WEBVTT - VisionQuest Episodes 1 & 2 Reactions 0:00:05.130 --> 0:00:08.300 Warhead, today's episode contains spoilers for the first two episodes 0:00:08.340 --> 0:00:11.890 of Vision Quest on Disney +. It's a good show, 0:00:12.010 --> 0:00:12.869 so you should watch it. 0:00:13.420 --> 0:00:33.120 True. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion. And I'm Rosie Knight. 0:00:33.620 --> 0:00:34.710 And welcome back to X-Ray Vision. 0:00:34.729 --> 0:00:36.729 The podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:36.830 --> 0:00:39.059 pop culture, and we're bringing you three episodes a week. 0:00:40.940 --> 0:00:42.979 In today's episode, we are diving into the first two 0:00:43.020 --> 0:00:44.100 episodes of Vision Quest. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.540 It's here, and oh my god, it's really fucking good. 0:00:46.620 --> 0:00:49.870 It's like, let's fucking go. Maybe the MCU is back. 0:00:49.930 --> 0:00:52.110 There is some interesting stuff. 0:00:52.150 --> 0:00:54.190 We're back again. You know, it's so over, and then 0:00:54.210 --> 0:00:56.840 we're back. But it's feeling like we might be back, baby, 0:00:56.850 --> 0:00:58.600 so we'll start off with a recap. We're going to 0:00:58.620 --> 0:01:00.080 fill you in as we go through about all the 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.160 things you want to know. Is this comic accurate? 0:01:02.220 --> 0:01:04.860 Is this new? Who are these MCUs? 0:01:04.900 --> 0:01:05.160 Yes. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:06.910 Androids. We'll tell you all of that. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.810 And then at the end, once we finish the recap 0:01:08.870 --> 0:01:12.230 and the info dump, we will give you our theories. 0:01:12.250 --> 0:01:13.950 Because there are a lot of things that we were 0:01:13.990 --> 0:01:16.669 right about, but they also offer up a lot of questions. 0:01:17.550 --> 0:01:19.890 So here we go. First of all, if you need 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.380 to catch up on all the stuff, hopefully you listen 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.050 to our... Vision Quest catch up episode that brings you 0:01:26.230 --> 0:01:30.020 through Avengers Age of Ultron all the way up through 0:01:30.030 --> 0:01:32.720 WandaVision and Agatha and all the stuff you need to 0:01:32.740 --> 0:01:35.460 know because it is quite deep and they immediately in 0:01:36.220 --> 0:01:40.740 episode one begin referencing like a lot of the deep 0:01:40.780 --> 0:01:43.480 history of these characters that you will kind of need 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:43.830 to know. 0:01:44.190 --> 0:01:47.009 So you could pause right If you are at that 0:01:47.069 --> 0:01:50.430 point and you were like, fuck, you could pause right here. 0:01:50.530 --> 0:01:52.450 You watch the recap and you've got some questions. 0:01:52.650 --> 0:01:53.270 Don't spoil it. 0:01:53.310 --> 0:01:56.550 Go listen to our explanation. It's one of Jason's legendary recaps. 0:01:57.010 --> 0:02:00.230 Everyone is a different act. It covers multiple movies. It 0:02:00.250 --> 0:02:02.030 will get you up to date. But I have to 0:02:02.070 --> 0:02:05.430 say the recap is so well done that it actually 0:02:05.450 --> 0:02:06.390 got me emotional. 0:02:06.610 --> 0:02:10.019 Like they set this up very well. They did. 0:02:10.580 --> 0:02:14.640 So we open episode one. Vision Quest, titled No Strings, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:21.280 with the White Vision narrating over a jumble of images 0:02:21.430 --> 0:02:24.510 from the history of the Vision, and White Vision is asking, 0:02:24.570 --> 0:02:27.850 who am I? I am Vision, or at least I was, 0:02:28.050 --> 0:02:31.970 and he gives us now the download on who Vision was, 0:02:32.070 --> 0:02:36.679 the body that he inhabits, created by Tony Stark, his 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.359 birth from Ultron, with the help of Stark and Banner, 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:40.080 and the. 0:02:40.100 --> 0:02:42.120 Influence on him. Interesting he didn't say anything about Thor. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.359 No magic, electricity, lightning. Maybe he didn't really know about that. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.100 I was going to. 0:02:47.980 --> 0:02:52.470 Say maybe mentally, it's not something that he can understand, 0:02:52.500 --> 0:02:55.830 but there is a lot about magic in this first episode. 0:02:55.930 --> 0:02:59.110 And maybe that's going to explain partially some of the 0:02:59.150 --> 0:03:00.990 events of the show and maybe some of the mad, 0:03:01.030 --> 0:03:02.270 how the magic happens. 0:03:02.610 --> 0:03:06.970 I mean, we're jumping ahead, but I was thinking that it's, 0:03:08.150 --> 0:03:10.290 You know, like, what's he running on? I think he's 0:03:10.410 --> 0:03:12.959 running on Asgardian lightning magic currently. 0:03:13.020 --> 0:03:13.280 Thank you. 0:03:13.300 --> 0:03:14.020 The White Vision. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.280 Anyway. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.480 100%. So he takes us through, you know, his birth 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.680 from Ultron, the role that Stark and Banner played on 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:29.940 his development, the influence of the other Stark AIs on him, Friday, Dummy, you, Jarvis, 0:03:30.430 --> 0:03:36.730 and Edith, how Vision protected humanity alongside the Avengers, fell 0:03:36.770 --> 0:03:41.900 in love with Wanda. And that is obviously the big 0:03:42.260 --> 0:03:46.120 thing in the Vision's life. She made me feel real, 0:03:46.490 --> 0:03:48.630 he says. And then, of course, the events of Infinity 0:03:48.670 --> 0:03:53.990 War and Vision's death. Then his body's reclamation by sword, 0:03:54.090 --> 0:03:55.850 who took it apart to try and figure out how 0:03:55.930 --> 0:04:00.220 it worked. And then the conjuring of the hex bubble 0:04:00.300 --> 0:04:04.720 around Westview, New Jersey, and the creation of the hex 0:04:04.820 --> 0:04:07.860 magic version of the Vision, which for all intents and 0:04:07.900 --> 0:04:12.280 purposes was real, complete with a whole Unreal family and 0:04:12.580 --> 0:04:15.280 their sons, Tommy and Billy. And now, of course, he 0:04:15.340 --> 0:04:19.730 exists again in the original Vision body, now colored white. 0:04:20.589 --> 0:04:25.490 And with the original memories, the OG Vision's memories and 0:04:25.890 --> 0:04:29.320 the Magical Hex Vision's memories all kind of jumbled together. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.060 But the whole thing with this version of the Vision 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.120 is he doesn't have the emotion. He doesn't understand what 0:04:36.140 --> 0:04:38.789 it means to be a human. He doesn't understand how 0:04:39.330 --> 0:04:42.690 the previous versions of the Vision felt about any of 0:04:42.750 --> 0:04:46.160 the things that happened to him. And all of those 0:04:46.220 --> 0:04:48.370 things are the things that make up the current Vision, 0:04:48.610 --> 0:04:52.589 but he just lacks an ability to connect. It's very interesting, 0:04:52.630 --> 0:04:55.650 and it's such a metatextual take on this character. 0:04:56.050 --> 0:04:57.349 Really cool stuff. 0:04:57.910 --> 0:05:01.030 And if you didn't think that this was going to 0:05:01.070 --> 0:05:05.610 have the emotional depth of WandaVision, the introduction allows you 0:05:05.650 --> 0:05:07.770 to know that, no, they're going to try and get you. 0:05:07.950 --> 0:05:09.850 They're going to get there. They're going to get there. 0:05:09.870 --> 0:05:14.370 There's something about this lost version of Vision, this man 0:05:14.410 --> 0:05:17.070 that we know and don't know who's finding himself and 0:05:17.110 --> 0:05:21.900 also looking for himself. It's instantly so evocative of Wanda 0:05:21.980 --> 0:05:25.240 and WandaVision and the Hex. And I'm so excited that 0:05:25.260 --> 0:05:29.160 this show exists. It's so tremendously sad, too. You know, 0:05:29.180 --> 0:05:31.729 the whole thing is such a sad story. 0:05:32.330 --> 0:05:32.849 Oh, my God. 0:05:33.130 --> 0:05:38.670 So White Vision in human form is working at a 0:05:38.790 --> 0:05:44.730 pub in Edinburgh. Where apparently, back in the day, OG 0:05:45.450 --> 0:05:47.930 Vision and Wanda, when they were on the road after 0:05:47.970 --> 0:05:51.169 the events of Civil War, used to come in. And 0:05:51.230 --> 0:05:54.630 there's Sanford and Son, an old American sitcom, is on 0:05:54.650 --> 0:05:58.650 the TV. People know him as Sherwood. The manager does. 0:05:58.710 --> 0:06:01.770 And she's chatting him up about, you know, it's closing 0:06:01.810 --> 0:06:03.490 time and she's kind of chatting to him. And he's 0:06:03.529 --> 0:06:06.890 like awkwardly trying to make chit-chat, pretending not to have 0:06:06.970 --> 0:06:11.880 super strength by lifting three kegs easily. And... That's a 0:06:11.900 --> 0:06:15.560 great ad. She notes that he used to be so 0:06:15.580 --> 0:06:17.520 much better when you used to come in here back 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.960 in the day and making small talk. And she notes 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.220 that he's more odd now, but she still is quite 0:06:25.260 --> 0:06:29.140 warm to him. She asks about that lady, the redhead 0:06:29.180 --> 0:06:31.320 that he used to come into the place with. 0:06:32.170 --> 0:06:34.120 And he was like, oh. 0:06:34.290 --> 0:06:37.490 I was a different time. I was a different person then. 0:06:37.570 --> 0:06:40.029 And she asked what happened to her. And he says, well, 0:06:40.070 --> 0:06:46.400 it's complicated. She was crushed under the weight of a mountain. Honest. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:47.969 Honesty. We love him. 0:06:48.260 --> 0:06:50.040 I also want to say if you're somebody like me 0:06:50.100 --> 0:06:54.130 who post WandaVision owns multiple like what is love, if 0:06:54.210 --> 0:06:57.310 not grief persevering, like flash sheets and shit, you will 0:06:57.410 --> 0:07:01.210 instantly be upset because you will recognize where Sherwood comes from. 0:07:01.290 --> 0:07:04.440 They explain it later, but you'll already be crying if 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.979 you are a WandaVision stan, as I am. And this 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.000 is so beautiful to see something brought to life that 0:07:10.300 --> 0:07:12.320 so many of us have loved in the comics and 0:07:12.340 --> 0:07:14.980 that has been such a great part of the MCU, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.060 even in some of the lesser movies. 0:07:17.790 --> 0:07:20.050 Yes, that's absolutely right. 0:07:20.770 --> 0:07:20.970 So. 0:07:21.990 --> 0:07:24.110 she kind of takes that under the weight of the 0:07:24.150 --> 0:07:26.830 mountain as like a metaphor for like falling on hard 0:07:26.870 --> 0:07:29.390 times or anyone or something like that. And so she's like, well, 0:07:29.570 --> 0:07:32.710 are you with anybody now? And he's like, no, you know, 0:07:32.750 --> 0:07:34.870 I'm just kind of by myself. And she invites him 0:07:34.890 --> 0:07:38.710 to her Sunday roast. He's like, I do a Sunday 0:07:38.770 --> 0:07:40.670 roast and you should come by. And it's really nice. 0:07:40.690 --> 0:07:43.010 You know, we'd love to have you. He's like, yeah, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.480 but I'm not, I'm not great with people. She calls 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.280 him her odd wee duck and puts a little sticker, 0:07:49.300 --> 0:07:53.120 a little red smiley face sticker. on his jacket and 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.760 tells him, okay, lock up. And she goes to sleep. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.700 So he's locking up and he finds W plus V 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.000 and a heart carved on a table. And it's so sad. 0:08:02.020 --> 0:08:03.520 Oh my gosh. 0:08:04.140 --> 0:08:07.810 And then he's, and I know it's so sad. And then, 0:08:07.830 --> 0:08:09.790 you know, he closes up, he turns off all the 0:08:09.850 --> 0:08:14.170 lights and then steps into the freezer where apparently he 0:08:15.190 --> 0:08:18.740 stays overnight. So then he transforms into his true vision 0:08:18.810 --> 0:08:23.490 form and then you know, goes into sleep mode and 0:08:23.630 --> 0:08:29.970 goes into his beautiful, stately, kind of strangely shaped mind palace, 0:08:29.990 --> 0:08:32.709 which is on many simulated acres with a color and 0:08:32.750 --> 0:08:36.150 vibe that is like the Windows XP, like green grassy fields. 0:08:36.330 --> 0:08:38.530 What if you put like a fucked up version of 0:08:38.580 --> 0:08:42.520 the practical magic house on like a Windows XP background? 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:43.500 It's very much that. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.900 And all the AIs, the Stark AIs from the past 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.640 are there. Yes. Even like the very, very early ones, 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.770 like Dummy, who was the mechanical arm, you might remember 0:08:53.790 --> 0:08:56.430 from Iron Man 1 and 2. Also, Yu is there, 0:08:56.490 --> 0:08:59.170 another one of those kind of robotic AIs. They don't 0:08:59.250 --> 0:09:01.630 speak much and they deal with maintenance in here. All 0:09:01.670 --> 0:09:04.220 of the AIs have a different role. Jarvis, who is 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.750 like the older brother of... And the mentor is there. 0:09:08.270 --> 0:09:10.860 Friday is there, who does like a lot of kind 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.339 of like the upkeep and making sure things run efficiently. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.439 Statistics on what he's learning about humanity, his kind of 0:09:18.540 --> 0:09:21.280 growth over the years that he's been living in this setup, 0:09:21.340 --> 0:09:23.510 which does seem to be years from what we're gaining. 0:09:24.650 --> 0:09:27.929 Jarvis notices that there is a leak in the house dripping. 0:09:28.530 --> 0:09:31.570 And as Vision is reading the paper with very interesting headlines, 0:09:31.670 --> 0:09:36.170 one tech giant murdered by the butcher bird killer. And 0:09:36.190 --> 0:09:40.290 hunt for stolen adamantium continues. And then something about Hammer, 0:09:40.700 --> 0:09:43.859 who I guess Justin Hammer's still out there in the world. 0:09:45.380 --> 0:09:48.280 Jarvis informs Vision that they have some sort of security leak, 0:09:48.300 --> 0:09:51.990 some security breach. Vision is like, don't worry about it. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.060 You're worried too much about it. But Jarvis, who again 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.660 thinks of himself as Vision's older brother, is kind of 0:09:57.700 --> 0:10:03.590 freaking out. And Vision's like, listen, no one's looking for me. 0:10:04.230 --> 0:10:04.590 S.W.O.R.D. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.310 Is disbanded. The Avengers are gone. Nobody's interested in me. 0:10:08.350 --> 0:10:10.110 Nobody's thinking about me anymore. 0:10:10.230 --> 0:10:10.890 It's fine. 0:10:11.670 --> 0:10:15.110 He then gets an idea and he calls for Friday. 0:10:15.550 --> 0:10:20.170 Friday comes up and he's like, hey, today. And Friday 0:10:20.250 --> 0:10:23.880 is like the person who is tasked with making him 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.059 the most human he can be. 0:10:25.140 --> 0:10:25.319 Yes. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.620 Like in his interactions with people. Embracing humanity is what 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:29.540 he keeps saying. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:29.630 Yes. 0:10:30.809 --> 0:10:32.510 And he's like, hey, I had a weird interaction with 0:10:32.550 --> 0:10:35.770 this drunk customer today. What was that about? And she's like, oh, 0:10:35.890 --> 0:10:39.069 he thought you were trying to fuck his wife. And 0:10:39.330 --> 0:10:42.870 Vision is like, oh, okay, that's weird. Okay, what about 0:10:42.910 --> 0:10:46.850 my manager? My manager says I'm odd and stuff like that. Fiona, 0:10:47.150 --> 0:10:51.830 the manager's name. And Friday's like, no, no, no, she 0:10:51.870 --> 0:10:54.209 likes you. She does think you're odd, but she has 0:10:54.250 --> 0:10:57.920 no suspicions. But you should loosen up. And that's where 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.200 Edith comes in. Edith, the AI, the kind of most 0:11:01.300 --> 0:11:02.880 recent of the Stark AIs. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.300 So funny. Did not expect this. 0:11:05.340 --> 0:11:07.100 But I kind of love how it plays on the 0:11:07.140 --> 0:11:10.500 fact that Tony Stark gave the Edith tech to a teenager. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.020 And now she is kind of has all these teenage 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:17.230 interests and these extreme sports interests played by the incredible 0:11:17.330 --> 0:11:20.969 Emily Hampshire. And this really unexpected, like comedic kind of 0:11:21.030 --> 0:11:22.110 chaotic performance. 0:11:22.350 --> 0:11:25.209 I completely agree. So she parachutes straight through the skylight 0:11:25.250 --> 0:11:28.490 of the house. And she is just chaotic. Jarvis kind 0:11:28.530 --> 0:11:33.209 of hates it. Jarvis thinks that everybody else on staff 0:11:33.290 --> 0:11:36.650 like has a particular job and role except for Edith, 0:11:37.170 --> 0:11:40.600 who Edith just seems like she's just there for like 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.719 craziness and like fast paced chaos and fun. Meanwhile, there's 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:52.200 like loud yelling and music, strange music. emanations from coming 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.739 up from upstairs. Jarvis doesn't like that either and says 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.559 something to the effect of, I wish that guy didn't 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.240 live here. And we know this, the only person this 0:12:00.260 --> 0:12:02.000 could be. Vision goes upstairs. 0:12:02.100 --> 0:12:02.679 Who could it be? 0:12:03.020 --> 0:12:08.020 Vision goes upstairs and watches his memories in his little 0:12:08.100 --> 0:12:12.160 memory movie theater. And he watches, you know, his OG 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.699 Vision fighting Ultron during Age of Ultron. He sees a 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.700 conversation that I think is like maybe a cutting room 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.080 floor conversation. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.660 More expanded version of a conversation. 0:12:22.710 --> 0:12:26.190 From maybe Civil War or something. Yeah, between he and Wanda, 0:12:26.230 --> 0:12:29.690 in which Wanda is just kind of talking about how 0:12:29.750 --> 0:12:32.370 it feels to do her magic. And it's clear that 0:12:32.410 --> 0:12:35.780 she's connecting with Vision. She's opening up to him. Vision 0:12:35.820 --> 0:12:40.520 watches the old version of himself kiss Wanda. And he's really... 0:12:41.010 --> 0:12:43.719 grappling with what did that feel like? What did that 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:44.600 mean to me? 0:12:44.660 --> 0:12:45.900 What did it mean? Yeah. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.160 Meanwhile, as he's watching this stuff, the house, the simulated 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.500 house they were all in kind of breaks. The light 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.910 bulbs are popping and Jarvis is like, every time he 0:12:54.950 --> 0:12:58.230 watches these memories, something goes wrong. Why does he have 0:12:58.250 --> 0:13:01.350 to do it? And Friday's like, well, he's trying to 0:13:01.450 --> 0:13:03.610 understand his feelings. He's trying to understand the feelings that 0:13:03.630 --> 0:13:05.260 he used to have. He's trying to feel more human. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.800 And we understand that he's clearly struggling he's not doing 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.240 a great job not doing great unbeknownst to vision at 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.330 the request of the person who lives at the upper 0:13:18.370 --> 0:13:22.329 floor of the house oh the the sword security files 0:13:22.390 --> 0:13:27.829 are loaded into the projector uh and vish hates this 0:13:27.870 --> 0:13:30.480 stuff you know it's the stuff from inside westview and 0:13:30.500 --> 0:13:33.600 the Hex TV versions. He starts to see his kids 0:13:33.620 --> 0:13:35.320 when they were born. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.339 It's obviously very upsetting to him. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.570 Yeah, so it's clear that Vision does... He understands emotion 0:13:41.809 --> 0:13:44.429 on some level, right? He feels it on some level, 0:13:44.490 --> 0:13:49.150 even though he doesn't want to, you know, really grapple 0:13:49.190 --> 0:13:51.030 with that. He goes upstairs, and guess who it is? 0:13:51.100 --> 0:13:51.720 It's Ultron. 0:13:51.820 --> 0:13:52.340 He's up there. 0:13:52.660 --> 0:13:53.040 My king. 0:13:53.100 --> 0:14:00.360 Ultron is ranting and raving because... of the incompetency of 0:14:00.420 --> 0:14:05.920 the simulated DoorDash delivery services that happen inside this memory palace. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:12.300 And Ultron is like, haranguing Vision about this, that, and 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.580 the other. And Vision's like, listen, I told you never 0:14:14.700 --> 0:14:17.210 play the sword Westview tapes ever, ever, ever. 0:14:17.470 --> 0:14:18.370 Never, ever, ever. 0:14:18.790 --> 0:14:19.590 Never, ever, ever. 0:14:19.890 --> 0:14:23.590 You're lucky I get to let you be autonomous within 0:14:23.650 --> 0:14:27.960 my mind and basically confirms what we said in the 0:14:27.980 --> 0:14:34.820 Vision Quest catch up, which is that Vision secretly saved Ultron. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.610 Though he destroyed his body, he downloaded his entire consciousness 0:14:38.830 --> 0:14:41.470 into the gem, into his mind, and held it there 0:14:41.710 --> 0:14:44.790 after the fight in Sokovia. So this is a big 0:14:44.830 --> 0:14:47.330 deal and a big reveal. And I got to say, 0:14:48.450 --> 0:14:50.570 that movie is now, what, 13 years old? 0:14:50.590 --> 0:14:50.830 Yep. 0:14:50.830 --> 0:14:54.340 12, 13 years old, and they cut away from Vision. 0:14:54.580 --> 0:14:56.960 They cut away from Vision and Ultron in the final moment. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.359 We literally said that. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.340 Vision is killing Ultron. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:04.270 You don't see what happens. And man, they really planned. 0:15:04.570 --> 0:15:07.310 It's clear, I think, to bring Ultron back at some point. 0:15:07.330 --> 0:15:07.990 So this is great. 0:15:08.270 --> 0:15:10.770 I also want to say it works really well for me, 0:15:10.870 --> 0:15:14.870 the idea of these human avatars, right? Because we've always 0:15:14.930 --> 0:15:18.950 seen Metal Ultron. That is obviously a more expensive... component 0:15:18.970 --> 0:15:20.490 though they have a lot of fun with playing with 0:15:20.550 --> 0:15:22.990 it here but we get to see James Spader play 0:15:23.030 --> 0:15:26.360 Ultron and it's so good him and Paul Bettany's chemistry 0:15:26.390 --> 0:15:29.140 in this they're wonderful unbelievable like it's a lot of 0:15:29.180 --> 0:15:31.620 the first episode is really a two-hander of them just 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.140 kind of going at it and it works so freaking good. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.600 The other thing I love about it Rosie is the 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:42.580 way that as Vision is struggling to understand emotions and 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.660 the emotions he used to have and what it was 0:15:44.700 --> 0:15:47.660 like to be a synthetic man something like a person 0:15:48.700 --> 0:15:52.070 The whole time Ultron is like a fully realized person. 0:15:52.210 --> 0:15:56.410 Yes, a human being talking to him as his father, 0:15:56.510 --> 0:15:59.620 as his therapist, as his enemy, as his animal. 0:16:00.180 --> 0:16:03.680 It works so freaking well. It really does. And also 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.410 James Spader's delivery is so funny. He's wonderful. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.960 So what's Ultron up to with the, you know, sneaking 0:16:26.980 --> 0:16:32.620 the sword files into the projector? And Ultron is being coy. 0:16:32.660 --> 0:16:35.320 He's being canny about it. He's putting on different hats 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.440 and playing with different hats. Vig makes him put on 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.780 his human form, as you say. And... Vision is like, listen, 0:16:43.100 --> 0:16:45.160 I'm trying to understand what my old life was like. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.380 I'm trying to understand what I was as a person. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.680 Vision was a hero, okay? The real Vision. The Westview 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.040 hex version of Vision, that's fake. He was a fantasy. 0:16:57.340 --> 0:17:00.240 He didn't exist. He was a creation of Wanda, a 0:17:00.260 --> 0:17:03.500 creation of magic, something else. And it's clear also that 0:17:04.500 --> 0:17:07.800 as a creature of science, although he is downplaying, to 0:17:07.820 --> 0:17:11.010 your point, how much magic he comes from. I think 0:17:11.050 --> 0:17:14.250 Vision really struggles with the magic part. Yes. He's struggling 0:17:14.290 --> 0:17:16.990 with that. And Ultron is like, yeah. 0:17:17.250 --> 0:17:19.590 No, say what Ultron says, because it's basically the great 0:17:19.690 --> 0:17:22.050 explainer of why he's struggling so much. 0:17:22.540 --> 0:17:26.140 He's like, no, you just can't handle the things that 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.730 happened inside the house. You can't handle it. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.899 And he can use magic as a way to logic 0:17:30.940 --> 0:17:33.780 his way out of not understanding rather than emotions. 0:17:34.500 --> 0:17:35.320 That's right. 0:17:36.850 --> 0:17:40.210 Ultron is then, you know, again, complaining about the DoorDash menu, this, that, 0:17:40.230 --> 0:17:44.320 and the other. And he's asking basically, so what are 0:17:44.340 --> 0:17:47.280 you trying to accomplish going and working at this pub 0:17:47.340 --> 0:17:50.160 as a human being? And Vision is like, I'm trying 0:17:50.180 --> 0:17:54.760 to embrace humanity. And this is so, this like broke 0:17:54.820 --> 0:17:58.260 me a little bit. He then says, you know, old Vision, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.400 the older version of myself had Wanda to help him. 0:18:01.420 --> 0:18:04.490 She was his guide. She was his guide. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.080 And I find humans strange and I'm all alone. I 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.359 don't have anyone. And Ultron is like, yeah, well, humans 0:18:11.420 --> 0:18:13.869 are kind of hard to understand. And that's why I 0:18:13.900 --> 0:18:16.850 tried to kill them all. 0:18:17.050 --> 0:18:21.290 I got a massive laugh out of me. On the couch. 0:18:21.470 --> 0:18:21.930 So fun. 0:18:21.970 --> 0:18:22.350 Yeah. 0:18:22.990 --> 0:18:26.270 So then... Ultron is like, okay, look at this to 0:18:26.310 --> 0:18:28.590 try and understand humans. Let's look at this Goya painting. 0:18:28.609 --> 0:18:31.350 He shows them the famous Goya painting of the seventh 0:18:31.510 --> 0:18:32.290 level of Hell. 0:18:32.109 --> 0:18:32.530 In a Limbo. 0:18:32.550 --> 0:18:36.270 Dante's Inferno. Dante's Inferno. And he's like, look at this. 0:18:36.690 --> 0:18:42.340 You see how humans have beauty, but they also have terror. 0:18:42.420 --> 0:18:43.540 Pain, suffering. 0:18:43.740 --> 0:18:48.320 Yeah, they're grotesque, but they're also lovely. And Vision's like, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.649 why do you know so much about them? What's going on? 0:18:50.660 --> 0:18:51.899 He's like, well, they beat me. 0:18:52.609 --> 0:18:55.530 So I've been spending all my time since they beat 0:18:55.590 --> 0:18:59.060 me trying to understand them. And it's clear that he 0:18:59.100 --> 0:19:01.399 has come to an understanding of them. It's also fascinating 0:19:01.859 --> 0:19:07.300 to think about Ultron, since his defeat, is just stewing 0:19:07.420 --> 0:19:09.830 on his defeat to the Avengers. 0:19:10.390 --> 0:19:11.790 So much has gone on. 0:19:11.850 --> 0:19:15.070 And honestly, I will say, if you're somebody. 0:19:14.830 --> 0:19:16.750 Who's really excited... to. 0:19:16.700 --> 0:19:19.369 Get TV shows that deeply connect to the canon of 0:19:19.390 --> 0:19:21.970 the MCU, you will be very happy with this show. 0:19:22.030 --> 0:19:25.190 There's a lot of deep references. They talk about Thanos. 0:19:25.250 --> 0:19:28.030 They make jokes like, yeah, this is a very lived 0:19:28.090 --> 0:19:29.050 in world for sure. 0:19:29.890 --> 0:19:34.120 So he, um, So Vision is like, okay, what would 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.020 you do if I released you from the Mind Palace, 0:19:37.060 --> 0:19:38.820 if you could go out in the world again? He says, well, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.120 I would visit all the world's great museums, or I'd 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:46.210 kill all humanity. Coin flip, really? You know, like, we 0:19:46.230 --> 0:19:50.780 could go either way. Now, Ultron does have good advice 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.040 for Vision. He's like, listen, you can't be a bystander 0:19:53.060 --> 0:19:55.300 in your life for very much longer. At some point, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.419 as you go out into the world and just kind 0:19:58.460 --> 0:20:02.030 of observe, it's going to observe you back. You're going 0:20:02.090 --> 0:20:05.629 to be The truth. Watched and noticed by something. And 0:20:05.670 --> 0:20:08.570 the thesis of this show, as we will see, this. 0:20:08.550 --> 0:20:09.810 Comes very quickly. 0:20:10.170 --> 0:20:14.180 Now, sadly, unbeknownst to Vision, Ultron has been playing a 0:20:14.260 --> 0:20:17.300 role in that noticing. Because as soon as Vision leaves 0:20:18.820 --> 0:20:24.100 Ultron's room, Ultron, who has apparently cracked the Vision's broadcast security, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.189 sends an encrypted signal out of Vision himself. And we 0:20:28.210 --> 0:20:30.430 will find out to where. We go back to the pub. 0:20:30.450 --> 0:20:34.810 It's a new day. It's closing time again. Viz is 0:20:34.869 --> 0:20:38.460 chatting with the manager and she invites him to the 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.000 roast again. And it seems like he's getting better at 0:20:42.060 --> 0:20:45.290 talking to her when a sniper shoots her. 0:20:45.890 --> 0:20:48.280 And she dies, basically, in his arms. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:48.600 R.I.P. 0:20:48.619 --> 0:20:49.239 Fiona. 0:20:49.300 --> 0:20:53.360 Fridged. We barely knew you. Just immediately fridged. Immediately fridged. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.159 But it's okay. It's okay, Fiona. We will remember you. 0:20:57.180 --> 0:20:59.449 We will remember you. 0:20:59.590 --> 0:21:02.210 I'm so sad about what happened to you, but it 0:21:02.250 --> 0:21:02.750 did happen. 0:21:02.869 --> 0:21:03.209 R.I.P. 0:21:04.030 --> 0:21:09.970 So Vig is kneeling over Fiona. What is he feeling 0:21:09.990 --> 0:21:11.790 in this moment? It's hard to say, but he keeps 0:21:11.869 --> 0:21:14.810 staring at her while the AIs are inside of his 0:21:14.850 --> 0:21:17.810 mind palace are going into defensive security mode. And they 0:21:17.850 --> 0:21:21.630 tell him there's lots of attackers outside. And they also 0:21:21.710 --> 0:21:24.010 kind of signal to us that like, you know, old 0:21:24.090 --> 0:21:28.550 vision really cared about human life and would take great 0:21:28.630 --> 0:21:32.760 pains to not take a life. And White Vision is like, well, 0:21:32.780 --> 0:21:34.940 I'm not that guy anymore. And he just fucking goes. 0:21:35.060 --> 0:21:36.459 Let's try something new. 0:21:36.500 --> 0:21:40.100 And then he like did a bullseye level killing mission. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:41.880 I mean, he kills all these guys. 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.260 Like 25 guys. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.020 He just wipes these guys out. Getting them at the numbers. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.220 Him and Wanda. Got to keep it up in the family. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.859 Meanwhile, their mysterious leader is like listening to all of 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.120 this on a walkie talkie outside. We will eventually discover 0:21:57.180 --> 0:21:59.630 that this is kind of a. What would you say 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.560 B or C? I would say C tier. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:06.800 A C tier Marvel antagonist. Captain America Avengers villain. Basically 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:08.580 a bounty hunter for hire. Yeah, Paladin. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.250 Exactly kind of like what they portray him as here, 0:22:11.270 --> 0:22:14.409 though this is a reimagining and unusual casting, as we 0:22:14.430 --> 0:22:14.869 will see. 0:22:14.890 --> 0:22:17.129 Yeah, like I would put this, I would put the 0:22:17.190 --> 0:22:20.330 Paladin in the same level as like Batroc, the Leaper. 0:22:20.369 --> 0:22:23.340 Yeah, he's lower than Bullseye, but you could still see 0:22:23.380 --> 0:22:24.500 him fight Bullseye. 0:22:24.900 --> 0:22:26.000 Yes. It wouldn't be crazy. 0:22:26.950 --> 0:22:31.939 So Paladin is listening to all of this and he 0:22:31.980 --> 0:22:35.600 sends reinforcements to attack the pub with chain guns, shooting, 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.740 just blasting the shit out of it from outside. None 0:22:38.780 --> 0:22:40.879 of it really does any of the vision. He's got that, 0:22:40.900 --> 0:22:43.590 he's made of that vibranium mesh, you know, and so 0:22:43.630 --> 0:22:48.070 it's just bouncing off of him. He thinks about the 0:22:49.270 --> 0:22:52.330 W plus V heart and he's looking at the fallen 0:22:52.810 --> 0:22:57.490 Fiona and he's feeling something. You know, when Edith suggests, hey, 0:22:57.540 --> 0:22:59.840 there's a skylight in the pub. Remember, like, you could 0:22:59.900 --> 0:23:01.480 use it as an exit. So he flies up in 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:01.840 a way. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:02.140 And he's gone. 0:23:02.900 --> 0:23:06.480 But before he goes, he locks eyes with the mysterious guy, 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.620 the paladin, and then flies off. The paladin goes into 0:23:10.660 --> 0:23:14.250 the pub and basically says to all the dead guys, hey, 0:23:14.350 --> 0:23:15.570 great job, guys. 0:23:15.710 --> 0:23:17.510 Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. 0:23:17.570 --> 0:23:21.409 Thank you for your sacrifice. That was really helpful. Then 0:23:21.430 --> 0:23:23.250 he calls the sniper over and he says, what did 0:23:23.270 --> 0:23:25.720 I tell you about? collateral damage and he shoots the 0:23:25.740 --> 0:23:29.300 sniper in the head kills him and then his assistant 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.360 Philomena Kunk calls a. 0:23:31.310 --> 0:23:35.250 Blessing of a casting that I did not know that 0:23:35.290 --> 0:23:39.010 made me so happy every time and the delivery is 0:23:39.070 --> 0:23:42.510 perfect she's so funny she's basically his like hacker behind 0:23:42.570 --> 0:23:45.530 the screen but with that deadpan delivery always. 0:23:45.390 --> 0:23:51.219 Perfection and she is Appearing in her kunk on history. 0:23:51.260 --> 0:23:57.070 Basically her kunk persona. So she is like... She patches 0:23:57.090 --> 0:24:00.270 in the client. The person who hired the Paladin. And 0:24:00.290 --> 0:24:04.250 then we hear this distorted voice. This distorted voice is like, 0:24:04.310 --> 0:24:05.990 I thought you were the best. You fucked up. What 0:24:06.010 --> 0:24:10.910 the fuck? And Paladin's like, listen. This is just part 0:24:10.970 --> 0:24:13.659 one of the plan. And the guy's made of Vibranium mesh. 0:24:13.740 --> 0:24:17.170 I can't... We're working on it. And the client's like, listen, 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:22.520 I need vision intact. And then hangs up. Kunk tells 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:28.480 Paladin that whoever hacked into their systems was watching the 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:33.000 whole incident and must have really great sword encryption because 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:39.360 they can't figure out who it is. The leader, Paladin, 0:24:39.580 --> 0:24:42.139 doesn't know much about his client, but is of the 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:47.130 opinion that It's S.W.O.R.D. trying to get their property back, 0:24:47.150 --> 0:24:50.150 which is like the body of the Vision that once 0:24:51.170 --> 0:24:52.609 was housed in the S.W.O.R.D. 0:24:52.630 --> 0:24:53.070 Headquarters. 0:24:53.650 --> 0:24:57.430 Vig goes to hide out in an old electronic shop. 0:24:57.850 --> 0:24:58.629 Yeah. 0:24:59.130 --> 0:25:02.490 And goes to his mind palace. And he and the A.I. 0:25:02.550 --> 0:25:04.570 are just kind of like going over the intel. Vision's like, 0:25:04.670 --> 0:25:07.170 I want answers. Like, what just happened? Who is this guy? 0:25:07.210 --> 0:25:12.620 Jarvis is like, listen, hey, your boss just got fridged. 0:25:14.850 --> 0:25:18.560 Take time to grieve. And Viz can't do it or 0:25:18.619 --> 0:25:20.800 can't accept that he has those feelings. 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.620 He tries to pretend he wasn't close to Fiona. But 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:26.560 we know because we were in the moment that he's 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.100 horrified and he's so upset because they had just had 0:25:29.140 --> 0:25:32.220 that true human connection where he called somebody like a 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.000 talkative little shite or something and she got really excited. 0:25:36.020 --> 0:25:38.879 Yeah, and he was just kind of kneeling over her 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.100 body for a long time. Like it's clear that he 0:25:41.140 --> 0:25:44.910 feels something. And then Viz is like, listen, we gotta 0:25:44.930 --> 0:25:49.189 figure out who's hunting us. Okay? I don't think with 0:25:49.230 --> 0:25:52.290 all due respect, he looks at his AIs and he's like, 0:25:52.330 --> 0:25:54.800 I don't think we're trained. You guys are trained to 0:25:54.859 --> 0:25:56.359 help me with that. I need to talk to a 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.439 predator and so you know what that means. Dummy and 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:04.399 you bring Ultron down from his room. And basically it's 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.340 time to be like, hey, you're like a supervillain. 0:26:07.740 --> 0:26:08.139 We love you. 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.560 What would you do in this situation? Ultron kind of 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.700 gives some cryptic advice and makes some take some veiled 0:26:13.780 --> 0:26:19.139 shots at the other AIs. And meanwhile, Vision, who is conflicted, 0:26:19.220 --> 0:26:22.620 is like, maybe it's best to just go shut down. Like, 0:26:22.660 --> 0:26:25.810 go into a cave somewhere and just shut down for 0:26:26.790 --> 0:26:31.109 an indeterminate period to avoid further casualties. You know, who knows? 0:26:31.590 --> 0:26:36.800 And the AIs are actually split on this. Friday, who, recall, 0:26:36.859 --> 0:26:38.939 was with Tony during Civil War. 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:39.660 Mm-hmm. 0:26:40.470 --> 0:26:44.390 Is for it. And Jarvis is against it. Jarvis is like, 0:26:44.450 --> 0:26:46.530 why don't we find help? Reach out to Banner. Reach 0:26:46.570 --> 0:26:49.490 out to one of the ex-Avengers and you could figure out. 0:26:49.260 --> 0:26:49.600 What to do. 0:26:49.980 --> 0:26:53.580 Edith is like, no, go on the run and just 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.280 become different people all the time and just run. Ultron 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.760 is like, That's actually a good idea. You should go 0:27:00.859 --> 0:27:03.960 out into the world, see this as an opportunity to 0:27:04.250 --> 0:27:07.689 do your mission that you've been on, which is to 0:27:07.730 --> 0:27:11.170 learn more about humanity. And what better way to learn 0:27:11.210 --> 0:27:14.590 about being alive than running for your life? Which is 0:27:14.650 --> 0:27:16.610 weird advice, but it makes sense, I think. 0:27:17.050 --> 0:27:20.399 I think also the point is like Vision doesn't feel anything. 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.240 So can you do something really extreme to make him 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.200 feel this? That's right. 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.560 And then Vision is like, well... What can you tell me, Ultron, 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:34.040 about being hunted or hunting someone? Ultron's like, oh, look 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:34.860 at that. I got to go. 0:27:34.900 --> 0:27:36.859 Oh, time to go upstairs. Time to go upstairs. 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.300 And it's then that Vision realizes that Ultron has played 0:27:40.340 --> 0:27:42.409 some sort of role in this. And Ultron admits it. 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.379 He's like, listen, I was on the dark web. I've 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.040 been sneaking out of your body and searching the web. 0:27:48.060 --> 0:27:48.500 Chilling. 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.119 Chilling out in the web. And I learned that somebody 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.960 hired the paladin to find you. Because you contain all 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.810 these priceless, stark AIs and all the stark tech, and 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:06.470 your whole mind is very, very valuable. And while I'm 0:28:06.510 --> 0:28:09.640 not the person that hired the Paladin, I did leak information. 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.420 your location to the power. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:13.240 Bad dad. 0:28:13.940 --> 0:28:17.000 Yeah, and it was my way of pushing you out 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.600 of the nest, basically, he says. Vision is, of course, 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.560 very pissed. And he's like, listen, maybe I was wrong 0:28:22.580 --> 0:28:26.010 about you. Maybe you're just trash data, like a barnacle 0:28:26.109 --> 0:28:29.010 on my hull, and I should just scrape you off 0:28:29.050 --> 0:28:32.290 and delete you. And he's like, gonna do it, but 0:28:32.310 --> 0:28:35.929 he also can't do it. It's clear, and if it 0:28:35.970 --> 0:28:40.110 wasn't clear from him saving Vision, Ultron's life after Sokovia, 0:28:40.130 --> 0:28:45.140 that Vision, whatever their relationship appears. 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.200 To be- Complicated. 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.420 He feels a deep connection with Ultron, who is his father, 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.390 and can't bring himself to delete Ultron. He just can't. 0:28:56.250 --> 0:28:58.750 And so instead, he's like, I'm going to give you 0:28:58.810 --> 0:29:02.070 a punishment worse than deletion. Basically, I'm grounding you. 0:29:04.050 --> 0:29:04.650 It's boredom. 0:29:04.690 --> 0:29:07.490 Like I'm cutting off TV. I'm cutting off like all 0:29:07.650 --> 0:29:10.180 inputs to your little room and that's it. You're trapped 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:15.780 in your room. Meanwhile, Paladin and Kunk are going through 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.880 the pub and they see that Vision was going under 0:29:18.900 --> 0:29:23.760 the name Sherwood Ellis. So Paladin is like, Kunk, Philomena, Kunk, 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.200 look up everything on Sherwood Ellis and they come up 0:29:26.300 --> 0:29:28.020 with the street in Westview. 0:29:28.140 --> 0:29:29.260 Yes, it is a. 0:29:29.300 --> 0:29:33.650 Crossroads that we see a lot in WandaVision. It's really emotional. 0:29:33.770 --> 0:29:36.710 I love that they use this. Again, if you love WandaVision, 0:29:36.750 --> 0:29:37.150 you will. 0:29:37.050 --> 0:29:38.830 Love this show. Absolutely. 0:29:38.970 --> 0:29:42.360 So Kunk immediately. is like, oh, it seems like there 0:29:42.420 --> 0:29:46.680 is an Avengers training mishap in Westview, New Jersey, and 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:51.770 Paladin's like, immediately, that's fake. That's a cover-up. That's bullshit. 0:29:52.330 --> 0:29:56.990 And so, you know, they keep digging, and Kunk quickly... 0:29:57.250 --> 0:30:01.070 uncovers somewhere on the internet, like the archive of the 0:30:01.170 --> 0:30:03.150 fake TV broadcasts from inside the hats. 0:30:03.170 --> 0:30:06.160 I think she hacks into the sword files. She's just like, yeah, 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.540 she does. She's like, there's a firewall, but I already 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:09.680 got through it or something. 0:30:09.740 --> 0:30:12.200 And then there's kind of, and she manages to get these, yeah, 0:30:12.220 --> 0:30:14.600 these TV broadcasts, the ones that Darcy watched and that 0:30:14.620 --> 0:30:15.640 we watched, you know, to a point. 0:30:15.660 --> 0:30:16.570 And then we watched it. 0:30:16.580 --> 0:30:16.760 Yeah. 0:30:16.820 --> 0:30:18.840 And it's all the stuff, you know, it's all the 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:24.660 different eras. And he learns, Paladin learns that, um, Inside 0:30:24.700 --> 0:30:28.090 the Hex, Hex version of Vision had a whole family 0:30:28.130 --> 0:30:30.670 with two kids, two boys, Billy and Tommy. And so 0:30:30.730 --> 0:30:36.250 Paladin is like, you know what? I know something about 0:30:36.430 --> 0:30:41.140 Hex magic. Because we will discover later that Paladin, despite 0:30:41.180 --> 0:30:46.130 being a C-level villain... has kind of mixed it up 0:30:46.790 --> 0:30:51.150 with a lot of different superhero types and people from 0:30:51.210 --> 0:30:54.810 around the Marvel Universe, and also as a legacy character, 0:30:54.970 --> 0:30:58.590 as the inheritor, like a Dread Pirate Roberts kind of way, 0:30:59.010 --> 0:31:02.500 of all the knowledge of the previous Paladins, kind of 0:31:02.540 --> 0:31:04.560 knows a little bit about magic. And he's like, you know, 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.720 one thing I know about hex magic is when a 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.950 person created... by hex magic disappears. 0:31:11.990 --> 0:31:16.090 They don't fully go away. So he begins looking for. 0:31:15.770 --> 0:31:20.700 Something's left behind. So he begins looking for, you know, like, um, uh, 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:26.380 a young person who much like Billy in Agatha is 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.560 claiming to be somebody else or believes they themselves to 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.820 be somebody else. And we go to London and we 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.980 meet this young man who has found a stolen watch. 0:31:36.060 --> 0:31:38.160 He goes into a pub. He's like, anybody find this watch? 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.600 And this woman there is like, oh my God, that's, 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.380 talks to the guy. 0:31:42.420 --> 0:31:45.979 It's like a 10K watch. It's like a 10,000 pound watch. 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.340 And so they, these two cook up a scheme to 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.320 like get the watch off the guy and they start 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.720 a bidding war. And she's like, you know, I'll buy 0:31:53.770 --> 0:31:56.830 it from you for 75 quid. And then the guy's like, no, 0:31:57.090 --> 0:31:59.360 I'll take it for 250. And so Thomas sells it. 0:31:59.410 --> 0:32:04.090 And it turns out that the young man, Thomas, and 0:32:04.110 --> 0:32:07.130 this girl, Lisa, are in it together. They just scam 0:32:07.150 --> 0:32:09.000 that guy. Yeah. 0:32:09.060 --> 0:32:09.600 We love him. 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.620 Rep Scallion, Oliver Twist-ass type vibes. 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.760 So he's doing, he does like some Oliver Twist-type sleight 0:32:16.780 --> 0:32:20.430 of hand to give her her cut. And she is like, wow, 0:32:20.450 --> 0:32:23.970 you're really good at close-up magic. He makes some kind 0:32:24.450 --> 0:32:29.740 of cryptic statements about not being the real him. And 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.420 they go through this like little rigmarole that's clear that 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.890 they've been working out about pretending to be other people 0:32:35.330 --> 0:32:38.710 when they are interrupted by news on TV about what 0:32:38.770 --> 0:32:42.910 happened in Edinburgh and the white vision has reappeared. And 0:32:43.030 --> 0:32:46.210 Tommy begins having these memory flashes of the white vision, 0:32:46.270 --> 0:32:48.820 also the red vision and stuff that happened inside Westview. 0:32:49.540 --> 0:32:52.000 And all of a sudden they realize the guy they 0:32:52.020 --> 0:32:55.100 scammed and his friends are chasing them. So they run 0:32:55.140 --> 0:32:58.180 for it. They do escape, but Tommy is kind of 0:32:58.300 --> 0:33:00.979 cracking up a little bit because of this vision news. 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.480 And Lisa calms him down by, again, doing this kind 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.370 of role play. It's like, okay, who are you? You're 0:33:07.410 --> 0:33:09.209 coming from rugby practice. 0:33:09.390 --> 0:33:12.270 Yeah, you could be anyone. You could be anyone. 0:33:12.290 --> 0:33:14.350 This is obviously a theme, this idea of choosing your 0:33:14.390 --> 0:33:17.490 own identity, being the person you need to be, etc. 0:33:18.350 --> 0:33:20.840 But before she can calm him all the way down, 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.660 the paladin shows up and kidnaps Tommy and they disappear. 0:33:25.370 --> 0:33:32.320 Paladin has Kunk use secret sword frequencies to broadcast directly 0:33:32.420 --> 0:33:37.280 to Vision, which appears inside Vision's memory palaces like blinking 0:33:37.340 --> 0:33:40.040 lights that they then decode. So they open up the 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.219 firewall and Vision goes to the top floor of his 0:33:43.260 --> 0:33:47.500 memory palace. And he and Ultron together watch Paladin's message, 0:33:47.540 --> 0:33:49.620 which appears in the sky above the house. And it 0:33:49.660 --> 0:33:54.330 basically says, hey, your son from inside the Hex his 0:33:54.510 --> 0:33:57.380 soul switched bodies with this guy. So now this guy 0:33:57.420 --> 0:33:58.920 is your son and I have your son. So what 0:33:58.980 --> 0:34:00.740 are you going to do about it? And that is 0:34:00.780 --> 0:34:02.110 the end of episode one. 0:34:02.370 --> 0:34:07.550 And immediately I'm thinking this show is good. What the heck? 0:34:07.710 --> 0:34:10.170 The kid they played, I believe his name's Rory, the 0:34:10.190 --> 0:34:13.710 kid who plays the recast version of older. 0:34:13.430 --> 0:34:17.190 Tommy here, the emotion that they get out of him 0:34:17.250 --> 0:34:21.879 in the scene that they flash here, the psychiatric evaluation 0:34:22.340 --> 0:34:24.920 where he's trying to explain his family and how his 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.040 dad is a machine and he looked like a devil. 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.120 This is heart-rending good acting. This shit is not camp. 0:34:31.260 --> 0:34:34.160 This is fucking legit when it needs to be. But 0:34:34.180 --> 0:34:37.380 the stuff in the Vision Mind Palace with James Spader 0:34:37.420 --> 0:34:38.700 is so good. Oh, I love it. 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.260 And also, Jason, obviously, you know, we will have more 0:34:42.340 --> 0:34:45.090 on this as we head into the recap of Episode 0:34:45.090 --> 0:34:46.549 2 and our full theories at the end. 0:34:46.860 --> 0:34:48.529 But I think they're having a lot of fun, too, 0:34:48.570 --> 0:34:51.850 with this who hired Paladin. Like, is it Ultron? There's 0:34:51.890 --> 0:34:54.589 a voice modulator. Could it be him? 0:34:54.650 --> 0:34:57.910 Could it be a different AI like Jocasta? Like, we'll 0:34:57.950 --> 0:34:58.750 get into more theories. 0:34:58.770 --> 0:34:59.210 Who could it be? 0:34:59.969 --> 0:35:02.109 But yeah, I just think that they're having so much 0:35:02.150 --> 0:35:06.549 fun playing with it. And it's really enjoyable to kind 0:35:06.590 --> 0:35:09.110 of start working out where this could go. 0:35:09.870 --> 0:35:11.609 Let's take a break and then we will go to 0:35:11.750 --> 0:35:32.110 episode two. So And we're back with episode two of 0:35:32.570 --> 0:35:37.100 Vision Quest Theseus. We opened one year ago. We see 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:44.460 Thomas Shepard's police interrogation file in which he basically describes 0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:51.910 what we understand to be the cosmic hex-powered switching of souls. 0:35:51.670 --> 0:35:54.230 Into the body that he now inhabits. So if. 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.390 What happened to Billy also happened to Thomas. His body, 0:35:59.830 --> 0:36:03.750 whoever inhabited his body before him, died. And in that moment, 0:36:04.830 --> 0:36:05.750 the hex soul of. 0:36:05.790 --> 0:36:06.330 No, no, no. 0:36:06.430 --> 0:36:10.230 So I think specifically here, they are playing with the 0:36:10.270 --> 0:36:13.230 fact that it seems like he didn't die. 0:36:13.250 --> 0:36:17.180 I think in this case, Tommy kept both his. 0:36:17.950 --> 0:36:20.850 memories so he has both memories yeah he does william 0:36:20.930 --> 0:36:23.950 caplan i think is more like he knows he died 0:36:24.550 --> 0:36:27.520 and he had amnesia it feels like thomas is like 0:36:27.580 --> 0:36:30.600 my parents abandoned me my foster family it's almost like 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.799 the soul ended up in his body maybe because she 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.860 could sense his parents just were like abandoned him or 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.739 whatever but i don't think that i think it's the 0:36:39.780 --> 0:36:41.870 same law but i don't think he died that's the 0:36:41.910 --> 0:36:44.750 difference which is why he's great you know inverted commas 0:36:44.770 --> 0:36:48.279 being seen as crazy Right, because he keeps going on 0:36:48.300 --> 0:36:50.779 and on about having two lives. 0:36:50.820 --> 0:36:52.700 I was me and I wasn't me. 0:36:52.820 --> 0:36:54.400 I was me and I wasn't me, and how can 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.060 I be feeling like this? They end up putting him 0:36:58.140 --> 0:37:01.040 on a bus, basically, the police put him on a 0:37:01.060 --> 0:37:04.259 bus to take him to what we will discover is 0:37:04.300 --> 0:37:06.879 like a sanitarium, like a mental health facility, but like 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.180 a secure mental health facility. 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.430 Where you never leave, and it clearly has bad reputation 0:37:11.930 --> 0:37:13.129 in the community. 0:37:13.910 --> 0:37:17.360 So he ends up sitting next to, This girl who 0:37:17.380 --> 0:37:19.980 we understand will later is Lisa, who will be his 0:37:20.020 --> 0:37:23.420 partner in crime. He's having these memory flashes that he 0:37:23.460 --> 0:37:28.170 doesn't understand again about the, from inside Westview vision, the 0:37:28.210 --> 0:37:32.430 white vision also. And, you know, he's, he's kind of 0:37:32.489 --> 0:37:35.669 freaking out, but Lisa really calms him down, calms him down. 0:37:35.710 --> 0:37:38.710 And we see here the beginning of their relationship and 0:37:38.750 --> 0:37:41.469 their chemistry, which is like these invented, you can be 0:37:41.530 --> 0:37:43.609 anybody who you want to be. Tell me who you are. 0:37:43.690 --> 0:37:46.270 And she's not interested in the truth, but like, She's 0:37:46.310 --> 0:37:49.890 interested in him just calming himself down by just inventing 0:37:49.950 --> 0:37:50.610 a backstory. 0:37:50.810 --> 0:37:51.090 Yeah. 0:37:51.510 --> 0:37:54.509 And she tells him that, you know, she was a pickpocket. 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.060 And clearly they're getting along. Later, he wakes up on 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.460 the bus. There is this very brutal guard on the 0:38:02.500 --> 0:38:07.920 bus who you might remember as Dollars Ed. Ed from 0:38:07.940 --> 0:38:10.440 the Night's Watch from Game of Thrones. This is the 0:38:10.580 --> 0:38:11.580 actor Ben Crompton. 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:12.360 Mm-hmm. 0:38:13.739 --> 0:38:16.730 Scariest ever, yeah. He's just fucking... He's terrible as shit. 0:38:16.830 --> 0:38:19.370 He's telling them, you're all going to St. Maven Sanitarium. 0:38:19.390 --> 0:38:21.970 You're never coming out. Like, it's going to be terrible 0:38:22.010 --> 0:38:25.780 for you. Nobody's going to remember you. Don't fucking talk 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:27.980 shit or I'm going to tase you. And so then 0:38:28.020 --> 0:38:30.440 he begins tasing this one guy who's kind of can't 0:38:30.460 --> 0:38:34.190 keep it together. And then he tases Tommy. And then Tommy's, 0:38:34.610 --> 0:38:37.410 whatever Tommy's powers are, which we're not sure of what 0:38:37.450 --> 0:38:38.350 they are currently. 0:38:38.370 --> 0:38:40.980 No, but it looks more like, my assumption is they're 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:41.860 going with the more. 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.700 Modern kind of like time control powers. And my idea 0:38:45.739 --> 0:38:48.779 would be that he basically reversed the power back into him, 0:38:48.820 --> 0:38:49.760 but he doesn't know. 0:38:49.860 --> 0:38:50.560 It's not in control. 0:38:50.580 --> 0:38:51.219 We don't know. 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.250 We just see it go back and it kind of 0:38:53.350 --> 0:38:56.149 shocks him with this almost Scarlet Witch-like. 0:38:57.170 --> 0:39:01.390 Harry Potter on his neck kind of scar. 0:39:01.910 --> 0:39:03.509 Also, guys, I do want to say, if you're a 0:39:03.530 --> 0:39:06.110 fan of an Easter egg, Saint Mabin's is from the 0:39:06.150 --> 0:39:09.830 comics and hilariously is from the Iron Fist comics. It 0:39:09.870 --> 0:39:13.050 appeared in Iron Fist number three from November 75. But 0:39:13.140 --> 0:39:17.560 it's Chris Claremont and John Byrne, obviously X-Men legends. And interestingly, 0:39:18.020 --> 0:39:20.020 it was most famously.... 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:21.760 There for treating Misty Knight. 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.759 So I feel like they kind of nodded to the 0:39:23.860 --> 0:39:26.509 other Marvel TV history here with that connection. 0:39:27.070 --> 0:39:29.630 But yeah, I mean, this is such a brutal scene. 0:39:29.650 --> 0:39:32.860 I really like when Marvel and superhero stories kind of 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.180 try and talk about this, like the brutalized underdog. Also, 0:39:36.500 --> 0:39:39.430 from the response everyone on the bus is having, you 0:39:39.489 --> 0:39:40.710 can't help but think X-Men. 0:39:40.750 --> 0:39:43.310 You can't help but think Weapon X. We are in 0:39:43.370 --> 0:39:44.670 a militarized. 0:39:44.790 --> 0:39:48.410 Weaponized time here. where for whatever reason, it's just becoming 0:39:48.450 --> 0:39:51.969 more acceptable to institutionalize people, whether it's for the DODC 0:39:52.030 --> 0:39:53.720 or whether it is in this case, because they are, 0:39:53.780 --> 0:39:56.160 you know, crazy or whatever they call it. It's a 0:39:56.219 --> 0:39:59.640 really interesting new paradigm and very different to see it 0:39:59.700 --> 0:40:01.719 in London, too. We haven't really gotten to see a 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.680 lot of how superhero life affects Londoners, you know, and 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.090 this is a very much like depressing kind of bleak 0:40:08.430 --> 0:40:09.970 Ken Burns realism London. 0:40:10.010 --> 0:40:11.830 And I like it. I like it, honestly. 0:40:11.850 --> 0:40:15.820 Yeah. So they make, Lisa and Tommy make their escape. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:22.630 Tommy uses his power set to either vibrate or reverse 0:40:22.690 --> 0:40:26.050 time bolts, reverse the bolts out of the door. 0:40:26.270 --> 0:40:26.910 I'll be real. 0:40:27.110 --> 0:40:29.649 I think what they're doing here, I think that this 0:40:29.710 --> 0:40:32.270 is a vision power. I think he got this from 0:40:32.310 --> 0:40:35.450 his dad and what he's actually doing is changing. He's 0:40:35.550 --> 0:40:38.890 shaking the, like vibrating the molecules, right? And they go 0:40:38.950 --> 0:40:41.610 red because the power is like his mom's power. But 0:40:41.630 --> 0:40:44.049 when I saw it, I was like, wait, how would 0:40:44.070 --> 0:40:46.030 he be doing that? And it was a different color 0:40:46.070 --> 0:40:48.770 than when he used his other power. I was like, wow, 0:40:48.810 --> 0:40:50.950 maybe they're going to give the kids powers from both 0:40:51.010 --> 0:40:53.980 of them. Because in this version, they've manifested into these 0:40:54.700 --> 0:40:57.580 real humans. uh yeah and then you get this I 0:40:57.620 --> 0:40:59.440 love that idea I loved it so much and I 0:40:59.460 --> 0:41:01.940 was getting so excited because this moment really reminded me 0:41:01.980 --> 0:41:04.480 of the end of Logan when the kids the new 0:41:04.500 --> 0:41:07.029 mutant kids like make it and they kind of have 0:41:07.070 --> 0:41:08.890 this great moment where the two of them hold hands 0:41:08.950 --> 0:41:11.790 and just like run away and you just really love 0:41:11.989 --> 0:41:16.450 the story of Lisa and uh I mean Tommy they 0:41:16.469 --> 0:41:18.890 make you really feel care about these characters with like 0:41:18.930 --> 0:41:21.410 a five minute sequence which I think is very well done. 0:41:22.450 --> 0:41:26.799 So we go to the electronic shop, which we see 0:41:27.260 --> 0:41:32.420 called Roy's Ultimate Electronic Shop. And it's, in my mind, 0:41:32.460 --> 0:41:35.340 a clear reference to Roy Thomas, who is one of 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.319 the key creators behind the Vision. And Vision is in 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:39.520 his mind palace. 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:40.839 They are. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.180 watching the Paladins broadcast still and talking about it, Vig 0:41:45.219 --> 0:41:49.040 is now blaming Ultron. It's like, you know, you got 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.020 this kid wrapped up in this. Like, this is your 0:41:52.140 --> 0:41:58.200 fucking fault. If you hadn't broadcast my location to the Paladin, 0:41:58.820 --> 0:42:01.890 this poor young kid would never have been, like. 0:42:01.969 --> 0:42:03.149 Wrapped up in this whole thing. 0:42:03.870 --> 0:42:07.880 And... And Ultron is like, listen, what did you expect? 0:42:07.900 --> 0:42:09.840 Did you really think the world was just going to 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:14.420 forget about you? Like somebody, someone did pay the Paladin 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.680 to find you. Yes, I leaked your location, but that 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.540 was ongoing. So you need to like get with reality 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.340 and realize that you can't just like skate unseen through 0:42:23.380 --> 0:42:27.489 the world anymore. We go to, you know, Vig and 0:42:27.530 --> 0:42:30.430 the AIs basically research the Paladin and we get this 0:42:30.489 --> 0:42:34.450 wonderful download about the Paladin and He is just the 0:42:34.510 --> 0:42:38.930 most recent in a long line of mercenaries for hire 0:42:38.989 --> 0:42:42.600 who have been called the paladin. And, you know, he's 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.239 very good at his job. And he's got this kind 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.660 of like almost like John Wick kind of quality to 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.080 his contracts where it's like once you contract him to 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:52.880 do something. 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:54.350 He's gonna do it. 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.940 He's gonna do it. The contract is like fucking unbreakable. 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:02.180 Like he has to do it. And he usually does. 0:43:02.730 --> 0:43:06.350 So we see the paladin now deliver Tommy to St. Maven's, 0:43:06.489 --> 0:43:09.089 where he was originally supposed to go like a year ago. 0:43:09.170 --> 0:43:12.610 And the guard, the brutal guard is in the lobby there. 0:43:12.690 --> 0:43:14.470 And he's like, oh my God, that kid who escaped 0:43:14.510 --> 0:43:19.330 in the paladin kills him. And meanwhile, Jarvis is showing 0:43:19.550 --> 0:43:23.350 Vision Tommy's interrogation tape from a year ago, in which 0:43:23.410 --> 0:43:27.920 he talks about Westview, in which he talks about this man, 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.880 this red faced man with kind eyes, who's also somehow demonic, 0:43:31.900 --> 0:43:33.259 who is clearly he's talking. 0:43:32.980 --> 0:43:34.890 About red face demon. 0:43:34.950 --> 0:43:37.710 And it's clear he's talking about the hex version of 0:43:37.750 --> 0:43:38.290 the vision. 0:43:38.310 --> 0:43:40.109 My son. And yeah. 0:43:40.150 --> 0:43:41.830 And he's like, he wasn't human, but he called me 0:43:41.870 --> 0:43:45.700 his son. And, you know, it's like ranting and raving. 0:43:46.500 --> 0:43:50.919 And Vision realizes that okay, this guy is... Whoever this 0:43:51.219 --> 0:43:54.160 person Thomas is, he's telling the truth. Like, those are 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.160 the real memories that he has about Westview somehow. And 0:43:58.219 --> 0:44:01.009 Ultron is like, listen, here's how it works. There is 0:44:01.030 --> 0:44:07.430 this thing called hex magic. And... When people are created 0:44:07.810 --> 0:44:11.509 inside the hex verse, inside the hex magic, they are 0:44:11.690 --> 0:44:14.109 completely real and they also have a soul. And when 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.660 the body is destroyed, the soul looks for some place 0:44:16.700 --> 0:44:18.919 to go and it transfers and it must have transferred. 0:44:18.580 --> 0:44:18.960 To this guy. 0:44:18.980 --> 0:44:20.319 And Vision's like, get the fuck out of here. 0:44:20.340 --> 0:44:21.739 Vision's like, shut the fuck up. 0:44:21.739 --> 0:44:22.980 What are you talking about? 0:44:23.219 --> 0:44:26.069 This is a scam. You probably planned this. You hired 0:44:26.090 --> 0:44:29.830 this kid. Yeah. This is all you. 0:44:29.910 --> 0:44:33.040 And he's like, no. it's a hundred percent is real. 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.480 This is really what happened. And then Friday breaks in 0:44:35.500 --> 0:44:37.739 and it's like, well, we have to figure out like 0:44:37.780 --> 0:44:40.880 who hired this guy. Is it sword? You know, is 0:44:40.940 --> 0:44:43.880 it someone else? She plays a snippet in which Tommy 0:44:44.390 --> 0:44:48.009 talks about Wanda and the songs she used to sing 0:44:48.050 --> 0:44:51.750 to him and how she had, you know, she was beautiful, 0:44:51.790 --> 0:44:55.530 but she had these really sad eyes and so much pain. 0:44:56.030 --> 0:44:59.660 And that she once said to him, grief is just 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:04.810 love persevering. And Vision realizes, holy shit, Ultron is right. 0:45:08.190 --> 0:45:11.890 It has to be my son or my hex version 0:45:11.930 --> 0:45:15.049 of myself's son from inside the hex. It must be. 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.439 So Jarvis figures out that there are coordinates hidden inside 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.500 Paladin's broadcast. And clearly it's an invitation to a trap 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:27.969 of some kind. So White Vision comes back online. He 0:45:28.010 --> 0:45:31.400 goes back to the pub. which is where the coordinates 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.410 led him to, and Paladin is there. And Vision is like, listen, buddy, 0:45:35.630 --> 0:45:37.270 I don't know who the fuck you think you are, 0:45:37.989 --> 0:45:41.009 but you're just a man, and I have simulated, like, 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:48.040 billions of simulations of this or something so many he. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.560 Just quotes what the guy's saying just back at him verbatim. 0:45:51.060 --> 0:45:54.029 Before he can say it right yeah and he's like 0:45:54.070 --> 0:45:57.690 listen i know exactly what you're gonna say okay because 0:45:57.770 --> 0:46:01.390 i've worked it all out so you're not gonna throw 0:46:01.430 --> 0:46:05.020 me off balance with this kind of emotional manipulation you 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.259 have my son yada yada i don't care about that 0:46:07.820 --> 0:46:08.980 I don't have a son. 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:14.259 That was some other guy. Fake guy. I don't feel. 0:46:14.700 --> 0:46:18.739 I don't feel, he says. And I know all about 0:46:18.780 --> 0:46:20.890 the kid. I don't care. 0:46:21.550 --> 0:46:26.190 And Paladin's like, well, we'll see about that, okay? Because 0:46:26.770 --> 0:46:31.270 whatever you think, Mr. Science, there's a whole lot more 0:46:31.330 --> 0:46:34.580 to the universe than than science, there's magic and all 0:46:34.620 --> 0:46:37.800 types of shit. My favorite line delivery from him, he says, 0:46:38.140 --> 0:46:38.870 there's wizards. 0:46:38.950 --> 0:46:44.450 And then he goes, and witches. Witches. Wizards and witches 0:46:44.550 --> 0:46:49.630 and monsters. He's like, yes, eat it up, soap opera daddy. Witches. 0:46:50.010 --> 0:46:50.730 So let's talk. 0:46:50.610 --> 0:46:52.830 About Todd Stashwick, who plays the paladin. 0:46:53.130 --> 0:46:57.230 His name is perfect. He looks like Stashwick. That looks 0:46:57.270 --> 0:46:57.930 like his name. 0:46:58.830 --> 0:47:07.250 Ever since Frank Grillo... Marvel has loved to find villains 0:47:07.469 --> 0:47:10.969 that seeming... I don't know Mr. Stashwick's bio, but he 0:47:11.050 --> 0:47:13.370 feels like a soap opera guy. No disrespect. That's a 0:47:13.370 --> 0:47:14.350 great way to make a living. 0:47:14.370 --> 0:47:15.009 That's a good job, baby. 0:47:16.010 --> 0:47:18.200 But it feels like they're reaching down. They're like, let's 0:47:18.260 --> 0:47:22.299 find these other guys. And it's like the same thing 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.980 they did with the Swordsman in Born Again. Yes, we 0:47:26.020 --> 0:47:26.339 love him. 0:47:26.820 --> 0:47:27.980 And Hawkeye. 0:47:28.780 --> 0:47:30.640 The same thing they did with Grillo and now the 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:34.800 same thing they did with the Paladin. I'm waiting for 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.980 the Paladin to develop a little more juice. He's very 0:47:38.140 --> 0:47:39.760 kind of like straight up and down. 0:47:39.940 --> 0:47:40.680 He is right now. 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.460 Maybe he will develop a little bit more juice at 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.220 a certain point. I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.390 saying I, Look at those other guys, whether it's Grillo 0:47:49.070 --> 0:47:51.150 or the Swordsman, and they all have jukes. 0:47:51.550 --> 0:47:54.529 He is a TV stalwart, baby. This man has been 0:47:54.570 --> 0:47:56.940 in more shows than you could believe. And Jason, guess what? 0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:00.819 He was in Children's Hospital. Correct. He has been in 0:48:00.860 --> 0:48:03.640 Crime Scene Investigation. He has been in Law and Order 0:48:03.660 --> 0:48:06.160 Criminal Intent. He's been in Malcolm in the Middle. He's 0:48:06.180 --> 0:48:08.700 been in Along Came Polly. He's been in CSI New York. 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.270 This is a working actor, guys. He has been in 0:48:11.290 --> 0:48:11.810 Curb Your Enthusiasm. 0:48:11.850 --> 0:48:12.469 I love this guy. 0:48:12.950 --> 0:48:17.370 Justified, Hawaii Five-0, Grey's Anatomy, Warehouse 13. This is just 0:48:17.390 --> 0:48:20.029 a few of his many credits you can read on IMDb. 0:48:20.290 --> 0:48:23.640 Tom and Jerry, back to Oz. He voiced the Cowardly Lion. 0:48:23.969 --> 0:48:26.880 He's doing some, he did SWAT. He also did American 0:48:26.940 --> 0:48:29.920 Horror Story. He has been in, yeah, this was like 0:48:29.980 --> 0:48:33.310 a working man, bro. He was in The Accountant 2. 0:48:33.300 --> 0:48:36.480 He also played Phineas and Ferb. Multiple voices in Phineas 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:36.890 and Ferb. 0:48:36.969 --> 0:48:37.950 Phineas and Ferb? 0:48:38.030 --> 0:48:40.690 Yeah, this man is a Disney Star Wars voice actor. 0:48:40.710 --> 0:48:41.250 Shouts to Mr. 0:48:41.270 --> 0:48:42.130 Skashwick. 0:48:42.150 --> 0:48:46.670 He's been doing some podcasts, some narrative podcasts. But yeah, Jason, definitely, 0:48:46.810 --> 0:48:49.980 they said, hey, come working actor, be in this show. 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:50.460 Come get it. 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.620 And we are happy because then he said, witches. Witches. Witches. 0:49:10.390 --> 0:49:14.009 So Paladin then lays out, he's like, listen, okay, you 0:49:14.050 --> 0:49:16.950 don't care about Tommy, but listen, here's my theory of Tommy. 0:49:16.989 --> 0:49:18.989 And he basically lays out the same thing as Ultron did. 0:49:19.010 --> 0:49:19.790 Which is right. 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:25.280 The Hex was destroyed and the soul of the Hex, Tommy, 0:49:25.380 --> 0:49:29.060 went into this guy and that's your son. And Paladin 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:32.180 then says, listen, you say you don't care about him, fine. 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.779 But if you don't come with me, I'm going to 0:49:36.820 --> 0:49:41.350 leave Tommy in that sanatorium and They're going to do 0:49:41.410 --> 0:49:44.910 crazy electroshock treatments on him. They're going to pump him 0:49:44.989 --> 0:49:48.000 full of all kinds of drugs. And by the end 0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.640 of it, whatever he is now will be gone because 0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.880 his mind will be totally erased by the brutality of St. Maven's. 0:49:55.540 --> 0:49:59.879 And Viz is like, listen, I don't care about that. 0:49:59.920 --> 0:50:02.839 You don't understand. You're talking the old me's language. The 0:50:02.900 --> 0:50:10.190 new me... Doesn't care and has a very poor opinion 0:50:10.330 --> 0:50:16.470 of humankind. And you're proving to me how awful they are. Yeah, 0:50:16.510 --> 0:50:19.489 mankind is just awful and only wants to destroy. And 0:50:19.530 --> 0:50:22.239 he sounds very much like Ultron, it should say. And 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:27.620 then he grabs Paladin by the neck and holds him 0:50:27.700 --> 0:50:32.710 up and is choking him and says, I am not visioned. 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.870 And Paladin says, poor Tommy. And then Vision throws him 0:50:36.930 --> 0:50:41.210 across the room. Meanwhile, Kunk's computers are getting hacked again. 0:50:41.230 --> 0:50:45.049 Yeah, whoever this is, again, hinting towards an Ultron or 0:50:45.090 --> 0:50:48.049 an AI, because they are hacking at all times. And 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.500 Paladin seems surprised. Like, this is not something that happens 0:50:51.580 --> 0:50:51.900 a lot. 0:50:52.820 --> 0:50:55.700 So the client, whoever the client is, it's clear the 0:50:55.739 --> 0:50:59.160 client is watching all the stuff that Paladin is doing 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:05.510 all the time. Because they call in immediately, hack in, whatever, 0:51:05.630 --> 0:51:09.990 immediately after Paladin gets thrown across the bar and is like, listen, 0:51:10.250 --> 0:51:13.210 I'm losing confidence in this fucking guy. Like, can you 0:51:13.250 --> 0:51:14.770 do it? I don't believe you can do it. And 0:51:14.790 --> 0:51:17.410 Paladin's like, listen, I'm going to get it done. I 0:51:18.030 --> 0:51:22.939 have an unbreakable contract. Just shut up and sit tight. 0:51:23.219 --> 0:51:23.379 Yeah. 0:51:23.420 --> 0:51:25.960 We go to the Mind Palace. Ultron's up in his 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:27.260 room watching true crime. 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:27.340 Ha! 0:51:28.380 --> 0:51:30.339 He's apparently a true crime junkie now. 0:51:30.460 --> 0:51:30.720 Yes. 0:51:31.180 --> 0:51:35.260 And Vision comes up and again is like, I'm not Vision. 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:39.030 Why is this happening? Like, this is your fault. Ultron 0:51:39.070 --> 0:51:43.330 is like, well, who are you? And this is the 0:51:43.370 --> 0:51:45.850 whole thing with Vision is he's so confused about who 0:51:45.910 --> 0:51:48.230 he really is. He feels the weight of all these 0:51:48.350 --> 0:51:52.480 memories that aren't his. And he lacks the ability or 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.660 thinks he does to understand how to feel about them. 0:51:56.260 --> 0:51:59.280 And then Ultra and then Monologues, listen, much like Lisa 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.740 says to Thomas. Yes, exactly. 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:04.819 I love this writing. I love this echo. 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:08.900 I know, it's so good. It's like, listen, identity is plastic. 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.240 You can be anybody you want. Who do you want 0:52:11.260 --> 0:52:13.120 to be? Who do you want to be right now 0:52:13.180 --> 0:52:17.220 based on everything that's come before? And Vision is like, listen, 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.180 I just want to feel like I understand what it 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.049 was like to be the other versions of me, but 0:52:26.110 --> 0:52:28.239 I can't. And then they talk about, you know, the 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:32.200 last time I talked to the hex version of myself, 0:52:32.340 --> 0:52:35.150 the one time we talked about the ship of Theseus 0:52:35.530 --> 0:52:39.310 and Ultron is like, the ship of Theseus thing is bullshit. 0:52:39.870 --> 0:52:44.790 The whole thought experiment is like, fucking Philosophy 101 student 0:52:44.870 --> 0:52:47.310 essay bullshit. 101, like, not real. 0:52:47.170 --> 0:52:49.710 Shit that you need to actually think about in this moment. 0:52:49.810 --> 0:52:52.020 I love how they played with that here, taking a 0:52:52.060 --> 0:52:54.620 line that really spoke to everyone and then saying, we're 0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:55.400 going to fucking. 0:52:55.140 --> 0:52:57.560 Kill our darlings. We're just going to cut the legs 0:52:57.660 --> 0:52:57.920 out of it. 0:52:58.100 --> 0:53:00.759 So true to who Ultron is, but it's also a 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.880 great message in the moment and it gets Viz to 0:53:02.900 --> 0:53:04.760 do what he needs to do. So we're already getting 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:08.630 that complexity here because, like, obviously Ultron has his own agenda, 0:53:08.650 --> 0:53:10.490 but he does get Viz to save Tommy. 0:53:10.510 --> 0:53:15.630 Yeah. So he does it by saying, listen, everybody focuses 0:53:15.710 --> 0:53:18.170 on the ship and whether it was, as it was 0:53:18.230 --> 0:53:19.950 replaced bit by bit, whether it was a real ship. 0:53:20.290 --> 0:53:23.140 And they ignore the actual wider story. The wider story 0:53:23.380 --> 0:53:28.279 is the king, Theseus, the children of his kingdom had 0:53:28.300 --> 0:53:31.080 been kidnapped. And so he went off and he rescued 0:53:31.100 --> 0:53:35.160 them and brought them back. And because of this, the 0:53:35.260 --> 0:53:38.680 people of his kingdom to celebrate him on the anniversary 0:53:38.739 --> 0:53:42.160 of this adventure, every year would like fix up the ship. 0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.739 And over time it became a new ship. Don't be 0:53:44.780 --> 0:53:48.580 the ship. He says, be the king. And so Vision's like, okay, 0:53:48.900 --> 0:53:51.600 he goes straight to the trap. He decides I'm going 0:53:51.620 --> 0:53:54.000 to go straight where they want me to go. Basically 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.020 Jarvis is like, don't do it. Like, let's be smarter 0:53:57.060 --> 0:54:00.759 about this. Don't go with emotion. You know, you go 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:05.719 with reason. Don't be mad. Vision is like, I'm not emotional, 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.739 but he clearly is because Jarvis can see it. And 0:54:09.900 --> 0:54:12.840 Jarvis and he are standing in front of a picture 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:17.700 of Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch. And Jarvis, who 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:22.860 knew Jim Hammond when Jarvis was a person, you know, Jarvis, 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:28.830 the assistant of Howard Stark at the time, says, as 0:54:28.870 --> 0:54:31.990 he looks upon this painting of the original Human Torch, 0:54:32.030 --> 0:54:34.710 Jim Hammond says, he knew better than any of us. 0:54:35.940 --> 0:54:39.430 When going into a dangerous situation to go with reason, 0:54:39.489 --> 0:54:40.950 to go without emotion. 0:54:41.210 --> 0:54:44.870 Because otherwise you can be consumed. And the painting of 0:54:44.910 --> 0:54:46.200 him is inflamed. 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:47.160 Inflamed. 0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:51.859 And actually, it made me wonder. So just to pause. Yes. 0:54:52.020 --> 0:54:56.120 We have numerous suspects of who the client could be. 0:54:56.430 --> 0:54:59.049 But could it be Jim Hammond who wants his body back? 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.560 Oh my God. I mean, I would fucking love that. 0:55:02.660 --> 0:55:05.060 And also that would be someone who could easily be 0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.850 in cahoots with Ultron and Ultron could easily give him 0:55:07.890 --> 0:55:10.830 the access under the promise that they share the body 0:55:10.930 --> 0:55:12.930 or maybe get it for part of the time. 0:55:13.430 --> 0:55:16.859 I mean, Jim Hammond, human tortures, the villain would be incredible. 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:17.640 Paul Jason. 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.660 It would be an unbelievable full... Considering we've only ever 0:55:21.820 --> 0:55:23.200 seen him in a tube in. 0:55:23.820 --> 0:55:27.090 In Iron Man. Captain America. No, Captain America First Avenger. 0:55:28.230 --> 0:55:32.470 At the Stark fucking show, yeah. Yeah, the Stark Expo. 0:55:32.830 --> 0:55:38.410 So, Viz goes, you know, right to St. Maven's and 0:55:38.450 --> 0:55:42.049 it's the scenes from the trailer, right? He, like, goes 0:55:42.110 --> 0:55:46.410 in there And pauses it, you know, live as the 0:55:46.550 --> 0:55:48.989 AIs are guiding him around the room. They're like, look 0:55:49.010 --> 0:55:50.670 at this guy who appears to be in a wheelchair. 0:55:51.030 --> 0:55:53.010 Look at this person who's pretending to be an orderly. 0:55:53.070 --> 0:55:56.739 They are all mercenaries. So you can fight them. Don't 0:55:56.780 --> 0:55:57.239 worry about it. 0:55:57.840 --> 0:55:58.000 So. 0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:03.620 Vision then proceeds to fucking kill everybody in the lobby. 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:07.460 He's miling people. He's turning people to dust like Thanos. 0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:11.669 He's exploding people's molecules. He's like, they're mercenaries. They wore 0:56:11.710 --> 0:56:16.650 tack boots. Okay, fuck it. I mean, he kills, I 0:56:16.690 --> 0:56:19.540 don't know, 20, 30 guys. In each episode. On the way. 0:56:21.180 --> 0:56:24.380 On the way to down the hall and to the 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:27.500 room where they believe Tommy is being held in the 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.120 secure wing of St. 0:56:29.180 --> 0:56:29.620 Nathan's. 0:56:30.780 --> 0:56:32.799 He gets to the room. Tommy is terrified at the 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.620 sight of Vision in his mechanical form. He's been having nightmares, 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:36.779 you know, flashback nightmares. 0:56:36.860 --> 0:56:38.910 Also, he doesn't know if it's real. We don't know 0:56:38.930 --> 0:56:42.290 if he's drunk. He feels like he's having a delusion. 0:56:42.630 --> 0:56:43.790 It's not a great moment. 0:56:44.530 --> 0:56:48.410 So Vision puts on his Paul Bettany human form again. And. 0:56:50.060 --> 0:56:51.140 you know, goes to him. 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.380 But when he's inside the room, the door shuts. And 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.140 now Vision tries to blast his way out. 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:57.800 He can't. 0:56:57.860 --> 0:57:01.069 This room is built to hold him. And clearly some 0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.280 sort of magnetic force is taking over. 0:57:04.340 --> 0:57:06.089 And the AIs realize. 0:57:06.030 --> 0:57:09.130 It's an EMP cage. It's negating all of his powers 0:57:09.170 --> 0:57:11.270 and it's basically shutting him down. 0:57:11.350 --> 0:57:11.990 He's dying. 0:57:14.150 --> 0:57:17.770 The Memory Palace, meanwhile, is breaking apart and collapsing. Ultron 0:57:17.790 --> 0:57:21.180 kind of takes the opportunity to escape his room. Tommy 0:57:22.060 --> 0:57:24.700 uses his time. 0:57:24.460 --> 0:57:27.410 Powers, question mark? Time powers, whichever you want. 0:57:27.430 --> 0:57:31.670 Question mark to pick the lock, but he needs Vision 0:57:31.690 --> 0:57:33.330 to help bust the door open. So they bust the 0:57:33.350 --> 0:57:35.310 door open, and as they get out into the hallway, 0:57:35.350 --> 0:57:38.540 and now Vision is kind of like recovering from the EMP, 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.070 but has something of his previous strength. The paladin shows 0:57:42.150 --> 0:57:48.310 up in his full paladin, very stiff paladin suit. And 0:57:48.330 --> 0:57:51.050 he's got a shotgun and the shotgun is loaded with 0:57:51.310 --> 0:57:54.490 adamantium shotgun shells. 0:57:54.790 --> 0:57:58.270 Jason, I got to say, I think, aside from mentions 0:57:58.470 --> 0:58:01.150 in newspapers and on TV, I think this is our 0:58:01.170 --> 0:58:05.130 first time when someone's like, he has adamantium shotgun shells. 0:58:05.210 --> 0:58:08.690 Like, I think this is post Fox being introduced. We 0:58:08.730 --> 0:58:09.880 can say it now. Yes. 0:58:10.490 --> 0:58:16.810 This is the first time that the substance has been. 0:58:17.010 --> 0:58:19.480 Used actively in the MCU. 0:58:19.540 --> 0:58:21.590 That's how I feel, at least that we can say. 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.880 And obviously catch us up if we miss something, guys. 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:24.920 But I thought this was very cool. 0:58:24.940 --> 0:58:26.720 I literally immediately went in the group and was like, 0:58:27.060 --> 0:58:28.360 adamantium mentioned. 0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:32.840 Also important for us because we've been obsessing over power 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.320 scaling different substances and. 0:58:35.260 --> 0:58:39.470 They immediately introduce adamantium here and say, This shit can 0:58:39.510 --> 0:58:42.660 fuck up vibranium. So here we have our answer. Introduction 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:43.220 is huge. 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.540 So we have something of our answer here, right? So, 0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.800 you know, Paladin is just unloading, and it's got to 0:58:49.820 --> 0:58:55.760 be like a million point five dollars per shot of shotgun. Like, 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.600 I don't know how much, but it's a lot. And 0:58:59.380 --> 0:59:03.540 it's really fucking big. Vision's Vibranium mesh body up. Like, 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.470 it's damaging him. He is very banged up. He does 0:59:06.530 --> 0:59:10.280 manage to, punch the paladin across the room, down the hall, 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:13.820 and through a door, and really stuns the paladin and 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:14.480 injures him. 0:59:15.020 --> 0:59:16.890 But Vision is dying. 0:59:17.140 --> 0:59:22.150 He's got a very deep wound to his stomach, and 0:59:22.330 --> 0:59:24.950 other places are really banged up. And to your point, Rosie, 0:59:24.990 --> 0:59:30.580 this does suggest to us that in the adamantium versus 0:59:30.820 --> 0:59:34.470 vibranium fight that adamantium may have the edge. 0:59:35.780 --> 0:59:41.510 Currently, I believe that adamantium refined into bullets is currently 0:59:41.550 --> 0:59:46.450 better than Viz's vibranium shell that he got, you know, 0:59:46.550 --> 0:59:50.530 five years ago. I think that the Wakandans can probably, exactly, 0:59:50.590 --> 0:59:55.210 it's a weave. The Wakandans probably have something, a version 0:59:55.310 --> 0:59:58.330 of vibranium that can fight against it. But definitely in 0:59:58.370 --> 1:00:00.680 this case, I mean, he gets fucking got and you 1:00:00.740 --> 1:00:05.200 see like this kind of almost alien style white goop 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:09.620 almost coming from inside his fingers. Like it's, it looks 1:00:09.700 --> 1:00:11.340 bad for him. And I did think it would be 1:00:11.380 --> 1:00:13.740 pretty brave for them to kill him off, but you know, 1:00:13.910 --> 1:00:14.610 not going to happen. 1:00:15.330 --> 1:00:19.250 Now to your point, Rosie, we all recall the many 1:00:19.310 --> 1:00:22.910 times that Wolverine has taken a swing at Cap in 1:00:22.950 --> 1:00:28.010 the comics. And to your point, Cap's vibranium shield always 1:00:28.090 --> 1:00:33.430 turns back Wolverine's pure itemantium claws. So I guess you're right. 1:00:33.870 --> 1:00:38.310 In a purified state, metal for metal, it's probably... Right, 1:00:38.430 --> 1:00:42.010 it's probably even. But because of the fact that Vision 1:00:42.070 --> 1:00:46.630 has a synthetic mesh vibranium body, probably meshed with other stuff, 1:00:46.730 --> 1:00:47.990 that it's not as strong. 1:00:49.330 --> 1:00:49.530 So. 1:00:51.690 --> 1:00:56.390 Vision staggers out of the building with Tommy. And, you know, 1:00:56.430 --> 1:00:59.160 the AIs are like, fuck, Vision is dying. They're inside 1:00:59.220 --> 1:01:02.580 the Million Palace, like trying, doing everything they can, rerouting power, 1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:04.340 doing everything they can to keep Vision on his feet. 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:05.419 But he's dying. 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:07.380 He's like, Tommy, you got to get out of here. 1:01:07.660 --> 1:01:08.480 You're going to die. 1:01:08.500 --> 1:01:10.720 I don't want you to die. I don't want you 1:01:10.740 --> 1:01:10.950 to die. 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:14.200 I actually do kind of care about you, so please leave. Yeah, 1:01:14.220 --> 1:01:16.320 like I did all of this to get you out, 1:01:16.460 --> 1:01:19.640 so you need to go. And Tommy's like, no, I 1:01:19.660 --> 1:01:21.600 have so many questions about who you are and what 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:23.500 our relationship is. Like, I don't want to leave you. 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:26.890 I don't want to leave you. And Paladin is like, 1:01:27.450 --> 1:01:31.710 on the radio, is like, hey, guys, wherever my fully 1:01:31.770 --> 1:01:34.550 expendable guys are, find Vision. 1:01:34.610 --> 1:01:35.890 Like, go. Get expended. 1:01:35.950 --> 1:01:36.410 Tommy runs away. 1:01:36.430 --> 1:01:37.150 Get murdered. 1:01:37.710 --> 1:01:42.190 Yeah, Tommy runs away. And inside of the Mind Palace, 1:01:44.170 --> 1:01:49.640 Ultron suggests, hey... Maybe it's time for a noble sacrifice. Basically, 1:01:49.700 --> 1:01:52.490 if one of us, the AIs are using so much 1:01:52.650 --> 1:01:58.360 energy and computing power. that if one of you should 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:03.900 delete themselves, that power could go to Vision and stabilize 1:02:03.940 --> 1:02:06.520 him and put off the inevitable for a little while. 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:10.160 And of course, it's Jarvis. Of course, Mr. Nobility Jarvis 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:12.040 is like, I will do it. 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:16.530 Not even what Ultron wanted, hilariously. Like, he's just the 1:02:16.570 --> 1:02:17.110 most noble guy. 1:02:17.410 --> 1:02:17.970 Or is it? 1:02:18.030 --> 1:02:21.450 Question mark. But he claims it's not what he wanted. Listen, 1:02:21.470 --> 1:02:22.490 I love Dummy. 1:02:23.150 --> 1:02:28.380 I love you. I would have sent one of them first. 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.500 No disrespect. I love her energy, but she's chaos, bro. 1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:33.480 She's chaos. 1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:36.590 Anyway, Jarvis does it. He deletes and we see his 1:02:36.680 --> 1:02:40.710 code as it appeared in Avengers Age of Ultron, actually. 1:02:40.750 --> 1:02:44.510 That kind of like golden sphere. Which also, very. 1:02:44.270 --> 1:02:47.470 Evocative of the Eternals and the powers we saw in 1:02:47.510 --> 1:02:50.370 the Eternals and this idea of kind of energy always 1:02:50.450 --> 1:02:51.890 permeating the universe. 1:02:51.930 --> 1:02:52.169 Yes. 1:02:53.810 --> 1:02:56.690 We see his code. Some of it disappears, but a 1:02:56.790 --> 1:02:59.570 lot of it breaks into pieces and goes into the 1:03:00.010 --> 1:03:03.840 surviving AI. So I guess we are to assume from 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:07.240 this that Jarvis isn't gone, that he just appears like 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:11.840 he lives on in shards, which exists in the other AIs. 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:15.560 Ultron then makes a quip that, well, Jarvis wasn't my 1:03:15.660 --> 1:03:17.500 first or even second choice, but he was a good guy. 1:03:17.580 --> 1:03:21.120 I liked it. And then just as it seems like 1:03:21.180 --> 1:03:23.900 all is lost, Tommy pulls back up in a stolen Volvo, 1:03:24.420 --> 1:03:29.760 loads dad into the wagon. They drive off. Vision says, oh, 1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:33.530 he didn't listen. The boy didn't listen. And Ultron says, like, father, like, son. 1:03:33.930 --> 1:03:36.530 And it's very interesting because it's not clear who Ultron 1:03:36.590 --> 1:03:38.880 is talking about. Is he talking about him? 1:03:38.890 --> 1:03:41.280 Is it him? Is it Ultron? 1:03:41.590 --> 1:03:45.120 I also love that this really cements, like, it's this 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:46.840 weird found family. 1:03:46.860 --> 1:03:48.820 They're going to rebuild the family. 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:52.120 There's this great line where he says to him before 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:53.990 he leaves him to go and steal the car, he says, 1:03:54.750 --> 1:03:55.710 I'm not going to leave you. 1:03:55.770 --> 1:03:57.970 You're my... You're my something. 1:03:58.410 --> 1:04:00.320 And I think that's going to definitely be one of 1:04:00.340 --> 1:04:04.100 those standout lines for people with these two episodes. 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:06.900 Let's take a quick break and then just talk briefly 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:09.160 about where we think the show is going and. 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:09.540 What we thought. 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:30.120 Okay, and we're back discussing the first two episodes of 1:04:30.140 --> 1:04:34.900 Vision Quest. And first of all, knocked out by how 1:04:34.940 --> 1:04:35.540 good it is. 1:04:36.020 --> 1:04:39.020 Just pure quality, in my opinion. Pure quality. 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:42.340 But I see why they were happy and proud enough 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:44.600 of it to send out the screeners early. I see 1:04:44.620 --> 1:04:48.320 why they were proud enough to say it is distinctly 1:04:48.340 --> 1:04:52.600 a trilogy. And it does feel like that. It feels 1:04:52.740 --> 1:04:55.160 so real to that. And I will say, go back, 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:58.280 listen to our Vision Quest. Agatha all along Age of 1:04:58.300 --> 1:05:02.640 Ultron catch up but really like watching WandaVision and then 1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:06.960 watching this is like so emotional I love this family to. 1:05:06.940 --> 1:05:11.710 Your point it's like this is a the roots of 1:05:11.770 --> 1:05:15.310 this story go back to the second Avengers movie are 1:05:15.390 --> 1:05:20.710 threaded through a bunch of the MCU storytelling including Infinity 1:05:20.750 --> 1:05:26.280 War including Endgame including you know Multifunction Madness and Continuing 1:05:26.340 --> 1:05:30.280 to Wanda and Agatha. And yeah, it just is really, 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:37.610 it really hits. It's also such a, you know, to 1:05:38.270 --> 1:05:40.350 kind of rewind to like, what was it? Three, four 1:05:40.370 --> 1:05:42.250 years ago when Disney Plus was launching. 1:05:42.450 --> 1:05:43.150 I was, no, no, no. 1:05:43.230 --> 1:05:44.150 It's crazier. 1:05:44.390 --> 1:05:50.100 Jason, I wrote about White Vision in WandaVision five. 1:05:49.740 --> 1:05:50.900 Years ago in March. 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:55.320 It was 2021, five years ago, that this was established 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:56.140 on the TV. 1:05:56.880 --> 1:05:59.040 There was so much. We were talking so much at 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:01.740 that time about, oh, the Young Avengers. How are they 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:03.600 going to launch the Young Avengers and bring them in? 1:06:03.620 --> 1:06:10.390 And this is such a earned way to bring... Wow. 1:06:10.910 --> 1:06:14.010 Of course, this is Tommy's story, but Billy before him. 1:06:14.070 --> 1:06:16.530 To bring Billy and Tommy to life in a way that, 1:06:17.230 --> 1:06:19.170 first of all, is fully. 1:06:20.890 --> 1:06:25.160 Embracing of Marvel lore, like the crazy way it does 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:26.260 happen in the comics. 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:28.780 Like this is how it happened. No, exactly. 1:06:29.160 --> 1:06:32.300 Well, the thing I think souls and Agatha, and this 1:06:32.390 --> 1:06:35.450 is really like how they would do it in the comics. 1:06:35.490 --> 1:06:37.970 And it's crazy that they're bringing this to the screen 1:06:38.030 --> 1:06:42.770 and this, sincere, authentic way that feels so emotionally heavy 1:06:43.210 --> 1:06:48.490 because its characters, specifically the Vision, but also Ultron, shockingly, 1:06:49.260 --> 1:06:53.300 and the AIs, who we have known for years now. 1:06:53.640 --> 1:06:55.940 Yeah, I mean, I think they've been establishing this stuff 1:06:55.960 --> 1:07:00.380 for so long because they were so clearly influenced by 1:07:00.420 --> 1:07:03.870 the incredible West Coast Avengers stuff, you know, the Vision 1:07:03.910 --> 1:07:04.710 Quest arc. 1:07:05.170 --> 1:07:07.030 But I think what's kind of blown me away is 1:07:07.610 --> 1:07:08.290 What we know. 1:07:08.150 --> 1:07:10.690 From that arc, right, which is like the Vision Quest, 1:07:10.770 --> 1:07:14.250 the West Coast Avengers stuff from like 42 to 44, 1:07:14.250 --> 1:07:16.880 and then eventually West Coast Avengers 45 where we meet 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:19.820 the beautiful white Vision, a lot of what was covered 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:22.860 there was actually covered in WandaVision. So it's always been 1:07:22.900 --> 1:07:24.800 a big question, right? Like, what will they do in 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:28.880 Vision Quest? So instead, taking it a little bit into 1:07:28.900 --> 1:07:33.169 the future, into the mid-2000s, into that young Avengers era... 1:07:33.510 --> 1:07:36.050 And doing this is so smart. And also, look, we've 1:07:36.070 --> 1:07:38.680 been waiting a long time for Young Avengers. But to 1:07:38.740 --> 1:07:42.000 give Billy and Tommy true, incredible origins. And look at 1:07:42.040 --> 1:07:45.820 who else we have. Kate Bishop, also an incredible series. 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:49.020 No misses there. Miss Marvel, same thing. So this is 1:07:49.100 --> 1:07:51.900 a team where it's worth investing in them. And yeah, 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:55.620 to then basically get to see this expanded. And it 1:07:55.640 --> 1:07:57.370 makes sense they're having to change it because a lot 1:07:57.390 --> 1:08:00.910 of the Vision Quest stuff connected directly to Simon Williams. 1:08:00.930 --> 1:08:01.010 Yeah. 1:08:01.490 --> 1:08:04.520 And the notion of him, Wonder Man, being the kind 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:10.030 of basis mentally for the Vision. So that obviously needs 1:08:10.090 --> 1:08:12.150 to shift. So I really like it's more about this 1:08:12.250 --> 1:08:15.130 idea about the Vision's connection to his family. That's something 1:08:15.170 --> 1:08:18.280 we saw in the Tom King Gabriel Walter comic which 1:08:18.340 --> 1:08:21.189 obviously was a huge influence here too so it really 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:26.150 does feel like so plucked from the comics so right 1:08:26.310 --> 1:08:28.110 but I gotta say something that I think it did 1:08:28.130 --> 1:08:30.390 for me that I haven't seen a lot of and 1:08:30.410 --> 1:08:32.630 maybe it's just because I'm from London and stuff but 1:08:32.710 --> 1:08:34.570 I felt like the kids stuff I felt like the 1:08:34.610 --> 1:08:37.799 London stuff felt very real like it just felt really 1:08:37.939 --> 1:08:41.260 true and just like fucking real and scary and it 1:08:41.300 --> 1:08:42.799 made me really care about him. 1:08:43.400 --> 1:08:47.500 Yeah it's like to your point about Transitioning into a 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:53.600 into Doomsday and a post Secret Wars X-Men paradigm. It 1:08:53.700 --> 1:08:56.950 is this show has a dark and scary and much 1:08:57.010 --> 1:09:01.240 more violent edge than we've seen. I think, for certainly 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:02.479 other Marvel TV stuff. 1:09:02.979 --> 1:09:05.300 It feels more like that brand new day where you 1:09:05.340 --> 1:09:08.400 could imagine Gene in this world. 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:10.980 You could imagine Gene and Tommy coming. 1:09:10.900 --> 1:09:14.120 Across each other. Also, I got to be honest, I 1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:16.410 think it's interesting for them to have a show like 1:09:16.490 --> 1:09:20.410 this and show that the reality of a character like 1:09:20.450 --> 1:09:23.170 vision who doesn't value human life. There are going to 1:09:23.189 --> 1:09:25.309 be times like in the comics where he does kill 1:09:25.410 --> 1:09:28.670 tons of people because he doesn't see them as human beings. 1:09:28.729 --> 1:09:31.050 And that is a complexity that he shares with Ultron. 1:09:31.470 --> 1:09:35.020 So I just, I'm very interested to see them actually 1:09:35.300 --> 1:09:38.760 touching on that darkness and setting up that more grim 1:09:38.939 --> 1:09:43.220 reality to kind of then put these overpowered heroes in 1:09:43.260 --> 1:09:45.580 that we're going to see once the mutants start to join. 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:50.420 Um, I also just think that, you know, we've been 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:54.120 saying for, it feels like years now, that bringing back 1:09:54.280 --> 1:09:55.960 Ultron somehow would be incredible. 1:09:55.979 --> 1:09:59.210 We have been the number one Ultron apologists and we're 1:09:59.250 --> 1:10:00.090 glad he's back. 1:10:01.189 --> 1:10:02.870 I mean, this is like secretly. 1:10:04.500 --> 1:10:09.559 An actually huge reveal that unbeknownst to all the Avengers. 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:09.880 Yep. 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:13.300 Tony Stark, Banner, everybody. Wanda didn't know this. 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.060 Stephen Strange. Did Wanda. 1:10:15.100 --> 1:10:17.150 I mean, that's actually a great question. How much did 1:10:17.189 --> 1:10:21.350 Wanda know about Vision's Mind Palace and that he was 1:10:21.410 --> 1:10:23.870 housing Ultron the whole time? But the fact that he 1:10:23.950 --> 1:10:27.650 has been secretly harboring Ultron for years? 1:10:28.250 --> 1:10:28.890 Crazy. 1:10:29.790 --> 1:10:33.490 Is... Really an amazing reveal that they could build a 1:10:33.610 --> 1:10:36.090 lot of stuff out of going forward. I mean, to 1:10:36.150 --> 1:10:40.510 think about it, like Ultron has witnessed all the events 1:10:40.570 --> 1:10:43.830 of Infinity War, got a up close and personal look 1:10:43.870 --> 1:10:45.110 at Wakanda and technology. 1:10:45.130 --> 1:10:48.390 Yeah, he's like fucking C-3PO. He knows everything. 1:10:48.650 --> 1:10:53.500 There's so many things he's been involved in. without anybody 1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:56.140 knowing because he's been living inside the vision and there's 1:10:56.180 --> 1:10:59.120 just endless possibilities. It's not even clear to me that 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:03.240 Ultron isn't the client. He very well may be the person, 1:11:03.340 --> 1:11:06.900 he might be lying about that, that I don't have 1:11:06.939 --> 1:11:10.560 him as my most suspected, but I think it's very 1:11:10.620 --> 1:11:14.370 possible that he hired the Paladin. And certainly, I think 1:11:14.590 --> 1:11:20.479 whatever his own goals are, One of them is. 1:11:20.500 --> 1:11:23.180 He wants a body. He wants physical form again. Yes, 100%. 1:11:23.180 --> 1:11:25.400 He must. 100%. 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:28.689 Which, by the way, great connection to a potential Mr. 1:11:28.750 --> 1:11:33.570 Sinister connection with the X-Men. Also, guess what Ultron lived through, 1:11:33.590 --> 1:11:37.799 we now know. Ultron lived through seeing Thanos collect the gems, 1:11:37.900 --> 1:11:41.720 the Mind Stone being crushed, all of that. Again, tying into, guys, 1:11:42.100 --> 1:11:45.400 my biggest Gen Alpha-fueled theory, which is if they are 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:48.360 smart and they know what the kids want, Infinity Ultron. 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:50.270 I think we could see that in the future. 1:11:50.670 --> 1:11:50.910 Yeah. 1:11:51.330 --> 1:11:53.530 I thought these first two episodes were so great. Like, 1:11:53.650 --> 1:11:55.870 I love these characters, but it lived up to it 1:11:55.910 --> 1:11:57.849 for me. And I got to say, I think the 1:11:57.870 --> 1:12:01.229 addition of James Spader and the human avatars of the 1:12:01.250 --> 1:12:05.809 AI is such a smart way to build give us 1:12:05.860 --> 1:12:07.870 some emotional. 1:12:07.090 --> 1:12:10.350 Connection, even though Vision is struggling to find it. I mean, 1:12:10.370 --> 1:12:16.769 I was legitimately crushed when Jarvis died. I was sad 1:12:16.810 --> 1:12:19.620 when Fiona died. She was nice. Like, they made me 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:20.879 care about these people. 1:12:21.200 --> 1:12:25.180 And obviously Jarvis, again, if we're talking about huge MCU moments, 1:12:25.660 --> 1:12:29.089 the death of Jarvis and the reveal that Ultron is 1:12:29.150 --> 1:12:31.870 back is like fucking seismic shit. 1:12:31.930 --> 1:12:35.310 Like, this show is not playing around. Well, we're going 1:12:35.330 --> 1:12:38.900 to continue covering it on the next episode of X-Ray Vision. 1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:42.480 This Saturday, it's news. 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