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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a missing little girl celested

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Speaker 1: just thirteen years old, which he goes missing, found decomposing,

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Speaker 1: partially dismembered, and a star's tesla trunk who is now

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Speaker 1: whining because his tour is canceled. I means he Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with.

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Speaker 2: Us celest Hernandez, an eleven year old girl, full of

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Speaker 2: life but also young and naive. When given the chance

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Speaker 2: to chat with an older boy online, she engaged unknowingly

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Speaker 2: opening the door to a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: The music star I'm talking about has gone multi platinum.

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Speaker 1: But before I talk about all of his musical success

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Speaker 1: and how much money he's making and how famous he is,

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Speaker 1: can I show you what he just reposted? Okay of

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Speaker 1: a guy chopping up lunching me and he says me,

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Speaker 1: if I see her talk with other dudes, you know,

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Speaker 1: not a good look when you're then thirteen year old

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Speaker 1: girlfriend is found dismembered and decomposing in your tesla. And

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Speaker 1: as I recall to Israel Salas Rodriguez joining a senior

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Speaker 1: news reporter, US son not just dismembered and decomposing. I

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Speaker 1: mean you, by the way, that video is from at

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Speaker 1: Brian on TikTok. You could smell the trunk as you

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Speaker 1: approached the tesla. And isn't this true? Israel Salas Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: that the tesla was noticed by the neighborhood because it

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Speaker 1: was so dusty and it had been sitting there for

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Speaker 1: so long. My point is, how could somebody put a

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Speaker 1: leave the car there for weeks on end? How long

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Speaker 1: was that car sitting there, Israel.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Nancy. So the car was reportedly sitting there

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Speaker 3: for weeks and an the fluent neighborhood in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: the Hollywood Hills neighbors complained about a foul order coming

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Speaker 3: from the tesla. However, it wasn't until early September when

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Speaker 3: authorities finally impounded that vehicle from the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: To most of Castillo joining us out of Orange County.

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Speaker 1: Private investigator for the Geordoulian Law Group, former supervisor detective

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Speaker 1: from LAPD and you can find him at Moses Castillo

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Speaker 1: Investigations dot com. Moses, you just heard Israel south Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: refer to Hollywood Hills as like you know a cushi

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Speaker 1: posh neighborhood. He's right, it is. Tell me about Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Hills and why anybody would notice a dusty tesla with

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Speaker 1: dents in it sitting there for a really long time.

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Speaker 1: Not these people, their cars are all like parked in

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Speaker 1: their five car garages. Nobody's leaving a junk car out

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Speaker 1: on the street in Hollywood Hills. Yeah, this is an

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Speaker 4: Who celebrities are there, you know, all the time, and

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Speaker 4: they cared for the cars and when they see something

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Speaker 1: Of out of whack, especially the order.

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Speaker 4: I'm so surprised that the initial response didn't cause somebody

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Speaker 4: to open the trunk because they would have discovered the

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Speaker 4: body right there and there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're showing you the toe lot where it

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Speaker 1: ended up. That's the last thing you want is your

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Speaker 1: car ending up in a toe lot, you know. Joe

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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan joining me, Professor forensics, Jacksonville State University, author

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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet, and he's a star of

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Speaker 1: a hit podcast series, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.

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Speaker 1: Joe Scott three weeks at least three weeks and the

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Speaker 1: same soccer moms and executive dads, you know, jog buy

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Speaker 1: and they're matching out this and go, wow, that Tessa's

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Speaker 1: been there a long time. What's that smell? Really? Three weeks?

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Speaker 1: What was going on in that trunk? Joe Scott, Well, what.

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Speaker 5: Was going on in the truck is advanced decomposition. And

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Speaker 5: let me throw this at you, Nancy. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that the body was always in the trunk. The body

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Speaker 5: may have been decomposing somewhere else placed in the trunk, which, hey,

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Speaker 5: I've gotten a little education now on these tesla's. They

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Speaker 5: may have gotten so foul that they were placed into

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Speaker 5: I don't know that we can actually say that her

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Speaker 1: on that. Joe Scott, Israel Salas Rodriguez Israel, was the

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Speaker 3: That's unclear right now, Dan However, there was of reports

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Speaker 1: And if some reports were staying the car was moved

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Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. But before I let you get up

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Speaker 1: any reason, any scintilla spec of evidence to suggest Celeste's

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Speaker 5: Well? I do know this, and yeah, it's my theory

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Speaker 5: and I'll stand by it. I know that if normal

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't you agree straight out? To a veteran trial lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Joanna Nevis, She is a premier criminal defense attorney and

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Speaker 1: founder of the Nevis Law Firm. Joanna, I know you

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear this in your capacity as a

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Speaker 1: defense lawyer, but somebody was moving that car from place

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Speaker 1: to place, which goes to intent.

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Speaker 1: If there's a car, a beat up car, sitting right

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Speaker 1: two weeks, they're going to call about it, But if

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Speaker 1: it moves around, it's less likely to get called in.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about intent to hide the little girl's dead body, Joanna.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, I don't disagree with you from the perspective

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Speaker 6: of whoever was driving that vehicle and moving in around

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Speaker 6: may have had an intent. But was my client the

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Speaker 6: have an alibi for where they may have been all

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Speaker 6: of them each time that that car was moving with

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Speaker 6: that foul smelling body in it, So just because it

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Speaker 6: I may be defending at the time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good point. I'm glad you told me that.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to try to find a way to

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Speaker 1: shoot down that theory. Guys, let's start at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 7: Listen, Residents in Hollywood Hills grow tired of a dusty

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty three Tesla model why where the Texas play

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Speaker 7: parked on the street for a month and report the vehicle.

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Speaker 7: Days later, employees of Hollywood Toe notice a foul odor

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Speaker 7: the tesla. The tesla is registered in Hempstead, Texas. Okay,

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Speaker 7: that's another red flag here.

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Speaker 1: We are in Hollywood Hills with all the rich people

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Speaker 1: and they notice a dusty, dirty tesla with a fronk.

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Speaker 1: As Jesscott Morgan pointed out, the trunk is in the front,

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Speaker 1: a little bit dinged up, and it goes from place

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Speaker 1: then it gets towd. Nobody comes to claim it. Gee,

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Speaker 1: I wonder why. I think I know why. Listen.

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Speaker 7: Human remains wrapped in plastic, placed in a bag and

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Speaker 7: hidden in the front trunk of the tesla are severely

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Speaker 7: decomposed and partially dismembered. Please say the person was a

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Speaker 7: female five foot two weighing seventy one pounds with wavy

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Speaker 7: black hair, and was wearing a tube top in black leggings.

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Speaker 7: The person appears deceased inside the vehicle for an extended

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Speaker 7: period of time before being found.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to renowned psychoanalyst doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us

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Speaker 1: from this jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breakers.

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Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock and you can

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Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. Dr Bethany, can

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Speaker 1: I talk to you about this little girl? Okay? She

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Speaker 1: she's brought back, everything's fine. Then she disappears again and

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Speaker 1: she's not a reported missing. Let that just sink in.

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Speaker 1: I want you to marinate that just a moment, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall. What I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: is the mind of a killer that would take a

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Speaker 1: her in a plastic bag like she's trash, and put

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Speaker 1: her in the hot trunk of a car. You know

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Speaker 1: how hot it gets in California at this time of year. Now,

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Speaker 1: back time, she's been in that trunk for weeks, and

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Speaker 1: the person knows it, and they move the car from

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Speaker 1: spot to spot so it's not detected. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm calling all ring cams right now. Who moved that tesla?

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Speaker 1: But the mind it would take to murder a little

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Speaker 1: Kitty sandals, okay, and put her in a trunk and

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Speaker 8: Help me out, Bethany, Nancy, I have two words coercive control.

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Speaker 8: Whoever did this had had control over a miner sufficiently

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Speaker 8: so that her family was unable to find her. What

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Speaker 8: thirteen year old does not want to be home with

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Speaker 8: their parents unless they're being groomed and brainwashed by somebody

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Speaker 1: The evidence, intent to kill.

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Speaker 8: In terms of the mind of this killer, this killer

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Speaker 8: find extremely interesting, meaning that they thought about killing the victim,

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Speaker 8: And let me tell you, Nancy, you do not leave

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Speaker 8: a car out on the street in the Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 8: In Beverly Hills, junk cars are not sitting around. Dirty

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Speaker 8: cars are not sitting around. Dirty cars are not driven.

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Speaker 1: Through the streets.

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Speaker 8: So the fact that this perp left the car there

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Speaker 8: doesn't have a conscience, feels that this girl belonged to him,

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Speaker 8: that he was going to get away with this. And

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Speaker 8: I'm going to guess sex aggression and homicide are linked together,

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Speaker 8: that whoever did this had a sexual relationship with this

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Speaker 8: as they age out, he needs to get rid of them.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you connect murder and dismemberment

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Speaker 1: am trying to find out who did this, prove it

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Speaker 1: and get a conviction. That's what I want to see.

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Speaker 1: There's somebody who say many cans of worms here. Why

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Speaker 1: wasn't she reported missing? The second time. Just what, I'm sorry?

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Speaker 8: What somebody who takes control of a thirteen year old,

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Speaker 8: removes her from her family is going to have a

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Speaker 8: fixed sexual interest in children and girls, and particularly children

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Speaker 1: You know what, She's got a good point too, Joanna Nevis,

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Speaker 1: who is a veteran criminal defense attorney founded the Nevis

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Speaker 1: Law Firm. Joanna, she's got a point. Now. You dodged.

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Speaker 1: You know what, did you play dodgeball in college, Joanna?

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Speaker 1: Johanna Nevis, it's amazing. Okay, forget the dodgeball question. You

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Speaker 1: she was so decomposed she had to be forensically identified?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what else is odd?

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Speaker 5: A child this age has tattoos, all right, So just

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Speaker 1: We have something that Scott. We were just showing her

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Speaker 7: The thirteen year old became friends with singer David on

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Speaker 1: So she disappears at age thirteen. Family reports her missing,

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Speaker 1: these two met on social media. Crime stories with Nancy

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Speaker 3: So let's Reeves was thirteen years old when she reportedly

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Speaker 1: You know what you really are something Israel. She's described

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Speaker 1: But all I'm getting is she was a runaway teen.

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Speaker 1: Let me see that lunch meet video again. Who posts

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Speaker 1: Well, they're just incorrigible.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I'm sick about it. The way

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Speaker 1: put it together that this car, this Tesla from Texas

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Speaker 7: The twenty year old became a YouTube star, playing his

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Speaker 7: He downloaded a free music app for his phone, and

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Speaker 7: His music gains more attention than his gaming montages. Self

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Speaker 1: Has anybody actually looked at the lyrics a romantic homicide?

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Speaker 1: Let's put it up on the screen so we can

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Speaker 1: And I'm sick of waiting patiently for someone that won't

436
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Speaker 1: even arrive. Okay, don to methany, what does the term

437
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Speaker 1: Freudian slip mean?

438
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Speaker 8: This was not a crime of passion, but the idea

439
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 8: that he says in the lyrics you didn't arrive. There

440
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 8: is an implied accusation that she hasn't shown up for him.

441
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 8: The thirteen year old little girl who ran away from

442
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 8: home was lost for a year shows up in all

443
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 8: these social media posts. Her whole appearance changes. She's wearing

444
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 8: kind of a scarf on her head.

445
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: That mimics his.

446
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 8: She's starting to get.

447
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: The Cassie Ventura look.

448
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 8: One of the images you showed she has, yes, that

449
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 8: one beautiful long lashes, a diamond ring. The fact that

450
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 8: she has, you know, the shhh tattooed. No adult should

451
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 8: tell a thirteen year old to keep a secret. That's

452
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 8: just inappropriate. So these lyrics. It tells me that I'm

453
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 8: going to put this along the side the fact that

454
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 8: she disappeared for a year from her family, which tells

455
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 8: me that he had increasing control over her.

456
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Speaker 1: This little girl disappear for the first time when she

457
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: is just thirteen years old, after she goes to meet

458
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: musician who has gone multi platinum and they start talking online.

459
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: She goes to a concert, somehow hooks up with him

460
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: and they start talking online. That's the working theory. He's

461
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: not charged with anything, and I'm very curious about that decision.

462
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Let's hear it all from the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 13: Hello, my name is David pronounced David, not d four VD.

464
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 13: I'm from Queens, New York. I'm in Houston now. I

465
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 13: am a gamer. I love video games. I want to

466
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 13: be a professional gamer before music, That's actually what pushed

467
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 13: me into music was getting copyright strikes on YouTube and

468
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 13: I kind of just use my own music at my

469
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Speaker 13: mom's houzes after my mom told me to. I was

470
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 13: crying to her about it.

471
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: That from Genius YouTube channel.

472
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Another year past, and the teen was still missing. Neighbors

473
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 2: reported a foul odor coming from an abandoned vehicle. Police

474
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: arrive on scene, only to be met with a horrific

475
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: discovery that would shock the Los Angeles community.

476
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: A lot of you may not be familiar with his music.

477
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: It's not wrap, it's more like R and B. I've

478
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of it, specifically Romantic Homicide. He's

479
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: also ventured into clothing. I'd like you to see some

480
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: of the shirts that he David has offered online for sale.

481
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, wait, are those blood spattered shirts?

482
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: It looks like is it in a car? I don't

483
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: know where it is, but that's him with blood spattered shirts.

484
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: To Joanna Nevis, veteran criminal defense attorney, Joanna, you are

485
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: fully versed in guilty conscience. Sometimes the cleanup is worse

486
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: than the crime, the cover up, so to speak. Why

487
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: would he suddenly remove shots of him with bloody T shirts?

488
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: It looks like it said, even in a car. Why

489
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: why would he do that suddenly, you, Nancy.

490
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: So many people, especially celebrities, are represented by what we

491
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: say like public relations representatives who will advise them to

492
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 6: do certain things so that they kind of attack things

493
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: before the damage happened. And you know, this is somebody

494
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: who was in the spotlight. He's already being attacked about

495
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 6: his lyrics. He's already being painted as the person who

496
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 6: is you know, likely responsible for this because he had

497
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 6: a relationship with this person, and he is likely being

498
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: told that he should take these images down. Although these

499
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: images are a part of his overall brand, we're talking

500
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 6: about creative expression. This person has a movie gothic brand,

501
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 6: but his lyrics are artistic expression. It's not necessarily a concession.

502
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: And him, I can't wait. I can't wait for you

503
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: to try that on the jury. This was his artistic expression.

504
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: And you know another thing I've noticed to Moses Castillo

505
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: joining us private investigator with the Ordulian Law Group, Moses,

506
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: have you noticed in nearly every photo of the star

507
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: known as David with little girl Celeste, he has recovering

508
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: her face. Have you noticed that? Yes, that's what you know.

509
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: As an investigator, I would definitely want to talk to

510
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: you about all these lyrics and all these things that

511
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: came before her body was discovered.

512
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: I would argue he's having her cover her face because

513
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: she's under age. What more do we know about this guy?

514
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 7: Erck has released several singles, including Here with Me. They

515
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 7: charted on the Billboard Hot One hundred. He has recorded

516
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 7: two EPs and last April released his first full album, Withered,

517
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 7: with the Withered world tours starting last month and canceled

518
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 7: the day the body in his Tesla was identified as

519
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 7: celast Is Deluxe album is shelved. His record label Interscope

520
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 7: suspended the album release and pause all promotional activities related

521
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 7: to David. His endorsement deals are canceled. Crime Stories with

522
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 7: Nancy Grace, what do I have this correct?

523
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: To Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter that after Celeste

524
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Butcher remains are found in his tesla trunk, he continues

525
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: touring for several weeks until the outcry online it becomes

526
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: too noisy to ignore.

527
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 9: Unbelievable, Nancy, that bloody remains are found in a vehicle

528
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 9: registered to you, Yet you continue on this world tour

529
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 9: like nothing was found in your car, and only stop

530
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 9: when the remains are identified as.

531
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 12: A missing child from Lake Elsinor He went on about

532
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 12: his daily business after a bloody, chopped up, decomposed course

533
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 12: was found in his abandoned guard. Nancy, think about all

534
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 12: of this and it goes beyond the pale of what

535
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 12: any human being.

536
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 9: Ever would do to another human being you.

537
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Know, Dave Matt Apparently you and I are the only

538
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: ones concerned because as of this moment when we go

539
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: to air tonight, there have been no charges at all. Okay,

540
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: he's in a relationship with her, she's a runaway times two.

541
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: She's been gone over a year with him. I bet

542
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: if we timed those photos would find out how long

543
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: she's been with him, and now she's dead. It can

544
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: only be talked by one thing to Israel South Rodriguez

545
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: joining us us son. Isn't it true that there are

546
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: pregnant see allegations is real? That's right, Nancy.

547
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: There are rumors and unconfirmed reports online that claims so

548
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: Less was apparently pregnant at the time of her death.

549
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: David Rowe, in the common section of one of his

550
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: discord live streams, quote me and at the leader user

551
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: got a kid on the way again. These reports are

552
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: unconfirmed by Los Angeles investigators who have kept the details

553
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: of the case close to the chest.

554
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Just Scott Morgan, help me out. You're the death investigator.

555
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: You're the one that has handled literally thousands of death

556
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: investigations with her body thirteen when she goes missing, thirteen

557
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: and we're talking about her partially dismembered body in a

558
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: bag in his tesla. Okay, how do we figure out

559
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: if she was pregnant?

560
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, Well that's the key, isn't it? And if

561
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: they can if and again, Nancy, this is a big if,

562
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 5: because I keep hearing these snatches of information about how

563
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: badly she was decomposed. If they can get into a

564
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: reproductive system and appreciate the interior of her uterus, there's

565
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: going to be clues there relative to either a current

566
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: pregnancy or if she had given birth at some point

567
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 5: in time. Remember, she's been in hiding for some time.

568
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 5: I think my question would be, was there anything in

569
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: the house that gave us an indication that there may

570
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 5: have been some evidence relative to this? How long had

571
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: she survived? Is there any evidence that there might be

572
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: a child somewhere out there? And all of this is

573
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: going to be compromised.

574
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: What can you tell me about infant remains?

575
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a report that is out there, and again

576
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: we haven't been able to validate this yet, but there

577
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: is actually a report that there will remains found in

578
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: the Hollywood Hills area and that they were an infant.

579
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: So if that is true, Nancy, If that is true,

580
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 5: and if the La County corner has those remains, which

581
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: is where they would have wound up, guess what we've

582
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: got here. We have got a source for DNA information.

583
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: You know another thing, Jo Scott Morgan. Two ideas. One

584
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: DNA comparison between the infants remains that were reportedly found

585
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: in the area and whoever got rid of her body.

586
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Ain't that smart? Because no, it's connected geographically to David's place.

587
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: He lives in Hollywood Hills. Isn't that right? Israel? He

588
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: lives in Hollywood, Hollywood Hills, and this car is found

589
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: in Hollywood Hills.

590
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Nancy, there's a course that David actually rented a

591
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: home in the Hollywood Hills area at one point.

592
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: Maybe whoever discarded her body did think to like part

593
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the car a few streets over. That said, Joe Scott,

594
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when you don't know a horse,

595
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: look at his track record. If the body was hidden

596
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: just really stretching it near his home, then if infant

597
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: remains are found near the vehicle, that would mean they

598
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: were also near his home. That said, Two ideas. One

599
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: DNA comparison between the infant remains, if they exist and

600
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: her remains to find out if she's the mother. Even

601
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: if the body's decomposed, we can still get some sort

602
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: of a DNA match for Pet's sake. If you can

603
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: crack cold cases fifty years old with DNA, certainly we

604
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: can get DNA from her. And also, Scott, what about

605
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: her hormones, her pregnancy hormones. Would they be able to

606
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: be discerned even though her body had been perhaps shot.

607
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's going to be a long shot, Nancy, given

608
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: the advance state of decomposition. If what they're saying, And

609
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 5: remember what you said earlier about La our friends out

610
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: in LA during this time period when her remains, when

611
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 5: this tessel was found, they were experiencing an incredibly oppressive

612
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: heat wave during this period of time. And I don't

613
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 5: want to go too over the top here, but let's

614
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: just say you talk about these remains inside of a

615
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: vehicle in LA during the summertime during a heat wave.

616
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: Heat speeds things up. And when I talk about speeds

617
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: things up, I'm talking about the degradation of the tissues.

618
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: They're going to be broken down to the point where

619
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 5: I don't know, and Nancy were still to this point,

620
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: there are rumors circling around. They're calling this, they're treating

621
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: this as a homicide. We still don't have a cause

622
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: of death with her, and the fact that they don't

623
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: have a cause of death yet gives us an indication

624
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 5: of the condition of the body. This is really hard

625
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: to parse through. But Nancy, I got another bombshell for

626
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: you here. Guess what. There's a silent witness to all

627
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: of this, and that's that tesla. Remember back in Idaho

628
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 5: one of the things we were looking for when those

629
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: four kids were murdered up there. They were asking the

630
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 5: day after, were there any tesla's around? Were there any

631
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 5: teslas around?

632
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 9: Well?

633
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: Why why would they ask that? Because these teslas come

634
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: equipped with a century system. If you've paid for it,

635
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: this thing has got at least six cameras on the outside.

636
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 5: There's biometrics on the inside. Nancy, we're going to get

637
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: time stamps with this. We might even get a visual

638
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 5: idea of who was opening that frunk and putting this

639
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: poor girl's remains in it.

640
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 7: An unreleased demo song titled Celeste Demo and Finn leaked online,

641
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 7: resurfaced after Celeste Reevas was found dead in a tesla

642
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 7: registered to the singer the Celeste demo. Some details have

643
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 7: led to public speculation matching tattoos. Both David and Celestreevas

644
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 7: had a tattoo on their right index fingers.

645
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: In hindsight, the title Romantic Homicide may not have been

646
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: a good choice for the artist known as David. It

647
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: looks like DFOURVD. It's David. I've listened to a lot

648
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: of his work. It's pretty impressive. But when I know

649
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: a little girl has found butchered in his Tesla trun

650
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: not so much. Take a listen to David promoing his

651
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: song Romantic Homicide.

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Speaker 13: So when inspired the hook in the back of my

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Speaker 13: mind you died, it's kind of like the storytelling aspect

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Speaker 13: of the lyrics that came before it in a way

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Speaker 13: that it builds up to the big moment where she

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Speaker 13: died in the back of my mind. I didn't kill

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Speaker 13: her physically. In the back of my mind, she died

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Speaker 13: and I didn't even cry, not a single tear.

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Speaker 1: That is from the Genius YouTube channel. Interesting that he

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Speaker 1: continued to perform many many appearances after Celeste is found

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Speaker 1: in his trunk, much less from the time that she

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Speaker 1: was murdered. Now, okay, look at this livestream video of

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Speaker 1: David and Celeste. Oh yo, what wait wait, look at

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Speaker 1: answer that one?

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Speaker 3: That so mean if you don't ask one.

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Speaker 13: It was good big family experiment. Oh thank you, Mitch

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Speaker 13: Mitchell Kanzio.

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Speaker 1: Mass.

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Speaker 13: Can we delete all vis and then as soon as

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Speaker 13: the stream ends the stream too.

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Speaker 1: That's what our friends at the Daily Mail. Isn't it true?

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Israel Salath Rodriguez that when all of

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Speaker 1: this was unfolding, the star known as David asked for

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Speaker 1: certain videos to be deleted.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Nancy. There's one that that clip you just

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Speaker 3: showed from. It appears to be a discord live stream

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Speaker 3: where he is pictured alongside this young girl wearing a

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Speaker 3: hoodie and thick glasses, and he appears to tell the

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Speaker 3: live stream can this video be deleted?

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Speaker 1: Guys? I want to look at these Celeste lyrics that

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Speaker 1: have just it's never been released, but it has leaked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: take a look at this. O Celeste, the girl with

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Speaker 1: my name tattooed on her chest, smell it on my

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Speaker 1: clothes like cigarettes. I hear her voice each time I

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Speaker 1: take a breath. I'm obsessed, Oh Celeste, afraid you'll only

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Speaker 1: love me when undressed, but you look so damn gorgeous

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Speaker 1: in that dress. Missing you so much makes me depressed,

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Speaker 1: but I digress, baby, Baby, I love you, so this

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Speaker 1: is what it's like to not need weed to get

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Speaker 1: me high. I love it when you hold me when

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Speaker 1: you cry, just because, just because be my Valentine, I

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Speaker 1: want to make Cupid Sue is sidle. These are the

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Speaker 1: kind of thoughts that cross my mind just because, just

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Speaker 1: because I love you so much, Darling, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: ease your mind, but you only open up when you

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Speaker 1: get high. If I had the money, I would buyas

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Speaker 1: time just to get by, just to stay high. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to be her renown psychoanalyst to figure

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Speaker 1: this out. Dr Bethany Marshall, I think I know why

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Speaker 1: he didn't release it because she's underage.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, which is perhaps one of the reasons he hides

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Speaker 8: her face in all of those photos. Or on the

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Speaker 8: other hand, she's gorgeous and he's afraid that other men

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Speaker 8: will be.

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Speaker 1: Attracted to her.

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Speaker 8: I want to point out that homicide is the leading

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Speaker 8: cause of death amongst pregnant women, since we're talking about

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Speaker 8: her possibly being pregnant. But in terms of these lyrics

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Speaker 8: you only talk to me when you're high. It sounds

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Speaker 8: like an abuser trying to extract all these secrets from

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Speaker 8: an underage girl, and then when she's high, he finally

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Speaker 8: feels like he has access to her innermost thoughts, the

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Speaker 8: idea that you only love me when.

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Speaker 1: You're intimate with me.

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Speaker 8: I don't have those lyrics in front of me right now.

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Speaker 1: To me, this is a man.

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Speaker 8: Who's stuck in rejection that no matter whether the victim

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Speaker 8: is living under his roof, adoring him, covering her face,

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Speaker 8: getting high with him, putting tattoos on her body, it

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Speaker 8: doesn't matter what she does. He's still stuck in a

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Speaker 8: state of rejection.

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Speaker 7: Human remains, wrapped in plastic, placed in a bag and

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Speaker 7: hidden in the front trunk of the tesla are severely

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Speaker 7: decomposed and partially dismembered. Polisse The person was a female

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Speaker 7: five foot too weighing seventy one pounds, with wavy black hair,

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Speaker 7: and was wearing a tube top in black leggings. The

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Speaker 7: person appears deceased inside the vehicle for an extended period

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Speaker 7: of time before being found.

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Speaker 1: Reminder no one has been charged in the disappearance and

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Speaker 1: then murder the dismemberment of this little girl, Celeste Celeste Rivus.

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Speaker 1: No one has been charged, no one has been named.

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Speaker 1: A person of interests me to ask why not. If

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Speaker 1: you know or think you know anything about Celeste's disappearance,

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Speaker 1: please dial two one three four eight six six' eight

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Speaker 1: nine zero repeat two one three four eight six six

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Speaker 1: eight nine. Zero we remember An american, Hero Detective Mark,

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Speaker 1: Baker Northern York County Police, department shot in the line

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Speaker 1: of duty after twenty four years IN la law. Enforcement

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Speaker 1: leaves behind for grieving. Children american Hero Detective Mark. Baker

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Speaker 1: Nancy gray signing off good wise, man

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Speaker 8: Assass