1
00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,840
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

2
00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

3
00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,520
Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

4
00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,279
Speaker 1: We are here at Saint Pencent College of Steelers. I

5
00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,159
Speaker 1: got their practice in earlier this morning, and it was

6
00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 1: a good thing that they did move that practice too

7
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,920
Speaker 1: this morning because well, right now it's raining here in St.

8
00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Princent in Latrobe. Um, no big surprise there. It's rained

9
00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,240
Speaker 1: pretty much every day now for the last oh, I

10
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know, sometime. Now it seems like every day now

11
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,320
Speaker 1: is groundhog Day quite literally, as you know, you get

12
00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,599
Speaker 1: up in it rains and and then the sun comes out,

13
00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,000
Speaker 1: and then it rains some more, and then the sun

14
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440
Speaker 1: comes out and no lightning today, which is a good thing.

15
00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's certainly a better situation than it has been.

16
00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,720
Speaker 1: So I gotta come clean. I mean, I haven't seen

17
00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,360
Speaker 1: a practice since Thursday. You know, we are on the

18
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,160
Speaker 1: air practice as usual Thursday. Friday was Friday Night Lights,

19
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,560
Speaker 1: so we did our show, but there wasn't a practice

20
00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,759
Speaker 1: going on. Then I drove home and Friday Night Lights

21
00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,000
Speaker 1: never really turned into what was expected. Saturday they moved

22
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,039
Speaker 1: practice to the south side and then Sundays the day

23
00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,120
Speaker 1: off yesterday was a rain day to getting changed and

24
00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,479
Speaker 1: then this morning got changed. So every day has been

25
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360
Speaker 1: and they've been calling an audible on us. They have

26
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,039
Speaker 1: audible quite a bit. There were several different things that

27
00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,720
Speaker 1: they were looking at UM yesterday because they knew it

28
00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,200
Speaker 1: was going to rain today. Uh, you know, they talked

29
00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,399
Speaker 1: about going back down to Pittsburgh. They talked about going

30
00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,240
Speaker 1: over to throw Memorial Stadium, they talked about going to

31
00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,640
Speaker 1: the high schools. There are all kinds of things on

32
00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,639
Speaker 1: the table. The one I didn't hear was practicing this morning.

33
00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know when that was decided, but that

34
00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,320
Speaker 1: that was decided this morning. So they did get it

35
00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760
Speaker 1: practice in today. I'm assuming that's going to be their

36
00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,280
Speaker 1: last padded practice here for a while until they get

37
00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,160
Speaker 1: through these this next preseason games. So another physical just

38
00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers here at St. Vincent College. UM

39
00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,320
Speaker 1: starting to see really and it started last week around

40
00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,960
Speaker 1: this time, So it's been about a week now where

41
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,040
Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinsky has looked much more comfortable that That's what

42
00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I kind of wanted to

43
00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,440
Speaker 1: act as our listeners and you know, pick your brain

44
00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,960
Speaker 1: and exactly, you know, like when I had left you

45
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,800
Speaker 1: and I had you know, kind of left things at Boy,

46
00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,079
Speaker 1: these last two practices, at that point, Trabinsky is really

47
00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,400
Speaker 1: starting to turn the corner. He's starting to look comfortable.

48
00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,360
Speaker 1: Pickett looks a little bit better. Um, a lot of

49
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,600
Speaker 1: the stars on both sides of the ball. We're still out.

50
00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of progress by the offense.

51
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,359
Speaker 1: The old line actually had some holes they were creating too.

52
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,079
Speaker 1: Not a lot of opportunities to view the old line.

53
00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,399
Speaker 1: But Trabinsky, you know, last I saw it seemed very

54
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,320
Speaker 1: promising and from what I've been told, that's keeping up. Yeah,

55
00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,440
Speaker 1: that has continued. He he had a a stick through

56
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,959
Speaker 1: today to George Pickens on a post. They were doing

57
00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,519
Speaker 1: red zone, first player red zone and so it was

58
00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,680
Speaker 1: about a twenty yard touchdown pass that he just stuck

59
00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,160
Speaker 1: right on him. Um, you know, there was nobody that

60
00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 1: was gonna catch a box up for George pet big

61
00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320
Speaker 1: time throw. Yeah, it looks looked like a young Ben

62
00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,160
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger throw. There was They did uh the the goal

63
00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,800
Speaker 1: line yesterday or seven shots to open and they also

64
00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480
Speaker 1: did goal line yesterday to close practice. It was really

65
00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,200
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff. Um, and he looked at

66
00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,680
Speaker 1: he threw touchdown passes on his first two attempts and

67
00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,600
Speaker 1: then they tried to run the ball and I'm trying,

68
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 1: let me think here how that went. So he threw

69
00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,880
Speaker 1: one through a play action passed. That was a nice throw. Um.

70
00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,240
Speaker 1: The one that was incomplete was was he he threw

71
00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,120
Speaker 1: one to Deonte that he completed in the front corner

72
00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,280
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Um, have one to Anthony McFarland

73
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,680
Speaker 1: as well, So that's all on a McFarland was in

74
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,240
Speaker 1: the slot and he just immediately ran an out and

75
00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,720
Speaker 1: it's just uncoverable for Yeah. Right, we've seen a lot

76
00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,640
Speaker 1: of that McFarland here. Yeah, some advanced route. Yeah, that

77
00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,280
Speaker 1: was that was that was easy pickings. Uh. Then he

78
00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,400
Speaker 1: hit Connor Hayward in the front corner of the end

79
00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560
Speaker 1: zone and Hayward got his feet in but he couldn't

80
00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,480
Speaker 1: he could double caught the football and Garrett, yeah good good,

81
00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,080
Speaker 1: Thirst put it right on him. Garrick Eamon, who was

82
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,839
Speaker 1: the uh watching the the goal line there. Their strength

83
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,440
Speaker 1: and conditioning coach did not give him the touchdown on

84
00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,839
Speaker 1: that he said he double caught it and didn't control

85
00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 1: it to the grounds, but just put it right on

86
00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,080
Speaker 1: him where only Hayward was gonna catch it. Um. You know,

87
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,279
Speaker 1: he's looked much better. Also had one yesterday in in

88
00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,520
Speaker 1: in the goal line. Um, just took it on a

89
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,640
Speaker 1: keeper and just right around the end and he went

90
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,640
Speaker 1: in untouched like the designed Yeah, it was a design

91
00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,279
Speaker 1: rollout to his left. Everything was covered. He just took

92
00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,680
Speaker 1: off and ran and probably had if I was there. Ow.

93
00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,800
Speaker 1: And that's the that's that thing, that's that extra element

94
00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,800
Speaker 1: that he gives you that no doubt. Yeah. I mean

95
00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,720
Speaker 1: he can break a tackle, he can run away from

96
00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,720
Speaker 1: some people to just as a pure runner. Yeah, he's

97
00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,720
Speaker 1: extremely athletic. Uh. And that's that's showed up here over

98
00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,080
Speaker 1: the last week in on some of the throws that

99
00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,080
Speaker 1: he's made. I've been I think much more play. I

100
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440
Speaker 1: think I think people would be pleasantly surprised, put it

101
00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,039
Speaker 1: that way, when they see him in a game, because

102
00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,880
Speaker 1: he's not you know, when you watch the Chicago tape

103
00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,440
Speaker 1: of him early on, um, when he was on the

104
00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,080
Speaker 1: run and things of that nature. Sometimes the throws will

105
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,240
Speaker 1: be a little offline or a lot of times they

106
00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,440
Speaker 1: were high. He seems to have gotten a much better

107
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400
Speaker 1: feel for getting his shoulders around and getting things set

108
00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,720
Speaker 1: when he's throwing on the run, and that shows up

109
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,720
Speaker 1: time and again. That showed up since he's been here.

110
00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,680
Speaker 1: To me, you know a lot of designed roll out

111
00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,440
Speaker 1: stuff left or right, and you're right, his good feet

112
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,279
Speaker 1: with a good footwork gets his shoulders, you know, parallel

113
00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,839
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage lets that thing out easily. You know,

114
00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't fight it. Um, So I have a lot

115
00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,040
Speaker 1: more questions for you. But um that's a sidetrack because

116
00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,680
Speaker 1: as we were chatting there, and I think I've brought

117
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,120
Speaker 1: this up before, but it sure seems to me writing

118
00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,200
Speaker 1: on the wall here is these backs, including Connor Hayward

119
00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,039
Speaker 1: and including Nasea who we haven't seen much, but they're

120
00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,919
Speaker 1: gonna be really involved in the passing game, you know,

121
00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,440
Speaker 1: like the routes that McFarland's running. And I just think

122
00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,000
Speaker 1: that there's an advanced level to the running backs in

123
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360
Speaker 1: terms of route running in this this UH training camp.

124
00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,640
Speaker 1: That really does seem to be the case. And you know,

125
00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440
Speaker 1: you see a lot of that and I actually talked

126
00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,359
Speaker 1: to Alfredo Roberts, the UH they're tight end coach today

127
00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,880
Speaker 1: and we talked about the Hayward and like it seems

128
00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,800
Speaker 1: like you guys really have a plan on some different

129
00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,760
Speaker 1: usages for him. He's like, oh yeah, I mean everything

130
00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,520
Speaker 1: we've thrown at him, he's done. He's got that running

131
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 1: back background. Yeah. Um, you know, so he's he's comfortable

132
00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760
Speaker 1: doing some of those things. But then you know, we

133
00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 1: keep putting more in his plate as a as a

134
00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, a move tight end, and you know he

135
00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,119
Speaker 1: just he just runs those routes differently than the other guys,

136
00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 1: he know, right right, So yeah, they're running like a back. Yeah.

137
00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,960
Speaker 1: I kind of mean that in a good way, in

138
00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,440
Speaker 1: a bad way. I mean like he's just a little

139
00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,599
Speaker 1: bit different body type of style play, um, you know,

140
00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,080
Speaker 1: lower to the ground, and he doesn't seem like a

141
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000
Speaker 1: typical six or seventh round pick. Where I was gonna

142
00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,920
Speaker 1: to camp take a fly around to what happens. Like

143
00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,720
Speaker 1: I think it was draft him and he could do

144
00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,600
Speaker 1: all these things, and let's have him do all these

145
00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,560
Speaker 1: things from the beginning, right. Yeah, So you know I

146
00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,440
Speaker 1: asked about him a little a little fun thunder um,

147
00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,320
Speaker 1: but I did ask about him, you know as a

148
00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,280
Speaker 1: inline blocker, and he said, look, he's you know, he's

149
00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840
Speaker 1: not six five. That is what it is, he said.

150
00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,720
Speaker 1: But he can be a backside blocker, you know, inline,

151
00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,920
Speaker 1: you can do some things like that, but you're not

152
00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna put him at the point of attack, at least

153
00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960
Speaker 1: not now. He said. Maybe he grows into that as

154
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000
Speaker 1: he as he gets older and it's you know, stronger.

155
00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,920
Speaker 1: But you know, that's just not what you're gonna ask

156
00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280
Speaker 1: him to do right now, because I think he's gonna

157
00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,640
Speaker 1: move blocker though, like either from an h back or

158
00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,200
Speaker 1: a fullback or you know, I guess it's like a person,

159
00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,160
Speaker 1: you know that. You know, we've seen a lot of

160
00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,920
Speaker 1: these tight ends pulling around as front side you know,

161
00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,360
Speaker 1: run blockers, and he can do that on the move.

162
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna line up like Mark Bruner

163
00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,480
Speaker 1: or you know, one of these guys off the line

164
00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,480
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and fight the ends all day. Yeah, that's

165
00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,480
Speaker 1: just that's just not fair to him. I also talked

166
00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,120
Speaker 1: to him about Pat Friar Muth and he in an.

167
00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,880
Speaker 1: Then she said, Alfredo Roberts said, I want him to

168
00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040
Speaker 1: be more George Kittle than I wanted to beat Travis

169
00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey Okay. My interpretation of that is Kittle to me,

170
00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,720
Speaker 1: is the better player than Kelsey. He said he thinks

171
00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,400
Speaker 1: Kittle Kittle is the most complete tight end in the NFL,

172
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440
Speaker 1: and that's what he sees friar Muth growing into Oka.

173
00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,440
Speaker 1: Kittles a nasty blocker that loves it, puts people on

174
00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,360
Speaker 1: their back, Um, very leverage. Oryented a lot of snap

175
00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,920
Speaker 1: in his hips, either as a blocker or with the

176
00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,080
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, running people over. Um, He's fast.

177
00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,480
Speaker 1: I love that. I that thought process for friar Muth,

178
00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 1: but he's not there as a blocker close in that

179
00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,920
Speaker 1: opinion to me, not that he's bad. I think Kittles

180
00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,920
Speaker 1: in the grunt category of one of the best in

181
00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,640
Speaker 1: the league at both receiving and blocking. You know. And

182
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the Friar Muth is there yet, But

183
00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's too lofty of a goal, right

184
00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,679
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, you know, you want to shoot

185
00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,839
Speaker 1: for the at um. That's the idea is for him

186
00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,720
Speaker 1: to be a complete tight end real quick to Kittle

187
00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,000
Speaker 1: lines up like a traditional tight end to Kelsey's closer

188
00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,720
Speaker 1: to a big slot than he is a type end.

189
00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's a big movement guy finesse type route runner,

190
00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760
Speaker 1: great at it and great after the catch. They're both

191
00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,200
Speaker 1: great after the catch. Kittle's more of a slasher, straight

192
00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,000
Speaker 1: line looking for people to run over after the catch,

193
00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,680
Speaker 1: and Kelsey's more of the weaver, you know, looking for daylight. Yeah, yeah,

194
00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,600
Speaker 1: that that's a good, good assessment there by you. The

195
00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 1: other thing that we've seen happen here in the last

196
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,640
Speaker 1: couple of days Matt is Kendrick Green kind of taking

197
00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,200
Speaker 1: control of that left guard position. Even before Kevin Dotson

198
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,600
Speaker 1: sprained his ankle yesterday, Green had been running exclusively with

199
00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,680
Speaker 1: the first unit as opposed to the first It was

200
00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 1: the year the trading off us, you know series like

201
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,040
Speaker 1: it had been earlier in camp. The last couple of days,

202
00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,800
Speaker 1: Green had been the guy. Yeah, and before camp I

203
00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,840
Speaker 1: kept holding not hope. Maybe he'll go back to center

204
00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,960
Speaker 1: and be a long term Dawson Webster, hardy, you know,

205
00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,240
Speaker 1: little pouncing. Let be the future center here for a

206
00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,560
Speaker 1: long time. We get more light. Um. But you and

207
00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,240
Speaker 1: I talked about it a lot on the air early

208
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,240
Speaker 1: in camp that that's on a knock on Dotson at all.

209
00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,640
Speaker 1: I just think he's more of a masher and they

210
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,400
Speaker 1: want movement and speed and making plays on the second

211
00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,920
Speaker 1: level and the the third level. Green can I mean, if

212
00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,160
Speaker 1: they race, it's not even close or in terms of

213
00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,880
Speaker 1: changing direction's probably the fastest offensive oneman on the team. Yeah,

214
00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,120
Speaker 1: I bet he is. I'm sure. I mean Daniels can run.

215
00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just sitting and off thought my head, but yeah,

216
00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,040
Speaker 1: I bet he is, and he can. It shows on tape,

217
00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,880
Speaker 1: especially at Illinois. You know where he was making blocks

218
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,120
Speaker 1: fifty yards on field. I mean, I'm not making that up,

219
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080
Speaker 1: but he was running down the field like a tight end. Yeah,

220
00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,000
Speaker 1: and he's their best finisher, and I think that that's

221
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,640
Speaker 1: something that they want in the lineup as well. Uh,

222
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, because when guys start, you know when when

223
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,360
Speaker 1: when other offensive linemen see a guy just blast somebody

224
00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,120
Speaker 1: out on the edge or something like, now I gotta

225
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,520
Speaker 1: do that. Now, you know, I want to do that

226
00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm sure the whole not even a

227
00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,720
Speaker 1: line room, but the whole offensive staff room goes crazy

228
00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,240
Speaker 1: on those type of things, and you want to be

229
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,440
Speaker 1: the next one, and you know you set then the

230
00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,360
Speaker 1: receivers want to do it and the tight ends do

231
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,080
Speaker 1: so I'm sure taking some of the center responsibilities off

232
00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,319
Speaker 1: his plate. His just lightened his mental load allows him

233
00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,880
Speaker 1: to play quicker, faster, because contrary to popular belief, he

234
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,800
Speaker 1: was never short athletically or he's not strong enough. It's

235
00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,960
Speaker 1: technique stuff that was a problem last year. I mean,

236
00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,480
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of clay there that's very moltible.

237
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,800
Speaker 1: So you know what happens to Dotson, so be it.

238
00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's a fourth ron pick right right right.

239
00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160
Speaker 1: You know if if if he works out, great, if

240
00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't, okay, you know, he's still a valuable player

241
00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,520
Speaker 1: on the team, and I'm sure he'll he'll play at

242
00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 1: some point this season, you know, even if he loses

243
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,880
Speaker 1: that job, because you know, the reality of it is

244
00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,680
Speaker 1: is that somebody's gonna get hurt at some point. Having

245
00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,640
Speaker 1: three guards that can play is not a problem, no,

246
00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, look how many guys they

247
00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,599
Speaker 1: use last year at left guard because Dotson got hurt

248
00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 1: and they went through they went through four guys into

249
00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 1: two weeks. So that's just part of the part of

250
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,199
Speaker 1: the process. You want to have guys ready to go. Um.

251
00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,880
Speaker 1: So and you know, I've I've seen you know, the

252
00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:24,080
Speaker 1: line um start to show some improvement. Was watching chocks

253
00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,520
Speaker 1: a core for yesterday working against t J Watt and Um,

254
00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,680
Speaker 1: there will be nobody who is happier when training camp

255
00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,800
Speaker 1: is over, having to go against t J. Watt and

256
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,920
Speaker 1: one on ones every every day. Can you imagine he's

257
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000
Speaker 1: always the background, I'm always the right tackle. I don't

258
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,480
Speaker 1: get a wrap off. Basically, it's good for you, you know, Yeah,

259
00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean so games are back, games will be easier. Yeah, yeah,

260
00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 1: I think you're right, you know, So that's that's a

261
00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 1: good way looking at it is he probably performs better

262
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 1: on Sundays than he does Tuesday, Wednesdays and camp, you know,

263
00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,640
Speaker 1: And so I mean he's held his own. I understand

264
00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Wat's only not going percent here, but sevent t J

265
00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400
Speaker 1: Watt and still in some of those situations is the

266
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,680
Speaker 1: problem for any offensive tackle. No doubt. There's a reason

267
00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,680
Speaker 1: why they triple team that guy, right right, Um, more things.

268
00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,240
Speaker 1: I want to catch up on two and then maybe

269
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 1: that'll even eat up most of this hour, But I

270
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,400
Speaker 1: gotta get a pick It update. I thought he was

271
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,040
Speaker 1: looking a little better again, and Bisky was definitely looking better.

272
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,480
Speaker 1: Pick It was starting to look a little crisper, a

273
00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,439
Speaker 1: little more comfortable getting hit ball of his hands a

274
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,640
Speaker 1: little bit like our Corobably, Mike pursue to put it

275
00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,079
Speaker 1: well today and we were watching on the sidelines, um

276
00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,959
Speaker 1: this morning, he said, you know when when I when

277
00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,520
Speaker 1: I think about it, he said, Troubinsky has had more

278
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,880
Speaker 1: of the while moments. Rudolph has been the steady guy.

279
00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,120
Speaker 1: He's he's been there every day. Yeah, and and uh

280
00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,240
Speaker 1: pick it has come the farthest okay. I mean he

281
00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,080
Speaker 1: was very lost when he got here, you know, and

282
00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,200
Speaker 1: again to be expected. That's not even a knock on him.

283
00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,600
Speaker 1: That's that's how all the rookies are every time they

284
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,480
Speaker 1: get the camps. There's no such thing as NFL. Ready

285
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,800
Speaker 1: we say that a lot. So good. I mean, progress

286
00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,679
Speaker 1: is what you want. Yeah, And to me, that's the

287
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,440
Speaker 1: whole key here is is he continuing to get better.

288
00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna work at it. I mean, that's

289
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,599
Speaker 1: not gonna be a problem. So good good. And he

290
00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,200
Speaker 1: still when when he makes a uh, when it's a

291
00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,720
Speaker 1: touch throw, uh you know, back pylon throw or something

292
00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,840
Speaker 1: like that, he puts it right on the money. I

293
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,880
Speaker 1: think that's as great as strength. And that's showing up

294
00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,800
Speaker 1: really since the start too is catchable ball accurate, the

295
00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,720
Speaker 1: right trajectory on it, not trying to knock people over,

296
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,640
Speaker 1: um you know, and really puts it right where the

297
00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,760
Speaker 1: receiver can make a play on it. So I think

298
00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,760
Speaker 1: that'll be a constant with him. Yeah. If there's one

299
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,120
Speaker 1: one criticism that I do have of Trabinsky, it's, you know,

300
00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,080
Speaker 1: sometimes the touch on some of the shorter stuff is

301
00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he throws a fastball a lot of

302
00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,280
Speaker 1: times when you could throw a change up and make

303
00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,320
Speaker 1: it a little bit uh catch his guy. But he

304
00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200
Speaker 1: had a throw today in seven shots Chase Claypool. Uh,

305
00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Robisky. Yeah. Claypool, first of all, was

306
00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800
Speaker 1: in the slot inside. George Pickens was on the outside,

307
00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,320
Speaker 1: Claypool in the in the slot, and Claypool ran basically

308
00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,040
Speaker 1: a little out to the back of the end zone,

309
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,640
Speaker 1: um about you know, he's all the way in the

310
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,760
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, but he was about he

311
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,760
Speaker 1: wasn't all the way to the corner. He's about ten

312
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:17,160
Speaker 1: yards in, and Trabisky just put it on him high

313
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200
Speaker 1: like he didn't put any there was no loft on it.

314
00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,280
Speaker 1: It was it was It was essentially the Ben Roethlisberger

315
00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,920
Speaker 1: throw to Santonio and the Super Bowl, except it was

316
00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,920
Speaker 1: kind of more in the middle of the end zone

317
00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,880
Speaker 1: and Claypool reached up, caught it, kept both feet you know,

318
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,800
Speaker 1: he tapped his toes in the back of the end zone.

319
00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a good throw and

320
00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,040
Speaker 1: it's a kind of catch that you want to see

321
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160
Speaker 1: Claypool maker as well where he uses you know, that

322
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,600
Speaker 1: big body too. He was on. The only guy who

323
00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,520
Speaker 1: was gonna catch it was him, and it's it's not

324
00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,280
Speaker 1: an easy catch on the way you describe it either

325
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,160
Speaker 1: by any stretching detonation away from his body, a ball

326
00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't have much arc on it, that's coming hot,

327
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,720
Speaker 1: and you don't have a lot of work too, You

328
00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,480
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of room of a lot of

329
00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,240
Speaker 1: grass to really change your feet or adapt to it either.

330
00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,240
Speaker 1: So that's promising. And again what I noticed, and I'm

331
00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280
Speaker 1: sure this is even much more so the case, and

332
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,240
Speaker 1: I think again should be expected. It sure felt like

333
00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,240
Speaker 1: Trabinsky was understanding each specific receiver better too, you know,

334
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 1: like he doesn't throw that ball to Miller or you

335
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like it's starting to know who

336
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,760
Speaker 1: adjust to what you know, is this guy gonna make

337
00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,280
Speaker 1: the back shoulder, you know, catch for me or do

338
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 1: I have to lead him? Or you know, how fast

339
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,760
Speaker 1: are they? And that's the thing that people need to

340
00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,280
Speaker 1: understand with with Rabinsky, much like Ben Roethlisberger last year.

341
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280
Speaker 1: Uh and you know, so you see that in the

342
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,840
Speaker 1: past with roethlisbergers just trying different throws with guys. He

343
00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,239
Speaker 1: talked about doing it last year with with Pat Friarmouth.

344
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,280
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna throw this one. I could throw

345
00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,400
Speaker 1: it out in front of him and he's gonna catch it,

346
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, time and again. But I want to throw

347
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960
Speaker 1: this one behind him. I don't see how he adjusts

348
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 1: his body to make that catch, because I want to

349
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 1: see if I, you know, if I need to make

350
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,680
Speaker 1: that throw in a game. I want to see if

351
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,560
Speaker 1: he's capable of contorting his body and bringing his body around.

352
00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 1: So I think we've seen some of that with Trabinsky.

353
00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,400
Speaker 1: And then people are like, well, he looks like crap.

354
00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, it depends what you're practicing and practice it's

355
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,600
Speaker 1: like a picture again going to it. That's spring training,

356
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 1: and he's I'm gonna work on my change up today,

357
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,840
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm twenty changeups this inning and all

358
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they start getting hitting. Boy hit a

359
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,320
Speaker 1: bad outing. We were just working on this changeup, you know.

360
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 1: So I think it's been some of that, and Ben

361
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,600
Speaker 1: was very well known for that. No one's more known

362
00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 1: for it than Aaron Rodgers, you know, like he'll he'll

363
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,240
Speaker 1: tell you that. You know, when him and Davante Adams

364
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,399
Speaker 1: got together for the first year or so or the

365
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,679
Speaker 1: first training camp, He's like, I'm gonna throw this one.

366
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a bad ball. Oh he can s

367
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,879
Speaker 1: looking him down with it. I'm gonna throw a short one.

368
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw one at his shoelaces. You know, I'm

369
00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna throw this one, you know, way out in front

370
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,360
Speaker 1: of him. And he just kept passing every test. And

371
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760
Speaker 1: like you said, it all comes down to on if

372
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000
Speaker 1: it's third and eight in my arm slot only has

373
00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,080
Speaker 1: one option and I got a guy hanging off me.

374
00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,600
Speaker 1: Do I know he can make the play in the

375
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,880
Speaker 1: one spot that I can deliver the football this time?

376
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,040
Speaker 1: Or can I not go to that guy? You know

377
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,399
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, I mean when people say on

378
00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,680
Speaker 1: the same page and trust and receiver, it's a lot

379
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960
Speaker 1: of that stuff is just knowing each other's skill set,

380
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really knowing the receiver skills that they

381
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,119
Speaker 1: got adjust a quarterback, and you know when you can

382
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,560
Speaker 1: do that as a quarterback in practice, but also when

383
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,440
Speaker 1: you know you're going to be the starter. Well that too, right, boy,

384
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,000
Speaker 1: that was an ugly ball, Like, well, I did it

385
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,680
Speaker 1: on purpose, you know, I was working on something there

386
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,680
Speaker 1: to see if we could get that to happen through

387
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 1: it as far as I could. And I want to

388
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 1: see if Austin was fast enough to run under it.

389
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,520
Speaker 1: You know not, boy, he's got a terrible deep ball.

390
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 1: It's like I can I over see if I can

391
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 1: overthrow the possible to overthrow this guy see that fast?

392
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, So you only do that if you're

393
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,840
Speaker 1: confident that you're the starter. Yeah, even though nobody's saying

394
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,360
Speaker 1: it if officially know, but it's obvious. It's obvious, right, right,

395
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 1: and becoming more and more obvious every day apparently. And again,

396
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,679
Speaker 1: I mean like my homes was one of those guys.

397
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,439
Speaker 1: He through five picks in practice. Well, he's trying to

398
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 1: put the ball through the keyhole every time, you know,

399
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 1: to hit Tyreeke's fingernail, you know, or whatever, you know.

400
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, So depends what their coach to do that

401
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,440
Speaker 1: day or what they are how much freedom have to

402
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,680
Speaker 1: improvise to like I know a lot of you guys

403
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 1: and you kind of make fun of it too, you know,

404
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 1: chart the quarterbacks and all that. That's really isn't much

405
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 1: to gain, especially if you're you're you're, you're, you know,

406
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 1: putting the seven on seven stats in there with team stuff. Yes, yes,

407
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: that's apples and oranges. I don't care. I know they're

408
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 1: they're both passing plays. There's no there's no pass rush,

409
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 1: there's not like and the team stuff, do you count

410
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: sacks or would have been sacks or you know, like

411
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff too, Like, Yeah, it's it's a little

412
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 1: subject practice. Yeah, we're talking about practice practice. Absolutely, we're

413
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am

414
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 1: Dale Ally. You're listening to the drive. You're on Steelers

415
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: Nation Radio where you're here live at Steelers training camp

416
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: at Saint Vincent College of Steelers, getting their practice in

417
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: today this morning because of the inclement weather that has

418
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: rolled through here this afternoon, which we're seeing here a

419
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 1: little uh so heavy rains and some some lightning there

420
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: that's off in the distance. I think we're okay, but

421
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: if you hear something in all of a sudden, we're

422
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: no longer on the air. That's what happened. We get

423
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: struck by lightning. Um, either that or Craig Wolfley came

424
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: over and he got struck by lightning. That could happen too.

425
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with

426
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: more from St. Pency College right after this. At least.

427
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

428
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

429
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson

430
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: and Lo and behold and it started the rain hard

431
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: again here. Whether it's changed since the break again? You know?

432
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 1: I see the blue sky in front of us here. Yeah,

433
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: like if you're looking at a clock from about ten

434
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: o'clock to one o'clock is lovely light blue. But everything

435
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: else is like this dark and ominous. And it's the

436
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: rains coming down hard again, dark and almost like my

437
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: mood is turning as constant thunder just kind of rolling

438
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: through the hills around here too. And um, good for

439
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers they were smart and got a good practice,

440
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: a good move there. I don't know who made that call,

441
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: but somebody should be working for the UH for acy

442
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: weather or something, because I think they have some advantages

443
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: of having a better clue of what's coming and everybody else.

444
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: But is there a chance they do it? They practice

445
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: again tomorrow in the morning, maybe maybe, I mean, it

446
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: just depends on when they're gonna miss this kind of stuff.

447
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: And you know, tomorrow's practice, I don't expect to be

448
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: super physical. Like I said, I think he'll he'll start

449
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: to back things off on them. Maybe they go the

450
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: field tour for that one or something. They might be

451
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: able to do kind of a walk through on the

452
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: field turrifight because I don't you know, again, it's not

453
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna be super not as physical. Today's the last two

454
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: practices have been physical. You know when you when you're

455
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: working you go from your seven shots to start practice

456
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: yesterday and then finish it with a goal line drill. Yeah,

457
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: that's that's physical. Setting it down so real quick along

458
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: those lines. We have a lot more discussed. But tomorrow

459
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: you think will be lighter. Yes Wednesday, Thursday, Thursdays another

460
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: light day because they get then they'll break. Friday will

461
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: be zero practice. Friday's just a walk through, okay, and

462
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: then they host a game Saturday. Yes, okay, so you

463
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: probably have two more light ones in a walkthrough between

464
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: now and then day. Okay, that makes sense in the

465
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: bang these last couple of days, you know, it makes

466
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: perfect sense, especially healthier. Even Saturday's practice down on the

467
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: South Side was it was physical. They did the one

468
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: on ones with the linebackers and Arthur Millett against the

469
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: running backs open field tackling. And I'll tell you what,

470
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get lumped into that one because he's a nickelback.

471
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Better be right right. I asked him about it because

472
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: he took I I verified this. I think they did

473
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: forty one reps of that. Now, remind you they've got

474
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: six inside the seven inside linebackers doing the drill in

475
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: our to Milette, and Arthur Milette took I believe eight

476
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: of the reps on that. He just kept getting back

477
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: up and guys, and he took, you know, a big chunkle.

478
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: He took of the reps like he was he And

479
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: I asked what about it yesterday? I'm like, you know,

480
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: what were you doing? Season? I want to still, I

481
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: want to prove to them, and I could tackle, yeah,

482
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: and prove them I could still tackle. And that's something

483
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure Mike Hilton did that. Drill. Oh yeah, yeah,

484
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: And that's why you know, like they went to goal

485
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: line today. They they're down in there in the gold

486
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: line package and they go to their nickel and Molett's

487
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: in there. And that's why. I mean, he's he's a

488
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: tough dude. You know, you gotta be to play that position,

489
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: especially if you're under size. You know, Hilton is a

490
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: perfect example. Toughest could be, um, but you can't be

491
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: wishy washy is in this league. I mean, you're gonna

492
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: be one of the smallest guys in the field in

493
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous areas. Yeah. Other than that.

494
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: Other than yeah, it's great. People like, oh, I'm just

495
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: covering the west West Welker's all day long and not really,

496
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: that's not how this works. Time you're taking a guard

497
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: when he pulled around at your use check or a

498
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 1: tight end, everyone is much bigger than you. Let alone, uh,

499
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get a nausey Harris type guy

500
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: on the ground or you know, Derrick Henry or chub

501
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: or one of those es. And he's he's kind of

502
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: surprising with that. He's he's not. I mean, he's a solid,

503
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: solid tackler. I looked up the numbers. Um, he missed

504
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: one tackle last year, and again there's some running backs,

505
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: and I mean it's it's his responsibilities are not outside corner.

506
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: So his miss tackle rate, if you go to Pro

507
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Football Reference, was like two point one percent because he

508
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: had like fifty tackles and he missed one. That's all.

509
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: That's all they do, that little stat That's something that

510
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: this year I think that they've stressed because that's Levi.

511
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: Wallace is known as a very good tackler. He's I

512
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever been above a ten point I

513
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: think last year he's at ten point eight percent. I've

514
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: never looked at miss tackle percentage. That should pete um.

515
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: It's very readily. He getta know where to look, but

516
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: it's there. Um, So he's he's a ten point eight. Uh.

517
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: The monte CAZy is what is around nine percent miss

518
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: tackle right over the course of his career. Again, doesn't

519
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: miss tackles. Mallette doesn't miss tackles. How about Jack? Do

520
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: you happen to know that one? I was, yeah, I

521
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: was just looking at the d b s because you know, um,

522
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: because that's how you know. They gave up the most

523
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: explosive runs in the league last year, the most the

524
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: most ten yard plus runs last year. And that's not

525
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: just getting beat off the ball, and that's that's guys

526
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: getting into your secondary and all of a sudden, now

527
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: your second. But they gotta get guys on the ground

528
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, if they don't, that ten

529
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: yard run turns into the twenty yard run. And so

530
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: I think that there was definitely bringing in those two

531
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: guys in the secondary and then you're replacing Joe. Hayden

532
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: had a like a twenty six percent miss tackle rates

533
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: last year. It was not his best year as tackling

534
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: in those situations. I mean, I'm just speculating because Hayden

535
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: was never afraid to throw his body or he did

536
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: to do his thing. But I wonder huge far a

537
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: tackling if you just think about it, is getting my

538
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: feet in the right positions, and if he's half a

539
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: step slower than he was, then you're reaching in your

540
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: arm tackle in, or you're not getting all your body in,

541
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: or you're not wrapping you know, So maybe that's part

542
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: of the issue. Um Bush to me is a questionable tackler,

543
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: and part of it because he's got such a small radius.

544
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, those really super fast guys that fly around

545
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: tackle right al right. He made a lot of great

546
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: plays the way. Yeah, because they're so fast they overrun stuff.

547
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: A lot of times. You mentioned this a ton over

548
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: Shazier's career, too, is especially early. He'd be in the

549
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: backfield and he may get a fingernail on the back,

550
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: but he made that backstop his feet and then some

551
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: one of the other ten is right right right, So

552
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: missing tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage isn't

553
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: nearly as big a deal as if you're a free

554
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: safety or Joe Hayden. You know they're running for a touchdown.

555
00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: Of course, um Spoon to me is he's guy cons um,

556
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: but everybody's I've heard a lot of people making fitz

557
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Patrick misses too many tackles. He's like ten percent, and

558
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: his tackles are harder. Absolutely, he's in the open field,

559
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: you had no one behind you. You have all this

560
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: grass to cover with a back or a tight end

561
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: or Deebo Samuel on a slant that already has a

562
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: head of Steve a j. Brown, that guy in the ground,

563
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: it's not like make his flat footed, just sitting there

564
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: like a goalie. But I mean he's still you don't

565
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: have many assets. I mean, you don't have the sidelines

566
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: you're advantage. You don't have other guys forcing them your

567
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: way a lot of the time. And right, and I

568
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: can't miss right. I could do anything I can. It's

569
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: like Ben at the goal line when Beds fumbled, Like

570
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: whatever you can do that doesn't have to be pretty right,

571
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, but just you know when when people talk

572
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: about he's not a great tackler, like you only miss

573
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: a temper sent in this league, it sounds like it

574
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: sounds like a big number, but it's really not because

575
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: you know what the other guys get paid to to

576
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: break tackles, right, Like, this is a tough league to play.

577
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: It it's fat than their physical and there's a lot

578
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: of advantages for the offensive player. Again hitting a guy

579
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: and stride or I mean Derrick Henry getting pasked the

580
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: second level with a head of steam. I mean you're

581
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: just diving at him and hoping. Yeah, that's one of

582
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: those time you know, let's think, you know, people talk

583
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: you know, Najia Harris is you know forced miss tackles. Okay, that,

584
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: but you know other guys, other players have teams that

585
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: make guys miss tackles too. I mean that's that's all

586
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: part of it. Yeah, you know, but nobody ever wants

587
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: to give the the offense credit. Well that guy is

588
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. Well know, they just missed too many tackles,

589
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: right right, It works both ways, but that's one thing

590
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: that tackle. Like if you're if you're looking for the

591
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: difference between Witherspoon and Levi Wallace, to me, that's where

592
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: it's night and day. Right. I think Waller Witherspoon has

593
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: more ball skills, better ball skill, and maybe you know,

594
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: a better cover guy, probably a little more length. Yeah,

595
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: but Levi Wallace is by far are like he's dick

596
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Lebou would love Levi by Wallace. He would love will

597
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: you by Wallace? Like? I bet Spoon beats him in

598
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: a race? Yeah, you know, especially a longer one, you know,

599
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: forty plus yard one. Um, but you're right, I mean,

600
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: neither one is real, thickly built or powerful. But if

601
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: you're a walk up, all I need to know about

602
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: Wallace is you walked onto Bama and started for sabing.

603
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: You're tough and you can tackle, because there's no way

604
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: those things wouldn't have happened. I mean, that's just an

605
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: impossibility on a national championship team, right right. I mean,

606
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, the defensive backstab recruits since he's been there,

607
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they're all more talented than him.

608
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: So enough set on that one so quick question on

609
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: the Milette drill, is it odd to you that Sutton

610
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: was not involved in that? I mean he's also an

611
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: outside They were also working on some one once. They

612
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: were working some one on ones with the receivers at

613
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the same time. Um, and they one of those guys covering.

614
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: So um not really because you don't. I mean to me,

615
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Moletta came out of that Nick topp Le's put it down. Yeah,

616
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that's where Derek Watt hurt his shoulder. Uh Ulysses Gilbert

617
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: got dinged up in that drill as well. So I

618
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: mean it's a physical drill. This is like Oklahoma drill

619
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah again, Yeah, So first off, I

620
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: think Mallett's offense, Arthur, but you're a little more expendable

621
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: than Sutton, you know for a drill like that, you

622
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: have a little more to prove you're not guaranteed. And

623
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: that's his role. And that's what other things wanna say,

624
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: is of all the defensive backs on the team that

625
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: are you know, I have a real good shot to

626
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: contribute to me, he's the only one that's just a slot. Yeah. Yeah.

627
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: In fact, he was the only guy on the depth

628
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: chart listed as a slot as the nickel. I mean,

629
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of other guys who can do it,

630
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: like five of them, but they're all shapes and sizes,

631
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: but there's only one to me that is slot and

632
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: then everything else is not on the table four, which

633
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: isn't a negative because it makes them a little different

634
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: than some of the others. Yes, I mean there's a

635
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: wide variety in that defensive backfield right now. Yeah, I agree. Um,

636
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: so that that's an interesting uh you know that physicality factor,

637
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I think is something they wanted to add to the

638
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: equation here with these with this group this year. Part

639
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: of the run defense. Yeah, it's really everybody looks at

640
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: the you know, the linebackers and the you know, the

641
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: guys in the front seven. But yeah, well they're not

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a nose tack. That's how the league work right, right,

643
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: so you know it's run defense is a group project.

644
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. You know. I wrote that

645
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: the other day when somebody talked about the nose tacks.

646
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, if if you know, if if Kenny Pickett

647
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: doesn't start with they have been better off taking you know,

648
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: another nose tackle or something like that. I'm like taking

649
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna play the snaps like it's stopping

650
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: to run that way doesn't necessarily matter anymore in this league.

651
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I'll take Jordan Davis, right, you know, who can line

652
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: up on the nose, but he can do a lot

653
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: of other things too. Or Vita Vea and you know,

654
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean those guys can run and they push the

655
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: pocket and maybe they aren't hundred percent snap guys, but

656
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: they don't have to come off the field in certain

657
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: situations either. That's the thing is, if you have to

658
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: come off the field in certain situations, the league really

659
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: just doesn't have a place for you anymore. Expect to

660
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Hampton or will Fork. They'd be third round picks us

661
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: here if that. If that, yeah, and they're the best

662
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: at what they do. You know, they're the prototypes. You know,

663
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you're right, maybe if that, because that's just

664
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, if you don't rush the passer

665
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: in today's game, you can't you can't play in today's game.

666
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: You better you better have at least a little bit

667
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: of juicer. You're going you're gonna fall. You're just gonna fall.

668
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: And all these quarterbacks are so athletic. Maybe you do

669
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: beat the center, But how do I get Lamar or

670
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: my homes or Alan on the ground or influencing some

671
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: of those guys. I feel like in the schoolyard, I

672
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: was the bad athlete, you know, trying to catch Mark

673
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Angel running around in the schoolyard and hit pump fake

674
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: and I jump into the air and he'd laugh and anything,

675
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, like I got no chance to catch him.

676
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: He's a way better athlete that I am. I'm never

677
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna get him on the ground, you know. Yeah, And

678
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: that's you know, chasing Lamar. So Mark Angel was that

679
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: guy for you? He was, Yeah, he was. He was

680
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: a elementary school star, little head of his time. Yeah yeah,

681
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: good dude. Neighbor mind as well. But he'd laugh you

682
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: he should. I felt as though he was you know,

683
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: I would fight for the pump fake time and time again,

684
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: and you know he's got a pump fake Yes, I

685
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: mean again. I took some heat for saying, but you know,

686
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter those runs, that run stopping ability, doesn't

687
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: you better be able to stop the run on your

688
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: way to the Pastor's kind of the what I what

689
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: I was meaning there? And somebody took offense out it.

690
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: You mean it doesn't mean it doesn't matter stopping a run.

691
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: The Steelers were dead last last year. I get it.

692
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean all the folks that love to say running

693
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: backs don't matter, stopping the run doesn't matter, well, they're

694
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: all wrong. It matters. It just matters less much less.

695
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Or if that's all you can do, I don't really

696
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: need you. You know, Yannick and Dockway is really lean

697
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: and doesn't set the edge at all, but people keep

698
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: giving them first for a second round. Picks with a

699
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: guy because he does one thing, well, that's hard to find.

700
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Let's rush the pastor. And there's tons of those guys

701
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: in the league. You know, there's tons of examples of

702
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, that's why, you know, guys like what

703
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: you want is a Larry Hogan Joe be type. Yeah,

704
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, a guy who's okay, he he could stop

705
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: the run by penetrating and making you want the Chris

706
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Hope type. Yeah. I mean they're thick and powerful. They're

707
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: not weak at the line of scrimmage at all. But

708
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: they're more explosive than they are stout. Yeah. You know,

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: if you you know, if there's a two columns, there

710
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: would be more explosive upfield, get off the ball type guys.

711
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of way to stop the run too.

712
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Scoring points doesn't hurt. That doesn't hurt that, that to me,

713
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: was the lead once in a while wouldn't hurt either.

714
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing that that the Steelers can do

715
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: this year to help stop the run is put more

716
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: points in the board, being more just be more consistent

717
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: on offense, challenge the opposing defense a little bit more,

718
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: make the opposing offense feel like they have to keep

719
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: up a little bit so they you know, they just

720
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: can't come out and run run, run. Oh, we're gonna

721
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: punt it here because you know, our third and get

722
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: back our third and four run didn't work this time.

723
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get it back and then you run run, run, run, run,

724
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, um, it's a much longer conversation. But I

725
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: just wrote an article about Steelers defensive personnel groupings and

726
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: offenses can dictate to you. You know who you play

727
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: on the field a lot. And the long story short,

728
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: the offense didn't help the defense mask any of their weaknesses,

729
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I agree completely with that.

730
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Um Like, the Chief's defense was bad last year and

731
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't even notice, you know what

732
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, because the opponents knew they're gonna have to

733
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: score thirty exactly. Yeah, they got a lot of help

734
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: from the offense. We are going to take another break

735
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: as the rain starts to fall again here at St.

736
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Fencing College. He is not it really is. He is

737
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lalli. You're listening to the

738
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're live from St.

739
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: Vincent College here where the Steelers finished their practice this morning.

740
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: The practice was moved up from this afternoon to ten

741
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: thirty this morning. Steelers got it in and as soon

742
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: as they got it in, it started the rain almost immediately,

743
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: so they timed that thing up well. Um it though.

744
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more on the Drive right after

745
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: this at least He's the drive with Dale Lolly and

746
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold,

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lollly here

748
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. We are alive at St. Vincent College.

749
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Here with the day. This is the drive on Steelers

750
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. And uh, well the rain falling here again.

751
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: It's just been constant, like every five minute rain five

752
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: minutes stopped, five minutes, five minutes stopped for five minutes.

753
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: It was pretty much gorying a constant drizzle or a

754
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: heavy rain a lot of the time too. A little

755
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: bit of lightning and stuff. But yeah, campus is pretty quiet.

756
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: It looks like I'm sure everyone's hunks it down Field recovered.

757
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: He was ready for tomorrow. Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow

758
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Husin's Store for for a training camp. Two. Uh, this

759
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: was a definitely something that, um, well, you have no

760
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: control over the rain. I guess there was a lot

761
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: of some fan complaints about Friday night lights getting canceled

762
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, like they have four inches

763
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: of rain out here in like four hours. It was ridiculous.

764
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: But of course the fans don't look at that way

765
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: at times and are just looking forward to It's been

766
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: what three years since they've had one. They've been looking

767
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: forward to it. It's a really good time. But out

768
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: of your control, you know, I mean, well oh well,

769
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: um yeah, so um, you know Matt one of the

770
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: guys who has flashed a little bit here. For me,

771
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: it seems to make a play every day, especially when

772
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: since they've gotten uh physical here like Olivia Newton John

773
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: let's get physical look at Yeah, I about that. Sorry

774
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: to hear that she has passed. But um it's Mark

775
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Robinson the linebacker. Yeah he is. Uh. I kind of

776
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: thought he was a throwaway, you know, late pick. I

777
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: didn't know a ton about him, special team or only type.

778
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: But doesn't seem that he's no. He shows up. Yeah,

779
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: he covers ground. He seems to be pretty good athlete,

780
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: change in direction, explosive. He's not the biggest guy in

781
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: the world. What's he what's he listed at? Is he

782
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: about two thirty something like something like that? The former

783
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: running back kind of built more like a running back.

784
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: He's not you know, a long, uh tall, you know

785
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: type of guy. But yeah, he definitely shows up. The

786
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: linebackers in general. I mean, am I wrong or do

787
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: they have six or seven that are all at least

788
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: in the hunt to make the team. And we're talking

789
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: about Bush Jack, you know, Spillane, and then all the

790
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: way down the list here of Um Gilbert and Buddy Johnson,

791
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson, you know, I mean they've got a good group.

792
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Alan's still here, you Marcus Allen still here. So, uh,

793
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: they're throwing a lot of resources at that position. They're

794
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: smaller ones in general. Wow, they really over the next

795
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: couple of years on the last a couple of years,

796
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: first round pick signing, showbird signing Jack and late round picks.

797
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: So they've been searching for a while. You would hope

798
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: the answers are somewhere in that room now, and they

799
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: might be. Yeah, the list Mark Robinson of five eleven five,

800
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: So I knew he was kind of a shorter stock

801
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: year square built type of guy. Okay, he's probably a

802
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: little under five eleven, you know. Yeah, but he flies

803
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: around and he shows up and um, you know it

804
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: makes himself obvious. Yeah, Alex Highsmith missing practice today. Uh,

805
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: and we saw there Twista out there again replacing him

806
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: in the base defense or even you know when they

807
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: went not Avery, Yeah, because it was Twistka Tuiska has

808
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: been here longer. I get Um, I guess there's not

809
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't not going to look too much into that,

810
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: but I guess it is not worthy. I just assumed

811
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Avery was the three on either side, either one needed

812
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: a break or had a small injury, you'd step right in.

813
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: But maybe that's selling Tosca tosca a little slow, you know,

814
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: a little short. Yeah. Um, there's a reliability factor there, yeah,

815
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: for sure. And and and that that's what they you know,

816
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: they don't want you going out there and making mistakes. No,

817
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: absolutely not, you know, that's that's that's those are killers.

818
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: Uh just looking at some other guys who have shown

819
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: up here of late, Um, real quick, I mean go ahead.

820
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: We sort of touched on this in the first segment,

821
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of buzz. And I know

822
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: you wrote an article Ogenjoby looks legit huh yeah, yeah, yeah.

823
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean Limon aren't always easy to judge here, but

824
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I've gotten reports from everybody saying, oh that's a nice Yeah,

825
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: he showed up right. I mean yesterday was his first

826
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: day that he practiced really and immediately, uh makes the

827
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: stuff on a on a run and and then uh,

828
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, gets into the backfield and the next a

829
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: couple of days later and and you know, diverts the

830
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: run and some of us comes in and cleans it up.

831
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: I mean that's how he defends a run. Like you said,

832
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an upfield attacking penetrator. But he's not tiny.

833
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: You know, Atkins was like two eight d. I mean,

834
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: he's a lot bigger than that. Um. But he's gonna

835
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: be disruptive. He's gonna get off the ball. He can

836
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: hold up a double team. That's not ideal for him.

837
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: He's not gonna do that snap after snap, and he

838
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: could push a guard you know, straight back in the

839
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: backfield and do those things too. But uh, you know,

840
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: the pass rush potential and production has been there as well.

841
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I think he's a great addition. Yeah, I think, you know,

842
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: once fans finally get over this whole thing that he

843
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: was with the Browns and he was part of that

844
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: thing with with Myles Garrett, and there's still some of that,

845
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: there's still some people out there that just aren't ever

846
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: gonna forgive him. I don't think anyone around here is

847
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: particularly worried about it anything. They don't seem to be.

848
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: I think they're happy to have a good teammate. Yeah,

849
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: and it seems like a good dude. I talked to

850
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: him yesterday after practice and and uh, you know, uh

851
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: it was chomping at the bit a little bit to

852
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: get out there and show what he could do. That

853
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the tough part of it. Like he

854
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: wasn't here for mini camp. It was very much like

855
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: the signing last year, you know, of of t Yeah,

856
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: like you didn't go through the entire offseason with these

857
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: guys and you come into training camp. In his case,

858
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't practice for the first two weeks.

859
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: So I'm sure guys are like, alright, we know you

860
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: played in the past and played against him, probably what

861
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: are you gonna do for us now? That's kind of

862
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: what this league is about that they don't care what

863
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: was you know in your past in terms of that stuff, Like, no, well,

864
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: we need another d lineman and he's a good one

865
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: that's going out on the fields you can do. It's

866
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: really not a lot different than when they sign chemo

867
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: on Olhaffa from the Bengals. Like, you know, he had

868
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: been a tough guy against the Steelers before that. They

869
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: bring him in, right, Okay, he's he's one of us. Now,

870
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: you do see guys that bounce around a division because

871
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: everyone feels like they know him, and they do, you know,

872
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean they have a real good Scott report on

873
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: those guys. Um to it. Next to Hayward is pretty special. Yeah,

874
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't think we're trying to you know,

875
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: it's not that it's it's not that it's different. He's

876
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: a different style of defensive tackle. And I understand Chris

877
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Warmly had a bunch of sacks last year and he

878
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: played well, but on throwing downs only hey Word and

879
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: Ogan job next to each other on third and eight

880
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: with Watton Highsmith as your edges, it's pretty dangerous. That's

881
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: a scary. That's a really good group. And I think

882
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: you're now with the d line depth, you can ask

883
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: him to stay a little fresher for those you know,

884
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: he maybe he's out there a little less on second

885
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: and ten or whatever. You know, is that the best

886
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: force women in the league anybody can put on putt.

887
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: There's some and there's some good ones. I mean, there's

888
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: definitely some good ones. I mean, you get the rating

889
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, you get another All Pro,

890
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: first team All Pro out there. I don't think anybody

891
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: else has two first team All Pros. It's the best

892
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: in the division by far, by far. Yeah, I mean

893
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: since I guess would be second. Um Brown's deef tackles

894
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: are suspect. I have more and more concerns about the

895
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: Ravens pass Russian general to side note. I mean there's

896
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: like Bosa and mac you know, or if these guys

897
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: are I'm talking like they got two first guys who

898
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: are first team All Pros last year, not five years

899
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: ago like it was for Cleo MC. These these guys

900
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: are still getting it done at a high level right

901
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: now as we sit here. I mean, then nine nerves

902
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: come to mind. I mean, they generated a lot of

903
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: sacks last year without a lot of blitz um. But

904
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm not having one rough thought my head that wow,

905
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: that that Steelers are second to this team. Of course,

906
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: you know Green Bay's infatuating. You know there's a lot

907
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: of young their youth there that's getting better and with

908
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: a four man rush, uh Dallas, I guess if you

909
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: put Parsons and Lawrence out there is pretty strong. But

910
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: their de tackles are nothing like Ogan, Joevi or Cam. Yeah,

911
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: so I'm having it. You're probably right. I mean, you

912
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: can throw a lot of different maybe I'm missing one,

913
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, you've got the bigs, you

914
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: get the guys coming off the edge, Yeah, right, right,

915
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: groups and stunts and double teams and power and playing

916
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: the run on third and long too. They have all that. Yeah,

917
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean when they when they when they unleashed the hounds.

918
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, they didn't blitz as much last year.

919
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: They might blitz even less this year. I think you're right,

920
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times when the Steelers

921
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: get credited for blitzing, it's when they're in their base

922
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: and the team decides to throw. When you're in when

923
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: they're in their three four defense and the opposing team

924
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: decides to throw the football, Technically that's considered a blitz

925
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: because they're sending five, assuming five unless one of the

926
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: edge guys drops off, which happens less and less. I think, yeah,

927
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, but realistically the Steelers don't consider that a blitz. No,

928
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: that's not a blitz package. You know, we're gonna call

929
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: this specific blitz. It's just everyone doing so I'd like

930
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't, and I don't know. I've never sat down

931
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: and charted every single play of a season, but I

932
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: wonder how much of how much of their blitz percentage

933
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: comes from that. Yeah, see they do. Of course I

934
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: assume they do, because they know every play call. You know,

935
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: like at the college level, a g A goes in

936
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: after the game inserts every play call into the tape.

937
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: So like, for example, a lot of people might not

938
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: know what a green dog blitz is. I don't know

939
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: why it's called a green dog whatever. But if Blush

940
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: is in charge of Sa Kwan Barkley and he's playing

941
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: man coverage but it's a green dog call, and Barkley

942
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: stays in and blocks, well, then Bush comes. Thus it

943
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: becomes a blitz. But there's also one more blocker and

944
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the defensive play callers said, we're running

945
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: this blitz no matter what matter what they do, right,

946
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: So that that I think a lot of those things

947
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: get kind of knocked out in the wash throughout the

948
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: course of the year because every team has their share

949
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: of that type of stuff. But the other note, did

950
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: you know I remember, like Jason Gilden sitting here with

951
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: us a couple of years ago saying I'd rushed the

952
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: passer on like two out of three dropbacks. I think

953
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: that number has gone up heavily for what No, I

954
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: just mean percentage wise, I know. But they don't drop

955
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: in the flats like they used to as much because

956
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what they're good at. And you

957
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: let your edge rushers at rush because especially you're not blitzing.

958
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: And because you're not blitzing, right, you're not bringing a corner,

959
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: you're not bringing an extra you know, on the inside

960
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: back and placing them with you know, in coverage, bringing

961
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: an overload blitz the watch side with two guys coming.

962
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: So it's less of that zone blitz stuff that they

963
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: used to and they play more man and the league

964
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: understands zone blitz better than they used to. Yeah, they're

965
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: not catching them off guard with that too, you know. Yeah,

966
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: that means something that you can make. Yeah, something you

967
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: mix in every once in a while, but it can't

968
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: be your main scheme an even, and why do you

969
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: want I mean, what might be tremendous in coverage, but

970
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: I want to blitzing? Yeah right right, It's like the

971
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons conversation, Like boy, he's pretty impressive as a

972
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: coverage linebacker, but he's more important you know, Russian password,

973
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, so why I asked him, do you know

974
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: anything else? A high percentage of the time speaking of that.

975
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make them more predictable. I saw a

976
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: thing from Brown's training camp yesterday. They sat down with

977
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and he said his goal is she's getting

978
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty four sacks this year. That's a you know, that's

979
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: nice to nice to shoot. But I think if anyone's capable,

980
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: he's near the top of the list, that's a great goal.

981
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: We'll see. But who's the other who's their number two

982
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher? Like, who's who's the you know, who's Robbin Clowney.

983
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: He's so unique in the way he plays. But they

984
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: don't have the defense tackle guys to make that demand

985
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: the attention, you know, even if they would sign Omakon

986
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Sue or whoever. I mean, they don't have the beauty

987
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: cam Heywards. Amongst other things. Is it's really hard to

988
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: block him with the Carter center the third and six,

989
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and he's gonna walk him back

990
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to this all the time, you know, And they don't

991
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: have anyone resembling that is, he the best power player

992
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: in football right now, pure power, because Aaron Donald wins

993
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: with quicks too. I mean, he's a powerful player, but

994
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Cam is just Cam is just pure stringing, right and

995
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: he's an Olan Ryan fastball coming down the gut and

996
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: if you can stop it, great. No, I think all

997
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: the other interior pass rushers don't win with power the

998
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: same percentage of the time he does. You know, not

999
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: that that's all he can do. But I bet if

1000
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: you really nerded out and said bull bull rush win rate,

1001
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: he's probably top of league. After I guarantee you whoever

1002
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: lines up opposite him on a regular basis in a

1003
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: game that night, they're feeling their tie. I mean're doing

1004
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot of like you got a bull rushing.

1005
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean literally, there's no I mean, it's the same

1006
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: thing time and time again. Again, It's not like he

1007
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: does the same rush all the time. But you better

1008
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: have your big boy pads on to go against him

1009
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: snap after snap if you're in the field the next day.

1010
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a couple guards and centers in the

1011
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: league that would rather deal with power than quicks, but

1012
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: there are fewer and far between. Anymore. If you're a big,

1013
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: wide bodied, heavy guy and that's all you can do,

1014
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't play in this league anymore. So power players

1015
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: are the curveball nowadays. You know what I mean. Absolutely, Matt,

1016
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: we are going to take another break. He has, he has,

1017
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: Mett Williamson. I am Dale Lally. That is our one

1018
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: in the books. We have not gotten struck by lightning yet.

1019
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: And well it does look like it's a little clearer

1020
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: out here now. But this is the drive on Steelers

1021
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We are alive from St. Vincent College. We'll

1022
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: be back with our two right after this