Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamra Judge. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Talking Traders with Tamra Judge
Speaker 1: and Janelle.
Speaker 2: I'm back, You're back.
Speaker 1: You're back. We have one episode left. It's getting crazy,
Speaker 1: getting crazy.
Speaker 2: It is getting so bananas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so to speak bananas. Now, we just filmed the
Speaker 1: reunion a couple of days ago. We got to talk
Speaker 1: about that. What did you think about the reunion seating chart? So?
Speaker 2: I found it very interesting. I of course wanted to
Speaker 2: be in the coach with you. I love that I
Speaker 2: was close to Andy that they put me in the center. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't mind being by Larsa because we actually got
Speaker 2: to hash things out and really talk.
Speaker 1: You did, Now, you didn't really do this on at
Speaker 1: the reunion. There wasn't fighting. There wasn't really any fighting
Speaker 1: going on there. N although there was one particular person.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was very bitter.
Speaker 2: Bitter party of won bitter. Yeah, she was something else.
Speaker 2: I definitely saw the real her in that moment. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: We had to keep saying over and over, it's a game.
Speaker 1: It's a game, Like girl, sit down.
Speaker 2: Like what did you think you were signing up for.
Speaker 1: I know, so I joked with Andy because I was
Speaker 1: on the couch. So you guys, there was one, two
Speaker 1: through four, five, six people on one side of him
Speaker 1: on the couch, six people on the other side, and
Speaker 1: then there was people on barstools behind because there was
Speaker 1: what twenty people there, twenty one people there and and
Speaker 1: Max did not make it because he's shooting a show
Speaker 1: right now. But I was on on my side of
Speaker 1: the couch was Phedra, c t, Trishall, Sandra, and then
Speaker 1: myself for the first time ever, I got the last seat.
Speaker 2: Is it and that's not good? Or is it? What now?
Speaker 1: I mean for this situation, absolutely good because I was
Speaker 1: only there for four episodes, so I totally expected it.
Speaker 1: I expected to be like sitting in the bathroom or something.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm like, Andy came into my room before
Speaker 1: my hotel room before we started, and I go, why
Speaker 1: am I here? Well, it's going to be fun.
Speaker 2: You made an impact though, you were funny. You brought
Speaker 2: a lot of the comedy to the you know, the
Speaker 2: entire season, which a lot of people are saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: after certain people leave, maybe it's not as exciting or funny,
Speaker 2: which I think is the case with a lot of
Speaker 2: the cast leaving so early.
Speaker 1: Now behind me was Peter and Ekin Sue there is
Speaker 1: some speculation and talk we're going to get into that
Speaker 1: that they are dating, and what a beautiful couple they make, Yes, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Then Bergie, then John. Then I was happy to see Deontays.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if he's going to show up, very positive, sweet,
Speaker 1: And then we had the chewer behind me, Kevin. I'm
Speaker 1: just thanking god there was no food on set. No
Speaker 1: food he.
Speaker 2: Would have shouted down there, yeah zoo Lander to give
Speaker 2: his model looks.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I'm on Andy's right side, on the
Speaker 1: couch's poverty. And then there was Dan, which, oh poor Dan.
Speaker 1: And then there was Kate uh MJ and Charret behind
Speaker 1: was you yep, Larsa Marcus Peppermint, and then Bananas. Banana's
Speaker 1: had a lot to say.
Speaker 2: But when doesn't he get mostly just about Dan though,
Speaker 2: the only thing he talked about was Dan.
Speaker 1: I was starting to feel really bad for Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think Dan expected it though, But.
Speaker 1: You know, Andy started off like, this is not like
Speaker 1: a housewife re union, This is just going over the
Speaker 1: season there was a little bit of housewife shit that
Speaker 1: went down. Somebody got called a piece of shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who. Somebody would not let
Speaker 1: it go. It was there was definitely some drama going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really surprised, I really was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Traders reunion was this past Friday. Did
Speaker 1: it go as you expected it to go. Was there
Speaker 1: anybody that you talked to, like maybe before we started
Speaker 1: filming or after we started filming, that that maybe you
Speaker 1: patch things up? I mean, you and Larsa were not
Speaker 1: in a good place.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only person that I had beef with was
Speaker 2: Larsa because she said what she said. But from talking
Speaker 2: with her, I understand where, like, it just all comes
Speaker 2: down to her being hurt. She was upset with me
Speaker 2: that she was banished. That's where all that stems from. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So she said what she said because she's hurt, and
Speaker 2: I get that. That's so feelians are valid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. So after the reunion I had
Speaker 1: to go home because I have a busy schedule just filming,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't stay out late.
Speaker 2: You were sick, Yeah, I still sick. If you can't
Speaker 2: tell with my bo.
Speaker 1: You were sick. You had actually had a fever at
Speaker 1: the reunion, so you weren't filming the bus. Did you
Speaker 1: end up going to Peter's house.
Speaker 2: Parents house feeling so sick? Like? What terrible timing? Like
Speaker 2: I came down with the worst cold that I've ever
Speaker 2: had in my life, and I just walked into the
Speaker 2: room and we started filming and I was just on
Speaker 2: suit of fed and so many things.
Speaker 1: So do you being sick like that? Do you even
Speaker 1: have a favorite memory from this weekend being in la
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get through it and go to bed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the nut I.
Speaker 1: Was so the night we got there, I had Michelle
Speaker 1: with me, who does my hair, and we went and
Speaker 1: Cet was at the No, no, I'm sorry, Bananas was
Speaker 1: at the bar. Tochelle was there, Dan was there with
Speaker 1: his wife, Sandra was there, Peter was there. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people there just hanging out the bar. And
Speaker 1: then ct comes walking in all just.
Speaker 2: With his pot. Do you bring his posse with?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: He was all by.
Speaker 1: Himself, just kind of shoveled and you know, looking around,
Speaker 1: and he's like, where's the food. I went to go
Speaker 1: look for the food. And then whenever I saw him
Speaker 1: again and Banana's like, that's who he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now him and Bananas are taking off to go film
Speaker 1: change YEP.
Speaker 2: Challenge season forty, Season forty, I know, crazy right, Holy,
Speaker 2: I hope one of them razing. I hope. I hope
Speaker 2: the best for them always. Yeah, they're leaving together to
Speaker 2: go kind of do their their new season.
Speaker 1: So now Trischelle filmed the Challenge as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she doesn't really do it anymore. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think she was offered to do this new season,
Speaker 2: and like what they offered her, She's like, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: The challenge was to pay that wall, so huh.
Speaker 1: But she she did it before and that's how she
Speaker 1: knew CT.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how she met them. So she's yeah,
Speaker 2: she's met them on different challenges like the All Stars
Speaker 2: for sure. They were all on that season, which is
Speaker 2: regarded as one of the best Challenge seasons, is the
Speaker 2: All Stars one.
Speaker 1: So she was on three seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Challenge yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there are some rumors going around that there's
Speaker 1: some relationships that have formed on the show. Do you
Speaker 1: believe it's true. I thought it was really telling that
Speaker 1: they were sitting next to each other.
Speaker 2: I mean I've known about it since the beginning because
Speaker 2: I consume not Yeah, like she.
Speaker 1: Told me, well, are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she liked him always. She was like, I think
Speaker 2: he's really sweet and like whatever. And they you didn't
Speaker 2: know that in the castle they were I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: That's why he went crazy and he was out to
Speaker 2: like get murder and became the most faithful of the
Speaker 2: faithful because she got poisoned. Oh, he wanted to take
Speaker 2: the traders out. That's why he was so upset. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Of course, I was so doped up on so much medication.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Now a Consue had a boyfriend while she was filming.
Speaker 2: It was super rocky.
Speaker 1: It was really rocky. She had told us some stuff
Speaker 1: about him, and I was like, you you deserve better.
Speaker 1: You deserve better. And then they recently broke up. I
Speaker 1: wonder why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when we went to prestay in New
Speaker 2: York last month, they were like I was with them
Speaker 2: the whole night, Like, I mean, I'm hanging out at
Speaker 2: Peter's house with Etkin, Sue and Bergie. So yeah, there's
Speaker 2: oh wow.
Speaker 1: I did see him rub her leg because she was cold.
Speaker 1: He was rubbing her leg. She looked beautiful. But I'm
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, that's not something just some yes mate's
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 2: You're really good friend does to you is rub your leg?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So it was I think they make adorable couple.
Speaker 2: They do. They're both such beautiful people.
Speaker 1: Did anybody bring up the Talking Traders podcast too?
Speaker 2: While you were there? Yes? So, first of all, fans
Speaker 2: stopped me like in the airport and they were like
Speaker 2: they saw me and Bergie together at Lax and they
Speaker 2: were like, Janelle Bergie and they were like, we've been
Speaker 2: listening to you and Tamor on the podcast. Why were
Speaker 2: you in the last one with Dan? And I was
Speaker 2: like I had something going on or whatever. He's like
Speaker 2: it's the best one. He's like, it's the best podcast
Speaker 2: there is out there. He was a massive fan.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so people are thank you, fan, I know.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't brought up with the reunion, but it
Speaker 1: was brought up I after the reunion. I talked to Poverty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she said, I'm so sorry. I put my foot
Speaker 1: in my mouth and I shouldn't have said that. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you think, like seriously, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think like, I think she was maybe a little jealous
Speaker 1: that we're doing doing this podcast and the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't make it very far and I
Speaker 1: didn't do much because I was so sick. That she's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, who does she think she is?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you've you've been on TV since what
Speaker 2: two thousand and three or something.
Speaker 1: Right, I've been on for sixteen years. Yeah, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, just shut up. But we made up. Everything
Speaker 1: was fine, Everything was fine.
Speaker 2: That's good that you patched it up. She's really I
Speaker 2: think she you know how these podcasts can get when
Speaker 2: people interview, things can get slipped or you say whatever
Speaker 2: and you're like, oops, I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like my people shady, just like
Speaker 1: my housewives. I like him shady and messy.
Speaker 2: That's how I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just having her housewife moment. She was, Yes,
Speaker 1: definitely still a little host chat. So this episode started
Speaker 1: off with Peter getting banished. Were you surprised at all?
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean with him not taking the you know,
Speaker 2: seduction and being becoming a trader, he's such a huge
Speaker 2: target to be either banished or murdered or whatever. Like
Speaker 2: these people they're going to get him out of the game.
Speaker 2: There's just no way he's of the faithfuls like he's
Speaker 2: they're gonna take him out.
Speaker 1: But not only did Peter give put it off, the
Speaker 1: Traders decided to murder John. Do you think that was
Speaker 1: a smart move on Page's part? What would you've done?
Speaker 2: I do not think it was smart to murder either.
Speaker 2: John had visibly said at the round table. If I'm
Speaker 2: saying you are a Trader right now, Fadra and me
Speaker 2: saying that I will probably die tonight and he dies,
Speaker 2: and it's like.
Speaker 1: I think that she he they should have murdered MJ
Speaker 1: or Charet just to make a point MJ.
Speaker 2: MJ for sure, Like I think you needed to kind
Speaker 2: of this is when you kind of maybe need to
Speaker 2: go after your own a little bit. Even though you're
Speaker 2: so comfortable and you've got the numbers to take people out,
Speaker 2: you do want to like create some sort of like hey, like,
Speaker 2: there's no way Vader would murder m J.
Speaker 1: I know, I was really hoping Fader would out smart
Speaker 1: everyone and make it to the end, I know, but
Speaker 1: she really kind of gave up and we'll get into
Speaker 1: that when we go over the episode. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: girl is tired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is. I think it worn out. And from
Speaker 2: talking with her, she was only sleeping like two hours
Speaker 2: a night because of her hair and makeup and like
Speaker 2: her glam, she's living on two hours of sleep.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine. I could not imagine we were
Speaker 1: living on and spent. We were living on four to
Speaker 1: five hours sleep, and that catches up with you, especially
Speaker 1: if someone like me, I'm like eight to ten hours
Speaker 1: a night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Dan really screwed up her game?
Speaker 2: I do, and I love Dan and he knows that.
Speaker 2: But him coming at her, I think it shocked everyone.
Speaker 2: It was like he put a giant spotlight on her
Speaker 2: at that banishment table, and everyone was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: he's giving us a trader.
Speaker 1: Do you think he broke the oath?
Speaker 2: Yes, but it is in the rules to go after
Speaker 2: another trader at the banishment table. That isn't the rules
Speaker 2: as well, you can target another trader.
Speaker 1: So he didn't really break any rules. I break the oath.
Speaker 2: No. I think I think that Phedro was a more
Speaker 2: faithful trader than Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Dan's shady Dan. He's kind of a worm
Speaker 2: when you play with him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Dan's a worm. Dan's a worm. Oh well, I met
Speaker 1: Dan's wife. She's a big fan of Housewife. She was
Speaker 1: super sweet. I fell back in love with Dan after
Speaker 1: being with him. I just I mean, he's a gamer,
Speaker 1: you know. I didn't know he was. I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was a one of those Twitch players. What are they?
Speaker 1: My daughter does stuff like that? So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he like he makes money off of this.
Speaker 2: He makes tons of money on just like connecting with
Speaker 2: his fans and playing video games and just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: them playing games. He loves it.
Speaker 1: My daughter's friends do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they make.
Speaker 1: Money on Twitch.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I know. How do you think Kate is doing as
Speaker 1: a trader? Do you think she's flying under the radar effectively?
Speaker 2: I really don't think that she's flying under the radar.
Speaker 2: It's too much, do you No? God? No, I think
Speaker 2: the best trader.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into that a little bit. Like her,
Speaker 1: one of her moves this episode is like what were
Speaker 1: you thinking? Yeah, what were you thinking? Well, there's some
Speaker 1: headlines that have broke out this week about traders, and
Speaker 1: one of them we have talked about fans sink the
Speaker 1: Trader star Peter Webber and Ecken sew are dating page
Speaker 1: six article, so it's out there. In page six Trader
Speaker 1: fans are convinced that co star Peter Webber and Ecken
Speaker 1: Sue or an item. After a few social media clues
Speaker 1: hinted that the pair may be dating. Peter's mother, Barbara
Speaker 1: Weber was first to seemingly blow their cover by leaving
Speaker 1: a series the sweet messages on eckens Instagram post.
Speaker 2: In addition to.
Speaker 1: This, she confirmed she met with met and shares a
Speaker 1: bond with eck and Sue by posting a picture of herself,
Speaker 1: Peter's sister in law, Kristin Weber, and ecken Seue caption
Speaker 1: Ladies Afternoon on Sunset.
Speaker 2: I love that, I do.
Speaker 1: I love it too, and I if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I feel like there was a love connection and of
Speaker 1: the first Traders.
Speaker 2: No, there was, yes, Geraldine and Christian who was the
Speaker 2: Trader from life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like that just now I see
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not an actress, but I could see
Speaker 1: now how you go on set and you spend so
Speaker 1: much time with somebody and then a romance happens.
Speaker 2: It happens because you're spending all this time together and
Speaker 2: you're going through something like so emotional that you need
Speaker 2: that person. You're like, oh my god, you're emotionally fulfilling
Speaker 2: me right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And unfortunately in Hollywood it's usually married people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: married people that do it, okay. Another article came out
Speaker 1: from us A Weekly, Poverty slams Tammer and Janelle for
Speaker 1: trying to say they knew after the fact who the
Speaker 1: Traders were. She stated, Janelle doing the podcast with Tamra,
Speaker 1: Tamra's trying to get her fifteen minutes of from this
Speaker 1: because she didn't do much on the show, Poverty said,
Speaker 1: referring to Janelle's appearance on Tamra's podcast Talking Traders earlier
Speaker 1: this month. Bananas meanwhile noted that he didn't believe Janelle
Speaker 1: identified the traders early on. Loved Janelle to death, but
Speaker 1: Janelle claims she knew the entire game the second she
Speaker 1: walked in the house. She's like, I knew Dan was
Speaker 1: a trader. I knew Poverty was a trader. I'm like,
Speaker 1: did you come on? He said. However, Janelle fired back
Speaker 1: with receipts from a screenshot of an October twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three dam thread between herself and Tamra.
Speaker 2: Yes, I provide those receipts and I have even more.
Speaker 2: This is my day too traders thing where I write
Speaker 2: everyone down. Of course, beautiful Tamarra is a faithful I
Speaker 2: wrote everything down.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you did.
Speaker 2: On day two. I had John as a trader, Harvedy
Speaker 2: as a trader, Dan as a trader, and I had Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I mean, and Pappermant is a trader. I thought
Speaker 2: she was a trader because.
Speaker 1: Peppermint was a trader. I need to find mine. I
Speaker 1: know that I have it around here somewhere, but so.
Speaker 2: I should have out there. But I wrote everything down
Speaker 2: just like you did. I know you journaled, and I did,
Speaker 2: and it was so important because I don't like it
Speaker 2: when people say, oh, Janelle, you wouldn't have known. It's like,
Speaker 2: just because it's not on the show, it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that I didn't think that or feel that. Like I
Speaker 2: immediately told you how I felt because I had provided
Speaker 2: the texts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and poverty with traders, So you guys, So for
Speaker 1: you and for those of you that don't know, after
Speaker 1: we play the game, when we're done. We settle into bed,
Speaker 1: probably around midnight, and then we get our They gave
Speaker 1: us journals, they gave us pictures of everybody, and we
Speaker 1: would write notes because if you don't write notes sometimes,
Speaker 1: especially someone like me, I just forget, you forget what happened.
Speaker 1: So would every single night, So realistically, I think I
Speaker 1: would go to bed at about one, yeah.
Speaker 2: One or two because I was always writing everything down.
Speaker 1: And they wouldn't let me bring my gummies to Scotland.
Speaker 1: They're illegal, so THHC is yeah, melatonin is illegal. You
Speaker 1: need a prescription.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Oh so I have TC.
Speaker 1: And melotonia and my gummy So I'm like, it was
Speaker 1: really hard for me to fall asleep because I'm so
Speaker 1: used to it and so it was really hard. So
Speaker 1: literally three four hours a night of sleep.
Speaker 2: It was horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the episode. So this is episode ten.
Speaker 1: There's only one episode back left. We have seen the
Speaker 1: final episode we had to watch before the reunion. It
Speaker 1: is insane.
Speaker 2: It is such a great episode. I was freaking out.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 1: It's so much better than first season, oh miles better.
Speaker 2: But it's also the gass like you you know, you're
Speaker 2: when we put all these gamers and housewives and people
Speaker 2: from other shows, and I really think they did their
Speaker 2: homework on these people and did like personality tests on
Speaker 2: us to figure out how crazy and competitive we were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Peter go, I know, I know
Speaker 1: it was. It's so good, you guys. My mom list
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Now she came home. She'sed to live with us,
Speaker 1: so she came over and she's like, yesterday, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I am watching Traders. This is insane, insane, Like she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I go, it's good, Mom, I told you
Speaker 1: it's good. Okay, So let's dive into it. So it's
Speaker 1: between Peter and Phaedra, and MJ has the final vote.
Speaker 1: MJ votes for Peter banish him, banishing him, Peter reveals
Speaker 1: he was a faithful Time is running out to bring
Speaker 1: the Traders to justice. John and Michelle hold hands, and
Speaker 1: Michelle thanks c T for having her back. Trichelle says
Speaker 1: she's probably going home, but she still thinks Paedra's a trader.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything Phaedri can do to rally
Speaker 1: people around her? Or was Peter's banishment telling to you?
Speaker 2: I mean I feel also Peter's banishment to me personally
Speaker 2: was like the Bravo voting block too, because I think
Speaker 2: I believe that MJ knew that Peter was a faithful
Speaker 2: and was like I don't care. Yeah, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it was an obvious
Speaker 2: thing like in the game. And she even said that
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, I wasn't really I think she
Speaker 2: knew Peter was a faithful, but she was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, it's better to have you know, Fader in
Speaker 2: here for her game purposes. And I get that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Bravo girls know Fadre is
Speaker 1: a trader deep down and are just afraid to crossing
Speaker 1: her because they want to make it to the end.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, I if one of them, they
Speaker 2: really need to think about the numbers, because even if
Speaker 2: they all went to the end with Fader and got
Speaker 2: rid of everyone, every single person from the Leftover Alliance
Speaker 2: or from the whatever Peter's pals Peter, they still have
Speaker 2: to all decide to vote her outlet she needs to
Speaker 2: be voted out, and if she's there with any of them,
Speaker 2: in tricks them like Charat, Like I don't know. I
Speaker 2: feel like Charay would have problems banishing Phaedra.
Speaker 1: Don't you like they're so I do, They're so close,
Speaker 1: And I think that they knew. I think MJ knew.
Speaker 1: I think everybody knew. I mean you even see it
Speaker 1: in Phaedra's banishment. Nobody clapped, nobody got excited.
Speaker 2: They weren't excited.
Speaker 1: It was like everybody was sad. And I'm like, you
Speaker 1: guys just got a trader out and nobody.
Speaker 2: Was trader in the game, by the way, who was
Speaker 2: so lethal and so good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Well, John's convinced he's on his way out.
Speaker 1: I shall say my goodbyes. Yes, can we talk about
Speaker 1: how mon went? When did John was at the reunion?
Speaker 2: He loves to you know, I think debate in speech
Speaker 2: or what.
Speaker 1: He's a debater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a debater. He loves to hear himself talk
Speaker 2: and he won't stop. He just keeps talking. He did
Speaker 2: that at the banishment tables. He did at the reunion.
Speaker 1: I cut it down.
Speaker 2: They had to. God, Will told me that the producers
Speaker 2: had to step in when he was at the cabin
Speaker 2: and they were like, Johnny, just stop speaking to Will.
Speaker 2: At this point, it's been a ten minute conversation just
Speaker 2: talking me.
Speaker 1: He just he's got the gift of gab and he
Speaker 1: did it at the reunion. At one point I said, Andy,
Speaker 1: please stop asking him questions. We'll be here all night.
Speaker 1: We'll be here all night. And he looked at me,
Speaker 1: like you But I love John, I really do. I
Speaker 1: missed him after seeing him, I'm like, I miss you.
Speaker 2: He really is like his whole breathing thing, it's like
Speaker 2: more funny than anything like with us three.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, he's like, what I was a child,
Speaker 1: I had asthmatic. And I'm like, you didn't say that.
Speaker 1: You said you had asthma. You did not say as
Speaker 1: a child.
Speaker 2: But you know what, camera, if you watch the UK
Speaker 2: season two, the exact same thing happens on that season.
Speaker 2: What yes, the same exact thing, Like right after the
Speaker 2: Traders were picked, this lady's like, you're breathing weird.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, it's like.
Speaker 2: Super common I think for people to just like maybe
Speaker 2: it's like stress stress breathing or something.
Speaker 1: Well, you know when everybody takes a blindfolds off and
Speaker 1: then you you're looking at everybody, you're just trying to
Speaker 1: find a sign. Is somebody twitching. Is their eye twitching?
Speaker 1: Is the shoulder raising? Are they breathing weird? Are they
Speaker 1: tapping their foot? You just try to find, you know.
Speaker 2: I know that I felt like my heart was coming
Speaker 2: out of my chest, you know, like I felt like
Speaker 2: I was going to explode. The adrenaline was so much.
Speaker 2: So I get it that the breathing thing could be
Speaker 2: weird for him. He's he doesn't even know he's doing it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: So Fadri knows she had support tonight, but cet switch sides,
Speaker 1: turning this into a numbers game. Fadri is choosing between
Speaker 1: John and Toschelle to murder. Who would you have murdered?
Speaker 1: I think I know this hand, so.
Speaker 2: If I'm Phaedra, I'm trying to save my game. John
Speaker 2: was so vocal. He said at the table, if if
Speaker 2: I'm voting for you tonight, you're killing me. And you
Speaker 2: know I was always writing things down, so I would
Speaker 2: have written that down in my little journal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: John dies tonight. It's because he voted for Fedra. So
Speaker 2: I would probably vote for Trischelle or get. I would
Speaker 2: murder Trichelle if I were Fedra because she is way
Speaker 2: more dangerous to Faedra's game than John.
Speaker 1: But would you have just voted one of the the
Speaker 1: MJ the Bravo girls out just to prove a point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would have Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I probably somebody. I would murder somebody
Speaker 1: to take the suspicion off of me.
Speaker 2: If I was Phaedra, MJ would have been the best choice.
Speaker 1: Would have been the best Charat would have been the
Speaker 1: absolute best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're so pleased. But I think it would
Speaker 2: just be like, I don't know that Faedrier could do
Speaker 2: that to her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the players arrived to breakfast. Fasier just has to
Speaker 1: get through the day to make it to the end.
Speaker 1: The last player to walk in or Trichelle and Kate
Speaker 1: John was murdered. Trichelle is devastated, her entire group is gone.
Speaker 1: CT is the only guy left. Sandra wants to make
Speaker 1: friends with Faedri to protect for some so she knows,
Speaker 1: she absolutely knows. MJ tells Kate and Cherie they have
Speaker 1: to vote for Faedra. Kate tries to convince them that
Speaker 1: they should vote for Sandra. Vadra seems to be breaking
Speaker 1: at this point. I feel like she's she can't answer
Speaker 1: her question. She's over it, but she has one day left.
Speaker 1: She's an attorney. I was I was a little bit
Speaker 1: in awe that she did not fight harder for herself.
Speaker 1: You can tell she's exhausted of hiding, fighting, lying, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But when CT questions Fadra at breakfast and
Speaker 1: if she's a trader, she just says, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he asked her if she was a trader or
Speaker 1: who the trader was, but her response was somebody's got
Speaker 1: to be a trader.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She did the Dan thing where she didn't want
Speaker 2: to give a name, which is such a big tell,
Speaker 2: like you got to give some names. She should have
Speaker 2: been like, it's Sandra, does CT.
Speaker 1: Well, she played the game when I was there the
Speaker 1: first four episodes. That's how she played the game. She
Speaker 1: never talked about the game at all. She never talked
Speaker 1: about who's a trader who's not? And I think that's
Speaker 1: why I got murdered, just because I asked her at
Speaker 1: one time. I'm like, you don't talk game, like what's
Speaker 1: going on? And she's like yeah, god yeah. So they
Speaker 1: go on. The prize fund stands at one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty nine, seven hundred and fifty dollars. This mission will
Speaker 1: be the last chance to earn a shield. In today's mission,
Speaker 1: players will find gold nuggets and transport them across to
Speaker 1: an unstable bridge that is floating in water. They must
Speaker 1: equal the weight in gold nuggets to earn thirty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: but they lose money with every gold nugget they drop
Speaker 1: in the water. They're trying across the bridge, which is
Speaker 1: so hysterical. I would have loved to do this one.
Speaker 2: I would love it too. It looks like the best
Speaker 2: mission ever. I'm so sad I'm not there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody's bickering as they dig through the dirt
Speaker 1: to find the shield. MJ finds it trying to cross
Speaker 1: the bridge to bring to safety, but falls in the water.
Speaker 1: But she held on to her shield. That's good to
Speaker 1: show's the first to make it across. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying the whole time. I'm like, just
Speaker 1: run it, run it. You can't stop. And I was
Speaker 1: dying because Alan laughing every time somebody falls in the
Speaker 1: water was hilarious.
Speaker 2: It was so funny.
Speaker 1: And then they do a whole montage, you know, a
Speaker 1: falls and it just by the way it looked like
Speaker 1: it hurt because they fall, they land on their forearms.
Speaker 1: I'm like ouch. Yeah, But at this point, the Bravo
Speaker 1: girls are basically letting the gamers do all the heavy
Speaker 1: lifting from here on out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was kind of like that though
Speaker 2: in the middle. Don't you think that catapult mission they
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of Bravo help with the catapult.
Speaker 1: Oh either with the bug one too. Were the first
Speaker 1: ones out. Get me out of here, Get me out
Speaker 1: of here. So Sandra knows Phadria is the trader. Kate
Speaker 1: is hoping she can convince the faithfuls to vote for Sandra.
Speaker 1: Kate suggests they save Fadra and roll the dice on Sandra.
Speaker 1: Sandra interrupts Kate ct MJ's conversation. Kate mentions they should
Speaker 1: roll the dice tonight, but doesn't say who the other
Speaker 1: trader could be. Chara has a heart to heart with Faedra,
Speaker 1: telling her they're all gunning for her. Chara asked Padra straightforward,
Speaker 1: are you a trader? Faedra lies and says no. But
Speaker 1: what Faedra says is am I a what? And then
Speaker 1: she like like she blew it. She totally blew it.
Speaker 1: I mean, she could have had like and it's so
Speaker 1: weird because you see Faedra all season just being so
Speaker 1: talkative and knowing saying the right thing and having, you know,
Speaker 1: the right punchline and everything, and Fadri's like, am I
Speaker 1: A what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think she's just mentally spent at this point.
Speaker 2: It's just the game's getting to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell. I mean, I was halfway and
Speaker 1: I don't think she could have done this. But when
Speaker 1: she paused like that and said, am I A what?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was halfway expecting her to say, I am and
Speaker 1: I will take and I will take you to the
Speaker 1: end if you keep it a secret. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if she can do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she can do that, though, I
Speaker 2: don't know. You cannot reveal that you're a trader.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can't reveal.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, she's gonna tell her.
Speaker 1: She's gonna tell her. I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: she can tell her, but she's like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: very convincing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can tell that.
Speaker 1: It was hard for Faedra to lie to Charret. For sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, they're besties, I know.
Speaker 1: So it's time for the roundtable. This is one of
Speaker 1: the last times the players can banish a trader. Michelle
Speaker 1: speaks first, pointing out every time there's a banished, every
Speaker 1: time they've banished it faithful, they always say, you'll see
Speaker 1: you're making a mistake. The only ones who haven't reacted
Speaker 1: like that are the traders. Chochelle points out that Faedra
Speaker 1: Chrichelle is so smart.
Speaker 2: I know she plays a great game. She promply aggressive,
Speaker 2: faithful game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Trischelle points out that Pedro was silent when they
Speaker 1: voted for her. MJSA says, because Phaedra's nature and demeanor,
Speaker 1: she can see her being a trader. I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's her nature or her demeanor. I think that
Speaker 1: she just she didn't know what to do. I think
Speaker 1: she's a performer. She's not a gamer.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's as strategic, but she's good at
Speaker 2: hiding her emotions a little bit and being very social
Speaker 2: with everyone. Everyone really loved her.
Speaker 1: But that was her game. That is her entire game.
Speaker 1: There was no other strategy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't she wasn't like so strategic, but her
Speaker 2: social game is like so good. Yeah, and it.
Speaker 1: Helped her get very far in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sandra says it's going to kill her if Phaeder ends
Speaker 1: up being a trader. But the signs are all there,
Speaker 1: Faedria tries, telling them they have no concrete evidence against her.
Speaker 1: Did you really Sharaye and Pedro were friends? I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that Sharayane Faeder for friends for thirty years, so
Speaker 1: that which I.
Speaker 2: Did hard me that she told me that they had
Speaker 2: been friends forever. They have like so many mutual friends
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, like they always see each other and hang out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Charre is confused on who to vote for
Speaker 1: and think she knows it's Faedra. Do you think Fadra
Speaker 1: could have said anything to save herself.
Speaker 2: I think that she really needed to get people and
Speaker 2: go after Sandra, and she didn't really put in the
Speaker 2: work to do that. I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: because she felt bad and didn't want to hurt Sandra. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the move to do, is to try and
Speaker 2: get into votes to get Sandra out of there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about going after Kate? Do you think that
Speaker 1: would have been a good move? Not at that point, right, because.
Speaker 2: Nobody else You're just kind of throwing another trader under
Speaker 2: the bus thing. I think there's already so much suspicion
Speaker 2: on Sandra because she had just done that stupid what
Speaker 2: was that that where they were shooting those glass things?
Speaker 2: And remember CT like Sandra, you because see Teeth pretty
Speaker 2: much thinks that Sandra and Faedra are the two traders
Speaker 2: left because he at that banishment table, he said, Sandra,
Speaker 2: you and Faedra directly went like this, and he drew
Speaker 2: the little the map up and he's like, you went
Speaker 2: for the Trichelle. Why why would you do that? Like?
Speaker 2: Why did why did Sandra try to make Trischelle not
Speaker 2: get a shield? So Sandra was suspicious as a trader
Speaker 2: to people, I think at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sandra just kind of flew under the radar,
Speaker 1: she really did.
Speaker 2: I'll see that.
Speaker 1: Very nice but knowing she's a dangerous.
Speaker 2: Player, yes, very dangerous, very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Now Kate, let's talk about Kate. Do you think Kate
Speaker 1: is trying hard to duplicate her performance from last season?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's falling a little flat for me personally,
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, it's a little flat, like the vote,
Speaker 2: the jokes are a little forced, not so natural.
Speaker 1: She I love her to death, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it was it just didn't land well.
Speaker 2: It just didn't land well. And she just had a baby.
Speaker 2: And maybe it was a last minute requests that she
Speaker 2: come out there. I don't know, but it just didn't.
Speaker 2: She didn't. She didn't have the same spark.
Speaker 1: No, she didn't. So it's time about Shara's first voting
Speaker 1: for Fedra. Kate votes for Fedra as well, calling her
Speaker 1: more selfish than skillful, Pedro votes for CT and everybody
Speaker 1: else votes for for Faedra. It's did Uh what did
Speaker 1: you think about Kate's comment you're more selfish and skillful?
Speaker 1: Do youn't even know what that meant?
Speaker 2: No? Like, why is she calling her selfish? She freaking
Speaker 2: recruited your girl? Like, how was that selfish?
Speaker 1: I don't. I still even after having this being at
Speaker 1: the reunion, I still don't understand. Why then, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it really doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know she was selfish on because she did.
Speaker 2: It's not like she took Kate. She demanded that there
Speaker 2: was a murder and Kate didn't want to agree to it,
Speaker 2: like she did everything she wanted.
Speaker 1: But this put a huge target on Kate's back because
Speaker 1: here she is, Bestie's with her, everybody sees them talking,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, she you know, she's saying,
Speaker 1: go for Sandra, Go for Sandra, and out the round
Speaker 1: table she's like, Okay, I'm voting for you, Pedra.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: her look trustworthy at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sandra asked Kate why she called Phaedra's selfish. Kate
Speaker 1: tries to defend herself, saying she realized Padri's murdering pattern
Speaker 1: was selfish by going after the specific group of faithfuls.
Speaker 1: Sandra admits it doesn't add up. She suspects Kate as
Speaker 1: being the last Trader. Cheray got super emotional. That was
Speaker 1: really sad. I just the whole Kate coming for Padri
Speaker 1: just didn't make any sense and just made people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just made people think that she's a Trader now.
Speaker 2: Guilty.
Speaker 1: So it was guilty. So we only have one more
Speaker 1: episode left, and I'm telling you, guys, it is so good.
Speaker 2: So good. It's like so shocking and never been nothing
Speaker 2: has happen been like this on any Trader season, any
Speaker 2: international version I know.
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that Kate was brought in mid
Speaker 1: season because of all the loud mouse were gone and
Speaker 1: they wanted to put her in or do you think
Speaker 1: this was always planned?
Speaker 2: You know, I think it was planned. The producers told me,
Speaker 2: like I had had a conversation with them in LA
Speaker 2: and they were like, everything was planned, Like there's certain
Speaker 2: like things in the UK that they have to go by.
Speaker 2: They said, like the Chalice thing was planned, the torch
Speaker 2: sacrifice was planned, the Kate twist was planned. And so
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they're lying, but no.
Speaker 1: I would imagine. I mean, this was a huge production.
Speaker 1: I've worked on a lot.
Speaker 2: Are you really gonna call Kate last minute though, like
Speaker 2: a week before and be like, oh, hey, Deonte left,
Speaker 2: you need to come here and you have like a
Speaker 2: three month old baby, Like that's kind of a weird.
Speaker 2: I know, Well you got to get someone like that
Speaker 2: a lot of notice.
Speaker 1: That's hard leave ye a baby like that. I had
Speaker 1: talked to her. She's one person that did know that
Speaker 1: I was doing Traders because I have a friendship with
Speaker 1: her and and you know, I knew she was on it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, tell me what you need to know,
Speaker 1: and she's like, it's like being in prison. It's like
Speaker 1: being in prison. You don't have any phone. You have this,
Speaker 1: you don't have that, Like, you don't know what date is,
Speaker 1: you know what time it is.
Speaker 2: I don't think any of that matters, though, because when
Speaker 2: you play Traders, you don't even want your phone. You
Speaker 2: just want to find traders and win. Yeah's how you play.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, God, what's going on in the world?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 1: Whyfe got arrested this week? Do we know when the reunionaires.
Speaker 2: The same day as the episode?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the same day. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, March seventh.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, so you get to watch next week's episode
Speaker 1: and the reunion right after. Do we know there are
Speaker 1: they casting right now?
Speaker 2: They are casting. I've heard of people getting called. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's been calls that go out. I think that. I
Speaker 2: asked the production I was like, so, do you guys
Speaker 2: have the cast or whatever. He's like, we haven't even
Speaker 2: started planning the games yet, but they're trying to do
Speaker 2: that because they're going to be filming the UK first.
Speaker 2: The American version goes after. I think that happens in May,
Speaker 2: so it's coming up.
Speaker 1: Phaedra said to me at the reunion, Well, why haven't
Speaker 1: you had me on? And I said, because you're still playing.
Speaker 1: I want to get you after you're off so you
Speaker 1: can talk more, you know, yeah freely. And so we
Speaker 1: asked her for today very last minute, and she had
Speaker 1: something going on so she couldn't do it. But I
Speaker 1: think that we should do a few more interviews after this, like.
Speaker 2: Also tam Rock. For me, the reunion was like very
Speaker 2: telling because it's like you're not playing a game anymore.
Speaker 2: Like I saw people for who they really were at
Speaker 2: the reunion. Yeah, especially I was like, she's actually like
Speaker 2: a really good person.
Speaker 1: She has Paeder is a great person. Yeah, she's got
Speaker 1: a lot to say, because she said a lot. She's
Speaker 1: not happy with Dan.
Speaker 2: No that they are never going to be friends.
Speaker 1: And no, no, no. But they did both go to
Speaker 1: Peter's mom's house afterwards, so maybe there was some resolution.
Speaker 1: Maybe they got together and said, okay, let's just move forward.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what dance Willy. He apologized privately and in
Speaker 2: public to her, But it's just not.
Speaker 1: It's a game, guys. But they stood next to each
Speaker 1: other in a picture which at Peter's house, and I
Speaker 1: put my investigation hat on going they gotta be bad
Speaker 1: they gotta be a bad place they got to be.
Speaker 1: But anyways, okay, well, thank you so much and I
Speaker 1: will talk to you in a little bit right By
Speaker 1: tam Nye