaker 1: it better than what I did. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I give them a better a map for navigating life
Speaker 1: so that they can do the same. And that's how
Speaker 1: we keep the bloodline going. It's not even real blood.
Speaker 1: It's like just a mentality of consciousness that's passed down
Speaker 1: through the generations. And you know, I've done my genealogy,
Speaker 1: and you know I got you know, they track people's
Speaker 1: genomes by documents, right, that's all we have to go
Speaker 1: off of. So I've been back far but that's it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know nothing about their personalities, what they
Speaker 1: was into, what people thought. Now we got this, we're mortal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What I was gonna say
Speaker 1: with like you anyone who's like seriously into the content game,
Speaker 1: like you could pass away, but your content is going
Speaker 1: to live on forever, forever. That's a beautiful thing. It's digital.
Speaker 1: So I'm very cognizant of that. So that's what I
Speaker 1: love doing content. Listen, a lot of my content, the
Speaker 1: shit that I love doing the most, don't get the
Speaker 1: biggest push, right, But that's okay because it's like a
Speaker 1: series called mental and it'd be like just me giving
Speaker 1: certain perspectives on life, on whatever advice, and it'd be
Speaker 1: people that hit me up there, like damn, bro, I
Speaker 1: used to always skip these videos, but I was going
Speaker 1: through some shit and this one came on today and
Speaker 1: that should just hit me a certain way. I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you. I do it for that shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like it's those small like
Speaker 1: we know, it gets views and sometimes you'll do something
Speaker 1: that you didn't expect to go viral. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, like you kind of can do something and know, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna do what it's gonna do. But it's
Speaker 1: like the shit that like isn't the sexiest that really
Speaker 1: penetrates people the most. Pause, And that's like stuff people
Speaker 1: can live with that. It's not going to be the
Speaker 1: big headline. It's not going to be the you know,
Speaker 1: the positive Like I think, like even in the interview game,
Speaker 1: like I'll do interviews that have like five thousand views,
Speaker 1: but like I'll get the most feedback. Yeah, it's see
Speaker 1: is depth versus the width? Right, So, and even how
Speaker 1: YouTube work. I've been doing YouTube since twenty twelve, right,
Speaker 1: and I've had my reps and I picked their brain.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how to shit work, how
Speaker 1: we get paid for real and from what they don't have.
Speaker 1: They don't ever say exactly how because they want to
Speaker 1: prevent fraud, of course. So but I got an idea.
Speaker 1: And it's not the amount of views, it's a length
Speaker 1: of time people are watching your shit. I'll drop a
Speaker 1: two hour interview and I'll clip, I'll drop it. I'll
Speaker 1: drop that interview and then I drop clips. Right, But
Speaker 1: the big interview is where people will sit for thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: You make the most off of that, right, Bro? So
Speaker 1: think about think about that. Bro, you have a thirty minute,
Speaker 1: two hour TV show, but people watching like thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of that shit. It's a lot of time. It's not scripted,
Speaker 1: it's real, it's raw. That's value, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So and then even like if I market a product
Speaker 1: or something and I have this beautifully edited video, people
Speaker 1: won't give a shit. But if I'm just saying some
Speaker 1: shit on my cameras organic, that's what they care about.
Speaker 1: Always say that when people do ads or they do
Speaker 1: anything like influencer related, I'm like, yo, don't overproduce it, man,
Speaker 1: just fucking it's got to feel organic or people are
Speaker 1: gonna be like, fuck this, it's got to be holistic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is like for me, everything is like I try
Speaker 1: to like come from a spiritual place. So like a
Speaker 1: lot of guys come to me for advice with business
Speaker 1: and this and a third and I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you trying to do? And they're always concerned about the outcome,
Speaker 1: and that's money, how much they can make how much
Speaker 1: you make from this. I'm like, bro, I gotta be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I've never went into any of these
Speaker 1: businesses with the idea of how much money I'm gonna make.
Speaker 1: I went into it with the idea of, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make the best X y Z and
Speaker 1: people are going to be happy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be able to price it affordable or whatever,
Speaker 1: or my service. I'm gonna be the best at whatever
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do for people, and let the rest
Speaker 1: figure itself out. Everything works out. You're controlling what you
Speaker 1: can control, right, and that's all you should worry about.
Speaker 1: And as a result of that, the bag comes always.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about shit, it always comes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's some real shit, I think. Like
Speaker 1: that's one thing people get caught up in. And also
Speaker 1: intent of what you're doing. Like if you're doing something
Speaker 1: to get money quick and you're trying to like have longevity,
Speaker 1: usually that's not really how it works. You got to
Speaker 1: have some sort of passion or some sort of like
Speaker 1: care for what the passion like you're into, you're into fitness,
Speaker 1: this is what you do this is not like you're
Speaker 1: not like some some like rich dude who decided, oh
Speaker 1: there's good money and supplements. Let me start my own
Speaker 1: supplement line right right, I'm an influencer, Let me start
Speaker 1: my own protein power just because how I started lying,
Speaker 1: I'm like, whyuck? Like what if you got to ask
Speaker 1: me that shit? You ain't cut out for this shit.
Speaker 1: Like there's people, there's producers, and there's consumers in this world.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Producers figure out like you
Speaker 1: want something Like when I started the supplement game. I
Speaker 1: never took supplements on my life until I started getting
Speaker 1: like worn down and training so many people. I ain't
Speaker 1: got no energy, try like a fat burner pre work out.
Speaker 1: Whatever that she gave me energy, but it gave me
Speaker 1: like weird side effects, bro, all that shit biit alany,
Speaker 1: So I go and I started taking pictures of every
Speaker 1: something label after work long as days, I'm falling asleep
Speaker 1: every night with my computer on my laptop on my chest, researching,
Speaker 1: looking at these ingredients, trying to identify what is it
Speaker 1: that gives me the energy? What is it that gives
Speaker 1: me these side effects? I didn't like, can this work
Speaker 1: without that? You know what I'm saying. Then I start
Speaker 1: ordering shit from China, cheap shit, testing on myself. That's
Speaker 1: how I started the ship, right, so you would make
Speaker 1: your own stuff. I'm a producer, right like you're a producer,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but most of the
Speaker 1: world are consumers. It's a small amount of people providing
Speaker 1: goods and services, and most people need they need somebody
Speaker 1: to provide it so they can buy it. And that's fine.
Speaker 1: That's how the world is. I was just planning that
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Speaker 1: about like kids at school, like they're kind of simple.
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Speaker 1: the nature that the natural order of things. People are
Speaker 1: not designed to be hustling. People design to chill, to relax,
Speaker 1: to rest, you know what i mean. So there's a
Speaker 1: few weirdos that like to do a lot of shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we as we're in
Speaker 1: the animal kingdom, but we're a little bit different because
Speaker 1: we got these fucking robust cerebral cortex which the other
Speaker 1: animals don't, so we have imagination, empathy, we can remember things.
Speaker 1: We got the language, so we got all these different
Speaker 1: ways of like recording information and passing it down, and
Speaker 1: we learn more, pass it down, learn more, so we
Speaker 1: know that we can and we know we could do
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Speaker 1: the alpha. What is an alpha male? What is a
Speaker 1: beta male? For people who hear those two words and
Speaker 1: necessarily aren't educated as to what that is. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so alpha beta, these are Greek letters ab and in
Speaker 1: our society or in our culture, the alpha like alpha
Speaker 1: and the animal kingdom or in humans. It's just a
Speaker 1: more dominant male, a more a leader, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's all it is. And the betas are
Speaker 1: more of the followers, you know. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to get anything confused with anybody out there as saying
Speaker 1: alpha is better than a beta, because I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't think that. You know. Actually, I've been talking about
Speaker 1: this a lot lately, that like alpha males are becoming
Speaker 1: less and less useful in society. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Alpha male is useful for himself and maybe the people
Speaker 1: closest to him. But what's better for society is beta males.
Speaker 1: And if you look at society, our society is ran
Speaker 1: by beta males, regardless of what people think. You know,
Speaker 1: this country is a democracy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: with a system of checks and balances, so it's no kings,
Speaker 1: even the president. People. When people really understand the nature
Speaker 1: of the government, the federal government, the framework of it,
Speaker 1: and all of the state governments and city governments, the
Speaker 1: federal government is is maybe a little bit more powerful
Speaker 1: than the Royal Parliament shit in London, like the kings
Speaker 1: and queens, you know what I'm saying, Like they're just
Speaker 1: there for pageantry. Listen, Donald Trump, when he was in office,
Speaker 1: he complained all the time about not being able to
Speaker 1: get shit done because it don't matter. You don't you
Speaker 1: don't run shit. The presidents don't run shit. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's how it's set up. Is like the checks and
Speaker 1: balance is kind of at times. You know, it's crazy
Speaker 1: because I never thought about this, but like I was
Speaker 1: just talking to somebody about this last week, about like
Speaker 1: every four years or eight years, and shit will start
Speaker 1: to get done, and then whoever gets whoever gets elected,
Speaker 1: will try to undo whatever the last guy did, which
Speaker 1: is actually a good thing. It's just well, I guess
Speaker 1: it depends, right, because let's say you're on the cusp
Speaker 1: of getting something historically dope done. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it might be, whatever it's whatever, right, something that's gonna
Speaker 1: help a lot of people, free health care, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Then another guy gets elected and then they undo all.
Speaker 1: It just feels like a cycle of like because it
Speaker 1: is very cyclical as to which party is in, right,
Speaker 1: It's like it'll be eight years of a Democrat, and
Speaker 1: then it'll be eight years of George W. Bush. Then
Speaker 1: it's eight years of Obama, then Trump, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it just feels like a bureaucracy cycle
Speaker 1: of like it is, and as much as as ugly
Speaker 1: as it is, and as much as people are so
Speaker 1: hot and vitual about who's in and who's not, this
Speaker 1: is the best case scenario for everybody, for society in
Speaker 1: the world for civilization. Yeah, because we don't. They talk
Speaker 1: about corruption, voter fraud. Yes, every election is fraud, but
Speaker 1: that's to be expected. If I was trying to run
Speaker 1: for president, I'm gonna be trying to cheat to like
Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, well I think all that. Like, like
Speaker 1: you said, every election there's voter fraud, but every election
Speaker 1: ever is not. It's not total corruption. Total corruption is
Speaker 1: Venezuela is when a motherfucker went by ninety percent. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You will never find even fifty
Speaker 1: five forty five in America. It's always a percentile or
Speaker 1: two off. That's perfect. People should be appreciative of that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, everybody hates for
Speaker 1: half the country to hate the president and love the
Speaker 1: president each time, whichever way is the best case scenario.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we think of a country that's like a first world country, Russia.
Speaker 1: Russia is like a big country that's not like some
Speaker 1: fucking third world place. It's very They have McDonald's, they
Speaker 1: have Starbuckle, not anymore. Apparently they're gutting all the McDonald's
Speaker 1: out there. But if you think about a place like Russia.
Speaker 1: Russia is a first world country, but yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: very Joe Biden's not fucking getting people killed or running
Speaker 1: against them, and Jnald Trump was people killed or running
Speaker 1: against him. Nobody's afraid of Joe Biden. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, that's fair, nobody. Nobody's afraid of
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Sleepy Joe. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: just mean in terms of like opponents aren't getting each other.
Speaker 1: Mrked Right, you know what I'm saying exactly. It's so
Speaker 1: we such fucking babies here. We complain about so much.
Speaker 1: We don't know how good we have. We don't know
Speaker 1: how good we have it. And people won't know because
Speaker 1: I didn't know, bro, until I started traveling the world.
Speaker 1: And I'll be in dope ass places, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck that shit. I won't go back home. I went
Speaker 1: to so many and then the closest place I almost
Speaker 1: got a crib in Sydney, Australia at one point, right,
Speaker 1: because it's so I bet you were slaying out there.
Speaker 1: It was nice out there, Bro, The weather was dope.
Speaker 1: A bunch of iggy azelias running around yeah, all of
Speaker 1: that Australian Yeah, okay, but the people are so fucking
Speaker 1: nice and when you're traveling different countries, when you go
Speaker 1: to English speaking countries, it's just a better vibe, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Right, So it's all like this
Speaker 1: is kind of dope. But then like when COVID happens,
Speaker 1: see character comes out in hard times, right, so COVID
Speaker 1: came out right looking at Europe, looking at Australia, these
Speaker 1: motherfuckers are martial law, especially in Australia. Australia was really bad,
Speaker 1: all bad. It's all like, fuck that were free here.
Speaker 1: I don't care about people complaining, neighbor snitching on themselves
Speaker 1: out there was crazy. Yeah, bro, we and they don't
Speaker 1: got guns. Like look, I just I just realized this
Speaker 1: during the past two years. We're the only country who
Speaker 1: have a constitutional right for our citizens to carry weapons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that widespread. Everybody got them. People don't realize that. They
Speaker 1: don't know that ship they're taking that away from the
Speaker 1: Canadians right now. I didn't even know they had guns
Speaker 1: they were. Trudeau just banned handguns or is proposing it.
Speaker 1: And I think that setting up some sort of like
Speaker 1: turning date where you have to turn in your handguns
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know if it passed. I'm not
Speaker 1: like super I just I just know that like it was,
Speaker 1: it's being proposed. Get it for me. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: the thing with like the gun violence thing is like
Speaker 1: I think I do think that an eighteen year old
Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to go to the store and by
Speaker 1: two ars without fucking any sort of conversation or hey,
Speaker 1: what are you what's going on? Why do you need
Speaker 1: these guns? Like there should be some sort of background
Speaker 1: check for certain things. But I also think we have
Speaker 1: to understand that we're in America. This is the only
Speaker 1: place in the world like this place, and unfortunately for
Speaker 1: the good for the bad, this is our culture, and
Speaker 1: our culture is we have guns. I and there's more
Speaker 1: guns here than people by a whole lot. So the
Speaker 1: realistic expectation to ban and I do think, like again,
Speaker 1: I think there should be like comprehensive background checks for
Speaker 1: certain weapons. Like what like I think if if if
Speaker 1: like that kid in you've all dated, like he turned
Speaker 1: eighteen and he went to the store and bought two
Speaker 1: ar fifteens, no checks, just guns. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know if I like that that extensive background check shit,
Speaker 1: because it's like when does it stop or even or
Speaker 1: even how about a course? How about saying like a drug,
Speaker 1: like you need a license to have an AR fifteen.
Speaker 1: If you want an assault weapon, you got to have
Speaker 1: a license. You gotta go through schooling like if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm a sixteen year old. But that's not the
Speaker 1: that that won't be the root to the problem because
Speaker 1: it's not about how accurate you can shoot. It's about
Speaker 1: your temperament, your personality, you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 1: if you have any mental illness and shit like that,
Speaker 1: because then the motherfucker that be going out doing dumb
Speaker 1: shit is not how proficient. Yeah, and maybe those dumb
Speaker 1: fucks we'll see damn getting that gun is I'm lazy.
Speaker 1: I like to fucking play call of Duty all day
Speaker 1: and jerk off of my parents a bedroom. I am
Speaker 1: not trying to go down to the fucking gun department
Speaker 1: and go through six hours of machine gun class. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either, but I think this bro like, but
Speaker 1: I would do it, like I would go through that
Speaker 1: for a gun like if responsible gun owner like me too.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to have to. I don't want
Speaker 1: the government telling me I have to do shit. I
Speaker 1: think it's just certain guns though. Like I think if
Speaker 1: you get a handgun, that's that's something that I think
Speaker 1: you should be able to get a handgun and that
Speaker 1: should kill a lot of people too. I feel you
Speaker 1: you get a clip with a drum, it's got as
Speaker 1: much rounds as any other rightfle you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: here's the thing bot when when would it stop it?
Speaker 1: We allow that it's a slippery store opens up the
Speaker 1: door for tyranny. I mean, listen, I don't disagree with that,
Speaker 1: but I just think that there has to be a course. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at a course. Especially. How about this,
Speaker 1: if you're like under the age of thirty or twenty five.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're like a twenty one year old kid,
Speaker 1: like you should we should know you know how to
Speaker 1: operate this thing before you get it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. If that's the case, they should do the
Speaker 1: same with law enforcement. I agree, shouldn't be it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a twenty one year old cop. No. I think
Speaker 1: I think you know, the defund the police conversation is
Speaker 1: one that is badly branded. I suppose to brand. So
Speaker 1: I have a friend that works in government and she
Speaker 1: she's a liaison between these these groups and the government, right,
Speaker 1: And I said, why is that and she said, no,
Speaker 1: this is not is not what you think. She said.
Speaker 1: They got to aim high with these over the top
Speaker 1: requests to find some middle ground to get something done.
Speaker 1: There's not really defense. They're not defunding the police, the
Speaker 1: reallocating resources resources, which which has to happen. But but
Speaker 1: that's doesn't have a ring to it. Yeah, not for sure,
Speaker 1: but it's listen, the conversation of what we're talking about
Speaker 1: is for the micro, not the macro. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So the people they want to hear over
Speaker 1: the top like and you need the public rally behind
Speaker 1: you all of that ship. Well, people's political stances or
Speaker 1: just opinions on most things are just headline based. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely no depth to their opinions. And this is the thing.
Speaker 1: They just yell whatever tribe that they're part of, ye
Speaker 1: that talking point at you, and there's no depth to
Speaker 1: how they feel. It's just this is how I'm what's
Speaker 1: the feel. I don't get involved. I say fuck red
Speaker 1: and blue. Fuck both sides. None of them give a
Speaker 1: fuck about us. And here's the thing, I'm of the
Speaker 1: opinion of, like groups of people not voting. Let him
Speaker 1: feel your let them feel your absence. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If Black people didn't vote in this election, Biden,
Speaker 1: if Black people didn't vote in this election, Joe Biden
Speaker 1: would not have even been to the nominee. That part.
Speaker 1: The only reason that he became the nominee was because
Speaker 1: of the South Carolina primary. Listen, they were counting him out.
Speaker 1: It was Bernie's nomination, and then he fucking ran it
Speaker 1: up in the South with the older black voters. Black
Speaker 1: people need to divorce themselves from the Democratic Party, really
Speaker 1: like people. It's so emotionally attached to this ship. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even saying, go be Republican,
Speaker 1: not just, but just like just stop being so blindly
Speaker 1: loyal to these motherfuckers. And they do they do the
Speaker 1: worst for Black people, horrible things throughout histories all that,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, especially like I mean the Clinton I mean
Speaker 1: even back before that, Like, these people are so bad
Speaker 1: for black people and they just what did Clinton do?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on Arsenio Hall Show. I'm a panda,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just like Trump pander to
Speaker 1: the fucking white supremacists. He no white supremacist. He just
Speaker 1: he knows his base. The problem is is the base
Speaker 1: of every political party is the problem. So if the
Speaker 1: base of the and this is where I'm at. So
Speaker 1: like I voted for Joe Biden. I'm an independent, but
Speaker 1: I just voted for him just because I was like,
Speaker 1: the ship that's being normalized by Trump to me was scary.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just to me, like his
Speaker 1: like absolute First of all, he has zero humility, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like some of the racial overtones and
Speaker 1: undertones he was he was kind of injecting into society
Speaker 1: were just very like I'm like, this is And I
Speaker 1: know some people will say, well, at least he was
Speaker 1: blatantly like telling you how he felt as opposed to
Speaker 1: I mean, I think with some of the things he
Speaker 1: was doing, for sure, but what about See here's the
Speaker 1: thing people will take And I'm not by a Trump fan,
Speaker 1: so I'm not a fan of nobody. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm an objective observer, right, And I remember at one
Speaker 1: point I was like, fuck Trump. Why am I saying
Speaker 1: that because everybody's saying that. Why they saying that because
Speaker 1: he racist? Will make some racist? Oh the you remember
Speaker 1: sit in Virginia, all these good pty. So let me
Speaker 1: let me find the video. Let me watch it, David.
Speaker 1: I watched the ship right. That speech was taking that
Speaker 1: clip was taking out of context. First of all, the
Speaker 1: whole speech probably had thirty thousand views, not many views. Right,
Speaker 1: it's interesting, But I watched the ship, bro, and it
Speaker 1: is not how he said that. Shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is what he said. I'm paraphrasing, but
Speaker 1: he said, Look, there are good people protesting keeping that
Speaker 1: part of their history up, and they have the right to.
Speaker 1: There's good people who feel a certain way about that ship.
Speaker 1: It reminds him of the past, and this is that
Speaker 1: third peacefully pot to take it down. They have every
Speaker 1: right to. He was talking about them when he said,
Speaker 1: and he's right, like I might want to lead this
Speaker 1: part of history of I'm a protest. I want to
Speaker 1: take it down. I'm a protest. They both have the right.
Speaker 1: He was talking about that in particularly, he said nothing
Speaker 1: about like praising these people. Now here's the thing, and
Speaker 1: I always bring this to people that say, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a racist, I said, is he? Because heme on there's
Speaker 1: legislation he was on a method Man album to cal
Speaker 1: two thousands. There's legislation that nobody talks about this. H's
Speaker 1: the who's the like in the the optics of the
Speaker 1: United States, who are the most feared terrorist group or
Speaker 1: terrorist organization since the inception of our country. Well, the
Speaker 1: perception would be that it's people from the Middle East,
Speaker 1: But I think no, no no, no, I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: from American born white people. This is Kulos playing yea
Speaker 1: k Nobody has touched them. They've never been designated as
Speaker 1: a terrorist stranization. Trump designated them as a hate group
Speaker 1: and a terror organization. Nobody talks about that. That got
Speaker 1: no press, you know what I'm saying, And that that
Speaker 1: that had never been done before. Right, nobody touched it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know Obama Biden.
Speaker 1: They backed Biden's mentors. He was in the clan. He
Speaker 1: got out later in his life. I forget name. That
Speaker 1: was wrong, Yeah, because you dying, your motherfucker. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like people gotta even
Speaker 1: like the George Floyd thing man like, like taking lives
Speaker 1: is fucked up, right, But why was that given to
Speaker 1: us when it was given to us? It wasn't given
Speaker 1: to us when it happened, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The public outcr this this ship was months after that
Speaker 1: shit happened, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
Speaker 1: they're tugging at y'all. Our emotions are our hearts, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. With fear, with terror, with anger,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and people are just listen
Speaker 1: and marketing like, I'm a marketer in in essence, and
Speaker 1: we're able to predict people's behavior, human behavior. That's how
Speaker 1: we're able to fucking order inventory, do this, do that, right.
Speaker 1: Politics is no different than marketing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And human behavior is very predictable, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to emotional things. You know, they're able to guide people
Speaker 1: where they want to go by making the map or
Speaker 1: press the mad button. Yeah, I mean in the media
Speaker 1: has so much to do with that too, right. It's like, yo, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're think about how much COVID was just being
Speaker 1: fucking stuff down our throats and how much it was like,
Speaker 1: this is, this is there's only one way to feel
Speaker 1: about this, or you're a piece of shit murderer. Now
Speaker 1: is nothing en? Well, how about this? During that period
Speaker 1: of time you're talking about, after George Floyd was murdered
Speaker 1: and obviously everyone was rightfully outraged, the COVID chit went away.
Speaker 1: Nobody was talking about COVID anymore. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is, this is, this is where the eyes are
Speaker 1: right now, We're gonna with these, We're gonna pull the
Speaker 1: shit on TV because you know, this is where it's at.
Speaker 1: Here's a thing. Bro. COVID went away too. By the way,
Speaker 1: when Ukraine, yeah we got into you know, the war's
Speaker 1: still going on final even fuck with what they say
Speaker 1: about that shit like oh the Ukraine smashing Russia. Russia
Speaker 1: is the bad guys. Like all right, in my business,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Anyway, Look, life is fair.
Speaker 1: The universal laws that we all follow without knowing works out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The only things that I
Speaker 1: see is unfair, and maybe I just don't understand is
Speaker 1: like when children are born into shitty situations, are born
Speaker 1: deformed and shit, like that's the only thing I see
Speaker 1: is not fair. But other than that, shit is fair,
Speaker 1: and everything bounces out, you know. All Right, So early
Speaker 1: mentioned like maybe the government would get people health care.
Speaker 1: So let's say there's people that like, man, we should
Speaker 1: have free health care. You could get free health care.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Every socialist thing that people
Speaker 1: want that we don't they don't think we can have.
Speaker 1: You could do every capitalist thing. Every government system is
Speaker 1: here in America in some capacity. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everything however you want to live, you can live. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Listen, I personally lived as a
Speaker 1: ghost most of my life till twenty fourteen, not on
Speaker 1: the map. I was a special ops from the hood,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, until I was ready to
Speaker 1: present myself, pay taxes and do all the regular shit. Right,
Speaker 1: So anybody can nustle into any crevice they want to
Speaker 1: and live a good life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I do think that there are certain people get born
Speaker 1: into certain situations that I mean do make shit harder. Man,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like if you if you're
Speaker 1: born into a I mean, but bro, you know, like
Speaker 1: I know, typically people who are born into hard times
Speaker 1: are fucking stronger, and they most of the time story
Speaker 1: is way, You're right, the minority of those that we
Speaker 1: hear about. But I think the more of the more
Speaker 1: probably common thing is that those people end up having
Speaker 1: shitty lives because they had no role models in their house,
Speaker 1: or maybe their mom was addicted to drugs, or maybe
Speaker 1: they were born and their mom was using drugs while
Speaker 1: they were you know, I just think that, like I do.
Speaker 1: I do think like they're Yes, if you're built like
Speaker 1: you and me or people that we know, and you
Speaker 1: have a certain mindset, you're gonna get through whatever. But
Speaker 1: there's just not everyone's built that way. That's it can't be.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, No, you're right, it
Speaker 1: can't be. And and so what I was saying, like
Speaker 1: when we were talking about you brought up socialist shit.
Speaker 1: I do think like if you're a single mom and
Speaker 1: life has presented you with you had three or four
Speaker 1: kids and you don't have an education, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: those were your decisions. These are your kids. There's your responsibilities.
Speaker 1: At the same time, if you don't have a resume
Speaker 1: or you don't have a lot of qualifications to get
Speaker 1: you a real solid gig. I mean, some of these jobs, man,
Speaker 1: are like, the minimum wage in some of these places
Speaker 1: is crazy. Can you can you imagine the national minimum
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy to think that the national minimum wage
Speaker 1: is seven dollars and sixty cents selerities because it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: It should be. You would think it'd be at least
Speaker 1: ten bucks. But we got to look at this too.
Speaker 1: Here in California's what a twelve thirteen? Twelve bucks? So
Speaker 1: more expensive places, it suggested. Listen, I think it's still
Speaker 1: all fair. I think everything's fair. Look, if you don't
Speaker 1: want a minimum wage job, qualify yourself for a job
Speaker 1: that pays more. Is that something? You're right? You're right,
Speaker 1: So I don't really I don't increase your market your
Speaker 1: market viability exactly. I feel you one hundred percent. But
Speaker 1: also have a different perspective on fair right, right, life
Speaker 1: ain't fair. I don't expect it to be. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think everything's universally fair, right. I
Speaker 1: think that we are governed by sharing laws. That just
Speaker 1: is entropy, is cause and effect, it's a decision, is
Speaker 1: your destiny, all of that shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that makes it fair, Like, yeah, that's what happens.
Speaker 1: This can be measured. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: if I jog a lot, I increase my lung capacity
Speaker 1: and I can absorb breathe them better, right, last longer
Speaker 1: cardio shit. So it's in that sense it's fair. But
Speaker 1: when we start talking about morals and ethics, is not fair? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: for sure. And like there is truth in the term,
Speaker 1: Like there's no excuses because if you are that mom
Speaker 1: who has two full time jobs and you're fucking just
Speaker 1: barely hanging on, Like figure out the sixty minutes of
Speaker 1: the day where you read a book and pick up
Speaker 1: a new skill. If you're on the bus or you're
Speaker 1: driving home, have YouTube plan teaching you a new skill.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, we gotta people gotta recalibrate, Like
Speaker 1: what is success to them? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because if you're making less money, decrease your your overhead,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then find happiness and
Speaker 1: other things outside of what everybody else got. Be willing
Speaker 1: to eat shit for a little bit. I don't even listen.
Speaker 1: We human beings have such a powerful fucking attribute, a
Speaker 1: thing that changes. You meet anybody who can shift the
Speaker 1: universe with our perspective and our perception of things. Right,
Speaker 1: So if you're making what most will consider poverty type income, right,
Speaker 1: you adjust your perspective and find happiness and other things, right,
Speaker 1: You'll probably be happier than people with a lot of money, right,
Speaker 1: because look, I have a lot of money, I make
Speaker 1: a lot of I have a lot of shit going on.
Speaker 1: But happiness don't come with all of that shit. Sorry
Speaker 1: the TV right, Sorry, yeah, happiness don't come inherently with
Speaker 1: money and success. This is true. I tell people as
Speaker 1: how I deal with depression like the next person. So
Speaker 1: when I get recalibrate and find happiness, it's not in
Speaker 1: a woman, it's not in my homies, not even in
Speaker 1: my children. It's here and here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's the things that I got to work on in
Speaker 1: my own mind, me recalibrating perceptions and shit like that
Speaker 1: to readjust and find like beauty and different things. Because look, bro,
Speaker 1: I used to like have the four cars, two cars
Speaker 1: in this state, cars in this state, and this that
Speaker 1: and the third, and then one day I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this fucking nerd in in my industry. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: respect who's a goober all these cars and these funny
Speaker 1: outfits and shit, I'm like, I don't ever want to
Speaker 1: look like this motherfucker, Like I don't ever want to
Speaker 1: be confused with anybody to be somebody like him. And
Speaker 1: I was like, and I used to have to have
Speaker 1: X Y Z. I had to have this, I had
Speaker 1: to have that, right. I got rid of all of
Speaker 1: that shit, and I'm fine, one card at the time.
Speaker 1: It's all I can drive anyway, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm cool with that shit, bro. So and look,
Speaker 1: last year, I was like, fuck, I'm just get back
Speaker 1: my car ship And I'm like, why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: Not for yourself? It wasn't for me at all, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I got rid of that ship.
Speaker 1: So and went back to what made what I'm content with.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that got a bunch
Speaker 1: of cars. That's fine. I don't knocket. I think it's dope.
Speaker 1: I like cars, but I don't want that I want
Speaker 1: because when you have a lot of things, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of effort in you keeping them, maintaining them, maintaining them,
Speaker 1: and keeping people from taking. It takes from your bandwidth,
Speaker 1: it does the littlest mental space, and it's just a
Speaker 1: thing that's going to deteriorate. Bro, Trust me, I am
Speaker 1: the I am the I dude, you're talking, you're preaching
Speaker 1: to their choir. I could afford a lot of cars.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. I have a paid off car.
Speaker 1: It runs. I got a fucking suv. It's got two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it. Until that shit stops working.
Speaker 1: I've been so tempted to get like a fucking g
Speaker 1: wagon or something. The piece you have, not worrying about
Speaker 1: putting one hundred thousand dollars right, and like also, like
Speaker 1: I just bought a house, and you know that's something
Speaker 1: that I'm like, okay, I'll I'll put money up for
Speaker 1: that because I have two kids, I got my wife,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a crib. But like, what is me buying
Speaker 1: a car? My car is fucking straight, it runs, it's
Speaker 1: got a c everything's fine. It's a great car fits
Speaker 1: my family, and my wife has her car. Everything's paid off. Like,
Speaker 1: but it's like, what am I If I buy a car?
Speaker 1: I would rather take that money and like literally put
Speaker 1: it into a new camera or just something else, something's
Speaker 1: gonna generate me income as opposed to like some sort
Speaker 1: of piece of social equity, just that I'm literally buying
Speaker 1: because I'm personally content with the car I have, but
Speaker 1: I'm really getting this car. So when I people look
Speaker 1: at me differently. People, I'm not a car enthusiast. So
Speaker 1: if it's not like I'm some fucking you know, meathead
Speaker 1: who like loves engines and shit, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: do it. I could, but I have that shit in control,
Speaker 1: and check that shit don't control me, right, and listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie roll. So it's times that I
Speaker 1: am out of control when it comes to like whips
Speaker 1: and shit. So I'd be sitting there calculating, like damn, okay,
Speaker 1: I remember I had one car in mine on this budget.
Speaker 1: I get there, it's next to the newest version of
Speaker 1: that car, and I'm like eight hundred thousand dollar prices
Speaker 1: something crazy, right, And I'm just doing the math in
Speaker 1: my head. I'm like, how can I make that more?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, He's like the guys right here, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the car set I want this car like a crackhead, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get this car. I want this car. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come back tomorrow with the back you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I'm like, what what the you know
Speaker 1: what snapped me out of that that day? Like later
Speaker 1: on that day, it was around it was October twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, and we went to Horror Nights Alleen, Horror
Speaker 1: Nights Universal Yet and we took shrooms in MDMA. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a great fucking night. And it just
Speaker 1: brought me to my reality, like why would you do that?
Speaker 1: That's stupid. You don't need that, bro, I was stuck
Speaker 1: on I'm buying that car to my don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I made more money like when I was hustling. All right,
Speaker 1: I can get it back. I mean I think that
Speaker 1: that is also a natural human like instinct. It's a weakness.
Speaker 1: It's a I've been there, where I've been, you know, dude.
Speaker 1: On the smallest level, my wife was buying me a
Speaker 1: grill for a Father's Day this past weekend. Grill, no
Speaker 1: grill to cook on cause I got because I got,
Speaker 1: I got, I got a new crib. Right. So she's
Speaker 1: like y'all. I want to get you a grill. And
Speaker 1: then I realized that there's all these types of grills.
Speaker 1: There's like a woodpellet grill, and then there's a flat
Speaker 1: top grill. And I was like, I want both, so
Speaker 1: you buy me one. And I wasn't even interested in
Speaker 1: grills before, but I was like, oh shit, I need both.
Speaker 1: So I just buy one, and then you buy one
Speaker 1: as my gift. And now I got two grills at
Speaker 1: my fucking house. I don't know. I was fine without
Speaker 1: a single grill ship, but now I could cook. I
Speaker 1: could cook all kinds of ship. I started putting in
Speaker 1: perspective how much money I spent on ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, on stuff? I spent more money. Like
Speaker 1: last year, I spent more money on things than most
Speaker 1: people would make it a year or two. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Just that money's poof gone, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So a grill, I'll do that extra girl,
Speaker 1: I'll do for them business. I ain't buying all these
Speaker 1: cars and ship. Yeah. And the other thing is is like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna fuck off money, suck it off on memories. Man,
Speaker 1: go on a trip with the kids, you know, like,
Speaker 1: go go do some ship that you that's worth it, right, right,
Speaker 1: But but once again, it's your perspective and what's important
Speaker 1: to you. And listen, people are fucking stressed. I heard
Speaker 1: Kevin say Kevin Gates said on Your with You he
Speaker 1: said that, uh what did he say? That? He was
Speaker 1: comparing his life to people's highlight reels, And it's like,
Speaker 1: that's a social media ship people's lives. Your life not
Speaker 1: in a bad way. But I don't, Yeah, your life,
Speaker 1: I'm not you ain't me. I know you don't care
Speaker 1: about my life, you know, so I really don't care
Speaker 1: about what y'all do, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: got a good homie of mine who just broke up
Speaker 1: with this girl and I was like, y'all broke up
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, like it's done. And I
Speaker 1: was like they've been together for a long time, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe three or four years, and on social media they
Speaker 1: look like the happiest. I was like, bro, what he's like? Bro,
Speaker 1: the shit you don't see is the shit on social media.
Speaker 1: We've been miserable for a long time. And I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: like you could have fucking fooled me. Man, everybody put
Speaker 1: the best look for social media. I keep it waning
Speaker 1: it like, social media is a business. It's a tool.
Speaker 1: It's a tool for me. It's not my real life.
Speaker 1: It isn't one tiny sliver. It's a pie. Is that
Speaker 1: shit is not like my happiness and my this is
Speaker 1: none of that ship I'm not Why do I need
Speaker 1: to report the people about my relationships and none of
Speaker 1: that ship? Right, someone's business. It is a means for
Speaker 1: me to make make income, and y'all are consuming it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you all cool shit that y'all like.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know what I'm saying. But you can
Speaker 1: guide people whoever you want to, and yeah, people do that.
Speaker 1: It's weird to me that people that spend so much
Speaker 1: time on there just expressing their life, showing their life
Speaker 1: just to be shown it without without no desired outcome.
Speaker 1: That is also some Some people's whole business model is
Speaker 1: that if it's a business model, fine, making money, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot that ain't. Most aren't, that's true, most aren't.
Speaker 1: Those people are just volunteering their their misery for us. Well,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're giving, it's a it's a cycle. They're
Speaker 1: offering all of their information, their details, and their their
Speaker 1: their likes and dislikes for producers to identify who they
Speaker 1: can market market towards. You like, what pages do you like?
Speaker 1: What did you like? What were you looking at on
Speaker 1: the internet, because when you open up the next step
Speaker 1: there's going to be an ad for it. So many
Speaker 1: fucking I was literally looking up grill ads, like grill
Speaker 1: videos and now, dude, every time open my fucking phone,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jesus, so your supplements kind of break down
Speaker 1: to me because I like shrooms as well, obviously you've
Speaker 1: talked about. By the way, was that a good experience
Speaker 1: Halloween horn nights on MDMA and shrooms? Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 1: But like for me, me being on psychedelics, I much
Speaker 1: rather be chilling, Yeah, because because that's a lot universal
Speaker 1: studios in l A. Yeah, they're running out, they're running out,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a brave fuck it, that's a
Speaker 1: brave choice. But nah, it doesn't that. It just calms
Speaker 1: me real heavy. It's like, calm down, bro like running
Speaker 1: out trying to scare people like so it it it
Speaker 1: kind of inhibits them them to an extent to where
Speaker 1: you don't really have fear. So like everyone on there
Speaker 1: on your level that you went with. Now, I'm always
Speaker 1: on the highest level because I need a lot, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But everybody was on a level,
Speaker 1: you know. But I find more enjoyment, like in small
Speaker 1: social settings. On psychedelics, what you're like, go to shroom strain,
Speaker 1: I don't really have one. I'll do chocolates, the chocolate
Speaker 1: I got, gum, I got gummies, fair, I got a
Speaker 1: gummy company. Oh yeah, folks with it. I prefer like
Speaker 1: m D m A on some social ship ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I've never done m dm A the best.
Speaker 1: I hear that it's great, but I'm always like worried
Speaker 1: about Like you know, I grew up my O. My
Speaker 1: whole family is a bunch of drug addicts, you know.
Speaker 1: So anything that's like anything that's I know, and I
Speaker 1: know there's versions of it that aren't in pill form,
Speaker 1: but anything that's like a pill, I just freaked out about.
Speaker 1: All right, So what I do is a hard press pill.
Speaker 1: But my source, I get a pure MBMA. Do you
Speaker 1: test it? Nah? So I bought a whole kit, a spectrometer,
Speaker 1: all of that shit. But that'sit's complicated. You got to
Speaker 1: have every drug that you want to test it against
Speaker 1: to be able to test it. I don't know where
Speaker 1: to get heroin or meth and none of that shit.
Speaker 1: So my guy is legit. So I just be worried
Speaker 1: about fetols. Yeah, No, my guy's legit. So my So
Speaker 1: there's people who you know, Miley, ecstasy, MDA MDMA is
Speaker 1: the active ingredient. Maley I think is cut with We
Speaker 1: all say Maley for MDMA, but is MBMA and heroin
Speaker 1: and then ecstasies India may and meth. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So Molly and heroin is supposed to be
Speaker 1: way better than NBAA, but you're going to have some
Speaker 1: side effects and shit like that, and probably withdrawals. I've
Speaker 1: never had any of that. So nba A you're just
Speaker 1: happy as fuck, you know what I'm saying. The worst
Speaker 1: thing is you can't bust you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you're smashing you wake up fine, I go to
Speaker 1: gym in the morning. Like if I party, I gotta
Speaker 1: get up early and go to the gym. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's funny that you said what you
Speaker 1: just said, because a Southside from itaway. Mafi was talking
Speaker 1: about doing MDMA and then not getting pussy, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, well do you jerk off? He's
Speaker 1: like yeah. I was like, is it a better jerk?
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not a better jerk, but it is
Speaker 1: a longer jerk. That's bizarre. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: but but nah, but MBMA, but the best that I've taken,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a long time as LSD, I search
Speaker 1: you guys it. Yeah, so that's more visual, like eavy
Speaker 1: visual right, No, not necessarily, Well, this is what it does.
Speaker 1: So it so all of the classic psychedelics buying to
Speaker 1: the two way serotonin receptor, they all do the same thing.
Speaker 1: But LSD buys more perfect than serotonin, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So it's just a it's a longer experience and it's
Speaker 1: just now. Visually is like everything I work glasses. I
Speaker 1: got my glass on now because I have sensitive eyes.
Speaker 1: My other glasses in the car and they're tinted, but
Speaker 1: my vision is perfectly HD four eight K. On LSD.
Speaker 1: You just literally see better. For one, the most I've
Speaker 1: seen visually is just distortions, but not like anything that
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yeah, I did see one time. So one
Speaker 1: time I did do a heroic dose, right, which is
Speaker 1: of what LSD that's a hero dose is like for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, that's like if you want to
Speaker 1: change your life, it's very transformative. You did it here,
Speaker 1: So how much is that? I don't even know what
Speaker 1: the measurement is. But I did an entire dropper where
Speaker 1: you only do a little bubble, right, you do like
Speaker 1: the little tab and then so you did a whole drop.
Speaker 1: You could do the tabs, which is the easiest way
Speaker 1: to measure it, or liquid which you're supposed to dilute
Speaker 1: and then do it like that. But I never diluted it,
Speaker 1: but I knew how to get it enough. But this
Speaker 1: one day I did the whole drop. So what happened.
Speaker 1: The only thing I seen visually was the camera melting.
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there looking at it like I know
Speaker 1: that it's not melting, but it's fucking crazy that it
Speaker 1: looks like it's melting, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: other than that, it was just like it's very transformative
Speaker 1: in a sense that what it does is now when
Speaker 1: you take this big dose, it's not euphoric like when
Speaker 1: you take a hit, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that big dose, it tells it your soul, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So things that are on your heart,
Speaker 1: it magnifies it. So if it's something, if you got
Speaker 1: some demons, you gotta face that motherfucker. So I faced
Speaker 1: mine and it was just like a relation ship with
Speaker 1: a friend that I needed to fix, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you have a sense of urgency to
Speaker 1: work on it. How long did that last that day?
Speaker 1: The whole like fifteen hours or so twelve. I've always
Speaker 1: I've heard people doing the heroes dose on psilocybin. I
Speaker 1: can imagine how you can do that. I think you
Speaker 1: have to eat so many I think it's nasty as
Speaker 1: mushrooms and it's three a's. I've eaten handfuls of mushrooms
Speaker 1: and never even come close to And then you always
Speaker 1: hear people talk about like ayahuasca and DMT being Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are way different. So DMT will blast you off
Speaker 1: like ten minutes, but you're like not there. You lose
Speaker 1: track of time. Yeah, your eyes are rolling in the
Speaker 1: back of your head. One of my best friends, the DMT,
Speaker 1: said that he got a job was in a new
Speaker 1: relationship and lived like six months of life in twenty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your people think that they're gone for a long time.
Speaker 1: Have you done that. I've done DMT, but I never
Speaker 1: blasted off, So you got to smoke it. I smoke
Speaker 1: you got a free base. Yeah, the penship not the
Speaker 1: way I hear it, but it knocks. Like one year
Speaker 1: on my birthday, I did LSD shrooms and I was
Speaker 1: puffing a d M T pin. It was a good
Speaker 1: fun night, but it sounds like it wasn't nothing crazy.
Speaker 1: But just taking a hit of LSD is very euphoric.
Speaker 1: It's the best. You could sit there and do nothing
Speaker 1: and just be chilling, like, man, this is good. I'm
Speaker 1: having a good time, like listening to music and ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying on the vape. No no no, no,
Speaker 1: on a hit of LSD, like a like a normal
Speaker 1: and normal LSD. Yeah normal. So so so one night
Speaker 1: everybody came up before a fight and I take it
Speaker 1: in shrooms and LSD. Everybody else just took shrooms and
Speaker 1: so I'm good. I can't wait for everybody to leave
Speaker 1: and I lay down and I put on I've been
Speaker 1: wanting to watch that Lemonade album, all the videos from
Speaker 1: Beyonce I take It. Took me a long time to
Speaker 1: get into shit. I don't want to watch it when
Speaker 1: everybody talking about it, you you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: that shit been sitting in my head for years. This
Speaker 1: night I watched it, every fucking video, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is for I respect this woman. And then I
Speaker 1: watched Jay Z's forty four to four all his videos.
Speaker 1: It was a response to that. I'm like, wow, I
Speaker 1: was blown a fucking way. And then I watched the
Speaker 1: NAS documentary. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: he's such a dope dude, like it just you just
Speaker 1: enjoy shit. You you ain't rushing, Like I can't sit
Speaker 1: and watch no a bunch of videos back to back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But on that I watched
Speaker 1: and I had the time of my life and I
Speaker 1: gave a new found respect for all three of them.
Speaker 1: I always loved them, but it was different than and
Speaker 1: I was so inspired, you know what I mean. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I do feel like you. Like, I discovered this band
Speaker 1: called Tam and Paula on Trooms. It's one guy. They've
Speaker 1: they've sound so this guy is headlined to Coachella, Like
Speaker 1: it's one dude who plays all the instruments. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: But I was just I was in a Joshua tree
Speaker 1: at Airbnb, and uh, I don't even know how it
Speaker 1: came on. I think I searched like shroom music or
Speaker 1: something because I ate a lot, and I was in
Speaker 1: a hot tub under the stars and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the best song I've ever heard of my life.
Speaker 1: Who is this? There's some music that hits. So when
Speaker 1: you take nah nah, I think I just really just
Speaker 1: get stuck like in my thoughts in a good way
Speaker 1: and in a bad way. But I have I take
Speaker 1: that back. I took a bunch of edibles and I
Speaker 1: ate shrooms, and I got drunk as ship in Austin.
Speaker 1: Me and Freddy Gibbs were out there. He did the
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan podcast, and uh, you know I'm a big
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan fan, so uh we ended up hanging out
Speaker 1: with him again at night upstairs at uh Anton's Comedy Club,
Speaker 1: and I had these shroom chocolates and I was like, yo, Joe,
Speaker 1: like you're the reason why I Loki. I got interested
Speaker 1: in the shrooms he's like, so it's only right. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat these in front of you. So me and
Speaker 1: me and Freddy split the candy bar. No, he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I got a plan for this shit. Man. He's like,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't. Fucking He's like, it's
Speaker 1: a Tuesday night. It was a Tuesday night. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was kind of a bummer, but he was cool as fuck.
Speaker 1: But so I was already off in fucking edibles, ship
Speaker 1: face drunk, and I ate a bunch of shrooms. I
Speaker 1: split the bar with fred and then we went out
Speaker 1: bar hopping and and I feel like every time I
Speaker 1: get super fucked up on psychedelics and I go out,
Speaker 1: all the wild shit that would happen to somebody in
Speaker 1: real life that would suck if you were tripping always
Speaker 1: happens to me. So like, there was this chick at
Speaker 1: this bar on sixth in Austin who was dancing for
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes straight, craziest cardio I've ever seen on
Speaker 1: a human being. Oh no, she turned around and her
Speaker 1: face was it, you know, like it was like pixelated,
Speaker 1: like it was censored. I could was censored on cops
Speaker 1: like you know, like back then, you see you watch
Speaker 1: cops and there her face was censored. Yeah, like it
Speaker 1: was just that's weird. Bro. I had so that day
Speaker 1: when I took that heroic dose. He was with me,
Speaker 1: you know, Andre birth Throw, the boxer. He was with me,
Speaker 1: and then my old assistant and Bro. I would think
Speaker 1: she's the most righteous person here. But her face was
Speaker 1: weird as fuck, and nobody else's face was. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're good. I'm looking at she like she's looking at
Speaker 1: me like I can't even tell you what was wrong
Speaker 1: with it, but it's something wrong with it, Like her
Speaker 1: normal cute voice, right, I see sure, I said, come
Speaker 1: here real quick, I'm trying to see, and it's the same,
Speaker 1: like she's getting closed. I just like I had to
Speaker 1: turn go somewhere. I even went and looked at myself
Speaker 1: in the mirror. They say, don't look at yourself, you're
Speaker 1: gonna freak out. I'm normal, but only her face, and
Speaker 1: she's a sweet peron. I don't know what the significance
Speaker 1: of that was, you know what I mean, She's not
Speaker 1: a bad person. She's a great person. Not your assistant anymore,
Speaker 1: not only because she moved on to bigger. I thought,
Speaker 1: that's where the story was, and I thought to be
Speaker 1: like face melting. And three weeks later I found out
Speaker 1: she was stealing from Mena. Never none of that she was.
Speaker 1: She was like, she's a good friend of mine, you know,
Speaker 1: but I never told her that ship. I won't tell
Speaker 1: her that. Yeah, she took Ella's d like one time.
Speaker 1: Everybody in my office we all took it, like when
Speaker 1: we found out about it and ship, because you know,
Speaker 1: you think you can't work, but you work better, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we all took it, and
Speaker 1: she freaked out didn't work for her. I sat with her.
Speaker 1: I had a perfect high or whatever you call it, perfect,
Speaker 1: but I had to tend to her for like six hours. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's it is one of the like rare things,
Speaker 1: like psychedelics is like really a person to person basis. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because my wife will eat like a lot and not
Speaker 1: barely feel anything, and I'll eat the same amount and
Speaker 1: I'll be fucking sunk in the sunken place. Speaking of Rogan,
Speaker 1: I went to see him in Irvine improv and I
Speaker 1: ate two chocolate bars right, and he was fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1: I felt like he was on shows two You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and man, we're gonna vibe, but this
Speaker 1: is weird. He it was like, not him. Everybody that
Speaker 1: came on stage looked fucking bizarre shit, right, and he
Speaker 1: was like, this is not this is him, but it's
Speaker 1: not the texture of his skin was weird because you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of short and like like a short cave
Speaker 1: man by very much, but it was like intensified. It's
Speaker 1: crazy how short he is, Like when you actually meet
Speaker 1: him and you don't realize, like, oh, he's a short dude.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's fucking built like a fucking tree,
Speaker 1: you know. But I seen him maybe a month later sober,
Speaker 1: look like normal Joe Rogan, Uh, have you ever talked
Speaker 1: to him about maybe going on the show or anything. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. We have somebody, a couple
Speaker 1: of people mutual friends, but now I haven't had a
Speaker 1: I would love to one day everybody be like you
Speaker 1: like the black little Rogan take that as a compliment,
Speaker 1: But I don't have a reason right now. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If it's a big project I have
Speaker 1: coming out or whatever, maybe you drop a book or
Speaker 1: documentary or yeah, all things that I'm working on, so
Speaker 1: then I'll play that card. But I do want to
Speaker 1: do it just to do it. I mean I would
Speaker 1: if we could just keep rocking. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I with him hard. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I saw you had a bench press competition with Bradley Martin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's also a big YouTuber. Yeah that's the only Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what's your like? How's he as a dude? Because
Speaker 1: I would see him like, well, Steve will do it
Speaker 1: and the nelkboards and he solid, he slid with me. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know he's got a really dope gym in the valley. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He We was cool Lure back in the day. But
Speaker 1: you know, I just did his podcast like last week,
Speaker 1: and I just told some real ship on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, man, we're cool, but I felt like
Speaker 1: you kind of like used me a little bit, like
Speaker 1: because my my channel was up, he didn't have a
Speaker 1: channel and I was popping, and I've seen he went
Speaker 1: to me for a while, then he went to this
Speaker 1: one and that one. You know what I'm saying, which
Speaker 1: the boys really fucking yeah, And I had to say this,
Speaker 1: I had to to say, it's not that you did
Speaker 1: anything wrong. You identify what was going to be beneficial
Speaker 1: for your acceleration in the space. That's fine, it's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I just don't do that. Like my
Speaker 1: relationships with people are genuine, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And so that just kind of felt weird, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Unfortunately, a lot of people are like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he took it well. We talked about we're good. We solid.
Speaker 1: That's my guy, you know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 1: a love for him. I'm proud of him. He do
Speaker 1: his thing, but yeah, but he solid, bro, he solid.
Speaker 1: He's one thing that was dope about him when he
Speaker 1: came around. Back then, it was like there was so
Speaker 1: many people that wanted to like come getting videos and
Speaker 1: shit right, I'm like, all right, well, come get down
Speaker 1: with us, because we're going to hell and back, and
Speaker 1: motherfuckers will come up late to try to be a
Speaker 1: part of it, and and I'll be telling my videuy,
Speaker 1: like don't have this, nigga, then just turn the camera
Speaker 1: off when he's doing the ship because like, nah, you
Speaker 1: do all of the ship with us. You ain't got
Speaker 1: to be as strong, but put in the effort. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There was a guy. I remember
Speaker 1: a guy because every I don't really do anymore, but
Speaker 1: people will fly in pay two grand to train with
Speaker 1: me like that. And in the video, and I remember
Speaker 1: a guy quit like first two exercises, right, he just
Speaker 1: can't really Yeah, and then but I felt like he
Speaker 1: just wanted to get his picture with me and all
Speaker 1: that shit. He met you, he hung out and then
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, how can I get that with
Speaker 1: the squad? I was like, one, nigga, you quit, Like
Speaker 1: that's not what I do. Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm so pure everything I do.
Speaker 1: It's just weird when people are on that kind of
Speaker 1: shit around me. It's like you didn't know, motherfuckers. But
Speaker 1: and I just felt like everybody's pure, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But most people aren't. Hey, we got to
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Speaker 1: back to the interview. Are you still eating only one
Speaker 1: time a day? What is like? Because you know some
Speaker 1: people do the keto thing, some people are vegan. You know,
Speaker 1: what would be in your opinion kind of like obviously
Speaker 1: you're an expert in terms of bodybuilding, health, exercise all that.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the best diet. It would
Speaker 1: depend on that individual. It depends on what you can sustain,
Speaker 1: what's sustainable for you, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: would depend on what works for your body. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a it's so many variables. I
Speaker 1: will never say this is the way for everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like a diet. Diet thing is kind of
Speaker 1: like not one size fits all. It's not and it's
Speaker 1: not rocket science either, you know what I mean. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the space that over complicates
Speaker 1: the information for people, so they feel like they need
Speaker 1: to be with these people. I'm not doing that at all.
Speaker 1: I've never done that. So I'll communicate the information in
Speaker 1: a very digestible way because that's how I needed to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I ask a lot of
Speaker 1: questions when I'm trying to understand something, So I think
Speaker 1: like that when I'm trying to educate people on certain
Speaker 1: things and return they kind of stay with you anyway
Speaker 1: because they fuck with you, they respect you, they know
Speaker 1: that you're giving them good information. So yeah, I never
Speaker 1: scare people with information, you know what I'm saying, unless
Speaker 1: they're unhealthy. I'm like, you're going to die right right right?
Speaker 1: You know when you say you eat once a day,
Speaker 1: it's one meal a day? Like will you have a
Speaker 1: protein shake? Will you will have a three workout? Is
Speaker 1: one meal a day? Like today I had a beef
Speaker 1: jerky and some piece of cheese on the way up here.
Speaker 1: I was just hungry. Not a meal. Not a meal.
Speaker 1: I have a meal park when we leave here or
Speaker 1: get back to OC. But yeah, there's sometimes I do
Speaker 1: have a protein shake, sometimes have a shake around the
Speaker 1: time on my meal. But it's just one meal. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the reason I do it
Speaker 1: is for like the body, our bodies. First of all,
Speaker 1: there's two killers. There's two epidemics right in this country.
Speaker 1: And it's not COVID. It's heart disease and type two diabetes, right,
Speaker 1: and both of them. If heart disease and diabetes is
Speaker 1: a bullet, food is the gun. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We get it about how much we eat and the
Speaker 1: shit that we eat. Right, So I fast, like I
Speaker 1: do a fast once a week every Wednesday, twenty four fast.
Speaker 1: But so every Wednesday you're fasting, correct, So I fasted
Speaker 1: a lot throughout the years. Right, I'm Muslim, not super religious,
Speaker 1: but it's still in the cultures. I'm just used to it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I kind of came
Speaker 1: up with my own reasons for fasting outside of health purposes.
Speaker 1: But the health purposes is you're giving your digestive system
Speaker 1: a break, right, You're giving your brain a break. Because
Speaker 1: people don't realize that forty percent of the food or
Speaker 1: the energy that you're putting in your body is being
Speaker 1: used up by your brain. It's crazy. The brain is
Speaker 1: an expensive piece of real estate, and it's not the
Speaker 1: biggest you know what I mean. So pound for pound,
Speaker 1: your brain's eating up most using most of the energy
Speaker 1: that you're using you're putting your body. Now, with that,
Speaker 1: it's slowing down different mechanisms in the body. So if
Speaker 1: you got a little virus, a little infection, your immune
Speaker 1: system is not working as properly. If you always full
Speaker 1: of food, because you have to digest that shit. With digestion,
Speaker 1: it's like one two, it's like four or five different
Speaker 1: stages of digestion. So that's so much work that your
Speaker 1: brain got to do and your body got to produce.
Speaker 1: That's why people get tired when they eat, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean for sure. So for me, me being a
Speaker 1: high octane person, always on the go with a lot
Speaker 1: of shit to do, I want to be at my
Speaker 1: optimal levels at all time. You're not optimized when you're
Speaker 1: full of food, You're not. You know, our ancestors when
Speaker 1: they were hunters and gatherers, the motherfuckers ate a couple
Speaker 1: times a week, let alone a day, you know what
Speaker 1: i mean. And when they went out and hunted for food,
Speaker 1: or search or forge for food, or had the track
Speaker 1: a fucking elk for miles, they did on an empty stomach.
Speaker 1: On an empty stomach, you have a heightened sense of
Speaker 1: awareness and alertness, you have more energy, all of these things.
Speaker 1: This is necessary and evolutionary biology because we have to survive,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It doesn't get you get
Speaker 1: a dump of a pleasure sensors when you eat, so
Speaker 1: you're not trying to hustle, you're not trying to get out.
Speaker 1: Of course, you eat, you chill, you relax, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a reward so you can go
Speaker 1: and do it again when it's necessary. So, but when
Speaker 1: you're not, it feels uncomfortable. But you're operating better now.
Speaker 1: For me, I shift my perspective, right, I recalibrate my thinking,
Speaker 1: so I'm not uncomfortable when I'm not eating. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm actually more comfortable because everybody else
Speaker 1: is tripping out about having to find food, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I don't need it right and
Speaker 1: you know, just to you know my brain, I just
Speaker 1: think more clear. I make better decisions. You know. I
Speaker 1: don't have that brain fag when I eat too much,
Speaker 1: like a weekend, I just go hard. I got brain
Speaker 1: fog on Monday. I'm saying a lot. Will you do that,
Speaker 1: like a once once a week at least, just going
Speaker 1: not really? You know, people have their cheat day, maybe
Speaker 1: it's once a month, once a while. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a setback for me. So it's another thing, bro,
Speaker 1: I have a different relationship with food. I don't look
Speaker 1: at food is not a pleasurable thing for me. It
Speaker 1: tastes good when I eat it, but I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't associate like you like a food. Nah, I'm not
Speaker 1: at all. Food is just a means to when it
Speaker 1: it's just fuel for my body. That's it. You put gas.
Speaker 1: I don't like gas, but I got to put it
Speaker 1: in my car to drive it. It's the same relationship
Speaker 1: with food. Even if I go out nice restaurant, I
Speaker 1: barely eat. I'm drinking, you know what I'm saying, having fun.
Speaker 1: I'm there for the vibes. I might eat a little salad,
Speaker 1: just something. When I eat, I'm not motivated, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When I eat, I want to kick
Speaker 1: my feet up. But I mean, obviously, you're a big guy.
Speaker 1: You have a lifestyle that is burns a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: So do you get I mean, you obviously have a
Speaker 1: big meal one today and then protein shake. But my
Speaker 1: meal is at the end of the day. So when
Speaker 1: you don't eat as often, you have better protein synthesis, right,
Speaker 1: So that means you have a better mechanism of your
Speaker 1: body breaking down proteins, carbs, and fats and shuttling it
Speaker 1: to the right places that you actually need. It's no excess, right,
Speaker 1: So people actually build muscle better when they eat less.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Now, what you're used to
Speaker 1: seeing is people eating five six times a day, so
Speaker 1: they're going to build a lot of muscle regardless. A
Speaker 1: lot of fact too, so, but lots of chips. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all that shit, that's crazy. But sorry, my friend over
Speaker 1: there's a vegetarian and alway does is these fucking noodles,
Speaker 1: chips and cheese pizza. Worst died ever anyway. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and then faster and just fasting in general,
Speaker 1: like your body reaches a it does this thing called autophagy.
Speaker 1: And what it does is it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: starvation mode, right, and they start cleaning out all the
Speaker 1: dead cells. You know what I'm saying. It's a regenerative
Speaker 1: thing that I do once a week, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I reach outopogy during the during
Speaker 1: that one day period. Yeah, no, I know I do
Speaker 1: it in a one day period, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if I do it in my one throughout the day
Speaker 1: once a day like day. Yeah, And I have slowed
Speaker 1: down my metabolism. So you always hear fast metabolism that's healthy.
Speaker 1: It's no healthy or unhealthy metabolism, it's just effishent or
Speaker 1: any fishing. A fast metabolism is actually in an effiicient metabolism.
Speaker 1: And if you look at across the fucking animal kingdom,
Speaker 1: the animals that eat the most lived the shortest years.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, big cats, you know the
Speaker 1: predators animals that live the longest. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: predators too, but they eat very few times, like crocodiles. Sharks,
Speaker 1: shit sharks live like five hundred years. A greenland shark
Speaker 1: live five hundred years. They have no reason to die,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The turtles don't eat it,
Speaker 1: and it can be a hundred years old, right. They
Speaker 1: eat once a year, once a year x amount of months,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but they have extremely
Speaker 1: slow metabolisms, and you would you get that by eating less.
Speaker 1: It's simple. Now, if someone eats a lot and have
Speaker 1: a slow metabolism, that's a problem. They're fast, yeah. Or
Speaker 1: if somebody eat once a day and have a fast metabolism,
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna work. Right. So if you have
Speaker 1: a faster metabolism, but you slow it down or speed
Speaker 1: it up, depending on how you eat. My shit used
Speaker 1: to be like rapid fast when I ate a lot.
Speaker 1: But so so I know, like my size, it would
Speaker 1: seem like it's how is it likely I can be
Speaker 1: two fifteen to twenty on one mill of day. I
Speaker 1: used to be too fifty. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was eating a lot what I'm saying, so that
Speaker 1: ain't healthy. Even though I look great, I got my
Speaker 1: blood work, I was trending towards being pre diabetic. Two
Speaker 1: fifty is two fifty. You don't give a fuck if
Speaker 1: his muscles or not, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I was eating fucking every two three hours. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Spike and insulin become an insulin resistant
Speaker 1: That's how we get diabetes. So I slowed that shit down,
Speaker 1: just took matters into my own hands, started doing going
Speaker 1: back to one mither day. I used to do it
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Wow. Yeah, what would you say
Speaker 1: like your routine? Do you have a routine every day
Speaker 1: or does it change because you're obviously a busy guy.
Speaker 1: You retort, you record content, But is there like a
Speaker 1: I'm working out during these hours, have my protein shake
Speaker 1: after you do a protein shake right after your workout,
Speaker 1: or it depends on how I feel. So I do
Speaker 1: have a routine, And yeah, there's some variations like say
Speaker 1: if I come out to LA or whatever, but typically
Speaker 1: I'm at the gym at seven thirty. Well, I get
Speaker 1: up around five thirty five o'clock, I'll wake up. I'm
Speaker 1: out the bed five thirty five forty five. I meditate
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, and then I'll I'll either
Speaker 1: sit and read or I'll play something and lay back down,
Speaker 1: like an audiobook or something or a video I wanted
Speaker 1: to learn about. And then I'm out the door train
Speaker 1: and then my little crew that we all train together
Speaker 1: early and then we go sit in asauna and just talk,
Speaker 1: talk shit, whatever. And then from their home, shower, get dressed,
Speaker 1: and I'm at the office. I'm either shooting content or
Speaker 1: we're in meetings or phone calls, just handling my shit
Speaker 1: during the day, and I'm usually there till about six seven.
Speaker 1: It depends on what I'm working on. Sometimes I'll work
Speaker 1: from home if I don't have to shoot something and yeah,
Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day's kids or
Speaker 1: my own little time shit like that. What are some
Speaker 1: I've seen you train with rappers like Jim Jones and Miami.
Speaker 1: Who are some of the artists that you've trained with
Speaker 1: that could hang with you a bit with effort? Jim
Speaker 1: Jones Jim, Yeah, he seems to take it very serious
Speaker 1: in terms of just one percent Yeah, Jimmy would be
Speaker 1: out partying. He come balance that shit out in the gym.
Speaker 1: He rocks a legit rock star. Yeah, but he he
Speaker 1: he stay on. If Jimmy wasn't training the way he do,
Speaker 1: he probably be very unhealthy and look like shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, he's a beast. I'm both Yeah,
Speaker 1: a beast. So I respect the hell out of jim Jones.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot to be a rock star because
Speaker 1: there's effort in that. He's a rock star. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's that guy. And then on top of that to
Speaker 1: still have the discipline or find the energy to get
Speaker 1: up and hit the gym. You have to. You have
Speaker 1: to or you're going to die unfunded death. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We kill ourselves with the shit that
Speaker 1: we do for fun, so you try to balance it
Speaker 1: out with training and trying to eat right. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were saying that. Do you think because I do
Speaker 1: think that, like we said earlier about diets, like it's
Speaker 1: a not a one size fits all thing, do you
Speaker 1: think there's negative drawbacks to people who cut meat and
Speaker 1: animal products out of their diet. Yeah, I mean there
Speaker 1: can be a deficiency and a lot of different nutrients, iron, protein,
Speaker 1: like you name it. However, there's supplementation, there's other ways
Speaker 1: to get these things, like if you're taking supplements, you
Speaker 1: can probably go to like gen C and find stuff
Speaker 1: to kind of substitute. Yeah, it's ways around it. But
Speaker 1: I think like it's all about balance because I ate
Speaker 1: a vegan diet for a couple of years. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was necessary. I wanted to try
Speaker 1: it just to see and it got it was easy, right,
Speaker 1: But I don't think I like me so yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. Something like a or or big filet of
Speaker 1: salmon blackness if it's cooked the right way, cooked the
Speaker 1: right way exactly salmon. Salmon's got to be prepared right yeah.
Speaker 1: Otherwise Yeah, but uh, what is obviously you have the
Speaker 1: supplement line. Where can people find that? I know it's online,
Speaker 1: but is it Ambrosia Collective dot com or at all
Speaker 1: the vitamin shops about a thousand stores throughout the country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big look. Are you trying to get in
Speaker 1: G and C? And No not really. They don't have
Speaker 1: the best terms, and I really my business is direct
Speaker 1: to consumer. Get yoked. There's a I don't know if
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Speaker 1: It's kind of it's like a lot to manage for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the trade off is like not worth it.
Speaker 1: Could rather just direct a consumer at that point, that's
Speaker 1: my that's where we make the money at you know
Speaker 1: what i mean. So Ambrosia is a full line of
Speaker 1: this sports nutrition supplements. See, we come from it from
Speaker 1: a holistic approach. Fuck that were coming from it from
Speaker 1: a spiritual approach. Because every product that we put out
Speaker 1: is good for you, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we max out on the science, We spend the we
Speaker 1: put a bag on ingredients that are new to get
Speaker 1: exclusivity deals, you know what I'm saying. We get third
Speaker 1: party testing. We have G and C certification, so the
Speaker 1: highest and highest of quality control we have. We we've
Speaker 1: been doing since day one, so me and my partners,
Speaker 1: we had other company before this, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a money play. It was like a legacy play, like
Speaker 1: let's do the dopest fucking shit, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and make it affordable. So that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 1: And we wasn't worried about making money. We was just
Speaker 1: not wanting to lose money. But like after like a
Speaker 1: year a year or so, we you know, doing taxes
Speaker 1: and we're looking at sales. I wasn't that bad, but
Speaker 1: not even pushing it right. So when I came back
Speaker 1: here from Arizona, i sold my other company, went all
Speaker 1: in with Ambrosia, and we just fucking just just we
Speaker 1: started with like doing tours like the United Kingdom, United States, Australia,
Speaker 1: all the English speaking countries, just hitting the ground, hustling
Speaker 1: old school style and that shit works. I was doing
Speaker 1: a lot of like my marketing is education on the
Speaker 1: ingredients and the importance of these products because they're hard
Speaker 1: to sell. It's not like just a fat burner. I
Speaker 1: have a fat burner now, but I barely put a
Speaker 1: fat burner out less than a year ago, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I've been in business for years, so
Speaker 1: I went backwards doing really complicated products that it's not
Speaker 1: easy to sell. But it made me a beast with
Speaker 1: marketing because you know you, And it gave me a
Speaker 1: lot of credibility with my fan base because I'm educating
Speaker 1: them on these ingredients. You're not selling them bullshit either,
Speaker 1: It's like not bullshit at all. So and we stand
Speaker 1: by everything, like we have batch we have codes you
Speaker 1: could scan to see which batch this came off of,
Speaker 1: and the testing this that and the third. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people ain't doing that. So these people are
Speaker 1: smart nowadays. You know what I'm saying. It's not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent necessary to go to that extent, but the
Speaker 1: fact that we go to that extent, it gives us
Speaker 1: a lot of credibility, and in return, it gives us
Speaker 1: a lot of respect amongst our peers, which I value,
Speaker 1: and in turn, the sales come in. So you have protein,
Speaker 1: I mean you know I have protein. You have you
Speaker 1: have a whole line of a whole lot ofmlement. So
Speaker 1: what would I guess what would be your like let's
Speaker 1: say like a big brand like Ghost. What's like a
Speaker 1: difference between like what everyone else is doing and what
Speaker 1: you're doing in terms of just ingredients. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Ghost is doing ingredient wise, yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: what they're doing marketing wise is really cool. They got
Speaker 1: a dope energy about their business, about the marketing, the branding,
Speaker 1: and I fox with it. I'm a I love marketing,
Speaker 1: I love people being I love people being innovative about
Speaker 1: this ship. Like mine, I take a whole different approach.
Speaker 1: My shit is more like Illuminati vibes, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like you like, there's there's little encrypted messages
Speaker 1: on labels. Even when you pick it up you feel it.
Speaker 1: It's embossed with hieroglyphics. You know what I'm saying. Everything
Speaker 1: means something. And then I name products based on just
Speaker 1: different places of the world because I want to include everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: like just like window is a Swahili word for movement,
Speaker 1: and that's a joint support product. Plantas plants in Spanish.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Pacha Mama is my coffee.
Speaker 1: That's Mother Earth like in Peru, get your coffee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a coffee and listen even that high level.
Speaker 1: So it's single we buy it from. We source our
Speaker 1: coffee beans from one family, a farm in Peru. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The most coffee nowadays is like
Speaker 1: hot dogs. It's just like shitty beans from wherever. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like hot dogs is just a
Speaker 1: bunch of mixed up from whatever whatever animal ours. A
Speaker 1: single source from one family, one farm, So we've been
Speaker 1: getting from them for years, so we feel good about that.
Speaker 1: So to honor them, we name the coffee Pacha Mama
Speaker 1: something Peruvian, you know what I mean. So just being
Speaker 1: mindful of the world that we live in, and you know,
Speaker 1: and making people feel included, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's so I wanted to ask you before you get
Speaker 1: out of here. You're somebody who's got so much going on,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I get to the point where I'm like
Speaker 1: pushing myself so much in terms of just things that
Speaker 1: I got my hands in at the same time that
Speaker 1: it can be become exhausting and like sometimes take a
Speaker 1: toll on like the personal side of my life. How
Speaker 1: do you deal with managing so much? Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: over that home now. So you know, previously it was like, man,
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't have nothing to give nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like because you're because you're your days over and
Speaker 1: you just finished. So now it's a little different man,
Speaker 1: because things are automated and Brosia, it had to sit
Speaker 1: on my shoulders for a couple of years. It has
Speaker 1: a life of its own Now I barely do content
Speaker 1: for it, Ambrosia anymore. It's such a machine. It's its
Speaker 1: own brand now business, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's my face is not on the labels like my
Speaker 1: very first company. I had to put me on there
Speaker 1: so people know it's me so they buy it. But
Speaker 1: that's a cheap trick to get sales, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I didn't want that for this. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be like from A to Z,
Speaker 1: be excellent with everything, like the marketing, the names of products,
Speaker 1: like what's in it, the ingredients to taste, like everything
Speaker 1: had to be on points. So it's his own entity now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a beast and we
Speaker 1: we we constantly have vcs courting us trying to throw
Speaker 1: big millions of dollars to be a part of it,
Speaker 1: to buy a Yeah, what about how often do you
Speaker 1: shoot content like do you ever just stack it and
Speaker 1: then say cool, I got I have a ton of shit.
Speaker 1: So so it's ship that I'll see an ad I
Speaker 1: forgot that I did, you know what I'm saying. Yeah
Speaker 1: that was a while ago. Yeah, so it's a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. So but I'm always when I think of
Speaker 1: I don't like be forcing myself to shoot ship. I
Speaker 1: like to be let the creativity come naturally, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Or if I'm inspired by something, I'll
Speaker 1: go and record. But I'm not forcing myself to shoot
Speaker 1: on a particular schedule, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I am trying to get more consistent with the podcasting
Speaker 1: because I really enjoyed that, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: and I have I can share the creativity by having
Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody else. It ain't just me coming
Speaker 1: up with everything, right, So but yeah, but with that,
Speaker 1: and honestly, the thing that I like doing the most
Speaker 1: professionally is stuff for other people because we also I
Speaker 1: also have like a small media company in which you know,
Speaker 1: I launched, help people launch YouTube channels and all kind
Speaker 1: of shit. So I like doing that, even doing the
Speaker 1: YouTube thing for a while, I mean, and the social
Speaker 1: media thing. It's crazy too, because like I think I
Speaker 1: might have been following you already and I saw somebody
Speaker 1: from Arizona post you and then I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: that's sind Q. What the fuck? Like what happened to
Speaker 1: sin Q? And now I know because you was like
Speaker 1: just literally disappeared off the map because man up squad
Speaker 1: was that That was like prior to Willie signing with DTP, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta he got on. He still you know,
Speaker 1: that's my little bro, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: to connect ask him that that was me, that was
Speaker 1: my story. You know what I'm saying, Like literally, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Got Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I was doing radio on Boise, Idaho two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine when that album came out, and I bought ten
Speaker 1: copies from the record store Love You. Willie wasn't the
Speaker 1: strongest body work. Yeah, you know what, but it was
Speaker 1: a moment he first state it was a moment for crazy.
Speaker 1: He Like I used to tell him, like, bro, what
Speaker 1: the fuck dore you doing in Arizona? Get out of here,
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta. You should have moved to He should
Speaker 1: have moved to Atlanta. I told him hang out with scrap,
Speaker 1: go be in the club. I'll send bread out there.
Speaker 1: So you could just grease the DJs whatever, do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, play the game. But he wanted to
Speaker 1: be a big fish in a small pond, and I
Speaker 1: get it. I guess. Like also, like he had like
Speaker 1: a record like Hood Dreamer with Bob, which was a
Speaker 1: little before its time because Bob hadn't really popped popcast.
Speaker 1: That shit was dope. Though he had some ship, he
Speaker 1: had some good records. Body marked up a classic classic.
Speaker 1: The dude is talent it But I remember that they
Speaker 1: was pushing so hard, so fast to get to drop
Speaker 1: that album. Like I think they fucking up. They're gonna
Speaker 1: drop album. Ain't nobody gonna fuck with it? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think the timing wasn't right, and
Speaker 1: I think just spiritually, my guy wasn't in a good space,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A good classic era of
Speaker 1: as hip hop. There was Carly Hustle had the street
Speaker 1: Heat of the week. Shout out to Carly. There was
Speaker 1: Exposed Magazine. Were you ever on the cover of Exposed?
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody was eventually, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I know, I was, I was on the cover.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it because it was around of time
Speaker 1: that all the ship was happening. They were like, damn,
Speaker 1: this magazine's getting circulated and I'm going through having videos
Speaker 1: pulled over YouTube like yo, take this ship down, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it was that was a
Speaker 1: scary time for them, a scary time. You still have
Speaker 1: children in as just one daughter, like I got my
Speaker 1: my my son, my six year old that was with me,
Speaker 1: and my six year olds with me, and my fifteen
Speaker 1: year oldaughter lives in Arizona. She go back often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go out there. She comes out here too, but
Speaker 1: right now she's in dance, so I gotta go out there.
Speaker 1: It's all summer. So I'm surprised you just didn't get
Speaker 1: the giant, giant, giant, giant mansion out there. I don't
Speaker 1: like Arizona, bro, and I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: chilling it in Arizona. That's not impressive, not at all.
Speaker 1: I would to kill it out here. It's not impressive.
Speaker 1: That's why why do you think I'm fucking here exactly?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Charles Barklay and Sun's jerseys
Speaker 1: behind you and we're in the Diamondbacks hat. But I'm
Speaker 1: not going back. So I go back and visit DJ,
Speaker 1: I see my family, but I'm never moving back. I
Speaker 1: would move back like when I'm older. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like in the peak of my life. I'm not
Speaker 1: living in Phoenix. When I retire, I might retire in
Speaker 1: fucking you know, Paradise Valley or some ship, but I'm
Speaker 1: not fucking like, for the record, it's fucking beautiful saying.
Speaker 1: I was in Paradise Valley before I left, but I'm
Speaker 1: with old people, like it's a great place to get comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not there. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Remember
Speaker 1: I said I was gonna buy big ass house. I
Speaker 1: was like, why would I do that? Right now? I
Speaker 1: got so much shit to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, shit was getting kind of stagnant
Speaker 1: for me while I was there, you know what I'm saying. Opportunities, creativity,
Speaker 1: all kind of shit. And you were in Miami for
Speaker 1: a secon, right, yeah yeah, And I was back and
Speaker 1: forth Arizona Miami, so Miami was popping. So right now
Speaker 1: you have your headquarters are in Orange County. You got
Speaker 1: you got a team that just works with you on everything. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's dope, man. Yeahsp without my team, of course it ain't.
Speaker 1: My team is the team like we all, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, equal units one. That's dope, man. And
Speaker 1: then uh, just you're gonna just keep expanding. And you
Speaker 1: say you're working on a book. Maybe you have been
Speaker 1: writing a book for years, but your book's gotta be crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm a good you know, and you'll know what it's
Speaker 1: time to drop it too. I'm a good writer, but
Speaker 1: I'm not a discipline writer. So I haven't written now.
Speaker 1: I wrote a couple of weeks ago, but it's it's sparse,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's also if you just
Speaker 1: tell your story about your life, could be a movie,
Speaker 1: low key. I mean on the run ship? What selling dope?
Speaker 1: Going on the run? If Pain and Gain is a
Speaker 1: fucking movie with Mark Walberg in the I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was loosely based.
Speaker 1: I think it was. That's dope. I mean, and rewatch
Speaker 1: that and put your stomach up away. Bro, come on, man,
Speaker 1: you know I feel like that today. Sometimes you got
Speaker 1: to let that gut hang mane there it is. Well listen,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming through. Man, Go follow this guy,
Speaker 1: Go subscribe to the YouTube channel, Go buy some supplements
Speaker 1: and brosia. Yes, the pre workouts mushroom based. Yes, it
Speaker 1: is adaptagen so uh yeah. Kinetic is the world's first
Speaker 1: mushroom based pre workout tastes amazing. You get just good
Speaker 1: pure energy, but it also like adapted just help you
Speaker 1: adapt to stress better. You know what I'm saying, stressful situation.
Speaker 1: So it's is bomb. I know people who take like
Speaker 1: a micro dose before they work out, like legit, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like scibon, yeah, yeah, Like I don't. Micro dos
Speaker 1: is a waste of mushrooms for me. You're a fucking beast.
Speaker 1: This guy's like I did a hero. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You went to fucking Universal studios where people
Speaker 1: are jumping out dressed as monsters on lait on N D,
Speaker 1: M A and true. Yeah you're a wild boy. Man. Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to say to you, man, I'm proud of you. Bro.
Speaker 1: Like seeing people from the hometown come up and killing
Speaker 1: it here. I don't know if you remember the night
Speaker 1: y'all took over Friday Night flavors. M hmm. With Matt Locks.
Speaker 1: It was no, no, it was just like a cool
Speaker 1: moment and I was there. I was like just hanging
Speaker 1: out as an intern. It was I want to say,
Speaker 1: it was like you wially I remember that night. Ocean
Speaker 1: was their shouts to Ocean, shouts to my guy kaleik Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot Ocean was in manup squad. Damn y'all. I
Speaker 1: had to live. That feels like a fighter. Now I
Speaker 1: could be fighting and sh you know, and like wrestling,
Speaker 1: right dah, he does illustrations. He's like w W type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to Coalik. But yeah, no, it was. It
Speaker 1: was crazy because you'll like just took over the radio
Speaker 1: for like two hours right with the I think it
Speaker 1: was Matt Lock's Squeak Squeak boogie. They show love but
Speaker 1: was moving. I was moving so wow. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I blocked a lot of blessings, Bro, I
Speaker 1: was in I was in rooms with some powerful people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. At that time? Hey, but hey, honestly, bro,
Speaker 1: the journey has led you to this, and it's as
Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, not the most rewarding gig to
Speaker 1: be a mid mid level successful rapper, because most rappers
Speaker 1: signed shitty record deals and then they end up in
Speaker 1: this all worked out for you, man, because not for
Speaker 1: sure if I would have made it back then, I
Speaker 1: probably would have destroyed myself. I was too real. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I remember with case talking ship
Speaker 1: to him slapping money out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That he's doing dumb ship like I used to be
Speaker 1: so like unhinged, you know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: you were like throwing money in Casey's face. Nah, we
Speaker 1: was all was doing an interview like you slapped your
Speaker 1: favorite DJ, I slap your favorite rapper, like throwing throwing
Speaker 1: stacks ship. I will go to New York to pick
Speaker 1: up money. And then while I was there, like a
Speaker 1: little shot and whoever sh come through all the little
Speaker 1: radio ships and you know what I'm saying, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just I was living the life. But without
Speaker 1: a deal. You know what I'm saying, without a deal,
Speaker 1: without a deal, There it is, man. We'll appreciate you
Speaker 1: pulling up and yes, sir, yes, sir. Fire