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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're presented by win Bet.

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Speaker 1: Betty is a team sport butt together at win Bet,

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Speaker 1: Eric Allen and Ethan Greenberg Here at One Jets Drive

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Speaker 1: joined by Lejay Duzable. Where is dues this morning? Last

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Speaker 1: week was Momobile Alabama. I got a feeling you're out

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Speaker 1: on the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: I am on the West Coast, EA, and Ethan, I

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Speaker 2: am in Sin City, Las Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, how are people going to be able to

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Speaker 1: follow you this week?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Because you're one of the busiest guys covering the National

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Speaker 1: Football League.

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Speaker 2: You know you can always find me on social man

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Speaker 2: at lij DuSable on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. It's l

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Speaker 2: b l e A. A lot of good content coming

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Speaker 2: out this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I loved your post on Instagram. You're there

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Speaker 1: at the Bolagio. It looked like Ocean's twelve or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I thought George Clooney was gonna.

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Speaker 4: Come out of the cour I like the TikTok plug not.

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Speaker 5: I feel like not a lot of people put out

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Speaker 5: their tiktoks, but dudes.

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Speaker 4: Just did I like that. I'm might have to start

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Speaker 4: incorporating that.

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Speaker 3: Got to every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Census is a Jets podcast. I know the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs are playing in San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers on Sunday. We'll get to that in a moment. Dudes,

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Speaker 1: how did the New York Jets get to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 3: You got to build it from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: And you know, me and Ethan had a conversation with

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Speaker 2: Mobile and just knowing Joe D's makeup, he really kind

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Speaker 2: of wants to rectify this offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Now say his credit, he has tried to do that.

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people will scoff at that,

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Speaker 2: but he's brought in multiple guys, right, He's used draft

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Speaker 2: capital in that offensive line. But you gotta have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of luck. And when I say, luk, people

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Speaker 2: have to stay healthy. Right when you look at a

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Speaker 2: guy like AVT, who's struggled to stay healthy these last

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Speaker 2: couple of years. You look at my cop bag and

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Speaker 2: who was coming back from injury and this was kind

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Speaker 2: of like his first full year coming back. Like they've

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Speaker 2: had issues with their guys that they've taken in the

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Speaker 2: first round staying healthy. So like when you build up

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Speaker 2: that continuity, you got to have people that are around

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Speaker 2: to build a continuity. Right, It's hard to build continuity

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Speaker 2: if guys that you've picked with premium picks or in

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Speaker 2: free agency, they aren't there to take reps. So I

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Speaker 2: know Joe d will look at that offensive line I mean,

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Speaker 2: and Ethan we went over a few prospects. I know

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Speaker 2: we'll go over it today that I think can help

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Speaker 2: with that number ten overall pick. And I actually have

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Speaker 2: another scenario that I kind of wanted to put out there,

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Speaker 2: you know, when the time is right for this podcast.

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Speaker 3: In regardless, look at you, I think, Yeah, what I

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Speaker 3: think the Jets should do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Greens, your thoughts? Jets seven and ten this season,

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Speaker 1: seven and ten for the second consecutive campaign, obviously losing

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers four snaps into Week one against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: So you can get Rogers back, But what else does

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Speaker 1: this team have to do not only to hopefully aspire

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Speaker 1: for the first time in thirteen years?

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, I think outside of the offensive line, just

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Speaker 5: because Dues talked about it, I think it's been pretty

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Speaker 5: well documented how the Jets want to build their team.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people, both internally and externally

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Speaker 5: would point.

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Speaker 4: To wide receivers just because of the lack of production.

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Speaker 5: I'd say over the course of seventeen games, and Garrett

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Speaker 5: Wilson's a great player, I think that he'll be even

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Speaker 5: better with Aaron Rodgers, for sure. And I know a

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Speaker 5: lot of people, like fans wise down on the year

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Speaker 5: that Alan Lazard had. I think that Lazard probably would

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Speaker 5: say it's not his best year. But I do think

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Speaker 5: that with Aaron Rodgers in the fold, in that offense

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Speaker 5: that you know that both of them know very well,

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Speaker 5: I think he'll have a better season than twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: And I think that after that the Jets probably going

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Speaker 5: like there's some names out there, one of them plays

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Speaker 5: in the city where Dues is right now that I

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Speaker 5: think a lot of fans are looking at, and especially

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Speaker 5: giving up seventeen or he's just the yeah seventeen to

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Speaker 5: five Thomas Morse said says he's passing the torch with

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Speaker 5: lot of conspiracy theories, but I think those are the

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Speaker 5: two positions that the Jets will look to add at

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Speaker 1: Dude, is interesting offseason ahead for the Jets because on

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Speaker 1: the surface, you certainly can play around with contracts. We

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Speaker 1: know that, but the Jets don't enter this offseason with

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Speaker 1: a ton of cap space and you got decisions ahead

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Speaker 1: on guys. The list starts, I think with Bryce Off

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Speaker 1: We all agree with that, but then you can go

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Speaker 1: excuse me, and Ashton Davis. He's also he also has

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Speaker 1: an expiring contract. And how about Special Teams Greg Zerline

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Speaker 1: Thomas Morris said, they the best collective kicking year in

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Speaker 1: as does Special Teams Ace Justin Hardy. So that's where

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Speaker 1: my free agency spotlight starts for the Jets. Duce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then one more area you can throw in

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Speaker 2: there that you didn't mention EA was defensive tackle Quentin Jefferson,

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Speaker 2: Solomon Thomas both for agents out Wood. So you're talking

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Speaker 2: about everybody that took reps next to Quinn Williams being

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Speaker 2: a free agent, right. And I put this up on

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Speaker 2: Twitter the other day, I think, and me and Ethan

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Speaker 2: talked about it in Mobile branden fist makes a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense in the third round. A lot of Jet

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Speaker 2: spend another, you know, premium pick on a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, guys, who's playing next to Quinn Williams

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Speaker 2: next year? Like there needs to be somebody that can

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Speaker 2: grow with him inside that way, you just don't have

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Speaker 2: an influx of defensive tackles changing out.

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Speaker 3: Year in the year out. Now.

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Speaker 2: The good thing is, even though there has been turnover there,

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Speaker 2: they've actually had a good They've had good production from

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Speaker 2: I look for the just to maybe sign him again

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Speaker 2: he had a career year with the Jets this year,

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Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see what you know, his

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Speaker 2: able to bring him back? But to me, I was like,

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Speaker 2: you guys are insane, Like what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Don't draft the d tackle in the third round. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying don't take one at the number ten pick,

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Speaker 2: but I think in the third round it makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense. Now, I know receiver is a big

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Speaker 2: need as well, and Ethan smoke about that. Could there

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Speaker 2: be a potential trade could they maybe get somebody in

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley's name has been put out there at Bunch

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Speaker 2: as well. He'll be a free agent. T Higgins is

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Speaker 2: another guy. We'll see what the Cincinnati Bengals do with him.

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Speaker 2: Do they end up tagging him or not? If not,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be a marque name on the block. And

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Speaker 2: But Brayden Fisk in the third round makes so much

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Speaker 2: Quinton Wis right now, somebody's gotta play next to him

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Speaker 1: That is a really good point. And you brought up

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Speaker 1: a great point about Quentin Jefferson. It seems like Robert

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Speaker 1: Salad told me this earlier this year that hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: when guys joined the Jets along that defensive line, they

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Speaker 1: end up having a career year. And DU's just mentioned

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Speaker 1: it before. Not only was it Quentin Jefferson having a

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Speaker 1: well in this system. So and then obviously we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line. So three guys expiring contracts at

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Speaker 1: the top of that list, that's Mkai Becked and Dwayne Brown,

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Speaker 5: I just want to add this about Braiden Fisk because

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Speaker 5: Duees talked about him.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get to the senior boy, I know, but

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Speaker 4: but it's topical.

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Speaker 5: It's that Jim Nagy said that he was the first

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Speaker 5: the national roster got so depleted, which is the one

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Speaker 5: that Jeff Ulbrough coached that Brandon Fisk was practicing all

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Speaker 4: So for what it's worth, it is just kind of

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Speaker 4: a cool story there.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of the Jets offensive line, I totally

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Speaker 5: I think about offensive line in terms of free agency

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Speaker 5: and the draft specifically, my biggest question is how many

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Speaker 5: along the line immediately. Because the Jets right now, structurally

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Speaker 5: And also when you factor in free agency, like I

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Speaker 5: agency you pay. Adam schefter Tol said this once in

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Speaker 5: He said, free agency you play, you pay a level

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Speaker 5: think that's really where my mind is is how do

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Speaker 5: you balance getting someone that you know what they are

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Speaker 5: be really good in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have time to talk about free agency

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Speaker 1: or here in a couple of weeks, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put the card ahead of the horse as

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Speaker 1: far as the draft is concerned. But we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a lot about draft here. But before we continue, dudes,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the offensive line

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Speaker 1: in terms of the pieces that you actually can build around.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you mentioned Avt. I think we're all in

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Speaker 1: agreement that when this guy is on the field, the

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Speaker 1: Jets are a different in ball club. They want to

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Speaker 1: find a permanent home for him. What did you see

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Speaker 1: from Joe Tipman this year? And also, would you say

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Speaker 2: all comes down to, tinkering those numbers and figuring out

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Speaker 2: can we move a little money here, what can we

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Speaker 2: because to Ethan's point, right, Aaron Rodgers is getting up

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Speaker 3: You got a nice core young group.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is after next year, Briesaw and Gary

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Speaker 2: So you got to figure something out cat wise, right,

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Speaker 2: And then we talked about building pieces. ABT talked about

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Speaker 3: Just had some bad luck with players going down.

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Speaker 2: Right, when you talk about Macy Becton being the first

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, man, And I feel for.

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Speaker 2: even Brisaw, like Breeshall had to get over that and

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Speaker 3: But you talked about a EA.

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Speaker 2: He is a foundational piece of guy that literally can

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Speaker 2: needs to be solidified at once spot, whether it's right

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Speaker 2: do that. And Joe Tipman Man, Yeah, I remember we're

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Speaker 2: And I always thought he was a perfect fit for

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Speaker 2: maybe just won this whole season. That is ridiculous for

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Speaker 2: definitely foundational pieces. Again, they got to figure out where

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Speaker 2: they're going to put Abt ad it they're going to

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Speaker 2: saw them innute right tagle, where they're gonna saw them

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Speaker 2: they're gonna do with Lincoln Tomlinson's contract. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I think left tackle will be something they look at,

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Speaker 2: whether it's in the draft, the number ten pick, or

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Speaker 2: like Ethan's talked about it, is there a veteran guy

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Speaker 2: will say keep this in mind, they wentn't got a

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Speaker 2: veteran guy and Dwayne Brown and Dwayne Brown's had a

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Speaker 1: All right, Fels, it's February eighth, The draft is in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Dues will certainly be there April twenty fifth through twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: and I think Caroline Hunterschett will be there representing us.

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Speaker 1: What I want to ask you right now, dudes, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get mad at this question. What

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Speaker 1: I wrote about this yesterday New York Tests dot Com

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Speaker 1: when I say one of seven, let's start with the

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Speaker 1: the Penn State tackle. Oh yeah. Then we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna go to three receivers, Marvin Harrison, roma

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that I see as a unicorn.

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Speaker 1: Brock Bowers, do you think ultimately when we get to

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Speaker 4: Be their selection on all the guys are just named.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you name like eleven guys, he ain't somebody gotta

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Speaker 1: I named seven.

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Speaker 3: Your name's eleven guys. He ain't somebody's gotta be there.

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Speaker 1: I name seven. You have no shame, my friend.

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Speaker 5: And also as a side note, do you think that

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's actually a good question because when you question no,

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Speaker 2: even two players could potentially still be there.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, you didn't name the quarterbacks, and we

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Speaker 1: Run quarter They're off the table for the Jets. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying one of those seven guys is going to be

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Speaker 3: Well, this is that's my point.

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Speaker 2: When you do the simple math, you got to think

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Speaker 3: And you have to weigh it this out.

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Speaker 2: And Joe d understands this right, when you look at

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Speaker 2: said player Romadonda is number five on your list, but

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Speaker 3: Like, that's something that Joe d has the way in.

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Speaker 2: And we saw this kind of play out right with

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Speaker 5: I think that it's an interesting debate. And when I

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Speaker 5: I think that receivers specifically recently have made such an

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Speaker 4: He can take the top off a defense.

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Speaker 5: Do you you can create a package for that guy

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Speaker 5: So I think that that's going to be a fascinating debate.

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Speaker 5: I wonder, like we've seen it before, Joe Douglas being

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Speaker 4: Example in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Like if a guy, let's say, hypothetically speaking, they like

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Speaker 3: This is this is my hypothetical. Me and Ethan talked

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Speaker 2: There's been a rumor that Joe D has an affinity

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you said, because I literally was about to go.

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Speaker 2: Into my soliloquy about how I think he can be

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Speaker 2: I think that's his bread and butter position. This is

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Speaker 3: I think he does take him.

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Speaker 2: But saying he's there, but you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: pick up some draft capital, right, because this is not

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Speaker 2: only a deep offensive tackle class. It's a deep receiver class.

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Speaker 2: Say the Jets trade back in the first round not

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Speaker 3: A guy I really like, Tyler Guidon.

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Speaker 2: I know we talked about him Ethan and the more

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Speaker 2: guys that develops actually really fast? Because at Mobile we

439
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Speaker 2: saw the aggression, right, we saw the physicality from him,

440
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Speaker 2: we saw the athletic ability. There's some technique things that

441
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Speaker 2: he needs to work on, and that's the concern, right,

442
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Speaker 2: But again, if the player matches up with the athlete,

443
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Speaker 2: I think he has the highest ceiling out of all

444
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Speaker 2: these offensive tackles. So taking him at like fifteen and

445
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Speaker 2: maybe picking up a second or fourth round pick, I

446
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Speaker 2: think could be massive for the just now again, it

447
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Speaker 2: just depends on on that draft board. Where do you

448
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Speaker 2: have for Wagga and Guidon ranked on that That's what

449
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Speaker 2: it comes down to. But I think that's a scenario

450
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Speaker 2: that nobody's talked about. But I think it makes a

451
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Speaker 2: lot of sense because, like you said, Ethan Rogers about

452
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Speaker 2: to turn forty, right with the young studs that we have,

453
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Speaker 2: Brees Hall and Garret Wilson do for contracts after this year,

454
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Speaker 2: like the window is now, So why not try to

455
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Speaker 2: pick up a second or fourth round pick. Because we

456
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Speaker 2: talked about how deep this receiver class is, Like there's

457
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Speaker 2: gonna be a good receiver that drops to the second

458
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Speaker 2: round and the Jets can pick up an early second.

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Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the reasons you love Geydon. He's made

461
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Speaker 1: the transition from defensive line.

462
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Speaker 3: He's a I mean, we're athletes. I mean, what can

463
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Speaker 3: I say?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a really interesting scenario. I'm torn on

465
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Speaker 1: receivers because dudes no offense to you, but you know,

466
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Speaker 1: what happens at home. Everybody gravitates to the football. So

467
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Speaker 1: when people are at home doing their draft boards and

468
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Speaker 1: reading the prognosticators talk about the draft, they're saying, oh,

469
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Speaker 1: a receiver, running back, tight end, because those guys do

470
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Speaker 1: damage with the ball in their hands. But have we

471
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Speaker 1: seen a shift in the NFL because you're watching guys.

472
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Speaker 1: Kansas City is now after trading Tyreek Hill is in

473
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: the super Bowl for a second consecutive season. Detroit made

474
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Speaker 1: a run this year and their number one receiver Saint Brown.

475
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Speaker 1: You mentioned I think somebody mentioned earlier Houston and c J.

476
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Speaker 1: Stroud obviously making the playoffs in the rookies first year,

477
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Speaker 1: who was his number one target? It was tanked out.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen a lot of receivers of late

479
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Speaker 1: come into the league and be extremely productive, and they've

480
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Speaker 1: been taken way outside of the first round.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look at it, you talked about

482
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Speaker 2: Tank Dale, but let's not forgot Nico Collins.

483
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Speaker 3: I think it was a fourth round pick.

484
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Speaker 2: So like that's why I said, I think that scenario

485
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Speaker 2: that I brought up makes a lot of sense because

486
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Speaker 2: I think we were talking about it. This is a

487
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Speaker 2: deep receiver class. Now again, there's guys that are special,

488
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Speaker 2: like Roma doons A is special, right, So that's what

489
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: you have to weigh in, Like, if he's there at ten,

490
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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to take him. And then also looking

491
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Speaker 2: at a guy like Malik Dabors, who's a run after

492
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: catch guy kind of reminds me a lot of DJ

493
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: Moore in Chicago, Like he's a special guy. And obviously

494
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Speaker 2: Martaret Harrison I don't think it will even be in

495
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Speaker 2: this conversation at ten as well. But then like there's

496
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Speaker 2: there's guys like Jalen Pope that you maybe could get in,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, in the second round, if you're able to

498
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Speaker 2: make that trade, right a d Mitchell right Worthy from Texas.

499
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Speaker 2: Like there's gonna be some good receivers like in the

500
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Speaker 2: second and third round. A guy that me and Ethan

501
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: really loved the Singer Bowl, Roman Wilson, right, a guy

502
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: that would fit really nice with Garret Wilson, and he

503
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: might be there in the third round. He might have

504
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: helped this up in Mobile and maybe stinks into the second,

505
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: but he is a true blow the top off the

506
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Speaker 2: defense type of guy, and that will open up the

507
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: biddle of the field for Garrett Wilson, like there's room

508
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: to take you know, guys in the second and third

509
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Speaker 2: round and have im media impacts because you talked about EA, right,

510
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Speaker 2: Tikdale fourth frond pick, I think Nico Collins fourth frond pick,

511
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Speaker 2: I mean the Sun God, amar Ron Saint Brown fourth

512
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Speaker 2: round pick. Like, there's room for these guys at the

513
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Speaker 2: receiver because there's so much more developed than it was

514
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Speaker 2: a few years ago. That's why I leaned towards the

515
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Speaker 2: offensive line. But that's why I think my scenario makes

516
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: even more sense, right, because you can pick up a

517
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Speaker 2: quality guy and maybe even still bring in another free

518
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: agent at receiver as well.

519
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Speaker 5: Right, I think when I think about offensive line and receiver,

520
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Speaker 5: and to your point, like there's so many receivers that

521
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Speaker 5: have done really well as Day three picks, even you

522
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Speaker 5: know day two picks.

523
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Speaker 4: But the Jets have a special wide receive.

524
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Speaker 5: The numbers maybe don't reflect that towards the top tier

525
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: talent in the NFL yet, And I think that's because

526
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Speaker 5: of the unsabled quarterback play in Garrett Wilson's first two years.

527
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Speaker 5: But I think if with Aaron Rodgers, I mean we

528
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 5: saw a glimpse of it in the preseason. I understand

529
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Speaker 5: the preseason is much different. The Giants weren't really playing

530
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Speaker 5: a lot of their guys. The Jets wanted to play

531
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Speaker 5: their starters. But you saw it in training camp. And

532
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Speaker 5: I think that Garrett Wilson would be in the conversation

533
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Speaker 5: as one of the league's top young talents if he

534
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Speaker 5: plays seventeen games with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: So furthermore, like you're.

536
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Speaker 5: Telling me that Roma Dunza, Malik Neighbors, and Marvin Harrison,

537
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Speaker 5: who I agree, will not be in the conversation at

538
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Speaker 5: ten because they'll be off the board. Like, I don't

539
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Speaker 5: know if the Jets necessarily need another special young receiver talent,

540
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Speaker 5: where if you really believe in what you have in

541
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Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, you can get someone like Roman Wilson and

542
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Speaker 5: a couple of these guys even who are at the

543
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Speaker 5: Senior Bowl, like Ricky piersall had a good week from

544
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Speaker 5: Florida and Lad McConkie, who's on not Jeff Ulbrioks team

545
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: but the American team. He had a good week. And

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Speaker 5: I think that there are a lot of options for

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Speaker 5: the Jets if they somehow are able to select on

548
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Speaker 5: Day two. If they're able to select on Day three

549
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Speaker 5: even free agency, if they signed someone who's just like

550
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Speaker 5: a veteran stable receiver who maybe won't break the bank,

551
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Speaker 5: I think the Jets receiving corps will be in a

552
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Speaker 5: very good spot.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Bauers, both of you guys,

554
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Speaker 1: because he obviously was the most productive receiver on that

555
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: Georgia offense. We've seen a lot of teams of late.

556
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Speaker 1: We're gonna watch Kittle here on Sunday and Kelsey in

557
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Where do you stand on a guy

558
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Speaker 1: like Bowers who potentially could be sitting there at ten?

559
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like his game a lot. The

560
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Speaker 2: question for me is in the error where you know

561
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Speaker 2: teams are going to eleven personnel, what three wide receivers,

562
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Speaker 2: and we see in Jacksonville with Evan Ingram, essentially that's

563
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: a four wide set with them. I think that's how

564
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Speaker 2: he's going to be used, right. He's not a traditional

565
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Speaker 2: like wise tied end that's going to put his hand

566
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Speaker 2: in there.

567
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Speaker 3: And now he does compete, right, compete.

568
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Speaker 2: He competes at blocking, but he's not a George Kittle

569
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Speaker 2: where he's gonna just you know, run you into the third.

570
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Speaker 2: My thing is when you talk about positional value, do

571
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Speaker 2: you take him that high in the draft? Now, if

572
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: you think he's gonna be special, right, a guy that's

573
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Speaker 2: going to be a consummate eight hundred plus yard you.

574
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Speaker 3: Know, tied in, maybe you do take him that high.

575
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Speaker 1: Right.

576
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of mock drafts have him going

577
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Speaker 3: in the top ten.

578
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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see where they put him on

579
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Speaker 2: you know, the positional value ranking chart in regards to

580
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: their top fifty for each team and people that need playmakers,

581
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: because we see now in today's game with the Kelsey's

582
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: and the Kittles and the David and Djoku's, like guys

583
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: that can really take the top off the defense, down

584
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Speaker 2: the scene and have that mismatch between linebackers and safeties.

585
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Speaker 3: There's a there's a high value for those.

586
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Speaker 2: Guys, right, Like David and Joku was a first round pick,

587
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: but you know they Kittle was a fifth round pick.

588
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: I think Kelsey was a third round pick. So it'll

589
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Speaker 2: be interesting to see how teams really value brock Bowers.

590
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Speaker 2: I honestly don't think he's gonna go top ten, to

591
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, I think he'll go the middle

592
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Speaker 2: of the first route.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair.

594
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm split because, like DuSable said, like that,

595
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: I keep coming back to the positional value, Like I

596
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: think of TJ. Hockinson as a or a top ten pick,

597
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 5: and Kyle Pitts obviously is dealing with quarterback play in Atlanta,

598
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Speaker 5: but like those are top ten picks, and at the

599
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: time people were like, Kyle pitch is a unicorn, and

600
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Speaker 5: he is a unicorn. He just hasn't played to that

601
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: level yet. I don't think. I think the potential is there.

602
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Speaker 5: And for the Jets, it's like you have good tight ends.

603
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. It's it'd probably be a

604
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: luxury pick for the Jets, right because, for sure, Tyler

605
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Speaker 1: Conklin's coming off his best career year in the Jets rightfully,

606
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: so are very high on Jeremy Rutgers as well.

607
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that the ceiling for someone like

608
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Speaker 5: Tyler Conklin with a guy like Aaron Rodgers in the fold,

609
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: Like I think that with Aaron Rodgers under center, I

610
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: think Conklin's numbers would have been more impressive. And you

611
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Speaker 5: just said he had a career year. So that's kind

612
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: of why I'm split. I understand that Brock Bowers might

613
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: be a unicorn. I just think if I were to,

614
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Speaker 5: like power rank the positional value for the Jets, I'd

615
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: probably go offensive tackle, wide receiver, and then Bowers.

616
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Speaker 2: Well, they a would say don't sleep on Kenny your

617
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: boa too, because this staff loves him and he played

618
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the year when he came back

619
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Speaker 2: from injury. I just don't think that's a need right

620
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Speaker 2: now for the Jets because they still have young coops too.

621
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Speaker 2: But they drafted late in the draft last year as well,

622
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Speaker 2: so I mean they're deep at the tight end position

623
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: as well. And like I would be, I think that's

624
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: more more than a luxury pick. Like I said to

625
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: me to eat this one. I think it's offensive tackle

626
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: or lineman, period receiver and then honestly de tackling, safety

627
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: or like the major needs for this Jets team, like

628
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: tight end would be like like you said, a luxury pick,

629
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Speaker 2: but people said that Will McDonald was a luxury pick,

630
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Speaker 2: But that may not be so much true when you

631
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Speaker 2: maybe lose bright up this offseason.

632
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Speaker 3: So we'll see how that plays out.

633
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: Can I throw a wrench in here?

634
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Speaker 1: Is it going to be an Allen wrench?

635
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: It could be an as, but I'm curious both of

636
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: your perspectives on this. ABT after like on Baggie Day

637
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 5: said that he's going to watch the film and decide

638
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 5: if he feels comfortable playing tackle or guard. If hypothetically speaking,

639
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: he comes back after reviewing the film and he goes

640
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Speaker 5: to Joe d and he goes to Robert Solin. He

641
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: says like, hey, guys, you know what, Like, I think

642
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: it makes most sense for me financially and based on

643
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: my play to play tackle. Does that change the way

644
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: you like your outlook on the entire draft process, free

645
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: agency and how that crystallizes, Because if you knew that

646
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: AVT wanted to play tackle, whether that's left or right,

647
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: I think that it would obviously fill up a hole.

648
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: But there's still the question with the injuries the past

649
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: two years, so that I just think that's an interesting

650
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: thing not a lot of people talk about.

651
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Speaker 2: I don't think it changes just because they most likely

652
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: are going to have two new starting tackles this year

653
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Speaker 2: either way. So like and we talked about Fuaga in

654
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: his position flexibility, A lot of people think he's going

655
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: to be a really good guard too, So I think

656
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: Joe would still have affinity to take him at ten.

657
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: Even if Abt said he's gonna play right tackle, they

658
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: will just move for Waga to guard. But but then again,

659
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: you still probably looking and find somebody to play left tackle.

660
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: I love what I saw from Carter Warren down the backstretch.

661
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: I think he could be a real, you know, nice

662
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: piece on the offensive line.

663
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: Could he be the potential answering left tackle.

664
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: Only time will tell, but I think at worst he

665
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: could be the third the swing tackle for sure, because

666
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: I love what I saw from him. But I think

667
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: they stopped their address getting another office line, whether it's

668
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: a top tier one or a stable one I free agency,

669
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: or one at the number ten pick. Overall, even if

670
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Abt decides he wants to play.

671
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: Tackle, here's my thing. When I look at these teams,

672
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: I say, the Jets aren't that far away. It feels

673
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: like they are, and they have to get to the playoffs.

674
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: We understand that, But dudes, you're talking about two teams

675
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: that have good defenses. I would argue, which is interesting

676
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: as far as the growth or the evolution of a

677
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: team an organization. Kansas City's got a better defense than

678
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco. For my money, That's the way I view

679
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: it right now. But the Jets their defense. With either

680
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: one of these clubs, you could say the Jets are better,

681
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: They're at least on par with Kansas City, but I

682
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: would say I would say they're better now. Offensively, they

683
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: have two young stars in Brest Hall and Garrett Wilson.

684
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: They're getting a forty year old soon to be forty

685
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: one year old quarterback back in the lineup that's Aaron Rodgers.

686
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: We know they have to address the offensive line thirteen

687
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: different combinations last season, and we know they have to

688
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: continue to tinker with the skill positions, specifically you're talking

689
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: about receiver. But with that being said, if it was

690
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: any other club heading into the offseason, I think there

691
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: would be a lot more positivity about this organization. But

692
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: since it is the Jets, since they don't have the

693
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: track record, since they have not been to the postseason

694
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: since twenty ten, they hate and the dark cloud is

695
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: on top of them right now.

696
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the dark cloud and the connotation

697
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: of what happened to Rogers after four plays kind of

698
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: ways in on. You know why people, even fans feel

699
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: their way they do right now currently in the offseason,

700
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: because there was so much excitement, EA, so much excitement,

701
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: you knew you had a championship type defense. Everybody thought

702
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: that Jets were just one quarterback away. And sometimes in

703
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: life you get humbled quickly. And it's not even just

704
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers injury, right because we kind of learned

705
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: that the offensive wos on the offensive line more specifically,

706
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: we're a lot worse than what a lot of people

707
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: thought going into the season. I remember, you know, eas

708
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: being out there in Carolina and I was like, you know,

709
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: this offensive line to get it together. Know, Brian Burns

710
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: is one of the top, you know, edge guys in

711
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: the league, and you know when he's coming off the

712
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: edge and you know their defensive tackle having a brain

713
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: fart right now. He's a Pro Bowl guy too, So

714
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: I could see why they would struggle. And then you

715
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: know they were tinkering with the offensive line. We kept

716
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: talking about. I think Aaron Rodgers came out and said,

717
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: you know, I'm having patients right now, but I'm eventually

718
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: need to know who my starting five was. And I

719
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: think you know, when you have a guy like Garan Rodgers,

720
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: a lot of things can get covered up, right, And

721
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: I think that's something that the Jets literally have to

722
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: figure out. And like I said, Joe Dean has thrown

723
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: He's thrown darts at the dark board. Right, there were

724
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: cards that trying to fix the offensive line. They've just

725
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: had really bad luck with injuries. So like when you

726
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: have injuries and you talked about it in thirteen different combinations, Yeah,

727
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: it's hard to build that continuity when you have that

728
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: many different offensive lineman start on off of the line

729
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: like everybody's on a rope, right, and then one one

730
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: piece gets like taking off.

731
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: It's almost like being like getting the cut in the rope.

732
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: Right, It's not going to be as strong when you, you know,

733
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: keep cutting into the rope every other week when somebody

734
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: knew who's going into the lineup. So I think first

735
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: and foremost durability is a big thing for the Jets.

736
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's not a crystal ball.

737
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: You don't know who's gonna stay healthy, who's not gonna

738
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: stay healthy. Ea, that's a dice you roll when you

739
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: draft somebody or you pick somebody in free agency. So

740
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: I just think with the excitement that there was around

741
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: the Jets when you talk about hard knocks and everything,

742
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: else the Jets had going on this offseason. I just

743
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: think people are more cautious and people are always gonna

744
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: be pessimistic.

745
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: That's just the way of the world. Right.

746
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: When something doesn't go right the first time, they're gonna

747
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: be pessimistic about it going forward. So if I'm the Jets,

748
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: I love being in that position. I love that everybody

749
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: is counting us out. Like I think that's great because

750
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: I think there were so many people crowning the Jets

751
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: last year, like you SAIDA and they hadn't had that

752
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: success in so many years, going back all the way

753
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: I think to what twenty ten was the last time

754
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: they made the playoffs.

755
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: We made the playoffs.

756
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: I just think now that you have that mentality with

757
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: the article coming out, everybody's against you, Like I think

758
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: literally they you know, there was a there's always like

759
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: a mantra going into the off season. Uh, it literally

760
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: should be like nobody cares, work harder. That's to be

761
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: the shirt this year because truly nobody cares. Like everybody's

762
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: piling it onto the Jets this year, right, And that's

763
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: what you should fuel yourself in the offseason heading into

764
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: this twenty twenty four season.

765
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Right, it should be inside the locker room. We have

766
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: not accomplished anything yet because we collect a little collectively

767
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: have not. And I also think that the task is

768
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: gonna be harder next year. As we close here, you're

769
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna see the close of the twenty twenty three to

770
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty four season here in Las Vegas with the Chiefs

771
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers. And by the way, we'll

772
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: get picks in here in a second. But dudes, I

773
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: just think the FC is loaded. Talking about Yeah, the

774
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have won the division four consecutive years. Yeah,

775
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: I have one of the top players some football at

776
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. They aren't going anywhere. They're gonna have

777
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: a lot of roster changes, but they aren't going anywhere.

778
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are going to maintain an explosive offense, changes defensively,

779
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: but they still have made the playoffs in two consecutive

780
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: years under Mike McDaniel. Let's go to the AFC North.

781
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Three teams made the playoffs. The one team that did

782
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs is a club by the name

783
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Bengals. And who are they getting back?

784
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Joe Borrow. We saw CJ. Stroud and the Houston Texans

785
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: take an unbelievable step in year one. Well to see

786
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: what the Colts do. They won nine games last.

787
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Coast.

788
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: Next year, Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville disappointing end of the season,

789
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: they'll be looking to take a step forward. Kansas City

790
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: is a dynasty. They are modern day dynasty right now.

791
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: Denver should feel encouraged about the steps they took late

792
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: in the year. And then I'll tell you what. Jim Harbaugh,

793
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: if you like him or you don't, he is one

794
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: of the best coaches of football in the world, and

795
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you're pairing them up with Justin Herbert, the challenge for

796
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: the Jets next year will be tougher than ever.

797
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't even mention the Baltimore Ravens and

798
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, So like y, it's not gonna get any easier,

799
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: like you said, he and that's like I said, that's

800
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: what should feel them. I think Aaron Rodgers is always

801
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: a big proponent of saying, like, you know, give me

802
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: your doubts, right, give me your doubts. And I think

803
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: that again could be part of the mantra, right, like

804
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: nobody cares work harder, because like this is where everybody

805
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: wanted the Jets, right Like I said, I told you

806
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: people are pessimistic, right and I even you know, said

807
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: this on the podcast the other day. And this is

808
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: not even throwing shade at the Giants. I just feel

809
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: like in the state of New York, the Jets are

810
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: treated like the Fab five and the Giants are treated

811
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: like Duke the basketball team. And just because you know,

812
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: and we know what went on this offseason with the

813
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: Giants and some of their coaching staff and some of

814
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: the changes, like if that was a Jet story, that

815
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: they'd still be talking about that right now, even at

816
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: the super Bowl.

817
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: But you know, that is what it is. And that's

818
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: why I.

819
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Think this team should really they should use that as fuel,

820
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: right because again, this is where people, even though they

821
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: said they were rooting for the Jets, this is where

822
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: they wanted the Jets right now, and this quote unquote

823
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: this function as people would like to say, like, this

824
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: is where it's players and on this coaching staff, like

825
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: this is where.

826
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: I want to be.

827
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: Like when nobody believes in us, right right, everybody thinks,

828
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: you know, we're the joke of the town. Right we

829
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: believe that Aaron Rodgers he ends up going down. There's

830
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: this function like give me all your doubts right now,

831
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: that's what I want. We're gonna prove everybody wrong. We're

832
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: not gonna say anything. We're just gonna shut up and work,

833
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: and we're gonna let our you know, our talking on

834
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: the field do the talking for us.

835
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: I think that the one thing that I think this

836
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: year in the AFC proved than anything else is that

837
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 5: it's so unpredictable. I mean, we were talking about injuries,

838
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 5: and I feel like we had the same conversation entering

839
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: the year, like the AFC is a juggernaut, but looking

840
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 5: at the standings, like the only team in the AFC

841
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 5: with more than twelve wins were the Ravens at thirteen

842
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: and four, the Bills eleven and six, the Dolphins eleven

843
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: and six. Like, I feel like the Jets would have

844
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: been in the mix there, and they will be in

845
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: the mix with fully healthy.

846
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: It's so close.

847
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: It is because the team was the seventh seed in

848
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: the AFC is Pittsburgh and they won ten games.

849
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is very close.

850
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's what's interesting because I

851
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 5: would have thought that in the beginning of the year

852
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 5: you were gonna have teams at like a couple of

853
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: them at the thirteen or so win range. I think

854
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: that you're more looking at somewhere between nine and eleven.

855
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: I think that it shows that the way that the

856
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: Jets are built with their defense. And we were just

857
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: talking about it, how like I'm watching the playoffs, thinking

858
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 5: this Jets defense could compete with any of these teams.

859
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: We saw it when Kansas City.

860
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: I know as much different team in Kansas City that

861
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 5: the Jets in Week four compared to the one.

862
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Now.

863
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that jeffs can hang with anybody because

864
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: of their defense. And sure there are a couple of positions,

865
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: like Lejay said, defensive tackle you'll need to replenish, but

866
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 5: most of the players, especially the key ones, they're coming back.

867
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: Let's out here Dude's Super Bowl pick.

868
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: Mmm, So I wouldn't have been going back and forth,

869
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: but you said you follow me on Instagram, Ethan, I

870
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: know you do to. I've been on you know this

871
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: pick since August, right what I predicted it would be

872
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. One of the few people that

873
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: guessed it correctly. I said it would be Kansas City

874
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers and then my post nice. Yeah,

875
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: when I did my post in August, I said it

876
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: was gonna be bang Bang nine a gang, and I'm

877
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: sticking with it. I just think, I just think when

878
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: you look at you know, Christian McCaffrey, and I think

879
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: this is a game that is going to be he's

880
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: gonna be heavily involved in.

881
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: Right. I think he'll get over thirty touches this.

882
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: Game, just because, right, we've seen Kyle Shanahan be in

883
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: NFL history for the wrong reasons, right giving up the

884
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: twenty eight to three league. Now again, was the coordinator

885
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: in Landon leg preferenced that by saying that he wasn't

886
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: the head coach. But then we also saw, you know,

887
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: three years ago when he played the Chiefs in the

888
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl ten point fourth quarter lead. They lost that

889
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: and lost that game as well. So those were two

890
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: of the biggest, you know, come from behind wins in

891
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: NFL history. He was a part of both of those staffs.

892
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: I just think this is a game where he really

893
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: leans on him. And if you've seen this Chiefs defense,

894
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: we talked about how good it good it really is.

895
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: They've been susceptible to giving up the run during the

896
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: regular season, gave up over five yards of carry.

897
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 3: I think in the playoffs is around four and a half.

898
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Adversely, though the forty nine ers really struggled against the

899
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: run in the playoffs. They're giving up like five and

900
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: a half yards of carry in the playoffs, which is

901
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: up from like four point six during the regular season.

902
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: So I think this is a game where both running

903
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: backs can have a game. It'll be interesting to see

904
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: if Steve Wooks will he play more match man in

905
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: the back end because they're more of a zone covered team.

906
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: But they played more man coverage in MATCHMN in zone

907
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: versus the Detroit Lions, and they had some success, but

908
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: they also had some luck with Josh Renos dropping a

909
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: few passes, so it'll be interesting to see. To me,

910
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I think Detroit has better skill position players outside of

911
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: tight end obviously than the Kansas City Chiefs. So if

912
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Books, Travis Kelcey's not beating me. Isaiah Protecco's

913
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: not beating me. If we're sheee Rice goes from one

914
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: to sixty and beats me, you have to live with that, right,

915
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not letting Travis Kelcey get free access like

916
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens did the first half, which I was

917
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: surprised because Mike McDonald was such a really good defensive coordinator.

918
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Now made a great adjustment in the second half shut

919
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: him out. But it'll be interesting if this game is tight.

920
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: With the greatness of Patrick Mahomes showed through, I think

921
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: Kyle Shadahan just gets over the hump this year and

922
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: it gets his first ring.

923
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: I want to believe everything due said, and like in

924
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 5: my gut, I do because like I do think that

925
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: San Francisco is matched up well, and like if you're

926
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 5: a fan of storylines, the revenge factor of the Super

927
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: Bowl from a couple of years ago, like I think

928
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 5: that Rock Perty's playing at a different level than Jimmy

929
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 5: g was in twenty nineteen. But I think I'm gonna

930
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: pick up where dues ended off. If this game is tight,

931
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: I think it's hard to bet against Patrick Mahomes.

932
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: And Andy Reid.

933
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: And I think that, like this whole season with the Chiefs,

934
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: it's been like, this is not the same Chiefs team.

935
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: This is Patrick Mahomes' first road game in the playoffs. Well,

936
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: he goes into Buffalo, he says good night, he goes

937
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: into Baltimore. He says good night, and now it's like, okay, well,

938
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: now let's see what what happens. And I think for

939
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 5: those reasons like I go with the Chiefs, but I

940
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 5: don't necessarily believe it.

941
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: I just feel like every.

942
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 5: Time Patrick Mahomes has been doubted this year, specifically, the

943
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: Chiefs have ended up victorious. But I would like to

944
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 5: see Todus's point. I would like to see the forty

945
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: nine Ers win the game. And I also think that

946
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers have the personnel on defensive match

947
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: up with Travis Kelcey in a matchup with Isaiah Pacheco.

948
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 5: But I also thought the Baltimore Ravens did too. So

949
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: I'm torn, But I lean Kansas City.

950
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: News is making me doubt myself because.

951
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: I'm in the same boat.

952
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm leaning Kansas City here because the Chiefs were a

953
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: slight underdog at Buffalo, they found a way to get

954
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: it done. They were a slight underdog at Baltimore, they

955
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: found a way to get it done. They opened up

956
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: a slight under dog here to San Francisco. My problem

957
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: with the forty nine Ers is defensively, I think people

958
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: are thinking about them, not you dudes. Because you're in

959
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: the film every day, they're going back to four years

960
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: ago and saying this is the same defense, not even close.

961
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: So I have a problem with what I've seen from

962
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: them defensively here in the playoffs against both Green Bay

963
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: and Detroit, and Kansas City is a juggernaut. But I

964
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: think what ultimately is gonna happen is this, this is

965
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter game, and then I lean quarterback Mahomes

966
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: over party, you know. So I don't know, but for

967
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: Jets fans, let's just get through the game and then

968
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: on to twenty twenty four. Dudes, thanks so much. Don't

969
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: party too hard out there in Las Vegas. We'll be

970
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: watching CBS and and watching you on Instagram with all

971
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: your blagio pops.

972
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I came party too hard, man.

973
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: I got a lot of work to do, all right,

974
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Thanks guys,