WEBVTT - 2018 Draft Analysis (5/5) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.080 Like games over the world. You plenty to win the game. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:18.840 He's got it sucks down. You're listening to the official 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:25.000 New York Jets podcast, a Jets three sixty production. All Right, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.800 we broke down Sam Donald. Everybody knows about Sam Donald, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.120 but the draft e a while Sam is important, is 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.400 much more than just your first round pick. You know this. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.600 A lot of people know this, so we gotta dive 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.000 in to the rest of the one to three, four, 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.360 five other picks that the Jets had in the two 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.640 eighteen draft. That was good math on my part. I 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.400 know you're giving me the nod of approval, Thank you 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.639 very much. The other players Round three, Nathan Shepherd out 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:55.520 of ford Hey State tight end, Chris Herndon Miami cornerback 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.880 Perry Nickerson to lane fully followed Kassi. That's a phenomenal 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.360 a Yukon defensive end or defensive lineman rather, and then 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.839 Virginia State running back Trenton Cannon, who bramp Boyer likes 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.240 very much. Per Trenton Cannon because he said special teams 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.280 coordinator like me a lot. That's why I'm here, and 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.000 he had a good feel like said as well. And 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.600 Mike mccagnet said that too. I think fans are really 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.480 gonna like Shephard. I think he just got a tremendous story. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.440 Raised in Canada playing a Division two ball uh the 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:31.360 only school in Canada that actually plays Division to football 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.720 against US competition. And then he had to leave school 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.679 because of financial hardships, and he worked so many different 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.839 odd jobs when he never gave up on the dream. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.760 And then he got the Fort Hayes State and he 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.920 became the first player from Fort Hayes State drafted in 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.720 more than three decades. I think he's a phenomenal story, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.120 and the Jets think they found great value there. Greens. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.120 You were Downomobile, Alabama reporting for US during Senior Bowl 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.760 week and that guy really flashed the two days he 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.360 practiced before breaking a stand. We're gonna speak to Dame 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.680 Brugler of NFL Draft scout dot com. If you don't 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.040 know about this, every year Dane comes out with what 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.760 many people call the Draft Bible. He calls it a 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.720 guy but it's a bible. It's two hundred sixty one pages. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.560 It breaks almost everyone down that you could ever imagine. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.160 Probably if you're listening to this, you don't know half 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.959 the players in the book we did. I mean, this 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.320 book goes far. He told us in February that the 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.639 book really flexes its muscles when you're taking a seventh 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.799 round tackle out of wagger. That's a direct quote. You 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.600 can put that in the book. You can check the tape. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.120 That's what he said. And he's gonna be able to 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.919 provide some analysis on each and every one of Mike 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.799 mcagnet's draft picks here and well, but basically, if you 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.000 missed out on the book this year, you gotta be 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.760 prepared for next year. He does it in the beginning 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.040 of April, and everything you want to know about these guys, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.880 it's only ten dollars immediate pdf down will they have it? 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.480 But more, what more could you ask for the millennial 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.480 generation by a lot of new sounds like he might 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.720 be in an agent business. Well you know, uh so, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.600 I'll tell you what nice job by the jets Um 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.760 really addressing the defensive line. That's what stood out for 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.519 me post Donald as far as the two thousand and 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.160 eighteen draft is concerned, because not only do you get Shepherd, 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.040 but you come back in the sixth round and a 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.200 lot of people thought you found great value there and 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.120 fully fund Takasi and then you use your seventh round 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.000 pick chip that to Indianapolis, who has become our frequent 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.480 trading partner of Mike mccagnet. That relationship with Chris Bellard 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.760 is a good one, a strong one from a business sense. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.720 And you get a guy and Henry Anderson's was a 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.120 former third round picked who started sixteen games over his 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.200 first three seasons. And people who asked, well, why was 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.320 Anderson available? But very simply, I think it's the scheme. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.720 The Colts are moving from a three four to a 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.160 four or three, while the Jets space is more of 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.840 a three four, So maybe he can come in and 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.280 become a rotational player as well. So the Jets got 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.840 a lot of changes up front on that defensive line. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.800 We know they've released Mohammed Wilkerson in the off season, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.840 So these are guys are gonna come in and you 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.880 figure be part of the rotation. You might have a 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.159 guy like Nathan Shepherd. He could be out there first 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.280 play night one night one, because the Jets opened up 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.400 the NFL season on Monday night in the Motor City 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.360 something l c A. I don't remember who, but someone 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:31.239 pointed it out that Mike mccagan in his drafts prior 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.880 to this year as general manager of the Jets, drafted 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:39.560 from predominantly larger schools, and this draft features to Division 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.560 two prospects of Nathan Shepherd and then Trent and Cannon, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.160 who closed out the class for the Jets. So it's 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.520 a it's a bit of a the anomaly, but you know, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.960 we're gonna get into this with Dame Bruler. He believes 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.080 that Shepherd and Cannon in particular, are both players that 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.080 were well, Shepherd was a value picking. Cannon is someone 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.040 that could have an impact on special teams immediately. Well, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.400 I think Shepard took care of the skeptics with what 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.279 he did done in Mobile because he played against the 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.000 big times of will Hernandez. He went in the second round. Yeah, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.280 the big time Division one competition in Future Pro. It's 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.320 a great clip if you haven't looked if you haven't 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.600 looked it up, just look it up. It's phenomenal. And 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.800 then Cannon was an interesting pick because all of a 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.320 sudden that the Jets have a lot of debt that 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.880 running back because they added Isaiah Crow out in the 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.320 off season. The guy was productive with the Browns, the Angels, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.960 Blalpaul is still go on. He had, I believe again 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.000 his best pro season last year. And then um Eli 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.880 McGuire's in the mix as well. But yeah, Cannon will 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.000 be in the mix from the get. As far as 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.119 me and your top return man, well, I was gonna 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.640 say that the past couple of season the Jets really 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.880 have had a revolving door as at the returner position. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.120 I mean, if you go back two years ago, Jalen 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.680 Marshall made the team as an undrafted guy, but he 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.880 wasn't really a returner. He made it as a receiver 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.000 and they plugged him out there, and then after that 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.719 you had I mean, I don't know if you remember this, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.880 Nick Marshall, the former Auburn quarterback, was returning kicks that season, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.520 and then last year there was Lucky Whitehead, but he 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.800 broke his foot, and then you had our d Areas 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.160 Stewart back there a little bit, and then it ended 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.960 up being Joe Joe Nats in for the significant part 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.159 of the second half of the season, and the justice 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.839 recently waived. They forementioned Nets and and another guy would 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.919 be remiss if we didn't mention is of course Andre Roberts, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.720 the guy guy. Well, he was brought in this year. Yes, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.800 a lot of return experience. So I'm just saying is 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.320 that we can't give the job to can and just exactly. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.400 But the Jets and Lucky Whitehead is coming back to Yes, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.560 but the Jets do like his ability back there and 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.479 his potential as a return man. So all in all, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.040 you know, when you look at this draft class, the 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.720 Jets didn't have any second rounders, but you gotta give 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.719 him a magnet credit for a couple of things. Is 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.840 that he was aggressive by moving up and sending a 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.640 pair of second rounders this year. One of those was 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.640 acquired in the Germaine Curse for Sheldon Richardson swap before 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.040 the season opener last year, and the Jets get Sam 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.200 Donald without giving up a first round pick next year. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.320 They did give up a second round pick next year, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.600 but they do have their one in two thousand nineteen. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.240 It's funny how things work out sometimes, isn't it. But 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.440 without further ado, we gotta bring in Dame Bruegler to 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:37.000 break down the Jets draft class. Alrighty eight, let's bring 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.080 in NFL Draft scout dot COM's Dame Bruegler. Follow him 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.360 on Twitter at DP Bruegler Dane. Everybody that follows the 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.160 Jets knows about Sam Donald. We want to get your 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.600 take on him as well. But real quickly, let's dive 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.240 into the third round. Because you love Nathan Shepherd out 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.680 of ford Hey State. That's someone that you pegged as 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.560 a great value get from Mike mccagnell, Greens. This is 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.000 a power removed. He went right by Sam darl right 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:08.320 the Shepherd. I'm okay with that because Shepherd, Shepherd, I'm 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.520 really excited about. And I first I had a scout 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.640 tipped me off about him back in October about this 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.080 Division two kids just tearing it up, and so I 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.240 popped on the tape and I don't care where you 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.840 play him nose tackle, outside the offensive tackle, over the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.640 B gap and he's just dominating Division two competition. And 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.000 you know, you kind of said, okay, that's great, but 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.840 you know, he's twenty four years old. He's playing against 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.360 interior competition, no one that's gonna be playing at the 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.760 NFL level. But then he goes to the Senior Bowl 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.160 and he looks fantastic. Uh, if you're right from the 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.160 get go, he had a nice, nice week unfortunately, and 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.640 only last two practices because he broke his hand um, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.600 which was unfortunate. But in the two practices we did 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.640 see him one on ones. He was terrorizing will Hernandez. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.200 Uh the Giants new guard. He was terrorizing anybody they 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.640 put in front of him. So, Nathan Shepherd, I do 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.640 think there's gonna be a little bit of a learning 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.439 curve as he goes from uh, you know, Ford Hay 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.480 State to the NFL level. Um, this is not a 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.960 guy who was a big time recruit and you know, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.760 transferred a Division two and all that. You know, he 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.120 was a Canadian native. It was a two poud linebacker 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.400 in high school. Uh you know, kind of had to 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.160 you know, find his path to go to Ford Hay 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.440 State and developed there. So I'm eager to see what 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.480 what he developed into. Uh a little bit older in October, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.200 but I think there's a lot of ability there. Dan. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.040 He's a fascinating story. Is we know he started off 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:41.080 playing Division to college football in Vancouver, British Columbia, and 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.120 then he left football for a little bit, was working 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.160 at a plant nursery doing some construction. Then he started training, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.640 never lost the love for football, was doing a thousand 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.120 push ups a day, like my man Ethan Greenberg over 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:58.160 here and then. But when I asked Todd Bulls about 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.240 Nathan Shepherd, he kept on coming back to one thing. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.200 Heavy hands. What can you tell me about this guy's hands? 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.679 Is a grown man and he plays like he's got 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.959 over ten inch hands, but not only his hands, but 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.880 his speech. He's very nimble his lower body and so 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.160 that allows him to stay free with his upper body. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.520 And he's got those hammer hands where he's going to 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:25.240 make it tough for blockers to latch on control him. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.880 He's very aggressive. You see the finishing mentality. I mean, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.840 he's a beast and it really it's it's funny because 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.000 the best part about these prospects in doing and scouting 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.840 and evaluating for me is the journey that they have 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.719 to take. And you know, you laid it out on 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.920 his background. I went back to his his high school 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.760 career and he actually played the Beast and beauty the 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.920 Beast his senior year in high school. So this guy 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.679 has been a beast off the field and on the field. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.719 It's been fun to watch. What about Chris Herndon the 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.920 tight end from Miami. Do you think that was good 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.400 value there in the fourth round, and maybe when we 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.880 look back, it was blessing in disguise for the Jets 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:09.079 anyway that the guy suffers minor knee injury against Pittsburgh, 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.800 has to miss some offseason workouts, and he's still there 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.960 in the fourth round because what I see from him, Dane, 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:21.200 is that production wise ascending in terms of receptions each 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.880 and every year. He looks like more than a willing blocker. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.359 And also he is a guy who has some potential 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.760 making some yards down the field with the ball in 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.160 his hands. Yeah, no question. And you know you mentioned 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.880 the knee injury. He uh, it was an m cl 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.760 injury and it left me. He just hated to see 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.000 it because he was having such a good senior season, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.160 putting himself on the map um as being one of, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.120 uh maybe a top five tight end in this class 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.840 before the injury. Uh, so you hated to see it, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.280 But like you said, beyond blessing of disguise for the 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.760 Jets because they get him on day three and round four. Uh. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.480 When David and Joku for srouders the Browns last year 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.080 when he left, that really gave Herndon the chance to 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.880 step up this past year as a senior, and he did. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.280 He was a big part of that offense, bracting burials 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.360 as the top receiver. But Herndon he was he was 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.160 right there in terms of being an option on that offense. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.280 And so he said, a lot of bubble screens, a 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.280 lot of underneath routes, a lot of give him a 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.959 chance to catch and go, get the ball in his hand, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.320 let him create after the catch. My biggest worry with him, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.959 or my biggest thing I want him to improve, is 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.959 just I need to see a little bit more dog 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.760 in him. I need to see a little more aggression, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.160 and that's finishing as a ball carrier, and then as 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.360 a blocker he'll get a position, he'll lock up the defenders. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.760 I just want to see a little more toughness, a 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.160 little more mean to just be a better finisher. But 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.840 you like the athletic versatility. I mean he lined up 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.360 everywhere in that offense. He was a full back, played 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.600 in line, played in the slot. Can do a lot 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.240 of things. He's a fluid route runner. He moved very 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.400 well for a size. So I think there's a lot 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.960 to like about Herndon and being just an underneath receiver 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.480 who can be flexed all over the offense. I want 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.559 to jump around a little bit, not too far ahead. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.720 But in the sixth round, the Jets had three picks 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.839 and with their second pick they drafted a guy out 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.760 of Yukon with the name full runsu Fa to Kassi. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.720 And when the Jets truth be told when the Jets 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.439 drafted him, I said, I gotta look at Dane draft 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.160 Bible and lo and behold you had him as your 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.160 thirteenth ranked defensive lineman and the Jets got him in 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.360 the sixth round. What do you like about photo Kasi? 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.400 Yeah he should have been. If not, I gave a 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.600 third round grade. So I thought, okay, once we get 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.520 into the fourth round, this is good value. And here 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.240 the Jet skim has six round. There's so much to 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.880 like about him. And you watch Yukon, especially on defense, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.360 is not much to like except when you go up 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.400 front and you see number nineties three just demolishing blockers 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.240 in his path. Talking about heavy hands with napsan shepherd, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.720 that's what Photocosi has. Violence in his hands. He can stack, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.160 shed the point of his attack. He's more of that 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.800 nose tackle, that one technique who is gonna occupy blocks 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.240 and clog up interior run lane. But there were times 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.200 when they'd move them out to more of a three 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.920 technique position. Let him line up over the gap, and 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.040 you see some of that quickness where he can get 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.360 up the field and get into the pocket. And so 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:21.239 there's potocosty. I see position flexibility, nose tackle three technique. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.120 I think he could be a fine UH five technique 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.760 if you wanted to play him there. He's got long arms, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.720 he's a big kid, so there's a lot to like 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.440 about him. I don't know why he fell in the 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.760 sixth round. I thought that was one of the reasons 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.440 why the Jets in general g draft grades. But what 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.080 I do is I pick out my top five favorite 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.600 draft classes. I go through all three two teams and 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.440 pick out my five favorites, and Pardocosti was one of 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.240 the reasons I put the Jets the second best draft 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.440 class among all thirty two teams this year. What do 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.760 you make of from Perry Nickerson, the cornerback from two lane. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.880 He's a guy who said played mostly on the outside. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.480 A lot of folks are saying that potentially on the 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.960 pro level now he could make a transition inside. A 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.360 fast guy if you can keep them healthy. What kind 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:12.120 of ceiling is Nickerson have? Yeah, a little undersize two pounds, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.920 but he's a twitchy athlete. You see him able to 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.680 mirror routes up the line of scrimmage. You see him 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.000 able to carry receivers down the field. He's got makeup speed, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.680 so when he does lose the step, he's able to 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.840 make it up and recover. Uh. And he's a four 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.720 year starter. He loved the ball production forty six starts 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.280 in college, he had forty seven passes defended and sometimes 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.080 staffed in college production can be a little misleading. Something 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.320 that I've found over years and years of doing this 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.480 passes defended for defensive backs. That's usually the one stat 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.360 that I can point to that translates very well. If 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.200 you're able to get your hands on the ball as 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.960 a defensive back, that translates well at the next level. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.000 You're gonna be able to do that. In the NFL, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.640 he had ten interceptions the last two years, So the 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.480 productions off the charts. Again, he's just a little undersize, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.720 and that will show against bigger, more physical fevers. That 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.040 will show on run support. And so as long as 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.000 he's able to not allow that to be too much 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.080 of an issue in the NFL. He's going to be 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.400 a solid crow I think probably best in that nickel. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.000 He reminds me a lot of Brie and Body Calhoun 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.920 for the Browns, who's carved out a nice little career 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.320 for himself as a nickel corner up in Cleveland. And 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.600 then lastly here Trenton Cannon, the Jets final pick of 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.640 the two thousand eighteen NFL Draft class day. That's someone 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.920 that on Twitter you said that he was much faster 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.160 than his competition. And I know that you liked his 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.920 tape because you tweeted about it right after the Jets 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.800 selected him. I know that speaking with him, he said 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.120 that special teams coordinator brand Foyer really liked him and 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.280 in fact, he worked him out separately down in Virginia State. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.760 So what do you think about Cannon's projection on the 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.160 next level, not only as a running back but as 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.040 a returner as well. Yeah, he was just really productive 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.480 at Virginia State. He started at Shepherd Division two, when 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.120 went to Virginia State, finished his career. Uh, you love 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.840 the production average over seven yards of carry the last 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.159 two years. Was a factor as a receiver, out of 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.760 the backfield, and yeah, like I said, he just looks 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.000 like he's moving at a different speed than everybody else 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.600 on the fields, not only a short area burst, but 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.639 then the long speed. And he followed it up by 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.679 his pro day, ran a four four zero in the 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.040 forty yard dash, had a thirty and a half inch 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.000 vert So the testing numbers matches what you see on 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.199 the tape. Not the biggest guy, he's five pounds, but 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.119 he's that slashing ball carrier who has the versatility to 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.080 help you in the passing game and then the versatility 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.440 to help you on special team. The average over thirty 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.080 yards per return on kickoff. He had three return scores 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.399 over the last two years. So he's a guy that's 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.160 a little bit of a weapon whether you put him 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.080 on offense on special team. UM eager to see what 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.480 he can do. Again, not the biggest guy, but you 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.240 just get the ball in his hand, he can make 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.720 something happen. All right, this is the Official Jets Podcast. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.240 We're talking to Dane Brugler, who knows the draft better 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.679 than anybody in the United States, so probably the world. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:05.600 Uh Dane UM. Four quarterbacks taken in the top ten. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.719 Of course, Baker Mayfield goes one to Cleveland. Sam Donald 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.720 goes three here to the Jets. The Bills move up 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.240 and get Josh Allen out of Wyoming at number seven, 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.560 and then Arizona moves up takes Josh Rosen out of 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.439 U c L A number ten overall. Lamar Jackson was 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.320 the final quarterbacks selected in the first round, number thirty 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.960 two overall to the Baltimore Ravens. Putting you on the 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.960 spot here in eight to ten years, who of this 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:37.040 group is going to be above the rust? That's a 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.280 great question, and I think you could really make a 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.600 case for several of these of these quarterbacks. Uh. You know, 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.040 with Lamar Jackson, he's going to an opportunity where he's 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.000 gonna be sitting and learning, and you know they'll bring 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.000 him along at his own pace. But you could say 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.439 the same thing about the Dortal in New York. And 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.920 you know, I think there's something to be said about 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.000 having a veteran presence like Josh McCown where you know, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.800 in most of you Asians, Uh, you add a rookie, 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.239 highly drafted rookie to a quarterback room that has an 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.760 established veteran, that established veterans not helping the rookie because 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.199 and I don't blame him. You know, he wants to 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.760 win the job. He wants to you know, it's competition. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.680 So I mean it's not like he's you know, going 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.679 to you know, shun the player, but he's just not 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.840 going to go out of his way to help him. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.840 And I think we saw that that's the and that's 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.439 the way Tony Romo was with Dak Prescott. Uh. You know, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.600 it's just something that and I don't blame Tony Romo 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.880 at all. I he wants to compete for the job. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.959 He doesn't want to feel like he's grooming his replacement. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.960 But I don't think that's going to be an issue 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.680 with Josh McCown. I think he's you know, everyone knows 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.800 he's the ultimate pro, the ultimate veteran, and I think 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.919 he will have no issues helping Sam Donald's in the 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.760 quarterback room and practice and just you know, digesting the 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.840 playbook and having an understanding of what the offense expect 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.920 of him and so what it means to be a pro. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.679 So Sam Donald going to a great situation. Hopefully we 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.480 don't see him on the field right away, you know, 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.359 And I think he's going to obviously a situation where 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.720 that shouldn't be the case Teddy Bridgewater McCown. But you know, 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.159 we'll see how that quarterback situation works out. So I 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.000 think Sam Donald went into the draft as my top quarterback. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.760 I graded him as such. Um, so I would say, 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.160 Sam Donald, that's where I would leading if we're gonna 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.560 you know, project this out, uh for the future. I 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.880 think not only Donald going to a good situation, but 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.560 I think he's the best quarterback of this group. I 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.120 think Baker Mayfield, you know, he's right there. I didn't 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.119 think he was a reach at number one. I graded 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.760 him as a top ten player overall in this draft. 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.440 So very eager to see what he does in Cleveland. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.320 And then Rosen going to Arizona. I wouldn't shock me 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.600