1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's bring in Albert Breer and we'll eventually 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: get to the college football playoff for rankings because he's 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: a Buckeye and he knows it very well. Let's just 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: go Tomlin to start. What is the internal temperature in 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh on Tomlin? 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think that there's definitely a little tension 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: and knowing that a reset is coming, and that's natural 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: just based on the age of the players in the roster. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the guys they've built around 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: now and the guys that are the highest paid guys there. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: You're talking about Jalen Ramsey in his thirties, t J. 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: Watt in his thirties, Aaron Rodgers in his forties. Cam 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: Hayward has been there forever. And I actually didn't mind 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: the addition of Aaron Rodgers because it was sort of 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: the last shot for this core of players that's been 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: there for the last five, six, seven years. Like this 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 3: was right, This was just ahead of where you would 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: naturally reset. And when you do get to that point 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: when it is time to reset, that's when you start 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: to ask the big picture questions. That's when the Steelers 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: have to ask do we want Mike Tomlin leading the 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: rebuild here? It's when Mike Tomlin has to ask the question, 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: do I want to go through the sort of rebuild 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: that's going to take two or three years? Because I 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: think that that's probably what the Steelers are looking at now, 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: and I don't think Colin it's totally dissimilar from the 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: situation in Philadelphia a little over a decade ago where 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: they reached the end with Andy Reid and if you 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: remember the twenty eleven Dream Team season that didn't work out, 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: and then the whole thing came apart in twenty twelve, 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: and I think everybody in that building knew at the 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: time the last two months were like Andy Reid walking 40 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: the Green Mile. Everybody knew it was just time for 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: a divorce. And that didn't mean the e didn't think 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 3: they thought less of Andy Reid more than anything else. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: It was just this isn't working anymore. And obviously both 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: sides in that divorce have done pretty well for themselves 45 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: since the Eagles have been to three Super Bowls and 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: one two, and obviously Andy Reid's won three Super Bowls 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: and been to five. So I think it's that sort 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: of scenario in Pittsburgh right now. And you know, I 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: think that the state of the roster is what gives 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: you the natural. 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: Breakpoint that could come in the next year or two. 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Monday Night Football Chargers eight and four hosting the Eagles. 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Hypothetically Philadelphia loses, do they make a change at OSEA Listen, 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: three game losing streaks in Philadelphia is chaos in Carolina. 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 5: It's business as usual. 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: In Philadelphia, WYP Radio. I mean, they lose Monday and 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: it's a two point spread. I mean, it's a real game. 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Could something happen in on the staff? What happened? Something's 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not impossible, And you're right, like Philadelphia 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: is different. Like I would say, it's crazy to start 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: to talk about those things when we're what like ten 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: months separated from them winning a Super Bowl, But it 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: happened a couple of years ago there, right like they 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: were coming. 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: Off of a Super Bowl in twenty twenty two. 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: You go into twenty twenty three, you've got young coordinators 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: that you really thought you believed in Brian Johnson, Sean Deci. 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: One winds up getting fired in season, the other one 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: gets fired after the season. And in twenty twenty four 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: you've got two new coordinators in Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio. 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: Now you've lost more that isn't working out, And this 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: sort of feels like it could be the same scenario. 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: And again I think Kevin Patula is a really good coach, 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: but the temperature there is certainly high. We know the 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: egos that are in that room, Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown. 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's just a lot of mouths to feed there. 78 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: A team that's leveraged to win right now now, and 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: you know it's a high stakes game. The Eagles are 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: playing from year to year based on how they're structured 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: here again, how that roster is built, and so you know, 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: again normally I would say this is crazy, the idea 83 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: that you can move on from an offensive coordinator in 84 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: season this close to a Super Bowl Championship. But you know, 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: I just think based on what we saw two years ago, 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: it's not impossible. 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Listen, when the Cowboys treaded Micah, I said, I love 88 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: it for Green Bay, but I love it for Dallas, 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and it was very I always think it's easy for 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: to pick a winner and a loser in a trade. 91 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: But these gms, Jerry Jones a better GM than people 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: given credit for. Are you when you talk to people 93 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: around the league and you mentioned Jerry the GM? 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 5: Is there an acknowledgment? 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: You know, Pickens quinnin Kenny Klark to first rounder Mike 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: of trade? Is there an acknowledgment maybe Jerry kind of 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: Can I flip this around on you for a second 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 3: call and ask you a question? 100 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 6: All right? 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: Over the last twenty years, what was last time talent 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: was an issue on Dallas? 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 4: It really hasn't been, right, Yeah, not really. 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: I mean it was before Parcells got there, and Parcelles 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: was there from three to six. Parcells rebuilt that roster, 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: and I really, I mean I covered the. 107 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 6: Team day to day. 108 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna beat No. Seven and O. 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 7: Eight. 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: I don't remember. Talent doesn't mean they don't have holes. 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: But I don't ever remember talent being an issue, like 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: I think from a talent. 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Their guards, they're two young guards are star excellent. 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've effectively rebuilt the offensive line. Now 115 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: their offensive line outside of the right tackle Terrence Steele, 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: all four of the other offensive linemen are twenty four 117 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: and younger is Tyler Guidon, Tyler Smith, Tyler Booker, and 118 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: then and then and then Cooper. 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Bebe at center. 120 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I think you have to give 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: them credit for what they did here because they told 122 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: you when they traded Micah this story isn't over yet. 123 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: We are, we're retooling a little bit. And I think 124 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: what happened was and this goes back to August. I 125 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: think I said to this tea in August was when 126 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: the conversation about Micah being traded got real because they 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: were trying to re sign him. They started to take 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: a bigger picture of look at where they were organizationally, 129 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: and what signing Micah would have done would have been 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: to kind of say, okay, like we're going forward with 131 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: what we've already done that wasn't really working. 132 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: And so if it was. 133 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: DAK and CD and Micah making whatever the percentage of 134 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: the cap would be, fifty percent of the cap. Was 135 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: that going to work or do you start to reimagine 136 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: things and rethink things a little bit? And they brought 137 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: in George Pickens at that point, which that again was 138 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: something that required patients because they didn't draft a receiver 139 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: and they traded for Pickens after the draft, you know. 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: And then in this case, it was okay, like we've 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: got a new defensive coordinator here in Matt Eberflus. Where 142 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: did he have his greatest success. It was in Indianapolis 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: with dominant defensive tackles and that was to Forest Buckner 144 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: and Grover Stewart. And now you see in Dallas they 145 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: resigned Ocia Digezua. In the off season, they traded for 146 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: Kenny Clark, They trade for Ken and Williams, Quinn and Williams. 147 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: In that Raiders game, the first game they had Quinn, 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: they had eleven quarterback hits. 149 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: Nine of them were from the defensive tackle position. 150 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 8: Wow. 151 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: And so now you're seeing what was a weakness in 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: the team, which is the defense with Micah as part 153 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: of it, right, Like that was that looked like it 154 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: was going to be weakness going into the year. Now 155 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: that's becoming a Now that's becoming a strength. And the 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: offense looks unstoppable with CD and and UH, with CD 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: and and and and Pickens outside and on the offensive line, 158 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: which lost Zach Martin. By the way, they've got four 159 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: starters who are twenty four and younger. You know, I 160 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: certainly think you got to give them some credit for 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: the job that they've done. From a personnel standpoint, that 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: looks like a dangerous team going forward. And that's a 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 3: credit to Jerry Jones, to Steven Jones, and to Will. 164 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: McLay again a lot. It took a lot of drama 165 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 4: to get here. 166 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: But that's a really good team and they're playing really, 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: really well and. 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 4: Peaking at the right time. 169 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: Hey, the I mean the Chiefs. 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: If I had to win a game, I'd rather not 171 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: play the Texans, whose defense right now is just completely 172 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: lights out. But there is a chance they could run 173 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: the table. I don't think they will if they don't, 174 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Like I thought the last couple of years, I mean, 175 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I would always put it in Andy Reid's wallet. He 176 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: makes the decision, he'll pull out the I'm retiring card. 177 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, what do you do if you're Kansas 178 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: City with Mahomes and you don't make the playoffs, Harbaugh 179 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and Herbert are going to make the playoffs losing their 180 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: entire line and Marion Hampton Denver's got bow Nicks on 181 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: that rookie contract. You start looking around, It's like, well, 182 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: this isn't even the best of the division yet this 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: was a year you were gonna still make it. Could 184 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: you see Kansas City making a big swing on something? 185 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: I could, because like if you remember, like the last 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: time it really looked like something was in a massive 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: state of disrepair was after that Super Bowl loss to 188 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: team where Mahomes got knocked around and they completely like 189 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: blew up their offensive line and if you remember, I 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: think it was five new starters, right, So they brought 191 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: in Joe Toney from New England, They brought in Joan 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: Taylor from from Jacksonville. They Brian Donovan Smith, and they 193 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: drafted Creed Humphrey and Tray Smith. So like, they haven't 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: shown fear for blowing things up in the past and 195 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: trying to retool an area or multiple areas of their 196 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: team on the fly. You know, the Tyreek Hill trade 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: was very bold at the time. So I think if 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: you if you look at where they are, and the 199 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: one thing that sticks out to me, because I don't 200 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: think the defense has broken Colin, it does look like 201 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: things are hard for them on offense. It looks like 202 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: it's hard for them to churn out third downs that 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: were routine in the past. It just it looks like 204 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: there's more instances where Mahomes either has to run or 205 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: do something like Superman in the passing game for them 206 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 3: to to look like they have in the past. And 207 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: Patrick's certainly certainly capable of that. But yeah, I mean 208 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: like it's it's one of those things where as long 209 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: as you have Mahomes, it's incumbent on you to build 210 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: aggressively and be aggressive in the way you're putting your 211 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: operation together. And if things continue the way that they've 212 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: gone to this point, I certainly think you have to 213 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: look at a bunch of different things, especially on offense, 214 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: to try to turn the tie, because it does feel like, 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: for whatever it's worth, like the age of Kelsey and 216 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: then the state of the receiver position, like they just 217 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: look stuck in the mud a little bit. And maybe 218 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: that resolves itself, you know, because there's been a vision 219 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: here over the last couple of years, and the way 220 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: they've built, which is Worthy on one side, Hollywood Brown 221 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: on the other, taking the top off the defense, and 222 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: then Rice and Kelsey running in free space underneath for 223 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: one reason or another just hasn't come together the way 224 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: they've envisioned it. 225 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: And so you know, I certainly think if things. 226 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: Keep going the way that they have gone, that you 227 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: would take a look at in the off season and 228 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: say what do we need to be what do we 229 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: need to do different? 230 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Finally, you and I can complain about the college football playoff, 231 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: but it is signing day US he has the number 232 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: one class and I'm not sure if you noticed did 233 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: flip an Ohio State receiver. Let's not get in there. 234 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Ohio State is really, really good, 235 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Julian saying I was texting pro people this past weekend. 236 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Presence feet, accuracy, release, that kid is. He's a guidebook 237 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: on a young quarterback. But let me ask you, Michigan 238 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a threat. Is there a way to beat this 239 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: Ohio State State team? You've seen every snap. I think apathy. 240 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: I think this is the last game. I think this 241 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: game because of apathy. 242 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: Off Michigan and looking ahead. 243 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: That would worry me and the Georgia game if they 244 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: could give Julian saying some heat, some pressure. He's young, 245 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: he makes a mistake or two. When you look at 246 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, is there any way to beat them? Because 247 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Michigan it wasn't the team. 248 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: Well, I show you a picture from last year if 249 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: you remember, this might be the one year in a 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: versary of you's showing me this picture which was me 251 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: in the stands. 252 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 4: It's hard to see, it's hard to see. 253 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: We'll see if we can, but it was me in 254 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: the stands, and you guys put it up like one 255 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: of your Fox guys might have been Brady Quinn himself 256 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: took that picture of me looking miserable in the stands. 257 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: And Ryan Day is sixteen and oh since since you guys, 258 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, I do have some level. 259 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: Of trust in what's going on there in Columbus. 260 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: I would say this. 261 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: I think I think the thing that people are going 262 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: to focus on the skill players, right like people are 263 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: going to focus on Jeremiah and Carnellen rightfully. So like 264 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: Bo Jackson as a freshman running back, Max Clair at 265 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: tight end, like yeah, there's an embarrassment of weapons and 266 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: riches on the offensive side of the ball. 267 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: I think the defense is better than the offense. 268 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: And I. 269 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: And I think Matt Patricia can go to. 270 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: Ryan Day and legitimately say on a week two week basis, 271 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: no matter who they're playing, get me seventeen points and 272 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 3: we're fine. And as long as like there isn't a 273 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: touchdown scored on special teams or the other team's defense 274 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: doesn't score a touchdown, they can they can produce that 275 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: sort of result. The other thing is they're very fresh legged, 276 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: and that was last year too, where they took this 277 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: strategy of being the slowest playing offense in college football. 278 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: I think I read somewhere that they've played two games 279 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: worth fewer snaps than Texas Tech. Right, because of the 280 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: way that they operate, the way that they play, the 281 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: way that they plan for this and you saw what 282 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: fresh legs did for them in the playoffs last year. 283 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: It's allowed them to manage injuries the guys like Tate 284 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: and Jeremiah. I'm pretty confident going in the team that 285 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: scares me the most. Actually, this might surprise you, Oregon. 286 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: That's the team that I think when I watched them, 287 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: I just since they have this other gear that doesn't 288 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: always come out, but when it comes out, I think 289 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: Oregon's got a chance to be pretty scary. 290 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 6: Well. 291 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Also, also, they've been without their their injury situation at 292 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: receivers absurd. They've been winning games at Iowa. They've been 293 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: winning games on their fourth, fifth, and sixth receivers. So 294 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: if they get help, those are NFL guys. So that's 295 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: an interesting point. We haven't seen the best of Oregon. 296 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: Ohio State's the best every weekend. All right, buddy, it's 297 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: great seeing you. 298 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: All right, Thanks con Yeah, I like Ohio. 299 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: State to beat Indiana. I think it's a good game. 300 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: I want to see Mendoza against this defense. That's what 301 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: That's why I'm watching the game. Because it doesn't mean anything. 302 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: They're both gonna get into the tournament, you know. I 303 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I Ohio State's got more Sunday players. 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 6: I'll take them. 305 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 306 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: and neon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 307 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 308 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 9: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 309 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 9: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 10: And in addition to hearing US live week nights from 311 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 10: seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio. 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The draw is Friday. 320 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Alexi Lawless gonna be joining us in about twenty minutes. 321 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: First though, Jmack with the news. 322 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 6: No, no turn on the news. 323 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 324 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 7: It's very very excited for the draw. Let's go to 325 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 7: the NFL. Here, the Dallas Cowboys are a threat. 326 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Colin. 327 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 7: It's official, and I'm gonna make the prediction right now. 328 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 7: If they beat the Lions, they're gonna run the table 329 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 7: and make the playoffs. 330 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 12: The Lions game is a huge swing game. 331 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 7: Remember they started three to five and one, they're now 332 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 7: six five and one. 333 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 12: Dak says they got to continue to stack. 334 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 11: W's It's about us really just controlling what we control, 335 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 11: winning the games in front of us and right now. 336 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 11: I don't think we're in a position where we truly 337 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 11: got to know count wins and losses from other teams. 338 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 11: I think we just win and handle our business, will 339 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 11: put ourselves in a great book. 340 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 12: Here we go Lions, followed by the Vikings. They will 341 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 12: be favored. 342 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 7: Chargers could be a dicey game. We'll see Commanders. They 343 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: will be favored. I don't even care if Jaden Dams 344 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 7: is back. And then the Giants, who are not a 345 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 7: good football team. Now three of those are on the road, 346 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 7: two of them outdoors. It's possible that Washington and the 347 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: Giants and weather's crappy and they can't throw the ball. 348 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 12: But Colin, this smells like a five and O to me, 349 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 12: doesn't it. 350 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: No, I keep your eye the Chargers are getting Chargers 351 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: defense is great. Now, they've got a run game that's working. 352 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I keep your eye on that. But I do think 353 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I think three of those feel like W's Detroit. 354 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: They're a dog. 355 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: I like him against Detroit, but I think Detroit and 356 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers keep your eye on. I mean, Detroit is 357 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: getting due a point. Detroit's desperate, and by the way, 358 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: we're surprised Dallas. Is this good people are picking Detroit 359 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: to make the super Bowl. So I think there's a not. 360 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 12: Here, not on this show. 361 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: No, we didn't, but that's for the record, one of 362 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: the best games ever on Thursday. 363 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: That is a great Thursday. 364 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 7: Game and indoors, so no inclement weather. It should be 365 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 7: should be a banger. 366 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 367 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 12: I'm on the Cowboys there. All right, let's move on 368 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 12: to the next story. And that is a bit of 369 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 12: a surprise. 370 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 7: The Cleveland Browns announced today that DeShawn Watson was designated 371 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 7: to return to practice. 372 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 12: He has twenty one. 373 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 7: Days to prove he's healthy enough to be activated. 374 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 12: If he passes, he can join him at any point. 375 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 7: If not, he'll be placed on season ending I are 376 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 7: in the meantime, Schdur Sanders will get the start. Dylan 377 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 7: Gabrielle the backup. Here's Shador talking about how he can 378 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 7: improve his game. 379 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 9: Sometimes I look for the big play, you know, And 380 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 9: I do that when I feel like I'm pressing, like 381 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 9: I feel like we don't have no when I feel 382 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 9: like we need to get a spark, when you get 383 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 9: an energy, that's you know, typically what when I do that, 384 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 9: whenever we stagnant, you know, so has something I review 385 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 9: with myself and I know I in those situations, I can't. 386 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: I can't do that. 387 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 9: You know, at certain times. 388 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 7: That's exactly what the defensive coordinators want. 389 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 12: We don't think you're patient enough. 390 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 7: That's right to matriculate down the field, go for the 391 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 7: big play, go for it, you know, chuck it into 392 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 7: too deep. And I don't know if you saw the 393 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 7: clip that Jerry Judy was kind of getting on his 394 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 7: case on the sideline. Jerry Judy and Chador, I don't 395 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 7: want to say they had words, but Jerry's like, I 396 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 7: was open, You've got to make that throw. And again 397 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 7: it plagued Chador a little bit. But holding the ball, 398 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 7: he's getting time to throw. He's just afraid to make mistakes. 399 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 7: This is obviously stuff. 400 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 12: For a young quarterback. I don't know, you know, Deshaun. 401 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: I like Cleveland this weekend. I don't like betting on 402 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: bad teams. I like Cleveland this weekend. 403 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 12: They're at home against the Tennessee Titans. Marl Miles Garrett 404 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 12: may have eight sacks. I don't know. 405 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 7: But this to Shan Watson things interesting. I thought the 406 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 7: franchise was done with him, but we'll see finals. R 407 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 7: con let's go to your guy. 408 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 12: This is your guy, Aaron Rodgers. 409 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 7: You know he's prickly after the Bills lost, saying that 410 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 7: some of the receivers it did not attend film sessions. Well, 411 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin was asked about the team swoon and said, 412 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 7: I'm willing to do whatever we need to do to 413 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 7: improve the team. It feels like things are falling apart here. 414 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 7: Usually Raven Steelers, you just automatically put the spread at three. 415 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 7: Look at that number six. I mean Pittsburgh cannot stop 416 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: the run against Buffalo. 417 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I like Pittsburgh is a really Jillie. Oh, 418 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous number for that. Baltimore's offense is stuck. 419 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm six points in this rivalry. 420 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 12: You know how to get unstuck. Right, face the Steelers. 421 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 7: They gave up two hundred and forty nine yards to 422 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 7: the Bills on the ground. Now you face Lamar and 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 7: Derrick Henry and oh, by the way, this is fun. 424 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: So Lamar's been skipping the Wednesday practice a lot lately. 425 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 7: It's Wednesday. He's at practice today taking snaps. This is 426 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: a big one for the Ravens. They clearly were not 427 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 7: locked in against. 428 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: The Ba taking the Ravens minus six and the Packers 429 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: minus six and a half. 430 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 7: I haven't taken the Ravens yet, but it's Ravens are passed. 431 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 12: I ain't touching the Steelers. 432 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: They're cooked, buddy. 433 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 12: It's over. 434 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens put up fourteen points against 435 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense. 436 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 7: Now listen, Isaiah likely fumbles at the goal line. Lamar 437 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 7: hands them a touchdown drop dropping the ball his three litlwonky. 438 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: Okay. 439 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: J Mack with the news. 440 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 441 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 442 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: This is the most excited I've ever been for a 443 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: World Cup by far. I mean, it's gonna be here Canada, 444 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: some matches in Mexico. It's June. It's around the corner. 445 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: Alexi Lawless to draw his Friday controversy with our United 446 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: States men's national team. 447 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: He's next. 448 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 449 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern not a em Pacific. 450 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, the World Cup draws Friday, you can watch 451 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: it on Fox's going to be at the US, Canada, Mexico. 452 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: Sofi Jerry World MetLife. It's different when that's on our 453 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: soil totally different. Well, he's a Soccer Hall of Famer, 454 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: National Soccer Hall of Famer, made two World Cup appearances. 455 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: He's our friend, Alexi lalas Fox Sports. 456 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: He is joining us June eleven. 457 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with this, the state of the 458 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: United States men's national team. What is the state of 459 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: the team Alexi today? 460 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 8: I think we could accurately and fairly describe it as 461 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 8: in flux, in that all of the positives relative. 462 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: To a home World Cup are there. 463 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 8: The magic that seems to appear, the brigadoonish type of 464 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 8: environment that a home World Cup is I think gives 465 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 8: us cause for being bullish. However, there certainly have been some, 466 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 8: you know, some problems and some pickups along the way. 467 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 8: New coach Mauricio Pochettino, I think, is in a better 468 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 8: place than he was even a few months ago. But 469 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 8: you know, there is this there's this opportunity that's barreling 470 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 8: down the tracks at us, both on and off the field, 471 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 8: by the way, and you do hope that this team 472 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 8: gets it together, but I think it's going to be 473 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: in a very different way, and I think there's going 474 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 8: to be some surprises both in the personnel and ultimately 475 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 8: in the results next summer from a US perspective, but 476 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 8: I still remain heavily excited and cautiously optimistic. 477 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: What concerns you most about the personnel? Because I think 478 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: we both agree this is an aggressive, talented foot on ball. 479 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: We are good in space, we're athletic. I think we 480 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: believe we can go toe to toe with most teams, 481 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: and we don't have to play defensive soccer. We can 482 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: be aggressive. I didn't always feel that way. But what 483 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: worries you about personnel? What are we lacking? 484 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: Let's start with the goalkeeper. 485 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 8: We have Matt Freeze, who I think is a good goalkeeper, 486 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 8: potentially could be a great goalkeeper, but I have yet 487 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 8: to see him make the saves that he shouldn't make. 488 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 8: Goalkeepers need to make the saves obviously that they need 489 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 8: to make and they should make. But the great goalkeepers, 490 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 8: and let's be honest, from a US men's perspective, we 491 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 8: actually have produced some really really elite goalkeeping over the years, 492 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 8: so that's one of my concerns. Doesn't mean he can't 493 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 8: step it up, and I think he is the number 494 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 8: one goalkeeper right now, so I think he is going 495 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 8: to be your starter, by. 496 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 6: The way, and I haven't looked this up. 497 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 8: Potentially if he starts for the World the US team 498 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 8: in the World Cup, the first harvard Man to play 499 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 8: in a World Cup, so that's going to be interesting. 500 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: So that's in the back. 501 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 8: Scoring is over the last couple of cycles has been 502 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 8: a concern flow Alligan right now I think is the incumbent, 503 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 8: but a consistent scorer has yet to crop up, and 504 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 8: certainly a world class striker relative to the people that 505 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 8: we always talk about has not cropped up yet. 506 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: Now polisk is top three, I believe scoring right now 507 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: over season his league, so I think were as good 508 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: as politics. 509 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 6: Health. 510 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: I think if he's healthy, and there's just certain players 511 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: in my life landon Donovan Dempsey, polistic I feel like 512 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: they're a bit of the soul, the fabric, and so 513 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: I feel like, if he's healthy, were good. What is 514 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: his current relationship with this new coach because it was 515 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: a little froth it was a little frosty two months ago. 516 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's good. I think it's positive. 517 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 8: I also think but you know, it's it's a definite 518 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 8: change and the dynamic has changed. Actually actually just flew 519 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 8: down from new York and coach Pochettino was on my flight. 520 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 8: You know, all that is to say is that I 521 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 8: think Pochettino has come in and recognized that while it 522 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 8: worked before with Greg Burhalter, keep in mind that he 523 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 8: was a coach of a lot of young players, some teenagers, 524 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 8: and whether it's Christian Polistic or anybody else, they are 525 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 8: very very different men now than they were even a 526 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 8: few years ago, and almost you needed somebody different to 527 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 8: come in with a different type of message and a 528 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 8: ruthlessness in the way that he has approached the coaching perspective. 529 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 8: Christian Polisic I still think is heading towards being the 530 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 8: best male American soccer player in history. You could certainly 531 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 8: argue he's the best player in city all right now. 532 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 8: And to your point, you guys talk about stars all 533 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 8: the time, you know, as goes Christian Polisic, I do 534 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 8: think goes this team because he can do things that 535 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 8: others can't. But he's never going to be the leader 536 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 8: that people expect or want him to be. He is 537 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 8: a reluctant star, but that's fine. He can do all 538 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 8: of his talking with what he does on the field. 539 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 8: Because to your point, there's not a lot of people 540 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 8: that do that on a consistent basis like he does. 541 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: Maurizio Barcentino came over, he had had some success with 542 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the younger teams. I think it's unfair. I think the 543 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: way our soccer works in this country, the national team, 544 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: it's harder to galvanize. The downside are quality of player is. 545 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: They're all playing overseas and you were a rare guy 546 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: to go over to an Italian league. 547 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 6: You you were. 548 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're the first guy ever to 549 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: go play in that league in Italy. 550 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 5: You were the first. 551 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, now we got guys not only going overseas, they're 552 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: high end players making a lot of money. I think 553 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: it's much harder to galvanize our national team. 554 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: Where are you with Mauricio. 555 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: He feels a little bit like a hardliner, and our 556 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: young guys aren't quite used to it. But I do, 557 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: I do see his messaging. I do feel he's on 558 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: the right it's the right. 559 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 8: Path, do you Yeah, I mean, suck it up, Buttercup. Yeah, 560 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 8: there's a new sheriff in town and he doesn't take 561 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 8: any of you know what. I think that's a good 562 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 8: thing for this team. I'm so glad that you brought 563 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 8: up the relationship and the dynamic between American players and 564 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 8: the national team. And this isn't me grumpy old manning 565 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 8: the situation. It's just the reality of the situation is. 566 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 8: Back in my day when I was running around with 567 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 8: Kobe Jones were running around, we needed the national team. 568 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 8: We needed the national team to establish I guess what 569 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 8: the kids would now call a brand. We also needed 570 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 8: it to give it give us opportunities from a club perspective, 571 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 8: and that's not the case anymore. That's a good thing 572 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 8: that our players are playing. But what I think, Mauricia 573 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 8: but Chattino as identified is that you need to recognize 574 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 8: that even though you don't need the national team, you 575 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 8: need to want to be on the national team for 576 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 8: more than money, for more than fame, for the pride 577 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 8: and the honor that comes with representing what I feel 578 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 8: is the greatest country in the world. 579 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 6: And I do think that he is instilled. 580 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 8: That, and he has lamented that maybe that generation, to 581 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 8: your point, doesn't look at the national team as a 582 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 8: must have. 583 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, what when the draw happens Friday? Best case scenario. 584 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Let's start with best case scenario. What to you would 585 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: be Oh, that's where they should play, and that's who 586 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: they should play. What would be the best case scenario 587 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: in a draw? 588 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 8: I mean, so you can go through teams and say, 589 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 8: for example, all right, you got to have a you 590 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 8: have to have a European team, so you know, you know, 591 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 8: maybe you got in Austria and a South Africa and 592 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 8: a New Zealand or something like that. 593 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 6: But that's that's all on paper. I will say this. 594 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 8: You know, you could get a group like let's say Columbia, 595 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 8: Norway and Ghana, okay, And I think a lot of 596 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 8: people would look at that as, oh, my goodness, this 597 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 8: is a big problem. What we have found historically is 598 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 8: the US men's team they play up to the opponent. Now, look, 599 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 8: I want as easy a path as anybody, but I 600 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 8: also don't want to get complacent if and when we 601 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 8: get a good group. 602 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 6: But I think we're gonna get a good group. 603 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 8: So there's almost a part of me that wants it 604 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 8: to be not really really hard, but not completely easy, 605 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 8: because I worry about them being and taking their foot 606 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 8: off the pedal. 607 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Hey listen, in twenty twenty two, we were the second 608 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: youngest team we got to draw with England. We were 609 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: outclassed by the Netherlands, but we got to draw with England. 610 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: I was overjoyed we got out of the group stage. 611 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: What is a realistic so polistics, there are young players, 612 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Weston McKinney are healthy. What is a realistic World Cup? 613 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Through the eyes the prism of an American? 614 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 8: All right, Look, if we don't get out of the group, 615 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 8: it's an abject fi I mean, it is a national 616 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 8: disaster and an embarrassment if you don't get out of 617 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 8: the group. Because by the way, top two teams as 618 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 8: normal come out of the groups of. 619 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 6: Four, but also best third place teams. So we we 620 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 6: should absolutely get out of the group. 621 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 8: Not only that, I think we no matter who those 622 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 8: balls are that come out on Friday in the draw, 623 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 8: I think that we should go in expecting to be 624 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 8: number one and win win our group. Now, what does 625 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 8: a successful World Cup and not just a World Cup, 626 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 8: a home World Cup look like? 627 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 6: You know, I've told you before. 628 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 8: It's kind of like you know, the Supreme Court trying to, 629 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 8: you know, to define obscenity. 630 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 6: Right, I don't. 631 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 8: I can't tell you what it is, but I know 632 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 8: what when I see it, right, we will know it 633 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 8: when we see it on the field, because it'll it'll 634 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 8: it'll make you feel. 635 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: Good about yourself. 636 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 8: It'll make you feel good about your country and the 637 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 8: way that they are playing. That goes beyond the actual scores. 638 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 8: And yes, winning is important, don't get me wrong. But 639 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 8: you know, if you lose because of a fluke call 640 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 8: or a penalty here, and you played, you played really 641 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 8: really well against a team that a lot of people 642 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 8: maybe feel as older. We absolutely should get past the 643 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 8: round of thirty two and back to the round of sixteen, 644 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 8: and that's usually where we faulter, where we're coming up 645 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 8: against a team that's better. 646 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 6: Than us, and that's where the magic has to happen. 647 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 8: That's where Marisio Pochettino, who's being paid six billion dollars, 648 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 8: that's where he earns his money to do things that 649 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 8: we haven't done before. 650 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Finally, we haven't had a repeat World Cup champ since 651 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: it was Brazil late fifties, sixty two, fifty eight sixty two. 652 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Messi and Argentina your thoughts and can they repeat? 653 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 6: I think they can repeat. 654 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 8: And it's interesting that Messi continues to play at the 655 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 8: top of his game. By the way, MLS Cup this 656 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 8: weekend with Inter Miami and Vancouver, and Messi is the 657 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 8: MVP and looking to get his. 658 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 6: First MLS Cup. 659 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 8: But it's really going to be interesting next summer as 660 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 8: Messi and his Argentina team defend their championship their World Cup. Oh, 661 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 8: by the way, in his new home and backyard and 662 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 8: neighborhood of the United States, I think people. 663 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 6: Are gunning for him. Lake. 664 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 8: You mentioned it's very, very difficult to maintain multiple cycles 665 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 8: and win World Cups. Keep in mind that since the 666 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 8: dawn of the World Cup, only eight countries have ever 667 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 8: won the World Cup. So it's difficult in and of itself, 668 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 8: let alone, to repeat. And there will be people that 669 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 8: are licking their chops out, the least of which is 670 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 8: teams like teams like Spain, keeps like France, and even 671 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 8: though it pains me to say it, a team like England. 672 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: By the way, that looks like a junior suite. Did 673 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Fox take care of you in that room? 674 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 6: It's okay. 675 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 8: I mean I got myself a coffee maker here, and 676 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 8: you know I made the bed up. You know, everybody 677 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 8: does these things from hotel rooms, and you know, you 678 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 8: got to be careful what you have hanging around back here. 679 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: But it's very very nice. It's clean, and it's gonna 680 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 6: be fun. 681 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: Good feeling you, my friend. 682 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: Great to see you. 683 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 8: You look great all right, and I love the fact 684 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 8: that you're so excited. I hope everybody tunes in this 685 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 8: Friday eleven thirty a eleven thirty am Eastern Time on 686 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 8: Fox three and a half hours of draw. And it's 687 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 8: not just the picking of the balls and selecting of 688 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 8: the teams. There's something for everybody. Even the village people 689 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 8: are going to play. So come on in, there you go, 690 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 8: There you go. Takes a village people. Alexi Lawless is 691 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 8: always your money, you know. I kind of feel like, 692 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 8: thank you, Alexi. I feel like it's a transition. Is 693 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 8: that for the first time in my life, we have 694 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 8: a high number of players that play overseas. And it 695 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 8: used to be like the World Cup defined US. Well, 696 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 8: now players are you know. It's like you look at 697 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 8: international basketball players. They can have success, but they're defined 698 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 8: by how they do in the States, like that's where 699 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 8: they make their money. Right, So in an internationals Luca 700 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 8: can be a big deal in Europe, but it's defined 701 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 8: by does he go to the best place in the world. 702 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 8: Of basketball and crush and the best place in the 703 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 8: world for soccer. It's over in Europe, and so our guys, 704 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 8: you know, it's an other They don't want to perform 705 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 8: for the United States men's national team. But we've gotten 706 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 8: so good that, you know, we have players, top players 707 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 8: going over there and they're leading scores and they're first 708 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 8: or second best player on squads. 709 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: So it's a transition. 710 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Period for US. I think this is going to be 711 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: a fascinating World Cup. Canada, Mexico and here in the 712 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: States cannot wait, absolutely cannot wait. 713 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 5: We'll see you tomorrow. First things, first night,