Speaker 1: Like games over the world. You plenty to win the game.
Speaker 1: He's got it sucks down. You're listening to the official
Speaker 1: New York Jets podcast, a Jets three sixty production. All Right,
Speaker 1: we broke down Sam Donald. Everybody knows about Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: but the draft e a while Sam is important, is
Speaker 1: much more than just your first round pick. You know this.
Speaker 1: A lot of people know this, so we gotta dive
Speaker 1: in to the rest of the one to three, four,
Speaker 1: five other picks that the Jets had in the two
Speaker 1: eighteen draft. That was good math on my part. I
Speaker 1: know you're giving me the nod of approval, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. The other players Round three, Nathan Shepherd out
Speaker 1: of ford Hey State tight end, Chris Herndon Miami cornerback
Speaker 1: Perry Nickerson to lane fully followed Kassi. That's a phenomenal
Speaker 1: a Yukon defensive end or defensive lineman rather, and then
Speaker 1: Virginia State running back Trenton Cannon, who bramp Boyer likes
Speaker 1: very much. Per Trenton Cannon because he said special teams
Speaker 1: coordinator like me a lot. That's why I'm here, and
Speaker 1: he had a good feel like said as well. And
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnet said that too. I think fans are really
Speaker 1: gonna like Shephard. I think he just got a tremendous story.
Speaker 1: Raised in Canada playing a Division two ball uh the
Speaker 1: only school in Canada that actually plays Division to football
Speaker 1: against US competition. And then he had to leave school
Speaker 1: because of financial hardships, and he worked so many different
Speaker 1: odd jobs when he never gave up on the dream.
Speaker 1: And then he got the Fort Hayes State and he
Speaker 1: became the first player from Fort Hayes State drafted in
Speaker 1: more than three decades. I think he's a phenomenal story,
Speaker 1: and the Jets think they found great value there. Greens.
Speaker 1: You were Downomobile, Alabama reporting for US during Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: week and that guy really flashed the two days he
Speaker 1: practiced before breaking a stand. We're gonna speak to Dame
Speaker 1: Brugler of NFL Draft scout dot com. If you don't
Speaker 1: know about this, every year Dane comes out with what
Speaker 1: many people call the Draft Bible. He calls it a
Speaker 1: guy but it's a bible. It's two hundred sixty one pages.
Speaker 1: It breaks almost everyone down that you could ever imagine.
Speaker 1: Probably if you're listening to this, you don't know half
Speaker 1: the players in the book we did. I mean, this
Speaker 1: book goes far. He told us in February that the
Speaker 1: book really flexes its muscles when you're taking a seventh
Speaker 1: round tackle out of wagger. That's a direct quote. You
Speaker 1: can put that in the book. You can check the tape.
Speaker 1: That's what he said. And he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: provide some analysis on each and every one of Mike
Speaker 1: mcagnet's draft picks here and well, but basically, if you
Speaker 1: missed out on the book this year, you gotta be
Speaker 1: prepared for next year. He does it in the beginning
Speaker 1: of April, and everything you want to know about these guys,
Speaker 1: it's only ten dollars immediate pdf down will they have it?
Speaker 1: But more, what more could you ask for the millennial
Speaker 1: generation by a lot of new sounds like he might
Speaker 1: be in an agent business. Well you know, uh so,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what nice job by the jets Um
Speaker 1: really addressing the defensive line. That's what stood out for
Speaker 1: me post Donald as far as the two thousand and
Speaker 1: eighteen draft is concerned, because not only do you get Shepherd,
Speaker 1: but you come back in the sixth round and a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought you found great value there and
Speaker 1: fully fund Takasi and then you use your seventh round
Speaker 1: pick chip that to Indianapolis, who has become our frequent
Speaker 1: trading partner of Mike mccagnet. That relationship with Chris Bellard
Speaker 1: is a good one, a strong one from a business sense.
Speaker 1: And you get a guy and Henry Anderson's was a
Speaker 1: former third round picked who started sixteen games over his
Speaker 1: first three seasons. And people who asked, well, why was
Speaker 1: Anderson available? But very simply, I think it's the scheme.
Speaker 1: The Colts are moving from a three four to a
Speaker 1: four or three, while the Jets space is more of
Speaker 1: a three four, So maybe he can come in and
Speaker 1: become a rotational player as well. So the Jets got
Speaker 1: a lot of changes up front on that defensive line.
Speaker 1: We know they've released Mohammed Wilkerson in the off season,
Speaker 1: So these are guys are gonna come in and you
Speaker 1: figure be part of the rotation. You might have a
Speaker 1: guy like Nathan Shepherd. He could be out there first
Speaker 1: play night one night one, because the Jets opened up
Speaker 1: the NFL season on Monday night in the Motor City
Speaker 1: something l c A. I don't remember who, but someone
Speaker 1: pointed it out that Mike mccagan in his drafts prior
Speaker 1: to this year as general manager of the Jets, drafted
Speaker 1: from predominantly larger schools, and this draft features to Division
Speaker 1: two prospects of Nathan Shepherd and then Trent and Cannon,
Speaker 1: who closed out the class for the Jets. So it's
Speaker 1: a it's a bit of a the anomaly, but you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this with Dame Bruler. He believes
Speaker 1: that Shepherd and Cannon in particular, are both players that
Speaker 1: were well, Shepherd was a value picking. Cannon is someone
Speaker 1: that could have an impact on special teams immediately. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Shepard took care of the skeptics with what
Speaker 1: he did done in Mobile because he played against the
Speaker 1: big times of will Hernandez. He went in the second round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big time Division one competition in Future Pro. It's
Speaker 1: a great clip if you haven't looked if you haven't
Speaker 1: looked it up, just look it up. It's phenomenal. And
Speaker 1: then Cannon was an interesting pick because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that the Jets have a lot of debt that
Speaker 1: running back because they added Isaiah Crow out in the
Speaker 1: off season. The guy was productive with the Browns, the Angels,
Speaker 1: Blalpaul is still go on. He had, I believe again
Speaker 1: his best pro season last year. And then um Eli
Speaker 1: McGuire's in the mix as well. But yeah, Cannon will
Speaker 1: be in the mix from the get. As far as
Speaker 1: me and your top return man, well, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that the past couple of season the Jets really
Speaker 1: have had a revolving door as at the returner position.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back two years ago, Jalen
Speaker 1: Marshall made the team as an undrafted guy, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't really a returner. He made it as a receiver
Speaker 1: and they plugged him out there, and then after that
Speaker 1: you had I mean, I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 1: Nick Marshall, the former Auburn quarterback, was returning kicks that season,
Speaker 1: and then last year there was Lucky Whitehead, but he
Speaker 1: broke his foot, and then you had our d Areas
Speaker 1: Stewart back there a little bit, and then it ended
Speaker 1: up being Joe Joe Nats in for the significant part
Speaker 1: of the second half of the season, and the justice
Speaker 1: recently waived. They forementioned Nets and and another guy would
Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't mention is of course Andre Roberts,
Speaker 1: the guy guy. Well, he was brought in this year. Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot of return experience. So I'm just saying is
Speaker 1: that we can't give the job to can and just exactly.
Speaker 1: But the Jets and Lucky Whitehead is coming back to Yes,
Speaker 1: but the Jets do like his ability back there and
Speaker 1: his potential as a return man. So all in all,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at this draft class, the
Speaker 1: Jets didn't have any second rounders, but you gotta give
Speaker 1: him a magnet credit for a couple of things. Is
Speaker 1: that he was aggressive by moving up and sending a
Speaker 1: pair of second rounders this year. One of those was
Speaker 1: acquired in the Germaine Curse for Sheldon Richardson swap before
Speaker 1: the season opener last year, and the Jets get Sam
Speaker 1: Donald without giving up a first round pick next year.
Speaker 1: They did give up a second round pick next year,
Speaker 1: but they do have their one in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: It's funny how things work out sometimes, isn't it. But
Speaker 1: without further ado, we gotta bring in Dame Bruegler to
Speaker 1: break down the Jets draft class. Alrighty eight, let's bring
Speaker 1: in NFL Draft scout dot COM's Dame Bruegler. Follow him
Speaker 1: on Twitter at DP Bruegler Dane. Everybody that follows the
Speaker 1: Jets knows about Sam Donald. We want to get your
Speaker 1: take on him as well. But real quickly, let's dive
Speaker 1: into the third round. Because you love Nathan Shepherd out
Speaker 1: of ford Hey State. That's someone that you pegged as
Speaker 1: a great value get from Mike mccagnell, Greens. This is
Speaker 1: a power removed. He went right by Sam darl right
Speaker 1: the Shepherd. I'm okay with that because Shepherd, Shepherd, I'm
Speaker 1: really excited about. And I first I had a scout
Speaker 1: tipped me off about him back in October about this
Speaker 1: Division two kids just tearing it up, and so I
Speaker 1: popped on the tape and I don't care where you
Speaker 1: play him nose tackle, outside the offensive tackle, over the
Speaker 1: B gap and he's just dominating Division two competition. And
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of said, okay, that's great, but
Speaker 1: you know, he's twenty four years old. He's playing against
Speaker 1: interior competition, no one that's gonna be playing at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. But then he goes to the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and he looks fantastic. Uh, if you're right from the
Speaker 1: get go, he had a nice, nice week unfortunately, and
Speaker 1: only last two practices because he broke his hand um,
Speaker 1: which was unfortunate. But in the two practices we did
Speaker 1: see him one on ones. He was terrorizing will Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Uh the Giants new guard. He was terrorizing anybody they
Speaker 1: put in front of him. So, Nathan Shepherd, I do
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a little bit of a learning
Speaker 1: curve as he goes from uh, you know, Ford Hay
Speaker 1: State to the NFL level. Um, this is not a
Speaker 1: guy who was a big time recruit and you know,
Speaker 1: transferred a Division two and all that. You know, he
Speaker 1: was a Canadian native. It was a two poud linebacker
Speaker 1: in high school. Uh you know, kind of had to
Speaker 1: you know, find his path to go to Ford Hay
Speaker 1: State and developed there. So I'm eager to see what
Speaker 1: what he developed into. Uh a little bit older in October,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of ability there. Dan.
Speaker 1: He's a fascinating story. Is we know he started off
Speaker 1: playing Division to college football in Vancouver, British Columbia, and
Speaker 1: then he left football for a little bit, was working
Speaker 1: at a plant nursery doing some construction. Then he started training,
Speaker 1: never lost the love for football, was doing a thousand
Speaker 1: push ups a day, like my man Ethan Greenberg over
Speaker 1: here and then. But when I asked Todd Bulls about
Speaker 1: Nathan Shepherd, he kept on coming back to one thing.
Speaker 1: Heavy hands. What can you tell me about this guy's hands?
Speaker 1: Is a grown man and he plays like he's got
Speaker 1: over ten inch hands, but not only his hands, but
Speaker 1: his speech. He's very nimble his lower body and so
Speaker 1: that allows him to stay free with his upper body.
Speaker 1: And he's got those hammer hands where he's going to
Speaker 1: make it tough for blockers to latch on control him.
Speaker 1: He's very aggressive. You see the finishing mentality. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a beast and it really it's it's funny because
Speaker 1: the best part about these prospects in doing and scouting
Speaker 1: and evaluating for me is the journey that they have
Speaker 1: to take. And you know, you laid it out on
Speaker 1: his background. I went back to his his high school
Speaker 1: career and he actually played the Beast and beauty the
Speaker 1: Beast his senior year in high school. So this guy
Speaker 1: has been a beast off the field and on the field.
Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch. What about Chris Herndon the
Speaker 1: tight end from Miami. Do you think that was good
Speaker 1: value there in the fourth round, and maybe when we
Speaker 1: look back, it was blessing in disguise for the Jets
Speaker 1: anyway that the guy suffers minor knee injury against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: has to miss some offseason workouts, and he's still there
Speaker 1: in the fourth round because what I see from him, Dane,
Speaker 1: is that production wise ascending in terms of receptions each
Speaker 1: and every year. He looks like more than a willing blocker.
Speaker 1: And also he is a guy who has some potential
Speaker 1: making some yards down the field with the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands. Yeah, no question. And you know you mentioned
Speaker 1: the knee injury. He uh, it was an m cl
Speaker 1: injury and it left me. He just hated to see
Speaker 1: it because he was having such a good senior season,
Speaker 1: putting himself on the map um as being one of,
Speaker 1: uh maybe a top five tight end in this class
Speaker 1: before the injury. Uh, so you hated to see it,
Speaker 1: But like you said, beyond blessing of disguise for the
Speaker 1: Jets because they get him on day three and round four. Uh.
Speaker 1: When David and Joku for srouders the Browns last year
Speaker 1: when he left, that really gave Herndon the chance to
Speaker 1: step up this past year as a senior, and he did.
Speaker 1: He was a big part of that offense, bracting burials
Speaker 1: as the top receiver. But Herndon he was he was
Speaker 1: right there in terms of being an option on that offense.
Speaker 1: And so he said, a lot of bubble screens, a
Speaker 1: lot of underneath routes, a lot of give him a
Speaker 1: chance to catch and go, get the ball in his hand,
Speaker 1: let him create after the catch. My biggest worry with him,
Speaker 1: or my biggest thing I want him to improve, is
Speaker 1: just I need to see a little bit more dog
Speaker 1: in him. I need to see a little more aggression,
Speaker 1: and that's finishing as a ball carrier, and then as
Speaker 1: a blocker he'll get a position, he'll lock up the defenders.
Speaker 1: I just want to see a little more toughness, a
Speaker 1: little more mean to just be a better finisher. But
Speaker 1: you like the athletic versatility. I mean he lined up
Speaker 1: everywhere in that offense. He was a full back, played
Speaker 1: in line, played in the slot. Can do a lot
Speaker 1: of things. He's a fluid route runner. He moved very
Speaker 1: well for a size. So I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about Herndon and being just an underneath receiver
Speaker 1: who can be flexed all over the offense. I want
Speaker 1: to jump around a little bit, not too far ahead.
Speaker 1: But in the sixth round, the Jets had three picks
Speaker 1: and with their second pick they drafted a guy out
Speaker 1: of Yukon with the name full runsu Fa to Kassi.
Speaker 1: And when the Jets truth be told when the Jets
Speaker 1: drafted him, I said, I gotta look at Dane draft
Speaker 1: Bible and lo and behold you had him as your
Speaker 1: thirteenth ranked defensive lineman and the Jets got him in
Speaker 1: the sixth round. What do you like about photo Kasi?
Speaker 1: Yeah he should have been. If not, I gave a
Speaker 1: third round grade. So I thought, okay, once we get
Speaker 1: into the fourth round, this is good value. And here
Speaker 1: the Jet skim has six round. There's so much to
Speaker 1: like about him. And you watch Yukon, especially on defense,
Speaker 1: is not much to like except when you go up
Speaker 1: front and you see number nineties three just demolishing blockers
Speaker 1: in his path. Talking about heavy hands with napsan shepherd,
Speaker 1: that's what Photocosi has. Violence in his hands. He can stack,
Speaker 1: shed the point of his attack. He's more of that
Speaker 1: nose tackle, that one technique who is gonna occupy blocks
Speaker 1: and clog up interior run lane. But there were times
Speaker 1: when they'd move them out to more of a three
Speaker 1: technique position. Let him line up over the gap, and
Speaker 1: you see some of that quickness where he can get
Speaker 1: up the field and get into the pocket. And so
Speaker 1: there's potocosty. I see position flexibility, nose tackle three technique.
Speaker 1: I think he could be a fine UH five technique
Speaker 1: if you wanted to play him there. He's got long arms,
Speaker 1: he's a big kid, so there's a lot to like
Speaker 1: about him. I don't know why he fell in the
Speaker 1: sixth round. I thought that was one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why the Jets in general g draft grades. But what
Speaker 1: I do is I pick out my top five favorite
Speaker 1: draft classes. I go through all three two teams and
Speaker 1: pick out my five favorites, and Pardocosti was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I put the Jets the second best draft
Speaker 1: class among all thirty two teams this year. What do
Speaker 1: you make of from Perry Nickerson, the cornerback from two lane.
Speaker 1: He's a guy who said played mostly on the outside.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks are saying that potentially on the
Speaker 1: pro level now he could make a transition inside. A
Speaker 1: fast guy if you can keep them healthy. What kind
Speaker 1: of ceiling is Nickerson have? Yeah, a little undersize two pounds,
Speaker 1: but he's a twitchy athlete. You see him able to
Speaker 1: mirror routes up the line of scrimmage. You see him
Speaker 1: able to carry receivers down the field. He's got makeup speed,
Speaker 1: so when he does lose the step, he's able to
Speaker 1: make it up and recover. Uh. And he's a four
Speaker 1: year starter. He loved the ball production forty six starts
Speaker 1: in college, he had forty seven passes defended and sometimes
Speaker 1: staffed in college production can be a little misleading. Something
Speaker 1: that I've found over years and years of doing this
Speaker 1: passes defended for defensive backs. That's usually the one stat
Speaker 1: that I can point to that translates very well. If
Speaker 1: you're able to get your hands on the ball as
Speaker 1: a defensive back, that translates well at the next level.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to do that. In the NFL,
Speaker 1: he had ten interceptions the last two years, So the
Speaker 1: productions off the charts. Again, he's just a little undersize,
Speaker 1: and that will show against bigger, more physical fevers. That
Speaker 1: will show on run support. And so as long as
Speaker 1: he's able to not allow that to be too much
Speaker 1: of an issue in the NFL. He's going to be
Speaker 1: a solid crow I think probably best in that nickel.
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Brie and Body Calhoun
Speaker 1: for the Browns, who's carved out a nice little career
Speaker 1: for himself as a nickel corner up in Cleveland. And
Speaker 1: then lastly here Trenton Cannon, the Jets final pick of
Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen NFL Draft class day. That's someone
Speaker 1: that on Twitter you said that he was much faster
Speaker 1: than his competition. And I know that you liked his
Speaker 1: tape because you tweeted about it right after the Jets
Speaker 1: selected him. I know that speaking with him, he said
Speaker 1: that special teams coordinator brand Foyer really liked him and
Speaker 1: in fact, he worked him out separately down in Virginia State.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about Cannon's projection on the
Speaker 1: next level, not only as a running back but as
Speaker 1: a returner as well. Yeah, he was just really productive
Speaker 1: at Virginia State. He started at Shepherd Division two, when
Speaker 1: went to Virginia State, finished his career. Uh, you love
Speaker 1: the production average over seven yards of carry the last
Speaker 1: two years. Was a factor as a receiver, out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, and yeah, like I said, he just looks
Speaker 1: like he's moving at a different speed than everybody else
Speaker 1: on the fields, not only a short area burst, but
Speaker 1: then the long speed. And he followed it up by
Speaker 1: his pro day, ran a four four zero in the
Speaker 1: forty yard dash, had a thirty and a half inch
Speaker 1: vert So the testing numbers matches what you see on
Speaker 1: the tape. Not the biggest guy, he's five pounds, but
Speaker 1: he's that slashing ball carrier who has the versatility to
Speaker 1: help you in the passing game and then the versatility
Speaker 1: to help you on special team. The average over thirty
Speaker 1: yards per return on kickoff. He had three return scores
Speaker 1: over the last two years. So he's a guy that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a weapon whether you put him
Speaker 1: on offense on special team. UM eager to see what
Speaker 1: he can do. Again, not the biggest guy, but you
Speaker 1: just get the ball in his hand, he can make
Speaker 1: something happen. All right, this is the Official Jets Podcast.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Dane Brugler, who knows the draft better
Speaker 1: than anybody in the United States, so probably the world.
Speaker 1: Uh Dane UM. Four quarterbacks taken in the top ten.
Speaker 1: Of course, Baker Mayfield goes one to Cleveland. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: goes three here to the Jets. The Bills move up
Speaker 1: and get Josh Allen out of Wyoming at number seven,
Speaker 1: and then Arizona moves up takes Josh Rosen out of
Speaker 1: U c L A number ten overall. Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 1: the final quarterbacks selected in the first round, number thirty
Speaker 1: two overall to the Baltimore Ravens. Putting you on the
Speaker 1: spot here in eight to ten years, who of this
Speaker 1: group is going to be above the rust? That's a
Speaker 1: great question, and I think you could really make a
Speaker 1: case for several of these of these quarterbacks. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, he's going to an opportunity where he's
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting and learning, and you know they'll bring
Speaker 1: him along at his own pace. But you could say
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Dortal in New York. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's something to be said about
Speaker 1: having a veteran presence like Josh McCown where you know,
Speaker 1: in most of you Asians, Uh, you add a rookie,
Speaker 1: highly drafted rookie to a quarterback room that has an
Speaker 1: established veteran, that established veterans not helping the rookie because
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him. You know, he wants to
Speaker 1: win the job. He wants to you know, it's competition.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's not like he's you know, going
Speaker 1: to you know, shun the player, but he's just not
Speaker 1: going to go out of his way to help him.
Speaker 1: And I think we saw that that's the and that's
Speaker 1: the way Tony Romo was with Dak Prescott. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just something that and I don't blame Tony Romo
Speaker 1: at all. I he wants to compete for the job.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to feel like he's grooming his replacement.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's going to be an issue
Speaker 1: with Josh McCown. I think he's you know, everyone knows
Speaker 1: he's the ultimate pro, the ultimate veteran, and I think
Speaker 1: he will have no issues helping Sam Donald's in the
Speaker 1: quarterback room and practice and just you know, digesting the
Speaker 1: playbook and having an understanding of what the offense expect
Speaker 1: of him and so what it means to be a pro.
Speaker 1: So Sam Donald going to a great situation. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: don't see him on the field right away, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to obviously a situation where
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be the case Teddy Bridgewater McCown. But you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see how that quarterback situation works out. So I
Speaker 1: think Sam Donald went into the draft as my top quarterback.
Speaker 1: I graded him as such. Um, so I would say,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, that's where I would leading if we're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, project this out, uh for the future. I
Speaker 1: think not only Donald going to a good situation, but
Speaker 1: I think he's the best quarterback of this group. I
Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield, you know, he's right there. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was a reach at number one. I graded
Speaker 1: him as a top ten player overall in this draft.
Speaker 1: So very eager to see what he does in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And then Rosen going to Arizona. I wouldn't shock me
Speaker 1: if he beat out Sam Bradford right away as a
Speaker 1: rookie as the starter in week one and Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little bush on him. We'll have
Speaker 1: to wait and see how that plays out. I think
Speaker 1: he probably has the least amount of competition in his way.
Speaker 1: You know. AJ McCarron, uh, you know, is he's a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in this league? Um, I don't know. We'll
Speaker 1: the if, uh, if they're able to keep Josh Allen
Speaker 1: on the bench, or if they feel like you need
Speaker 1: to get him some uh some in game reps as
Speaker 1: a rookie. But I would to answer your question, I
Speaker 1: would go back to Donald. I think that not only
Speaker 1: is he the top quarterback, but I think he is uh,
Speaker 1: he's going to a good situation and hopefully there's some
Speaker 1: you know, the coach continuity moving forward, you know, not
Speaker 1: having to learn multiple playbooks in the next few years,
Speaker 1: that type of thing. Um, So I would I would
Speaker 1: look at the first two quarterbacks drafted, Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: Damn Donald as maybe having the best for the eight
Speaker 1: ten years. So I really put you on the spot there.
Speaker 1: But that was a great explanation. What it's going to
Speaker 1: be the most significant part of his transition. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you think he's going to a good situation. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: not playing right away obviously in week one when the
Speaker 1: Jets open the season Monday Night football against the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lines in the Motor City. With that being said, I
Speaker 1: know you like a lot of qualities he brings to
Speaker 1: the table. What does he have to get better at
Speaker 1: as he makes this jump from playing on Saturdays to
Speaker 1: playing on Sundays. I think it's just digesting the playbook
Speaker 1: and understanding what the offense wants to do. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be so much more verbage, so much more various different concepts,
Speaker 1: uh in an NFL playbook compared to what he saw
Speaker 1: at USC. I know that's with some teams who put
Speaker 1: him on the white board were surprised just how inexperienced
Speaker 1: he is. You know, from an exit of an O standpoint, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a very great, smart individual. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: just in college that the number one goal of college
Speaker 1: offensive coaches is not to prepare you for the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's to win football games. And so you're going to
Speaker 1: simplify things. You're going to make things easier on the
Speaker 1: quarterback so he can do his job. And you know,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald as a freshman and then as a sophomore,
Speaker 1: I mean still a young guy, only started one year
Speaker 1: as a high school quarterback. So you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's going to be it's just going to be diving
Speaker 1: into the playbook, understanding everything, and then you know it's
Speaker 1: being it uh performed on the field. And so I
Speaker 1: think that that's going to be the biggest jump for him.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, Before we close up shop here on
Speaker 1: the Officially DOES podcast, I just want to circle back
Speaker 1: to two things. One is we talked about Nathan Shepherd
Speaker 1: and Fully Photokosi. You like them both? Are they similar
Speaker 1: in the way they play? You know, how do you
Speaker 1: think they've complement each other on the Jets defensive line?
Speaker 1: And then a second unrelated question is of the Jets
Speaker 1: picks outside of Donald, who is someone that you could
Speaker 1: see making the most immediate impact of the bunch, Whether
Speaker 1: it's Shepherd, Herndon Nickerson, Fully or Trenton Cannon. That's a
Speaker 1: good question. Um. I think with Shepherd and PIEDOCOTSI h
Speaker 1: Shepherd's I think he's more. I think they're both interchangeable
Speaker 1: in terms of the different positions they can play. I
Speaker 1: think Shepherd's probably more of that because he's a better
Speaker 1: just a better athlete. He can move a lot better.
Speaker 1: So I think Shepherd um that versatility that he brings. Uh,
Speaker 1: whether you want to line up inside outside, I think
Speaker 1: that's really gonna be excusing his calling card. Um moving
Speaker 1: forward and find a coffee. I think he's best served
Speaker 1: on the interior over either over the a gap over
Speaker 1: the over the center as a nose, more traditional guy
Speaker 1: in the middle. So I think Nathan Shepard just has
Speaker 1: a little bit more versatility because of his skill set.
Speaker 1: And then if I were to pick one of these
Speaker 1: date three players who are going to have the most
Speaker 1: immediate impact, probably Nickerson because he's played a lot of football.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's not going to be
Speaker 1: uh put into a situation where you know, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna understand what's going on. And with we we see
Speaker 1: so many sub packages now nickels dime coverages. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: all it takes is one injury. Uh, and you know
Speaker 1: he's going to see the field pretty quickly. And you know,
Speaker 1: like I said about the production that he had a
Speaker 1: to lane forty seven paths is defended and he had
Speaker 1: ten picks just in the last two years. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can get his hands on a
Speaker 1: ball or two. Because there might be some bumps in
Speaker 1: the road because of his size, because he is the
Speaker 1: wonder size, but if he has a chance to make
Speaker 1: a play, he's not gonna let that opportunity to be wasted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And do you already have a big board out for
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I've been working on it. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what they it's that's the worst article I do
Speaker 1: every year. That's uh, that's what the box that say
Speaker 1: I have to do. So it's gonna be a defensive
Speaker 1: line heavy draft next year. It's gonna be some fun.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about a Bosta from Ohio State. It could
Speaker 1: be a top pick maybe in two thousand nineteen. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a betting man at Oliver defensive
Speaker 1: tackles from Houston or Nick both the defensive end from
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Those are the two clear favorites to possibly
Speaker 1: be the top pick next year, and both both are deserving,
Speaker 1: Both are outstanding players. I'm gonna get a final one
Speaker 1: in here. I'm jumping in because you've got me excited.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks for next year. We always talk about the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like this is the last quarterback class. But every
Speaker 1: year that changes, do you know? And by the time
Speaker 1: we get the February and we're talking to Dame brew
Speaker 1: Glare at the combine, they're gonna be some hot names
Speaker 1: out there. And and the kid from Missouri and I
Speaker 1: don't even know if he's gonna be a senior. But
Speaker 1: people are talking about Drew Lock, I believe. And and
Speaker 1: then also there's somebody the other days to mention to
Speaker 1: me in passing and Shade Patterson or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if these guys are coming out,
Speaker 1: but uh, he's twenty, he's just getting over the draft.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even want to look at Yeah, there were
Speaker 1: there's a lot of one certainty with next year's quarterback class.
Speaker 1: And he mentioned Drew Lock. He's kind of in that
Speaker 1: Josh Allen mix where he's the physical traits are there,
Speaker 1: it's just he needs to take a big step of
Speaker 1: a senior from Missouri. Uh. And she has an eighteen
Speaker 1: for him to put himself in the first round, which
Speaker 1: I think he's capable of doing. And then Shaye Patterson
Speaker 1: making the move from Ole, miss to Michigan, a talker
Speaker 1: crew coming out of high school, plenty of ability. We'll
Speaker 1: see what hardback can do when you know he gets
Speaker 1: his myths on him. If you were the names through
Speaker 1: out there, Jared did him from Auburn, Nick FitzGeralds from
Speaker 1: Missi State, Clayton Dorriston Northwestern, we don't have of I
Speaker 1: don't think it's Sam Donald that's creating all all this
Speaker 1: buzz a year out at the quarterback position. But there's
Speaker 1: plenty of names that have talent and that could emerge
Speaker 1: as the first round quarterbacks over the next year. Good news, though,
Speaker 1: Jazz fans. You don't have to worry about it. Sam, Darnald,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, is it yet? You gotta follow this guy
Speaker 1: on Twitter. That's Dame Bruegler at DP Brugler Dane, thanks
Speaker 1: a lot. We're gonna look forward to your draft Bible
Speaker 1: next year. But that's the ways the way I know
Speaker 1: you don't want to think about it. We don't want
Speaker 1: to think about it either, So enjoy your rest. Thanks
Speaker 1: a lot, and we'll talk to you soon. Enjoy it, you, guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Dame Brugler ranking the Jets number two overall
Speaker 1: in his draft books. Yeah, no grades from Dane, but
Speaker 1: just nu miracle. Yeah he looks. He says that these
Speaker 1: are the top five draft classes or draft classes he liked,
Speaker 1: and uh he put the Jets right behind the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: who I liked what the Bears did too, Like season
Speaker 1: of Trobinsky. I love ro Kwan Smith, though I know
Speaker 1: you do. Smith's your guy. I really think He's gonna
Speaker 1: be study in the National Football League. I like, personally
Speaker 1: the Jets will see the Bears this year. Yes they well, yes,
Speaker 1: I liked well the James Daniels picking the second round. Also,
Speaker 1: but that Anthony Miller, the receiver out of Memphis, he
Speaker 1: broke his foot, you know, didn't I don't think he
Speaker 1: ran the forty at the combine and then full health
Speaker 1: for his pro day. He goes in the third round.
Speaker 1: And not to harp on the Bears real quick, but
Speaker 1: when you pair them up with their new head coach
Speaker 1: Naggy and then you add Allan Robinson Trey Burton, you
Speaker 1: never know, do you? Like I said, it's they'll be
Speaker 1: facing New Jack City. Yeah, that off season of true
Speaker 1: whisky versus New Jack City. Believe it's uh October, I
Speaker 1: think in the Windy City. Okay, I think Well fans
Speaker 1: have to do now in terms of the Jets, is
Speaker 1: we gotta look back to January and say, okay, where
Speaker 1: was this team in January? We knew they had a
Speaker 1: lot of up space, We knew they had the number
Speaker 1: six overall selection in the draft. Other than that, we
Speaker 1: have to see how they want about their business now.
Speaker 1: I think we can take a deep breath and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where they plug some holes in free agency.
Speaker 1: The headliner of the class, no doubt was Drew may Johnson,
Speaker 1: but Avery Williamson is a guy who, to bol said,
Speaker 1: is a techning beast. So he's gonna be an inside
Speaker 1: linebacker playing next to Darren Lee, and he gives you
Speaker 1: some youth a little bit younger than Demoro Davis. Demorrow
Speaker 1: Davis had a great year last year for the Jets.
Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the ball, I
Speaker 1: know people were asking me on Twitter and Mike Mike
Speaker 1: mckagnan got a lot of questions about this two Greens
Speaker 1: during a season ticket holder conference call. A lot of
Speaker 1: people were like, hey, you didn't address the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's particularly fair, because the Jets
Speaker 1: did side Special Long, who figures that you can puncil
Speaker 1: on him and probably is starter. But you got Travis Swanson,
Speaker 1: who with the former Detroit Lion, he's got some position flexibility.
Speaker 1: He can play guard as well. Todd Bowles likes that
Speaker 1: both of these guys can play center and guard. I
Speaker 1: would think that Long is probably the favorite to be
Speaker 1: your starter there. And then the Jets added to their
Speaker 1: depth by resigning a number of guys, including Dakota Dozer
Speaker 1: and Brian Winters just said the other day that he
Speaker 1: played the two thousand and seventeen season with the torn
Speaker 1: abdomen and he wouldn't even he wouldn't even wish that
Speaker 1: upon you. His worst out of me Greens, So I
Speaker 1: just don't know, I would think. My point is that,
Speaker 1: so you can't do everything in the draft. You really can't.
Speaker 1: It's not possible. You only had six picks. You did
Speaker 1: the best you could with him. I think a lot
Speaker 1: later in the draft, you go to best player available.
Speaker 1: Early in the draft. You want to mirror that merge
Speaker 1: that connected as best as you can the best player
Speaker 1: available and potential positioning. A couple of things here for
Speaker 1: me is one is you know you can't fix everything
Speaker 1: in one off season. And something that I liked is
Speaker 1: that Mike mccagnet didn't spend to spend. He didn't say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we have this money. You know, It's like when you
Speaker 1: get a paycheck, you're not just gonna go blow it
Speaker 1: all away on let's say, I'm just gonna say a
Speaker 1: car or a house, whatever it is, right, it could
Speaker 1: be a suit. It could be a pack of gom
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Whatever you want to blow your money on.
Speaker 1: You don't just spend to spend. That's how you end
Speaker 1: up in a hole. Well and Mike mccagnan didn't do that,
Speaker 1: your selective spending jets that are not in a hole.
Speaker 1: In fact, they have more money, yes than anybody heading
Speaker 1: into the two thousand eighteen off season or two thousand
Speaker 1: nineteen off season, whatever you want to call it, following
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eighteen campaign, and they found potentially
Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback while filling holes all along the way
Speaker 1: and getting younger at a number of positions on offensive
Speaker 1: side of ball. You think about guys like Is Kroll,
Speaker 1: who's had a lot of production in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You think about a guy like Teverrell Pryor. That's someone
Speaker 1: that I'm very excited interesting Peace Greens because guy had
Speaker 1: he's huge and he can fly. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: look at his heightweight on paper and then you see
Speaker 1: him in person. This guy is a monster. He's lanky,
Speaker 1: he said he can fly, and I think when you
Speaker 1: add him in the mix with Robby Anderson's your main curse.
Speaker 1: Quincy and Nonla I mean, this dude is correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. He's probably the biggest guy since Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall was on this team a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean he's of similar size and well faster. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Brandon Marshall. At my point, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying either. He's just he's an imposing figure and
Speaker 1: a potential number one receiver. Well maybe my point on
Speaker 1: him was, see your point right there. He said a potential.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put a number on it, but
Speaker 1: the only number I'll throw matches. He was a thousand
Speaker 1: yard receiver in Cleveland in two thousand and sixteen. Yes,
Speaker 1: his numbers were down last year. He was also banged up.
Speaker 1: Let's see what he can do here, paired with the
Speaker 1: Jets medical staff. Oh, speaking of the jetz medical staff,
Speaker 1: they kept Morris Clayborn healthy last year and the Jets
Speaker 1: resigned him as well. And Morris was you want to
Speaker 1: talk about numbers whatever, He'll be playing opposite Tremaine Johnson.
Speaker 1: I like those corners. And then you have your second
Speaker 1: year safeties who really flashed in year one, and you know,
Speaker 1: and the other position where people are talking about, well,
Speaker 1: why him the Jets addressed tight end. Wow, I think
Speaker 1: I gotta go and say this right now, Let's see
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. But Eric Thomlinson, they like
Speaker 1: him as a blocker. We know that they got high
Speaker 1: hopes for Jordan Leggott as a receiver. We have not
Speaker 1: seen Jordan Leggatt on the field since he played that
Speaker 1: preseason game in Detroit last year and then Herndon. This
Speaker 1: guy from Miami seems like a mix of the both.
Speaker 1: He's a guy can block and he's also a guy
Speaker 1: who can give you something in the receiving game. So
Speaker 1: let's see if the depth chart looks like that. If
Speaker 1: it's those three guys also picked up some other guys
Speaker 1: along the way here in the off season, another Miami
Speaker 1: tight end as well, right, Clive waal Ferst Bucky Hodges
Speaker 1: as well, and Neil Sterling is here. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think it's way too early to say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Jets are doing here at tight.
Speaker 1: I want to see what Jorge Lake can do. I
Speaker 1: want to see what they all can do. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: You are clearly excited. Long story short, Jets Nation, you
Speaker 1: should be excited because the arrow is pointing up for
Speaker 1: the Jets and team we'll see how it all plays
Speaker 1: out in just a few months. But again, this is
Speaker 1: the official Jets podcast. Ethan Greenberke, Eric Allen in studio.
Speaker 1: We had a record breaking April in terms of numbers.
Speaker 1: I think, well, no doubt, let's keep the train goll.
Speaker 1: The arrow is pointing up for the team, The arrows
Speaker 1: pointing up for the night job Brugler phenomenal again. You
Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at dp Bruegler, and that
Speaker 1: puts a bull in the draft right all right, until
Speaker 1: next time.