1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State? Is that woo woom? And Dan 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal, Boys and girls. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrand. I am joined as always, 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: but I'm a good friend over there in New York 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: City a gentleman by the name of Dan Ruberstein. Sir, 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: how are you? 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: I am fantastic, Tye. I am glad you asked. I 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: have my tea, my bladder is empty. I am fully 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: optimized for high level podcasting, at least for us. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Did you feel at all let down in Week twelve 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: because we've had so many big weeks of college football 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: to have a week like Week twelve where there weren't 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: many surprises. We had k State beating Oklahoma State, which 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk about. We had I guess Washington on the 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: ropes against Utah UCLA playing defense was a bit of 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: a surprise, but beyond that, not a whole lot in 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: the way of wrinkles in the college football world. 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Then obviously you didn't see Oregon complete a number of 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: passes down the field because that is new and exciting, 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: and the choice of a fresh generation tie. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Now, we had Michigan Wisconsin early on, and there was 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: certainly some drama for a good chunk of that game. 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: And you know, Virginia put a scare into Miami. There 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: wasn't anything that I think flipped the college football landscape 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: around and on itself. But I thought there was enough 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: in the way of entertainment and tension and whatever the 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: hell Kansas State almost lost to Oklahoma State that I 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: was entertained and I had a fantastic Saturday tie. 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: It was a low key Saturday, but a fun Saturday. 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: If nothing else, we had college football and crazy weather. 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: We need to add oh Man crazy weather, a bunch 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of monsoon games taking place around college football so bad 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: in Tennessee that not only did the rain cause the 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: referees Mike's tamal function, the winds were so strong that 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: part of the Neeland Stadium scoreboard blew off and hit 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a fan. And I think the the uprights, the goalposts, Oh, 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: they were leaning before the game, Yeah, like forty five degrees. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: There was a level on the crossbar. We had a 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: good it was a good crossbar day because there was 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: a big fat doink in cal Stanford. 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it was a It was a good weird day. 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, the weather stuff. When I flipped over, I 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: think Fox had the Michigan State Maryland game. It looked 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: like an aggressive Hailey snowstorm. And god, it looks so 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: good in HD. Tie it's probably hell if you're there. 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: Although I did see Michigan State people sticking out their tongues, 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: So there's that. 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: Sure. Good good weather day, real strong weather day, good 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: weather day to be at home watching an HD. How 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: about that? 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Idaho State, the field was covered. Yeah, I don't 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: remember who they were playing. I think, yeah, it was fun. 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm with it all right. 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Well, let's get rolling the way we always do here 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: on the show. Let's tap into your week twelve voice 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: messages at four weight verble one. We like to call 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: them the reverbs. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Have a listenin field goal turnover on down, end of game. 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: What a thrillly big ten matchup. 64 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: This is Nick collin In from Phoenix, Arizona. 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 6: Hey guys, this is Shiner Ryan. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: Tie Ken from Maryland. 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: This is Marcello from Austin, Texas. 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: This is Matt and Courtney from San Francisco. 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 5: We used our window of opportunity today to sleep until 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: ten thirty am this morning. 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: We miss nothing. 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: I'm watching my Kneea Lions crush the Nebraska corn Huskers. 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna party like it's nineteen ninety four. 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: All right, just washing My Northwestern Wildcats take it to 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 6: Minnesota well on their way to their first six. 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: Game win streak nineteen ninety six. 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Produced Bowl holds now Rest in the old Oak and 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Bucket game, it just means more, Go Boilers. I would 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: just like to say that good teams win, but great 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: teams cover the spread, and that's what Illinois did this week. 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: At Ohio State. 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: IL. 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: I have a in law that I have to buy 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: a Christmas present for they are Wolverines fans. 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: A box of Kleenexes would be a good choice. 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 7: Tanner Lee looked like he was actually back at the 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 7: Men in Passing Academy. Too bad, they were down forty 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 7: two to ten when he showed up. So I'll just 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 7: finished Washington when I saw it was an improved Red 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 7: Raiders team failed to score a single touchdair against CCU, 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 7: and I'm pretty sure Cliff is done and a piece 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 7: of me just died and I said that just. 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: Checking in after the Longhorned got Bowl eligible. 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 7: How about that? 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: And how gruesome was that injury to will career whole week? 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: How even doing a win playing Navy is like being 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: bled out from one hundred thousand paper cuts. 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 7: I'm confused. 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: These the winner of the North Carolina State Wave Forrest 100 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: Gabe automatically get at an SEC job. This is Brett 101 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: Belima today with smell Bacon, Brian short times verballer, first 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 4: time read Berber, and Georgia is back. 103 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 6: Baby Kentucky just got murdered. 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: Washing sau run one up against the second place team 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: of the division. Can't help but thank the hilarious inevitability 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: that Lane Kiffin is going to be the next head 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: coach at the University of Florida. 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 7: It's gonna be awesome. 109 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: My Devils are six and six and the dustas FETO 110 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: rivals full eligible. I think Dan and I are writ 111 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: in the same chance to play in the newly anointed 112 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: Dreams Path Stadium for the Guild and underweinning Mexico Bowl. 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: Baby walk on USC punter Reed Budrovich hits that guy 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: so hard I think he lost his shoes and calling 115 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: him out the army rushing attach and five hundred. 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: Yards in a losing effort. 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 7: Well, life is pretty good. 118 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: Tailgate. 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 7: It was some friends today, the rams one on senior 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 7: day and the girl I really. 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: Like, I think, let's you's back. 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 7: So pretty good day. 123 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully we all have the same. 124 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: Just call on to congratulate my attended one Knitt's off 125 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: State OLS for went into BIGSOF Championship go with the 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: FT playoffs for the first time in the third year 127 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: of there. Just said. 128 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 6: I am packed twelve after darking on the East Coast, 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 6: and I'm glad I stayed up because this kind of 130 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 6: boying college football day just got pretty freaking amazing at 131 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 6: ten minutes to two o'clock in the morning on East Coast. 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Alrighty, there you have it your Week twelve reverbs. Thank 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: you as always to everyone who called in again four 134 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: eight verbal one. That's four oh eight eight three seven 135 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: two to two five one. Our boy Taylor cutting those up, 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: giving us a nice little mishmash of the fan reaction 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: to Week twelve in the world of college football. So look, 138 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how we want to structure the 139 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: show today because typically what I'll do is I'll go through. 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll pull out all the big games, all the headlining 141 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: games that maybe we addressed on our Wednesday preview, some 142 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: of the games that came as a bit of a 143 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: surprise this week where we didn't have a whole lot 144 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: of surprises. Do you just want to go conference by 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: conference through this and sort of hash it all out? Yeah, 146 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: we can do that. I know that. 147 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: On Wednesday we talked and I think both of us said, 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: there's no way Boise State and Fresno State will play 149 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: two consecutive weeks. Well, if we're going to deep dive 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: the Mountain West to start, I've got some bad news. 151 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Man. 152 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: We in for some Boise State Presno State action. Why 153 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: don't we start with the Big Ten? How about that? 154 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Let's do that. Let's start with the Big Ten. The 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: marquee game in the Big Ten was Wisconsin at home 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: against Michigan. And you never would have guessed it, Dan, 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: this was exactly the kind of game we expected, exactly 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the kind of game. I texted you at one point 159 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: that a large swath of this football game was borderline unwatchable? 160 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? 161 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: I would say so, and I don't know if you 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: have the divorceech ready and I'm not ready quite ready 163 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: to be. 164 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: There, do you I do have it at the ready 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: if you're okay. Because we've got a. 166 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: Lot of tweets about this, I guess people really like 167 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: dramatic punt and turnover on downs readings. Yeah, it was 168 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: not fantastic. You had a punt return touchdown early. Michigan 169 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: drove in the second quarter to tie it at seven, 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: But it was it was a lot of stalling and 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: fit and starting offense whatever. The Brandon Peters injury was 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: incredibly unfortunate, and I know Michigan fans were, you know, 173 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: capital outrage that it was a dirty hit. I didn't 174 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: see it as see. To me, dirty hits are we 175 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: are trying to take this guy out of the game 176 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: and we are celebrating it. And it was a late 177 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: hit and he was driven to the ground I think excessively. 178 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: But to me, it did not feel like there was 179 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: a bounty on Brandon Peters. 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, there was a bounty on Baker Mayfield. We'll talk 181 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: about that little Yeah, that was that was entirely popped. 182 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: That was a legitimate dirty hit. 183 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: Yes, big picture, it was interesting to me that around 184 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: that time, Wisconsin started to get its act together. They 185 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: called the time out. I tweeted this that Wisconsin, leading 186 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: up at that point, had not done any of anything 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: pretty much, and Alex Hornibrook had struggled to throw the 188 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: ball and connect downfield. They call a timeout, and it 189 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: was almost like there was just a shift change in 190 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: a hockey game, like there was a package inserted. I 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: now understand how that sounds upon hearing myself, but that 192 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: there was a you know, Paul Chris sent out, Okay, 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: now let's do offense, and they Jonathan Taylor started running 194 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: all over Michigan's defense. Alex Hornibrook threaded a bunch of 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: needles and threw a couple nice passes, one of which 196 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: went into the end zone for seven points. And ultimately 197 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Wisconsin shifted away and and got a nice, nice, nice, nice, 198 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: nice nice win to join the Iowa win twenty four 199 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: to ten Badger. 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: Twenty four to ten Badgers was your final score. I 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: came away from this game feeling like Wisconsin's defense is 202 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: really good, Like they were doubling down on the run. 203 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: It was clear that they were forcing Michigan to beat 204 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: them through the air and to Michigan's credit. They did 205 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: get a couple of big plays through the air, including 206 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: one that I think was a touchdown after the replay, 207 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: I know they called it incomplete. It was real close. 208 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: It looked like it was bang bang. It was close. 209 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: I thought he got his foot down. I thought Brandon 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Peters did okay before he got cream and got carted off. 211 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I hope he's okay. So you know, more of what 212 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: we expected in this football game. We know Michigan's not 213 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: quite ready for prime time. The offense has been a 214 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: work in progress, the quarterback position a work in progress. 215 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: They held their own for a while, but eventually, like 216 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: you said, a shift change, Wisconsin does pull away. You're 217 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: also right to say that Alex Hornybrook had a little 218 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: bit of trouble connecting down field, but he did make 219 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: some really big throws in tight windows. Still had the pick. 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Got to get rid of those picks play. 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: Ask you a question to follow things up, Yes, I 222 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: guess it'll be a two part question. One does this 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: significantly or on any level change your opinion of Wisconsin? 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: And now they're they're right to a top four spot 225 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: after looking in from the outside last. 226 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Week, right to a top four spot is relative. I've 227 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: never been fully sold on Wisconsin's offense or defense is legit, 228 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: no doubt about that defense legit. I'm still not sure 229 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: how I feel about them against a better team, a 230 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: team better than Michigan. Perhaps we'll find that out in 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: two weeks in the Big Ten Championship game. But for now, 232 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't really change my opinion too too much of Wisconsin. 233 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: They just need to keep winning. 234 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: Second part of the question, does it change your opinion 235 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: of Michigan, who came into the game as an underdog 236 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: on the road. As an underdog on the road, and 237 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: it appears if they lose to Ohio State, which looks 238 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: likely that they will fall to five and four finish 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: the season eight and four. That seems like a likely outcome. 240 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: But it was going into the season, everybody sort of 241 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: came in saying, well, yeah, eight and four, nine and three, 242 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, if things break a couple of ways, ten 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: and two. But it feels like it's within the standard 244 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: deviation of what the expectations were. I know it's there's 245 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: going to be disappointment. Wilton spates injury a brand of 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: defense essentially, is there is there room to grow dramatically 247 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: concerned about the long term future of Michigan football if 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: they indeed finish fourth now in the Big Ten East 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: and offensively seem at best okay, pretty good and at 250 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: worst sort of in a rut and stubbornly boring. 251 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: I know, I don't think so. They've recruited well. 252 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: That's the thing though, relative to what the talent is 253 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: on hand. 254 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: And I know that. 255 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: You know, I had injuries at receiver this year, but 256 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: they lost. 257 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: They lost so much from a year ago, this is 258 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: always going to be a quasi rebuilding year. So no, 259 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: I don't have any concerns long term. They're going to 260 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: be fine. 261 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean Ohio State year overyear use it loses 262 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: the time. But they recruit certainly on a different level. 263 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: And you know, urbn Meyer has certainly been there long. 264 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: They're starting from a different point though. Michigan just hired 265 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a new coach a couple of years ago. You got 266 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: to give him a chance to get in there, get 267 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: his guys in there, fully install his system. They still 268 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: need a quarterback. The quarterback has been a problem for 269 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: Michigan football. They need to get a quarterback that they 270 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: can rely on weekend week out, then they'll be fine. 271 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: I would strongly consider going in a new offensive direction. Okay, 272 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: all right, I just to me, like the offensive line play. 273 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: You can win with average offensive line play, if you're 274 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: a little bit more creative and you play with tempo 275 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: or something like that. And I think there's there's a 276 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: stubborn nature to the Harba Drevno offensive partnership. 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: That may be true. I'm not concerned yet. Let's move on. 278 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: We got to move on. We got a bunch of 279 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: games to talk about here, Big ten elsewhere, Penn State 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: fifty six, Nebraska forty four. Horrible weather in state college, 281 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: as really was the case around college football, cold and rainy. 282 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: I have a question about Joe Moorehead's attire in this 283 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: football game. Did you watch any of this game? 284 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: It was on mute on one of the TVs, and 285 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: I watched extended highlights this morning, so I saw a 286 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: good chunk of it. But it was what forty two 287 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: to ten, and I started paying less attention. 288 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: It was forty two to ten at halftime. Nebraska obviously 289 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: came back in garbage time when Penn State was on 290 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: an autopilot. But Joe Morehead, you'd have to believe has 291 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: access to Nike's entire arsenal of Penn State paraphernalia. Okay, 292 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: on a cold, rainy day in State College, he decides 293 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: to go with the gray cotton sweatshirt. 294 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Questionable, gotta get a shell. 295 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: He looked like he was soaked the entire football game, 296 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: and he didn't change it half. Yeah, yeah, I was. 297 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean maybe it worked for him. I wasn't gonna 298 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: they score forty two points in the first half. It's 299 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: sort of a Gary Patterson situation. Change if it's not working, 300 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: but you got a role if it is. 301 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Our friend, Bruce Felman said at halftime of the broadcast, 302 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: it was about as good as he'd seen Penn State's 303 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: offense look all year. The counterpoint would be that it 304 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: was against Nebraska. Don't want to split hairs, but whatever. 305 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, congratulations. He scored his thirty seventh, thirty eighth, 306 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: and thirty ninth career touchdowns. The thirty ninth broke the 307 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: school record previously held by Leido Mitchell. 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: I came away from this game from what I saw, 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: very impressed with the return of Saquon Barkley, and even 310 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: more so about how Trace McSorley looked. He looked confident. 311 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: He spread the ball around to a number of receivers. 312 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: I saw Mike Oeseki had a big It was like 313 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: a fade type route, but he was stepping into his throes. 314 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: I I came away thinking, Okay, Trace McSorley has a 315 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: bit of mojo back, and yes it was against Man. 316 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: I almost just called him Brady Yaco, the hail Mary 317 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator hired to save a job. The parallels aren't great, 318 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, the Nebraska defense is trash all right. 319 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the Big Ten, we had Ohio State fifty 320 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: two to fourteen over Illinois, we had Michigan State seventeen 321 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: to seven over Maryland, Northwestern thirty nine to nil over Minnesota, 322 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Indiana forty one to nil over Rutgers, and finally Perdue. 323 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Nice win for Purdue twenty four to fifteen over the 324 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Iowahawke is a nice road win for the Perdue boiler Makers. 325 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a magnifying glass on Northwestern because thirty 326 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: nine to zhering against even an average or slightly below 327 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: average Minnesota team. However you think of the Gophers, that's 328 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: frigging ridiculous. They helped Minnesota to one of eleven on 329 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: third down. Justin Jackson had a record setting day career wise. 330 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: He had one hundred and sixty six on the ground. 331 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: Clayton Thorson was fine through a couple of touchdown passes. 332 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: Demery Croft, the Minnesota quarterback, two of eleven for forty 333 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: three yards to nice. That's right, it looks like the 334 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: long reception. The long throw is thirty six yards. So okay, 335 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: man good for north Western. 336 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about it. The quiet march towards nine wins 337 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: continues for the Wildcats. 338 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely so really nice win for them, and as a 339 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: result of Perdue beating Iowa and Indiana, laying the wood 340 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: against against Rutgers, the battle for the old Oaken bucket tie. 341 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: That's for bowl eligibility, you know it. Here we go, 342 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: speaking of that Perdue win, they are one game shy 343 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: of qualifying for a bowl now for the first time 344 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: since twenty twelve. So good for Jeff Brohm and what 345 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to build and Purdue. It's been a great season. 346 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, let's go to the ACC. Okay, okay, 347 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: Miami forty four, UVA twenty eight. This game did end 348 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: up being a bit of a track. It worked out 349 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: for Miami in the end, but UVA went up fourteen 350 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: to nothing in the first quarter. In the beginning of 351 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: the third quarter it was twenty eight to fourteen. Kurt 352 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Benkert started something crazy like ten for ten for one 353 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards, two touchdowns. He was outstanding the 354 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: entire game. Definitely a bit of a hangover effect in 355 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: play here for the Keynes. 356 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like eighteen of nineteen for two to 357 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: eighty four to start. It was ridiculous, Like I think 358 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: the one incomplete pass was a throwaway. 359 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: Totally. He looked outstanding. I am all in on the 360 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Who's next week at home against Virginia Tech. We'll talk 361 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: about that when we do our rivalry week show. All 362 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: that being set. After being in a hole two touchdown 363 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: hole in the second half, Miami turned it on. They 364 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: scored thirty on answer. They won by sixteen. Three more 365 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: pulls on the turnover chain Dan, including one for Travis Homer, 366 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: who you know is the running back. He got a 367 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: fumble on a special team's play. What do you take 368 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: away from a game like this? If you're looking at 369 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Miami here, take anything new away? 370 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if Miami is unable to and that is an 371 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: enormous if, given how good the defense and unpredictable nature 372 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: of many Diaz defense has been, and how fast and 373 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: confident they play. But if it's a game in which 374 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: two good teams, one of which is Miami, don't turn 375 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: the ball over and the defense needs to make third 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: down stops and the offense needs to march down the 377 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: field and doesn't have short fields because of turnovers, I 378 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: am exceedingly curious about what that looks like, you know, 379 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: and it will see it against Clemson most likely. But 380 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: you know, Miami's defense certainly good enough to to top 381 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Clemson and force Kelly Bryant into mistakes. But I'm curious 382 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: about that because there was a certain amount of confidence 383 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: that Kurt Banker played with that better quarterbacks can now 384 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 2: look at and say, okay, okay, we can do that. 385 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: And good for Miami for coming back. Malik Rosier, you know, 386 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: a couple of pretty bad mistakes and bad throws underthrows, 387 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: and it sort of felt like you take the good, 388 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: you take the bad, and there you have Malik Rosier 389 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: and he's so dangerous on the ground where he is 390 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: a net positive comfortably. But I just I don't know 391 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: if that's going to come back to bite them against 392 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: a team that can play four quality quarters. But as 393 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: of right now, and this is all putting Miami in 394 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: a top four microscope because just full Miami context, the 395 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: whole season's already an enormous win. Sure, but now that 396 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: they are a top three team, I think it's fair 397 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: to sort of scrutinize the more minute aspects of what 398 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: Miami is looking like and yesterday look like, Well, you 399 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: can you can jump on them a little bit, and 400 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: you can throw on them a little bit if you 401 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: get some time, and as long as you don't make 402 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: mistakes and avoid, which is tough to do against his defense, 403 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: you can beat them. 404 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: But that's a ton of ifs. Yeah, I don't I 405 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: don't take too much knew away from this. There's no 406 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: doubt that Miami's a big game team, though, and we 407 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: saw that against Virginia Tech, we saw it last week 408 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: against Notre Dame. I worry a little bit that when 409 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: you take away that big game element when they're at 410 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: home against UVA like they were this week or next 411 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: week on the road to pitt sort of a meaningless 412 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: game in the grand scheme of things, do they lose 413 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: some of that intensity? I don't know. For a while 414 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: in the UVA game I thought they might, but it 415 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: ultimately ended up working out. On Friday, they've got a 416 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: road tilt against Pittsburgh. Pitt's not a great team. Hell, 417 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: but you never know, they got a pretty good third 418 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: string quarterback. They had a pretty good third string quarterback. 419 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Pit beat two top five teams a year ago in 420 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: Penn State and Clemson, So who the hell knows in 421 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: college football. I don't know if you caught Chris Fowler's 422 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: comment about that game, No, the Pit Miami game. Did 423 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: you hear that? No, what he's saying. Oh, he was 424 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: savage on pitt He talked about Miami just needing to 425 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: get through that road game next week up in Pittsburgh 426 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: with all those yellow seats. Not unfair, all those yellow seats. 427 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got a point. I think this 428 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: Miami team could lose to the twenty sixteen pit. 429 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: Team, thank you. 430 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: I think they got to watch out the Canada and 431 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: James Connor. 432 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: You just don't know. My only other point here is 433 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: that Virginia is one of the best stories of the 434 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: year in college football. You can put them right up 435 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: there with Iowa State, maybe even Purdue, just teams that 436 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: were irrelevant for a long time. And I know you 437 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: don't get moral victories in college football. We all understand that. 438 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: But really, a hell of a job by Bronco Mendon Hall, 439 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: friend of the show, Bronco Mendon Hall at UVA. 440 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, what's the name of that? The rivalry, the 441 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: Virginia Virginia Tech game, It's the Battle for the Commonwealth, 442 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Cup, the Commonwealth Cup. 443 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Miami wasn't the only team with 444 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: a hangover from last week. Hmmm, fill me in. Let's 445 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: talk about Notre Dame twenty four Navy seventeen. 446 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: Dan. 447 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's I told you not to lock up Notre Dame 448 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: in this game. I told I warned you vocally not 449 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: to take Notre Dame minus whatever in this game. 450 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Well, they wear such cool and hip throwback uniform inspirational. 451 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: I was not a fan. I hate it. I hate 452 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: the special uniforms. I know they use it as a 453 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: recruiting tool all over. I get it. I don't like it. 454 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to like it. Maybe I'm an old man. 455 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm confused. But God, every time Notre Dame tries 456 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: the alternate uniform thing, it seems like the game is 457 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: closer than it should be. Okay, here we go. 458 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: They all had Rockney on the back tie. You gotta 459 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: get me this week. 460 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you this week. 461 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: They have leather inspired garbage helmets. 462 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted us that they showed a Medicare commercial during 463 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: this game. Somewhere, of course they did. 464 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: I actually didn't mind the shade of blue and the 465 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: shade of gold, and like the piping, the blue piping 466 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: on the gold and the gold piping on the blue. 467 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty sharp. Actually, my problem was 468 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: they look like Navy. It was the same shade that 469 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: Navy wears, and I thought the helmets looked just like Okay, relax, guys, 470 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: we get it, you used to wear leather. But game 471 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: wise itself, it's there's something to be said about surviving 472 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: just the muck of Navy possessing the ball for forty 473 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: two minutes, like I can imagine for Notre Dame's defense, 474 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: and I would argue people watching this game, especially Notre 475 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: Dame fans, it was just like getting through a marathon 476 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: dinner party that you just don't want to be at. 477 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: Just like you avoid the religion, you'll avoid the politics. 478 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: You avoid like the touchy subjects in weird family fights. 479 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: You just stay out of it and eat your food, 480 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: clear your plate, and drive home. That's what That's what 481 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: I came away thinking. 482 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: I'd say that it's somewhat accurate, a little too close 483 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: for comfort for Notre Dame, because this was ugly, lethargic 484 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: football on another cold and rainy day, as we saw 485 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: again all throughout the college football world. You're right, Navy 486 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: held the ball for forty two minutes and forty two seconds. 487 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: They ran the ball seventy two times. Dan. Even if 488 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: you know that that's Navy's mo o that they like 489 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: to run the football, you still have to admire the 490 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: outright commitment to seventy two rushing attempts. That's something else. Absolutely, 491 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: I still don't trust Brandon Wimbush to make a big throw. Okay, 492 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why you would. Well, right, this has 493 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: been sort of a thing where we've gone back and 494 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: forth on it. Right, He's had flashes of brilliance. We 495 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: saw it a little bit in the beginning of the 496 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: Michigan State game. We've seen it here and there throughout 497 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: the season. There's no doubt the kid has talent. There's 498 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: also no doubt that he's not a thrower first, at 499 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: least not in this offense, at least not in this 500 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: iteration of the Notre Dame football season. It's just not 501 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: where he's at. Week he was one hopping screen passes. 502 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: Yesterday he was overthrowing receivers who were five feet away 503 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: from him, literally five feet away from him on little 504 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: flares out of the backfield. Brandon Wimbush needs to get 505 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: better as a thrower. That would be the next step 506 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: of this Notre Dame offense under Brian Kelly and Chiplong. 507 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: They got to figure that out in the offseason before 508 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: they're really ready to step up into primetime and maybe 509 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: be a true playoff contender. But right now, if the 510 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: run's not there, I'm not sure what happens. I'm very 511 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: curious to see where this game goes Next week against Stanford. 512 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, Gods, that game gonna be boring, It's gonna 513 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: be awful. It's the eight pm ABC game too. 514 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: How is your mindset? In two very distinct scenarios, how 515 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: is your mind like every time Navy had like a 516 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: third and three where you just like constantly, for the 517 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: love of God, please just guest. 518 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: Well, it's maddening. It's had the ball for eighteen minutes. 519 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Just get the damn ball back. I don't 520 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: care if you don't score, but just get the ball back. 521 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: How are you you at the end on that? I 522 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: guess lateral throw? Oh, I shrieked, I shrieked, A great 523 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 2: out call. I was like, I shrieked audibly, shrieked as 524 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: I was watching the game with friends, because that was 525 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: a brilliant play call. That was I guess that would 526 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: be the moment at the dinner party where an uncle 527 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: would turn to your wife or your husband or ever 528 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: like whatever happened to that Xi rs Todd, I liked him? 529 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: What's he up to? All right? We always like that guy. 530 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Twenty four to seventeen Notre Dame escapes the midshipman at home. 531 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: Big one next week for them against the Stanford Cardinal. 532 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: All right. Elsewhere in acc play, Virginia Tech twenty pit 533 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: fourteen pit had a chance to win on the final play. 534 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: They were down at the goal line. Virginia Tech stuffed 535 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: them oh brutal. Another case where the Tech offense was inconsistent, 536 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: but the defense stepped up and helped him win. Who 537 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: is the best? 538 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: And I say this in the context of the Pitt 539 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech game, and I don't think it's the answer, 540 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: But who is the best third string quarterback of twenty seventeen? 541 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm being very serious. This has been a very good 542 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: year for third string quarterbacks. 543 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean there are some teams like Maryland that are 544 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: on their fifth string at this point. 545 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Kyle Kempt at Iowa State. I would 546 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: argue it's probably the year of Kyle Kempt. 547 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 548 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: Canny Pickett had a totally nice day, right, Yeah, he 549 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: was pretty efficient for a third string quarterback. Trust me, 550 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: as somebody who's watched a lot of backup quarterback play 551 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: for Oregon, do not take for granted a solid third So. 552 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we're gonna put Blaxton Burmeister in here. 553 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I think Skyler Thompson for Kansas State, He's okay, you know, 554 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: Alex Denton and Jesse ERT's going down beats. Oklahoma State 555 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: gets hurt but has some amazing throws. 556 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I guess the big. 557 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: Twelve really probably takes home the third string quarterback Conference 558 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: of the year. I'm trying to think of other examples, 559 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: but I feel like we've used the phrase third string 560 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: a lot this year. 561 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: The backup to the backup better than the starter. 562 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I guess Brandon Peters. 563 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Peters. Yeah, good third strings. I haven't seen enough 564 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: of them, but no, he's shown promise. Yeah. I'm gonna 565 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: think about this all right. Uh, Okay. Some other courageous 566 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: acts in the ACC We had Clemson sixty one to 567 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: three over the Citadel. An interesting factoid here that mainly 568 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: interests ty Hildenbrandt. Clemson has now won ten games in 569 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: seven straight years, an amazing achievement for Dabosweeney. Also, the 570 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Citadel made three hundred K for the loss, so good 571 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: for them. We had for them Florida State seventy seven 572 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: to six over Delaware State. We had Louisville over Syracuse 573 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: fifty six to ten, A big game. Guess who Lamar 574 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: Jackson three eighty one and four touchdowns. He became these 575 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: schools all time yardage leader. We had Duke over Georgia Tech. 576 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: Good win from Duke, Yeah, BC over Yukon and wakeover 577 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: NC State. 578 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, I think BC is running the hell out 579 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: of the ball. Aj Dillon, to the surprise of nobody 580 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: at at this point, goes for two hundred and John 581 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: Hillman I suppose should watch any of this game, but 582 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: it appears John Hillman had a very nice day for 583 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: the for the BC Eagles. 584 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: So there's that and North Carolina. I don't want to 585 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: forget North Carolina. They won sixty five to ten over 586 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Western Carolina. Congratulations, Hey that Western Carolina. 587 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: Ha. 588 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Big twelve, the third stream quarterback 589 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: conference of the year. This was really the only upset 590 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: we had. K State forty five Oklahoma State forty Now, look, 591 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: you and I were texting about this game as well. 592 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: On the Wednesday show. We talked about the Jose Mesa ramifications, 593 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: the Jose Masa complex, Yeah, going on at Oklahoma State. 594 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: If Jose Masa isn't your cup of tea, maybe pick 595 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: out another unreliable baseball closer because the analogy truly fits 596 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: post Royds ganne It's rough. K State was a nineteen 597 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: and a half point dog in this game, Dan, and 598 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: they have questions quarterback. It seemed like a reasonable point spread, 599 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: but then Bill Snyder pulls the rabbit out of the hat. 600 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: His defense was able to keep Oklahoma State out of 601 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: sync for most of the football game. Skyler Thompson, who 602 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned, the freshman quarterback filling in for Jesse Ertz 603 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: and Alex Delton. He looked pretty good. Serve the park here. 604 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State almost came back. They were down big, they 605 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: almost came back and won this football game. 606 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: It's unfortunate for Oklahoma State because it just feels like 607 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: another Oklahoma State season, which ninety eight percent of college 608 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: football would happily take. And they're just you know, for 609 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: all of the progress of the offense at times defensively 610 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: they've been spotty and allowing too much, making too many 611 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 2: mistakes on offense early on in games. So it's, uh, 612 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: it's tricky, but good for Kansas State. They almost give 613 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: this game away. That to me was the bad clothes. 614 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: They almost give this game away. A nice job by 615 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State coming back, so I guess it would be like, yeah, 616 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: the the idea of Jose Mesa of an inning five 617 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: and runs, but the rest of the bullpen has the 618 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: flu so keep going, buddy, Yeah they yeah. 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Please. 651 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 652 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: The Kansas game plan, as I understand it, had one 653 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: objective yesterday, and that was toa troll Baker Mayfield and 654 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: hurt Baker Mayfield. Yeah. I don't think they drew up 655 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: any plays, Dan, They just wanted to piss off Baker 656 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Mayfield and hurt him if they could. To which end 657 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: I would say they were somewhat successful because it started 658 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: right from the jump. They refused to shake his hand 659 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: during the coin toss. Indeed, interesting decision. Then we had 660 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of jawling during the game. At one point 661 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: it did look like someone from Kansas took a cheap 662 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: shot at Baker's throwing shoulder, and as you might expect, 663 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: Baker did not react favorably to this. No, he responded 664 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: like the mature fifty year senior that he is, by 665 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: grabbing his crotch and yelling, f you, what else do 666 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: we got here? By telling Kansas fans in attendance that 667 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: they should stick to basketball, which is a personal favorite 668 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: of mine. I like that. I believe he saw at 669 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: one point that he may have challenged the entire Kansas 670 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: bench to a fight. Mm hmmm, something like that. I 671 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: appreciate the evil genius behind the Kansas game plan here. Yeah. Me, 672 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: as someone who took the tom or Nonaldi tearjerkers and 673 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: my fantasy things, I appreciate a little bit of evil 674 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: genius because everyone's got the buddy who runs his mouth off, 675 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: runs a little hot, and you think maybe you could 676 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: throw off his game if you just commit early to 677 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: getting in his head. 678 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: Hm. 679 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: There is a point, though, where I think it extends 680 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: beyond the trash talk and just turns into pure trash. 681 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: And I think that's where Kansas went with this, right. 682 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's cool to tell your friend that he 683 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: sucks at golf or basketball or whatever. It's not cool 684 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: to tell him that his girlfriend is ugly and that 685 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: you hope he dies alone. Did you learn this? Did 686 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: I learn this from personal experience? No, I've never told 687 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: a friend that his girlfriend's ugly and that I hope 688 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: he dies alone. 689 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, it's just very specific. 690 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 6: TI. 691 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: I thought a lot about this last night at midnight 692 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: when I was typing up my notes here, and so 693 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: my point, my only point, is that Kansas had a plan. 694 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't entirely a bad plan until they got a 695 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: little bit over the top with it, at which point 696 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: it just turned into poor sportsmanship. 697 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: I yeah, this is not great, not a great look 698 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: for Baker Mayfields. I want to get that out just 699 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: first of all. Ahead it like, but it's not a 700 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: great look for him. Everyone sort of knows that he 701 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: can be a bit of a punk here and there. 702 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: But I don't fully fault him because most of us 703 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: would have reacted the same way. 704 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand the crotch grab. That's never been a 705 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Tie Hildebrand favorite. But I understand dropping four letter words. 706 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: I understand running a little hot after it's a parent 707 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: that they don't like you, they're out to try and 708 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: hurt you. I get it from that standpoint. 709 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: So, first of all, I think you saying that's a 710 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: little bit disingenuous because at the National Championship every year 711 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: you walk by each and every radio show, grab your crotch, 712 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: I do you That's something that people now understand in 713 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: this industry right. Second of all, if we suddenly shift 714 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: the prism and shift the lens whatever, and start looking 715 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: at Bake Baker Mayfield like college football's Rick Vaughan aka 716 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: wild Thing, sure it makes a little bit of sense. 717 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: It really does. 718 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: Like if every single time Baker Mayfield came off the 719 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: field like a bunch of people around the tunnel, like 720 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: especially if the game's in Norman, We're like, I love 721 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: a wild Thing, you'd be like, oh yeah, that makes 722 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: total sense Faker Mayfield. So I say we just view 723 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: him through like if he shaved the Rick Vaughan like 724 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: neck triangles, whatever he needs. 725 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: To get he needs to get the gene jacket back 726 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: from his girlfriend Nikki's apartment, and then he's all. 727 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: Said, if he had a jean jacket with cut off sleeves, 728 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: came out onto the field on the back of a 729 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: motorcycle or something, the horn room glasses, if he had 730 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: the horn Room Glasses maybe come out with like on 731 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: a Harley behind the Sooner schooner and like two wild Thing. 732 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: It would be the most on brand way to sort 733 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: of flip the script of like Baker Mayfield's immature and 734 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: he's just like hell yeah I am, and he's just 735 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: like crushing beers on his head at halftime. I'd be 736 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: all in just a full on heel turn rebrand. Absolutely, 737 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: I'd be totally cool with that. So can we just 738 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: refer to Baker Mayfield as wild Thing moving forward? 739 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that we thought of this in week twelve. 740 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: We could have been running with this for twelve full weeks. Now, 741 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: well he had to give us twelve weeks of wild Thing. Okay, 742 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: wild Thing, Baker Mayfield, I love it. Yeah, what was 743 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: the score? Forty one or three? Oklahoma probably could have 744 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: scored ninety in this game? Yeah, if Lincoln Riley let 745 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: him go for it. But Kansas is one in ten, 746 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: been a bad year. Indeed. They are TCU twenty seven 747 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: Texas Tech three. Dan, I'm gonna ask the boys in 748 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: the truck to cue up some appropriate music. Oh, would 749 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: you mind reading off Texas Tech's offensive drives in this 750 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: football game. 751 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I forgot to do it during Wisconsin Michigan. 752 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: That's what everybody expected. So here it is Texas Tech 753 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: driving down the field, field goal, punt, punt, missed field goal, punt, punt, punt, punt, 754 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: missed field goal, fumble, interception, downs. 755 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: Downs. 756 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: There was only one downs there at the end, but 757 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: I want to emphasize ten plays forty nine yards downs. 758 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: They scored on their first drive, That's how they got 759 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: the three. After that they were totally shut out, totally 760 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: shut out TCU twenty seven to three. Sean Robinson, the 761 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: true freshman from Texas, got the start in place of 762 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: Ken Kenny Hill, who didn't make the trip right. He 763 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: made a difference with his legs in this game. Had 764 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: eighty four rushing guards, not so much through the air. 765 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: Not a great passing effort, but TCU gets the w 766 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: is Cliff Kingsbury done. 767 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: To me, It's a toss up. So who do they 768 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: finish the season? 769 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: We got a game next week against Texas. They finished the. 770 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So if they're able to pull it off against Texas, 771 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: who looked pretty good against West Virginia, albeit without Will 772 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 2: Greor we'll get to that momentarily, if they're able to 773 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: pull that one out in Austin and make a bowl game, 774 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: I think there's an okay chance that he hangs around. 775 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: But with how they started the year beating I mean, 776 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 2: Eastern Washington's nothing, you know at this point to sort 777 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: of put on a resume, but beating an Arizona State team, 778 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: beating Houston, who you know, subsequently does not look as 779 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: impressive as we thought they might be this year, and 780 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: beating Kansas and Baylor and not really getting above the 781 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: lowest tier in the Big Twelve in terms of wins. 782 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough progress. I don't know 783 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: what his buyout situation is, I don't know how his 784 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: interpersonal dealings are with the administration. But in terms of 785 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: pure performance, it's just no improve now. 786 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: It feels like they're treading Every season is exactly the same. 787 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: Especially when you when you constantly put out pretty good 788 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: offenses but can't translate that into wins. It's just I 789 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 2: don't know the expectation at Texas Tech, the expectation Lubbock 790 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: should be consistently going to bowl games, and they're not. 791 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: They're not. They're not. Well, we'll see what they do 792 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: next week against Texas Texas the Longhorns, they were on 793 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: the road at West Virginia and one twenty eight to fourteen. 794 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: Good to see Sam Ellinger out there, look good both 795 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: through the air and on the ground. Good to see 796 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: Connor Williams back from injury for the long Horns. And 797 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: sad to see that Big Bill Grier went down with 798 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: the broken finger on is throwing name fumble too, Yeah, 799 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: on a fumble and a touchback. He's gonna have surgery 800 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: on it. They're saying he'll be back in time for 801 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: West Virginia's bowl game, wherever that ends up being. So 802 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: that's at least a good thing. It also meant that 803 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: we got to see the Chris chug it Off experience 804 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: right for the Mountaineers, he was not able to generate 805 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot of offense. Again, your final score here, 806 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Texas twenty eight, West Virginia fourteen. 807 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 2: A very nice win, I would say for Texas there 808 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 2: now that got them to bowl eligibility, correct, yep, yeah, 809 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: that was their sixth win. They have an opportunity obviously 810 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: now against Texas Tech to go seven and five. I 811 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: think the defense week over week over week throughout the 812 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: season improved to the point where I think they're legitimately 813 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: good offensively a number of questions. I have trouble picturing 814 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: what this offense is going to look like when they're 815 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 2: fully operating to full capacity. I don't know what the 816 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: full on identity is, but there's time. It was Tom 817 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: Herman's first year. He got him to a Bowl, Charlie 818 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: Strong didn't, so I will I will reserve judgments to 819 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: see what their offense looks like next year. But to 820 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: go to Morgantown and win by a couple of touchdowns 821 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: and defensively look as good as they have, I'm encouraged. 822 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: And finally in Big twelve Country, we had Iowa State 823 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: twenty three bail or thirteen. It was Iowa State's seventh win. 824 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: They will have a crack at eight and four when 825 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: they continue the next great chapter. I believe the one 826 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: hundred and first consecutive meeting next week against Kansas State 827 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: in their rivalry could have yeah. 828 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 2: Depending on Skyler Thompson's South could have two third string quarterbacks, 829 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: if not a fourth string for Kansas State if none 830 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 2: of the other quarterbacks are good to go, and Iowa 831 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: State has a pretty good shot, albeit there on the road, 832 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: right at Kansas. 833 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: State on the road. 834 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a good shot of going eight and four, 835 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: possibly winning a ninth with the ballgame that is, that 836 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: is incredible. Zeb Nolan played yesterday for Iowa State and 837 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 2: was totally good. David Montgomery another workhorse effort. 838 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: Cool to see. And in the Pac twelve we had 839 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: USC twenty eight UCLA twenty three. This might have been 840 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: the best that UCLA looked on defense all year. Yeah, 841 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't know where it came from. Clearly they were 842 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: up for the challenge in a big rivalry game where 843 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: of course you need to throw out the records, right, 844 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: we know that always, always, always, So I don't know 845 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: if they were just preparing all year for this one 846 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: game or what the deal was, but they were able 847 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 1: to keep for the most part USC's run game in check. 848 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: And when I say that, Ronald Jones still had one 849 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two yards and two touchdowns. The problem 850 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: for Jim Mora is that UCLA is not a finished product, 851 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: and it's never been a finished product under his tutelage. 852 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,919 Speaker 1: They were okay on the ground yesterday and definitely better 853 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: on defense, but let's be honest here, it's all on 854 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen if they're going to win a game, and 855 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: he tried, God bless him. He tried with another game 856 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: over four hundred yards. It's all been in a losing effort. 857 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: They got to find some way if Jim Mora is 858 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: going to stay put. 859 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: Well on that note, ty, why don't you play the 860 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: breaking news sound No, we have. 861 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: Boo boo boo boo boo boop. 862 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: Uh So, Jim Mora is out at UCLA and if 863 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: God this makes it just savage. It's his birthday. But 864 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: after not really getting UCLA to the point in which 865 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: at which they to imagine their program would be after 866 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: a few years under Mora, he has been relieved of 867 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: his duties. That is UCLA's official word, UCLA's job. The 868 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: UCLA job in general will command a lot of interest 869 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: from a lot of big names from I think all 870 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: over the place because a lot of you, a lot 871 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: of people view the UCLA job as not necessarily a 872 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: sleeping giant, but a sleeping pseudo giant, which is pretty 873 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 2: impressive in college football. So the UCLA job is open, 874 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: and that is a high profile one and just add 875 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 2: them to the list of now with Florida and Tennessee 876 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 2: and what we assumed to be Nebraska, perhaps Arkansas or 877 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: miss It's going to be a very very heavy coaching 878 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 2: carousel season. So the UCLA job is open, and I 879 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 2: imagine some big names will be interested. 880 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: I guess not that big of a surprise. We kind 881 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: of knew things were going sideways at UCLA. We will 882 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: talk much much more about that, I'm sure on future shows. 883 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: Moving on, Stanford seventeen Cal fourteen, the big rivalry game. 884 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: Statistically speaking, in this football game, it was dead even 885 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: and that's not just a figure of speech. Pull up 886 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: the box score and take a look at this game 887 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: if you're bored. The numbers are virtually identical for both 888 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: teams here, right down to them both being six or 889 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: twelve and third downs. This was an even contest here. 890 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, it absolutely was. And Stanford had that key 891 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: fourth down conversion late. I think it was with Cameron 892 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: Scarlett because Bryce's love was again hobbled cetto record I 893 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: think for a fifty plus yard runs in a season, 894 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: which is just ridiculous. But yeah, it seemed like Cal 895 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: was gonna take control of the game, and you know that. 896 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: I think it was in the first half. That doint 897 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 2: field goal really ended up mattering a lot. But yeah, 898 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: Cal ran the ball super well against Stanford. It was 899 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: it was cool to see an a rivalry game. Not 900 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: all that difficult to go into Palo Alto and win, 901 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: just in terms of atmosphere. But uh hey, now Stanford 902 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: has a good shot to end up in that title game. 903 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, Washington thirty three Utah thirty this was 904 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: a true Pac twelve after dark kind of game. Man 905 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: ten points in the last minute, ten points in the 906 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: last minute, a crazy finish. Washington comes from behind to 907 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 2: knock off Utah. Jake Browning looked good at crunch time. 908 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: He needed a fourth down conversion to sort of get 909 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: rolling and get some momentum behind him, but he did 910 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 2: come through in the clutch. The only other thing that 911 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: I'll add here, Utah remains a giant mystery for me. Yeah, 912 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: a huge mystery every year, a huge mystery. 913 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 1: I just cannot figure them out. They're back home next 914 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: week against Colorado in a battle between two five and 915 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: six teams, so Bowl eligibility is going to be on 916 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: the line. I don't know what to make of Utah. 917 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm a little unclear as to what to make of 918 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: Washington as well at this point, Dan. 919 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Utah has the reputation of always being 920 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 2: pretty good, and if you are showing cracks, they can 921 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: take advantage. This year, they just showed too many of 922 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 2: their own cracks. I mean, the Tyler Huntley injury didn't help, 923 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 2: and he was a little slow to come back even 924 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: when he was playing for the Utes and Washington. I 925 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 2: think injuries on defense, you know, teams were able to 926 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: take advantage, like Utah was of a pretty young and 927 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 2: new secondary. I know the safeties are pretty good. Taylor 928 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: rapp Is, you know, a big time playmaker, but corner wise, 929 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, they're still getting healthier there, and they lost 930 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 2: a ton of talent in the secondary last year. Azeem Victor, 931 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: who was thought to be their best returning linebacker, he 932 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: was suspended indefinitely. And so just a lot of attrition 933 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 2: on Washington's defense and no John Ross takes away Jake 934 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 2: Browning's enormous weapon from last year, and they've struggled just 935 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: everywhere to be consistent, I think outside of the running game, 936 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: but they struggled with you know, on the ground yesterday 937 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: against Utah, Miles Gaskin didn't do all that much. And 938 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: it's funny when a team loses closely to Utah, which 939 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: is pretty rare because man Utah and close games has 940 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: not been good recently, or just survives. Utah fans are 941 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 2: very quick to be like, hey, listen, record doesn't tell 942 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: the full story. Utah's you're in and you're out. They're tough, 943 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: but you does not great this year. They're just they're fine. 944 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: They look like they'll make a bowl. Washington looks like 945 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: a top twenty team, but at this point it's hard 946 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 2: to say that they belong in any sort of conference 947 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 2: championship or even national spotlight. So agreed, good good, good 948 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 2: for Utah. Washington has Chris Peterson and a ton of talent, 949 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: and the long term prognosis for you, dub is very 950 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: should be very high, very good. 951 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: Oregon forty eight Arizona twenty eight. Justin Herbert finally able 952 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: to get back at it after getting hurt earlier in 953 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: the year for the most party, very successful first game back. 954 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: He had a long touchdown run for Oregon's first score 955 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: of the day. He had a long touchdown pass in 956 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: the second quarter. I don't know, I mean, you probably 957 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: watched the game more intently than I did. I thought 958 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: he looked fine, more importantly Dan, and this cannot be 959 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: underscored enough. Please looked a little better than Braxton Burmeister. 960 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, just maybe by the thinnest of margins. 961 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to try not to make fun of a 962 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: true freshman who very much struggled in the offense and 963 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 2: thrust into a position he was not ready for. But no, 964 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: I thought Justin Herbert looked excellent. He did not show 965 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 2: really any jitterous. He had a forty yard run for 966 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 2: a time touchdown early on. They have like a reverse 967 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: flea flicker type play that goes for fifty and sets 968 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 2: of a touchdown at the goal line. Royce Freeman and 969 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 2: Tony Brooks Shames are both good. Arguably Tony Brooks James 970 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 2: may have been better. Shows a little bit more burst. 971 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 2: What do you call him, Tony Brook's flames? 972 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: Tony Brooks flames. Thank you, Tony Brooks flames. Of course. 973 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: No, the big thing in this game was defensively. How 974 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: many yards did Khalil Tate run for? I believe that 975 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: would be thirty two. 976 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: It was thirty two yards. 977 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: Now, there's always a possibility that somebody like Khalil Tate 978 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: came into this game a little bit nicked up, little hesitant, 979 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 2: wasn't able to put weight on something. 980 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 981 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 2: Maybe it was one hundred percent, I don't know, but 982 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: even Khalil Tate, not one hundred percent, was completely held 983 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: down by this Oregon defense. They tackled super well on 984 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: the perimeter. They made him give the ball off on 985 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: every single read type play, and for the most part, 986 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: this Oregon defense came to play. I know they gave 987 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: up twenty eight, but I don't know if they gave 988 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: up much in the second half. I think just a 989 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: touchdown in the second half. So a really nice defensive 990 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 2: effort against a pretty good team in Arizona, and Oregon 991 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: is now eligible for a ball. They will beat Oregon States. 992 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: I feel confidence in that. 993 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. 994 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: And they will finish seven and five in a what 995 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: could have been type year if Justin Herbert were healthy 996 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 2: against say, you know, UCLA and Washington State. 997 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps. 998 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 2: So a really nice day for Oregon and good to 999 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 2: have a starting quarterback back. 1000 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 1: It's very good. I would also like to add more 1001 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: about the Oregon defense because it's quietly been a very 1002 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: good story. They have improved over where they were a 1003 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: year ago. That's not saying a whole lot because they 1004 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: were dreadful year ago, but they clearly have gotten better. Eugene, 1005 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: Oregon dan not necessarily known as the graveyard for dark 1006 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: horse Heisman candidates, but sure in holding Khalil Tate down 1007 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: the way they did, I think all the little Tatamaniacs 1008 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: out they are going to have to going to have 1009 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: to find something else to root for. I don't think 1010 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: it's happened for Khalil. 1011 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: I am hopeful that Willie Taggart and this coaching staff 1012 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: are long for Eugene. 1013 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, And finally in the PAC twelve we had as 1014 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: you forty, Oregon State twenty four. Finally in the SEC 1015 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: Alabama fifty six, Mercer zero, Auburn forty two, Louisiana Monroe fourteen. 1016 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: Not a ton to take away. Dylan Moses had a 1017 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 2: nice day for Alabama, starting at a middle linebacker as 1018 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 2: a trooper. 1019 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: I stole my thunder. I was going there with that. 1020 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: Dylan Moses, the blue chip freshman. We all know about 1021 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: some of the woes that Alabama has in the linebacking 1022 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: corps due to injury. Dylan Moses stepping in led the 1023 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: game eleven tackles, had four tackles for loss, one interception. 1024 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: Granted it was just mercer, but still good to see 1025 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: him stepping in making a positive contribution. Yeah. 1026 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 2: Not a lot of people know this about Dylan Moses type, 1027 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: but he committed to play quarterback four lane Kiff in 1028 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. So just to see how far he's come, 1029 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 2: it's been. It's been a treat. 1030 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: The big game will be next week, the Iron Bowl, 1031 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: which we will preview a little bit earlier in this week. 1032 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. What else we got here? 1033 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: Georgia forty two Kentucky thirteen. A big collective day for 1034 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle twenty seven carries, two hundred 1035 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 1: and thirty eight yards and five touchdowns. Dan. 1036 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, slow start for the Georgia offense and Jake from 1037 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes, but got their act together and 1038 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 2: just ran straight at through around, under over Kentucky and 1039 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 2: distance themselves. 1040 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: Mississippi State twenty eight, Arkansas twenty one. Dan Arkansas led. 1041 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: They led until about four minutes left. I was thinking November. 1042 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 6: Ord Alana Rotig. 1043 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 7: Ord Alana Rotig, Hey we. 1044 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: Gotta play these sounds while we can. Yeah, we have 1045 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: to enjoy November while it lasts. Arkansas led until late 1046 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: in this game. That's when Nick Fitzgerald hit Reginald Todd 1047 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: on a thirty seven yard touchdown pass, which tied it 1048 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: at twenty one to twenty one. Nick fitz followed with 1049 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 1: another touchdown pass, this one with just seventeen seconds left. 1050 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: That gave the right here I wrote Wildcats, They're not 1051 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 1: the wildcats. Nope. That gave the Bulldogs tough road win 1052 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: here in Fayette Vilt. Twenty eight to twenty one was 1053 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 1: your final. I think the bigger story is still Jeff 1054 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: Long getting let go earlier in the week and what 1055 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: ramifications that might have long term on the Arkansas program. 1056 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that it's probably some sort of 1057 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 2: future looking disagreement about the direction of the program and 1058 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 2: who they perhaps might hire, because it was apparent when 1059 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 2: when Jeff Long was there that Repilamo will probably not 1060 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: to coach next year, and now there's all sorts of 1061 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: rumors about Gosmlesan and who knows. But now Jeff Long 1062 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 2: is just a playoff committee. 1063 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: Member, all right? LSU thirty Tennessee ten allow me to 1064 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: put on my David Caruso sunglasses here for a second. 1065 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: Please Dan, when it rains, it pours. Okay, that was 1066 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: my sads, That was my little bit that I had 1067 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: worked up for this game. We had a big time, 1068 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: big time on soon game in Knoxville. I don't know 1069 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: how much of this game you watch, but holy cowed, 1070 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: did it rain? Yeah? 1071 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 2: Not a ton good win for als you to survive 1072 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: the elements and come away with a comfortable win. Tennessee 1073 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: probably didn't have any sort of expectations coming into this game, 1074 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,879 Speaker 2: and you know, Guarantana was all right. But yeah, good 1075 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: good win for LSU. Survive and go on to Texas 1076 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 2: A and M next. 1077 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: Week Texas A and M thirty one Ole Miss twenty four. 1078 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: This is a good game. I enjoyed it. This is 1079 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: a good game. A and M took Jordan Tamu out 1080 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: of rhythm. They got after them all game. They forced 1081 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: a couple of mistakes. Their first road win in November 1082 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: in two years for A and M. Takes you back. 1083 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: It does. They'll get a chance to do it again 1084 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: next week on the road. As you mentioned against LSU, 1085 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: that one's in Death Valley at night, so it'll be 1086 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: a tough environment, to say the least, but a fun game, 1087 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: a good win for A and M. 1088 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nick Starkele has been pretty good since he 1089 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 2: came back. Gives them an element through the air that 1090 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they necessarily had the first half of 1091 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 2: the year. Damian Radley and Christian Kirk both had very 1092 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: nice days. 1093 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: And finally we had South Carolina thirty one, Wafford ten, 1094 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: and Missouri forty five Vanderbilt seventeen. Let's take a knee 1095 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: here and talk about Missouri for a second. Lats started 1096 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 1: the year one and five. Bury otom gave that impassioned 1097 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a post game talk whatever, 1098 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: it was some press conference to the media about how 1099 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: he's the guy to turn it around. They steadied the ship, 1100 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: they ripped off five in a row. They're six and five, 1101 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: They've qualified for a bowl. They've got Arkansas next week, 1102 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: which could very easily make it a seven and five season. Meanwhile, 1103 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: the run game's been pretty good. Drew lock three more 1104 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. He is thirty eight on the year. If 1105 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: he gets to forty, he will be the thirty ninth 1106 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: player in the history of college football to throw for 1107 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: forty touchdowns in a season. 1108 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 1109 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, not the most accurate day against the Vandy defense. 1110 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: But Drew Locke I. 1111 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 2: Would argue, even in a not terrific division, probably one 1112 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 2: of the fifteen or twenty. 1113 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: Best quarterbacks easily, easily. Yeah. And speaking of quarterbacks, Florida 1114 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: thirty six UAB seven. 1115 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Eddie Pinero five field goals, five field goals, That's 1116 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: all I got, man? 1117 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: What else do we got here? Anything? Ty? We always 1118 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: have so much. 1119 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, did you see the Colgate pat 1120 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: Patriot League championships? 1121 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: Pretty great? Pretty great? 1122 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee High b Lafayette thirty eight thirty one. That 1123 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 2: was closer than the experts predicted. 1124 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: Tie. Oh, definitely. 1125 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 2: I think they came in with the same record in conference. Yeah, 1126 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 2: I don't. There's not a lot to say about the 1127 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 2: Pat League. But yeah, Fresno with another nice win, they're 1128 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: going to be Boise in the As we mentioned, the 1129 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,479 Speaker 2: Mount West championship game in two weeks a week after 1130 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 2: they just played Boise during the regular season, So it 1131 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 2: was a Wyoming team, I believe without Josh Allen. He 1132 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 2: was injured and did not play for the Cowboys, and 1133 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 2: sort of in terms of what they were expecting. Kind 1134 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 2: of a last year for Wyoming, Colorado State very quietly 1135 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: just putting points on everybody. Boise State, as you know, 1136 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 2: we've alluded to in previous weeks after that debacle against Virginia, 1137 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: they just haven't lost in the Mountain West, so they 1138 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 2: could be a lurking team if something were to happen. 1139 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1140 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 2: The UCF USF game is ugly whatever for a group 1141 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 2: of five shot, you know, I don't think it's too late. 1142 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 2: Northern Illinois a nice win. They go to six and 1143 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: one in the MAC and that includes or not the 1144 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 2: MAC part. But their season includes a win over Nebraska, 1145 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 2: which is certainly something that they can hang their hat on. 1146 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Sort of Houston lost, Tye. I saw that Houston not 1147 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: a great year for Major Applewaite in his first year. 1148 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 2: U see F a huge win over Temple, and I 1149 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 2: guess it's kind of a trap spot right a little bit. 1150 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Temple's been pretty bad this year. Though they're not great. 1151 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 2: They've improved throughout the course of the year. I think 1152 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 2: they're five and six now, so they were five and 1153 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 2: five coming in, but a week before, you know, a 1154 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: short week and a game against US F who won 1155 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: during the week either Thursday or Friday night, a good 1156 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: defense for USF and a good defensive performance. Tulane was 1157 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 2: the team that beat Houston, by the way, a nice 1158 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: improved year. I'm trying to see anyone else that stood 1159 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 2: out to me. Oh huge day. Did you see You 1160 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 2: probably didn't watch much of this game. You maybe caught 1161 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 2: a few minutes here and there. But the North Texas 1162 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Army Oh yeah, oh god, so many yards Mason. Fine, 1163 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: So they will be playing FAU who won the Shula 1164 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Cup in the the Conference USA championship game. So there's 1165 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 2: that that I mean, that feels like it's gonna be 1166 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: a fun shootout. He points, points points type game. Outside 1167 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 2: of that, I don't I don't have much tie. Colgate 1168 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 2: is your PATRIOLETU champion. 1169 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see doodle worts. 1170 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Okay, give it to me. 1171 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: I've got so many dudes. 1172 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Rare shot Penny had a ridiculous all purpose day and 1173 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 2: a winning effort for San Diego State. I think both 1174 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 2: on the ground and in the return game. He had 1175 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: four hundred and some on yards. Just continues his ridiculous run. 1176 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Aj Dillon for b C goes for two hundred Mason Fine, 1177 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 2: North Texas quarterback throws a bajillion yards for the Mean 1178 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: Green a mud. Bradshaw in that very same game for 1179 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Army runs for a ton of yardage. He has been 1180 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 2: consistently unbelievably productive. Justin Jackson, the Northwestern running back, has 1181 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 2: been there forever and is putting up forever type yards 1182 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 2: and records. And another good game against Minnesota. Connor Williams, 1183 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the Texas starting left tackle, the NFL type talent not 1184 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 2: only comes back. 1185 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,439 Speaker 1: Did you see him dance? I did? 1186 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: He danced? And for that reason he but a dude. 1187 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Eddie Pinero, the kicker for Florida mister offense in Gainesville 1188 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Jordan lastly has had a dude season, as we mentioned, 1189 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 2: had another dude game for the Bruins against usc Chakeem Griffin. 1190 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 2: Shaquem Griffin, who, if you haven't read Andy Staples feature 1191 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 2: about him, the UCF linebacker who happens to have one 1192 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 2: hand it very much does not define him because he 1193 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: rex shop for UCF defensively. He had another huge game 1194 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: against Temple Byron Pringle, who we mentioned has had a 1195 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 2: consistently good year. Ross Blacklock led a sterling defensive effort 1196 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: for TCU. Their defensive tackle, Sutton Smith made every single 1197 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 2: play for Northern Illinois in that great defense and now 1198 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: leads the nation in sacks and tackles for loss. Tyrol Crosby, 1199 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 2: who decided to come back for his senior year for 1200 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Oregon starting left tackle, completely drove Arizona defenders into the 1201 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 2: ground and led the way for three hundred and fifty 1202 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 2: three rushing yards. Josh Rosen. Of course, we mentioned Derek 1203 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Tucker for textas a and m all over the field 1204 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 2: for the Aggies. The safety was Kurt i Anchored for Virginia, 1205 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Malik Williams for Louisville. It was not just a Lamar 1206 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Jackson show. He was ridiculous, and mostly because he had 1207 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 2: a great day, but also because I enjoy his name 1208 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 2: very much. Nevada's Brendan O'Leary orange cotton bajillion passes for 1209 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 2: a bajillion yards. Those are your dudes? 1210 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,479 Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, thank you to everyone for tweeting those in 1211 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: and thank you to the dudes themselves for giving us 1212 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: something to be excited about. In College Football Week twelve, 1213 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Week thirteen, as you know, his rivalry week, what do 1214 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: you gotta do? You got to throw out all the record. 1215 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: It's not gonna play the sound again. I don't want 1216 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: to wear it out. We're gonna play plenty of times, 1217 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure when we get to our week thirteen preview. 1218 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: But where I'm going with this, yes, is because it 1219 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving week. We always have a bit of a 1220 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: conundrum like when do we want to put the show out. 1221 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: We want to give people enough of an opportunity to 1222 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: listen to our week twelve recap before putting out the 1223 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: week thirteen preview. So what we're gonna do, I believe 1224 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: record on Monday night, will publish the show on Tuesday morning, 1225 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: so that people have a chance to you know, listen 1226 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: to this show and then download and in bibe our 1227 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: other show. Whether they're in the bird on the way 1228 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: to visit family and friends in another state, city, or country. 1229 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Maybe they're just on a long car ride over to 1230 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: grandma's house. 1231 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 2: Maybe you're just cooking some stuffing up and want to 1232 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 2: be entertained. 1233 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to make sure that everybody is well 1234 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: equipped with plenty of verbal on their podcast application so 1235 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: that they can listen and get all their they're fixings 1236 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: of college football. Here, here's what you have to look 1237 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,439 Speaker 1: forward to ty. You got the Egg Bowl. 1238 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 2: You've got clear Lock Miami losing to pitt On Friday, 1239 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what that's a noon or on Friday 1240 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 2: you have the huge usf UCF game. 1241 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I think that's an ABC game. 1242 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: The War on I four. Yeah, you got the iron Ball. 1243 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 2: On Saturday, Clemson South Carolina, the battle for the Palmetto State. 1244 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if that'll be crazy, but it's at 1245 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: South Carolina, so I think it's certainly worth watching Notre 1246 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Dame Stanford if you must. Georgia Georgia Tech always seems 1247 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 2: a little bit tricky for the dogs, so I would 1248 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 2: not not watch that game. Ohio State Michigan might not 1249 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 2: be great, but you know what, it's Ohio State Michigan 1250 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 2: and you got to throw those records out. You got 1251 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Apple Cup with major implications, the old Oaken bucket, the 1252 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: old Oaken bucket tie. Never overlook the old Oaken bucket. 1253 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, got two new coaches in that matchup. It'll 1254 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: be interesting, it'll be fun, it'll be new. 1255 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: A lot going on next week, so we hope you'll 1256 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: stay with us. Don't forget. You can subscribe to the 1257 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: show for free anywhere you can find fine podcasts. You 1258 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: can also follow us on Facebook, on Twitter, and on Instagram. 1259 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out the subreddit as well if 1260 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: you're interested. At reddit dot com, slash or slash Solid 1261 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Verbal a community buy verballers, four Verballers, and finally, I 1262 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: promise I'll quit my little spiel after this. You can 1263 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: buy soliverble T shirts now until November twenty. First, those 1264 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: shirts will be on sale through our friends over at 1265 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: Cotton Bureau. We've posted the link countless times now we'll 1266 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: continue posting it again. Tuesday's the last day if you're interested, Yes, 1267 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday's last. 1268 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,959 Speaker 2: Weness say, as the time of this recording, two days, 1269 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 2: seven hours, forty one minutes and fifty three seconds. So 1270 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 2: if you want one of the new designs, I suggest 1271 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 2: you go to Cotton Bureau and look up Solid Verbal 1272 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 2: and the older design from earlier this year, the radio 1273 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 2: design that is available for a little while longer. That 1274 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: is the bonus sale. So that is available. I'm seeing 1275 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 2: right now for another well, it's not loading tipe, but 1276 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 2: it's available for oh, it looks like another couple weeks. 1277 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 2: So if you want the new design two days, you 1278 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 2: want the older one. 1279 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: A couple weeks. Yeah, so make sure you get those shirts. Actually, 1280 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: we should do we should do a bit of a 1281 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: hybrid secret verbal today. 1282 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a couple to give away, don't we. 1283 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I want to do something different, Okay. I don't want 1284 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: to do the traditional secret verbal where we throw out 1285 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: a word or an image or a target and say, hey, 1286 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: go out there and spam them. I don't want to 1287 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: do that. Why don't we give away some free shirts 1288 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to people who actually listen to this show? 1289 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Yes, so we have an offer code for a free 1290 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 2: shirt of the new Green one and an offer code 1291 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 2: for the classic throwback one of Classic. So how do 1292 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 2: you suppose we should give these away? 1293 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 7: Whoo? 1294 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I think we should probably do some sort of 1295 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: like email essay contest. Wow. Yeah, I want people to 1296 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: work for it. How about Yeah, how about this? 1297 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 2: You have to email us and you can say this 1298 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 2: is a no go, but email us with the most 1299 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: exotic not necessarily location, but some sort of combination of 1300 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 2: location and situation. 1301 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Where are you going with this where you listen to 1302 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like the in the bedroom too. 1303 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were talking about sexy time. 1304 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Just try to make sure but it helps if you do. Okay, No, 1305 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: just give us some. 1306 01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Story of either how you discovered the show and subsequently listen. Yeah, 1307 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 2: something interesting about your your listening routine, or some sort 1308 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 2: of far fetched unusual place or situation in which you've listened. 1309 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 1: It's got to be through email, and it's got to 1310 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 1: be solid verbal at gmail dot com. Yes, if you're interested, 1311 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: send in your stories and we'll give it a couple 1312 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: days and we'll pick out our favorites. Could be g rated, 1313 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: could be NC seventeen, never know, never know, all right, 1314 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: you know the drill soliverble at gmail dot. 1315 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 2: Com and men's and women's size is available. 1316 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: By the way, men's and women's sizes are available there. 1317 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 7: You go. 1318 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I got, Dan, fun Show. I'll talk 1319 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow. Actually, yeah, we're gonna record this again. 1320 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: M hm will we will? I guess speak with you soon. 1321 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: On that note, for that guy over there, my good 1322 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ti Hillebrand, thanks again for 1323 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 1: bearing with us. We'll talk to you soon. In the meantime, 1324 01:08:50,680 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: stay solid, peace, kitted