1 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, good evening everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. I am sad 2 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: to tell you I am taking my name off of 3 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: the organ donor list. I don't want to be on 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: this list after what I'm learning after reading this federal 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: study that found all kinds of troubling problems with the 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: organ donation system. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: When I say troubling problems. 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Thirty percent apparently had troubling signs about who the donors were, 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: including many cases where the patients who were donating organs 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: were not even dead. 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: This is what Robert F. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Kennedy, Junior, the Health and Human Services Secretary, wrote on 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the platform X I'll read it to you. He says, 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: our finding show that hospitals allow the organ procurement process 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: to begin when patients showed signs. 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: Of life, and this is horrifying. 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Secretary Kennedy said, you better believe it's horrifying. Listen to 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: this doctor spell out some of the problems. 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: When you go to sign up to be an organ donor, 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: you go to the Department of Motor Vehicles and you 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: see the brightly colored signs that say give the gift 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: of life. You're never offered a consent for them. You're 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: never told that when you become a brain dead organ donor, 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: you are not biologically dead, all right. 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: Which means they take your organs. And here's what's become 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: even more frightening. You may not even actually be brain dead, 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: as we've learned from this congressional hearing, where story after 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: story had my eyes popping for these patients. These are 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the findings of the study. Let me show you this graphic. Zero. 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Of the three hundred and five if the one cases 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: that they studied here one hundred and three cases, twenty 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: nine percent had quote concerning issues. Seventy three patients showed 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: neurological signs incompatible with donation, and at least twenty eight 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: patients may not have been deceased when organ procurement began. 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Some of the problems were poor neurologic assessments, lack of 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: team coordination, questionable consent, and misclassified causes of death, especially 37 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: in overdoses. Folks, listen to this congressional testimony. This is 38 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Cat Cameck. She's a congresswoman from Florida. 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, a doctor filed a case report 40 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: about a woman with Down syndrome who was in an 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: operating room being treated as an organ donor. During the 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: harvesting of her organs, staff realized that her aortic and 43 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: renal arteries were pumping and pulsing. In other words, she 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: was not dead. The patient was given powerful drugs fentanyl 45 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: and lurazepam, and then, according to the doctor filing the 46 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: case report, eighteen minutes after she was first pronounced dead, 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: she was pronounced dead a second time. 48 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Can you imagine, I mean, I've heard stories now if 49 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: people were crying as they were being wheeled down into 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: a surgical operating room to take their organs, only that 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: family members step in and say enough is enough. 52 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: So here's how it works. 53 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: You put your name on the list and then guess 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: what these organ donor companies want your organs by hook 55 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: or by krook. Three hours, some families are given notice 56 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: as to hey, your loved one's going in. We've classified 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: them as brain dead. You don't get to make a decision. 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Watch this video. Take it in the hallway of a 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: hospital of a mother who learned that she couldn't stop 60 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: her son from going in to give up organs, and 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: the son, in her opinion, was still alive. By they 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: never thought that they were doing this today. 63 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: Never never for money, for money, for money. 64 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: This is all about money. This is all about money. 65 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: Give him. 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: We're doing up big three walk. It's honor walk, and 67 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: y'all just notify us three hours ago. It's heart wrenching. 68 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: And apparently they do this honor work to pay a 69 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: homage to the person who was allegedly dead before they 70 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: take their organs, harvest them to give to somebody else. 71 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: And again, story after story, we hear many of these 72 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: people were not dead. I thought you were dead. Apparently 73 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: that's a myth when it comes to organ donation. Here's 74 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: another story. 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: After his family consented organ donation, the Hearsser report details 76 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 6: the critical failure to reassess that decision following developing circumstances. Specifically, 77 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: hospital and OPO staff documented improved neurological function at multiple 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 6: between the opio U was contacted. 79 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: So amazing stuff. 80 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: And it is really shocking to me because in the 81 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: quest to save one life, it appears too often than 82 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: not they may be taking another life. And what's sad 83 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: about all of this is is this story emerges, you 84 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: get a guy like me, it is this Hold on 85 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: a second, I'm taking my name off the donor list. 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: People who need organs. 87 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: In a legitimate fashion are now not going to get 88 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: them because I think this whole process has been mismanaged. 89 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: That I believe is what will come of all of this. 90 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I want to bring in with me now. Such a 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: great friend of this program, Chief of Disaster and Emergency 92 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Medicine for the Wellness Company, doctor Kelly Victory, is with us. 93 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 7: Doctor Victory, welcome, Thank you very much for having me 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 7: grant all. 95 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Right, Doc, I've heard so many people doctors say, people 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: don't know. It's a myth when you think you're dead 97 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: when you give your organs? 98 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: Is that right? Is that a myth? 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: So this is very distressing. 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 7: There are two generally accepted ways in which we determine death. 101 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 7: One is death by cardiopulmonary causes, and that is quite simple. 102 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 7: If your heart is no longer beating on its own 103 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 7: and respiration is no longer happening spontaneously, then a person 104 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 7: can be determined to be dead. The other way is 105 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 7: death by neurologic criteria, and that is not quite as 106 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 7: clear cut. Unfortunately, people should go through an extensive neurologic 107 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 7: exam to prove that the entire brain, including the brain 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 7: stem now has permanent loss of function. And the brain 109 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 7: stem is important because that is the part of the 110 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 7: brain that drives respiratory drive. So you need to conduct 111 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 7: a thorough neurologic exam, including proof that the brain stem 112 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 7: is no longer functioning tragically. It appears that these guidelines 113 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 7: have been breached in many, many cases, and this study 114 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 7: is really quite horrifying. I posted on X the other 115 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 7: day exactly what you just intimated, which is that this 116 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 7: is going to have a horrible fallout in that many people, 117 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 7: understandably so will remove their names from the organ donation 118 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 7: list out of fear that someone will prematurely come for 119 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 7: their kidneys. I have been a huge supporter of organ 120 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 7: donation grant, I'm a trama specialist, but we cannot ever 121 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 7: allow someone's life to be ended prematurely in order to 122 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 7: harvest those organs. 123 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: The reality is you're probably just like me. I want 124 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to give my organs if I die, but I don't 125 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: want if there's a chance of me living, and we've 126 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: heard stories of full recovery. Let me play a clip. 127 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: This is doctor Paul Byrne. Let me play this clip 128 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: for you and then get your response, because after COVID. 129 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I now don't trust anybody. I don't trust the medical community. 130 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I think everything's about money. I worry now we're finding 131 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: this out about the organ donor industry. Let me play 132 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: the clip of doctor to Paul Burn. 133 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: Brain death is a lie. So people don't even realize 134 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: it's a lie anymore. But it's been a lie from 135 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: the beginning, continues to be a line. They then invented 136 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 5: brain death mainly to get organs, but then also so 137 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: they don't waste money on treating people who aren't ever 138 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: going to get a job, who are just going to 139 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: live and not die. 140 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Is that true? 141 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I think that there is some truth to that. Clearly, 142 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 7: there are people who meet the criteria of brain death. 143 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: They cannot breathe on their own, they have no cognitive function, 144 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 7: They have no evidence of feeling pain. We go through 145 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 7: some of the things, you know, for example, touching their 146 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 7: eyeball with something. Normally you would get a blink reflex 147 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 7: that's called the corneal reflex. 148 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: That is absent. 149 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 7: They don't show any indication of pain. In other words, 150 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 7: they're heart rate and blood pressure does not increase when 151 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: there is painful stimuli, and on and on. 152 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: So there are. 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 7: People grant who clearly have complete, irreversible, permanent brain loss 154 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 7: and therefore are never going to and we can determine 155 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 7: those people as quote brain dead. But it's a slippery 156 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 7: slope because unless you go through the full course of studies, 157 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 7: of evaluations, and particularly in cases where there's been an 158 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 7: overdose or substance of substance abuse substance issues, you need 159 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 7: to give adequate time to make sure that all of 160 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 7: that has been metabolized and worn off. You need to 161 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 7: make sure that the patient's body is warm. There are 162 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 7: people who have been submerged in water, for example, for 163 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 7: tremendously long periods of time in excess of thirty minutes, 164 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 7: who were declared dead, and then when they warm up, 165 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 7: when the body warms up, they all of a sudden 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 7: develop signs of life again. 167 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: And you start cutting. 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 7: Corners in order to get an organ because you have 169 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 7: a needy patient and you're desperate to get that kidney 170 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 7: or that cornea or that heart, you can make a 171 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 7: very very bad decision, and this has got to be 172 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 7: highly regulated. 173 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Let me play one more clip for you, because I 174 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: think this also highlights I'm not an attorney, but This 175 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: highlights the need for a living will. You could spell 176 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: out all of these scenarios if you want it. You 177 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: can get very detailed in your living will, have a 178 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: paddle that you decide who's going to make these decisions 179 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: for you rather than just leaving up to the doctor. 180 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: And you sign as the lady said on your driver's license, Hey, 181 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: go ahead take them. This is at the congressional hearing. 182 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Lynch, I believe, is a federal regulator who works 183 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: for the federal agency under HHS that oversees the organ 184 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: donation industry. 185 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 2: He gets pressed here watch. 186 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 8: This publicized and open letter characterizing the ongoing effort to 187 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 8: improve patient safety through enhanced oversight as a misinformation conspiracy campaign, 188 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 8: and concluded his time for it to stop. And it 189 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 8: was signed by more than twenty of the you's staff. 190 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 8: Would that letter constit you an attempt to obstruct herse's investigation. 191 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 9: The legal definition of obstruct I don't believe I would 192 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 9: be the. 193 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about a legal definition. 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: I think what he's getting at is regulators. 195 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: The industry doesn't want the FEDS investigating all of this, 196 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: and just like everything else we talk about, doctor Victory, 197 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: they try to cover it up thirty seconds if you 198 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: can well. 199 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, again, much like what we witness with COVID grant, 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: people are willing to turn a blind eye to the 201 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 7: truth and not cut corners, all in the name of money. 202 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 7: There is tragically a lot of money to be made 203 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 7: in the organ procurement world, and I hate to say it, 204 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 7: but I'm sure that some of this is driven by money, 205 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 7: or if someone believes a recipient of an organ is 206 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 7: more worthy than the person who is about to pass away, 207 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 7: or that they could save or help you know, five 208 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: or ten different people with those organs at the expense 209 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 7: of just quote one life. I am a strong supporter 210 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 7: of organ donation, but it has got to be done respectfully, 211 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 7: with the sanctity of life at the top of our 212 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 7: priority list. 213 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: We can never allow. 214 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 7: This to happen, and I agree with Robert Kennedy Junior. 215 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 7: There has got to be tremendous oversight an investigation into 216 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 7: this to make sure that this sort of thing never happens. 217 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: It amazes me that we're getting all this information now, 218 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: thankfully because Robert F. Kennedy Junior is at the helm 219 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: of AHHS. This I'm sure has been going on for 220 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: a very long time, but it is eye opening chaef 221 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: from disaster and emergency medicine for the Wellness Company, Doctor 222 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Kelly Victory, thank you, and a big thanks to the 223 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Wellness Company for the support of this program. We'll talk 224 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: to you soon. Thank you, absolutely all right, Moving on, 225 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: President Trump made a huge, huge announcement today, his golden era, 226 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: the golden age of America must include the advancement of 227 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, and we must dominate globally. So President Trump 228 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: held this announcement. You could see it's clear to me 229 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: that President Trump puts AI right next to energy independence 230 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: and military dominance. I think those are three pillars that 231 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: we have to control and lead the world in if 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: we want America to be successful. 233 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: Here's President Trump. 234 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: As President of the United States. 235 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 10: I'm here today to declare that America is going to win. 236 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: It's going to work hard, We're going to win. 237 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 10: It because we will not allow any foreign nation to 238 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 10: beat us. Our children will not live in a planet 239 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 10: controlled by the algorithms the adversarias advancing I use an 240 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 10: interest contrary to our own, which. 241 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: So the plan that President Trump announced is very in depth. 242 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: There's a loan program, there's grant programs to help entrepreneurs 243 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and investors get moving with these data centers and AI centers. 244 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: There's also a move President Trump is saying, hey, we 245 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: have to open up federal lands for some of these 246 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: data centers to make sure that's the case. Energy independence 247 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: to power these AI centers is so important. And then 248 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: of course the issue of global dominance so nobody else 249 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: gets ahead of us. We must have federal oversight as 250 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: opposed to state oversite. 251 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: The President again, if you. 252 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 11: Are operating under fifty different sets of state laws, the 253 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 11: most restrictive state of all will be the one that rules. 254 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 11: So you could have a state run by a crazy governor, 255 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 11: a governor that hates you, governor that's not smart, or 256 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 11: maybe a governor is very smart but decides that he 257 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 11: doesn't like the industry and he can put you out 258 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 11: of business because you're going to have to go to 259 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 11: that lowest common denominator week. 260 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: So the push now, at least amongst Republicans, is to 261 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: make sure that AI is regulated at a federal level 262 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and keep states out of it. And there's some ideas 263 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: to do this by keeping federal money tied to states 264 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: staying out of the regulation business, and the whole key 265 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: to AI is limiting regulation. So what can ultimately take off. 266 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: One of the states he's talking about, of course, is California. 267 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine a radical governor like Gavin Newsom starting 268 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: to regulate AI in that state would be a disaster. 269 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: And speaking of California, the senator from California, Adam Schiff, 270 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: doesn't even live there. How is he a senator from 271 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: California if he lives in Maryland. How do we know 272 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: he lives in Maryland because he signed documents. 273 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: That says he lived in Maryland. Look at that. This 274 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: is a mortgage. 275 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Document that says Adam shift made his primary residence in Maryland. 276 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are out there accusing him 277 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: of mortgage fraud. I don't think he's engaging a mortgage fraud. 278 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: I think he's engaging in election fraud. 279 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: I think he's engaging in voter fraud. 280 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: Yet even the President wants to go down the mortgage 281 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: fraud route. 282 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 11: But it's mortgage loan fraud. 283 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. 284 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 11: He defrauded banks and insurance companies in the federal government. 285 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 11: But it's very simple. It's mortgage loan fraud. And you're right, 286 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 11: that's a lot of people to live in a one 287 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 11: bedroom apartment, right, but he put it down. But he 288 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 11: has a lot of other things far worse than that. 289 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 11: So no, Adam Shift. They have him one hundred percent 290 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 11: on mortgage fraud. 291 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: Mister President's rare. 292 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I disagree with you, but let's take a look at 293 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: a little different look in this. I'd be happy to 294 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: represent Adam Shift and prove to you that he lives 295 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: in Maryland. Why, he's got a mansion in Maryland. He 296 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: has his family that lives there, four kids. He's got 297 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: a little tiny studio apartment seven hundred square feet in Glendale, California. 298 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: You tell me where he lives. He's never in California, 299 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: and yet he voted there. So instead of charging with 300 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: mortgage fraud, let him get the benefit of lower interest 301 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: or lower taxes or whatever it might be in Maryland. 302 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: But let's charge him with voter fraud. Let's strip him 303 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: of his seat. 304 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: I think the United States Senate ought to move to 305 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: impeach Adam Shift. They ought to do it immediately because 306 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: he's ineligible to be a senator from California. The constitution 307 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: is clear, you have to live there. Adam Schiff has 308 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: said he doesn't live there. That's on his mortgage documents, 309 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: sworn to a officer of the court. So it seems 310 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: to me like he should be removed from his seat. 311 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Well on now to discuss this by co host of 312 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: The Morning Answer on AM eight seventy out in Los Angeles, 313 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Jennifer Horn is with us. Jennifer, welcome back, Thank you. 314 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 12: I'm so excited that we're talking about Adam shift tonight 315 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 12: because you know what I'd like to do a good 316 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 12: deed for the day grant. 317 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 13: I would like to give him to Maryland. 318 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 12: I think that would be I think that would be 319 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 12: a gift that they can keep. 320 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 13: We don't need Adamshiff in California anymore. 321 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: No, Look, if he wants to run for Senate in Maryland, 322 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: that's probably the state he should he should live in. So, Jennifer, 323 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: if you ken his studio apartment that he has, the 324 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: seven on square feet, is not far from the radio 325 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: station where we broadcast from in Glendale, California. Give me 326 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: a little background of Adam Schiff in California. Do you 327 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: think he's lived in California for a long time or 328 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: in Maryland for a long time? Oh? 329 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 12: I know for a fact that he has not lived 330 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 12: in californiaet for a long time. And I can tell 331 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 12: you this because I have been a constituent of Adam 332 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 12: Shifts for a very long time. I've lived in his 333 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 12: district my entire life, and he has represented me not 334 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 12: well in. 335 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 13: The House of Representatives. 336 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 12: And here's the thing, Grant, I think he lived there 337 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 12: for a little while, but boy, since. 338 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 13: Two thousand and nine, twenty ten, I. 339 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 12: Don't think he's been anywhere near or southern California. He had, 340 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 12: as you mentioned, this little tiny place in Burbank, five 341 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 12: hundred six hundred square feet, right up the street from 342 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 12: his office, and he'd come back literally once a year. 343 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 12: We would see him in southern California. He would ride 344 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 12: in like a local Fourth of July parade. And I 345 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 12: know it was there because one of the headlines. 346 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 13: One year was that he got hit in the head 347 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 13: with a water balloon. 348 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: People throw water balloons at him. And he still wins 349 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the Senate race. Amazingly. I do think the Democrats set 350 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: it up for him for whatever reason. 351 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: He was in line. 352 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Let me play this clip of reporters going after him 353 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: about this mortgage fraud issue. Take a look at this 354 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: and I'll ask you if this is par for the 355 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: course for Adam shift center. 356 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 14: Do you have a response to Trump saying you're guilty 357 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 14: of mortgage frau? Do you have any responses? 358 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 11: Senator Centative? 359 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 14: Why did you decide to make your primary residence in 360 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 14: Maryland for ten years for a decade, not California? Any 361 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 14: comment on Trump accusing you mortgage frauds? 362 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: Are you're on? 363 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 14: Any response? 364 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 5: How I say you? 365 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: Is that par for the course for him? 366 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Jen, I'll tell you what. 367 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 12: When was the last time you see you've seen Adam 368 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 12: Schiff walk away from a microphone. The guy loves microphones, 369 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 12: He loves podiums, He loves to talk. 370 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 13: This is how you know you have him when he 371 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 13: is just shutting up and walking along. 372 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 373 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 12: I think there's either mortgage fraud here, or as you suggested, 374 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 12: there's election and voter fraud. Pick your poison at him, 375 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 12: because both of these things it may not be able 376 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 12: to be true at the same time, but they can 377 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 12: certainly be true all by themselves. He's been voting in California, 378 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 12: he's been running in California for decades, and he continues 379 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 12: to get the value of living outside of the state 380 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 12: he claims to represents for the lower taxes. 381 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 13: It's ridiculous. 382 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you've made that point, because which way 383 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: you want to go. If it's mortgage fraud, it's against 384 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: the law. He could be charged and he should be. 385 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: If it's election fraud, then he should be charged and 386 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: he should be and he. 387 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: Should lose his seat. 388 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: But it can't be both, and it's got to be 389 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: one or the other. 390 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: It can't be neither. 391 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: So in the end we'll see what they do with 392 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Adam shiff I'd love to see them strip him of 393 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: his seat though, And boy, wouldn't that send California Democrats 394 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: into a frenzy. 395 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 13: I would love it. 396 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 12: That would be a Christmas gift come in July, isn't 397 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 12: Isn't that what they say Christmas in July? 398 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 13: We can hope for it. 399 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: Isn't that the truth? 400 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Jennifer Orn, I will see you brighton early in the morning, 401 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific time out there on AM eight seventy. 402 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: Check us out on Rumble as well, titled The Morning 403 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Answer Jennifer Horn, Thank you, thank you. 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It's related to 422 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: the Obama collusion that we saw inside the Obama White 423 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: House and then inside the Biden White House and everything 424 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: that happened during Trump's first presidency. Tolsy Gabbert said this 425 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: about Obama. 426 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: Do you believe that any of this new information implicates 427 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 7: former President Obama in criminal behavior. 428 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 15: We have referred and will continue to refer all of 429 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 15: these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI 430 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 15: to investigate the criminal implications of this. For even the 431 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 15: evidence of bob correct, the evidence that we have found 432 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 15: and that we have released directly point to President Obama 433 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 15: leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. 434 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: A right. So Tolsy Gabbert has done a fabulous job 435 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: uncovering all of this. Think about how well it was 436 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: hidden during the first Trump White House. Now she uncovers 437 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: it in many respects. As she uncovers stuff, sending it 438 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to the DOJ, she can wash your hands clean of this. 439 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: And now it's Pam Bondi's problem. So what is Pam 440 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: Bondi going to do with all of this? Now? Tulci 441 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Gabbard does a great job of making the case against Obama, Clapper, 442 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: Comy Brennan, all of these clowns. Here she is at 443 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: that White House press briefing today. 444 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 15: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and 445 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 15: his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence 446 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 15: community assessment that they knew was false. 447 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: They knew it would. 448 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 15: Promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty 449 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 15: sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it to 450 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 15: the American people as though it were true. 451 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 452 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 15: The report that we released Today's shows in great detail 453 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 15: how they carried this out. 454 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: What is amazing to me is the mainstream media does 455 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: not want to talk about this story. When you think 456 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: about what happened, folks, to put it in the most 457 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: simple fashion, You've got the entire Democrat Party, You've got 458 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: the entire corporate media apparatus screaming Trump Russia collusion, Trump 459 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. 460 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: Meanwhile the intelligence. 461 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: Communities say, uh ah, that didn't happen, no evidence of that. 462 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and his crew of purveyors of misinformation decide 463 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: to come up with an alternative assessment that ends up 464 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: becoming the catalyst for the impeachment of President Trump, all 465 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: the while they knew it wasn't true, and the media 466 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: covers it up, and. 467 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 16: Reporters at legacy outlets, some of which are sitting in 468 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 16: this room today, like The New York Times in the 469 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 16: Washington Post, were ridiculously awarded Politzer Prizes for their perpetuation 470 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 16: of this hoax. It's well past time for those awards 471 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 16: to be stripped from the journalists who receive them. It 472 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 16: is not journalism to propagate political disinformation in service of 473 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 16: the Democrat Party and those in the intelligence community who 474 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 16: hand over out of context and fake intelligence to push 475 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 16: a false political narrative. 476 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Pulitzer, that organization would have egg on 477 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: its face, and in fact does because I had been 478 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: telling you this was a hoax from the very start, 479 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: and I wasn't alone. Most of my conservative counterparts were 480 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: also screaming and yelling, do not believe the mainstream media. 481 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: So you talk about a media cover up. Guess what 482 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: it continued today. I want you to check this out. 483 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: Major cable network CNN cuts away from Tulsi Gabbard as 484 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: she's getting to the heart of the case against Obama and. 485 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 15: Clown Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact 486 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 15: the outcome of the US election. 487 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 9: On December fifth, We've been listening there to the Director 488 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 9: of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard continuing on what has now 489 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 9: been a multi day effort not only with public statements 490 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 9: like this, but release of documents to attempt to back 491 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 9: up the quite extreme allegation that President Obama. 492 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Books, they cut away from her explaining it. Now, wonder 493 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: you have uninformed Democrats that they're uninformed because they're watching CNN, 494 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: MSNBC or not watching anything that don't believe all this. 495 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Want to bring in with me now, founder of the 496 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: international consulting firm SMI Group. He's an attorney who just 497 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: wrote about this for Real, Real Clear Politics. 498 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: Kennan Spivak is with us. 499 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Kennan, it's great to have you back on the program. Great, 500 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having me absolutely. 501 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: So what do you think needs to come of all 502 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: of this? 503 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 17: Well, I think we have to look at this in 504 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 17: three parts. What was done and was it bad? Was 505 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 17: it criminal behavior? And is it prosecutable criminal bit behavior? 506 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 17: I think Tulci Gabbert has established And by the way, 507 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 17: I want to give a lot of credit to John Radcliffe, 508 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 17: who's the director of the CIA, who a few months 509 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 17: ago ordered a review of this intelligence community assessment that 510 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 17: was trumped up by Obama. Between the work they've both done, 511 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 17: we are really quite positive that the intelligence community throughout 512 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 17: twenty sixteen was saying that there was a Russian effort 513 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 17: to influence the campaign, but they were not saying let 514 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 17: me stress this. They were not saying that it was 515 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 17: to elect Donald Trump. There were some reports that the 516 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 17: Russians were favoring Trump, there were many reports that the 517 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 17: Russians were favoring Hillary Clinton. The only thing the intelligence 518 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 17: community agreed on is that the Russians were trying to 519 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 17: destabilize the election. And so when some Democrats now point 520 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 17: to the Rubio Committee in the Senate that analyzed this, 521 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 17: all they found was that the Russians were trying to 522 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 17: destabilize the election, not to elect Donald Trump as president. 523 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 17: So the first thing we know is that there was 524 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 17: no agreement in the intelligence community. And then on December ninth, 525 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 17: twenty sixteen, Obama assembled the National Security Council and instructed 526 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 17: them within one week to issue an intelligence community assessment 527 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 17: that falsely concluded that the purpose of the Russian influence 528 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 17: was to elect Donald Trump president, and that was done 529 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 17: to destabilize the Trump administration. And that was done chiefly 530 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 17: by John Brennan, who was then the director of the CIA, 531 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 17: by James Clapper, who was then the National Intelligence Director, 532 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 17: and with the very active assistance of James Comy and 533 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 17: Andrew McCay from the FBI. Those are facts we know 534 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 17: that happened. 535 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: Me throw a name out there that is not talked 536 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: about very often, but Gina Haspell is a longtime CIA operative. 537 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: In fact, she was head of the. 538 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: CIA under President Trump the first time around. For a 539 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: couple of years, she was the CIA Bureau chief in London. 540 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: She was the top CIA analyst in London, the top 541 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: dog in London, where, of course the dossier came from 542 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton paid for. This Steele dossier comes out 543 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: of England and is used in everything you said to 544 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: set up President Trump. She then gets appointed as the 545 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: CIA director. Is she responsible for covering up munch of this? 546 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: It's almost as if they most likely had one of 547 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: their own insiders running the CIA while President Trump was 548 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: in office. She had. 549 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 17: I don't know if i'd say she's responsible for the 550 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 17: cover up. That's John Brennan, Comy and McCabe, but she 551 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 17: certainly had a role in it. It's very important to 552 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 17: understand that when this assessment was being written in just 553 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 17: one week Christmas week, by the way, and written in 554 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 17: large part by Brennan himself. While it was being written, 555 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 17: CIA analysts opposed reliance on the Steele dossier. They said 556 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 17: that it did not meet the minimum requirements to be 557 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 17: relied on it for tradecraft. Brennan overruled them, and the 558 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 17: FBI under Comye McCabe, refused to participate in this intelligence 559 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 17: community assessment unless the Stele dossier was quoted. Now, the 560 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 17: Stele dossier is a fraud. We all know it's a fraud. 561 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 17: It was paid for by Hillary Clinton through her law 562 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 17: firm Perkins Coe, with this sort of British spy. We 563 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 17: know the FBI knew it was a fraud. We know 564 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 17: the CIA knew it was a fraud, and therefore, yes, 565 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 17: we know that. But Gina Haspell knew it was a 566 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 17: fraud even as she became CIA director and said nothing 567 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 17: about it. 568 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's the biggest problem is that there were so 569 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: many people I believe they're guilty and just their their 570 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: silence in all of this. 571 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: So in the end, real quick, if you can for me, what. 572 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: Is the prospect that we get accountability in this, that 573 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: someone is charged. I doubt Barack Obama is going to 574 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: get charged with anything, or get convicted or end up 575 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: behind bars. I wish it was true, but I doubt 576 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. As for the others, who knows. 577 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of faith that it will happen. 578 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: Where do you stand if you can real quick? 579 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 17: All right, Obama's probably not guilty of anything to begin with. 580 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 17: But even if he is, he has immunity, the same 581 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 17: immunity that Donald Trump has. And the Statute of Limitations 582 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 17: has expired. There's no possibility of Barack Obama being criminally 583 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 17: convicted of anything. 584 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: Most of the. 585 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 17: Other people we've talked about, they're wrongdoing occurred more than 586 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 17: five years ago. They're saved by the Statute of Limitations. 587 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 17: One major exception, John Brennan. He testified in Congress in 588 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 17: twenty twenty three. In my opinion, he lied, In my opinion, 589 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 17: he committed perjury. 590 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: We can go after him for perjury. 591 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 17: Some of the other people involved same thing, more recent testimony, 592 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 17: we may be able to go after them. The only 593 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 17: possibility for going after the original wrongdoing and the entire 594 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 17: group is something I don't see happening. 595 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: If the Department of Justice. 596 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 17: Can establish a continuing conspiracy that included the false testimony 597 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 17: in Congress in twenty twenty three, they may be able 598 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 17: to extend forward the Statute of limitations. 599 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: I think what I just described is not going to happen. Yeah, 600 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: treason is aiding and a betting the enemy. Basically, I 601 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: believe what they did is treason is But that's going 602 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: to be a tall order as well. Calling this a 603 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: continuing conspiracy. I believe that's one hundred percent trio. Getting 604 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: a court to buy into that and knowing the courts 605 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: of these days may be a tall order. But we 606 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: shall see Kenna Smith back. It's great to talk to you. 607 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. I urge people to read your piece of 608 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: real clear politics and we'll see you soon. I hope great. 609 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, absolutely all right. The WNBA, the players there 610 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: are ask you for more money, and Trump wants the 611 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Redskins to make a comeback. We're going to talk a 612 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: little sports coming up next. Welcome back everyone, President Trump says. 613 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders, the football team in Washington, DC, they 614 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: want a new stadium. President Trump says, hey, we're gonna 615 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: hold some money back unless you change a name back 616 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: to the Redskins. 617 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: Here's Caroline Levitt. 618 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 16: The President was serious and as part of the art 619 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 16: of the deal, part of his negotiating skills. As you know, 620 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 16: sports is one of the many passions of this president, 621 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 16: and he wants to see the name of that team change. 622 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 13: Why does this see that look of I think you've. 623 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 16: Seen the president gets involved in a lot of things 624 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 16: that most presidents have not. He's a non traditional president. 625 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 16: He likes to see results on behalf of the American people. 626 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: And all right, so what do Native Americans think about this? 627 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: NFL player Jason Buck said this. 628 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 18: You know, we're sick and tired of the intellectual elite 629 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 18: at the top of the university towers. You know, like 630 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 18: they're all in their own little hogwarts telling us what 631 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 18: to do with our names. Seventy to ninety percent of 632 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 18: Native American Indians wherever you go, love the name Redskins. 633 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 18: They're proud of their heritage and we don't want to 634 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 18: stolen from us. 635 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: Well, my very good friend was a cheerleader for the 636 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. She's not a Native American, but she might 637 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: be a squad to some lucky guy. 638 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: I'll bringing Jillian Anderson with me. Jillian, welcome to the program. 639 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 13: Thanks for having me back. Grant what an entrance. 640 00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: I like it. 641 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: It is great to see you. You were a cheerleader 642 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: for the Washington Redskins. Your thoughts on President Trump pushing 643 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: back saying, hey, let's go back to the old time name. 644 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 19: Well, not only did I work for the Redskins, I'm 645 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 19: also from northeastern Ohio, so his comment to the Cleveland 646 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 19: Indians also hit home for me. In the same year, 647 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 19: I lost two teams. 648 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 13: Names that I really loved. But I can speak to the. 649 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 19: Community of the Washington Redskins as a cheerleader ambassador. We 650 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 19: were constantly with the community, constantly meeting, you know, generations 651 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 19: of fans who would share stories about how they went 652 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 19: to their first Redskins game with their dad, now they're 653 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 19: bringing their young son for the first time. And it 654 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 19: was just such a great part of the community, a 655 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 19: great part of history for the city and for the fans, 656 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 19: and they just dismantled it without even understanding. The history 657 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 19: of the name was a tribute to our Native American 658 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 19: coach and the logo was designed by a Native American 659 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 19: of a Native American using their self proclaimed name, the Redskins, 660 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 19: and we just washed all that history away and all 661 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 19: that pride that came with it. 662 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Well, as a cowboy fan, I used to love the 663 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: games between the Redskins and seeing the two mascots go 664 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: at it on the sidelines, and I always thought it 665 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: was great. Let me change subjects now to basketball. The 666 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: WNBA they had their All Star game. It didn't go 667 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: so well for many of It started out with this though. 668 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: They were wearing T shirts that said pay us what 669 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: we deserve. 670 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: And so I want to say this. 671 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: Jillian, I know you're a conservative like I am. 672 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: They make no money. 673 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: The NBA makes one point five billion dollars a year 674 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: and the NBA WNBA makes two hundred million. These are 675 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: gross numbers. 676 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: How are you going to. 677 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: Pay these these female athletes what NBA players are making 678 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to jersey sales and TV and all 679 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: this other stuff, you can't no. 680 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 13: I mean you're right, not only my conservative grant. 681 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 19: I'm a capitalist and it's basic match. 682 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 13: You know, you have a product. 683 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 19: If people want to buy it, then you're kind of 684 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 19: out of luck, right, And I will say, these girls, 685 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 19: they don't make a whole lot of money, especially in 686 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 19: some of the. 687 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 13: Cities they live in. 688 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 19: But again it goes back to capitalism. But there's no demand, 689 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 19: then you're not going to make money. And it all 690 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 19: comes down to the TV deal, and their TV deal 691 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 19: is not strong enough to warrant what these girls are 692 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 19: asking for. But you know what, if I was one 693 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 19: of those players, I would capitalize on their hot streak 694 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 19: right now. 695 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: No one's talked. 696 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 19: About the NWNBA before like they are now, And they 697 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 19: know that this Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark drama that 698 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 19: is bringing them so much attention in the last year 699 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 19: is going to die out eventually, and so are their popularity. 700 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: So they're trying to get paid later. 701 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 13: And that's really smart. 702 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me show you why the TV ratings aren't big. One. 703 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: We can play a blooper reel from the All Star Game. 704 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: It was actually pretty pathetic. I mean over and over again. 705 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: They're missing shots left and right, and missing layups and 706 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: all of these things. And then at the club later. 707 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: This may tell the bigger story here. Courtney Williams and 708 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: Natsia Hydeman, I don't even know who these people are 709 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 1: are trying to get into a club. 710 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: Watch what happens. 711 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, we're gon a w. 712 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 15: The R Doll game. 713 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 9: You like, will I need to be funny though. 714 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: We should not be waiting in no longer. 715 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 16: Oh god, yeah, let me get in. 716 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 4: We're getting there right now. 717 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 19: Come on, ye women, I don't know I'm good ti go. 718 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Jillian, they weren't going to get in. 719 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: The club because the bouncers didn't. 720 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: Know who the hell they are. 721 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: I promise you that doesn't happen to Luka doncik. 722 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 19: I mean, I'm not trying to sound a little funny here, 723 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 19: but what I I was working around athletes, all the 724 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 19: athletes my team, other teams. 725 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 13: We all got pooled into clubs. 726 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 19: We got called ahead of times to make sure we 727 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 19: were at certain clubs. So this is a little bit humorous, 728 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 19: but honestly, I just would have walked away, would have 729 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 19: put my head down and walked away. 730 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 13: That is so embarrassing. 731 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 19: I'm even though they had finals the other day or 732 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 19: a championship, but I also couldn't make a single team 733 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 19: in the WNBA, So I'm just mortified on their behalf. 734 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: I bet you don't have problems getting into the clubs, Jillian, 735 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: But I bet you're not wearing a white beater in 736 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: pink hair either. 737 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 13: That's true, that's true. 738 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they're doing what they can to 739 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: stand out because no one knows. 740 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 13: Who they are. 741 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: I guess. Gillian Anderson, thank you always, good to see. 742 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 13: You, Good to see you too grant. 743 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: All right, all right, folks, senior citizens, don't be duped 744 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: by Democrats and their lies about Trump cutting your healthcare. 745 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: The lies still continue even after this big beautiful bill 746 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: got passed. We'll talk about that. 747 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 20: Next bill is trickle down cruelty and people will die 748 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 20: because of it. 749 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: Folks. 750 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: The lies keep coming from Democrats. Now that was before 751 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: the one big beautiful bill pass Now we know it's 752 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: going to be so great for seniors. 753 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: In fact, it's going to be great for everyone. 754 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: Yet this is what the Democrats keep at Rashieta to 755 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: leave looked out. 756 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: Everybody don't believe her. 757 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: For the children and families and people with disabilities who 758 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: relign me a heat in stamp, it's the difference between 759 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,959 Speaker 4: life and death. 760 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 13: These cuts need real harm for. 761 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 16: Our families already growing with rising grocery prices and access 762 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 16: to healthcare, and it could lead to over fifty thousand 763 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 16: people dying every single year. 764 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: Where do they come up with these numbers? Fifty thousand 765 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: people dying each year? They just make them up. And 766 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: by the way, the only people that get effect did 767 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: negatively by this bill when it comes to medicaid are 768 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: the people that are able to work. The people that 769 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: should be ineligible or the people that are on multiple 770 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: programs that should only be on one program. That's who 771 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: get affected and that's who should be affected. I want 772 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: to bring in now, editor in chief for AMAC news Line, 773 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Shane Harris's whether Shane, Welcome to the program. Thanks for 774 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: having me, all right, AMAC, the Association for Mature American Citizens. 775 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine Mature American Citizens were probably concerned. Are 776 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats telling us the truth? 777 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: Who's right, who's wrong? 778 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,959 Speaker 1: What are you telling them? Yeah? 779 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 21: Well, I think you hit on a major problem, which 780 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 21: is that with this bill, what we've seen from Democrats 781 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 21: is nothing but lies and fear mongering. 782 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the. 783 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 21: Democrats kind of got out ahead of the Republicans a 784 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 21: little bit on this. 785 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: Right. 786 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 21: There was a report that came out a few days 787 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 21: after the big beautiful bill passed that Democrats had more 788 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 21: than Republicans and spending for messaging on the bill. And 789 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 21: so that's why I was actually glad to see the 790 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 21: House recess the other day and the members are going 791 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 21: to be going back to their districts to tell their 792 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 21: members the truth about this bill, because I really think Republicans' 793 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 21: job on the one Big Beautiful Bill. It's actually only 794 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 21: just beginning. Because this bill is one way or another, 795 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 21: it's going to have a major impact on the midterms 796 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 21: next year. And for the Republican side, they need to 797 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 21: make sure that people understand the truth, because, like you said, 798 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 21: it's pretty discussing what the Democrats are doing. They're telling 799 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,479 Speaker 21: people they're literally going to die because of this bill, 800 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 21: which of course is the furthest thing from the truth. 801 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: All Right, So you could believe Rare shoota to leave, 802 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: or you can believe people like me and Shane, or 803 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: you can believe a guy like President Trump. This is 804 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: what he said about the One Big Beautiful Bill last night. 805 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 11: Zin on July third, you passed the One Big Beautiful Bill, 806 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 11: and that's going to go down. I think is one 807 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 11: of the most monumental achievements ever in Congressional history. 808 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: In one historic. 809 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 11: Package, we delivered the largest tax cut in American history, 810 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 11: the largest spending cut in American history, and the largest 811 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 11: border security investment in the American history. And we had 812 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 11: no tax on tipstick of it, no tax on Social Security, 813 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 11: we have no tax on overtime. It's just been There's 814 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 11: never been anything like it. 815 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: Greatness and I would imagine Shane, that the Association of 816 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: Mature American Citizens was instrumental in helping push messaging for this. 817 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: I know Democrats spent more than we did, but you 818 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: were instrumental in this. The news line outlet is big, 819 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: and then the members themselves instrumental in making sure that 820 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: our lawmakers know where we feel. 821 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: Correct. 822 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 823 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 21: Absolutely, when this built, both when it was going through 824 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 21: the legislative process and when it got to President Trump's desk, 825 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 21: we had tens of thousands of members speaking out in 826 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 21: a matter of hours. 827 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: I've never seen. 828 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 21: Anything like it in my in my time at AMAC. 829 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 21: By the between when we sent out a call to 830 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 21: action and when we had members, thousands of members pouring 831 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 21: in their messages of support, it was totally incredible. And 832 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 21: it was clear, you know, literally hours after we sent 833 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 21: out our call to action that the AMAC membership was 834 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 21: totally behind this bill. They didn't buy into the Democrat 835 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 21: lives and fear mongering, and they were very happy to 836 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 21: see it past. 837 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let me tell people how they can 838 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: get with AMAC and help all of you out. 839 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: You guys do such great work there. 840 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: Shane Harris, thanks for coming on tonight, right now, folks, 841 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: you can get a five year AMAC membership for only 842 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: thirty five dollars. Okay, that's five years for thirty five bucks. 843 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: How can they even be right? The magazine alone has 844 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: worth that every month in my opinion, AMAC dot us 845 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: Forward slash grant. You get AMAC magazine, access to real 846 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: money savings discounts and become part of a movement. 847 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: About taking back this country. 848 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: That's AMAC dot us Forward slash grant and a quick 849 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: programming note. You know people on Instagram DM me all 850 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: the time. See this guy right here. His name's Keith Doswell. 851 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: He is a liberal and a wild liberal. But do 852 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: you know he watches every night and he dared me 853 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: to give him a shout out? So not only am 854 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: I giving him a shout out, I'm giving him a 855 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: big thank you for his service. 856 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: To this country. 857 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: I think this is an old picture, by the way, 858 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: doesn't take away from my thank you and the dare 859 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: from a liberal to give a liberal a shout out 860 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: on Stinchfield, He's learning something every night on this program. 861 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: That's why they secretly watch, folks. All right up next, 862 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber actor compares Kamala to Abraham. 863 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: Lincoln that's next. 864 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, it is such a shame because there's a 865 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: lot of these actors that I really like in the movies, 866 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: but then their politics are so out of whack it 867 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: makes me not even want to support them at all. 868 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Daniels is one of them. That movie Dumb and 869 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: Dumber was funny. I don't care what anybody says. It 870 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: was a funny movie. Listen what he says about Kamala Harris. 871 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 22: I still think about Kamala and how I think she 872 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 22: would have been a good choice. I don't care what 873 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 22: they say, because she would have done what Lincoln did. 874 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 22: Liz Cheney would have been Secretary of State. Yeah, Tima rivals. 875 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 22: Doris Kerns a good one, wrote the book about it. 876 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 22: Unless what Lincoln did surrounded himself with the people who 877 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 22: would disagree with him. 878 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber the movie I had no idea was 879 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: a documentary. He played himself. Apparently what she Oh my lord. 880 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us. 881 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: Stinchfield's Army roles Thanks to all of you. A big 882 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: thanks to Dodie for the B two