1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hey, 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: whip smarties. Today we have one of my very favorite 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: women on the pod. Not because she's an incredible congresswoman, 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: not because she is an accomplished civil rights attorney who 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: defends our very ideals, not because she happens to be 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: one of the most whip smart people I've ever been 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: in a room with, and not because she's also one 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: of the coolest people on the House floor. It's really 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: for all of these things. Today we are joined by 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: none other than Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. She didn't come to 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Washington to play nice. She came to defend a true 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and more gorgeous America. And right now she is standing 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: at the center of one of the most consequential fights, 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: not only in Texas but across the nation over redistricting, 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: access to the ballot, voting rights, and with communities of 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: color will be silenced or heard. As many of you know, 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: this year, Texas Republicans drew a new congressional map that 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: is designed to add five gup seats, which has forced 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Democrats to sue in court because they're drawing this in 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: ways that would reduce the voting power of some Americans 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: to one fifth a full vote. If that sounds like 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: an eerie ghost of history past that we should be 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: ashamed of. It is, and Jasmine Crockett is not going 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: to take this one laying down. She's here to talk 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: about local politics, national politics, what's going on with the 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: government shut down, what on earth is happening with the 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Epstein files, and why Speaker Johnson frankly keeps lying to us. 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: She is here to defend a democracy under siege, and 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: she does it with style. Let's dive in with Jasmin 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: crockettar my lighthouse, beacon, north star human being that reminds 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: me that we can speak truth to power. It feels 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: like a weird thing to ask you how you are 33 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: when twenty twenty five is twenty twenty fiving so hard 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: in more the project way than just the calendar year. 35 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: But how are you? 36 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what? 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: I really am not going to complain. There is a 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: lot that I could say. But every day that I 39 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: wake up and I think about how pissed off I am, 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: I also think about how fortunate I am that in 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: this moment, unlike so many others that are sitting at home, 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: and filling the same level of frustration, if not a 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: higher level of frustration. I at least have a seat 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: at the table. And so I am not really afforded 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: an opportunity to kind of sit around and say, oh, 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: pity me. I look at this as an opportunity. I 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: look at as an opportunity to give people hope. I 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: look at it as an opportunity to take down the 49 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: bad guys. And when I say take down, it's the 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: traditional takedown. Right. So I am looking forward to the 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: midterms and I am trying to help other candidates right 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: now because I do believe we should have some oversight. 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: I do believe that the American people deserve real answers. 54 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I do believe that it is. 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Our time to shine a light on all the darkness 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: that has come forward. And the reality is that not 57 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: everyone is in a position to do it. So as 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: much as sometimes I wake up and I'm ready to 59 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: bang my head against the wall, I then have that 60 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: moment of reflection and I'm so incredibly grateful to be 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: here in this moment and have the opportunities that I have. 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I really love that. That's beautiful. It's interesting, you know, 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: when I when I think about all the ways that 64 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I get the privilege. Like you said, you have the 65 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: privilege of a seat at the table. I have the 66 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: privilege of being in some of the rooms sometimes where 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: your seats are. And I think about the years I've 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: been able to, you know, follow your work on the 69 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: hill and also now over the last I don't know 70 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: year in change, call you a friend, you know, see 71 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: you out and about in the world, whether we're at 72 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: a political rally or occasionally getting to have a very 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: overdue meal. I think about who you are as someone 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: who takes that sacred rage that I think anyone who 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: really believes in community or the constitution feels fired up 76 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: right now. And you do so from your seat, as 77 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you do so from your expertise. You know, 78 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: you were a public defender, you became a civil rights attorney. 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: You are one of the people I look to in 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: leadership as being the most well versed in what America 81 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: is and is supposed to to be versus how she 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: behaves sometimes and I wonder I always ask everyone who 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: comes on the show this question, but I really am 84 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: excited to ask you, like if we got to, you know, 85 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: be in a great robin Williams movie, and something happened 86 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and suddenly we were on the playground with eight year 87 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: old Jasmine, Like, would you see would you see traits 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: in your young self in that little girl that you 89 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: carry with you today? You know, was she out there 90 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: like standing up to playground bullies? What was her vibe? 91 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: What was your vibe as a young woman. 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny because I legitimately have some friends 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: that I've had since elementary and many of them are like, 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: no surprise, we knew it, We always saw it, right. 95 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: So I was always a smart girl. You know. 97 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: I was always kind of testing at the top of 98 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: whatever tests we had going on, and I was always 99 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: like deeply caring. So yeah, if there was a bullety situation, 100 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: I probably would have been the one that stood up, 101 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: did not really have to run into it, thank goodness 102 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: on my behalf for anybody else's. But I also had 103 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: a little bit of sass that may not have been 104 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: appropriate during that time. So it's interesting because I only 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: recently started sharing this story about when I was in 106 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: the third grade because people are like, oh, you know, 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: Jasmine is all cosplay, or you know, they come up 108 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: with all these random things and I'm like, honestly, honey, 109 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I've been the same. 110 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: My entire life. 111 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: You can go and find from me testing at the 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: top with all the standardized tests from elementary on to 113 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: me ended up getting a scholarship to the private school 114 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: that they loved to talk about because because of my 115 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: academic achievements to me being at the top ten percent 116 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: of my class after my first year. 117 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: In law school. 118 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: So I've always done really really well with the studies. 119 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: I've always had a bit of bite. So in the 120 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: third grade, I got in trouble, which I guess is 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: somewhere around the age eight, maybe a little bit older. 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: I got in trouble for cursing out my art teacher. 123 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: So you know, listen, I mean, and you know, I 124 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: want the kids to know you can still be successful. 125 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean, things happened, but like I was, I was. 126 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: I was a bit of a smarty and I didn't 127 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: get in trouble very much. 128 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: It was literally like what you see now where I 129 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: am good, I am smart, I'm my own business. 130 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: But that teacher decided to try me, and so that's 131 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: what it was. 132 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: And you know, I got into trouble, but you know, 133 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: also the teacher didn't bother me anymore. 134 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: So I am pretty much the same. 135 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: I probably was a little bit more outgoing back then 136 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: right now because of just kind of the environment and 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: how many people know me. Like I was always like 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: the popular girl, like everyone knew me, that kind of stuff. 139 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: But like it was different because as a kid, you're 140 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: not worried about much of anything, so you're just like 141 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: hanging out, You're talking to everybody, and it's, you know, 142 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: a different world. And now it's like, you know, I 143 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: feel it's crazy. I've never told anyone this, but because 144 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: of the level of death threats that I get when 145 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm out in public and people approach me, if they 146 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: walk up to me too fast, it makes me very 147 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: nervous because I don't know if you're walking up out 148 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: of excitement because you really like me, or you're walking 149 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: up because you feel as if you hate somebody who 150 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: you've never met. And so well, sometimes I can kind of, 151 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, seem probably a little bit stand off fish 152 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: because usually there's security or staff around me that is 153 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: trying to kind of understand like what you're trying to do. 154 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: So obviously that has changed totally, and I wish I 155 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: could go back to being the care free little girl 156 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: that I was that knew no hate and only knew love. 157 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: But unfortunately that's just kind of a part of growing up. 158 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also it's a real symptom of 159 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a sick society. And while I am a great fan 160 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: of the promise of this country and the ideals that 161 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: it was founded on, I think, much like you and 162 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: many of the people we get to work alongside, I'm 163 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: never going to pretend like America has been perfect at 164 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: aiming for those ideals. And I think it's very it's 165 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: a very strong signifier of a sick society when intelligent 166 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: women or women who stand for the political power of 167 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: the masses or the working class are consistently targeted. And 168 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't deal with it in the way that you do. 169 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: But let me tell you what I do deal with 170 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: as an outspoken you know, volunteer for Democracy has changed 171 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: my movements in public. It's changed my constitution in a way. 172 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: I gave a talk last week at World Mental Health 173 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Day and we were talking about activism, and I said, 174 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, we can do all these things online. We're 175 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: going to run this letter writing campaign. We're going to 176 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: overwhelm the system with paper mail, and I cracked a 177 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: joke like I'm going to I'm gonna smooch every letter. 178 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I just need to find a lipstick called kiss of death. 179 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: And then I was like, that's a joke, to be clear, 180 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't need Breitbart to write another article that 181 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: is going to result in like ten thousand more death 182 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: threats for me. And I'm just like an actor who 183 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,479 Speaker 1: talks about this stuff because I'm also a trained journalist. 184 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: You are an elected official who really really stands up 185 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: against very dangerous authoritarian levers of power. And you're a woman, 186 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and you're a black woman, so they really don't like you. 187 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: They don't like anything about the amount of power you've amassed. 188 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: But what's amazing to me as a you know, a 189 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: fan and a friend whatever that combo word looks like, 190 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, am I a friend? Is that what I am? 191 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: That's kind of cute. You know, you come at this, 192 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: you come at this work as I mentioned earlier, from 193 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: your early career as a public defender, as a civil 194 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: rights attorney, Like you know what the law of the 195 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: land is, and you know the ways that certain ill 196 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: motivated rules or systems or laws or policies have been 197 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: implemented over and over again as people who have not 198 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: been given top power have a massed power. So whether 199 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: that's women, whether that's communities of color, whether that's Black Americans, 200 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: Like we see the gains made, you know, LGBTQ folks, anybody, 201 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: we see the games made, see incredible pushback. But you know, 202 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: you know what is on page sixty seven and clause 203 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: three C of every bill. So how does how does 204 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: your expertise and also your early career work before you 205 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: ran for office, how does that all come together for you? 206 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: So this is such a great question. 207 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: It's it's one of those things that I try to 208 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: encourage our caucus to think about, right because typically people 209 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: are upset with our communication or lack thereof our styles 210 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: or our messaging and whatnot. People definitely have a long 211 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: list of issues. It's usually not the substance. I will 212 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: say that, it's usually not the substance of what it 213 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: is that we are trying to push forward with. It's 214 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: just a matter of who all can understand what it 215 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: is that we're talking about. And sometimes it can feel 216 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: like we're just talking to one another instead of talking 217 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: to the people that we serve, and you know, there 218 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: are those that are confused, like, well, why does she 219 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: sound this way over here? And why does she sound 220 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: that way over there, and that kind of stuff, as 221 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: if I can't be a multifaceted person, and you know, 222 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: as a trained litigator, I would be doing a disservice 223 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: to the people that were entrusting me sometimes to literally 224 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: save their lives if I wasn't able to understand my audience. 225 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: So as a business major undergrad who worked in marketing, 226 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: as I was working my way through law school, the 227 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: emphasis on my business major was financed though, Like one 228 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: of the things that they always taught you in marketing 229 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: was first determine your audience. So when I would walk 230 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: into a courtroom, I would walk in and deal with 231 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of strangers and we would have to pick 232 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: a jury, and I'd have to trust that these people 233 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: are going to listen to the law and just follow 234 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: the law. I would have to deal with the biases 235 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: and do my best to kind of delete as many 236 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: of the biases as possible while understanding that people are 237 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: people and they're human and there's just certain things that 238 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: they don't want to tell you. 239 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: But have I walked into. 240 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: A courtroom in Arkansas before and had multiple people admit that. 241 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: They were racist. 242 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: I have because I've been able to make people feel 243 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: comfortable enough to just be honest with me, and it 244 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: wasn't so much about me as it was the system. 245 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: And I would explain to them why the system mattered 246 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: and why it was important that no matter who came 247 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: through that system, you may not be the one coming 248 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: through right now, love when maybe coming through or having 249 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: gone through, and you would want this system to work 250 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: for everyone, and that's why we So I would explain 251 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: the why right and I would get people to admit 252 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: things that you would never ever think they would admit. 253 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: And then, of course I always knew that there were 254 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: people that just wouldn't tell me certain stuff, but I 255 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: also knew that it was important to build a rapport, 256 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: and building a report didn't look like me using every 257 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: form of legally as I could find, because I'm talking 258 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: to a group of people that come from all different backgrounds. 259 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: The only thing for sure that they shared in comment 260 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: is that they were number one citizens and number two 261 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: they lived within whatever jurisdiction it was that I was 262 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: trying this case in and that's it. Like you didn't 263 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: know anything, but you needed to trust these people. But 264 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: they knew I was a lawyer when they got in 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: there because I was standing there. I was presented as 266 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: the attorney for the client, and ultimately, when I went 267 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: in front of the judge and I would make arguments 268 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: to the judge on behalf of my client as it 269 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: relates to various legal arguments or motions that we were arguing, 270 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: I obviously would use the terminology that mattered for whatever 271 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: it was that I was arguing, because the credibility needed 272 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: to be there with the judge for the judge to say, oh, yeah, 273 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: she knows what she's talking about because she referenced the 274 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: right thing. So I've never put that much stock really 275 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: into my education to the extent that I tell people 276 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: all the time, I went to law school because that 277 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: was the only way that I could do the job 278 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: that I wanted to do. If I wanted to be 279 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: a plumber, then I wouldn't have gone to college at all. Right, 280 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: But that's not the job that I wanted to do. 281 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: And so I've always been a big supporter in the 282 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: trades and everything because I've never been kind of this 283 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: educational elitist. I went into law because it was a 284 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: way again to help people and to protect people after 285 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: I myself had become the victim of a series of 286 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: hate crimes and they brought in Cochran Firm to actually 287 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: try to investigate and help us out. And so it 288 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: was a feeling that I ended up feeling at that 289 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: moment that made me say, oh God, I don't want 290 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: anybody else to feel like this, and like these are 291 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: real superheroes. 292 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Like that was the only reason I went to law school. 293 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: But with that being said, my training as an attorney 294 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: number one taught me how to read the law. So 295 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: therefore we're talking about I now have a job where 296 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: we write the laws. 297 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: So I'm very clear on how the law. 298 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: Reads and where there may be issues with the interpretation, 299 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: because it was my job to interpret the laws the 300 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: legislators wrote all the time. In addition to that, I 301 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: always understood my audience and who I was communicating to. 302 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: I have dealt with hostile witnesses. 303 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: I know how to pivot in that moment, which also 304 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: makes me a little bit. 305 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: Successful when it comes to committee hearings as well. 306 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now for our sponsors, it's really interesting, you 307 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: know when you say that when you talk about hostile witnesses, 308 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: and I think about all of the you know, the 309 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: hearings that I watch, you guys holding in government, and 310 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: just the blatant lying coming from the folks at the top, 311 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: and it makes me think a lot about the way 312 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: that in the previous administration, you know, the our side, 313 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: the left, progressive folks, you know, folks who just want 314 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: billionaires to pay as much in taxes as the rest 315 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: of us, would be accused of things that were simply untrue. 316 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: And now we know that there are things happening because 317 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: they printed them in a nine hundred and twenty five 318 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: page manual, and they're talking about it on camera, you know, 319 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: in back rooms, and then when they come and have 320 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: to testify, they say, oh, no, that's not true. Why 321 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: do you think there's such a double standard for the 322 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: requirements of truth telling and decorum. 323 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: I think that when it comes to the left, we're 324 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: just a lot more forgiving. And so, you know, and 325 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: as well as as people you know, like to talk 326 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: about the left being elitist, and I don't I don't believe. 327 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: I don't buy into the fact they we're elitist. I 328 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: just know that you know, they are able to get 329 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: away with a lot of things because they take advantage 330 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: of what people don't know. 331 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: Right. 332 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: So, for instance, the people that are out there and 333 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: are screaming for yes, no due process for people that 334 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: aren't citizens, like that's constitutional, Like what are you saying, Like, 335 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing right for? 336 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: Right? 337 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: Citizenship is like yes, take away burf Right citizenship is 338 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: like guys. 339 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: How do you think you're a citizen? Sir? 340 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 341 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it so it is this thing I 342 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: think for a lot of times the left where they'll say, 343 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: you know what, people will see that this is just idiotic, 344 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: or people will see that like. 345 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: I mean, think about how we were when Hillary lost. 346 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: We were indignant. It was like there's no way Donald 347 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: Trump could beat Hillary. It's like have you seen her resume? Right? 348 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 2: Like it was one of those shocks to the conscience. 349 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: And so then people argue that we're disconnected and that 350 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But it's like when it comes down 351 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: to them doing certain things, I think to a certain extent, 352 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 3: we shrug it off and we imagine and we believe 353 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: that people are going to see how it is not 354 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: meeting the measure of what an elected should be. But 355 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: I think that we at this point in time need 356 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: to be pointing that out. I don't think we can 357 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: take it for granted what people know or what people expect, 358 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: because it's been made clear that. 359 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: We've been wrong. That's just the bottom line. 360 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, even when we think about FAFO, 361 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: it's like whatever, like FAFO, and it's like, actually, we're 362 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: all in this boat together, and maybe we need to 363 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: talk this through so that we don't end up here again. 364 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: And I think that's why we ended up suffering and 365 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: ended up with him again, is because we felt like 366 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: liberated when Joe Biden was he like that, it was like, yes, 367 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: finally see we told you he was awful, right Like, 368 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: it was like great, now we can move on with life. 369 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: And we had this attitude of, well, people will just 370 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: know that, like that's not what to do, instead of 371 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: us actually digging in and working and making sure that 372 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: we're constantly staying in this fight and in this thing. 373 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 3: So a little bit of it is a little bit 374 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: of an attitude of clearly, people see what we see right. 375 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: The other part of it, though, is just that we're 376 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: not believed. It is why you don't see us going 377 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: after any specific group of people. That is why I 378 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: would put money on it that you will not find 379 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: a group chat of young Democrats going off and calling 380 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: black folk everything but a child of God going off 381 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: and talking about Hitler going off and talking about raping people. 382 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: You know, you are hard pressed, like I would be shocked. 383 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: But when the young Republican chat was leaked, the fact 384 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: that it was leaked sound about right number one. 385 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: Number two, The fact that. 386 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: They ultimately said that this happened, it didn't surprise me. 387 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: It didn't suppress me at all. And the fact that 388 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: the Vice President decided not to denounce it did not surprise. 389 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Me at all either. 390 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: And I don't think the President, at least at the 391 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: time of this recording, has said a thing about it. 392 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: And imagine if that was the Democrats, they would be gone, 393 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: they would be out, Oh. 394 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: They would be impeached, hearings, it would be bad. 395 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: It would be all kinds of things right, and it 396 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: would be attributed to the entire party. And here's the 397 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: deal I will and I am going to attribute with 398 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: those young Republicans did to the entire party because they 399 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: have facilitated an environment of hate and white supremacy, and 400 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: they consistently fail to denounce it because that is a 401 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: large part of their base. Like, they actually would probably 402 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: have a lot more Black Republicans if the Republican Party 403 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: wasn't racist, because so many black folk are so entrenched 404 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: with church, like it is synonymous with who they are 405 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: and the very kind of conservative beliefs that black folk 406 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: tend to have when it comes to church. But the 407 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: one thing you can't change is Jaicola. You can't change 408 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: how you were born. So there's no way that you know, 409 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: most black people, they recognize that when they wake up 410 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: they are black, are like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go 411 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: hang out with the racist I'm gonna go hang out 412 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 3: with the people that I know are just going to 413 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: use my vote to continue to push forward with the 414 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: white supremacy agenda. It is the one thing that in 415 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: committee they never ever want to address. It is why 416 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: you have the President back then saying proud boys, stand 417 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: back and stand by. It is why we had to 418 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: deal with the President saying there's good people on both 419 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: sides when it came to Charlottesville. It is why we 420 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: barely could hear anything as relates to the black folk 421 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: that were killed in Buffalo New York out of him 422 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: or the black people, like, we never hear from him 423 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: when there's this travesty that is being perpetrated on people 424 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: of color or on the LGBTQI A community, because we 425 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: know we've had the nightclubs, whether it was Vegas shooting 426 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: or whether we're talking about down in Florida with poth like, 427 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: we've had all these situations, and the only time it 428 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: seemed like the president really had anything to say was 429 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: when it came. 430 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: Down to Charlie Kirk. Yeah, don't seem like I mean 431 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: he was. 432 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: He'd been on mute for almost any and every other thing, 433 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: and that's not what a president of the United States 434 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: should be doing. He has not been a united whatsoever. 435 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: He's been nothing more than a divider. 436 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: No, they're incredible dividers. And I think what was so 437 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: frustrating to me, you know, when you talk about the 438 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: communities he attacks. He immediately attacked the LGBTQ community after 439 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's murder. 440 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: And the black community, and then in the black community. 441 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: They went to the HBCUs uh huh the very next day, Yeah, 442 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: death threats at all the HBCUs. And then we find 443 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: out the kid grew up in a very mag of family, 444 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: and everything went quiet. There's been no autopsy, there's been 445 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: no reporting, there's been no ballistics confirmed, there's been no nothing. 446 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: But they did use his death as a white power rally, 447 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: and Stephen Miller literally stood up there quoting Joseph Goebbels, 448 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: while Donald Trump and JD. Vance have the nerve to say, well, 449 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: if the left wasn't calling everyone a Nazi, if you 450 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: don't want to be called a Nazi, stop quoting Nazis, 451 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: stop quoting them, stop literally quoting Joseph Goebbels and Adolf Hitler, 452 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: and stop disappearing people into concentration camps. You can't tell us. 453 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: It's like someone saying to you, you're not allowed to 454 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: say the sky is blue, but it is. And meanwhile, 455 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: this is happening at a time where the Orwellian don't 456 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: trust your eyes, don't trust your ears. What we're doing 457 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: right in front of your face, we're not really doing. 458 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: We see this power grab, you know, they see how 459 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: their numbers are plummeting. But what's really alarming to me 460 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: now is watching they're attempting to gut the Voting Rights Act. Well, 461 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: what's left of it, they've already gott it a lot 462 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: of it, And the fact that they are trying to 463 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: redistrict so many states, include your own, to establish a 464 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: permanent Republican victory in our country regardless of the will 465 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: of the voters, including my friend in your district. These 466 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: maps that they're proposing literally would erase your seat, the 467 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: seat you won, the seat you were elected to serve 468 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: in by the people in Texas. What the hell are. 469 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: We gonna do? 470 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're in You're in the halls. So yes, 471 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: we can write the letters, and yes we can call 472 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: the reps, and yes we can show up on No 473 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: King's Day, and yes we can do these things. But 474 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: what else do you believe is the most decisive action 475 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: the citizenry can take to push back against the literal 476 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: theft of democracy? Because if we can't vote for our leaders, 477 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: then we don't have anything. Then we do have kings? 478 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: So like, what don't what don't we know that? You know? 479 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm clearly very anxious that I know my listeners 480 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: are too listen. 481 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't know much I'm gonna tell you that, but 482 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: I will tell you that they want you to feel 483 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: helpless and hopeless and that's the last thing that I 484 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: want anyone to feel. 485 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: That is when they win. 486 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: We have to recognize that it is our power that 487 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: makes them fearful. 488 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 2: That is exactly why they are doing everything that they 489 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: can to rig the system. 490 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: But like this does present an opportunity to build back better, 491 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: to build something that actually does with this country espouses 492 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: to do, which is to be the land of free 493 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: and land of opportunity and land of immigrants for all. Right, 494 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: Like that is what we have the ability to do that. 495 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: We have the ability to be a true democracy where 496 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: everyone's voice is counted. 497 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Right, we have the ability to do that. 498 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: Once they break everything, we can fix it and make 499 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: it better. Now, is it going to come back together 500 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: better as quickly as it took to break it? Now, 501 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: so we will need people to do something that they 502 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: normally or not good at. Be patient, right, but like 503 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: give us a chance and know that at a very minimum, 504 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: we are not trying to tear anything down, but we 505 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: are trying to build it up. 506 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: We are trying to fortify it so that we don't 507 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: end up with another. 508 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Autocrat that decides that they are going to exploit every 509 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: loophole that relies on the American people being able to 510 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: choose a leader that really believes in who we are. Instead, 511 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: we have a crooked crook that is acting as if 512 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: he is a gangster and a thug right who is 513 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: robbing us blind in broad daylight, taking our dollars and 514 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: sending them to everything that doesn't help us, whether it 515 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: is you know, making Argentina great again by taking our 516 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: dollars and sending it there while we are experiencing record 517 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: bankruptcy filings by our farmers and basically saying, oh, we 518 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: will boost the the profitability of the farmers in Argentina, 519 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: while there's been zero out of almost thirteen billion dollars 520 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: from soybeans specifically that had historically come from China as 521 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: a purchaser of our soybeans. 522 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: Right, they're missing those dollars. And I know we're. 523 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: Talking about the soybean farmers a lot because the whole 524 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: Argentina thing, but all of our farmers are struggling. And 525 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: what people don't understand is that I used to serve 526 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: on the AD Committee and we used to say things 527 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: like that it's a matter of national security, and it is. 528 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: You know, I've had an opportunity to travel around the 529 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: world as a member of Congress, and we've talked about 530 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: how it looks when say you've got to rely on 531 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: somebody else to feed your people. That ain't something that 532 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: you want. We need our farmers to survive for a 533 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: bunch of different reasons, but one of them is literally 534 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: a matter of national security. We can not allow ourselves 535 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: to be dependent upon other people to feed us, because 536 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: when you end up, say in some tiff, they can 537 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: just decide we're not going to seale team anymore. We 538 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: will go and diversify and sell somewhere else and starve us. 539 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: And yes, this has happened. There is a story I 540 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: sat down and spoke with in a mirror, and the 541 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: United States actually helped them out. 542 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. But people don't typically think of 543 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: food in that way, but we really need to. 544 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: So while people may be upset with farmers, because for 545 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: the most part, we can say the average farmer voted 546 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: for Trump, So you can be upset, But what I 547 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 3: tell people all the time is that I need you 548 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: to survive. That needs to be the refrain that we 549 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: hear in our voices every time we're looking at somebody 550 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: and believing that they're the opposite of who we are. 551 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: We need each other to survive. 552 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: I mean I need the farmer farming because no matter 553 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: where you live, we all got to eat, right. So 554 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: I say all that to say that if we don't 555 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: start to pull together, whether it is over. You know, 556 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: the farming issues are even just kind of. 557 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: The capitulation that we've. 558 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: Seen around the tariffs and the Republicans right, they know 559 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: that their policies are not policies that serve the masses. 560 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: That is why they want to distract and divide. So 561 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: long as they can keep us divided, then we can't 562 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: pay attention to all of the corruption and robbing that 563 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: is taking place. And so it is important that we 564 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: say listen, we may not agree on ninety percent of 565 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: the things that we have to talk about, but the 566 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: ten percent those are foundational things. We all need to 567 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: eat and hopefully let it be healthy. Now that we 568 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: have this crazy HHS secretary. We all need to have 569 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: jobs and gainful employment. As our jobs numbers are tanking. 570 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: We all need an overall strong economy, one where costs 571 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: are not going through the roof which we're experiencing that 572 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: because of the tariffs. 573 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: These sort of like foundational things. 574 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: Housing, food, education, jobs, Like this is foundational stuff and 575 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: I don't really care where you fall on the political spectrum, 576 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: Like that is the foundation that is that ten percent. 577 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: We can disagree about LGBTQIA. Hell, I will let you 578 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: disagree on diversity, equity and inclusion, like I will let 579 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: you whatever, right, but like right now we don't have 580 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: our foundational things together. As people are saying that their 581 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: healthcare bill is going from two hundred dollars a month 582 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: to six hundred dollars or eight hundred dollars or whatever 583 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: it is that is going to we're now fighting for 584 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: a bare minimum by saying, hey, at least if they 585 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: are receiving their healthcare on the marketplace, you know, we 586 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: don't want the tax subsidies to expire as they are 587 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: supposed to expire in December. 588 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: No, they don't care. So a double whammy. 589 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: And I say double whamy because the price have already 590 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: gone up and now you're saying take away the subsidies. 591 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: But it's even more than that because we know that 592 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: the jobless numbers are going up as well. We also 593 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: know that costs are going up. We know that wages 594 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: are not like it's not even just a double whammy. 595 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: It's like quadruple like, I don't know, it's a bunch 596 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: of waiting. 597 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: Not sustainable, and it's certainly not sustainable in a country 598 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: where the average American is one unexpected four hundred dollars 599 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: bill away from bankruptcy. Yeah, and now a word from 600 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: our sponsors that I really enjoy and I think you 601 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: will too. You know, It's it's interesting for me watching 602 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people because I talk a lot about 603 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: the fact that billionaires just aren't paying their fair share, 604 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: and if they did, the country be in a different place. 605 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: I get a lot of and I'm sure you do too. Oh, 606 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: you must just be jealous that you're not a billionaire. 607 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, we are all so much closer God 608 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: forbid to being a houseless tomorrow than to ever in 609 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: our lifetime or the next five lifetimes being a billionaire. Like, 610 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: and it really makes me think about what you were saying. 611 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: The core of what we're supposed to be has to 612 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: be agreed upon. But I think what the Republicans are 613 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: very good at doing is making us argue about disagreements 614 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: about things like you mentioned, whether it's LGBTQ rights, whether 615 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: it's a DEI, whether it's I don't know the fact 616 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: that women are people and we should have autonomy over 617 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: our bodies, crazy idea. I know you know all of 618 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: these things. And it's not lost on me that the 619 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: party that fought so hard to pass a bill to 620 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: harm Americans to help people who don't need it, like 621 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: you know, the two hundred and eighteen or however many 622 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: there are billions in this country don't need another jet, 623 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: but all Americans need to be able to put food 624 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: on the table. It's not lost on me that they 625 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: forced that vote through and told people they couldn't leave DC, 626 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: and now they've shut the government down and won't reopen 627 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: it because A they don't want y'all to advocate for 628 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: people's subsidies, and B they know if they swear in 629 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: that new lady from Arizona that you're going to vote 630 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: on the Epstein files, like they are shutting down the 631 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: government to protect pedophiles and to protect the alleged kingpin 632 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: of all the pedophiles, who is as evidenced and in 633 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: his own words said the best friend of our current president. Like, 634 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: are are we going to get justice there? Do we 635 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: just keep our feet on the gas pedal because I 636 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: know that that is actually something as people are beginning 637 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: to really recognize the pattern of what's going on, and 638 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: they know that Mike Johnson's tying about why he won't 639 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: bring people back, like people of all walks of life 640 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: and of all voting identities are saying, we deserve to 641 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: know how the people in power in our country were 642 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: connected to that man. You know, we want to know 643 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: about the money, We want to know about the transfers, 644 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: we want to know what happened. What do you think 645 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: happens if and when those files come out? 646 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: So you're right, they don't want to swear in repulec Rahalva, 647 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: And I think that this is a really good lesson 648 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 3: and how far they will go to obstruct and so 649 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: how can you trust these people to govern when it 650 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: seems like the only thing that it seems like they're 651 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: good at is obstruction, right, Obstructionism got us the Supreme 652 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: Court that we have, and unfortunately that is the Supreme 653 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: Court that is now hearing things such as what you 654 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: were talking about earlier. You know, I don't think that 655 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: they believe that they can even win, even as they're 656 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: trying to steal seats. I think that they are nervous 657 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: that they are still going to lose, which has been 658 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: my philosophy anyway, because we can talk about the masses 659 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: that have been detrimentally impacted, it's the very slim one 660 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: percent that has been positively impacted by this administration. And 661 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: so we know that the last time that Trump was 662 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: in it was a historic midterm as relates to the 663 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: number of Republicans that were booted, it was maybe like 664 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: forty five or something like that Republican seats that were lost. 665 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: And so that's why he started with this scheme. But 666 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: he wasn't expecting for California to push back. And so 667 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 3: you have the Supreme Court now hearing rehearing a case 668 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: as it relates to the Voting Rights Act and Section 669 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: two and whether or not those seats which I have 670 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 3: a Section two seat, will be upheld. And those are 671 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 3: the seats that basically further codify what is laid out 672 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: in the Constitution as relates to the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment. 673 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: But right now we have white people saying that they 674 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: are the ones that are being discriminated against by allowing 675 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: black people to have representation, and the map that they 676 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 3: have drawn in the State of Texas unfortunately reduces the 677 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 3: voices of black Texans to one fifth of their white 678 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: Texan counterparts, as well as our Latino brothers and sisters, 679 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 3: their voices are reduced to one third. So don't tell 680 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 3: me that this is about equity, because frankly, if we 681 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: can roll up and just kind of be equal on 682 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: any given day, then great, like I'm good like you 683 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: can change and you can do yeah. But the problem is, 684 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: y'all don't know what equity is. That is why you're 685 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: currently in court and now trying to pretend as if 686 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: you are the victims. So you've got all of this 687 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: that is going on because they know that their bills 688 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: are not popular. They also know that they are losing 689 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: some of their Republicans. So besides the Epstein situation, once 690 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: they swear Grijalva and I told you that the big 691 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 3: Ugly bill only passed by one vote. 692 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, now we have at least two new. 693 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: Members that have been sworn in two of the three 694 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: that we are missing, so we're still down by one. 695 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: But literally just having one of them could have changed 696 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 3: the trajectory. We've now seen Marjorie Taylor Green come out 697 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: and sound like she's normal. 698 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: We just gonna pause there. 699 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, so we've seen Marjorie come out, we've seen 700 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: her taking this stance that is like what we've been saying, 701 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 3: right and going against our party. But also she is 702 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: on that discharge petition that is being co led by 703 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: Rocanna and Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey also another Republican. So 704 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: there's four Republicans on there, which is absolutely ridiculous for 705 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: them to be in the majority and for them to 706 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: be all about law and order allegedly and them not 707 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: be you know, running to sign on to this discharge 708 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 3: petition because the refuser, the refuser, the speaker refuses, he 709 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: is a refuser. He refuses to bring this to the 710 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 3: floor for a vote. He could just do the bill. 711 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: We didn't have to do this, but this is the 712 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: hard way, and this is such like I want people 713 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: to understand how big and bad of a situation this is. 714 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: We have discharge petitions and basically think of it as 715 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: a ballot initiative. 716 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: Not every state has them. 717 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 3: Unfortunately we don't have them in Texas. Otherwise a lot 718 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: of things will be different. 719 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 2: But it's like a ballot. 720 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: Initiative, right, So your elected representatives are not doing what 721 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: you think they should be doing. The people can come 722 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 3: together collectively petition their government and change the law. Okay, 723 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 3: that is kind of like what a discharge petition is. 724 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: The speaker is the only one they can put a 725 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: bill on the floor. And if the speaker refuses to 726 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: put a bill on the floor that the body collectively 727 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: believes should be on the floor, which is represented by 728 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 3: the two hundred and eighteen signatures, then that's how. 729 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: We force it to the floor. 730 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: We do it most of the time in a very 731 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 3: symbolic way. This is going to be the first time, 732 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: and I don't know when, like years and years and years, 733 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: that a discharged petition actually is successful to basically override 734 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: the speaker, because most of the time people get in 735 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 3: line behind the party leader and they're just like, you 736 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 3: know whatever, But it's not happening. So I believe that 737 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: the speaker as well as the President are most likely 738 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: working overtime to try to get some of the Republicans 739 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: to come off. But Marjorie ain't going nowhere, nor is 740 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: Thomas Massey. So we'll see about the other two and 741 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 3: whether or not they waiver. Okay, once she has sworn 742 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: in and we vote on this. This is going to 743 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: be bigger than the subpoenas that have been put out 744 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 3: by the Oversight Committee. It was a subcommittee that came 745 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 3: together and outsmart at them and they were able to 746 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 3: get a subpoena. 747 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 2: Ordered out of committee. 748 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 3: When the Speaker tried to kick us out of DC 749 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: early to avoid a vote on the Epstein files, he 750 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 3: didn't want any in. This committee was already set up 751 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 3: and so they were able to do it. So it 752 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 3: was brilliant. It worked kind of. So then we get 753 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: some documents, but it's really nothing new, right And basically 754 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: at this point in time, if you saw cash Buttel testify, 755 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 3: he's decided what he legally can let out and what 756 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: he can and you know, instead of going to a 757 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 3: court and saying, hey, I have this lawful subpoena from 758 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 3: the Congress, I don't believe that these items can be disclosed. 759 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 3: We need the opinion of the court. He has not 760 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: done that. He is making his own opinions. And what 761 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: we received was representative of somewhere between one and three 762 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: percent of the entirety of the file. 763 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 2: That is it. That is it. 764 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: He is acting like the rest of it cannot come out, 765 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 3: and that's just not true. And some of the things 766 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 3: that we talked to the survivors with about is that 767 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: they had made calls to the FBI, they had made reports, 768 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 3: and obviously with people that experienced trauma, as they're going 769 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 3: through and saying, because at least one of them is 770 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 3: actually like a trauma counselor at this point, you know, 771 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 3: there's different mechanisms that people engage in to kind of 772 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: like the human brain is going to protect you in 773 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 3: different ways. It looks different for every different person, and 774 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 3: so some of them really want to see, like in 775 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 3: that moment, like what I reported, Like I want to 776 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: see like and I want to see what they did 777 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: after I made that report, Like I want to see 778 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 3: who got involved, who followed up, who did what. They 779 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 3: won't even allow them to see their own files, like 780 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 3: their lawyers were like, can you just ask them to 781 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: allow them to see their own files to see what 782 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: when they were the victims that made reports and they 783 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 3: want to know what work, if any, was done, like 784 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 3: they should have a right, and they. 785 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: Don't even want to do that. 786 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: So I will tell you that I fully anticipate there 787 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: are photos obviously lud photos as we heard, you know, 788 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: one of his cabinet members talking the other day about 789 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 3: being his next door neighbor and talking about the videos 790 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 3: that you know he anticipated existed to blackmail people. 791 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: I anticipate there is some video footage. 792 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 3: We know in our conversations or our inquiry with alex 793 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 3: Acosta about what took place in Florida in two thousand 794 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: and eight, we know in talking to him that they're 795 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 3: definitely like there's memos and conversations about video footage even 796 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 3: back then. So we've not received any video tapes anything 797 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 3: like that. 798 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: Can I ask you about that? Because there's a big 799 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: GOP talking point that they don't want the files to 800 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: come out because they would never publish material of sexual abuse. 801 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: That is not what you're talking about. You're talking about committee, 802 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: like the people who are legally supposed to have oversight 803 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: over this material reviewing it. 804 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 3: So what I would anticipate is we would go in 805 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 3: to whomever is holding whatever and we would review there, 806 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: and then what I would anticipate is the majority and 807 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: minority would come together and report out what we saw 808 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 3: and or if the Republicans don't want to talk about it, 809 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: you know, we would potentially do a minority report that 810 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 3: laid out for the public exactly kind of what was depicted, 811 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: because we wouldn't want names and faces anyway, right, like 812 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 3: to be out there if they're not. So no, it 813 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 3: would be about us safeguarding and even you know, making 814 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 3: sure again, many of these women were girls when they 815 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 3: went through this, and there may have been video footage 816 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: of them that they've never seen. They may have been 817 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: recorded without them knowing, and so at least supporting them 818 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 3: also an opportunity to go and sit and see what 819 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,959 Speaker 3: all is in the files and that kind of stuff. 820 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: Right, and now a word from our wonderful sponsors. Well, 821 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's a really important thing for the 822 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: public unversity that all of you serve in a similar 823 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: way to you know, the things we've seen in film 824 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: and television. You know, you become the Olivia Benson of 825 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: SVU in a way. You review the materials and then 826 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: you can testify on what's in them, But what's in 827 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: them does not get released to further traumatize a victim 828 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: or do harm. The report on what is in that 829 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: material is entered into the record so the perpetrators can 830 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: accurately be charged and that's what we're calling for, and 831 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: I just think it's a really important piece of information 832 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: to give to people who are seeing a lot of 833 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, clickbait, rage bait stuff on the internet that 834 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: isn't actually true. Now, I'm curious as we see them 835 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: trying to hold on to power with dirty tactics like 836 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: staving off this vote, like trying to read district states 837 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: like yours. You know, we see this power play happening 838 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: in my home state in California. You know, I appreciate 839 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: that Gavin Newsom is really coming at it and saying, Okay, 840 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: you do this in Texas, We'll do this in California, 841 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: like we're going to fight fire with fire, no more 842 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: insane behavior on one side and decorum on the other. 843 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Prop fifty? Do you support 844 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: this initiative? Do you believe that this is a good 845 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: way to fight back? Give us the inside baseball? 846 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a big fan of Prop fifty. I've 847 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 3: raised money for Cop fifty. I was just in California 848 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: last week, both in the Bay Area and LA making 849 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 3: sure that I could raise awareness and hopefully answer questions 850 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 3: about Prop fifty, especially as it kind of correlates to Texas, 851 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 3: and I want people to you know, I know we're 852 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 3: using the same words. So we're saying fire with fire, 853 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: and it is a fight. But I will tell you 854 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 3: that even in the way that California is fighting, there 855 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 3: is so much more integrity in what they're doing. 856 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: It is not the same. It is not insidious. It 857 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 2: is in. 858 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 3: Response, but it is not the same. We don't have 859 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 3: an out of control legislature and governor that just rely, oh. 860 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: Here, this is what it is. 861 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 3: Instead, they are taking a grassroots approach. 862 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 2: They are giving it to the people. The people ultimately 863 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 2: get to decide. 864 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 3: And as they went through and they drew their lines, 865 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: they actually honored the Voting Rights Act. They did not 866 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: do things to minimize the voices of people of color. 867 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 3: Whereas when we look at the map in Texas, the 868 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: state of Texas is sixty one percent people of color 869 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: and thirty nine percent Anglo. But under this current map, 870 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: over seventy percent, closer to eighty percent of the seats 871 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 3: out of Texas will be chosen by Anglos. They are 872 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: given an oversized voice in our government, and it is 873 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: antithetical to our principles of equity. But we knew that 874 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 3: this was coming because they've been attacking diversity, equity, civil rights, 875 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 3: right and for people that don't understand, they are about 876 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: to understand, like how bad it is. 877 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: Like those that have. 878 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: Uniquely abled children, they are affected by civil rights issues, 879 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 3: right like, So this isn't just about black folk, It's 880 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: not just about you know, the LGBTQIA community. 881 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: It is bigger than that. 882 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 3: And so by allowing them to attack certain gross and 883 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 3: being silent, you know, it's it's like the saying goes, 884 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 3: you know, they came for this group, and I was silent, 885 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: and they came for the you know what I mean, 886 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 3: Like ultimately, yeah, there's not even going to be anybody 887 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: to speak for you, right like, you'll be all by yourself. 888 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 3: So it is important again for us to focus on 889 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 3: that grounds us, that unites us. And even if ninety 890 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 3: percent of everything else we disagree on, those are small 891 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 3: things compared to our foundational issues, and we are losing 892 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 3: our foundation right now. And I mean, you know, I 893 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 3: will accept some of the blame, not that I was 894 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 3: in office at the time, but Democrats should have been 895 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 3: fighting harder. They should have been fighting harder earlier. It 896 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: seems like there was just too much goodwill that was 897 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 3: given or expected of the other side, and again us 898 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 3: being good willed people, expected that of the opposition. And 899 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 3: the problem is they played us, and we had the 900 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 3: clues to see that they were playing us, and they 901 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 3: still did not adjust and fight back. We know that 902 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 3: most people were introduced to me when I broke quorum 903 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: as a state representative down in Texas and we were 904 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 3: fighting for voting rights then, and we were ringing the alarms, 905 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 3: and this is right before we went through redistricting, and 906 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 3: we were trying to tell them when we came to 907 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 3: DC and they passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, 908 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 3: and they passed the Freedom of Vote Act. Freedom to 909 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 3: Vote would have meant that you could not have an 910 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 3: Elon Musk buy an election. Yes, the House, we know 911 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act actually would 912 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: replace the Voting Rights Act because they had started to 913 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 3: tear it apart. It would replace it and fortify it. 914 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 3: And it passed the House, but the Senate refused to 915 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 3: go around the filibuster for something as foundational as our 916 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: voting rights, and because we did. 917 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: Not decide that it was that important. 918 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 3: We now are stuck in this position because we could 919 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 3: have a situation where the Supreme Court would have to 920 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 3: bend over backwards to undo law that was written in 921 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 3: and signed. We could be in that position, but we're 922 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 3: not right. We could have a situation where Elin could 923 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 3: not have spent the amount of money that he spent 924 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 3: in that election. We could have had a situation where 925 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: every state was required to have online voter registration so 926 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 3: that the access to your ballot looks similar, if not, 927 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 3: actually it would have equalized it and been the same. 928 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 3: Because in the state of Texas, we don't have online 929 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 3: voter registration, we don't have same day voter registration, we 930 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 3: don't have no excuse vote by mail. These are things 931 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 3: that California has. So California is able to stay blue 932 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 3: because they promote participation. But Republicans that the longest have 933 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 3: been pushing voter suppression because that is the only way 934 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 3: that they can win is if they minimize who it 935 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 3: is that is able to participate. But when we look 936 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 3: at the state of Georgia, Georgia ended up with two 937 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 3: Democratic senators once they increase their voter participation to something 938 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 3: like eighty something percent. 939 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: Thanks to Stacy Abrams. 940 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 3: Thanks to Stacy Abrams, Texas in twenty eighteen had an 941 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 3: opportunity to flip a Senate seat. Bettel or Work should 942 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 3: have won. Bettel lost by less than three points. But 943 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: what most people don't talk about is that we only 944 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 3: had seventeen percent voter turnout, seventeen percent and he only 945 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 3: lost by a little less than three points. Imagine if 946 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: we had gotten to twenty or twenty five percent. 947 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 2: I am telling you we could have won. We would win. 948 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 3: I am telling y'all that we are a majority minority 949 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 3: state and all they do is silence us and take 950 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 3: our power. And that is exact exactly what we are 951 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 3: experiencing now throughout this entire country, is that they want to. 952 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 2: Have minority rule. We have minority rule in Texas. 953 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 3: Not I can guarantee you if we had eighty five 954 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,479 Speaker 3: percent voter participation, Texas would not be a red voting state. 955 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 2: We would be blue. 956 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and then you might not be 957 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 1: dealing with the kinds of you know, disasters with everything 958 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: down to your power grid that you're dealing with now, 959 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: because you have people more interested in owning the Libs 960 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: than they do in serving their constituency. Now I know 961 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: I've kept you over, so I'm gonna skip to the end. 962 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: I always like to ask everybody this wonderful final question. 963 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: I want to ask you ten thousand more questions, but like, no, 964 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: you have elected official business to do. I've never told 965 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 1: someone what I want my work in progress to be 966 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: before I hear theirs. But I'm like, I just this 967 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: isn't even about me. This is just me being like 968 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: work in progress on the pin board of America in 969 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: Sofia's brain is please tell me at some way I'm 970 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: going to get to vote for Jasmine Crockett for president, 971 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: what is your work in progress? Because that's mine. I'm ready. 972 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm tribute number one on the campaign. 973 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: But I want to know for you whether it's you know, 974 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: service oriented, oriented for the people, or like even just 975 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: something personal like sometimes I want to be like, girl, 976 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: have you had a have you been able to go 977 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: for a walk? Do we need to get you a 978 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: gift card for a massage? Like you need a minute? 979 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: So it can really across the spectrum of personal to professional. 980 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: What feels like you're work in progress? 981 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 3: My work in progress is getting this country back on 982 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 3: track so that I can get out of politics. I mean, 983 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 3: I you know, I promise you, I ask myself over 984 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 3: and over and over, and then I get to go 985 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 3: home and I see the faces of the people that 986 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 3: I represent, or even as I travel of the country, 987 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 3: and the pure excitement and enthusiasm and hope that exist 988 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 3: even in the eyes of some of the youngest folks 989 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 3: that can't even vote yet, the inspiration that makes people 990 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 3: say I saw you and learn that you're a lawyer, 991 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 3: and I decided I'm going back to school, or I 992 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 3: decided now that I want to be a lawyer. Like 993 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 3: those are the things that keep me going. But I 994 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 3: never woke up any day of my life saying, you 995 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 3: know what, I want to grow up and be a politician. 996 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 3: That is not what I did, and it is not 997 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 3: where I stand today. But I truly believe that I 998 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: am necessary in this moment. I don't want to be necessary. 999 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: I just want to go out and do fun stuff. 1000 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 3: And yes, I'm a dork, so doing fun stuff means like, 1001 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 3: you know, practice in law, right, Like I actually liked 1002 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 3: going into the courtroom. And I'm pretty sure people probably 1003 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 3: read that all on me when I'm in committee. But 1004 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 3: I would like a more low key life, one where 1005 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 3: my friends and family get to see me more often, 1006 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 3: one where I get to take more trips because I 1007 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 3: always with someone and I. 1008 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 2: Actually travel a lot. 1009 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean I travel a lot now, but it is 1010 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,479 Speaker 3: not for pleasure. It is all for work, and so 1011 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 3: you know, I would like a more low key existence. 1012 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: I really am a girl's girl. 1013 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 3: You know this. You know I love my friends, and 1014 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm always cheating my friends because I 1015 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 3: put people that, honestly, a lot of them I've never 1016 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 3: met before, seemingly ahead of them. But the great thing 1017 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 3: about my real friends is that they have drunk the 1018 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 3: kool aid as well, and they all believe in this 1019 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,439 Speaker 3: mission that is on my life, and so I get 1020 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 3: great support. But it still doesn't stop me from being 1021 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 3: very human and feeling like I'm just not doing enough 1022 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 3: for the people that love me the most. So yeah, 1023 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 3: I would love to get out. It seems like it's 1024 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 3: not going that way, but. 1025 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: But that that would that would be my hope. 1026 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 3: If I woke up tomorrow and everything was right side 1027 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 3: up in this country, Uh, not perfect, but normal, I 1028 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 3: would probably resign. 1029 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: I probably would. I believe that this is a great. 1030 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 3: Honor, and I've learned so much, but I also believe 1031 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 3: that I should make space for others to come behind 1032 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 3: me and for them to learn and experience as well. 1033 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'm not tied to the title. I 1034 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 3: am tied to the mission, and it is it is 1035 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 3: my hope that home that the mission is complete, Sony now, 1036 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 3: and that you know, God doesn't tell me, whoop, You're 1037 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to go to another level to get more done. 1038 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 3: I can't say yeay or nay whether or not there 1039 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 3: will be another level, but I can guarantee you that 1040 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 3: if for some reason, Trump wakes up tomorrow and he 1041 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 3: hit his head and he fires everyone around him who 1042 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 3: has been engaged in all of the fraudulent and illegal 1043 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 3: activities that they are doing, and he somehow wakes up, 1044 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 3: finds Jesus and decides that he wants to try to 1045 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 3: get into the pearly gates that he said he knows 1046 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 3: he is not going to get into. 1047 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 2: At least he knows he's the devil. 1048 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 3: You know, Listen, if he woke up tomorrow and just 1049 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 3: turn a new leaf and became the president that we deserve, 1050 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 3: I would be out. 1051 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 2: I would be thankful and I would be out. 1052 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I think when you are a really dedicated public servant, 1053 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: you can put your own life on the back burner. 1054 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: But the people that you miss and that miss you 1055 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: also know you're doing it for them too, And so 1056 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: no matter how hard it gets, before it gets better, 1057 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: you give so many of us hope, and you fight 1058 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: with such love at the core of your spirit, and 1059 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: then you know you've got all the legal ease to 1060 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: back it up. And I'm just gone stillly like this 1061 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: watching you on the TV. So thank you. I'm going 1062 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: to let you get back to the floor and all 1063 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: the things that you're doing. I love and adore you. 1064 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm so proud to be in the same timeline as you, 1065 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: even if our timeline sucks right now, And next time 1066 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: you come to New York, I'm taking you out. 1067 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it's good to see you, my friend. 1068 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: You too, Thank you for your time today. 1069 01:01:51,400 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 3: All right bye, Oh,