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Speaker 2: Okay, it is all right to have this discussion. Now,

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Speaker 2: it is fair. It is above board. Eli Manning in

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Speaker 2: Class of twenty twenty four enshrining Canton speeches, everything wrapping

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Speaker 2: up yesterday, Now we look ahead to the Class of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and Adam Schefter could not wait, so

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Speaker 2: the final speech was given to type out who was

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Speaker 2: going to be first time candidates that were eligible for

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And the first name on that

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Speaker 2: tweet is the headline grabber. Because it was not done alphabetically.

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Speaker 2: The first name was one Eli Manning of the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. And curious, since we're in the football mode,

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Speaker 2: is the Hall of Fame game happened on Thursday and

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned the ceremonies. Let's stick in that sort

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Speaker 2: of realm. Yeah, the debate I think now can ensue

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Speaker 2: from now until the NFL Honors Show in February when

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Speaker 2: the class of twenty twenty five is announced. But Eli

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Speaker 2: Manning hall of Famer? Does that sound right to you?

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Speaker 2: Does that sound off to you? Where are you when

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Speaker 2: it comes to Eli Manning's Hall of Fame status?

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Speaker 3: When I hear Eli Manning hall of Famer, I just

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Speaker 3: think of inevitability. Inevitability, right, I think that's the word

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Speaker 3: that comes to mind for me, And I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's true. I do believe that obviously it will end

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Speaker 3: up taking place. But if all things were created equal

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Speaker 3: and fairly, which they are not in this world, I

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Speaker 3: don't think he would be And that's no.

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Speaker 2: I think Eli's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: I think he's won some big games, he sewed up

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Speaker 3: in some big moments, but over the course of watching

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Speaker 3: him play and being a peer of his for a

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Speaker 3: long time, yeah, I just don't. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: should be. But like I said, it probably it will happen.

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Speaker 3: You think it will, it will. That's and that's where

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Speaker 3: the onus is. And I think that's where we have

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Speaker 3: to start.

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Speaker 2: Is it's not as much of is Eli Manning a

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Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer, Is he worthy of a

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Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. It's more of a plea

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Speaker 2: to the selection committee of the Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame to do what's right, to do what's fair. And

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Speaker 2: I think that we have gotten to the point a

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Speaker 2: little bit. You know, baseball is usually pretty pretty sticky

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Speaker 2: in terms of who gets in and who doesn't get in. Yeah, However,

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, there's been a little

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Speaker 2: bit more leniency. We've had younger voters that seems that

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Speaker 2: the old guard was very stringent and strict on who

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Speaker 2: they would want to allow in and who shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: allowed in. The Pro Football Hall of Fame voters different

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Speaker 2: story in terms of they are just there's always a

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Speaker 2: full class. There was never a point. We've had baseball

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Speaker 2: years where no one has gotten and no one has

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Speaker 2: reached that seventy five percent threshold. With the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, you have full class after full class

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Speaker 2: after full class where you're putting guys in because maybe

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Speaker 2: they didn't get in a few years prior and should

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Speaker 2: have been. It's it's just a I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say it's a free for all, because that's not the

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Speaker 2: right term. But they're maxing out every single year and

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Speaker 2: they're making sure that everybody gets in, to the point

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Speaker 2: where Dan Sanders is like, all right, we kind of

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Speaker 2: need a different wing of this Hall of Fame. There's

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Speaker 2: a Hall of good and then there's a Hall of Greats.

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Speaker 2: There is the real Hall of Fame, and you need

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Speaker 2: a different wing of that. And I think that's kind

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Speaker 2: of where we are with the Hall of Fame. But

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Speaker 2: when you look at the voters in what they are

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Speaker 2: about to do in voting, Eli Manning's name jumps off

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Speaker 2: the board with this quarterback New York, two Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: the whole deal. But it's almost like you have to

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Speaker 2: protect the field. You have to protect it for everyone

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Speaker 2: else because you're going to have names that are coming

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Speaker 2: in in the next couple of years. Drew Brees, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 2: those guys are first ballot Hall of Famers and you

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Speaker 2: have to separate the classes. And it's that reason why

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Speaker 2: I believe that Eli Manning will end up in the

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame at some point. He just

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Speaker 2: cannot be a first ballot Hall of Famer. If you

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Speaker 2: at trying to grab headlines, and because he is really

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Speaker 2: the only quarterback that would be up for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: all the wrong reasons. You can make an argument that

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. I have a

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Speaker 2: very difficult time making the argument that he is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: That's just that would be asinine to be to be honest,

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Speaker 3: And again, this is not a shot at Eli.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, he's been.

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Speaker 3: He was a very steady, good, good quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and that's that is an accolade in itself. Then you

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Speaker 3: throw in the two championships, obviously, and then you throw

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Speaker 3: in who he beat to win those championships obviously. The

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Speaker 3: the graptas that comes with that, or the weight that

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Speaker 3: comes with that is you know, it's it's it's pretty high.

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Speaker 3: I think you know a lot of guys don't beat

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Speaker 3: that guy in the Super Bowls. But again, I think

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Speaker 3: The other argument with that part of the story is

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Speaker 3: how much on this and how much credit we give quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You think about that that team with the Giants didn't

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Speaker 3: win because of Eli. He made big throws in those games,

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Speaker 3: you know, to add on and to help that situation, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but both of those Patriot wins were they didn't They

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Speaker 3: didn't score over twenty four points in those games. They

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Speaker 3: weren't like high, high flying ELI putting up astronomical numbers.

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Speaker 3: And they won the game because of Eli. It was

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Speaker 3: a total team effort, that defense and that first one

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Speaker 3: didn't give him any time to throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's the reason they won that game.

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Speaker 3: And Eli threw to the big touchdown at the end

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Speaker 3: the plexico obviously, which is exiting our minds.

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Speaker 2: So it's always things on top of that, the thing

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Speaker 2: about the thing about the first Super Bowl, And by

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Speaker 2: the way, just for the record, ELI does have two

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVPs, so it's even MVPs of those games.

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Speaker 2: But the Tyree catch is amazing. ELI scramble is a

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Speaker 2: part of that. Yes, b Xico was wide open that

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could have thrown it to him.

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Speaker 2: I mean you had thrown it in, called it. You

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Speaker 2: called it.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your career has crossed over Eli's. Yeah. How many

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Speaker 2: times did you face him face each other? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Quite a bit? Uh a lot of times. They didn't really

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Speaker 3: rivalry in the pree in the preseason, so it really

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Speaker 3: didn't matter. But we played him a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Now, if I gave you this list, here's here's the

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Speaker 2: first ballot, Hall of Fames. Let's take Eli off to

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Speaker 2: the sack. He's one of them. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: back to him because he's the main point of this conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you some names and you just

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Speaker 2: say yes or the first ballot, not saying overall hall

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Speaker 2: of fame. All these players are worthy, I believe, of

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Speaker 2: consideration into the Hall of Fame. But I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you. Tell me if they're first ballot, Terrell Suggs

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Speaker 2: Leeb not first ballot, Marshall Yonder first ballot, Adam Viniti.

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Speaker 3: If there was a ballot before the first ballot, that

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Speaker 3: would be Adam Vannetier, like, no doubt about it, Yes

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Speaker 3: for sure, yes, yes, So you have Suggs, Keith, Lee, Yonder,

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Speaker 3: and Ventitarius first timers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and Eli not one of those. So that would

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Speaker 2: be four four of the spots. Now you also have

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Speaker 2: to consider who is left over from last year, and

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Speaker 2: there are different you know, there are different categories that

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Speaker 2: you put in. But Eric Allen, Willie Anderson, Jarry Evans,

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Speaker 2: Tory Holt, and Darren Woodson. So you have those guys

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Speaker 2: who have waited. Who pops out on that list?

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Speaker 3: Well, Antonio Gates number one, Yes, absolutely, there's no way

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Speaker 3: he should in, being already probably should have been in

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Speaker 3: this past year. Yes, and then it's going to be

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Speaker 3: really hard for Fred Taylor as good as he is,

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Speaker 3: and he really is I think a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: fact that he's off I always look at him because

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Speaker 2: I play against him a little bit as well. And these,

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Speaker 2: by the way, we're the ten finalists for the induction

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Speaker 2: have five get in, five get picked. These are the

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Speaker 2: if you put Antonio Gates and you had those four full,

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Speaker 2: like it's to that point. And that's where again where

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning I just don't think is up to I think,

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Speaker 2: of all of them, I think Terrell Suggs is the

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Speaker 2: no brainer of this of getting in. I could be

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Speaker 2: Suggs to me was just such an absolute beast. And

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Speaker 2: I liked Earl Thomas. I think of Legion of Boom.

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Speaker 2: I would say that and be very emphatic in the

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Speaker 2: same belief that you have. But I actually think that

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Speaker 2: Cam chencor is the better safety out of the two,

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Speaker 2: more complete and so you know, and and for so

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's a different style of play, But if those

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Speaker 2: but I see him as more of the sure the

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Speaker 2: solidifying force between those two. Where it's funny to me,

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Speaker 2: Earl was a seven time Pro Bowl, three time All Pro.

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Speaker 2: I know number you know safeties, Yeah, he's got no

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Speaker 2: safeties over here? Yeah, I say, Vinitary has got to

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Speaker 2: You have to put him in for I felt Devin

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Speaker 2: Hester needed to be in because of his specialty. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not first ballot, but you are talking about a kicker

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Speaker 2: who made some of the most clutch kicks we have

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Speaker 2: All Pro Carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Byer talking some football, Sandra.

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Speaker 2: To it's end, Reggie Wayne absolutely belongs in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. Before Eli Manning glory days of the Colts

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Speaker 2: would not have been without Reggie Wayne. For sure.

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Speaker 3: You think so, oh, I don't think he's I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying you something to get in before elied, but it's

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Speaker 3: true to uh yeah, I mean those days with the Colts,

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Speaker 3: I mean he was he wasn't one, but he was

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Speaker 3: one a as good as as good as the main

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Speaker 3: Rovin Harrison was. I mean, Reggie Wayne was just as good. Sure,

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Speaker 3: and then there was a point where Harrison moved on.

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Speaker 3: Wayne was, yeah, you know, took over the It took

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Speaker 3: the torch. Reggy Wayne has also waited a little while,

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Speaker 3: as is Tory Holt. Yes, in this same thing of

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Speaker 3: Isaac Bruce Tory Holts, the later one that comes along

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Speaker 3: and now it's a little tougher for Isaac Bruce and

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Speaker 3: Marvin Arrison, both in the Hall of Fame. Now Holt

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Speaker 3: and Wayne waiting their opportunities. Gary Johnson sweets in to me,

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Speaker 3: only you failed to mention ELI won two Super Bowl MVPs.

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Speaker 3: We said, not only did I mention that, Gary, I

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Speaker 3: mentioned it twice. Okay, I mentioned it twice in that

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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty minutes that we talked about. So I

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Speaker 3: his point is every other person who's won the award

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Speaker 3: at least twice is in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it helps. I think that the

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Speaker 2: NFL was different at that point back then. But bart

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Speaker 2: Starr won back to back Hall of I mean he's

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah, he's Joe Montana four

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Speaker 2: super Bowl I don't think that they're saying Montana is

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Speaker 2: in because of his Super Bowl MVPs, Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: think that that's the level of it. Eli is such

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Speaker 2: an odd case that he got to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: twice and won the MVP twice, but his team's completely

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Speaker 2: flamed that Eli made four Pro Bowls. Yeah, just four

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Speaker 2: in a conference, by the way, that was not littered

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Speaker 2: with Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning exactly.

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Speaker 2: You know, you did have to get past Drew Brees,

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Speaker 2: but Aaron Rodgers, Brett Farv part of that as well.

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Speaker 2: But still just four Pro Bowls. And then again, this

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Speaker 2: is why he shouldn't be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get in the Hall of Fame, just don't

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Speaker 2: do it next year. And that's a part of that point.

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Speaker 2: And that's the part Dan, It's like, there's no hard

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Speaker 2: criteria for it. So this is why a discussion is

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Speaker 2: so layered and so hard because, like I said, if

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Speaker 2: you had to reach certain milestones of certain numbers and

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Speaker 2: that was kind of like the precursor to your Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame career, it would be more black and white,

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Speaker 2: it would be more clear. But the fact that, like

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Speaker 2: you said, only four Pro Bowls, cool, he's got two

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVPs.

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Speaker 3: Does that counter the argument in a hard, concrete way. No,

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Speaker 3: but it could be for somebody else. But again, these

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Speaker 3: are all subjective things, right, and so that's where it

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Speaker 3: becomes a conundrum, like it is right now.

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Speaker 2: There's the popularity of players, is uh huh is a

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Speaker 2: big one as well. Yes, I also think that when

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Speaker 2: you look at specifically the running back position you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Fred Taylor, I think we look at it differently. No

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Speaker 2: disrespect to Marshawn Lynch, who is up for the first time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Fred Taylor should be in before Marshawn Lynch. I

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Speaker 2: hope he better. I hope so. But the question is,

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Speaker 2: is because Marshawn Lynch and his popularity, and obviously there's

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Speaker 2: a recency bias. Yes, And also I would say when

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Speaker 2: you look at how we would look at current running backs,

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Speaker 2: Marshaw Lynch had four straight c you know, a thousand

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Speaker 2: yards and double digit touchdowns for the Seahawks. That may

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Speaker 2: not seem like a ton, but in today's NFL it

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Speaker 2: puts you into the conversation. He also had a couple

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Speaker 2: of thousand yard years when he was in Buffalo early

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Speaker 2: on in his career. We know about the Beast quake.

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Speaker 2: I mean, aside from the legend of him not getting

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Speaker 2: the football at the one yard line. May help him

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame more than anything else. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But like there's so there's the popularity of Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 2: But I just the Fred Taylor thing and I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm a broken record because whenever I talk about

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Speaker 2: the NFL, I just go back to the point of

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Speaker 2: I think guys like Tiki Barber and Fred Taylor and

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Speaker 2: Warwick Dunne and Ricky Waters are completely neglected because they

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Speaker 2: did both. And even you know, Priest Holmes was a

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Speaker 2: fantasy football point producing machine and then Larry Johnson when

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Speaker 2: he moved in same thing, and I don't think that

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Speaker 2: those guys are thought of. Stephen Jackson during his time

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Speaker 2: at the Saint Louis Rams like was was a runner

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Speaker 2: and a pass receiver and pass catcher out of the backfield,

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Speaker 2: and we kind of just think of those guys as whatever,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that's necessarily fair. Where Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch is now, I mean, he's worthy enough for

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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter put him on his list, and I think

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Speaker 2: people are gonna say, yeah, I think Lynch should be

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. Maybe one day he will, but

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Speaker 2: I just don't think first team. That's why I think

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Speaker 2: Earl Thomas is the better as a Seahawk fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if I had to pick one or the other, Earl

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Speaker 2: Thomas would be the one that would go in and

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Speaker 2: ahead of marsha On Lynch.

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Speaker 3: How many years do you how many years did the

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Speaker 3: Earl Thomas I guess dominate. Well, I would say was

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Speaker 3: dominant in that run. I know early on he really was.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just trying to compare the years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Martin, here's the thing is like Earl Thomas took

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Speaker 2: care of everyone's mistakes. Sure, yeah, yeah, you know he's

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Speaker 2: a three time All Pro. He was the All Decade

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Speaker 2: safety in the twenty tens, seven time Pro bowler. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's I guess seven years he was. He was

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Speaker 2: a Defensive Player of the Year. He finished third in

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. Wow. He was first team All Pro three

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Speaker 2: straight years, earned two other second team All Pro designations

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Speaker 2: and you being an All Pro Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: that's like and trying to break through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's funny because you said it, though. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's as good as Earl Thomas was, and I trust me,

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Speaker 3: I'm not discrediting anything he did was it was brilliant

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Speaker 3: in some of those years and some of the plays

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Speaker 3: that he made and on that team, especially being in

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Speaker 3: those high state games and we were able to see

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Speaker 3: him on you know, in those big moments he was

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Speaker 3: making all the plays and so you got to give

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Speaker 3: him credit for it. But there's a level of what

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Speaker 3: you just said, there's a popularity thing where you know,

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Speaker 3: they have the secondary, they're the leasion, they have all

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Speaker 3: these things that are surrounding them, and so everything they

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Speaker 3: did was magnified. And so like you get to see

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Speaker 3: that and you get to see how great he was,

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Speaker 3: but there's so other other guys along the way along

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Speaker 3: that journey that are just you know, right up there

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Speaker 3: with him, were probably just as good that didn't get

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Speaker 3: the credit. So that's why I kind of it's kind

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Speaker 3: of hard from me when I see Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: numbers and things happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Richard Sherman is the mouth of that crew.

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Speaker 2: You're watching cam Child like so much. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: just play it against the run and against the past

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Speaker 2: and what he did. But I really think that that

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Speaker 2: Earl was a key part of that. Sure not at

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Speaker 2: a one hundred per Jason tweets in he's fifty three,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like they're letting everyone in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame that we're remotely good. So that's kind of

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Speaker 2: our point as well. Yeah, someone who's great is at

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Speaker 2: the news desk right now, Isaac Lohnkron, giving us the

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Speaker 2: latest of what is happening, and then we'll weigh in

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Speaker 2: on the new kickoff topic in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Isaac, Good afternoon. I guess if you're on

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Speaker 2: the East coast as well, how are things with you today?

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Speaker 7: Indeed, and fellas well, we have a lot to get

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Speaker 7: to in the Olympics. We actually have some fresh college

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Speaker 7: football news on this Sunday morning because new Michigan head

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Speaker 7: coach Sharon Moore is being accused of violating NCAA rules

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Speaker 7: as part of the Connor Stallions scandal. Oh what, Oh geez,

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Speaker 7: it's all according to a draft of an NC double

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Speaker 7: a notice of allegations that was obtained by ESPN. The

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Speaker 7: draft alleges More deleted a thread of fifty two text

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Speaker 7: messages between him and Stallions so he could face a

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Speaker 7: show cause penalty and or suspension. Former Michigan head coach

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Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh also accused of committing a violation for denying

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Speaker 7: an NC double a request to view messages and records

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Speaker 7: from his personal cell phone.

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Speaker 2: He missed three games, so that's good enough. That's good enough. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you finish your update and then I will no.

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Speaker 7: No, no, I mean when I mean we all have

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Speaker 7: things on our cell phone on our cell phones, I

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Speaker 7: mean it's probably cast sictures.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got that's right.

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Speaker 1: I have my own crew.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm completely biased as an Ohio State fan

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Speaker 2: and everybody else in Collge football heats Ohio State.

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Speaker 8: But the way that Michigan got such a free pass

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Speaker 8: for this garbage, I mean it is amazing.

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Speaker 2: People are, hey, oh, look Jim.

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Speaker 8: Harbaugh's tattoo, Michigan National champs. They had the they had

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Speaker 8: the cheap codes, they had all of it. They could

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Speaker 8: have the Big Ten whimped out by giving them a

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Speaker 8: three game ban. They should have kicked him out of

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Speaker 8: the entire Big Ten championship game.

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Speaker 2: But the worst part about it is nobody cares.

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Speaker 8: Like if this was Alabama or if this was Ohio State,

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Speaker 8: people would care so much.

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Speaker 2: But for some.

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Speaker 8: Reason, no one gives a flip and like, oh, Michigan,

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Speaker 8: good job, go Blue, what a joke? Like yeah, the

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Speaker 8: NCAA is gonna be handing down their notice of allegation.

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Speaker 2: They're like, I don't think they're gonna make it an

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Speaker 2: he wins.

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Speaker 1: Why why they all happened just now?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, sorry, Isaac, go ahead, No, I love it.

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Speaker 7: I I mean, Carrie, I've never seen Dan this agitant.

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Speaker 3: I was so happy, so mild mannered, so so annoying,

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Speaker 3: like it's oh, it's just.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, quivering with rain. I think ILove set this

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Speaker 2: up on purpose. You did it on purpose.

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Speaker 5: Let's put it this way.

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Speaker 7: I actually deleted my text messages just before going on

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Speaker 7: the air to erase the digital paper trail. One note,

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Speaker 7: these allegations technically still come from a draft of the.

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Speaker 2: Notice of allegations.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it is not final and still subject to change.

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Speaker 7: I mean, what if you accidentally X out the Microsoft

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Speaker 7: word document without saving it. There's still a chance of that.

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Speaker 7: Happened on to the Olympics, where he had a dramatic finish.

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Speaker 1: In men's golf.

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Speaker 7: Today, American Scottie Scheffler won the gold incredible nine hundred

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Speaker 7: sixty two in the final round. He finished at nineteen

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Speaker 7: under par overall, one ahead of Tommy Fleetwood, who won

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Speaker 7: the silver, two ahead of Hideki Matsuyama, who won the bronze.

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Speaker 7: The US women's basketball team right now up seventy seven

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Speaker 7: fifty four over Germany in the fourth quarter. American Christian

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Speaker 7: Faulkner has won the gold medal in the women's cycling

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Speaker 7: road race, and Novak Djokovic won the gold medal in

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Speaker 7: men's tennis today with a seven six seven sixth victory

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Speaker 7: over Carlos A. Karaz, Djokovic's first career gold medal. Back

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Speaker 7: to Carry Rhodes and the agitated Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll chill out for a little bit. No,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I love it.

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Speaker 5: This is the show now, Carrie. I hope you're ready.

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Speaker 2: No, I was ready. I was pumping them up too.

648
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: I was egging it on. It's the day of there

649
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: there are people who still talk about tattoos with Ohio State.

650
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: That was like fifteen years ago. Okay, it's a long

651
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: time ago. And this is just moved on, just swept

652
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: under the rug where they had a blatant cheating scheme.

653
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: For some reason, it sticks with Bill Belichick, but Jim

654
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: harbought everybody else's teflon and it just slides off of

655
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: them and they get all that. It's it. It's just

656
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: I do not understand why I got a question.

657
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: I got a question for you, Dan, So can you

658
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: tell me exactly how you really feel about Michigans?

659
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

660
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 5: Man, you know what the best part of this right now,

661
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: I'm sure as we're gonna find out more. Uh, the

662
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 5: draft letter does in fact confirm that NCAA investigators saw

663
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: Connor Stallions on the sideline wearing a disguise at one

664
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: of the games. So that's all true. Yeah, like this

665
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 5: guy was out there for wearing a fake mustache, stealing signs,

666
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: Like that's awesome.

667
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: And yeah, like that we kept finding Stallions like it's

668
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: a where's Waldo games? Is funny, But to your point, Dan,

669
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: like that's legit, Like as funny as it is, that's

670
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: far more legitimate cheating than anything about any kind of tattoo.

671
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: And removing Jim Harbaugh from the sideline. I'm sorry the

672
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: Hayes in the barn right, right, Like Michigan and Ohio

673
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: State game plan for each other three hundred and sixty

674
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: five days out of the year, right, so like he's

675
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: not on the sidelines for that game. That sounded that's

676
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: not a big, big loss, Like it's I mean, maybe

677
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: a little bit for a decision here or there, but

678
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: like it's the game plan you know what you're gonna

679
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna do a month prior, of course. And he's right,

680
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: he's phone call away. It's not like he's you know,

681
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: he's a red phone call away. So it's not's he

682
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: wasn't that far removed either, So oh man, it's just

683
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: I it's it's a double, it's it's it. The whole

684
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: scenario annoys me. But then how everybody is just cool

685
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: with it or accepts it and oh, let's just move

686
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: on when it was happening this past season and it

687
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: happened in seasons prior, and yet it's it's different where

688
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, a kid got a bag of catch

689
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: before nil, sure, and then ends up playing that has

690
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: nothing to do on the field, like oh, they paid

691
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: him two hundred grand to go to the school. Of course,

692
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: you know, vacate all those wins. Kentucky just had their

693
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: wins vacated from twenty twenty one in twenty twenty two

694
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: or about to there. And that was part of what

695
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: the NCAA said was that they gave impermissible benefits to

696
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: players because the work that they were being paid to do,

697
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: like was not completed and they're going to wipe out

698
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: seventeen Kentucky wins. Oh wow, yeah in twenty twenty one

699
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: and twenty two. Good but this no national championship stands.

700
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Please all right, We're gonna get to the kickoff rule.

701
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan By. I already got a

702
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: cry baby tweet. Somebody sent me I might make Carrie

703
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: twenty five Roads. You can find me and Dan Velure

704
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: on Fox. I know, I like it's the numbers are

705
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: against me. Dan, it's twenty twenty four. Man, can he

706
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: mote emote let it out? He can't call you a crybaby? Uh?

707
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: I do I know it sounded like a cry baby.

708
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: I know, I did, I know I did. He's carry on, Dan,

709
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: It's next year on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

710
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: He's the all Pro carrier Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. An

711
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: NFL coaches wayed in on the new kickoff rule after

712
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: watching what happened on Thursday night, we will as well.

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Speaker 2: a winner as well. Sean Payton watched the kickoff on

732
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Thursday and night or the kickoffs between the Texans and Bears, says, hey,

733
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: if you're not going to kick the ball in what

734
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: is the landing zone, it shouldn't be brought out to

735
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: the thirty yard line. He didn't think that that was

736
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: punishment enough. He says it should be brought out to

737
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: the thirty five yard line. Was one of his adjustments

738
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: that he thought. I watched the new kickoff rule and

739
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: felt that what we're going to see in this NFL

740
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: season are a lot more touchdowns on kickoff returns. That

741
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: is my takeaway from actually watching it and happen. If

742
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: you break through that first line of defense carry or

743
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: second line of defense, I think you're gone to the house.

744
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: I think all you gotta do is beat the kicker,

745
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: and it's the only guy who got to beat. I

746
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: don't think there's gonna be anybody coming from the opposite

747
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: side of the field that's gonna be able to chase

748
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: you down. That's where I think we are where this

749
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: kickoff is not so much about whether the ball should

750
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: be kicked in the landing zone and brought out to

751
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: the thirty five. I thought the thirty was penalty enough,

752
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: but Trump Payton wats the thirty five. But I think

753
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna get some big plays this year. Everything stays

754
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: the same.

755
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they moved out

756
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: to the thirty five. I mean, obviously this is for protection,

757
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: but it's also for the return.

758
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: Team to score easier off to return. Right, that's part

759
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: of the process. That's really what it is.

760
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean when you watch it, so I wouldn't be

761
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: surprised if they moved to the thirty five. And I

762
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: don't like it because I'm old school, I'm a purist.

763
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: I understand you know how big of a deal it

764
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: is for a lot of those guys on kickoff team

765
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 3: and those return teams, Like a lot of those guys

766
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: make the team because of this, right, And so you're

767
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 3: taking away somebody's ability to stand out on that side

768
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: of the ball as a kick cover guy because there's

769
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: guys that do that really really well. So you're eliminating

770
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: that part of that for them, So that job for

771
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: them may be gone. So I see it that way,

772
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: So I will look at it as a negative to

773
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: that point. But also, I mean, we're just taking out

774
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: all of the aggression of the game. I mean that

775
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: that is part of it. It is a lot of

776
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: injuries do take place on that but that is part

777
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: of the fun and excitement that happens with with the

778
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: old kickoff rules. I don't really like this, and I

779
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 3: can't really follow it.

780
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: It was actually a little odd looking to me because

781
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: we're so used to having a line of scrimmage, beefier

782
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: guys forming that offensive line, and here you basically feel

783
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: like you have ten guys across the line that are

784
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: all I don't know, safeties and maybe edge rushers about

785
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: that size, and you're defending the whole place, which I

786
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: actually think would be a little difficult to lock. It

787
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: could be wrong, but I haven't been in this sort

788
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: of formation or played in this sort of formation, but

789
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: it just seemed very spread out and very thin. But

790
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: I just think if you break through that line of defense,

791
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: that you're going to be able to get a lot

792
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: of touchdowns, a lot more touchdowns on returns than we've

793
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: seen in the past, let alone just returns. Period. But

794
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: John Payton says, thirty yard line is if a team

795
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: got the ball in the thirty against you as a defense,

796
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: are you good with thirty? Are you just like all

797
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: right here? I know thirty five is pushing it. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: I thought thirty was also kind of pushing in. Yeah,

799
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: thirty is pushing.

800
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: I mean, seventy yards doesn't It seems like a long way,

801
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: But it's it's not because at the end of the day,

802
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: you get thirty five yards and field goal ry. It's

803
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: not just about the touchdown part of it. And I

804
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: said this on Friday.

805
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: With the kickers that we've got in the NFL now

806
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: and the facilities that they're kicking in. So if I

807
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: at and T stadium, indoor facilities, turf like your your

808
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: field goal range is a lot longer. Fifty eight and

809
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: sixty yard field goal attempts are much more of the

810
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: norm in the National Football League. So if you are

811
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: already starting at the thirty yard line, a couple of

812
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: first downs, you know, to the forty two, and then

813
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: now you're to you know, the opponent forty seven. You know,

814
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: if you get fifteen yards, whatever the case, you know,

815
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: eleven twelve yards, you're in that neighborhood. So that's why

816
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: I think thirty is sufficient. But Sean Payton wants to

817
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: tighten the screws. Of course, he's carrier outs. I'm Dan Beyer.

818
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: We made a case for Eli Manning to not be

819
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: in a Hall of Fame. Now we make a case

820
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: for the top one hundred to go away completely again.

821
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: I know I can skew negative Carrie. When we were

822
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: talking about Eli Manning and his Hall of Fame case.

823
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: We're probably gonna skew negative as we rip the shreds

824
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: this top one hundred show that the NFL network puts together.

825
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: But I want to shed some lights. I want to

826
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: shed some positivity. Olympic golf was magnificent today, even though

827
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: I was asleep for most of it. What was great

828
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: is coming down the stretch. I was here late last night.

829
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I was even in with Bernie Fratto on the overnight,

830
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: so I had to get some shut eye at some point.

831
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: But when you have when you finish third in a

832
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: golf tournament, usually you get a pretty nice paycheck, but

833
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: you don't get anything for it. Here, Hideki Mantciama gets

834
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: to bring home some hardware with the bronze. Tommy Fleetwood

835
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: ended up not faltering down the stretch, but had a

836
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: tough bogie as he was winding down his round. But

837
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: guess what your consolation prize silver? Not bad. You can

838
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: always say that you left with the medal at the

839
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: Olympic Games. And there was a lot of talk this

840
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: week about maybe golf needs to change the format make

841
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: it a team competition. There have been other team competitions

842
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: that they've done outside of the Olympics that would have

843
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: us against Ireland. And obviously we know about the Ryder

844
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: Cup and the President's Cup. But this, I'll tell you what.

845
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: The way that it ended today and the excitement that

846
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: you have and the players jockeying for medals, I thought

847
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: was good. I don't know if they'll make a change.

848
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that they should, because when we're watching

849
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: swimming or we're watching track and field, we care about

850
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: the final. We care about what's going to happen in

851
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: the final and who's going to make it in that

852
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: final race. The preliminary runs, the semi final runs that

853
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: you have in track and field, the semi final heats

854
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: that you have in swimming are nice, but they're not

855
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: the main deal. And I feel that's the first three

856
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: rounds of golf that it all comes down to this

857
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: final round and what you can do, just like it

858
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: is in swimming. Just like we saw yesterday wash to

859
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Carrie Richardson unable to get gold, but she ends up

860
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: getting silver. Doesn't matter what you do in any of

861
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: the preliminary you know heats and runs, and it's what

862
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: you do in that final round. And I think it

863
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: worked for golf.

864
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: Or what about having a team a team a team

865
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: belt as well and also the individual would you like

866
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 3: having that type of carry over with it as well?

867
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 2: That would be that would be unique in the way

868
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: of and what you could do. Honestly, if there was

869
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: a way, I don't know how they would technically do it.

870
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: You could combine men's and women's. You could have a men's,

871
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: you could have a women's. You could just take the score,

872
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: a cumulative score of your team and give out a metal.

873
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: I think all of that could work. Yeah, but there

874
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: was just some flak given that there wasn't much buzz.

875
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: But I think today was another good day for Olympic golf.

876
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: By the way, the Olympics one of our topics coming

877
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Speaker 2: The MVP Patrick Mahomes has the Super Bowl rings, but

885
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: it was Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins who topped

886
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: the NFL's top one hundred list unveiled by the NFL Network.

887
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: And this is I take the bait. I will gladly

888
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: take it, and I will be considered a sucker because

889
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: I feel that's what these shows are about, in making

890
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: us have a conversation. But I was I wouldn't say shocked,

891
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: but I was very surprised that a quarterback not named

892
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes or Jackson was not the top player in the

893
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: NFL this past season. I don't doubt that Tyreek Hill

894
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: has great value, and I feel that Tyreek Hill has

895
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 2: been underrated as an actual receiver in the NFL because

896
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: we just look at his speed and think, like all,

897
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: that's who Tyreek Hill is. I actually think he's a

898
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: really good receiver and with all the different things that

899
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: you can do with him, maybe make him more valuable.

900
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: And obviously that has been the message given to the

901
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: rest of the league as he was voted number one.

902
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that Tyreek Hills, a football player, is

903
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: getting this recognition. I just find it difficult when we

904
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: put so much weight on the quarterback position to see

905
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: that Lamar Jackson was the MVP or Patrick Mahomes, who

906
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: wins this third Super Bowl, is not number one on

907
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: this list.

908
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're talking about individual season, yes, it's going

909
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: to be the excite I didn't brand the football.

910
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: That Tyreek Hill plays the way that he has the big.

911
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: Splashes and he automatically instills fear in fear in most

912
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: DB's once you know when they line up across from

913
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: him just because of his speed, right, so we know

914
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: that that's a thing.

915
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: He had a great year. I could see him being

916
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: in the top five.

917
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: Obviously, it is hard to see Lamar Jackson or Patrick

918
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: Mahomes not being number one. Lamar Jackson was the MVP,

919
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: and you know, Mahomes did have a pretty i would say,

920
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: under the radar sub par year for the most part

921
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: of that year last year until the stretch run, So

922
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: I could see why he wasn't number one just from

923
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: that standpoint. But yeah, it's it was interesting to see

924
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: a non quarterback guy, Yeah one.

925
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: And Mahomes wasn't two, and Mahomes wasn't three. Mahomes was

926
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: four on this list to that point, which then to

927
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: me magnifies some of the problems that we're seeing. Not

928
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes was four, but this domino effect of

929
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: where the rankings are, and that's where I kind of

930
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: want to dive in is this is a TV show,

931
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: This doesn't matter, but this does get us talking, and

932
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: I think that if we're going to start the real conversation,

933
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: what also happens with the players in the NFL voting

934
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: this stuff? And Bo Benson's our executive producer, give us

935
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: more of a layout about what this top one hundred

936
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 2: really is supposed to be, which will make you even

937
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: question it even more. But what this does say to me,

938
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: because we're a little more than a week than away

939
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: from Tua getting his extension, is that NFL players around

940
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: the league say it's Tyreek Kill that makes that Dolphins

941
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: offense go, and not to a tongue of Iloa. If

942
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Tyreek Kill is this good who had threatened Calvin Johnson's

943
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: single season mark. This is the fourteenth year. This is

944
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: all said even in the NFL Networks bio on having

945
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill be number one, first time that a wide

946
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: receiver has gotten that mark. To me, that tells me

947
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: the players around the league think that the secret sauce

948
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: and maybe not so secret sauce of the Dolphins has

949
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: everything to do with Tyreek Hill and not as much

950
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: to do with to a tongue of by law.

951
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, individually looking at it, you could I

952
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: think you could say that, and you would say that

953
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: coming off of last year, right, the times that they

954
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: couldn't get the ball to Tyrek Deep or he couldn't

955
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: make a big play, that Dolphins was pretty pretty normal

956
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: outside of the run game. Outside of the run game,

957
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: the run game was still kind of dynamic, but that

958
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: would also be another factor that still would not include Tua, right,

959
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: So correct, You're correct in that assessment.

960
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: So those are those are some of the things that

961
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: stick out and maybe some of the warts that we

962
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: can end up pointing to. Bo Benson is our executive producer. Bo,

963
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: you kind of were talking prior to the show on

964
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: what this top one hundred actually is that this this

965
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: culmination of voting where they the voting is done late

966
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: in the regular season and not unveiled until the summer.

967
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: So it's been a while, Well what actually makes up

968
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: this top one hundred? What do what is the NFL

969
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: network saying that the criteria is when we're looking at this.

970
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: So as far as I know, this, voting takes place

971
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: in December, so you're not even you're like, what halfway

972
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: through the season at that point, maybe a little more

973
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 5: than half.

974
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we probably got about four or five weeks ago.

975
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 5: Voting takes place in December, and I believe I read

976
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 5: that they're asked to fill out like the twenty best

977
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: players and they tally all those and kind of you know,

978
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: figure it out from there to make a list of

979
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: one hundred. And it's also only for that season, but

980
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: the list is going into next season as well.

981
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: So it's really weird because you had a beef that

982
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald was not Yeah, Aaron.

983
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 5: Donald was not on this list because he's not gonna

984
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: playing next year, and I think that's stupid.

985
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I would agree with that. I would

986
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: to that point of if you're going to put him

987
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: on any list. Yeah, Aaron Donald to be a top

988
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: one hundred player in the NFL last season.

989
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's my most dominant defensive player I've ever

990
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: seen to me, so yeah, I agree.

991
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: So Aaron Donald is not on the list. Tua, by

992
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: the way, is thirty sixth in these rankings, So two

993
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: is thirty six, Joe Burrow is thirty ninth.

994
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: What was your other ranking that you looked at and

995
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: was like, this is this is a terrible ranking.

996
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 2: Two of them. I got it ready and I'm gonna

997
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: lead in. So this is this is the part of

998
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: it Tobo's point. So Joe Burrow is hurt. Yeah, but

999
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is three spots back of Tua. Like there's

1000
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: in no right world would we pick Joe Burrow or

1001
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Tua over Joe Burrow, I believe, But yet it's somehow

1002
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: with the votes tallied, Yeah, close enough where Tuo has

1003
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: got a slight edge over Joe Burrow. If just based

1004
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: on availability, then sure then absolutely. But when you see

1005
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: it just it's I'll get to the ones that make

1006
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: me mad right now, and just two and Joe Burrow

1007
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: in the same breath are just difficult for me to handle.

1008
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: The first one was Travis Kelsey. Terrible because Travis Kelcey

1009
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: was voted not only top twenty but top ten. In fact,

1010
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: he was top eight eight right, he was eighth coming

1011
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: off of a season that was his worst statistically since

1012
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Like that, to me, I have a problem

1013
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: with that. He didn't break a thousand yards this past year,

1014
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: played in fifteen games. If he plays in all seventeen,

1015
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: then he does break one thousand yards, but he didn't, right,

1016
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: And to have him be eighth seems to me a

1017
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: bit of a bit of an overreach. Like if we're

1018
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: going to underreach and not allow Aaron Donald in because

1019
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: he's retired, that's crazy. But I'm curious to see where

1020
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald would have been if he would have been

1021
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: allowed Travis kelce If you would have put Travis Kelcey

1022
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: in the top thirty, then I'm fine with it to

1023
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: talk about the intangibles, but to say that there were

1024
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: only seven better players than him in the NFL last year,

1025
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: I just think is off pretty bad. Yes, pretty pretty bad. Yeah,

1026
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: the worst of the worst actually happened in the ninety

1027
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: one through one hundred, revealing Aaron Rodgers was ninety second.

1028
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: He took four snaps all of last season. And yet

1029
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: when people are filling out their ballots are putting Aaron

1030
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Rodgers on this list. And I'm sorry. If you're not

1031
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: going to include Aaron Donald because he retired, then you

1032
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: shouldn't put a guy who played only four snaps. And

1033
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: that again is now this is a height machine to

1034
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: enter the NFL season, and that's what this is all about.

1035
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you feel if you're Terry McLaurin,

1036
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: who had to deal with a bunch of quarterbacking, you know,

1037
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: a different bunch of different quarterbacks now practice, yes, here, there,

1038
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: and everywhere. And he comes in ninety seventh and Aaron

1039
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers took ran a flag out onto the field, Hey

1040
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: don't you do it? And then took four snaps and

1041
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: was ninety two. Trevor Lawrence. For as bad as it was,

1042
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was actually ranked behind Aaron Rodgers. So people

1043
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: would rather have four snaps of Aaron Rodgers not doing anything,

1044
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: and would rather have that than have Trevor Lawrence, who

1045
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: I know didn't have the greatest season, he battled his

1046
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: own injuries. But there's no way that Aaron Rodgers should

1047
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: even smell this list. And he was ninety second to

1048
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1049
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: Dan that flag run out and those four snaps were glorious.

1050
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: Though it's Aaron Rodgers man, he is definitely one of

1051
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: the top one hundred players going into any year, so

1052
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: I can see that. But again, it just really shows

1053
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 3: that when this voting's going on. Most of these guys

1054
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 3: aren't even really paying attention. Yes, I've been in the room,

1055
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 3: so I know, like a lot of times we get

1056
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: this stuff and we're voting on certain things and it's

1057
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: just I'm trying to get home and so whatever.

1058
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 2: I see, how kind of check fill it out? Jack

1059
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: checked Rogers? Is that's a name, right, So he's like, oh, yeah,

1060
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: of course, yes, yeah. Yeah. So they they got me

1061
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: to bite. They suckered me in. Eight of the top

1062
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: ten were from the AFC, which was surprising. Maybe it

1063
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't be too surprising, but I was just surprised that

1064
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: it was lopsided in that way. The two NFC representatives

1065
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: were both from the forty nine ers Trent Williams and

1066
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. But Max Crosby was tenth. Travis kell You know,

1067
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: I say that Travis Kelsey was ninth, hero I was

1068
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: saying he was eight. He was ninth. That's my that's

1069
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: my fault on that Travis Kelsey was ninth. TJ Watt

1070
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: was eight, Trent Williams seven, Chris Jones six, and then

1071
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: your top five consistent of Miles Garrett, Patrick Mahomes, Christian McCaffrey,

1072
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and then Tyreek Hill, even Travis Kelsey being ninth.

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: This is absurd. It's a lot these carrier roads. I'm

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. We can forget about they should just I

1075
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: know that they need programming. I know that they need

1076
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: something to get you hype and get your talking. And

1077
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: so I took the bait, but not as mad as

1078
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: some people are about Tyreek Hill as I am about

1079
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers having four snaps and somehow being on this

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00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: ranking hit carry out back carry twenty five roads. You

1081
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Are you

1082
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: ready for the categories for easy As one, two three

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00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: four coming up next? The categories are Olympics in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, Olympics in the NFL. Your lifelines

1085
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: of Chris Burfett, Bo Benson and Isaac Lohankron. There will

1086
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: be no Steve Hartman aided answers coming up Steve somewhere

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00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: whereas it. Steve will be sequestered as he's getting ready

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Speaker 2: for his show easy As one, two three four next

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Speaker 2: year on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: He's the all pro carry rhoads. Just a few more

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00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: weeks until the NFL season gets underway. The clock is ticking.

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00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: We are almost exactly a month away from the first

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00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: NFL game September fifth. Today is August fourth. We've had

1094
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game. I have heard a lot

1095
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: of people try to say, guess what last you know,

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00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: take whatever day without football until December, blow of January,

1097
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: whatever the case is. I'll point this out. College football

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00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: does have a week zero carry. Yes, that is on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: August twenty fourth, and then Week one begins on Labor

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00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Day weekend. But with the NFL's new schedule, there was

1101
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: a bigger break in the preseason with only the three games,

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00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: so you actually have a two week break before the

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Speaker 2: game start. So there's no NFL games that last week

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Speaker 2: of August, but there will be college to wet your appetite.

1105
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: So overall football, yes, But for the people who said

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00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: last Thursday without NFL football until February a couple of

1107
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago, well you're not gonna have any NFL football

1108
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: in August twenty ninth. It's not gonna be there for you. However,

1109
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: we'll have some college football because that will end up

1110
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Speaker 2: being the first week of the NFL season. All right,

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: it is that time, Oh Carrie rhads, you're over under

1112
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: today and easy as one, two, three four, seven and

1113
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: a half will make it easy? Yes, seven and a half.

1114
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 2: I think there are a couple of questions that could

1115
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: be there for you, but some are some are a

1116
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: little out of the out of the realm. Carrie has

1117
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get ten points that would be a

1118
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: perfect score when I give him a variety of topics

1119
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: and he just has to give me some of the

1120
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 2: correct answers, not all of them. I got a perfect

1121
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: score is ten. The over under seven and a half,

1122
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: so you can bet on the over under. You can

1123
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: play along if you're listening, driving along, traveling, maybe getting

1124
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: your last vacation before school begins. Feel free to play

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Speaker 2: along here uneasy as one, two three four. You have

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Speaker 2: three lifelines, Isaac lowing Kron at the news desk, Bo Bent,

1127
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: and our executive producer technical producer Chris Purfett. Are you

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00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: ready to play easy as one, two three four, Yes,

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00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: let's do it. Name one of two leading scorers for

1130
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: Team USA and men's basketball through the first three games

1131
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: of these Paris games. One of two. One of two

1132
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: leading scoreres you go Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards and Kevin Durant. Okay,

1133
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: oh geez, look at this peacocky already show me Anthony Edwards.

1134
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: I only needed one. I only needed one. Sixteen point

1135
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: seven points per game. Kevin Durant is second with sixteen

1136
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: points per game so far, so you are correct, But

1137
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: just one point for Kerry Rhodes on that one does

1138
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: not need a lifeline. Maybe it will hear name two

1139
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: of three countries that have won a gold medal in

1140
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: men's golf at the Olympic Games. Two countries. Yeah, so

1141
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: there have been three different countries that have won a

1142
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: gold medal in men's golf at the Olympic Games.

1143
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: So us give me two of them go to the US. Okay,

1144
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 9: and we will go. I don't want to use my

1145
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 9: lifeline because I think I know this. But if I

1146
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 9: think I know this and I'm having a doubt, I'm

1147
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 9: going to.

1148
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: Go to christ for this one.

1149
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: For the other other country here, I might let you

1150
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: down on Oh, it's gotta be great Britain, right, I

1151
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: was thinking that it's got to be great Britain.

1152
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. But Team GB is that where

1153
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: you want to go Ilo.

1154
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 7: Ilo is not here right now, but if you leave

1155
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 7: a message after the bb'll get back to you with

1156
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 7: the correct answer.

1157
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: Two of the three countries that have won a gold

1158
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: medal in men's golf at the Olympic Games in the

1159
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: history of the sport. We'll go United States and we'll

1160
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: go Great Britain. All right, show me the United States, yes,

1161
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler. Today, Xander Shoffley won in the Tokyo Games.

1162
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: So there's those are the two. Show me Great Britain.

1163
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: Justin Rose won the gold in twenty six teen in Rial,

1164
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: the first year that it returned to the Games. Because

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00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh four, Canada's George Leone won gold.

1166
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Speaker 4: I don't know that not to throw a wrench in

1167
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: your in your thing. I'm looking at Wikipedia right now

1168
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 4: just to check this, and there's a gold to South

1169
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: Korea in golf as well, in men's golf. Oh it's

1170
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 4: probably not men's golf then okay, yeah, no way.

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00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 2: So in men's golf. So men's golf, yes, the men's

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Speaker 2: part nineteen oh four, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty twenty one,

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: if you will, and then out twenty twenty four is

1174
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: when golf was in the Olympic program. I gotta trust myself.

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00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: I knew that, so it was okay. It's okay to

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Speaker 2: get the verification. So although I may take a point

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Speaker 2: away because he about Wikipedia, look there, I ailed this

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: on my own, Christopera. Trust me, I've done it plenty

1179
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: of times. My mistake, I know that's okay. I made

1180
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: a mistake a couple of weeks ago, and it bothered

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00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: me until Thursday. I know.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'm That's why I'm like checking homework now,

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Speaker 4: just to all right.

1184
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: I think this one is up bo Benson's alley. But

1185
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: we'll see named three or four NFL teams who have

1186
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: unveiled a new white alternate helmet to wear in twenty

1187
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Speaker 2: twenty four, a white one out. If you would have

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Speaker 2: said black out of went straight Buffalo, Okay, wait, white

1189
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: alternate helmet in twenty twenty four white.

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Speaker 3: The Jets is one. Um, go ahead, both help me

1191
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 3: out both. I know the Jets is one.

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 5: Vikings and Packers.

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Speaker 2: Vikings Packers, do you agree with the Jets one as well?

1194
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: Because I saw it.

1195
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 5: I know the Jets are wearing their helmet that you wore.

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 5: I believe and I don't know if that fits the

1197
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 5: criteria for white Dan's looking for. I think the Browns

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Speaker 5: are going to be wearing an all white helmet at

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Speaker 5: some point again, but I don't know if that count

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Speaker 5: as a debut, right, But I know the Vikings and

1201
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 5: the Packers both are wearing white helmet.

1202
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Speaker 3: Let's go Vikings Packers Jets because I saw a jet

1203
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: when i'm I'm I guessed, I think, so.

1204
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Speaker 2: Okay, show me the Minnesota Vikings. Yes, they unveil theirs

1205
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 2: throughout the summer. Show me the Green Bay Packers. Yes,

1206
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: they unveiled theirs this week. They just needed to add

1207
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: a gold stripe down the middle. And is it the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets? Wow?

1209
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Speaker 5: Car team?

1210
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: No, I saw it might not be new though.

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Speaker 5: You know they're they're wearing the helmet you wore this year.

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Speaker 2: Y right, They're going back to it? Yeah, but they

1213
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Speaker 2: they've it's a it's a new helmet. Where So Dallas

1214
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: obviously wore their whites white helmet on Thanksgiving will probably

1215
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Speaker 2: wear that again this year. The Chargers have had their

1216
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Speaker 2: white helmet prior the two new white ones. Jacksonville is

1217
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Speaker 2: wearing a white helmet, and the Broncos had a white helmet,

1218
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: but they have changed the logo on it. Yes, so

1219
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: it is the Instead of the old D on the helmet,

1220
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: it is now the current horse Hill Horse. The Broncos

1221
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Speaker 2: will wear their throwbacks with the old John Elway blue

1222
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: if you will, with the D on the helmet this year,

1223
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: but the white helmet with the D and the Bronco

1224
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: are not going to be there for the Bronce.

1225
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: Sorry carry I was. I was going to say Broncos too.

1226
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: I had to throw my my choice in there. Well

1227
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Speaker 2: the Jets. The Jets as well will have their new

1228
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: green ones and then they will wear a black one

1229
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: as well this season with that jetspont from the nineteen eighties.

1230
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Speaker 3: Yeah that black You saw the black Buffalo Bills one

1231
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: though you saw?

1232
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you like that one? I hated that. I

1233
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: could not stand it. But they're not gonna wear that's

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01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: just it's just a one off or this practice. Yes,

1235
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Speaker 2: I do think that the Bills should do a nod

1236
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Speaker 2: to the nineteen nineties and wear a red helmet. Jim Kelly, Thurmantine,

1237
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: Spruce Smith days where that that would be good. But

1238
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: even when the Bills were red, I always wanted them

1239
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: to go back to the white helmet. So I'm actually

1240
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: glad that they're they're.

1241
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: With the this this control here is unified in our

1242
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 4: opinion of throwback is just should be normal in a

1243
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: lot of cases too. Yeah, like just buel designs are

1244
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: just so much better the farther we get away from them.

1245
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 2: Everybody likes it. Everybody loves it. Again, if you had

1246
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, you know they're gonna wear their creamsickle, so

1247
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: that would have been you know, another Bengals as popular

1248
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: Titans were their oilers ones last year.

1249
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Speaker 4: Is so good, it is, but the Titans aren't allowed

1250
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: to wear those. I'm sorry it should not be allowed

1251
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: to wear those. That is that is an affront to God.

1252
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: Can you imagine being a.

1253
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 5: Broncos fan in the new uniforms they unveiled this year,

1254
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 5: and then a week later they unveiled the throwbacks. They

1255
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: just look instantly.

1256
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, final question, Kerry, You've got one

1257
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: wrong so far. That's okay, a score of five. You

1258
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: get these four. You hit the over with ease with

1259
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: nine points. By the way, all of these questions are

1260
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: timely Golf today, USA Basketball and the Packers unveiling their

1261
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: white helmet this week. This is also timely. Four of

1262
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: the five NFL players who have received a ninety nine

1263
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: rating in Madden twenty five this year we have so

1264
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: this they unveil the ratings this week. There are five

1265
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: players who have a ninety nine rating in Madden twenty five.

1266
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 2: Name four of them. We got Mahomes, We have McCaffrey, Mahomes, McCaffrey.

1267
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: Thinking of the best of the best.

1268
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: Would Trent Williams, Trent Williams be there, Maholme, McCaffrey, But

1269
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: if Tyreek Hill be there, I go Tyreek Keele.

1270
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: One more.

1271
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: I got three, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go

1272
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: to bowl for the fourth one here where you got both?

1273
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 5: This to me is the classic. There's something deeper here.

1274
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 5: With Dan Byer asking this question of you, I believe

1275
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: trav As Kelsey or Trent Williams.

1276
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: Would be your I said Williams too, But I'm.

1277
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey is in the ninety nine club this year.

1278
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: He's in the ninety nine club, is your god?

1279
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 5: I am ninety nine percent sure that he's in the

1280
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent club. Yeah, the ninety nine club.

1281
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: Dan, those are your final answers. You got my home CMC,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey and Trent Williams. You good with that? Is

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Speaker 2: not Tyreek Hill?

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Speaker 3: Is that I'm gonna go hel So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: go Mahomes, McCaffery, heel and Kelsey Dan all right, show

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Speaker 3: me Patrick Mahomes there he has perfect number ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Show me Christian McCaffrey ninety nine as well. I feel

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01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: like I'm Toto. That's a dated reference. They had a

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Speaker 2: song called ninety nine and back of the day. Show

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Speaker 2: me Tyreek Hill, I'm good there he is, And show

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: me Travis Kelcey there is four of the time, and

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01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: the other was Trent Williams. I was on it today.

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I was on it today. I don't know if

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: you guys are football fans are gamers, but either way,

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: you got it correct. That's some good teamwork. All right,

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Speaker 2: he's carry Roads. I'm Dan Bayer. Let's go to the

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Speaker 2: news deck news desk, Isaac Lohenkron, He's got the latest.

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: Doesn't have the answer that carry was looking for golf, but.

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Speaker 5: Just wanted to make him sweat a little.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm glad you didn't go to me for

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01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 7: the last one, because I was gonna say Justin Tucker,

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 7: who should be a ninety nine, but it just doesn't

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01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 7: get the respect. Scottie Scheffler getting a ton of respect

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Speaker 7: today because he is officially an Olympic gold medalist. He

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01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 7: won the men's golf competition with a nine hunder sixty

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 7: two in the final round to finish with nineteen under

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01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 7: par overall, one shot out of Tommy Fleetwood, who won silver,

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Speaker 7: two ahead of Hideki Matsuyama, who won the bronze. In

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Speaker 7: swimming a short time ago, American Bobby Fink won the

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Speaker 7: gold medal in the men's fifteen hundred freestyle, setting a

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Speaker 7: world record in the process. Says Team USA won the

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Speaker 7: silver medal in the men's four by one hundred medley relay.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 7: China took the gold medal by a margin of fifty

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Speaker 7: five hundredths of a second. The US women's basketball team

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Speaker 7: defeated Germany eighty seven to sixty eight today to finish

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 7: group play.

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Speaker 2: With a three to zero record.

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Speaker 7: American Kristin Faulkner won the gold medal in the women's

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Speaker 7: cycling road race. The US women's volleyball team swept France

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 7: three sets to none to finish group play at two

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 7: to one at advance to the quarterfinals. Novak Djokovic won

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 7: the gold medal in men's tennis with a seven six,

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 7: seven to six victory over Carlos Acaraz. Djokovic's first career

1324
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 7: gold medal finally won Major League Baseball game underway right

1325
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 7: now in Cincinnati. The Reds and San Francisco Giants tied

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Speaker 7: at two in the bottom of the fifth and carry.

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Speaker 2: extra five percent off hit carry up at Carrie twenty

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Speaker 2: five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

1337
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: Quite a string of birthdays President Obama's birthday today, Yesterday

1338
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: Tom Brady turned forty seven years old, and on Friday,

1339
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: when Carrie Rhoades had a birthday right, Yes, a round

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Speaker 2: of applause. Rightes, belated birthday? Did I miss? Do any

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: of you guys have a.

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Speaker 8: Birthday that I'm completely overlooking that I apologized for something

1343
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 8: told now, did you tell me last week it was

1344
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 8: your birthday on Friday?

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01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: I don't think so, did I? I don't think so either.

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: Something was telling birthday. Something was telling me last night that, gosh,

1347
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: I gotta look up Carrie's birthday. I gotta look up

1348
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: Carrie's birthday. And then when I saw August second, I

1349
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: was like, something was telling me, I have to look

1350
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: up Carrie's birthday. You're not a big birthday guy anymore, though, huh.

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: No, man, those those you know every day is the celebration.

1352
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: Got to be grateful every day. I obviously you know,

1353
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 3: as you get older, I think they think about birthdays

1354
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: that really, I mean the most says the people that

1355
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: are close to you, that are around that support you.

1356
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's really about. Where in the

1357
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: past it was about having as much fun as you

1358
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: can whatever that, whatever that means, but now it's about

1359
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 3: being around your loved ones.

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's what I had. Beautiful, a well thought

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Speaker 2: out piece. I think a birthday is all about you,

1362
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: like it is your one day. It's three hundred and

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01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: sixty four days of everything else, but that one day. Yeah,

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01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: it is all about you. You know how I talk

1365
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: about when I come back from work and I've been

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: out and I want people to, oh, I know, yeah,

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: say thank goodness you're back. When we're going out to

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01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: eat on my birthday and someone else is also celebrating

1369
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: a birthday in the restaurant, I am completely annoyed, Like, no,

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: this is my day. Oh man, no one else can

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: share my birthday. This is my day. That's it. You

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Speaker 2: know what.

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: I used to have that, Dan, I used to have it,

1374
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: but now it's just like it's a celebration.

1375
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: Let's celebrate the life of everybody here.

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 3: Come on, Dan, hop on, boys. It can't be all

1377
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 3: about us all the time.

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01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: That's the problem is it's never about us, but that

1379
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: one day, that one day, it is all about you.

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Is it all about

1381
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 2: dak in Dallas? And why Bill Belichick maybe taking the

1382
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: route of Alex Rodriguez. He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Bayer.

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: We're live forth Tirec dot Com Studios. That's next here

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Live forth Tirerach

1385
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Bayer putting

1386
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: a bow on this. Steve Hartman's ready to go next.

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: Thanks is of Glowing cron stuck around a little while

1388
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: longer today. Bill Benson's our executive producer. Chris Purfett, a

1389
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: technical producerfet dominating the updates today at the news desk.

1390
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: A little earlier with Andy Furman here on Fox Sports.

1391
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: Wow nic Yes, nice feel sitting in that chair, Chris Prefett.

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: It felt different, It felt great. What felt very familiar

1393
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 4: was tormenting Andy Furman for three hours. I was able

1394
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: to get on his his case quite a bit. So

1395
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: it felt like just like old times. That helped me

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: in there I was, I was nervous. I thank you

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 4: Dan very much. The opportunity to do the updates. Having

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01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 4: Andy there to tournament definitely helped the process along too.

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Speaker 2: That's that's good stuff, you guys, always going at it

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01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: in the morning and just in a different chair this time.

1401
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 2: We talked about to a tongue of Iloa hyreek Hill.

1402
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: We talked about Eli Manning. We mentioned it's Tom Brady's birthday.

1403
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: We've talked about a lot of big names in the

1404
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 2: National Football League, two big names that we have not

1405
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: touched on today. I almost feel like it's we were

1406
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: obligated to talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Here's my thought

1407
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys right now. And the reason I bring

1408
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: this up is because I almost feel like I'm moving

1409
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: with the wind a little on Dallas and Dak's situation.

1410
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: The more I think about it. I just and I

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: said this when I was with Bernie Fratto last night

1412
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: and during Bernie Show, when I was where Chris was

1413
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: sitting at the news desk, although I was at my

1414
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: home studio. The point is is, with Dak Prescott's contract situation,

1415
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: it's not looming over this team, but we know that

1416
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: he's gonna make it or break it year. What breaks it? Like?

1417
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: What does Dak have to do wrong for Dallas to

1418
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: say we're not going to bring you back? And the

1419
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: reason I phrase it in that way again goes back

1420
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: to the original time when Dak got his first extension,

1421
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: when he broke his leg, Like that was the fear of, Hey,

1422
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: I don't want to go into my contract year with

1423
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: a broken leg, and well, Guess what. He goes into

1424
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: his contract year the broken leg and Dallas still paid

1425
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: him the money. So what needs to go wrong? We've

1426
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: talked about what can go right. Dallas goes to a

1427
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Then Dallas overpays for Dak and guess what.

1428
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is fine with that because he had this success.

1429
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: But what is it exactly that is going to make

1430
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: you move off of Dak Prescott to say that we

1431
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: need something different? And I just think that the bar

1432
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: is way too low for them to make that decision.

1433
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: Where we had Mark Dominic, former NFLGM on the Doug

1434
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show earlier this week and I think it was

1435
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: on Friday, where he says, I think everybody expects Dak

1436
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: to be in Dallas. Well, then why not give him

1437
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: the deal now so you're not having to pay more

1438
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: next offseason. That's the point where I just I'm like

1439
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: just try. I'm scratching my head on why Dallas hasn't

1440
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: gotten this done, why it won't get done, because at

1441
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: some point you're either going to have to make the

1442
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: decision to move on from him or not move on

1443
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: from him. And to make the decision to not move

1444
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: on from him. He would just have to have an

1445
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: absolute atrocious season for you to say goodbye, no thank you,

1446
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: And so that's where that's where I am right now

1447
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: in this it's just don't I don't see a scenario

1448
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: where Dak leaves, which makes me think that the Cowboys

1449
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: played this all wrong. Yeah, they probably played it wrong,

1450
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: but they're too it's too late. Now.

1451
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: We're at a position now where's you just have to

1452
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: live with the consequences of your actions, and so you know,

1453
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: we're going to play it out and see what happens.

1454
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 3: But there is a world where Dak plays really bad.

1455
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 3: We've seen that before. We've also seen a world where

1456
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: he played really well and last year, right, so we

1457
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: have both both tiers, get we get to choose from

1458
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: both tiers. We've seen both, and we know that even

1459
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: with that being said, even after the bad year, he

1460
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: was able to bounce back and have a really great gear,

1461
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 3: so we know that's he's capable of that as well.

1462
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 3: For me, the whole situation with Dak is I think

1463
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: the Cowboys have heard so much of the negative talk

1464
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: or the negative things surrounding what he's done in the

1465
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: postseason or getting this team over the top over the hump,

1466
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 3: you know, so have you? Those things are real things

1467
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: for them in existing their.

1468
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: World right now.

1469
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: There are not many other options out there that would

1470
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 3: be better than Dak Prescott, So that kind of disputes

1471
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: all of that. Like you said, to support your your argument,

1472
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: give him give him the money now, because if you're

1473
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: not going to give it to him now, you're going

1474
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: to have to give it to him later. So it's

1475
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 3: it makes me scratch my hair when I talk about

1476
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 3: it as well, and.

1477
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: Likely pay more later because I just don't think that

1478
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: he's going to be in a position and he's going

1479
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 2: to have the leverage to not give them a discount.

1480
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: So I just it's I just I don't know necessarily

1481
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys are doing, and I think Dallas is

1482
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: they're a question mark when it comes to the playoffs

1483
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: when you're looking at how the NFC shapes out. I

1484
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: think for a while you felt like there were two

1485
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: or three teams in Dallas being one of those teams

1486
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: where you're like, Okay, they're going to make the playoffs.

1487
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as as sure as sure of

1488
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: a thing this year as it is in other years.

1489
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: But still, if you go and win. If you go

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01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: nine and eight dak throws for forty five forty eight

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: hundred yards, how do you say no to that? And

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: that's where I scratch my head. Now, the other name

1493
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: that we haven't mentioned is Bill Belichick. Did you hear

1494
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick has some new work? Yeah, I've heard of him.

1495
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: He's got more work. So this is what Bill Belichick

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: has done this offseason. So he has already signed a

1497
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: deal with Inside the NFL to be on that show

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01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: with Ryan Clark and Ocho Cinco. He's going to be

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01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 2: appearing on the Manning Cast for each of their episodes

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: on ESPN or ESPN two. So who's going to appear

1501
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: with those guys Eli and Peyton? And then he's now

1502
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: picked up another segment that's going to air on YouTube

1503
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: as he's signed on with Underdog Fantasy where he's going

1504
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: to be breaking down all of these segments and the athletics.

1505
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: Diane Orsini was actually on The Herd Thursday and said

1506
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick is kind of going through a pr makeover.

1507
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 2: Do you think that that is do you think that's

1508
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: what this is all about? Or do you think that

1509
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is maybe even trying to navigate a career

1510
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 2: in media. Is he just trying to keep busy until

1511
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: he gets back into the game next season. I thought

1512
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: it was interesting that she said that they're trying to

1513
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: get some of the stench off of Bill Belichick by

1514
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: putting him in all of these places and make him

1515
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: coming out fresh. I looked at it from the way

1516
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: of maybe media is where Bill Belichick actually wants to stay,

1517
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: like these guys leave the game. And I know it's

1518
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: a different situation than what Bill Cower faced, But when

1519
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: Bill Kauer retired from the Steelers, there were years and

1520
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: years or rumors of him maybe going to Carolina or

1521
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: going to all these different places. Yeah, and he never

1522
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: left the CBS, NFL Today desk. He's just always been there.

1523
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that could be the case with

1524
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, with all these irons of the fire and media,

1525
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: maybe he just ends up taking a liking to this

1526
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: and forgoes coaching.

1527
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: I think that's probably multiple reasons the PR makeover wouldn't

1528
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: make sense because a lot of people don't know Belichick,

1529
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't give them that ability to know him.

1530
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1531
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 3: But if you do know him, we like myself he

1532
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: does have a personalty. He is somebody that can obviously

1533
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: talk football with the best of them, but there's a likeness,

1534
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: there's a sense of joy in him that he could

1535
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 3: unveil and show people this year and that could could

1536
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: be the makeover knees because now we think from watching

1537
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 3: him he doesn't have a good relationship relationship with the

1538
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: current players, so that's probably what it would be.

1539
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 2: When Mike McCarthy was out of football, he was known

1540
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: in the season that he was prior to being the

1541
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: name the Dallas Cowboys head coach. He basically put a

1542
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: staff together of guys that he wanted a coaching staff,

1543
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: and they would break down the film each week because

1544
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: he wanted to get back into coaching and these were

1545
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: going to be the guys that also, by the way,

1546
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: didn't have jobs, that they were going to be his

1547
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: guys when he came in. Not that Bill Belichick would

1548
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: need that. I just find it amazing that he couldn't

1549
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: just take his Super Bowl rings and show them and say,

1550
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 2: all right, this is what you get with me. But

1551
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: both with the Patriots and even with the New York Giants,

1552
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: as he would point out that he got as a

1553
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, like that would be enough. I never thought

1554
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick would need to do a PR car wash. Yeah,

1555
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: but that's what Diana Rossini was was insinuating that they

1556
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: need to put a they need to put a fresh

1557
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: scent on Bill Belichick. Yeah.

1558
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: I remember when when he was getting fired. I remember

1559
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 3: being on air on the record saying he wouldn't get

1560
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 3: hired in the cycle.

1561
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: I said that, and I could tell that.

1562
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 3: Just from the energy that was coming from the people

1563
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: around him, there was no real support in what he

1564
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: was trying to do and come back. So I had

1565
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 3: that feeling, and so it makes sense.

1566
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm wrong. I'll say it in

1567
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 2: every show that we do until the end of the

1568
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: regular season. I think he's going to be the next

1569
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Giants head coach. The Giants had just and it's I

1570
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: just I think he wants to be the Giants head coach.

1571
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 2: I just have always felt like that. I felt that

1572
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: he's loved his time with the Giants, He's revered it.

1573
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 2: He hates the Jets. What better way he could just

1574
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: be across town. I know we pointed the Cowboys and

1575
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: say bye bye Mike McCarthy, but I'm gonna stick with

1576
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: the giants. That would be fun. That would be a

1577
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Spend fun with you. Happy belated birthday.

1578
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer. Spend Fox Sports Sunday

1579
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Talk to you next week.

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01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah,