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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Ballely Beck.

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Speaker 2: Coming soon to.

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Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 4: Oh, let's do it live on a First Friday Miracle

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Speaker 4: edition merely bow the Great Z. Did you get that

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Speaker 4: sorted out? Since? Nope?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 4: Now you're there?

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Speaker 2: Are you're there? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Buddy?

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Speaker 5: I will say this that one your microphone because yesterday

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Speaker 5: you were not here. Yep, I sat there. I didn't

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Speaker 5: have one issue.

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Speaker 4: In terms of hearing it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like I know that one. I know when that

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Speaker 5: one's on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, immediately, this is it? Because is it because you

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Speaker 4: you're test driving it? Because you're talking first in that scenario.

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Speaker 4: Is it any chance that it's that?

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Speaker 5: No, I just know, like I can, like right now,

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Speaker 5: I have it good though. Right now that tap was good.

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Speaker 5: But yesterday, like that was you knew it couldn't be easy.

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Speaker 5: You knew it was this one. This one can be.

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Speaker 5: It's fickle. This is a fickle fickle bird over here.

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Speaker 4: Very much is very much is? How was how was

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Speaker 4: the Florida Do you have a good time?

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a great weekend. Honestly, we had a it

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Speaker 5: was a great weekend overall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I had a great time down in Florida. Whirlwind you know,

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Speaker 5: you take it. Take a six am flight. They had

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Speaker 5: the kids. Kids bought Mitzvah Saturday night, so that was

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Speaker 5: a great time. And then uh duck kids, Duck kids,

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Speaker 5: Duck kids kid bought Mitzvah Eliza. Uh and so that

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Speaker 5: was a lot of fun. And got to see like

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Speaker 5: some of my uh obviously a lot of people that

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Speaker 5: some of the kids friends who are out of town,

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Speaker 5: the grizz seth so they were all in. So it

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Speaker 5: was just great to see a bunch of those people

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Speaker 5: and I had a great time. Ended up having maybe

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Speaker 5: a little bit more of a party than I intended

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Speaker 5: with a six am flight, but no six.

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Speaker 2: Am wake up.

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Speaker 5: We're we're probably four We were up at yeah, in

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Speaker 5: the four o'clock hour there.

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Speaker 5: And then yeah, got down to Orlando. The weather was perfect,

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Speaker 5: eighty five and sunny. Had the time of our lives.

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Speaker 5: It was great, great, great, great night.

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Speaker 4: It's so warm here that you probably even notice a

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Speaker 5: Well, I sure did when I gave him back the

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Speaker 5: next day, still wearing shorts. Sure, He's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: but it was. It was awesome. Had fun celebrating the

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Speaker 5: Big Daddy. We had a meal at the boat House,

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Speaker 5: which is a Disney spring inches for sure, phenomenal And

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Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, you'll appreciate this. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: I said this on the show yesterday, but if not,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say it again today. Or if I did,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say it again today. So we got

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Speaker 5: these great meals, and then I was sitting myself in

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Speaker 5: So we did that. So we did that, and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really do it right back in.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah. And we had a big Friday night as well.

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Speaker 5: It was really just like a week can just crazy.

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Speaker 5: And so I looked down and George and Jay and

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Speaker 5: take war down here as well. And it was just

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Speaker 5: delicious the second time. And the waiter comes over about

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Speaker 5: The waiter comes over and says, H just got to

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Speaker 4: They were going to still try and do more.

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Speaker 5: Nobody was, but he was just letting us know that

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Speaker 5: This is last call, so right, get it in now.

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Speaker 5: He's like, get it in now, this is last call.

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Speaker 5: Which I felt like that's a sign of a great

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at almost midnight, feels.

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Speaker 5: Like you've done a good job, an incredible line, like

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Speaker 5: and then Scotty's boy J shout out to him, picked

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Speaker 5: up the whole meal. Well, Scotty's Boy J does well apparently,

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Speaker 5: a large. It was large. I have a question, I'll

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Speaker 5: answer it for you. How well were the Nantucket Reds received?

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Speaker 5: Because when I saw the picture, I fell back in

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Speaker 4: Great the scene and this, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and then the red size. Some Buckeye s did.

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Speaker 4: Have some Buckeye sucks, yeah, with a nice black over

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Speaker 4: gotta do. Did you get well received? Very well?

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Speaker 5: Did people? Do people? I imagine people at this Goala would

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, these are Nantucket Reds. I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: I think in this particular setting, yeah, it was known,

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Speaker 4: then everything down there was you know, it was all

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Speaker 5: And I know you probably can't answer this, but I'm curious.

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Speaker 5: I know that there's the real truth and then there's

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Speaker 5: c J. Stroud is the best quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 5: But did you get any real truth beyond like any

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Speaker 5: more insight into strength, sweetnesses, overall fit? What if Ryan

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Speaker 5: Day were selecting number one overall he takes CJ. Stroud? No,

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Speaker 4: The no, I mean it's it's this has been a

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Speaker 5: Pee Prisco has declared that, without question, Will Levis is

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Speaker 5: may have been wrong about things before, but I'm not wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you have been well a great trial.

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Speaker 5: He was eviscerated. Really is Yeah, locked up for life?

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Speaker 4: We took care of Prisco, pushed the chips in.

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Speaker 5: By the way, still pay Pete. It hasn't even it's

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Speaker 5: aged worse, for it was worse years ago. It was bad,

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Speaker 4: unbelievable in retrospect. That and the trial of Pedro were

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Speaker 4: And then it was over. I mean we didn't even

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Speaker 4: have to You ordered the code read, you did none

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Speaker 5: Well we on sweet Pete. We mentally led him around

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Speaker 5: whatever he contradicted himself within five minutes, right, and then

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Speaker 5: it was then it was done, You're done. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: my dad, Pedro Pedro's yeah, didn't have it.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, I mean it's absolutely nonsense. How about this, uh,

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Speaker 4: the Rogers thing happening before? Great, yeah, fantastic. You saw

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Speaker 5: Him and Salah. I felt like that was a strong

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no it is. It's uh.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what My uh, Garrett Wilson Dynasty teams

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Speaker 4: No, not a little bit. No, they'll do just fine

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Speaker 4: on that. They absolutely will.

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Speaker 2: What do we got?

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Speaker 4: I got it? Before I start talking about something else,

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure. Okay, So we have

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Speaker 4: a grievance that I need to hear in regard to

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Speaker 4: AP from his performance yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Just not even Agreement's just absurdity, just lunacy, just pure

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Speaker 5: and total.

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Speaker 4: This is a man who is I believe I did

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Speaker 4: an audible spit take I did yesterday when he when

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Speaker 4: he dropped the Dolphins without to uh higher in the

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Speaker 4: power rankings than the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna had that You're going to find that

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Speaker 5: there is a huge like I gotta see it in

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Speaker 5: in Ape like he's got to see it to believe it.

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Speaker 5: Nothing wrong with that which I told him, I said, Ap,

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Speaker 5: you're never gonna make any money in stock market. You

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Speaker 5: have to You can't invest in something after it's popped.

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Speaker 5: You have to predict. I see, I believe this is

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Speaker 2: But I also think he's basing some of his hot

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, he's not listen. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 5: And guess the stats.

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Speaker 4: Crush him, crush him. Wow, that's one of one.

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Speaker 2: This could be could be a June like like spelling

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Speaker 4: How many hours you got on the radio network tomorrow night?

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Speaker 2: Way too many? What are you?

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Speaker 4: What's the number?

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Speaker 2: Give me that midnight?

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Speaker 4: I believe that's longer than the ESPN coverage and then.

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Speaker 5: At seven, that's gibe.

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Speaker 2: It'll go to about eleven fifteen, eleven thirty. If we

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Speaker 5: Right seven to midnight on Friday, and then ask Gibbe

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Speaker 5: always been noon to three. I've done it for more

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you picked up an extra hour.

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Speaker 5: And the reason was because we have so many seventh

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Any of them going to be on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: What can you be? Can we be nimble?

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Speaker 5: Can we be nimble? Can we be nimble? If we

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Speaker 5: trade out? Can we be nimble?

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Speaker 4: Can you drop an hour?

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Speaker 5: No? So let's say we trade every sixth and seventh

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Speaker 2: Our third round picks will most likely be in the building.

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Speaker 4: Well, you need that extra hour to work that in.

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Speaker 5: Moron just sat there saying moronic thing after Mariah thing

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Speaker 4: Who gets hurt?

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Speaker 5: Nobody, nobody gets hurt.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's incredible though, without giving any spoilers

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Speaker 4: There's no question it did. And maybe he stepped too far.

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Speaker 5: So maybe he's like Larry did, who do you trust

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Speaker 4: Oh my God, just bullied him around the whole time.

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Speaker 5: He didn't bully it, and I again remulously sit up himself.

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Speaker 4: I like chest Well, he's got it back, he's got

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Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe she won't. I think this could

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Speaker 4: And then but she's gonna give him a little bit

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Speaker 5: And Greg is Greg is awful. I'm done with him

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Speaker 4: I don't think that there's any real note for him

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Speaker 5: Well. I read an article on The Economist, Oh really,

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Speaker 2: Did you? Greg?

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Speaker 5: When womsgam sits down and his first opening line just

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Speaker 5: Five times in a row. And then he wonders why

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Speaker 5: Sad, it's sad. Really.

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Speaker 4: The writing's incredible, all right, lots to get to it

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Speaker 4: is the day before the NFL Draft. We will not

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Speaker 2: According to jes right around ten o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Right around ten o'clock, you'll get that that the first

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Speaker 4: liars poker everywhere in the National Football League. Leading into tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: I saw him walking in. I don't think the presser

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Speaker 4: When he showed up, I mean he had the great

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: It It's not like Jordan Love fell to them and

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing that that that you say, though,

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Speaker 5: One of them is going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I think there's nine teams that think are ten teams

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that. So that's ten.

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Speaker 4: Three aren't making the postseason.

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Speaker 5: I'm making the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I'm not ready to just give up this division yet.

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Speaker 4: missing the postseas a.

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Speaker 5: Different backfield, defensive backfield. It's a new defensive backfield.

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Speaker 2: I think they think when you have the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And you have the weapons, Jamar Chase to here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've got to pick at twenty eight, like

445
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Speaker 4: they're not going anywhere.

446
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Speaker 5: They're Gonnay're fine, they're making it.

447
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Speaker 4: So that's five. So that means the rest.

448
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Speaker 5: I'm saying right now, we're making spots. So the rest

449
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Speaker 5: for one spot, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, the rest for one spot. So that's Miami. Look

451
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Speaker 4: at that. Who's out And I didn't give you Herbert

452
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Speaker 4: as an inn.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be into I don't know, because I

454
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Speaker 2: don't trust their coach.

455
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Speaker 4: They're so talented, so talented.

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Speaker 5: I mean, last year they were hurt in ways that

457
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Speaker 5: are almost unfathomable. And that's the thing. That's the only

458
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Speaker 5: part that changes all this. We're saying this is just

459
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Speaker 5: everything being, everything being equal, But the truth is some

460
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Speaker 5: team is gonna get just completely well.

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Speaker 2: And that's facin the NFC QB rankings yesterday, and that's

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Speaker 2: why poisons coming back.

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Speaker 4: Look forward to it. But look at this. Juxtapose that

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Speaker 4: to this. Yeah, and it's not even just the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It starts there, obviously, and it's the most important part,

466
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Speaker 4: but it's the supporting cast. I mean, like I don't

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Speaker 4: have Tua on that list. It's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 4: them to make the postseason. They've got a total Super

469
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Speaker 4: Bowl roster, and their roster is ready made, ready made.

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Speaker 5: If he plays the whole season, they're gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Waddle and Hill.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they just add Jalen Ramsey to their d They're loaded.

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Speaker 4: It's a loaded them making the playoffs if he stays healthy.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you said?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think if you played, if you said that

476
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Speaker 5: he was going to place seventeen to maybe they're the

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Speaker 5: sevens you put us.

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Speaker 4: In, and you put and didn't you put Chargers in?

479
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Speaker 5: That's too many, can't no Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not a guarantee that Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: It's it's hard to go at thirteen and three to

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Speaker 4: nine and eight. Yeah, I mean that's.

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Speaker 2: A well ten you might not make it.

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Speaker 5: They need to expand the playoffs to eight teams.

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Speaker 2: First of all, No, that means no, why not, because

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Speaker 2: that just means more football, more weeks.

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Speaker 4: It would be the same amount of winks.

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Speaker 5: Exact same, just nobody gets a buy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that. I like rewarding

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Speaker 2: at least one team for like.

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Speaker 4: If it's cheaping and the people Jaguars and US. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna get back to this in a second, because it's

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Speaker 4: resonating with me. Lamar, the Dolphins, Wilson would.

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Speaker 5: All be out. It's loaded, dude, it's gonna be this

495
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Speaker 5: is me the most.

496
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Speaker 4: Season seven with Mishmash quarterback last year and all their injuries,

497
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Speaker 4: never had a healthy backfield. They went ten and seven.

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Speaker 5: So ugly though. But yeah, nevertheless, you are what your

499
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Speaker 5: record says you are well last year. That's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's craziness. It's absolutely crazy. Talk give

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Speaker 4: me eight. Eight doesn't change anything anything exact same games.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying like if you go to ten or something,

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Speaker 4: then you changes now you're picking up weeks, but you're

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Speaker 4: not going to pick up weeks with eight.

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Speaker 5: I would say that. I think that most teams, I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure they even want the buye.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just stupid to do it for one team.

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Speaker 5: And there are plenty of teams that lose coming off

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Speaker 5: the buye, right, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 4: It's stupid to do it for one team. Like if

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Speaker 4: you want to do like everyone should, if you want

512
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Speaker 4: to have a couple in the old days when you

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Speaker 4: had like you know, two divisions, yep, two buys, two bys, fine,

514
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Speaker 4: But in now the way it is now with three divisions.

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Speaker 4: I think it's I.

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Speaker 5: Expand to eight teams. Who doesn't want it? It's more compelling,

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Speaker 5: I think. And right now the problem is you would

518
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Speaker 5: have I think if you were to do this honestly

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Speaker 5: today and say that, okay, fourteen teams are going to

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Speaker 5: make the playoffs, and it was just the best fourteen teams,

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Speaker 5: it would be ten AFC teams and four NFC.

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Speaker 4: Teams, well, and even the four to get to your

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Speaker 4: four in the obviously Philly is going to go like

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Speaker 4: sixteen and one like I don't know is Dallas. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're one of the teams you're having is the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers, but their quarterback situation is obviously murky yep,

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Speaker 4: so like Philly for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But then beyond that.

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Speaker 5: Well, Jalen Hurts is the only quarterback that even is

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Speaker 5: in this grouping Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the whole conference, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, eight of the nine best quarterbacks in the league

534
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Speaker 5: are in this conference. And then I would probably argue

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Speaker 5: that of the top twelve, it's at most at least

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Speaker 5: ten of the top twelve, and probably eleven of the

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Speaker 5: top twelve, probably ten of the top twelve. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I put Russ in, Jimmy out, and you have Jalen

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Speaker 5: Hurts and you can pick you know, maybe stand Ef.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, way we forget about him.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, somebody I know forgot about him.

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Speaker 4: The Joe Burrow his fifth year option was picked up. Yes,

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Speaker 4: from what I understand, they are working diligently.

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Speaker 2: To that formality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so they just want to do this. It

546
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Speaker 4: was done before the drafts. I think the deadline's next week,

547
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Speaker 4: but they're they're working on a on a long The

548
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Speaker 4: only thing that nobody really understands down there is is

549
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Speaker 4: it important for Burrow to at some point be the

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Speaker 4: highest paid player in football? In that case, can they

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Speaker 4: get it done before Herbert or does he want Herbert

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Speaker 4: to go first so that he can trumpet? Is that

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Speaker 4: something that even matters to him? If you know? That's

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Speaker 4: the one thing. And then the other thing is like,

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Speaker 4: what do you do with Higgins because he's a twenty

556
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Speaker 4: million dollar a year receiver and does he want to

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Speaker 4: be a number one or is he happy being, you know,

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Speaker 4: perpetually a number two in Cincinnati, although a very good

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Speaker 4: behind one of the best ones. So that's that's kind

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Speaker 4: of where they are as as they head into the

561
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Speaker 4: draft tomorrow. The Washington Commis did not exercise Chase Young's

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Speaker 4: fifty year option, per sources.

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Speaker 5: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I saw Breer this morning about this, and he

565
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Speaker 4: was saying that the injury he suffered was far more

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Speaker 4: complicated than originally thought, that this is more of an

567
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Speaker 4: injury thing than anything else. But I would imagine people

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Speaker 4: will now start making calls on Chase Young. But he's

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Speaker 4: been banged up, has he? I mean, because he got

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Speaker 4: banged up as a rookie. I mean, he's been banged up.

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Speaker 5: I'd take a shot at him, put him on the

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Speaker 5: other side of Miles Garrett and see what see what

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Speaker 5: happens there?

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Speaker 4: Pretty high ceiling, pretty high on all that. Yeah, the

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Speaker 4: deadline is Monday. Still no word on Jed Wills from rper.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna get they're going to pick up his option.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Well, there's your word.

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Speaker 5: I'd be absolutely stunned. So he's still got Chase Young

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Speaker 5: one Pro Bowl, which is rookie season.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 5: I'll get a little guest. The stats in three years

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Speaker 5: in the NFL? How many sacks does Chase Young have?

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Speaker 5: Twenty seven career games?

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Speaker 2: I go twelve sacks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think that's probably not far off.

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Speaker 4: Maybe fifteen nine.

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Speaker 5: Really seven and a half is a rookie year one

588
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Speaker 5: and a half in nine games his second year and

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Speaker 5: then none last year, but only three games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so, yeah, it's a weird one for him.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, does he is he in? He's just

592
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Speaker 4: really never been healthy.

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Speaker 2: You're healthy.

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Speaker 4: He's just never been healthy. Yeah, it sucks, which is

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Speaker 4: aut ability is a big deal. Yeah, got to make

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Speaker 4: sure you are that. He was felt like a sure

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Speaker 4: thing as you'll ever find coming out of Ohio State

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Speaker 4: when he came into that draft, coming off of the

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Speaker 4: two bosas, and a lot of people thought maybe that

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Speaker 4: he was better than both of them. So yeah, but

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Speaker 4: that was surprising to me because the high end talent

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Speaker 4: remains as high as it gets. All right, coming up next,

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Speaker 4: what do we got? We got a little higher lower

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do it with the quarterbacks the NFC, and

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Speaker 4: then we've got airing a grievances with AP as well.

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Speaker 4: All right, one grievance. So you have that to look

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Speaker 4: your spot. Today, ap is here. Our senior staff writer,

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Speaker 4: mister Anthony Poisel is here. So yesterday you guys did

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Speaker 4: what did you guys? Do you did AFC QBS ranking?

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Speaker 5: We did okay, And then a question was do you

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Speaker 5: want it?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to do this? In terms of a trial?

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Speaker 4: Is this the trial of ap Man?

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Speaker 2: That's rough we.

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Speaker 7: Had to I don't think it has had a trial yesterday,

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Speaker 7: I sai ground.

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Speaker 5: I think one way you're also going to the slammer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One is bailiff has taking you away. Yeah, that's all right.

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Speaker 5: Why don't why don't give a Why don't you pose

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Speaker 5: the question to bo Bishop, and just use if you

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Speaker 5: had to pick one quarterback for your franchise to win

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl this year? And then also which quarterback

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Speaker 5: do you believe in more for twenty twenty three? And

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Speaker 5: then name the names and give it. So I don't

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Speaker 5: want to the way that I get questions. We only

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Speaker 5: have one question, which was which question do you believe?

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Speaker 5: It was just a matter of how would you rank

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Speaker 5: the two quarterbacks? It's a group of two quarterbacks for

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Speaker 5: what though? But then I followed up, just who would.

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Speaker 7: You want to be your quarterback for twenty and isolate

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Speaker 7: just one season?

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, and there's I get two choices. Yes,

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Speaker 4: can I know the choices?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Give back, give them the choices.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the choices. Will got my pen. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's ride okay, and Kenny pick it.

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Speaker 5: You didn't yeah, And then he said it's based on

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Speaker 5: what he's seen. Meanwhile, Russell Wilson was better than Kenny

652
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Speaker 5: Pickett in every category last year and he sucked and

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Speaker 5: is two years a year removed, and he's got Sean Payton.

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Speaker 5: It's insane.

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Speaker 7: So I need to set the record straight on a

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Speaker 7: few things here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, we'll be careful. I like you, it's all

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Speaker 4: in the permanent because.

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Speaker 7: Running this so far and it's just like I just

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's gotten distorted as far as what

661
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 7: you how you think I view both of these quarterbacks. Okay,

662
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Speaker 7: So the first thing I need to such right is I

663
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 7: do not think Anny Pickett was a good quarterback.

664
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 5: I think you think Kenny Pickett is better than Russell

665
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: Wilson and you would rather have him be your quarterback

666
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty three. Because that's what you said.

667
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 7: That is what I'm going to say because and.

668
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: I couldn't disagree with you more.

669
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Speaker 2: You didn't.

670
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 7: First off, you didn't let me set the record.

671
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

672
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 7: I do not think a good quarterback last year, and

673
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 7: I am not confident he will become one this year.

674
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 7: And I was not saying he was a playoff QB

675
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 7: like you were alluding to in your.

676
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: Tweet to me this morning.

677
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 7: That's not what I was saying. I do not think

678
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson was a good quarterback last year, and I'm

679
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 7: not confident he will return to one this year. Okay.

680
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 7: Third thing is my basis for putting Picket one spot

681
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 7: ahead of Wilson in the QB rankings is solely because

682
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 7: Pickett is a full ten years younger than Wilson will

683
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 7: be going under a second year with a head coach.

684
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 7: Wilson has a new head coach.

685
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: I feel like he wrote something as a do you

686
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: have a prepared response.

687
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: Hold on a second agent. No, it was for this season.

688
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: It had nothing to do with age or younger. It

689
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: was who's for this season? And you said, Pikett, soose

690
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: age is irrelevant? Irrelevant. This isn't like you're building a

691
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: franchise for the next decade. It's irrelevant. It was for

692
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 5: this season.

693
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and honestly for the next decade.

694
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: I take it.

695
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is Russell Wilson is is he's significantly older.

696
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: He's thirty four.

697
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: I don't want to bank on Russell Wilson having such

698
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 7: a big rebound year when he is at this agent

699
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 7: played terribly last season.

700
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: His terrible last season that you're ascribing to be terrible

701
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: when we looked up, was way better than Kenny Pickett

702
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: last year.

703
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: And you think, can.

704
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: You're banking on Kenny Pickett. You're saying that he's gonna

705
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: bound year two he got.

706
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Kenny didn't have a four rookie season.

707
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's going to go. He his dad

708
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 7: not saying he's gonna go.

709
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: He is.

710
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: He's he's crazy. By the way, you introducing the age

711
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: of this is completely That's why he was probably today,

712
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: but it's for just this year. You're talking about one

713
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: guy versus a nine. You're talking about a guy.

714
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 7: The reason is the guy that in the.

715
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: Four prior for one hundred and forty touchdowns and he

716
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: threw for thirty one interceptions.

717
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 7: The reason why the age is because I don't think

718
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: because of Russe Wilson's age, it's a guarantee that he's

719
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 7: going to battle.

720
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 5: Do you think thirty four is old for a quarterback.

721
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Speaker 7: One who played like Russell Wilson did last year.

722
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: He was still better than picking and everything.

723
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing his here's.

724
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: The horrible coaching. And you may excuse for Doug Peterson

725
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 5: with Trevor Lawrence, and here's Urban Meyer the year before.

726
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: Here's the biggest, the biggest, biggest, I mean there's a thousand,

727
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: but the big issue here is that, like Wilson start

728
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: last year with Hackett, when they had to bring the

729
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: Kobi K's kid, it was to handle the like I mean,

730
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: it was the most inept coaching in the history that

731
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: we've seen in terms of what was being asked on

732
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: a weekly basis from him. Not an offense. It took

733
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: advantage of him at all of his skill set, clearly.

734
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: And we're not Russell Wilson fans, by the way, I'm

735
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 7: not a fan of these two quarterbacks, but just.

736
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: The fact that, like, if your everybody that you loved

737
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: in the world's life was on the line and you

738
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 5: had we'll call it even one game now one season

739
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 5: you would rather go to, You'd pick Kenny Pickett. It

740
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. That's the point. The point is he is

741
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: better than Russell Wilson was.

742
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: What was Mike Seaver's dad and growing pains is at

743
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: Allen's that Alan Thick? Yeah, but what was his name? Like,

744
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: Mike's the kid, Mike's Kirk Cameron. What was the dad's name?

745
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's what you're that's it reminds me

746
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: of like he's Kirk Cameron into some nonsense and his

747
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: pops is over here trying to bail him out. It's tough,

748
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: tough take, tough take, buddy, tough take the as soon as.

749
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 7: Look, if this baked me on the butt, think guess.

750
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: What, I'm okay with it because you also get just

751
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: get well, the best pastor tacos in town. We have

752
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 5: a taco bed on this.

753
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: What we have is a little bit of a trend

754
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: because we did have the Tulus Dolphins better than the

755
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: Bengals from this year in the Power rankings where I

756
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: had a spite and that was bad, a spit take.

757
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: That was also though yesterday had one more Jason sever

758
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 5: Jason in the in the NFC, and this one I

759
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 5: am absently like, well, there was the other one that.

760
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: Was discussed off air as well. So there's a lot.

761
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: There's a lot going on.

762
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: Yep, Matt Stafford versus Jared Goff.

763
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 4: What I don't understand, what are we doing like next year?

764
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: So here in the in the CBS Sports QB rankings,

765
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Jared Goff comes in at number five.

766
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: You're doing that now? Is that's where this is?

767
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

768
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: Stafford's eleven, and he agreed. I said that was. Look,

769
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 5: I made one note on this whole thing. Stafford era up,

770
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 5: this is five. I'd put him at three or two.

771
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: The idea that he won a Super Bowl two years

772
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 4: he was last year he won, he could have won

773
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: the MVP.

774
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 5: He got hurt and still completed sixty eight percent of

775
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 5: his passes last year. Like, I don't know what we're

776
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: talking about. The Rams traded Jared goff and number one

777
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: picks for Matt Stafford and then won a Super Bowl.

778
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: I would have I think you could make a real

779
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: argument a decade ago, and you can't do that. I

780
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: love the other thing you can't do.

781
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: I can't do that.

782
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: What you cannot do is try to guess what someone's

783
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: health will be next year. Everything that you're hearing out

784
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: of LA is that Hefford is good to go and

785
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: ready to go. If that's the case, you could make

786
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: a very strong argument that he she should go one

787
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: in the NFC based on what we saw two years ago.

788
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 4: One still And that's what because my thing with hurts

789
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: is but he's so much of it is scheme predicated. Sure,

790
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: it's it's the perfect situation for the scheme. I love

791
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: Stafford has been elite with everything.

792
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 7: I love God, So like, how much of the scheme

793
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 7: predicated stuff will be factoring in for next year? Though, Like,

794
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 7: I know we're talking about it last, but I'm talking

795
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 7: about quarterback, like we're just taving him and we're just

796
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 7: having one team.

797
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: If you put him on your team, that's where the

798
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: delineation is. You put Matt Stafford on the Jalen Hurts

799
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: is in the best position. You could argue. He's in

800
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: a top five position in the league in terms of

801
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: for him to succeed.

802
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: You put Matt Stafford on the Dolphins right now, there

803
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: they are going a Super Bowl favorite. You put Jared

804
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: Goff on the Dolphins. They're exactly where they are right now.

805
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: And I like Jared Goff. You have to saying I'm

806
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 5: a big Jared GoF guy. I think Jared Goff and

807
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 5: the NFC should be number five. I think he's appropriately rated.

808
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 5: I just think Stafford should be number two field and

809
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 5: you could put golf ahead of Kirk Cousins for all

810
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: I care.

811
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 7: I'm not saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I'm

812
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 7: not saying you're wrong for making an argument for Matt Stafford.

813
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 7: I see, I see your guys' argument.

814
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: How do they have I I've never seen him do

815
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 4: anything like we've seen Kyler dominate. He should be hired.

816
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 5: Listen, your golf one is not as crazy as Kenny

817
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: Pickett and Russell Wilson.

818
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 7: Okay, I can live with that.

819
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is crazy.

820
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: I can live with that.

821
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 7: And I mean Goff is good.

822
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 5: That's why I was Strafford's staff golf last year sixty

823
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: twenty nine touchdowns.

824
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: Arry Jones would trade Dak Prescott for Matt Stafford yesterday.

825
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, in a millisecond, he would do that trade

826
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: right now.

827
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: The Lions would do it, and they just said, we

828
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 5: can just swap. You can give us back Matt Stafford

829
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: and for Goff. They would do that.

830
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: A healthy Stafford would be traded by every team in

831
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: the NFC for next year except for Philly.

832
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 5: Do you think the Steelers? What if the Denver Colt said, hey,

833
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson for Kenny Pickett one for one, you think

834
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 5: what say?

835
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 7: I just think I know I want me to get

836
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 7: I'll say.

837
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 5: GM poise l Boysel says, sorry, shop not interested.

838
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: We're not riding.

839
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: And by the way, don't like Russell Wilson. I've so

840
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: much about him. My fine off putting.

841
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: He's a little yeah, I mean.

842
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: The outtakes from the subway commercial were cringe. Yeh. But

843
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 5: he's better in camp.

844
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: There's got to be more to him though, like he

845
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 4: did land Siara more.

846
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 5: Like what two hundred million.

847
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not like she was hurting like she

848
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: was the future before.

849
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 5: Like she's must be charming. Maybe he's charming.

850
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: Maybe he is. Oh I know what it is. I

851
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: remembered what it was. Oh yeah, all right, so the well,

852
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: just I don't even I thought of it.

853
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 5: Where are we go the I don't even want to know.

854
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is the biggest thing between these

855
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: two that you look at is just the golf is

856
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: the grand Canyon in talent. It's just it's absolutely brutal.

857
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: It's just brutal. Like the Eagles are set up to

858
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: go fifteen and two for the I mean, they're gonna

859
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 4: just just go to the super Bowl.

860
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: Put him in.

861
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, look at the two sevens on this list, like

862
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson versus that to me is where it's most

863
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 7: I mean, you could really pick any number.

864
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: Derek Car's the fine, but when you go yeah.

865
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: Like John Watson, Danny Dimes, Jalen Hurts is the only

866
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers Gino Smith.

867
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is the only one in the top ten

868
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL that is in the NFC. Maybe Stafford

869
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: would be next.

870
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: Healthy Stafford, I would have him too, and then Prescott

871
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: three yep, I would. I know, like I love Fields,

872
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: but I gotta see him throwing it more consistently, like

873
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 4: if I'm trying to win next year, I like golf

874
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 4: more than fields.

875
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 5: By the way, our guy being below Sam Howell sight

876
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: unseen is I.

877
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 7: Was gonna say, why Sam how not six?

878
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: How many six behind him?

879
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 7: How many thros Sam Howell temp? Last year? It's like

880
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 7: one game, right?

881
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: Did he even start again? Should look thought? Maybe he

882
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: started the game after we knocked them out.

883
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: And this, at the end of the day is what

884
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: I go back to Atlanta. You really don't need Lamar.

885
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: That's idiotic. They should be You're quarters running over They

886
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 5: should be like falling over themselves to try to get

887
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 5: him well, which is ridiculous.

888
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 4: To I'll tell you this if I'm them, if I

889
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: hope all the CJ. Stroud stuff's real and he does slip,

890
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: and I would love it for him too. I'd love

891
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: for him to go to Atlanta.

892
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: Uh A. Mike Florio, Mike Florio's mock this morning has

893
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: him home run in Atlanta.

894
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: He's not going, That's the best spot. That's the best spot.

895
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: That scheme, those weapons. If somehow he were to drop

896
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: to eight in a dome in a dome in a

897
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 4: garbage division, yeah, that's.

898
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: They should get Lamar and then are the favorites to

899
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: win that division immediately.

900
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: It's Cody Benjamin. I don't know this Cody Benjamin character

901
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: is if he's going to wrote it, how do you

902
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: have how are you going to have Kyler twelve? It's

903
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: Stafford eleven behind Jordan Love. It's crazy behind Lance and Perty.

904
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: You know, Kyle, if you said, Kyle, you can have

905
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: Stafford next year or Perty and Lance? Come on, come on.

906
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: Even the everybody packers, Giants, Saints, see, everybody would pick Stafford.

907
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: Over AFC list isn't bad, although I would still put

908
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 5: Russ ahead of Tua and Garoppolo. Lawrence is too high,

909
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: but I agree, I drop Lawrence down. I put Watson

910
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 5: up higher because you're going for next year.

911
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 4: You're not going it's just this harder over there.

912
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just loaded. But this NFC list is absurd. Yeah,

913
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 5: it's pretty bad.

914
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: And I would also say not only for Atlanta, but Houston,

915
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: who seems destined to take a non QB at pick

916
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: number two. Yeah, I would also ask you, what in

917
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: the hell are you thinking you're gonna run out Davis Mills.

918
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: You gotta run that out there because he's currently sixteen.

919
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 7: Like, are they hoping to get the first overall pick

920
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 7: again or another first overall pick next year?

921
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: If you do, that's a that's an ownership conversation, and

922
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: you have to be willing to suffer the slings and

923
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: arrows that comes with one in sixteen or two and

924
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: fifteen or something like that that guarantees you're getting because

925
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: next year it's going to be a race to the bottom, right,

926
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's there's three really two elite and maybe

927
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: three elite quarterbacks in next year's draft. Like you're not,

928
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: you can't. That's a lot to stomach. And in football,

929
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: when it's physical, it's hard to get beat man.

930
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 5: Yes, So both Odell Beckham and tweets yeah, and Lamar

931
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: Jackson made cryptic tweets. Lamar's was last night, right yeah,

932
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: and then today Odell said book them with a lot

933
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: of excitement.

934
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 7: Did Josina tweet something too?

935
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: Did she?

936
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 7: I thought I saw a comment?

937
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: What did she say?

938
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Just before I hop in here?

939
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: I think I think I said Monday on the show

940
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: that I would be shocked if both Rogers wasn't dealt

941
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: and the Ravens didn't have certainty by tomorrow. Well, and

942
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: one eye one nailed, and well it's gotta get done.

943
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: An organization to go into the draft without knowing who

944
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: the quarterback.

945
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 7: Is, well, I want I don't know if that has

946
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 7: to do with the quarterback. My first re action was,

947
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 7: you know, there's rumors that they are going after Hopkins,

948
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 7: and you know, is that that who is the Ravens. Yeah,

949
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 7: it's just.

950
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: An arms race, man. Uh, I don't know. To me,

951
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 5: it always made sense to your point on the timing,

952
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: and to our point, we always said basically that we

953
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: felt he was either going to play for the Ravens

954
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: or he wasn't playing or nowhere. Yeah, I don't think

955
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 5: he's plain anywhere else.

956
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, two choices is the way that that thing was

957
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: going to go. So, yeah, it wouldn't be surprised. All right,

958
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: Well you survived. Hey, they're great survives.

959
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 7: Trial's over trials.

960
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I need you to drop a few

961
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: of these.

962
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 5: We're just gonna you're just on You're.

963
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: On our draft coverage you're just.

964
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: On parole for a little while, but you're out and about.

965
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there were charges, yeah, work release in various states. Yes,

966
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: you have to be careful.

967
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 5: We'll see. I don't know how welcome. I don't know welcome.

968
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 5: He's going to be in Denver. And by the way,

969
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: also your other take to which I thought was interesting,

970
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: which is piggybacks on the rust take, you're not so

971
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 5: he's not so sure Sean Payton still got it.

972
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's still got it. No, not sure

973
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: about the fast But I said that Jason Seegars back.

974
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 7: I said, I'm not I'm saying I'm not Russell wil

975
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 7: which I don't think. I don't know Russell will be

976
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 7: able to fix all the airs that Russell Wilson had

977
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 7: last year.

978
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Guy and one final day.

979
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: I think that they think they're gonna they are going

980
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: to be much better than I think they.

981
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: They think they're going to be a super Bowl contender. Yeah,

982
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: so what I think they think?

983
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, Country, don't they have a couple of ones this

984
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: year too. They traded brand I don't even think they

985
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: have they have the Miamis.

986
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: They do have Miami's.

987
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 7: I'm pretty certain they don't have a first round pick.

988
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 7: Was the Miami one next year? Yeah, because they traded

989
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 7: for Miami's ones got forfeited, So not.

990
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: The one they traded though they traded.

991
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: They don't. It's the Saints. Miami's one is to the

992
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: Saints via San Francisco through Miami in Denver. Does it

993
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: makes sense?

994
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

995
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: When they traded Chubb, they got a one for him.

996
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 5: It was from the original Niners deal for Trey Lance.

997
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: So then what so they drafted the three ones they got,

998
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: They drafted Waddle, they traded one for Tyreek Hill, and

999
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: they traded one for Chubb. The Chubb one was to Denver.

1000
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: So then how did Denver get it to the Saints?

1001
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: Who would they have? Who do they trade for?

1002
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1003
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: AP's on it. I look at him. He's studious. By

1004
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: the way, Kudos d Pete nailed it. They don't have

1005
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 5: a first round pick.

1006
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: No one got that one, right, Bud you he's keeping up.

1007
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 5: He's caution flammable.

1008
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 4: Coming up next second hour, we'll rank every number one

1009
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: pick in the twenty first century.

1010
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 5: It was good fun for everyone.

1011
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: We're going behind enemy lines and Cincinnati as we continue,

1012
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh baby, in the NFL with the natty Jay Morrison

1013
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: going to join us at the bottom of the hour.

1014
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: I thought I was obaby and for bending baby.

1015
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, Zig and Zag. I can

1016
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 4: have more than that as well. So lots lots of

1017
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: forward to here. Let's set clear. The Brons Daily brought

1018
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,200
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1019
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,360
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1020
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet coming

1021
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1022
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: NFL Draft tomorrow, Aaron Rodgers being introduced right now with

1023
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: the Jets. Would it be would it be something if

1024
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: Green Bay took Smith and Jigba at thirteen in the

1025
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: Pig There.

1026
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 5: Is speculation that that's why they moved out Patriots.

1027
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, got a spike gat good and can's just sticking

1028
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 4: it to him. By the way they did it, they

1029
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 4: did all this right. We talked about that, like they

1030
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: wouldn't be in the spot if they just draft a

1031
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 4: receiver then you know, by.

1032
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: The way, you and I were just reading the most outrageous.

1033
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: Mock draft in the world, trulyable.

1034
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 5: And there are one of my favorite somebody who quote

1035
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: tweeted and said it. He knows ball, deal with it.

1036
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 5: The most important mock of the season, do you ever

1037
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: miss I'm amazing, just amazing content.

1038
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: Good job, good job out of him. This from the

1039
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: number one. It's gonna be Young, right, yeah, Like that's

1040
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: the way it's gonna go. Bryce Young goes one.

1041
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 4: The time we're all said and done, So what do

1043
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: we have here? Give me? This is a This is

1044
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: a CBS Sports ranking of the all time number one

1045
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: picks or this this century. You're not no Mike, no Mike,

1046
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: No Mike, no Mike.

1047
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 5: It'd be great if you had ane irolight.

1048
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: It's more fun to do it this way.

1049
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: Okay, this is already.

1050
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: Ranking every number one pick in the twenty first century.

1051
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: I saw this Burrow eleven.

1052
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 8: Hold on, it's this list is absurd. Yes, I think

1053
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 8: they just come up with the craziest these humans. Right

1054
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 8: for CBS, this is great. He's got Lawrence twenty.

1055
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's only played for two years. Longevity, it matters

1056
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 5: to him so much.

1057
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: He's got to see it. He's like Poisel, got to

1058
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: see it.

1059
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 5: I'm sorry though, but like Trevor, Lawrence's career is already

1060
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: better than David carrs he's got Trevor behind. It's already

1061
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 5: better than guy our guy. It's better than Jamis's.

1062
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, all right, Tyler fourteen, he's

1063
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 4: look where Miles is. Miles should be the highest rated

1064
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: non quarterback on the list.

1065
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: Somehow they have Mario Williams ahead of them.

1066
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: Do they know they haven't? Oh they do, they do

1067
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: Mario Williams ahead of him. Miles should be the number

1068
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: one on quarterback. He's got Stafford three.

1069
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: At least, it's like a multiple time Pro bowler and

1070
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: All Pro and.

1071
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: Right, but Miles. So they got Eli Manning.

1072
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: He's there.

1073
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: They're saying Eli Manning is the best number one overall

1074
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: pick because of the two Super Bowl Super Bowls, Eli,

1075
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: how about this one. Let's do this. By the way,

1076
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: Stafford's got one, He's third. If you were to how

1077
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: do you feel about this? Jimmy Butler? Himmy Butler is

1078
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: to the NBA playoffs what Eli Manning is to the

1079
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: NFL playoffs. It feels like Butler elevates in the playoffs.

1080
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: I'm not a problem with that.

1081
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: Most championships yet for him, but he's not. But he

1082
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: had fifty six the other night and just three one. Yeah,

1083
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: I know it's crazy, but yeah, if let's do this exercise,

1084
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: if you if you were redrafting the NFL, all of

1085
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: these rafts, all these guys are the same age coming out,

1086
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: and it's most interesting with the quarterbacks. Okay, and you

1087
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: got any one of these guys at their prime, who

1088
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: would go number one? Cam, Cam would go ahead of

1089
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: Luck for this prime.

1090
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 5: Camera Luck and then probably Burrough's got it back way

1091
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 5: up there.

1092
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: Stafford, Stafford Burrough.

1093
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 5: Carson Palmer, Yeah, Cars, Palmer's pretty good. Yeah, probably yeah, Luck,

1094
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: But I mean Cam's peak would be then his MVP season, right, Like,

1095
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: how is he the only who else has won MVP

1096
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: on here? Nobody has, I think, only Cam, right, Yeah,

1097
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: I mean that's he was the MVP that year. He

1098
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 5: was seventeen and one. He had fourteen rushing touchdowns. He

1099
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 5: threw for thirty five touchdown. In twenty fifteen, he ran

1100
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: for fourteen touchdowns. He threw thirty five touchdowns and just

1101
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: ten interceptions. First player in league history to throw for

1102
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 5: thirty five touchdowns and run for ten or more in

1103
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: the same seasons.

1104
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: I forget that. Michael Vick was in two thousand and one.

1105
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah, he used number six on this list.

1106
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, well his I mean that you want to talk

1107
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: about Apex, I mean Michael Vicks, he had to finish

1108
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: top three in an MVP.

1109
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 5: His ape I mean, you're it's it's pretty good group

1110
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 5: because the Apex cam probably had the best single year.

1111
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: Luck probably would be maybe had you could argue was

1112
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: the best quarterback.

1113
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: Stafford was pretty damn good.

1114
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 5: Stafford was very good.

1115
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: Palmer was great before Kimmy von All often shredded his knee.

1116
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: He was incredible. Yeah, and then res and Burrow's last

1117
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: two years have been historic.

1118
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: That year he led the NFL in touchdown passes and

1119
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 5: completion percentage, which a long time ago. That's a long

1120
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: time two thousand and five, thirty two touchdowns sixty eight

1121
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: percent was pretty dark.

1122
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: Who's that Palmer Palmer? Yeah?

1123
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 5: And then at thirty six in twenty fifteen, thirty six

1124
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: years old, sixty four percent fourth, six hundred and seventy

1125
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 5: one yards, thirty five touchdowns, eleven pixel in the Cardinals

1126
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 5: NFC title game. Yeah, I mean it's a good group.

1127
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: I think the fact that the Bengals have picked number

1128
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: one overall twice at quarterback and ended up with Palmer

1129
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: and Burrow.

1130
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 5: It's pretty good, pretty pretty good. I mean, I think

1131
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: Miles is the best non quarterback on.

1132
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: The same He's the clear should been the highest ranked.

1133
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean, how in the heck can you have Alex

1134
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: Smith ahead of Burrow Because he's been ahead of I mean,

1135
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: honestly of Goffs ahead.

1136
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 5: Of they've both been to Super Bowl. It's just I think,

1137
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 5: as he's been around longer, I think he puts way

1138
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: too much on longevity. I mean, Alex Smith was a

1139
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 5: very good quarterback who was in the league for very long.

1140
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: Here's the problem is, here's the problem without with Alex Smith.

1141
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: In both instances when they went to the quarterback behind him,

1142
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 4: the team got better.

1143
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: Kaepernick and Mahomes and Mahomes.

1144
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, individual success in accolade teams success, longevity, that's.

1145
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: What he took in a longevity.

1146
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: So the two super bowls with Eli Manning are the

1147
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: trump thing, and he was awesome in those Super Bowl runs.

1148
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 4: But those two defenses were also pretty spectacular.

1149
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 5: There's twenty three players on here. Yeah, using whatever criteria

1150
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 5: you and I want, let's draft those twenty three players

1151
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 5: in order, starting at one. If you'd like to have

1152
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 5: the first pick. You can have the first pick.

1153
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: Are we picking them out of coming out of college?

1154
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 4: Or what their NFL careers were?

1155
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 5: The peak, their peak, their peak, their peak, and you

1156
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 5: can do whatever you want with it. Like what you're

1157
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 5: taking these people you get to have them is to

1158
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 5: start your franchise at their whatever that'll be. I think

1159
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: this will be a more interesting exercise.

1160
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I would go Luck one.

1161
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 5: Okay, so you'll take Luck. I'll take Cam all right.

1162
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: We don't have to snake it because this is just yeah, it's.

1163
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: Just just take too long. I would go I'd go

1164
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 4: Stafford two.

1165
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 5: All right, and I will take Joe Burrow.

1166
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: I would then take I take Palmer, I take Carson Palmer.

1167
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I will take Eli Vic and I will now

1168
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 5: take first non quarterback. I'll take Miles to Garrett.

1169
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: And I gotta get down in this list a little bit.

1170
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 2: Again. Trevor Lawrence at number twenty.

1171
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: If anyone's interested, Oh god, that's right, I would have

1172
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: Lawrence then Lawrence. I didn't even I forget he's down there.

1173
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 4: That's so ridiculous, Lawrence.

1174
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 5: It's just one good year is the only issue. But yeah, right,

1175
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 5: like come on, I hear Forecastle. Can't we Yeah, I

1176
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: mean I would have taken him. I took Eli over him,

1177
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 5: because Eli one, you know you can win Super Bowl. Eli.

1178
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 5: You've seen it, You've seen it, and you've seen it.

1179
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: Uh Golf. I mean, well now you're starting to get it.

1180
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Kyler.

1181
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 4: Kyler should be off. I mean I I don't think

1182
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: that's all on him. Some of it is, but like

1183
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 4: there's you've seen him be almost unstoppable. Fact we've seen

1184
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: the roof of him is.

1185
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: He's not going to be in my franchise. So I'll

1186
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 5: take uh Winston. I'll take Mario Williams. Mario was all Pro,

1187
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: multiple time pro bowler.

1188
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: I'll go Jake Long, Jake.

1189
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: Long, Sam Bradford's still out there.

1190
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: All right, fine, I'll take Kyler.

1191
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: I had done. I didn't know Eric Fisher was a

1192
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: number one overall.

1193
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: That was a rough year.

1194
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 4: Yes, thirteen, I got I got Goth.

1195
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 5: I'll take GoF Yeah, I'll take Alex Smith, Bradford, Bradford,

1196
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: oh man, And now at this point, now I feel like.

1197
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: It's now it starts get slippery.

1198
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: Now it's now it's not great.

1199
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: Bradford had had a couple of heater seasons, though he

1200
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: had just had so many injuries.

1201
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd probably take at this point, i'd probably take Clowney.

1202
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: Clowney still had some very good years.

1203
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, now you're in the now.

1204
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1205
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So that's our first that's the first

1206
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: six team.

1207
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's pretty remarkable how many

1208
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: it's pretty good through ten. Yeah, it's really good. Like

1209
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: a lot of those guys were dudes, but.

1210
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 5: That's less than fifty percent.

1211
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 4: It's that it's nature versus nurture lodge. You gotta have both.

1212
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: It's not just one, you know, it really is.

1213
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: When you say lodge lodge, who are you referring to

1214
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: the uh.

1215
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: The commerce secretary. It's walking in wedding crash versus nurture lodge.

1216
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: Nature always wins. He would be my favorite lodge. Then

1217
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: my second favor would be it wasn't it Roger Lodge?

1218
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: Roger lodge Man. That guy had a nice spirit to him.

1219
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 4: I liked that guy.

1220
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 5: He would did it was that show. It was a

1221
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 5: dating show, wasn't it? It was a dating show Roger

1222
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: And it was the one where they would like follow

1223
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 5: in their like bubbles.

1224
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good one.

1225
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 5: It was a great one.

1226
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: That was good.

1227
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1228
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: Oh Roger Lodge, Yeah, Roger Lodge. Here we go, there

1229
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: you go, all right, we'll hit the you figure that out.

1230
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: We'll get to the categories. Blind date, Oh yeah, blind

1231
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: my date.

1232
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: It was. What a show that was?

1233
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: It was good? Yeah, great show. Cincinnati Bengals. As we

1234
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: continue our tour, they are picking at twenty eight overall.

1235
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,560
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Speaker 4: the apple of our eye today, my friend, as we

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Speaker 4: continue our tour around the National Football League this offseason,

1251
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: heading into the draft, which starts to the Bengals are

1252
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: coming off of two straight seasons of I mean, this

1253
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: is a golden era to be a Bengals fan. They've

1254
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: got the two great time. Every box is checked. It's interesting.

1255
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 4: It's not even just on the field with Burrow and

1256
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: all of that, but the little things. Fans have always wanted.

1257
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 4: The white Bengal helmet, they've wanted that forever. The Ring

1258
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: of Honor, They've got that done. So they're doing a

1259
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: lot to keep their fans. They're doing an indoor. All

1260
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 4: these things are happening down there for them. All right,

1261
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: let's hit the categories of the Bengals and we'll get

1262
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 4: some perspective with Jay Morrison in just a couple of minutes. Uniforms,

1263
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: keep them, change them, if change what variation.

1264
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: They're great. I love what they've done with the new uniforms,

1265
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 5: and I love that white out with the white helmet.

1266
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 5: I love that. I think they are great. Uniforms beautiful.

1267
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 5: I like them classic Cincinnati Bengals. Very good, very good.

1268
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're you know sometimes I you look at that

1269
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: stripe and I that striped helmet, and I don't know

1270
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: if I'm crazy about it, but it's it's just so

1271
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: what they are and what they've been for our whole lives,

1272
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: and it's such a unique look, like no one else

1273
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: has anything quite like it. And by getting rid of

1274
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: the piping and all that for so long, they now

1275
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: have a really clean look that really works. And I

1276
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: love the white one. I also think like they're they're

1277
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 4: black is awesome too, Like they're all black is really

1278
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 4: really good looking. So yeah, they it works, It all works.

1279
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind them every now and again throwing the

1280
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 5: old school helmet that just said Bengals on it, Yeah,

1281
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 5: because I thought it was so silly that would be

1282
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind that either.

1283
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: Well that's Paul Brown. I mean he just basically took

1284
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: the Browns home and put Bengals.

1285
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 5: On Beangals on it.

1286
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: That was it. Yeah.

1287
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 5: Stadium the worst, probably the worst in the league.

1288
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: It's really Yeah, I was trying to think of one worse.

1289
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: It's hard to find it's Yeah, it's not great. It

1290
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: is not the worst of the league.

1291
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 5: What's worse Washington, Okay, worse than the AFC.

1292
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: Jacksonville.

1293
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 5: Jacksonville's cool. I think Jacksonville's cool.

1294
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this like Cincinnati's is just concrete.

1295
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: It's all it is.

1296
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: That's all it is.

1297
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, jackson has just got the pools.

1298
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think board experience. Yeah yeah, from a even

1299
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: from a press box. The Jacksonville press box always fine

1300
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: unless it's changed.

1301
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it's okay.

1302
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 4: And all that.

1303
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 2: Cincinnati, I mean, we just have a giant booth in Cincinnati. Yeah,

1304
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: it's pretty nice.

1305
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: Oh on you guys. They took care of you guys. Yeah. Yeah,

1306
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 4: road trip to Cincinnati. Yes, absolutely, hit up on Malley's

1307
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 4: in the alley, Jeb pick A, Ruby's joint. Man, they're

1308
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: all good. Yeah, all of them are good. You're right

1309
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 4: across the water from Kentucky. You want to go bourbon hunting,

1310
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 4: you can do it there.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: It's not a great drive, and as someone who did

1315
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Speaker 4: a decent portion of it yesterday, it is one that

1316
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 4: is littered with Ohio's finest So keep your speed to

1317
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 4: a minimum because they are at every single turnout, every

1318
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 4: single one. Why is that, I don't know, but they're

1319
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: they're always. Yeah, yeah, I crush it, absolutely crush it.

1320
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: The player you want from their current roster, where did

1321
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase?

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase, Yeah, that's it, that's it. Then t Higgins Yeah,

1323
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 5: and then Trey Hendrickson. Yeah, we have a quarterback otherwise

1324
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: which otherwise Borough?

1325
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 4: But yes, no, I mean you would want the two.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing how they I mean, you can't say sumbled

1327
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: into it because everything that they did from a draft

1328
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 4: standpoint all adds up. One benefits another another and another.

1329
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: Like it feels like it was all done in a

1330
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: coordinated effort. It takes so much luck to be able

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: to land on all of that, and like t Higgins

1332
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: falling to the second round for them, it's such a

1333
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: remarkable thing.

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Speaker 5: First pick of the second round. But yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

1335
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Speaker 4: I mean it's like he was great at Clemson. Yeah,

1336
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: did we need must say, must thing to do on

1337
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 4: a road trip down there? What we did? We gave

1338
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: you the restaurants and stuff, so you sort of that out.

1339
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: It's a fun little city. It's ten years ago, I

1340
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: would not have said that A lot has changed with

1341
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: how they've developed certain parts of town and that waterfront

1342
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: now it's a nice little it's a fun town.

1343
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 4: Well, there were a lot of similarities because for the

1344
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: longest time they were much like us, and that they

1345
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 4: were like, actually waterfront, eh, who needs it?

1346
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: Who needs it?

1347
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: I mean they put those stadiums on there, but they

1348
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: didn't do any development. So all of a sudden they

1349
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: had to look across the river at Kentucky and go, oh,

1350
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 4: why are people going across there to live and to

1351
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: get everything that we can just do over here. And honestly,

1352
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: all three of the major cities in Ohio really botched

1353
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 4: the waterfront they have I mean Columbus same, I mean,

1354
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 4: they got a river run right through downtown. They've tried

1355
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: everything to make a click. It's just they're finally better

1356
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: off now than they were. But like twenty five years ago,

1357
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 4: you think about how we how all the waterfronts were botched,

1358
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 4: it's pretty wild.

1359
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 5: It is all time favorite player, probably peak Ocho Cinco.

1360
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 5: He was so much fun, so much fun when he

1361
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 5: had like the list of the quarterbacks and all the

1362
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 5: cornerbacks and all the citations the gold Jacket. He was great.

1363
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: He was so much fun.

1364
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: Hushman Zada simply for the main great fun.

1365
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: I mean you had him. Hushman's on Chris Henry ri

1366
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: Ip gone too soon. His son.

1367
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: I think his son's a dude. He's like a receiver

1368
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 4: down there. Who's at Ohio State last week? Yeah, he's

1369
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 4: his son's and his daughter too. I think she's a

1370
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 4: basketball player. Wow, it could be going to a high state,

1371
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 4: I'd say, Ocho Sinco. I also enjoyed h John Kittner.

1372
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 4: He felt like he would fight anybody on the team

1373
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: at any moment. They were pretty fun on I mean

1374
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: everybody was fun on super Techmo but Ikey Woods and

1375
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 4: James Brooks.

1376
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: James Brooks.

1377
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 5: I also enjoyed the the Jeff Blake Moonball era.

1378
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Carl Pickens. Carl Pickens, Yeah, sure, that was

1379
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. I mean, mine's Burrow just because

1380
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: I've known him since he was in the eighth grade. Yeah,

1381
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: so he's a good dude. Playoff team clearly contender, yep,

1382
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: absolutely biggest offseason addition loss. It was feeling like a

1383
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 4: long time for a while. It felt like that they

1384
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: you blew it, boy, This offseason Hurst walk Bell walked.

1385
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they thought some of that would happen,

1386
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 4: but not all of it. Baits baits, and then all

1387
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you stumble into Orlando Brown. You go, oh,

1388
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: that feels like a pretty big win for them.

1389
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.

1390
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, get in Orlando Brown's certainly the best thing that

1391
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 5: they did, no doubt. Earth Smith Junior is a cheap

1392
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 5: little tight end who I think could could help filling.

1393
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 5: But I wouldn't be surprised if they draft they weapon

1394
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 5: tight end in the first round. That's where a lot

1395
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 5: of people seem to think that they are. I think

1396
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 5: they're probably overall a little bit worse than they were

1397
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 5: at the end of last.

1398
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 4: Year before the draft.

1399
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1400
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll see if they have three corners, you know,

1401
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: like they have their corners, but they don't have the fourth,

1402
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: so they really need a corner.

1403
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 5: You need a woozy a to come back from being

1404
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 5: from a pretty significant injury. Although he was very good

1405
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 5: earlier in the year, you need him to come back.

1406
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 5: They got the guy, Cam Taylor Britt. I want to say,

1407
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 5: if they drafted in the second round last year and

1408
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 5: then Hilton and then Hilton's in the in the slot.

1409
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 5: Don't want to put the choral fest. Their safety. They're

1410
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: counting on Dax Hill. I mean they planned for it.

1411
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 5: They drafted a corner the second round last year, and

1412
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: they drafted a safety in the first round last year.

1413
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 5: Their other safety right now is Nick Scott. So their

1414
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 5: safety room is not what it was a year ago,

1415
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 5: and their depth in everywhere on the defensive backfield is

1416
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: not non existent really, but they're still tough up front. Hubbard,

1417
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 5: reader Hill, hendrickson the linebackers. They got Pratt back, They've

1418
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 5: got Logan Wilson.

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: We'll see it.

1420
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 5: Just can the young guys play safety in corner the

1421
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 5: way they need him to? They need because Bell and

1422
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 5: Bates were pretty good tandem.

1423
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: They were.

1424
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Speaker 4: They have a specific need to in this draft, I

1425
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 4: think to where they need their And here's the deal, though,

1426
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 4: like they've hit on their picks other than offensive line

1427
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: where they had Jonah Williams and Billy Price and Jackson Carmen.

1428
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 4: Outside of the offensive line where they just have a

1429
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 4: blind spot, everything else in the draft they've.

1430
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 5: Crushed recently, They've done a good job.

1431
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 4: So I really have they've, like you said, they plan

1432
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 4: for things, and so they pick it twenty eight. Like

1433
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 4: could they trade back into the second round and pick

1434
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: up another two. I think that would be an interest

1435
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: to them. If there's somebody who wants, you know, a

1436
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 4: hand and hooker sliding or something like that, that would

1437
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 4: be something where I could see them being a little

1438
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: bit nimble.

1439
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: Who who do people kind of have them?

1440
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 4: Most people have them mocked a tight end tight ends,

1441
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 4: But like Duke Tobin this week when he spoke, he's like, look,

1442
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: we ranked, We're gonna rank them one through twenty eight,

1443
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: and we're just gonna be honest to the board. Like

1444
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 4: their feeling is like, I don't know, would they do

1445
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 4: they feel like they have to take a tight end

1446
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 4: to twenty eight or if if a d N fell,

1447
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: would they take that? Like they might? You know.

1448
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 5: So this is kind of a round up. So it's

1449
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 5: got running back, some defensive line play Dalton Kinka that

1450
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 5: the and then the safety Brian Branch from Alabama.

1451
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's safety, it's tight end, it's corner yep.

1452
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: Like those are kind of the big the big need

1453
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 4: points for them, and then they'll they'll have to restructure mixing.

1454
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 4: That's the other part of it they'll redo his deal

1455
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 4: because he's not more drag. But he's at Mini Camp.

1456
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 4: Mixing's at Mini Camp, so you know he's he's there,

1457
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 4: So that's something. We'll get some perspective on all of

1458
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 4: this from Jay Morrison to the Athletic, he joins us.

1459
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1466
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Speaker 4: to Cincinnati and the Bengals. And when you talk Bengals,

1467
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Speaker 4: you sure like to do it with Jay Morrison. He's,

1468
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 4: of course with the Athletic. He joins us on the

1469
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Speaker 4: thanks so much for taking the time. Let's just start

1472
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: with kind of a state of the state where the

1473
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 4: Bengals are obviously working on a Borough extension. We saw

1474
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 4: that fifth year picked up Higgins, still under contract but

1475
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: probably wanting an extension. There, you got the draft coming up,

1476
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: lost some guys in free agency, added some guys in

1477
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 4: free agency. In terms of where they are now right now,

1478
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 4: are they better off than they were a year ago

1479
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: at this time? Are they better off than they were

1480
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: at the end of the season.

1481
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 6: I think they are better than what they were a

1482
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 6: year ago, and then maybe better than what they were

1483
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 6: at the end of the season if a couple of

1484
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 6: those guys that are injured actually that are expected to

1485
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 6: come back, actually do come back. The Orlando Brown signing

1486
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 6: was it was a huge one that they need to

1487
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 6: keep working on this offensive line, and they put a

1488
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 6: lot of resources into it. You feel pretty good about

1489
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 6: where it's at right now. Safety is not an ideal position,

1490
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 6: losing those guys, you're right, But anytime you've got Burrow

1491
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 6: and Chase and Higgins and Boyd and right now still mixing.

1492
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 6: They they've got almost all the key pieces back except

1493
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 6: for the safeties, and they addressed that last year in

1494
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 6: the first round with dack Hild. They think he's ready

1495
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 6: to step right in.

1496
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 5: When you look at this team today, how do you

1497
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,879
Speaker 5: feel like it it compares to the team that finished

1498
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 5: the season last year?

1499
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's a good question because last year

1500
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 6: when they finished their offensive line, all five guys started

1501
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 6: the first fifteen games, and then it was one by one.

1502
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 6: It was the dominoes, just one by one, another guy

1503
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 6: would go down each week, and by the time they

1504
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 6: got to Kansas City and the FC Championship game, there

1505
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 6: was a lot of backups in there. So the assumption

1506
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 6: that those guys will all be back and healthy, that's

1507
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 6: I think that's the key element that makes them better

1508
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 6: than what they were at the end of last year.

1509
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 6: And you've got to figure there there's going to be

1510
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 6: at least another one or two pieces that they get

1511
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 6: in the draft this weekend that's going to play a

1512
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 6: key role this year as well.

1513
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 4: It's interesting like we're kind of I think we're all

1514
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 4: kind of waiting on the Borough deal, and the whole

1515
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 4: league kind of is, and maybe maybe Burrow and Herbert

1516
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: are waiting out each other on this front. And it's

1517
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 4: very little from a league standpoint, out of either Cincinnati

1518
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: or the Borough camp. From our perspective. Is it the

1519
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: same down there in terms of just a negotiation that's

1520
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: gonna get done, but it's it feels like there's very

1521
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: little news coming out of it, but then also like

1522
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: no panic, like it's clearly gonna get done.

1523
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1524
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just another example of how perfect the

1525
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 6: Bengals and Burrow are for each other because they are

1526
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 6: both very tight to the vest.

1527
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: Are not.

1528
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 6: There's not a lot of leaks coming out of those camps,

1529
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: but all indications are that it is moving along. The

1530
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 6: fifth year option was just a way, you know, the

1531
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 6: deadline's coming up Tuesday. It was kind of the Bengals saying, look,

1532
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 6: we're focused on the draft right now, we're getting more,

1533
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 6: go do that as a fallback plan, and then once

1534
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 6: the draft is ever, go back and start working on

1535
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 6: this extension for Burrow. There's really the bigger question is

1536
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 6: does Higgins, does Logan Wilson, who was the third round

1537
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 6: pick that year, with those two, do those guys get

1538
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 6: extensions because he's the salaries keep mountain. I mean, Orlando

1539
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 6: Brown's getting sixty four and a half million, Trey Hendrickson

1540
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 6: is fifteen, He's up to fifteen this year seventeen and

1541
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 6: a half. Next year, it's it's gonna get harder and

1542
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 6: harder to keep these guys together, and that creates hard decisions,

1543
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 6: and one of those might be letting.

1544
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 5: T Higgins go, which would be wild because this is

1545
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 5: all about weapons in this arm race in the AFC,

1546
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: and the Bengals obviously with Higgins, with Chase, with Boyd

1547
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 5: and we'll see you and Joe Mixon for now, Joe Burrow.

1548
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 5: They've got those weapons. So when you look at this draft,

1549
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of mocks that have them taking

1550
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 5: another weapon a tight end for this offense. What are

1551
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 5: you kind of focusing on for the early picks here

1552
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 5: for the Bengals.

1553
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually think we're going to see a heavy

1554
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: defensive attack in the draft from the Bengals again this year.

1555
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 6: If they went defense defense with their first two picks

1556
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 6: last year, if they go defense defense with the first

1557
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 6: two this year, which I think is very much in

1558
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 6: play to the first time in franchise history they've done that.

1559
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 6: But I think they come. They don't get to Saturday

1560
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 6: without a cornerback, and even though they have three starters back,

1561
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 6: that's a big position of need. They love loading up there.

1562
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: They love adding early round picks a year before they

1563
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 6: really need them to be big players. So I think

1564
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 6: you're gonna seem to take a corner and I think

1565
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 6: a defensive lineman's coming off the board in one of

1566
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 6: those first three rounds. Tight End is a big It's

1567
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 6: an important position. They kind of took some of the

1568
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 6: urgency out of it when they signed earth Smith Junior

1569
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 6: and re signed Drew Sample, but still they don't have

1570
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 6: a single tight end on the roster sign beyond this year.

1571
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 6: So that's a third fourth round definite target if they

1572
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 6: don't get one earlier, and I don't think they will.

1573
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 6: I don't think they will spend a premium pick on

1574
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 6: non premium position.

1575
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 4: Do they need a starter or are they out of

1576
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 4: this draft?

1577
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: Is?

1578
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 4: Or obviously you'd love one if you landed one, but

1579
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 4: you do they need anybody at any position? Jay where

1580
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 4: they step in and start. Are they still in need

1581
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 4: of that? Are they pretty well buttoned up in terms

1582
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: of how that would look if they had to play

1583
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 4: the game this weekend?

1584
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, They've got the entire starting lineup set. The

1585
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 6: two safeties they lost. Like I said, Dak Sail steps

1586
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 6: in there and they signed Nick Scott from the Rams

1587
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 6: in free agency. Those are the big absences from the

1588
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 6: starting lineup last year, so they what they have on

1589
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 6: the roster now, probably the starting twenty two will be

1590
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 6: comprised of that. But that's just that just adds to

1591
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 6: the flexibility they have. Or they're at twenty eight. They

1592
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 6: got to wait and see how the draft plays out anyhow,

1593
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 6: and then they really truly can go in any direction.

1594
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 6: Running back at some point you would think would be

1595
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 6: addressed with the mixing situation, but again that's third fourth

1596
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 6: round at the earliest.

1597
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 5: What do you think happens with Joe Mixon.

1598
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 6: I think he agrees to take a pay cut and

1599
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 6: he plays for the Bengals in twenty twenty three at least.

1600
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 6: I just he's there already for voluntary workouts. I think

1601
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 6: that almost feels like it's a signed to the team,

1602
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 6: where if he hasn't been asked to take a pay

1603
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 6: cut yet, he knows it's coming, he will be asked

1604
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 6: to take a pay cut. He's not going to make

1605
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 6: any decision on that to see how the draft plays out.

1606
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 6: But there's no way they're paying at twelve point eight

1607
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 6: million this year. I don't think the legal stuff has

1608
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 6: any bearing on this. It's a misdemeanor anyhow, as ugly

1609
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 6: you have a look as it is to be waving

1610
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 6: a gun in traffic. That's still up to be decided

1611
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 6: in the courts. But even if he's found guilty, I

1612
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 6: don't think you'll see the Bengals part way with him.

1613
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 6: It'll be strictly a financial decision and whether he's ready

1614
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 6: or willing to take a pay cut.

1615
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 5: Is there anything that you see when looking at this

1616
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 5: team and this roster other than injury that could derail

1617
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 5: them from once again being a favorite to come out

1618
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 5: of the AFC.

1619
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 6: You know, that's a good question. I don't think so.

1620
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 6: I don't know if there as long as there's not

1621
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 6: a major injury, and there are positions where they could

1622
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 6: probably even take one of those type of hits, but

1623
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 6: that they've got it all together. I mean, we talk

1624
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 6: all the time about, you know, quarterbacks Joe Burrow, those

1625
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 6: guys like Jamaar Chasey get better as they get into

1626
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 6: year two and year three. Well, coaching staffs do that too,

1627
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 6: and this coaching stag the only staff in the league

1628
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 6: that's had offense coordinator defense coordinated. Our head coach together

1629
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 6: for going on five years now. They've really grown as

1630
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 6: a staff. All the assistants have been in place for

1631
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 6: multiple years, so I just see it feels like this

1632
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 6: team is still ascending and back to back AFC Championship games.

1633
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 6: There's there's not much farther you can ascend to. It

1634
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 6: feels like the window is this year, next year. But

1635
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 6: they need to get one of those Lombardi trophies at

1636
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 6: pay Corse Stadium.

1637
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's the dangoust thing too, because it's

1638
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 4: the AFC is just so brutal and made brutal more

1639
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: brutal by Aaron Rodg officially in the AFC now and

1640
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: the Bengals are it feels like they're hitting on everything

1641
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: that I know that. They're very good on the social

1642
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 4: media side of things, Jay and I just saw here

1643
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 4: in the last hour they tweet out a picture of

1644
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 4: t Higgins at workouts. So everything looks kombay on that

1645
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 4: front too, right.

1646
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it was mentioned to us that because we

1647
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 6: said nobody saw Tea on the first aid that locker

1648
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 6: room was open, and then he showed up the next

1649
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 6: day and you know, he's not trying to be around

1650
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 6: when the media is being around, so we kind of

1651
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 6: suggested maybe you put so many people are freaking out

1652
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 6: that he was he was there, and it's like, maybe

1653
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 6: you guys put out a picture of Tea working out

1654
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 6: and settle down the savages. And they listened to us

1655
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 6: and did it. So it is a good sign. You know,

1656
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 6: anytime you got a guy that's dealing looking for an

1657
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,839
Speaker 6: extension and it's dragging on and it's it's not happening.

1658
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 6: You see guys not show up for the voluntary stuff,

1659
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 6: for lesser things. So I think it is a great

1660
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 6: sign that Joe Maxon T Higgins. We've seen just about

1661
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 6: everybody except Jamar Chase and we know he's working out

1662
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 6: doing his own thing, not here, So it is it's

1663
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 6: a good sign to have the band back together, so

1664
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 6: to speak.

1665
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because it's it's obviously all going

1666
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: very very well on the field, but off there's been

1667
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 4: big changes in that organization as well, whether it's you

1668
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 4: know the little things like fan base always wanted the

1669
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: white Bengal Tiger and getting an indoor all of those

1670
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 4: type of things that are happening down there. Who's the

1671
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: catalyst for that? With an ownership that's been in a

1672
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 4: family for as long as that one has. What's been

1673
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 4: the game changer where all that's been concerned.

1674
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, her name is Elizabeth Blackburn. She's Mike Brown's granddaughter,

1675
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 6: her sister Carolyn, who has taken on a bigger role

1676
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 6: with the team. But I remember when Elizabeth came on.

1677
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 6: They hired her as the I can't remember director president

1678
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 6: of fan engagement, and they for so long they fans

1679
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 6: just never felt appreciated or valued. It was like they

1680
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 6: take our money and the listen they've been clamoring for

1681
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 6: a Ring of honor, they give that to him. The

1682
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 6: White Tiger, the social media engagement and the whole game

1683
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 6: day experience. They put so much into the relationship with

1684
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 6: the fans, and I yeah, of course winning is driving

1685
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 6: most of this, but that the fans feel like they're

1686
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 6: not just watching a great team, like they're a part

1687
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 6: of something that's growing and building and exciting for the city.

1688
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 6: And I do I think they've done a great job

1689
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 6: of that. Elizabeth Blackburn when they first hired her, the

1690
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 6: first time we talked to Mike Brown, the team owner,

1691
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 6: after that, we were asking about the Ring of Honor

1692
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 6: and he said I don't know. I think Elizabeth might

1693
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 6: be the one to get it done. She's the only

1694
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 6: one that's not afraid of me, and so that's what

1695
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 6: it was with all the other people in the organization's family.

1696
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 6: They just bowed to Mike and he never wanted to

1697
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 6: single out people. The ring of honor was a big

1698
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 6: thing for the fans, and then Elizabeth comes in convinces

1699
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 6: them to do it, and it's just been it's just

1700
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 6: been one thing after another ever since that first moment.

1701
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 5: That being sad. You know, we're talking right now. There's

1702
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 5: been talk about what the Browns are going to do

1703
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 5: with their stadium. Is there any talk about putting a

1704
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 5: state of the art facility down there for this Bengals team.

1705
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 5: I feel like if there was ever a time to

1706
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 5: do it, it would be now.

1707
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, I mean if there is talk, if not

1708
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 6: coming from inside the Bengals organization or league went out

1709
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 6: in Phoenix at the owners meetings, I would ask Katie Blackburn,

1710
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 6: who's the executi vice president team and Mike Brown's daughter,

1711
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 6: ask about that, and she said, they think they have

1712
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 6: a perfectly fine stadium and they want to take the

1713
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 6: Baltimore approach, where you just keep putting money into it

1714
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 6: and improving the existing structure. And you know, they really

1715
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 6: got one over on the taxpayers when they built that stadium.

1716
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 6: I think they realize that. I think that they're appreciative

1717
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 6: of the fans sticking with them through the lean years.

1718
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 6: So I think you're going to see a much different

1719
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 6: situation here where if the money is going to be

1720
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 6: about improvements not a brand new stadium. And I think

1721
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 6: you're going to see the Bengals ship in more than

1722
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 6: what we've seen them do in the past.

1723
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 4: Great stuff, Jay, Thank you so much for your time.

1724
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 4: Really appreciate it.

1725
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks for letting me on.

1726
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: Guys.

1727
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 4: All right, that's Jay Morrison with the Athletic on the

1728
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 4: Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twist Ted hardeiced T,

1729
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Yeah,

1730
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 4: that it's a tricky one to upgrade that operation, that

1731
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: stadium operation.

1732
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: It's terrible.

1733
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a that was a tough I mean, look,

1734
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 4: I mean, look at you know, first energy. Yeah, like

1735
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 4: there's you well you saw I mean this leads us

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Speaker 4: to that you saw what happened yesterday down in Nashville

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Speaker 4: one point two billion. It was it was five hundred

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Speaker 4: from the state, seven point fifty uh in bond from

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 4: the city or that could have those inverted. But one

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Speaker 4: point two billion public and then another billion. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be another well, yeah, another billion is going to

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Speaker 4: go to the for the city part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Another billion is going to come out of the former

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01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 4: Adams and I think was a shrunk family name. They're

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Speaker 4: gonna pay the other billion of it for a two

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: point one billion dollar roof stadium in Nashville. It's a

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Speaker 4: game changer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look how quickly that went through.

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Speaker 4: Oh went it was a twenty six to twelve vote. Yeah,

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01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 4: in terms of the Nashville money and then the state

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01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 4: money that was there from a you think about this

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Speaker 4: from Nashville's perspective, which one of the fastest growing cities

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Speaker 4: in the country, and honestly might be the point where

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01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: there's not much else for it to grow just because

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01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 4: it's you know, in the hills and it's just tough.

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Speaker 4: There's not a lot of way to go. But Nashville

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01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 4: will have Super Bowls, Nashville will have college football national

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01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 4: championship games, it will have the SEC title game. If

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01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 4: the University of Tennessee plays in a college football playoff game,

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01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 4: it will do so in Nashville. It will get the

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Speaker 4: Final Four, it will get WrestleMania, it will get all

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Speaker 4: of those things to a city that already has so

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Speaker 4: many advantages.

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Speaker 2: And they had just gone along, say they have outdoor

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01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: festivals at that stadium every time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well now that's going to know. Now you're doing that. Yeah,

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 4: so that thing looks amazing.

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Speaker 5: Amazing that they did. It's like, yeah, that's what I'm

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01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 5: That's that's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's absolutely getting it done right. You are right there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, great, very good. I was just looking around.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good.

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Speaker 4: Uh so much more.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: Brought you by bally Bet Coming Soon to Ohio on

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back into Cleveland. Browns Daily brought you

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1782
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 4: Know you had something you wanted to get to.

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01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact. It's amazing to me when

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers wants to be gracious, oh yeah, affable and

1786
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 5: charming that he can be. And I think he went

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01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 5: into this press conference in New York, YEP with a

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 5: decided note to not be stand officer off putting, and

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 5: I think try to ingratiate himself to the New York

1790
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 5: media early, and I think by all accounts it was

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Speaker 5: a rousing success.

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Speaker 4: We're a pretty simple group, right us humans. Yeah, sure,

1793
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 4: be nice will be reciprocated.

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01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 5: Kindness is free, brother, And the.

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01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 4: Other part of it is in if you're in his position.

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Speaker 4: That's why I've always there's been you know, people that

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 4: I've covered, people that have come through here, people at

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01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: other places where you just go, Man, it feels like

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01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 4: you're making this far more difficult than it needs to be.

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01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: That there was a path here where it's so much

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01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 4: easier to just do it the nice way. Yeah, just

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01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 4: be cool, Just be don't It makes things so much

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01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 4: more difficult when you go the other way.

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 4: And I don't understand how some athletes use this.

1806
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 5: You know, they choose violence.

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01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: They choose violence, and it's a it's just not worth it, man.

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 4: And when you juxtapose choosing a tougher path with poor play,

1809
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 4: then it's just pure toxicity. If you combine greatness with kindness,

1810
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 4: well then you get all of it.

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 5: And you're the most loved guy. And I do think

1812
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 5: it's a savvy move that he's gonna wear eight and

1813
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 5: not twelve. Broadway Joe said he could wear twelve, and

1814
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 5: he said, yeah, that's Broadway Joe to me.

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, they don't have a whole lot of quarterback

1816
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 4: lineage at that operation, so they've no you know, no

1817
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 4: not it's a shame they don't not wear in those uniforms,

1818
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: the Broadway Joe.

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01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 5: They should wear them this year they want to. I know,

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 5: I do like the Blacks, but nonetheless, it's not a

1821
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 5: Jets uniform. I saw something that if they scored exactly

1822
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 5: twenty four points in every game last year, the Jets

1823
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 5: would have been fourteen and three.

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Speaker 4: Well, they were seven and four before losing their last six. Yeah,

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 4: with quarterbacks who threw for about fifty seven percent. Yeah, okay,

1826
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 4: so what's that look like? And by the way, quarterbacks

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01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: who do not have his arm talent.

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Speaker 5: And so now and they're gonna have Wilson, Corey Davis, Lazard,

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 5: Mkole Hardman.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, briefs hauled back.

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01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 5: If they drafted Jackson Smith and JIGBTT would feel like overkill.

1832
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 5: But weapons, no light.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he bring over one of one or two of

1834
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 2: his crony didn't like to does he wants?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think Cobb wants to go there too.

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01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 5: Well why wouldn't they?

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01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's gonna be a they're really good sucks.

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 4: They're really good. Yeah, they really are.

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01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 5: Do you like what I did there? Are you pleased

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01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 5: with that?

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 6: It's nice?

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01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 5: Well, they thank you.

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01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 4: It's kind of like though, like when my kid says,

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01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 4: are you are you glad that I that I picked

1846
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 4: up the towels in my bathroom?

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01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 5: That's the job.

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 4: That's the job.

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01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 5: I know. But I thought you had the money. You

1850
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 5: said you had something you want to talk about. You

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 5: did give me a devilish smile, which was good.

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Speaker 4: I eat to have something.

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Speaker 5: Of course, come on, be you ready talk about uh?

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Speaker 4: We got uh draft is tomorrow. We will be back

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01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 4: to do so the next level is next. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: listening Buddy Cleveland Brown's Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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