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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and welcome to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 2: you field side here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 2: where the Browns will have their final public practice before

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Speaker 2: the second preseason game, the first where we will see

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Speaker 2: the starters this Friday against the Washington Are Hot Topics

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Speaker 2: experienced partner of the Cleveland Browns. Are that final practice,

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Speaker 2: we heard from Deshaun Watson that he will start at

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Speaker 2: quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in this game against the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: We will hear I'm sure a lot more from Brown's

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Speaker 2: head coach Kevin Stefanci coming up in just a little bit, Gibbe,

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Speaker 2: but this is going to be kind of the first

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Speaker 2: tune up for the starters, and we all remember that

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Speaker 2: first tune up a year ago down in Jacksonville did

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Speaker 2: not go as well, drops, fumbles, injuries. Hopefully this one

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Speaker 2: will go a lot better than that.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hope so. And in front of the home

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Speaker 3: the home crowd, the only time the home crowd will

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Speaker 3: get to see us next time Cincinnati Week one. Yep,

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Speaker 3: so weather looks to be good. Starter is gonna play

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Speaker 3: a little bit and we'll hear more from Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 3: about that at one thirty today. But I mean this

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Speaker 3: is the last open practice to the public for ten days. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that tomorrow. We'll go through a walk through

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Speaker 3: Friday morning, some last minute adjustments, tweaks, and it's game day.

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Speaker 3: Saturday is a player off day. Sunday, fly into Philly

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Speaker 3: and then off to joint practices with the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: So I mean it's.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we will have one week left

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Speaker 3: of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that part of it is wild, it feels like

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Speaker 2: and it's funny. We talked about how success successful that

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Speaker 2: just even this week, just being here for this and

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Speaker 2: this will only be like the third practice or fourth practice,

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Speaker 2: I guess of the week.

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Speaker 4: It feels like we've.

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Speaker 2: Been here for a while already and you're ready to

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Speaker 2: get things going. Nice practice on Monday in the rain,

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Speaker 2: I thought Sean Watson the offense had a very very

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Speaker 2: good day. You want to see that rhythm kind of

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Speaker 2: continue here today on Wednesday as they get ready for

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Speaker 2: that game level walk through tomorrow game on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Moore had himself a nice little time, as he

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Speaker 3: told us earlier, was awesome. Loved it every part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elijah Moore, we saw him as he was walking out,

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Speaker 2: you know obviously in the media once talk to him.

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Speaker 2: He's been such a great offseason story and certainly confident

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Speaker 2: and excited to see that carry through into the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he had some fun making some slide catch that.

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Speaker 2: It was great being out there in the rain. And

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Speaker 2: it's funny you talk to some people like Joe was

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, in the rain it makes it

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Speaker 2: harder for the offense. And then on the other side

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Speaker 2: of it, you talk to some of the receivers and

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Speaker 2: they're like, well, we know where we're going, so we

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Speaker 2: know how to put our feet and know exactly where

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Speaker 2: we're going so they think it's easier for them. As

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Speaker 2: we see the biggest of bees Bo Bishop making his

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Speaker 2: way in unavoidably detained by traffic people just trying to

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Speaker 4: And I'm not, for one, I'm not having it. But

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Speaker 4: it's great to see you.

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Speaker 2: You look resplendent in a beautiful eyes on hoodie, your

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Speaker 2: lovely shorts.

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 5: I just I think we're at a point now.

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Speaker 4: Where you're done with training camp.

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Speaker 6: No, it's this wasn't this isn't even a training camp

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Speaker 4: Have more lanes, Yeah, there's not a lot for you.

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Speaker 4: Got to have more lanes. There's too much.

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Speaker 4: And it is two lanes both ways.

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Speaker 6: It's two lanes both ways. But there's not enough. There's

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Speaker 6: you add like a training camp into it, it's untenable.

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Speaker 4: It's untenable. But you know what you're here now, what

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Speaker 4: I miss how do we do it?

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Speaker 2: Will? You know I was trying to I got to

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Speaker 2: discuss I've done you know, three minutes of your thirteen

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Speaker 2: done three. So now we're I'm at negative ten, trying

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Speaker 2: get back at him even where you feel the least. Well, yeah, beginning,

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit. It's a little Well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: He is here and so you have a compatriot. You're

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Speaker 3: That's not a while. I throw some things out that matter.

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Speaker 6: You also knew that I was coming imminently versus just

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Speaker 6: the nebulous of I did.

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Speaker 4: No clue. I tried to call when it would start

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Speaker 5: Well, you're just talking.

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Speaker 2: You're a hero, You're a hero. I was just trying

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Speaker 2: to make light of your heroism and bring it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly. You were pretty good, by the way. A

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Speaker 2: little bit of injury news and notes for you with

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Speaker 2: the Browns. After we went off the air, it was

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Speaker 2: announced that Alex Rthy and Isaiah Thomas both underwent arthroscopic

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Speaker 2: changes the calculus of your initial fifty three, because you're

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Speaker 2: going to face some tough decisions there. You can either,

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Speaker 2: put them on the initial fifty three. They've got to

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Speaker 4: But you cannot.

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Speaker 2: You've got to carry them or I'm sorry, you could

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Speaker 2: either put them on the pup they're out six weeks,

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Speaker 4: But again, just adds a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of a challenge to that final fifty three

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Speaker 6: Well, let me just ask you ask this. Do you

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Speaker 6: with where you're at. I think a defensive end, you're

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Speaker 6: you probably need a running back if Jerome Ford is

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Speaker 6: going to miss significant time. Now we're looking at Jerome

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Speaker 2: You want to make sure that he's okay. But that

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Speaker 2: I think you need another defensive tackle in here. I

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Speaker 2: think that at this point it's pretty clear Dalvin Thomlinson

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Speaker 2: I think that you need to get somebody else in there,

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Speaker 2: You know, we hope obviously that for Jordan Elliott this

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Speaker 6: We've talked about this many many times, and it's a

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Speaker 6: pretty I think it's a very important point. This is

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Speaker 6: But I think one hundred percent you have to do

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Speaker 2: Going to be here before we know it, yep, and

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Speaker 2: you got to be ready. You have got to be

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Speaker 2: ready everywhere. And look, Jordan Elliott, you know, Siaki Eka

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Speaker 2: they can show you here Friday, we'll take it against

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Speaker 2: the Commanders. That makes you feel better. But until that happens,

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Speaker 2: you know, I do think you want to get in there.

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Speaker 2: Remember Alex Wright was going to be used inside on

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Speaker 2: else is brought in, as we've discussed, but that's kind

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Speaker 2: see kind of maybe I think we'll get a little

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Speaker 4: Be playing, who will not be playing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we know Deshaun Watson will start

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Speaker 2: don't know about you know, the Nick Chubbs, the Miles Garretts,

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Speaker 6: The John football had less, it had some less, it

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Speaker 6: Well, and then I saw the start this morning, going

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Speaker 6: This is him. He did this in an effort to

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Speaker 6: That's why I said this needed to be done when

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Speaker 2: It's too close, and you need to interview people. You

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Speaker 4: And some guy who covered football at Texas A and m.

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Speaker 6: All right, so we we've been You heard this word

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Speaker 2: It wasn't so much that it was cool that he

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Speaker 6: So he painted what did he not like basically said

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Speaker 2: I remember at that time, you know, I did my

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Speaker 2: It's got to be your lifestyle. Everything you do has

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Speaker 4: And obviously he got away with a ton. They went

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Speaker 7: Detail, how much he made for the autograph signings that

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Speaker 6: I remember reading it before his sophomore year. Remember, he's

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Speaker 6: cart court side stuff, all this stuff's popping. Right Thompson

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Speaker 6: goes to his family golf course. I'm telling the audience

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Speaker 6: that you've read it as well. But he goes goes

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Speaker 6: to family golf course, and right Thompson follows him, and

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Speaker 6: he's under twenty one at the moment. He's ordering beers

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Speaker 6: left and right while playing golf, having the time of

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Speaker 6: his life. The thing that always was alarmist to me.

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Speaker 6: They sit down to a family dinner in the story

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Speaker 6: and I'm sure you can find it online, and he's

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Speaker 6: orders a beer and the waiters like, I need to

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Speaker 6: you know, some I d and he's like his dad

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Speaker 6: like steps in and allows for him to have the

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Speaker 6: beer his family dinner, and then he accosts the ant,

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Speaker 6: like goes at his ant incredibly disrespectful, and nobody calls

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Speaker 6: him out for it at the dinner.

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Speaker 5: And in reading that, at that point.

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Speaker 6: That was the the reality of the BA Callahan's teammates

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Speaker 6: don't go to his birthday party. That was the reality

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Speaker 6: of that. It was like, there's something off. It's a

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Speaker 6: bad dude, Like he's got some real jerk punk tendencies

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Speaker 6: here that are real, and that red flag, to me,

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Speaker 6: should have been seven miles high.

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Speaker 4: I think that it was. I think that he also

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Speaker 4: is and can be.

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Speaker 2: He's he's smart, so he can be I think charming,

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Speaker 2: and he can be somebody who knows what people want

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Speaker 2: him to say.

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Speaker 4: Sure to say it.

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Speaker 6: So because if you juxtappose that with five eleven, one

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Speaker 6: seventy for sure.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is something man in.

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Speaker 7: Your leaf, like Leaf had red flags, but Leaf was

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Speaker 7: six or five at the combine.

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Speaker 2: He did a very good job in all of the

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Speaker 2: team meetings and everything that he had. I find it

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Speaker 2: hard to believe that if he was like pressed on

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Speaker 2: a whiteboard, that he would have been able to come

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Speaker 2: up with those answers.

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Speaker 4: Because if you.

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Speaker 2: Don't watch film, he didn't read his playbooks at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: I mean they Texas Tech.

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Speaker 7: And AM at Text A and M. I mean they

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Speaker 7: just didn't. I'm sorry, Texas A and M. They didn't

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Speaker 7: none of that.

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Speaker 2: I had Text Tech because Cliff Cliff leaves after that

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Speaker 2: great freshman year or red shirt freshman year. So it's

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Speaker 2: just one of those amazing things where you know, he

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Speaker 2: puts on a pro day where the president is there

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Speaker 2: for President w George Bush. You have it in pads,

487
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Speaker 2: and it comes out of this pro day like this

488
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Speaker 2: guy's gonna go in the top ten, Whereas before that

489
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Speaker 2: you see all the draft guys are like, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe he sneaks in the second round pick. That's even

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Speaker 2: what Burke had thought, you know, maybe he's gonna Burkhart

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Speaker 2: thought he was gonna get into the second round.

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Speaker 3: Is it a case of every team is like, he's

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Speaker 3: got the talent, can overcome this, we can fix it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that part of look for the

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Speaker 2: Browns at that point, it was their second first round pick.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're going to take a swing on it.

498
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Speaker 4: They've been desperate for a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy that, look, there's no doubt that from

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Speaker 2: a business standpoint, made a big impact immediately without ever

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Speaker 2: playing on the football field.

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Speaker 6: It's tantalizing he was and the highest level like that's

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Speaker 6: you talk about him and Tebow and like there were

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Speaker 6: guys at that time that were, you know, like when

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Speaker 6: six came in here, I mean Baker, Like these guys

506
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Speaker 6: were like known. That's the beauty of college football. It

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Speaker 6: curates stars. You're drafting a star. You dft Johnny Manzel,

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Speaker 6: You're drafting a star.

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the hardest bass that there's

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Speaker 2: a ton of value in that. I also think one of

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Speaker 2: the very hard things about that in our society and

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Speaker 2: with that star culture is you know, I think that

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Speaker 2: any of us who could sit here and say so,

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Speaker 2: I do have some empathy for Johnny. I think obviously

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of great things, but I think

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Speaker 2: he didn't handle a lot of things the right way,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I hope that he would have perhaps

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Speaker 2: maybe more regret than came through on that for certainly

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Speaker 2: his professional career. You know, he went back to tex

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Speaker 2: A and m and said, you know, because then he

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Speaker 2: goes after he leaves, then he kind of gets into

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Speaker 2: a very dark personal place. Yeah, And I think he

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Speaker 2: has some remorse for that about that spiral. He certainly

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Speaker 2: does not have any remorse for like what he did

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Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns who drafted him any that. I

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Speaker 2: just think that anybody who could sit there and say,

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Speaker 2: I know for sure that I would have done everything

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Speaker 2: the right way, and I would have been this great

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Speaker 2: guy as a twenty one year old, twenty year old,

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Speaker 2: you know, multi millionaire celebrity that you know, Justin Timberlake

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Speaker 2: wants to hang out with, and Drake's talking about you

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Speaker 2: as like one of your close personal friends, and just

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that you can possibly stay together,

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Speaker 2: and if you already have a propensity for you know,

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Speaker 2: drinking and partying and all that, it's I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you would ever rein that. In so I do

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Speaker 2: have some empathy there, but it's also that's part of

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Speaker 2: the risk calculation organization needs to make.

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Speaker 4: Can you know.

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Speaker 2: Obviously if they had to do it over again, nobody

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Speaker 2: would have drafted Johnny certainly nor Justin Gilbert in that draft.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that's a that's a hard part

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Speaker 2: of it. I think it's very easy to like judge

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Speaker 2: somebody who was in his shoes when there are so

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Speaker 2: few people that fly that close to the sun ever

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Speaker 2: in their lives.

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Speaker 5: I don't judge him at all.

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Speaker 6: I just think he was exactly as advertised and always

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Speaker 6: one no doubt. All right, we'll take a quick time out.

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Speaker 6: Coach Tefanski coming up. Have some thoughts on hard knocks

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Speaker 6: as well. Training camp practice. Is this number two open

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Speaker 6: to the public here in Bria because we had one

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Speaker 6: We had Monday and then.

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Speaker 3: No, this was like, yeah, this is like four or five.

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Speaker 6: Or the year it's all running together. Man, Yes, right,

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Speaker 6: we had a few. This this is gonna be a

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Speaker 6: big one though. Last one before most of the kids

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Speaker 6: go back to school. We'll document all before you were

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Speaker 6: I got a visual. He's me Andrew flat handing with

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Speaker 6: the people. A little bit of a high five for

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Speaker 6: the young uns and the mediums led by the fantastic

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Speaker 4: Walking over.

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Speaker 6: I'd say a medium gait, not in a big ur

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Speaker 6: but determined, ready, determined and ready, no rush.

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Speaker 4: All right here you go. Here's coach Devance get the podium.

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Speaker 4: Never heard, Yeah, I got it.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, today's stay in the game day for us. I

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Speaker 9: just want to acknowledge the kids that are out here.

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Speaker 9: I know we're collecting school supplies from our fans as

579
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Speaker 9: they're coming in.

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Speaker 8: We know how important it is.

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Speaker 9: That that young kids are staying in school and attending school,

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Speaker 9: and we know what school attendance can sometimes be tough.

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Speaker 9: So we're always encouraging the young men and women that

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Speaker 9: are here that know how important that part is.

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Speaker 8: So excited to be part of that. Another good day

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Speaker 8: out here.

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Speaker 9: Obviously it's beautiful, so we'll get some good work as

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Speaker 9: we go into Friday night versus the Commanders. We'll play

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Speaker 9: the majority of our starters in this game. Deshaun will

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Speaker 9: play this in this game, we'll see if it's one

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Speaker 9: two series, we'll kind of be playing that one by year,

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Speaker 9: and I think Coach Rivera will announced what his plan

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Speaker 9: is with his group. But it's always a good opportunity

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Speaker 9: to get guys through pregame warm ups onto the field,

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Speaker 9: get some of that game action in a setting like this,

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Speaker 9: and it's great for us to do it in front

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Speaker 9: of our fans. So we're excited to be down there

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Speaker 9: on the lake Friday night. Sound like it's me a

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Speaker 9: beautiful night. So with that, I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 10: When you go into a preseason game, on whatever game

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Speaker 10: it is, do you go with like certain set things

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Speaker 10: you want to accomplish with each specific game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think you gotta be really careful

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Speaker 9: because you're not game planning, so to tie it into

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Speaker 9: success can can be uh, can be a little bit difficult.

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Speaker 9: You really want to just be able to function and

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Speaker 9: and simplify it so people can play fast. Obviously they're

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Speaker 9: keeping score, so we want to win, uh, and we're

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Speaker 9: competitive in that regard. But when you're looking at from

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Speaker 9: an offense defense, special teams are we executing the things

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Speaker 9: that that we set out to do well.

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Speaker 10: I mean, are there things like we want to see,

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Speaker 10: we want to try this, we just want to.

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Speaker 8: See that without it well, I mean we did last week.

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Speaker 9: I told you guys, just with the screen game, we

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Speaker 9: wanted to get that going toss cracks. So there's always

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Speaker 9: different elements of of your install that you may want

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Speaker 9: to see and and and that's that's no different in

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Speaker 9: this game. There are certain things that we want to

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Speaker 9: get some game reps on. He's out this week, but

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Speaker 9: he's a he's weak to week Kenny.

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Speaker 11: When you say majority of the starter is Miles Chubb,

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Speaker 11: they play.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not gonna get into the specifics.

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Speaker 8: Everybody, if they're able, will be in uniform.

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Speaker 1: Kevin.

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Speaker 4: There seven week lead up to this regular season.

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Speaker 11: Just how challenging is it for you when you're determining

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Speaker 11: preseason how much you're gonna work, guys, because it's so

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Speaker 11: it just it feels like it's so unusual, right, I

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Speaker 11: mean that fourth preseason game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, not for us.

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Speaker 9: We kind of looked at it as that we had

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Speaker 9: that opportunity to have a few extra days and we

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Speaker 9: tried to use them to our advantage, and then right

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Speaker 9: now it feels very normal. I've told you guys before

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Speaker 9: we preseason game number zero with that Jets game where

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Speaker 9: we knew we're gonna play a lot of young guys,

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Speaker 9: great opportunity almost in a in a controlled scrimmage setting.

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Speaker 9: And now we really look at this as as we're

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Speaker 9: right where everybody else is with preseason.

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Speaker 8: Game number one.

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Speaker 12: Will him yes, Kevin, We've asked h to sean couple

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Speaker 12: of times, but in May June now here, if he's

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Speaker 12: shaken off the rust that we.

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Speaker 4: Know he had in the last what do you see?

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Speaker 8: What did what did he say?

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Speaker 4: He said, wait till uh the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: Game, And I'll stick with what he said.

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Speaker 9: I mean that's for him to honestly, Jeff to to say,

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Speaker 9: uh to answer, I would tell you very pleased with

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Speaker 9: where he is, uh right now?

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Speaker 8: In in these practices, you said something about, you know,

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Speaker 8: for Deshaun a series or two. Did you mean that

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Speaker 8: literally or do you or is that all you're really

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Speaker 8: thinking about?

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Speaker 9: Well, we kind of have a number of plays in mind,

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Speaker 9: but I want to see how those drives go.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 9: Similarly, defensively, I mean, you're you're if you get two

661
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Speaker 9: three anouncer and attempt to pull everybody. Uh so it's

662
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Speaker 9: really just dependent on the Uh how what if you're

663
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Speaker 9: getting what you want accomplished?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Any other quarterback play?

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Speaker 8: Yeh, all four will play.

667
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Speaker 10: Kevin, Are you concerned at all about adding more depth there?

668
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Speaker 10: You know with Alex and Isaiah, you know, undergoing surgery

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Speaker 10: now being out for some time, do you feel like,

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Speaker 10: do you feel good with where you're at at this

671
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Speaker 10: point in time or do you feel like there's.

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Speaker 4: Still needs to be more about it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I think, Uh, you know, we brought in a defensive

675
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 9: end a couple of days ago. I feel comfortable with

676
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Speaker 9: the group we have. As you guys know, it's a

677
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Speaker 9: constantly evolving as you get through practice and get through

678
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Speaker 9: games in terms of what you think you may need.

679
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Speaker 8: So that's that's something Andrew and his crew are working

680
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 8: through every day. You say, Ford is week to week

681
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 8: you have to miss it, could be ready for deal.

682
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Speaker 8: I think I think it's unfair to say yet. I mean,

683
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 8: I'm hopeful and I'm but I can't go past that.

684
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Speaker 8: And he's truly week to week. He's getting the treatment

685
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Speaker 8: right now.

686
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Speaker 4: Kevin.

687
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Speaker 11: We we saw jakeen back and team girls and returning

688
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Speaker 11: kicks on whatever the last practice was.

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Speaker 8: How did he come out from that? And are you

690
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Speaker 8: hoping that he can kind of re establish.

691
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Speaker 9: Himself as the returning Yeah, you know, we're very excited

692
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 9: about Jaquim to think all of us have seen him

693
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Speaker 9: over the course of his career, how explosive he can be.

694
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Speaker 8: He he looks healthy, He looks good.

695
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Speaker 9: It's a process when you talked about coming off of

696
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Speaker 9: those injuries, so we're trying to appropriately ramp him up.

697
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Speaker 14: But I think he looks good.

698
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Speaker 4: How did Drew the back injury for Drew?

699
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Speaker 10: How did that occur in what sort of the prognost

700
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Speaker 10: this short term month?

701
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, we'll see where that is in the

702
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Speaker 9: next few days. But uh yeah, very it was a

703
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Speaker 9: very random, kind of unlucky thing that happened there.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunate. Good. Okay, thanks you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 6: Coach Tefanski at the podium before the start of practice

707
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Speaker 6: here in just a couple of minutes, anything jump out

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Speaker 6: to you those.

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Speaker 2: I think that you know, we know the majority of

710
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: the stars will play it obviously would be nice fun

711
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Speaker 2: for all of us, you know, kind of exactly who

712
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: will and who won't. But Kevin's fantasy is still keeping

713
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Speaker 2: that close to the vest, and so we'll see again.

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Speaker 2: I think it's if when you say majority and not all,

715
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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty easy to say who won't be playing,

716
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Speaker 2: But he said it if they are, I do. I

717
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Speaker 2: think he wants everybody to go in pads, even if

718
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Speaker 2: they're not playing. Warm up, go through the whole thing,

719
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Speaker 2: come out, get ready, go out there, all of that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that certain people will play, or

721
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: maybe there will be. They'll get a play where they

722
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Speaker 2: are not involved in the play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't really need to see Miles. I don't need

725
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Speaker 6: to see Nick Chubb. I don't need to see Amari Cooper.

726
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 6: I don't need to see Denzel Ward. I don't need

727
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Speaker 6: to see I don't want to see this Joel.

728
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Speaker 4: None of that. I don't need to see it.

729
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: Look, it's not you want to pitch and catch it

730
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Speaker 6: a little bit with your receiver and his your quarterback

731
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Speaker 6: and his receivers. Fine, throw it around. Even Aaron Rodgers.

732
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers had a great line last night at the

733
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Speaker 6: end of Hard Knocks. I'll get into some of my

734
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Speaker 6: thoughts on Hard Knocks at a second. But at the

735
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Speaker 6: end of it he goes he's like kind of incredulous

736
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Speaker 6: at what happened at the end of the Jets Browns game,

737
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Speaker 6: and he's like yelling at the mic like preseason is

738
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Speaker 6: for passing, Like every play should be a pass.

739
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Speaker 4: Like that was his kind of view of what the preseason.

740
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Speaker 4: He didn't like that the Jets were run. He didn't

741
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Speaker 4: like to run. No, he just throw it. He gaus,

742
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: what are we doing? Just keep throwing it? What that's

743
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: the rest of this stuff is nonsense? It was.

744
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 6: It was interesting stuff. Some more reactions to what coach

745
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: had to say. We'll go around the league as well.

746
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Speaker 6: You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: your Cleveland Browns training camp. Practice about ready to start

752
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: here in the next oh fifteen minutes or so ze.

753
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Speaker 6: We have a padded practice again, which is kind of

754
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Speaker 6: as we had anticipated it would be. Last time we're

755
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Speaker 6: out here on Monday, that this schedule kind of worked

756
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Speaker 6: the way that we had thought, and that's where we're headed.

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Speaker 4: My friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, it's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: focus on anything other than these avocados from Peru.

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Speaker 4: Bo. Wow, they're just right here as little early.

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Speaker 6: So funny that you mentioned that the Browns, Avocados from

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Speaker 6: Peru and Meyer teaming up for the Ultimate Sweepstakes this

763
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Speaker 6: football season. One lucky fan will walk away with a

764
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Speaker 6: brand new electric pickup truck. Sweepstakes will open at Cleveland

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Speaker 6: Browns dot com slash Avocados from August ninth through the

766
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Speaker 6: sixteenth of October to fans to enter. During the first

767
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Speaker 6: two weeks of the sweep stakes, fan we encouraged to

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Speaker 6: participate in the Guak and Roll vote to choose the

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Speaker 6: official guacamole of the Cleveland Browns. The winning recipe will

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Speaker 6: be chosen on August twentieth. Will be available at select

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Speaker 6: locations inside Cleveland brown Stadium this season during the games

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Speaker 6: on the twenty fourth and the first of August October. Rather,

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Speaker 6: they'll be providing free guak with any purchase of Nacho's

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Speaker 6: at select locations at Cleveland Brown Stadium, So you're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Scout those out.

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00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: Three winners will randomly be selected to participate in a

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Speaker 6: half damn contest on November fifth, versus the Cardinals to

778
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 6: choose the grand prize winner. The second place winner receive

779
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Speaker 6: a VFP tour of the cross Country Mortgage Campus. Third

780
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Speaker 6: place winner receive a one thousand dollars Meyer gift card.

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Speaker 6: So winner winner guak dinner.

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Speaker 3: I want that Meyer gift card.

783
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Speaker 4: Huge bright truck.

784
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Speaker 3: I spend a lot of money at Meyer.

785
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Speaker 4: Well, it'd be good. I mean truck. You could set

786
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: the truck, could sell the truck and then get the

787
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: it's parked.

788
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Speaker 3: It's parked here during practice somewhere here today. But like

789
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Speaker 3: it's across the street.

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Speaker 4: Do we know what it is?

791
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Speaker 3: It's a bright orange truck. It's got it's in Brown's color.

792
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: Do we know the brand? Should even hesitate to even

793
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 5: say it out loud?

794
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

795
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Speaker 3: So it's electric, Okay, So it's a very nice looking truck.

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Speaker 3: We'll get one thousand dollars. Myer gift card also has

797
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: my tension.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're wet in your beak in some of

799
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Speaker 2: the there, So let me tell you right now. This

800
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Speaker 2: is the summer Guak. I'm a Guak purist. I like

801
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: my Guak pure. But this here has a little mango

802
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: in it, little halopenia, a little kohita chiese, some type

803
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: of us a seed as well.

804
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Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

805
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 6: It looks like a punkin seed to me maybe. But

806
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 6: what I'll tell you, I like it that they threw

807
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: the pumpkin. If it's a pumpkin seed, it looks like

808
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 6: pumpkin to me. I like that they threw that in

809
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: there because of what that's gonna gives you a little

810
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: bit of texture. Sometimes with Guak, I don't mind a

811
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Speaker 6: little texture in there. I don't want to get crazy.

812
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Speaker 2: I've eaten avocados from all over the world, and I'm

813
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: here to tell you I believe avocados from Peru maybe

814
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Speaker 2: the creamiest prep the most delightful avocados. I've ever had

815
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Speaker 2: a bold statement statement it's creamy. There's one over there

816
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: that one has killed boxes for you.

817
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: That's that they made. Just look like that's that's got

818
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Speaker 4: your name.

819
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Speaker 8: In it.

820
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Speaker 4: So there you go. Give me all right back to

821
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Speaker 4: my Yeah, it is very nice Guak. I love Guak.

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Speaker 4: You get a table side guak made of a little

823
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Speaker 4: mortar and pestle.

824
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Speaker 3: Also to have a really good chip.

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Speaker 5: It's times forgotten that the ship is the vessel has.

826
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Speaker 4: To be good. It's got to be a great vessel.

827
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Speaker 5: Every once in a while we'll try.

828
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Speaker 6: We'll be like, well, let's make you know because you

829
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Speaker 6: love a guak, you love a salsa, you love a

830
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Speaker 6: love all those things. Every once in a while i'll

831
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: get a uh, you know, they'll someone will try to

832
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Speaker 6: slip in some sort of an almond chip or something

833
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Speaker 6: for health purposes.

834
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Speaker 4: Eh.

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Speaker 6: If I'm making this decision, I'm making it with eyes

836
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Speaker 6: wide open. And by the way, you're going in there

837
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Speaker 6: with it, which is great for you eating salsa with it.

838
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Speaker 5: There, I'm getting in there.

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Speaker 4: My favorite sauce is usually have the same color as

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Speaker 4: your hoodie. Oh a nice orange, a little hob and arrow.

841
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, it feels like a win.

842
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 4: It it's always a win. Is a win. This quawkquack

843
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: is a win. It's lovely glok it is. And it's

844
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Speaker 4: from Peru.

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Speaker 8: Who knew?

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Speaker 4: And then who knew? Who knew? Hey, it's avocados from

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Speaker 4: a Yeah.

848
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so I watched twenty minutes of the Johnny

849
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Speaker 6: and then I'm like, Okay, I know what this is.

850
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Speaker 6: I don't need to see anymore this, so I flipped

851
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Speaker 6: it over to The Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 4: It's funny.

853
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Speaker 6: I heard a lot of people like complaining that it

854
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 6: was boring, and it just reminds me that that Twitter

855
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 6: just is or whatever it is x it's it's basically

856
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: just a place to complain like you had you weren't.

857
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 6: You had unfettered access and a ton of it to

858
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, Sauce Gardner, and Garrett Wilson. Those are the

859
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Speaker 6: three biggest stars the New York Jets have, and they

860
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Speaker 6: were miked entirely. There wasn't even anybody else that talked,

861
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Speaker 6: so it was it was those three for an hour.

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Speaker 6: Devin could juice was not broken ro back. He's fine,

863
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Speaker 6: But like dude, they weren't in it like it was.

864
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Speaker 6: It was all of the Rogers you'd want it was.

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Speaker 2: I heard it was like a very much as though

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Speaker 2: it was almost like it was a pro Rogers like

867
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Speaker 2: puff piece like that. It was almost it was almost

868
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Speaker 2: like scripted to be like the people couldn't possibly all

869
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Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers that much.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's just say that before we had Deshaun he

871
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 6: paratrooped in here coming off of the twenty twenty season.

872
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Speaker 6: If all of a sudden, we're sitting here at training

873
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Speaker 6: camp and that dude goes out there and if you

874
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Speaker 6: when you watch it, you'll see the throat.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's Aaron Rodgers, he's.

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Speaker 6: A four toimes, he's a walk and a can on

877
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: a first ballot and sleep off. And and so you're

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00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 6: telling me that everybody here wouldn't be funning. Can you

879
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: imagine the reaction? So, Like I saw some of that criticism,

880
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 6: I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, they haven't had

881
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 6: anybody like this ever. There's never been anybody with the.

882
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: Jets like this.

883
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: Namath wasn't this not this, no way, So yeah, they're

884
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 6: gonna be fawning sala Is. Sala has everything every other

885
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 6: box checked on that roster except for quarterback. They missed

886
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 6: on Wilson for now. But to credit to them and

887
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 6: to Wilson, like they're like, they're still talent here. Let's

888
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: let's hold on to this and rehabilitate this a little

889
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 6: bit and see if maybe this is still a long

890
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: term answer.

891
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson's very young, yes, very young Rogers.

892
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 6: By the way, Rodgers is tremendous with him, tremendous ust

893
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: be like, what the heck, what the heck?

894
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: Man?

895
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he is.

896
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 6: He's coaching him up. He's showing him what to do

897
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 6: on certain where, on certain reads where his eyes ought

898
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 6: to be. Just little stuff like how to take a

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 6: drop and how to like have variation on where to

900
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 6: see here, here to hear small short or long to short,

901
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 6: all of those things.

902
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, maybe really brought him some clarity.

903
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: Maybe this is what he was in Green Bay too.

904
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: For the players, you know, people who played with him,

905
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 6: I mean AJ loves him, loves him, AJ loves him.

906
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, other people I knew who played with him not

907
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 4: as much, didn't.

908
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. That's the only first hand I have.

909
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 6: But just from the standpoint of so anyway, you get

910
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 6: all of that, you get sauce all of it, and

911
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 6: then Garrett Wilson like, I don't know what what more

912
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: from it? Yeah, if the three biggest stars are all

913
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: dialed in, then that's it.

914
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Great handshakes too.

915
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I thought it was good.

916
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

917
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 6: Leev Shreiver showed up in a in a chopper. I

918
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 6: guess he's a Jets fan. He showed up in a

919
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 6: chopper and they had a lot of fun with that,

920
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 6: which was kind of fun.

921
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: No, I thought it was good.

922
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 6: I think we're just so used to complaining about things.

923
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 6: Oh my god, what do you want hard Knocks to be?

924
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 6: The other thing that's happened to that show is that

925
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 6: much like we have here, you know, in the old

926
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 6: days with Building the Browns and now with Unleashed, like,

927
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 6: you're getting so much behind the scenes, you get content

928
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 6: that it it's not as revolutionary as it was twenty

929
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 6: years ago, where it was kind of your only avenue

930
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: in and will say that media, for sure, and their

931
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 6: individual great pointed to you. I will say, though, even

932
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 6: in comparison to the teams stuff, they're getting a lot.

933
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 6: I mean they're putting the it's the opening talk from

934
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 6: Sala starts it. It's a lot of access to Rogers.

935
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 6: He's miked throughout. Same thing with Sauce and with with

936
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson. I thought that from their standpoint, if I'm

937
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 6: a Jets fan, or if I'm a fantasy owner of

938
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson in some sort of a dynasty league, or

939
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 6: some sort where you've hand over to your players.

940
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just going to yourself.

941
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, those two, those two are just dudes with capital

942
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 6: d's and they go against each other every day, and

943
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 6: so you they have like this dialogue between the two

944
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 6: of them where like Sauce is like Garrett's like how

945
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 6: did you get here on this?

946
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 4: Where did you have your hand?

947
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 6: There's this play between the two of them, this iron

948
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: sharp and iron thing that it's really cool.

949
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: It's awesome, and yeah, I think, look, there is so

950
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: much access to your point. Yeah, like when you think

951
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: about the original ones with the Ravens, like the idea

952
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: of being taken into an NFL locker room and getting

953
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: to see the players behind the scenes interact.

954
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: With each other that did not exist anywhere.

955
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: Now you get it after every game, You get it

956
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: before every game from most teams are doing it. So

957
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: it's just that it's not novel anymore. But I'm with you,

958
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm you got me excited to watch it if they're

959
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: gonna go in school, and I don't care any more

960
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: about the unsung and the stories unless there's like a

961
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: great story, you know, for example, if they did us

962
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: last year taking the media the OUF the field stuff

963
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: out of it. But if they did our Stars, and

964
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the Anthony Bell becomes a

965
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: little bit of a story and he's the first undrafted

966
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: ever make the fifty three. Like that's fine as a

967
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: small side story, but yeah, give me the Stars, take

968
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: me to the gym with Nick Chubb, take me.

969
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of these things.

970
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: And I think when you get that stuff, that's what

971
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: makes that show compelling, because even within the teams, they're

972
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: only gonna get you know, maybe Aaron Rodgers is playing

973
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: differently now or playing it differently now that he's in

974
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: New York, but you know, you're only gonna get so

975
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: much with the Stars. You have to be careful when

976
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: you make those asks over the course of a season

977
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: when you're working for the team, whereas hard knocks can

978
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: come in and they can get if they can get

979
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: those guys, and that's what every episode is is really

980
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: mostly on those guys.

981
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: That's gonna be awesome.

982
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it was cool.

983
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 6: A couple of notes around the league yesterday. You know,

984
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: we talked a little bit about Kareem being close with

985
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: the Saints. He's gonna visit with the Colts. So this

986
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: happens like we saw this with Odell where he took

987
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 6: a bunch of visits and eventually end up in Baltimore.

988
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: We saw it with DeAndre Hopkins as well.

989
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: So the interesting thing is though the Colts, before we

990
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: even set foot on the practice field for New Orleans,

991
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: offered him a contract and more money. They're like whatever

992
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: the Saints are.

993
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: This real is personal with Rsay, right with Jonathan Taylor

994
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 6: now where he's he's just gonna say, I'm not gonna

995
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: have it.

996
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he was advised to leave and not

997
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: sign anything and go visiting.

998
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so ersays.

999
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: Ersays made it personal with his running back, and that's

1000
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: how you get to that to that side of it.

1001
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 6: Baker is going to start Friday for the Bucks. Kyle

1002
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 6: Trask next week for them or or or I have.

1003
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: A question for you guys, because answer, I don't know

1004
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: if I'm heart, I don't know what we're wearing today,

1005
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: because some people look like they might be in pads,

1006
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: but a lot of people are in shorts, so maybe

1007
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: it's shells today, which would look from afar like pads.

1008
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: But like the quarterbacks aren't in their real pan. A

1009
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: lot of players are.

1010
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: In shorts and they're wearing like, yeah, got to be shells. Yeah,

1011
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: because you're some of the the problem was is some

1012
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 6: of those initial guys who came out, they were wearing

1013
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 6: brown shorts with like the Some people are still wearing

1014
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 6: the pants, yes are, but even they're wearing like like

1015
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: Thornhill's in the long like compression underneath.

1016
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 5: Yep, you know, so sometimes that looks a lot like

1017
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: the pants.

1018
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: That would make sense from a game standpoint. You know,

1019
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: your toughest practice of the week is a Thursday, so

1020
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: that would have been Monday. I pads in the rain.

1021
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: Today you're going shells and then rock through, which is

1022
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: like a Saturday. Yeah, Friday game. This is like a

1023
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: fast Friday.

1024
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1025
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: You see guys out here, like Denzel's got a helmet.

1026
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if Greg has a helmet, but Greg

1027
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: at least is getting to go through some drills with

1028
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: Brandon Lynch. So that's good to see because you'd love

1029
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: to have Greg available next week. I mean, you don't

1030
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: want to push anything or risk anything for the season,

1031
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: that's all that matters, but you'd love to have him

1032
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: next week be able to you know, go and get

1033
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: that work and put your defense as you see it

1034
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: out there on the field against those Eagles.

1035
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: All right, there we go.

1036
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 6: Now, Joe Hayden is up next. He is walking, he's

1037
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 6: got socks scrunched like he's ready to play corner.

1038
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 5: In an hour, so is his father. We'll get to

1039
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: all of that.

1040
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 4: Dad's ready to play like Mike Lindad. That's right, it's

1041
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 4: all coming up next to listen to Cleveland Brod's Daily

1042
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: on eight fifty esp in Cleveland.

1043
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming

1044
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1045
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1046
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1050
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: on set Pro Bowl corner, Joe Hayden stopping by, and

1051
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: we noticed as soon as I saw you coming around,

1052
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 6: I noticed the socks. Yes, there's a mentality to that scrunch,

1053
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 6: my friend.

1054
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 14: It's a mentality.

1055
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 10: Man.

1056
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 13: I learned this from Deon Sanders. He would always have

1057
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 13: his socks scrunched up. So every time I'm out on

1058
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 13: the football field and I see one on one going on,

1059
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 13: I got to strunch my socks.

1060
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: I just got to, you know.

1061
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 8: Now.

1062
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 6: So now there's a company that makes socks for scrunching,

1063
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: But that wasn't always the case.

1064
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 5: So how did you do it in the old day?

1065
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

1066
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 14: Man?

1067
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 13: So I would take this long Nike sock and this

1068
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 13: I'll have two params, so one would be very long

1069
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 13: like this, cut the heel off, cut the foot off

1070
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 13: so you don't have them all inside of your shoe.

1071
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 13: And then you just get the stacking them, stacking them.

1072
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 13: You can put this one right here so it can

1073
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 13: go all the way as high as you want to.

1074
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 13: Just keep cutting the socks, cutting the seat now, company,

1075
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 13: My parents would never let me cut those socks like that.

1076
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 13: That was only when I got to the league. So

1077
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 13: don't waste it. Don't please don't cut your socks, you know.

1078
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yes, you guys.

1079
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 14: When you had when I had equipment managers, that's when

1080
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 14: I started cutting. Unless you have a quipment.

1081
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 6: Manager, Nobody on those Florida teams lack swag, buddy. I

1082
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 6: know you did for sure, all right, we are. We're

1083
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 6: heading into preseason game number two on Friday night.

1084
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: Go ahead, before we get into something serious football related. Okay,

1085
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 4: your dad is okay?

1086
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: What for?

1087
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 11: What for?

1088
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 4: Going for sure?

1089
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 13: You know he was a professional bodybuilder, no doubt. And

1090
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 13: the dude he doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't curse. He's

1091
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 13: a pastor now, he's been a pastor for the last

1092
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 13: seven years. He's just he's the definition of being able

1093
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 13: to control. Like he he has so much control, he

1094
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 13: doesn't if he wants to stop doing something, he will,

1095
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 13: he'll do it. He works out four thirty every single day,

1096
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 13: I think twice a day. He just has a legitimate

1097
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 13: His work ethic is un believable, and I think that's

1098
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 13: why I learned. I learned discipline. That's what I mean,

1099
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 13: That's what I want to say. He's the most disciplined

1100
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 13: person I've ever met. He could just stop things like

1101
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 13: whatever he wants to do. So, I mean, he's he

1102
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 13: was the example of why I'm able to kind of

1103
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 13: do what I do.

1104
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: So do you think like maybe sometime in the next

1105
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: five years, decide I'm gonna go become like Arnold Schwartzeneg There.

1106
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 14: Is No, there's no possible way that I'm your jean

1107
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 14: it's in my jeans.

1108
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 13: I don't have that. I don't have that in me though.

1109
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 13: My dad, I don't know. He's a specimen. Like he's

1110
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 13: walking around. He's fifty four years old, walking around at

1111
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 13: three and a half four percent body fat.

1112
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1113
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's biceps or like anything I've

1114
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 5: ever seen.

1115
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: It's like they took it like cranium, but it's under

1116
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: his skin and they just flexes around me.

1117
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 14: Oh no, no, for sure, he's walking a walking dumbbell

1118
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 14: with the with the bodybuilding.

1119
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you could come out here, have him

1120
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: like you know, behind you, over the shoulder, and I

1121
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: feel like you could pretty much run your mouth to

1122
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: anybody you want.

1123
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 13: Oh for sure, for sure, definitely. I mean I'm not

1124
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 13: messing with my dad, that's for sure.

1125
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: No way Dad said this.

1126
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 14: Okayet for sure that's what you see me. I'm nice

1127
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 14: and disciplined. Yes, I did not the job. Did not

1128
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 14: want the long on with the law on me.

1129
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 7: What im?

1130
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: I just think of the role model that must have

1131
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 4: been for you of like it. This is the way

1132
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: the discipline of it all.

1133
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 14: Started he started. He started teaching me and my little brother.

1134
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 13: We started lifting weights in the seventh grade and doing

1135
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 13: the protein shakes and doing all of that stuff and

1136
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 13: bringing us out to the fields. He was just if

1137
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 13: you wanted it, he'll give it to you. And we

1138
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 13: wanted to be the best, and he just showed. Example,

1139
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 13: my dad had a forty five inch vertical. He could

1140
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 13: jump head he could, I promise you he had a

1141
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 13: forty five inch vertical. He would jump up. When I

1142
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 13: was kids, he'd jump and just tap his head on

1143
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 13: the rim like. He was the craziest athlete I've ever seen.

1144
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 13: So me and my brother always wanted to just work

1145
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 13: and train with him.

1146
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: Did he pays.

1147
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 13: He was a he ran track, but then he blew

1148
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 13: his squad out, so he went to Morgan. That's why

1149
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 13: he couldn't play running back. He was a running back.

1150
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 13: He ran track and then he turned his professional bodybuilder. Wow, yep, yep, yep.

1151
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: That's incredible. That is incredible. I could see it.

1152
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's got all yeah.

1153
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, he wins in every way. That's that is such

1154
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 6: a cool thing. You got a chance to watch practice

1155
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 6: on Monday in the rain, obviously, and then today obviously

1156
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 6: looks like we're in shells on full pads on Monday.

1157
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: What are some of your impressions of what you watched.

1158
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 13: I really like the way that Deshaun look comfortable. I

1159
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 13: like the way he made a lot of lot of

1160
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 13: good plasses in the red zone, was in control, throwing touchdowns,

1161
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 13: as are more more He's just been He's been one

1162
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 13: of the most impressive people I've seen since I've been

1163
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 13: out here, just with his way of he can change direction,

1164
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 13: his hands look supernatural, hands catching, not a body catcher,

1165
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 13: and just his different tempos of being able to start

1166
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 13: his releases. So he's been one of my guys. I'm

1167
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 13: watch now. I'm glad that Denzel's back out. I'm glad

1168
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 13: that I hope maybe new someone will be out here

1169
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 13: so I can see some of my dudes out there

1170
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 13: just competing against these white us and one on ones.

1171
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: So you mentioned Elijah Moore's ability to change direction and

1172
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: then the varying of the speeds that he uses as

1173
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: in his releases but also in his routes to create

1174
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: that separation. Why does that make it hard.

1175
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 13: For a cornerback because everybody, it's not like on paper

1176
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 13: you see a hitch route, it's just run up and stop.

1177
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 14: You see a slant route, it's a slant route.

1178
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 13: But the way that these dudes DeVante Adams, these dudes

1179
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 13: Tyreek Hill are changing tempos, changing sets and making different

1180
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 13: routes look like different routes, and it makes the game

1181
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 13: so much harder for the cornerback. So when you're changing tempos,

1182
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 13: you think and it's a stop and go.

1183
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 14: You just don't.

1184
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 13: And normally, when people are running rouse, you run it straight,

1185
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 13: you run, you're stopping. You're giving me a little bit

1186
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 13: of outside release to the slant. There's timing that's involved.

1187
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 13: But these dudes are running these routes with different tempos,

1188
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 13: different paces, and I think the quarterbacks and then we're

1189
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 13: working together with it so it all works. So it's

1190
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 13: just something that I haven't been too familiar with. But

1191
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 13: the stopping starts of other receivers are crazy.

1192
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: How much goes into through your position, the studying of

1193
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: the way guys run routes. Because Amari said something to

1194
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: me once and then Elijah said it to me the

1195
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: other day. I called it a C route, but he

1196
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: basically was in the red zone kind of the slant

1197
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: thing you pull it all the way back around to

1198
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: the corner, you know, And the first time he ran it,

1199
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: he was opened by like five yards, and then the

1200
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: second time he ran it, and I think our defense

1201
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: also knows some of our route combinations from certain looks

1202
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: and splits.

1203
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: But he ran it.

1204
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: And afterwards, I said, he said to me, He's like,

1205
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: I gotta learn. I gotta be able to run that

1206
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: route differently every time so they never know it's that route.

1207
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: So how much of that do you see? And is

1208
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: that what the great ones are able to do?

1209
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 8: That?

1210
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: Even when you watch their tape and you know how

1211
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: they like to set up certain routes that then all

1212
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden they make it look like they're doing

1213
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: the other one and then boom, you're like, wait, yeah,

1214
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: i'd study this.

1215
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: This is not what you do.

1216
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 13: It's the thing that it's the chess game where they

1217
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 13: know they're watching what we do, we're watching what they do.

1218
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 13: So if you're going into the game like this, the

1219
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 13: wabb been running it, you kind of gotta set it

1220
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 13: up because they're smart enough to know we ran it

1221
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 13: the first way. We're that much open outside release it,

1222
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 13: run the same route and then come back in. So oh, No,

1223
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 13: he never ran this on the outside release. Save that

1224
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 13: and then hit it on the outside release. Then you

1225
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 13: have both options. So it's kind of makes it harder

1226
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 13: for the dB to think like, oh, if he goes inside,

1227
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 13: then he can definitely be coming back. If he runs outside,

1228
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 13: I'm getting a dig, but he can run it back

1229
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 13: to you. So just them mixing it up and they

1230
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 13: were playing like a chess game with each other.

1231
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: I'm talking to the great Joe Hayden.

1232
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 6: You were talking about Elijah Moore and when I head

1233
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 6: coach on in June, he coached the guy you know

1234
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 6: and Percy Harvin very well. We were you know Percy

1235
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 6: pretty well, that Percy's another cat, like that's a whole

1236
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 6: different did But I will say that when I and coach,

1237
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 6: isn't won for emotion a lot on the interview side

1238
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 6: of things, pretty straight. But when I mentioned the way

1239
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 6: that you use Percy and Minnesota and do you see

1240
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 6: some similarities with Elijah, he lit up a little bit.

1241
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm not comparing the two, but.

1242
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 6: I'm just saying in terms of the style of things

1243
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 6: that you can do with them, does Elijah have those

1244
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 6: traits similar to person?

1245
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 13: I mean yes, with the when I was saying to

1246
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 13: stop and start when I'm saying the moving when you

1247
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 13: get the ball in their hands, kick return, pump return.

1248
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 13: You just want athletes like him to have the ball

1249
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 13: in the hands plus grass. So when he does that,

1250
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 13: you can be able to open up a lot of things.

1251
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 13: I would say, not as much in the running back.

1252
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 13: I wouldn't want to get him hit by the backers

1253
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 13: and stuff like that. But if you can get some

1254
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 13: mismatches where he's out an open space with those dudes,

1255
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 13: they're in trouble. So just not as much, like do

1256
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 13: the I wouldn't give him a lead like I might

1257
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 13: get personally. But I mean I'll do some tosses, some motions,

1258
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 13: some jets and things like that, just getting him the

1259
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 13: ball because he's gonna make people miss.

1260
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: When you're out here and you're watching this, he said,

1261
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: you're getting near the field. You got the scrunch socks on.

1262
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're almost ready to go out there. I

1263
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: know you don't miss training camp. What do What do

1264
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: you miss the most?

1265
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 13: I miss being around the dudes, man. I miss just

1266
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 13: the locker room. I miss everybody just kicking and having

1267
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 13: a certain goal. Like everybody right now on the Browns.

1268
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 13: Everybody thinks that we're going to be They're gonna be

1269
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 13: the team to win the super Bowl. Genuinely, like I

1270
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 13: think that nobody else. I'm just saying from my perspective.

1271
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 13: Every year I went out there, I felt like we

1272
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 13: were going to be the team to win the Super Bowl.

1273
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 14: And just seeing the.

1274
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 13: Dudes grow, being around them, working hard, trying to be better,

1275
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 13: trying to be the best, and then it just starts

1276
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 13: thinding out, thinning out. Now you're gonna have twenty of

1277
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 13: your DU's gonna get chopped, twenty more, you guys gonna

1278
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 13: get down. So then you see them when you have

1279
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 13: your fifty three, you know, just you know what time

1280
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 13: it is. It's time for I to try to go.

1281
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 13: Dudes on contracts, Dudes are coming in certain levels of

1282
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 13: their career. But just knowing everybody has a plan, everybody's

1283
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 13: a goal to win the Super Bowl, and that if

1284
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 13: we can do that, then everybody's goals and ambititions will

1285
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 13: be hit. Mister Ryan Clark from the Pivot, looking sweet,

1286
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 13: Fred Taylor, Fred Taylor, Gator, Gator.

1287
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 14: Great, you get still tote it right now. It still

1288
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 14: looks like he could go.

1289
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 6: He could go yeah, Joe, are you participating in the

1290
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: in the Florida doc? Did you participate in the Swamp Games?

1291
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 6: I passed, Man, I passed. I passed after me Percy

1292
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 6: a couple of my pouncs. But it's gonna be good.

1293
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: It's gonna be good. I just didn't.

1294
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 13: I just I would just let it be what it is. Yeah,

1295
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 13: it was a good old it was a good good

1296
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 13: old times. I lived it, you know, and uh, just

1297
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 13: I just don't like running back.

1298
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just curious because they're the

1299
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 6: Johnny Dock debut.

1300
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 14: Oh man, Yes, that's when we'll watch after this. Okay, yes,

1301
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 14: have you guys seen it?

1302
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: I watch.

1303
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 5: I watched for twenty minute. It's and I bailed.

1304
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: He's I hope you watch it while you're still here

1305
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: because I would love to talk to you about it.

1306
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 14: Okay, they go through.

1307
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought there's gonna be a ton on the

1308
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: brown side. It's like five minutes.

1309
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: And the big takeaway from the Brown Time is at

1310
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: one point that farmer called his agent and said, you know,

1311
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: we can basically we track how much time they're spending

1312
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: watching films. Watched zero point zero hours. That backs up yep,

1313
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: zero point zero and then john.

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't want to be the one to say,

1315
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 14: but you know, don't think Johnny was too much of that.

1316
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: No, no, So he watched the Browns. I'm curious, see

1317
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: what you think of it.

1318
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: But the Browns part is it's small, and it's it's

1319
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: it's it's sad, honestly for you know, basically what he

1320
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: said is, you know, I made it, my dreams made

1321
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1322
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: And then I just was like, I don't even like football.

1323
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: I don't like being here. I don't like any of it.

1324
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 4: So said from that standpoint, But yeah, I'm curious what

1325
00:59:59,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: you're thought.

1326
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, for surem but definitely definitely watch that.

1327
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 6: I'll get you out of here on this one having

1328
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 6: a chance to ask you the ship. But I know

1329
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 6: that you know, DB's you come in, You're gonna find

1330
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 6: your guys. You're gonna find Denzel, you tru see Emerson,

1331
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 6: you can go see Greg.

1332
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: You want to talk to those guys.

1333
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 6: The biggest difference obviously defensively, and we'll get a better

1334
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: feel for this preseason, but it was, honestly, it was noticeable.

1335
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Speaker 6: In the Hall of Fame game is like these corners

1336
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 6: they're gonna be man up And as a guy who

1337
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 6: was out there on that island, what does that mean?

1338
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 6: And do you see the enthusiasm with those guys that

1339
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 6: I mentioned that that's the way they're gonna go about

1340
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 6: their business.

1341
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 14: Hey, this is the thing.

1342
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 13: If you're if you if that's the way that you

1343
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 13: have to play, you're gonna be a press team. You're

1344
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 13: gonna be guys that get up and do his faces

1345
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 13: and disrupt. That's It takes a certain type of corner.

1346
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 13: It takes dudes that really believe that they feel like

1347
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 13: they can be the number one corner on the team.

1348
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 13: Because the game is set up for you to get beat.

1349
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 13: The game is set up not for the corners to

1350
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 13: literally take away a receiver anymore. You can't touch them

1351
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 13: off the line, you can't grab them at the five

1352
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 13: low pooll, no, nothing. But having the young having that

1353
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 13: mindset I think of the up r DB's and having

1354
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 13: the ability to be able to you know, sometimes you're

1355
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 13: gonna get hit, sometimes you're gonna lose these matchups, but

1356
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 13: it has to be a defensive stance where Miles Garrett

1357
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 13: the defensive line. No, if you're putting you in this

1358
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 13: position to be single high coverage man up. That means

1359
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 13: it's another man that's gonna be able to get to

1360
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 13: the quarterback. So let's not be oh, we have five

1361
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 13: seconds to get there. No, we have three seconds to

1362
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 13: get there because on the back end, we got our

1363
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 13: dudes that are fighting for their lives. You know what

1364
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 13: I'm saying. Basically, one on one with these dudes with

1365
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 13: you can't really touch them. So I think they have

1366
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 13: to have the mindset that we're lockdown corners. This is

1367
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 13: what we do because they have the ability to do it.

1368
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 13: But at the same time, you need to have your

1369
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 13: defensive line and linebackers understanding when they put you in

1370
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 13: this position, let somebody get home.

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Speaker 14: Let's let's let's let's do this together.

1372
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a story about the guy

1373
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: wearing twenty three that I think that you'll like, kind

1374
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: of to this mindset that mentality talked about. So he's following,

1375
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: obviously trying to follow in your footsteps to be another

1376
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl corner for the Browns wear number twenty three

1377
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Game five, you remember that's against the Chargers.

1378
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: Mike Williams is having it.

1379
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 7: He's having a very good day and MJ is a

1380
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: rookie and it's fifty was like, I've seen enough. I

1381
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 7: got eighty one. Period, like just stut up. Set it

1382
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 7: to the coaches, set it to the guys. I got

1383
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: Eddie one, the rest away locked him down. There was

1384
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 7: a fourth down at the end of the game, one

1385
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 7: on one, they went to him. He got the PBu

1386
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 7: we got the ball back, the chance to win the game.

1387
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 7: But when a rookie comes in and does something like that,

1388
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 7: number one is a veteran or you're kind of like okay, yes,

1389
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 7: and then they go back it up say like no, no,

1390
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 7: I got eighty one.

1391
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Speaker 4: We're good.

1392
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 14: No for sure.

1393
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 13: I mean talk is cheap, you know what I'm saying.

1394
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 13: I love him for one to step up in that moment.

1395
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 13: And that's what it takes. If you want to be

1396
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 13: great and you want to be that guy, you have

1397
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 13: to be in positions of uncomfortable that people nobody really

1398
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 13: thinks you're gonna win, but you know in your heart

1399
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 13: like I got this, or if you do lose it,

1400
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 13: knowing being able to be mad enough to know, all right,

1401
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 13: next one, I got it, Like short term memory a corner,

1402
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 13: You're not gonna win all of them, but just know

1403
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 13: like the next one's mine, you know what I'm saying,

1404
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 13: Having that confidence to get back out there, because it's

1405
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 13: a tough spot to be in out there on that

1406
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 13: island with these dudes. They're not playing, They're not playing around.

1407
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 13: Moore's not playing Amari Cooper by yourself? Are you kidding me?

1408
01:02:59,720 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 11: So?

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 13: Just press what having that and having that in your

1410
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 13: mental you gotta be a little messed up in the head.

1411
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 5: Gotta be always good talking to you buddy for sure.

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

1413
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 6: It's a great Joe Hayden joining us here in studio

1414
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 6: out here at the practice fields in Brea. Deshaun Watson

1415
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 6: spoke earlier today. We'll have that for you coming up next.

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Speaker 6: to the podium to Shaun Watson speaking with the media.

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Speaker 3: What's a key plant for you on Friday?

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 15: How much you're gonna play.

1425
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 16: I'm not even sure. I just know I'm starting it

1426
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 16: off and we'll see how you know. The biggest thing

1427
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 16: is really just getting the operational the field of the

1428
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 16: you know, pre game and and starting off the game

1429
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 16: and just kind of getting myself back in and routine.

1430
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: Uh, get ready for the season.

1431
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 15: How m How important are these reps just to kind of,

1432
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 15: like you said, get yourself going.

1433
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 4: Uh, it's everything. You just gotta get that routine again.

1434
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 16: You know, you just gotta start fresh, get back to

1435
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 16: the basis of how you get yourself prepared for the

1436
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 16: game mentally, physically, and uh, just really just operational for

1437
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 16: the team so we can go out there and be

1438
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 16: sharp in the.

1439
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 13: Rain the right zone the other day.

1440
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 5: Is that your best practice your.

1441
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 8: H I mean.

1442
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 16: Could be, but I feel like every day is uh

1443
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 16: is a learning lesson for myself. Uh, regardless if it

1444
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 16: was good, if it wasn't good. You know, I always

1445
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 16: try to look and go into film, you know, with

1446
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 16: the mindset that you know everything is not always great

1447
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 16: and every everything is not always bad. It's always right

1448
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 16: in the middle. So you know, there was a lot

1449
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 16: of success on the field that we had the other

1450
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 16: day in the rain, but also there was some you know,

1451
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 16: little small things that we gotta clean up too, because.

1452
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 11: There's such a long way to go to the picular

1453
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 11: season opener here. Just how much preseason work do you

1454
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 11: feel that you need so that you're ready September tenth.

1455
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1456
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 16: I'm not even sureff really honestly, Uh, I think the

1457
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 16: biggest thing is really ash Each and every day's the

1458
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 16: opportunity for myself to get myself ready for September tenth.

1459
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 16: So practices, meetings, walk throughs, preseason games, whatever, you know,

1460
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 16: Coach Defanskin and and the staff on me and and

1461
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 16: the other guys to do. We're gonna be able to

1462
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 16: go out there and and try to operate and be

1463
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 16: sharpen and be safe as possible so we can get

1464
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 16: ready for September tenth.

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01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 6: In the purpose world, how much would you like to

1466
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: play on Friday night or six year?

1467
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: Ah, it doesn't even matter to me. I'm a competitor.

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 16: So however, however long he wanted us to play, i'm'a

1469
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 16: go out there and compete for that that length of time.

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01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 4: And uh, let me see what happened. It's been a

1471
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 4: long time since fans I've seen you playing a game.

1472
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 8: What should they expect day?

1473
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 16: Religious don't expect anything, really, I mean the biggest thing

1474
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 16: is just really go out there with the open mind,

1475
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 16: so you know, like I said, it's it's still very

1476
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 16: basic and on what we will show, what we won't show,

1477
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 16: and we just the biggest thing is just operational and

1478
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 16: just going out there and could pee and just kind

1479
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 16: of get ourselves ready.

1480
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 4: For that that September ten. Yeah, and that's just that.

1481
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 16: It's same thing, like I said, just operational, just going

1482
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 16: out there to be sharp with them, and you really

1483
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 16: just take charge of offense.

1484
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 17: It's like pictures going to spring training and the other

1485
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 17: they often like look to work on something? Are you

1486
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 17: looking to work on something when you go out there

1487
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 17: on Friday specifically that you know would maybe maybe you've

1488
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 17: been tinkering with uh this offseason preseason.

1489
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1490
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 16: Just continue to just build a command out of this

1491
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 16: offense and operational and just really just taking charge of

1492
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 16: what we need to do to you know, have that

1493
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 16: success each and every player.

1494
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 8: You've lost a couple of receivers this training cant of

1495
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 8: your game. One number eighty.

1496
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 14: What do you think it's doing You said number eight,

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01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 14: which one eighty.

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, Watkins.

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 14: Uh, he's definitely the guy. You know, he played in

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 14: the I Wanna I can't remember, the the us FL Yeah.

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 16: Uh so that was that was cool to be able

1502
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 16: to watch some of his tape and and then have

1503
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 16: him come in and help his team.

1504
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 4: You know, he played good in the Hall of Fame game.

1505
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 16: He just got into town I think the last week

1506
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 16: or last couple of days of Greenbrier, so you know,

1507
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 16: he had to learn fast. But for him to be

1508
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 16: able to come out and be you know, productive for

1509
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 16: this team in his offense, he's definitely been great. So

1510
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 16: he's gonna keep going and he ask a lot of

1511
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 16: questions and he he's a guy that wants to learn

1512
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 16: and uh try to help the scene.

1513
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Speaker 4: We see Eliza more everywhere.

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Speaker 11: It's seems like there isn't anything he can't do. Just

1515
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 11: from your perspective, what type of an impact and weapon

1516
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 11: for Uh, how is he and do you invision within

1517
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 11: this offense?

1518
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's a big impact. You know, he

1519
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: can do it all.

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Speaker 14: It's very versatile.

1521
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Speaker 16: He can outside inside whatever we ask him to do,

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 16: he can he can do whatever he he and he

1523
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 16: goes full speed then never complains. He just try to

1524
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 16: be perfect and whatever he can do to you know,

1525
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 16: be productive for this offense and his team and for himself. So, uh,

1526
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 16: he's definitely gonna have this offense and it's gonna be

1527
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 16: great for us to sell.

1528
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 11: And you mentioned getting rapers of Filip Kens or if

1529
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 11: you had much time to start looking at all at

1530
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 11: Cincinnati and it was pretty early.

1531
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 16: Uh yeah, I mean we I just kind of look

1532
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 16: all over the the whole league. Right now, we're just

1533
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 16: focusing on you know, the Cleveland Browns. Uh of course,

1534
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 16: you know, you skim a little bit on Cincinnati and

1535
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 16: and what they're doing, and you know, try to watch

1536
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 16: the last previous games that we played against them and

1537
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 16: uh their scheme and things like that.

1538
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 4: But you know, the first game, it's kind of hard.

1539
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 16: You just how to take the base of what that

1540
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 16: defensive coordinator usually you know, come out with the first

1541
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 16: game and then you try to just you know, the

1542
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 16: first the first half and so and then go from there.

1543
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 15: Does that debut last year in Jacksonville feel like a

1544
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 15: long time agos?

1545
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 8: Uh?

1546
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a blur, to.

1547
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 15: Be honest, Hey, Uh so it's a challenge for you

1548
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 15: to kind of hit the ground running. Last year, talked

1549
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 15: about knocking off all that Russ and what have you.

1550
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 15: In those six games that you played, when you back,

1551
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 15: when you went back and reviewed those what what stood

1552
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 15: out to you that you wish it gone differently, that

1553
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 15: you could have done better than.

1554
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 4: Nothing?

1555
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 16: I mean, honestly, it it went the wed it's gonna

1556
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 16: go and then it should have went, you know, and uh,

1557
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 16: you know went three and three. There was some opportunities

1558
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 16: that overall, not just myself but the whole team we

1559
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 16: missed out on a lot of guys banged up. But

1560
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 16: you know, we just take it in and move forward

1561
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 16: and uh course of it all season you learn from it.

1562
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 16: But once you know spring ball and training camp starts,

1563
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 16: you kind of put twenty two, twenty twenty two behind

1564
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 16: us and focus on the new year. So there's so

1565
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 16: much potential opportunities for us and myself and uh, we

1566
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 16: wanna take advantage of it.

1567
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 4: Did y'all?

1568
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 8: Have you ever practiced against the defense?

1569
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: Just good from front to back and and how much

1570
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 4: are they helping you.

1571
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 11: Get ready for the season?

1572
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1573
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, this defense is very intense, very sharp, very skilled,

1574
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 16: UH coach, very well, very disciplined, UH from the DB's

1575
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 16: who's playing very very tight coverage on the receivers. So

1576
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 16: there's gotta be you know, tight type you know, throws

1577
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 16: in in inside the you know windows. You got the

1578
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 16: linebackers that's smart, uh with a walk and j Oka

1579
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 16: and and Jordan and you know all the other guys.

1580
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 16: And you got the front that's very aggressive and very

1581
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 16: fast and strong and big. So you know, it's putting

1582
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 16: us the tests and it's gonna help us for the

1583
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 16: long run. So it's glad to be able to go

1584
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 16: back and forth and compete, and we wanna do the

1585
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 16: same for them too. Do you feel like practice do

1586
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 16: you look at Monday's practice in the in the red

1587
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 16: zone in particularly, is a breakthrough or just a good

1588
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 16: day for.

1589
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 4: One of 'em?

1590
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's just a but it's a good day. I

1591
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 16: mean it's you just gotta stack dage. You can't think

1592
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 16: you have it all and you never have it all.

1593
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 16: So that's the mentality we have, is we always trying

1594
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 16: to get better, regardless if we win a hundred percent

1595
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 16: and every drill period, you know, we we can't get

1596
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 16: ourselves too comfortable we gotta continue to go because every period,

1597
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 16: every drive, every play is a new place. So we

1598
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 16: just gotta make sure we focused on that play, be

1599
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 16: still in the moment, and uh move forward from there.

1600
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 11: Do you feel like there's any bus left from that

1601
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 11: long layoff or at the at this point?

1602
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: Is that all gone out? Uh?

1603
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 14: I have I have no idea.

1604
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 16: Like I said, it's just really once we get out

1605
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 16: there and play, we'll see what happened and and go

1606
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 16: from there.

1607
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 13: You're gonna play in this game given the fact that

1608
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 13: you guys have the joint practices coming up against the Eels.

1609
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 9: Would was there thought that just.

1610
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: Like what do you use?

1611
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: Did this one happen?

1612
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 8: Uh?

1613
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not even sure.

1614
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, we came in this week and you know, we

1615
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 16: just he listed off how the time kind of plays

1616
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 16: was gonna go? Uh who was gonna start the game off?

1617
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 16: And my name was called? So I was ready to go.

1618
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 16: So I'm not sure what kind of debate or taught

1619
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 16: they had upstairs?

1620
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 4: Did de Sean?

1621
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 12: Was it was an adjustment for the offensive line getting

1622
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 12: used to you because.

1623
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 8: You extend plays as well as you do.

1624
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 12: How have you seen that improve during training camp here?

1625
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 7: Uh?

1626
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 8: It's been great.

1627
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 13: You know.

1628
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 16: I just try to just play off them, you know,

1629
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 16: and you know, i'd let the guys know that, you know,

1630
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 16: I'm just gonna you know, you block your assignment and

1631
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 16: I'm gonna do you know, I just make you're right,

1632
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 16: and you know, sometimes the defense get it.

1633
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes we don't. That's part of the game. That's part

1634
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 4: of football.

1635
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 16: But you know, we've been able to adjust to each

1636
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 16: other and they know exactly when was set up and

1637
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 16: how I'm going to react in certain situations. So it's

1638
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 16: been good for us.

1639
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 5: All right. He will be on the broadcast on Friday.

1640
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,840
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1654
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Speaker 4: He's Chris Rose. Conversation is, no, it's great to be back.

1655
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: How are you guys. We're good. Yeah, we're good. Yeah,

1656
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: how are you doing?

1657
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 7: I am loving it. I was out here on Monday.

1658
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 7: Of course I saw you guys in between rain drops.

1659
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 7: It's like the first big rain you guys had, and

1660
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 7: I brought it. Well, thank you, Yeah, you're well. Well

1661
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 7: you're welcome, yues I get Let's get to Friday, shall we? Yes, please,

1662
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 7: let's get the Friday. You're gonna get some ones in there.

1663
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 4: But I know, I know that was very exciting.

1664
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 7: We had our meeting with the players today and coach

1665
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 7: Stefanski and uh, you know, he said we're gonna play

1666
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 7: most of the ones a little bit.

1667
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 4: I was like, Yes, that's fun. That's fun.

1668
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 7: I don't know how long that's gonna last, but it's

1669
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 7: good for them to get out there, knock a little

1670
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 7: bit of the rust off, do their thing. I hope

1671
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 7: that Washington's ones play, certainly on defense, because that is

1672
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 7: a really really good unit, very good defensive line. They've

1673
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 7: kind of revamped that secondary over the last few years,

1674
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 7: so it'll be that it'll be fun to just get

1675
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 7: back out there seem in person.

1676
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, see this team, and you know you're going to

1677
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: get to go back up into the booth with the

1678
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: great hof Joe Thomas, and now it has We've been

1679
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: calling him for years, that is now official. What do

1680
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: you think about Joe and the whole weekend, the festivities,

1681
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: well in the booth with a true Hall of Famer

1682
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: even though it was a foe Gun work.

1683
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 7: So apparently apparently once you become a Hall of Famer,

1684
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 7: then the party just continues for days on end. Because

1685
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 7: Joe could not make it today he had another prior engagement. Uh,

1686
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 7: he felt terribly about it, and we're all like really,

1687
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 7: and even Stefanski was getting after him a little bit, like, Okay,

1688
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 7: this whole Hall of Fame thing is really Yeah, it's

1689
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 7: amazing because you know, we all have gotten to know

1690
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,919
Speaker 7: him pretty well just away from the field, and everybody

1691
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 7: says the same exact thing about the dude, Like when

1692
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 7: we were saying during a commercial break that the story

1693
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 7: checks out with him, the story checks out in the

1694
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 7: most positive way. Yes, and Unfortunately I had another work

1695
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 7: comment and could not be in campon last week, which

1696
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 7: I was really bummed about. And so I talked to

1697
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 7: him a couple of times, and he called me literally

1698
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 7: like an hour before he had to do something right

1699
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 7: on Saturday. Yeah, and I was like, you do not, like,

1700
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 7: let's go, let's let's focus here. Yeah, And we just

1701
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 7: wanted to share a few words. And I just he

1702
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 7: makes everybody else feel good. No, like we all knew

1703
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 7: he was going to play offensive line, probably from the

1704
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 7: time he was six, just because that's how his personality fits, right,

1705
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 7: Like if you could pick one position in sport for him,

1706
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 7: it'd be left tackle. Like that's who I want to be.

1707
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 7: I want to help everybody else. I don't care about

1708
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 7: what they say about me, but people who said a

1709
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 7: lot of special things about him, so it's all true.

1710
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I thought I thought the week was I mean,

1711
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 6: just like with everything with him, Like you know, you're

1712
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 6: giving him the business about missing the thing, but like

1713
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 6: his preparedness is outrageous, so on anything that he does, coffee, wine, whiskey, anything,

1714
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 6: like it's all in So and that I thought the

1715
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 6: week mirrored that. I mean, everything was so well it

1716
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 6: was so perfectly thought out and done and fit him authentically,

1717
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 6: which is hard to do.

1718
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 5: I said, you was curated on Monday. I think that

1719
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 5: it really was.

1720
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 7: It was all done, It all had the right tone,

1721
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 7: and I loved all just reading all the stories and

1722
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 7: seeing all the pieces that were streamed online about him,

1723
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 7: Like I was brought to tears by at least like

1724
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 7: five or six things. Yeah, and come on not again,

1725
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 7: you know, like you just tear up a little bit

1726
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 7: about everything. And I loved what Annie and the kids

1727
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 7: did for him, presenting him. It was just special.

1728
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 4: That's what he wanted totally, you know. I mean it's

1729
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 4: just again, just another thing.

1730
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 5: Ye you will you demand the gold jacket in the booth?

1731
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: Has there been talk of that?

1732
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 7: Well, it's not my place to tell him, but Joe,

1733
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 7: if you're listening, you damn a little better pack that thing.

1734
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, right right, I think you have to,

1735
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: right right.

1736
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 7: We were even contemplating changing our colors I think for

1737
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 7: the game, just in honor, right, a little bit more gold.

1738
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just going for it.

1739
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 7: Maybe for a driver to it's like the starters, I know,

1740
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 7: maybe wear it for you know, I like that as

1741
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 7: long as the starters playing wear your gold jacket and

1742
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 7: then casual then we move on the next thing.

1743
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1744
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean we've already talked about it. We put

1745
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: one request and we want to drink martinis with Grandma

1746
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: Martinis and the old Jackets.

1747
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 4: Right, that's it.

1748
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: That's a small seems reasonable, but it feels possible because

1749
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: if Grandma Martinis is there, there will be martinis.

1750
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1751
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 4: So, like we just all have to get to the

1752
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 4: same place. We just have to get to Wisconsin. I

1753
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: think that's the thing we need to take this show

1754
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 4: on the road to Wisconsin's not afraid bye week. That's

1755
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: what needs to go. That's what bye weeks are for.

1756
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 7: And by the way, if you know so early this season,

1757
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 7: after week four, yeah, that it's perfect time to get

1758
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 7: up to Wisconsin. Like if your bye week is late November,

1759
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 7: I'm good. We'll figure out the other time.

1760
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 4: The gold jacket is that a Whistling Straights double? Oh boy?

1761
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 5: Maybe a little?

1762
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 4: What would you shoot at Whistling Straights? He'd shoot sixty eight?

1763
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 7: Mom?

1764
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: What would you shoot like the way they set up

1765
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 2: for the tour, No, the way set I'd like to

1766
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: think I could shoot in the seventies out.

1767
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 4: There okay solid, Yeah, really good. Yeah, there's no question

1768
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 4: you would.

1769
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the tour set up, I would be like,

1770
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: I think breaking eighty would be a major accomplishment.

1771
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 7: So our oldest son, who's almost twenty three, he just

1772
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 7: really started getting into golf over the last couple of months.

1773
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 7: He has been bitten by the bug. He's out in

1774
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 7: San Diego, he's playing with some buddies today and he, uh,

1775
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 7: you know, he texts me like he's in the low hundreds.

1776
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 7: That's where he is. He's literally like just getting going.

1777
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 7: Oh and then he finally broke a hundred recently and

1778
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 7: he was so excited. So I texted him back. I said,

1779
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 7: is this like a real ninety whatever it was or

1780
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 7: He's like, what do you mean real? I was like, well,

1781
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 7: it is golf, so you know, we're talking breakfast balls.

1782
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 7: Gimme putts, Like, couldn't quite find it, but I think

1783
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 7: I know where it is sort of stuff. You know,

1784
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 7: I like, you you have a number in mind, like, well,

1785
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 7: I've hit the all pretty well, but you know, maybe

1786
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 7: I really didn't lose that ball in sixteen sort of deal. Sure,

1787
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 7: So I'm still trying to figure out exactly if it

1788
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 7: was what Yeah.

1789
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 14: I like that.

1790
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 2: It was a real well, there are there are different

1791
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: different ways in golf. Gimme putts now, and if he's

1792
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: playing in a you know, a team competition or match play,

1793
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: you can have all.

1794
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 4: Once they give it to you. What can you do?

1795
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: You gotta take it, You gotta take it. I like

1796
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: that though.

1797
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna be bitten bite, and he's gonna when he

1798
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: briks ninety, he's gonna go nuts.

1799
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 8: I know.

1800
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 7: Well, and he also lives in San Diego, right, you know,

1801
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 7: by this time next year he could be seventy nine,

1802
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 7: who knows playing every day, which is terrible news for us,

1803
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 7: as my wife is sitting here, because it really will

1804
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 7: mean he hasn't found a new job.

1805
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 4: He has golf. Yeah, he's found it.

1806
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm working hard at that is the reverse of

1807
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 6: a job, Rand Ambassador, still have to pay.

1808
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 8: You can do that.

1809
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 6: You've been out here a couple of times now, Bud,

1810
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 6: What what do you just the look of this group

1811
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 6: compared to a year ago?

1812
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: What jumps out that defensive line? Yeah, it's simple.

1813
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 7: I think we were hoping and praying the last two

1814
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 7: years about it, and they did something about it to

1815
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 7: their credit. What they had was not working, and you

1816
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 7: can't be thirtieth or thirty second when we're talking about

1817
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 7: PFF grades on the interior defensive line and get to

1818
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 7: where they want to go right. So they have done

1819
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 7: some serious work. The Zadarius Smith trade was enormous for them.

1820
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 7: For Miles to have the year that he had when

1821
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 7: nobody else had more than three sacks on that team

1822
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 7: is unreal. It's just yeah, we just take him for

1823
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 7: granted because he is such an athletic freak. We're like, oh, yeah,

1824
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 7: you got sixteen sacks. You know, dude missed a couple

1825
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 7: of games too, like just repeat what you said and

1826
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 7: with just not enough help. Pretty unreal. So I'm looking

1827
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 7: forward to that. I think our secondary is really really good.

1828
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 7: Love our corners. I think the additions we made it

1829
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 7: safety or are big time yep. But we all know

1830
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 7: where it comes down to and it's all about number four.

1831
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 7: And it was interesting. So when we talked to to

1832
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 7: Kevin today, I said, uh, listen, you want to see

1833
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 7: improvement out all your players. But to the basic Browns fan,

1834
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 7: they're thinking, we can only go as far as number

1835
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 7: four takes us. How important is it that he gets

1836
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 7: back to his twenty twenty four and he stopped me.

1837
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 7: He's like, I don't want to see that. I want

1838
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 7: to see the twenty twenty three version of Deshaun Watson.

1839
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 7: And we think that that version is even better than

1840
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 7: what he was. I was like, okay, I'm sold. We

1841
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 7: just all need to we need to see it now.

1842
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: We need to see it to quote there the show

1843
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: me state Missouri. Yeah, that's what this whole team is though,

1844
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: right right when games matter, that's it. Everything's on paper.

1845
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: We talked about this last week. I'm curious if this,

1846
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we get this all the time. I'm sure

1847
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: you get it from your Browns fans. How do they

1848
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: look in how they looking?

1849
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 14: Right?

1850
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 6: But it's almost like they know how they want you to.

1851
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 6: They already know the answer in their mind, right, And

1852
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 6: so I'll say, be honest, they look great. I mean

1853
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 6: they Nick Chubb looks incredible, Miles looks incredible, all this

1854
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, same old all right, blah blah. It's like, well,

1855
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 6: what if you want me to tell you what I think?

1856
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 6: This is what I'm saying, Like, Elijah Moore looks great, yeah,

1857
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 6: so Sean looks great.

1858
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 4: Yes, these this is a very compalented team.

1859
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 6: But because and some of it, I do wonder is

1860
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 6: for a lot of years, was there false hope that

1861
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 6: was spun that made people think teams were better than

1862
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 6: they were.

1863
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just trying to come to it

1864
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 4: because I get the question all the time. I'm sure

1865
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 4: you do too. How do you answer that question false hope?

1866
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 7: That's a that's a dangerous topic, right, We've all felt

1867
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 7: like in twenty nineteen, we were like, man, did you

1868
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 7: see what we did when we finished seven eight and

1869
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 7: one at the end of twenty eighteen set the record? Yeah,

1870
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 7: and you know at that Baltimore game to finish it off,

1871
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 7: we were like, holy smokes, like this is this is

1872
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 7: hitting a crescendo, like we're in the right territory. And

1873
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 7: then we all just got slammed, body slammed, you know, like, well,

1874
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 7: we were the cover of Sports Illustrated.

1875
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: It was.

1876
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 4: That's correct, that's correct.

1877
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 7: I remember exactly where I was when we traded for Odell,

1878
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 7: Like I was at our youngest son's baseball game, and

1879
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 7: people were like, we think you just got Odell. I'm like,

1880
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 7: what checking Twitter? I'm like, and you just felt different.

1881
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 7: We did a podcast that night on rhone, the podcast

1882
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 7: on our phones, and it was the number one.

1883
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 4: It was the number for a time. It was a

1884
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 4: number one sports podcast in the world. Wow. Period.

1885
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, that was how that's how little to do

1886
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 7: with the topic and everything. Just want to know, but

1887
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 7: we haven't ever gotten back there.

1888
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 6: It's odd to duplicate right exact but even this, even

1889
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 6: what what you referenced, this version of the Browns starting

1890
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 6: with eighteen on through, that's very different than two thousand

1891
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 6: and two to twenty seventeen. Oh yes, it is, right,

1892
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 6: But so that the false hope I'm talking about even

1893
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 6: more so, more so than even eighteen, nineteen twenty whatever

1894
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 6: I'm talking about, there was fifteen years of like people

1895
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 6: thinking maybe these teams were better than they were and

1896
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 6: and maybe that's just the optimism that you want. And

1897
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 6: so they're like snake bit by that. So when I say, like, boy,

1898
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 6: they look great, they're like, oh yeah yeah. And I'm like, oh,

1899
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 6: trust me, this is not fourteen. It's not fifteen. Like

1900
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 6: they've got dudes here they do. There's no question.

1901
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 7: I have always said that Cleveland sports fans are ninety

1902
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 7: percent Scar tissue. Yes, it's just it's it's really tough,

1903
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 7: right because we're always peeking around the next corner to

1904
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 7: see what bus is about to hit us.

1905
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: And it's a tough that's not a fun way to live.

1906
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 4: It is negative. I see it now and my kids, like.

1907
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 7: They were both born and raised in Los Angeles, but

1908
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 7: they are strictly Cleveland sports fans, and I see the

1909
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 7: same thing.

1910
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 4: Like the way they're acting, I'm like, what's the matter

1911
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: with you guys?

1912
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 7: And I go, oh my god, I've been there after this,

1913
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 7: and so that part is is challenging. But I think

1914
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 7: this team sits in a really good spot because people

1915
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 7: know that. When they talk about the Cleveland Browns nationally,

1916
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 7: I think the mantra is they're really talented. But but

1917
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 7: there's you know, Joe Burrow in Cincinnati and Lamar's finally

1918
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 7: got his deal time and Mike tom One never has

1919
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 7: a losing season, so they could be really good. But

1920
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 7: I think we have a great opportunity to do a

1921
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 7: ton of special things.

1922
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and I think the hard part

1923
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: about talking about it is this is a team that's

1924
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: just got to do it right, and it starts with it.

1925
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 2: You get Cincinnati at home, Monday Night football at the Steelers.

1926
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: You get the Ravens in Week four. I mean, yeah,

1927
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: that first month, that's all there for you to show

1928
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: that you are a team of consequence. And I think

1929
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: it is good that we're under the radar because you know,

1930
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty nineteen and go to twenty

1931
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: twenty one.

1932
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,879
Speaker 4: I'd even go back to twenty fifteen.

1933
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: Coming off of what was felt like some momentum in

1934
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, it just always has fallen flat. And so

1935
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 2: this is a opportunty where really nobody's talking about you.

1936
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 2: It is easily the best roster we've had, certainly in

1937
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: my eleventh seasons here.

1938
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 4: Las loaded it all the important positions. Any that's not

1939
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 4: us saying that.

1940
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: Everybody around the league saying that in terms of you

1941
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: gets people hand out roster. It's a top eight, top

1942
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: nine roster in the league, one of the late rosters

1943
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: that certainly can win suit. Well, they have to go

1944
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: out and they have to win games. And I think

1945
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: your point about Cleveland fans is so right on. I

1946
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: remember when I moved here as I in two thousand

1947
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: and one, and one of the first big Cleveland sporting

1948
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: ones after I moved here. I feel like they were

1949
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: in like they're playing the Red Sox and the Alcs,

1950
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 2: I want to say, and we're up three to one

1951
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: and ended.

1952
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 4: Up not getting it done.

1953
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: But that was seven seven okay, So like that was

1954
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: one of the first big ones though, because nobody was

1955
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: going for championships really right. So that happened, and then

1956
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: I was like, and then you get Lebron, I'm like,

1957
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 2: we have the best player in the world. When when

1958
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: I was with the Niners, they you know, Joe Montangerris

1959
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: is the best player. They win and they're like, no,

1960
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: you don't understand. It's Cleveland, and of course you know

1961
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: things would not work out for a very long time.

1962
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: Fortunate Lebron did get that title. But there is a

1963
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: ton of that mentality, and even when it comes to

1964
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: the coverage of this team, we've talked about many times.

1965
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 4: Some I don't think people even know what to do.

1966
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 7: When it's kind of positive news stories, we don't and

1967
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 7: also when things are tough, because when you play a

1968
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 7: seventeen game schedules, you guys know it is like this,

1969
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 7: very few teams are this and just keep crescendoing. That

1970
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 7: doesn't happen, So like we all play the same game.

1971
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 7: Right when the schedule comes out in May, we all

1972
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 7: go win loss, and then you're like, hen'll know. And

1973
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 7: then you look at it and you're like, I gotta

1974
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 7: do this again because it came out nine to eight,

1975
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 7: and then you want to feel better, you do it again,

1976
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 7: and now of a sudden, your schedule, your fake schedule

1977
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 7: eleven and six.

1978
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Speaker 4: That's like, right, the best club in your bag is

1979
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 4: your pencil on the.

1980
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Speaker 7: So you know, this is what we do, and I

1981
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 7: just don't want us to panic. I'm just telling you, like,

1982
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 7: if after five games, after that Niners game, if for

1983
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 7: some reason we're two and three instead of four and one,

1984
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 7: just let's go.

1985
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 4: It's okay.

1986
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 7: Last season the Bengals started oh and two, they started

1987
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 7: four and four, and they didn't lose another game until

1988
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 7: the AFC title game. So I know the season feels

1989
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 7: short because you're like, it's only seventeen games, you know,

1990
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 7: like the Guardians play that by mid April. But you know,

1991
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 7: just let's all take a deep breath. Well, let's all

1992
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 7: do that together. If I have to come back on

1993
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 7: the show, and we all hold hands and just do

1994
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 7: this together, no matter where we are. For five and

1995
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 7: oh two and three. I don't care. We will get through.

1996
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 14: We will.

1997
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay now on that look forward to the call. Yeah,

1998
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Speaker 4: I'm Frida. You and the Hoff gonna be fun. That's fun, Chris,

1999
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: Thanks buddy, absolutely, It's always great Senior.

2000
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Speaker 6: You too, buddy, So much more to come you Listen

2001
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Speaker 6: to Clevelan Brons Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2002
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2003
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2004
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 6: A little closer to us now, we had a little

2005
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 6: intercept Sean right in front of us, my friend plan.

2006
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 2: Zell with a tip on a ball intended for Cedar

2007
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: Tillman from Josh Dobbs, and then Jordan Kunashik, who is

2008
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 2: just having an off season of off seasons, came up

2009
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: with it and then took the knee. It must be

2010
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 2: a two minute drill type of a situation, end of game.

2011
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Took the kne to slidify the win. A heady play

2012
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 2: even in an emotionally joyous moment.

2013
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 6: It is I guess this is the first time that

2014
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 6: I've just seen it this way, but it is weird

2015
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 6: seeing the twenty one in white on the twenty seven

2016
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 6: rather in white on the defense. So used to Kareem

2017
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 6: being here on the other side, yep, but to see

2018
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 6: that twenty seven on the other side is there as

2019
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 6: they're working in front of us here.

2020
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: So my final play, Watson dropping back, throws out to

2021
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: the right, complete to Amari Cooper about I don't know,

2022
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty yards down the field, a.

2023
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 4: Little bit on tempo Lorenzo Burns. So yeah, it is

2024
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 4: a two minute drill.

2025
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 7: They're trying to get down and score the football here,

2026
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 7: and that was a good start to that drive.

2027
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: It's the ones going against the looks like a combination

2028
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: of the twos and threes on defense. But Anthony Ti Taki, Yeah,

2029
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: love to see that. Taki's in there as well. So yeah,

2030
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: they've got they've got a couple of cats out there.

2031
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: Need to go, Elijah out. I think we've got one

2032
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: more play in here. Yeah, let's get what we got

2033
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: one more play. Next level is right right here. I

2034
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: can see in the shotgun looks to his left, look

2035
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: at the Elijah war takes a shot deep down the

2036
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 2: field from Mark Cooper battling. Maybe a flag could have

2037
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: been a hand fighting, little hands a little handsy but

2038
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: little hands out there, cam Mitchell, come out and burns

2039
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: out there, competing.

2040
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Speaker 5: The next level will take you from here. We're back tomorrow.

2041
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2042
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