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Speaker 2: Paul inn by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Problem solved middle.

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Speaker 2: The endzone pickoff.

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Speaker 1: Hi's here White with the interception, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty right there.

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Speaker 2: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know what they say, and by day I mean

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Speaker 2: the suits, the bosses who America reports to in the workplace.

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Speaker 2: You know what they say about artificial intelligence, that AI

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Speaker 2: won't replace workers, but it will help boost productivity. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure I totally believe that. But in case you're

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Speaker 2: coming off a long three maybe four day weekend, if

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Speaker 2: we need to bring in AI to boost the performance

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Speaker 2: of Darren Urban. Danny Sirek. We reserve the Right Polly

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Speaker 2: podcast here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific

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Speaker 2: Office Automation. How productive do you feel right now, Danny?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have me sitting next to someone that I

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Speaker 3: have to listen to, so I guess very productive. Paul,

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Speaker 3: ask me off air someone.

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Speaker 2: Who might be involved in your employee review. Is that

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Speaker 2: what you're saying? Okay, didn't really encounter that.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how Paul left himself out

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Speaker 4: of the need for being more productive. It was just

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Speaker 4: me or Danny, whether we needed AI or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's sort of like a debate. The

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Speaker 2: I'm exempt from actual performance review, and you're just so

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Speaker 2: That's what I do around here. Okay, So here we are. James, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, we might get into that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: My only question about Bronnie James is if the Suns

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Speaker 2: for the G League Sons. I'm just still a little

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Speaker 2: unclear on that. Whole thing. What I'm what, I'm not

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Speaker 2: unclear about to use a double negative right off the top.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll edit that out later. Would be the difference

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Speaker 2: situational football in May. Kyle Vannenbosch brought this up on

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Speaker 3: but again, every day, you guys Yeah, well, that's.

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Speaker 4: A fair point. I walked right into that.

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Speaker 4: say two. Now, I know they're just preseason, but that's

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Speaker 2: The NFLPA A letter two words joint practice. You see

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Speaker 4: They're an AFC team, so they would be playing two

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Speaker 2: Interesting in fact, there was the Aaron Rodgers comment he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, be careful where you're going there Without Paul, there

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Speaker 3: You're saying what the quote is?

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Speaker 4: See, I think there's more more. Well, but again, if

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Speaker 2: Those are guys like Kyler who at times in their

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Speaker 2: So if Kyler can get back to that. And by

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Speaker 3: I did find that interesting. Of that was just kind

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Speaker 3: it's very clear that they have different leaders and that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the same dude factor. James Connor is

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Speaker 2: well you want to have a James Connor walking in

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Speaker 2: So that's how he ends up being an unquestioned team captain.

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Speaker 2: That's why Jonathan Gannon has told us more than once

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Speaker 2: it's sort of been an evolution and as some of

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Speaker 2: Brad Johnson, thank you so. But more importantly, I think

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Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me to hear that, because that's what

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Speaker 4: fall into this trap because he's not old by any

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Speaker 4: stretch of the imagination, and he's never going to be

436
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Speaker 4: old in my eyes, obviously, even if he plays fifteen years,

437
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: to be honest, but this is his sixth season. It's

438
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Speaker 4: not like he just got to the league. And I

439
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 4: understand he's had some changes and he had to go

440
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Speaker 4: through an injury, but my goodness, I would hope that

441
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Speaker 4: you've made a lot of these strides after five seasons

442
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Speaker 4: playing in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Well, And that's sort of my point. If he's mastered

444
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Speaker 2: this system, which we all agree was radically different than

445
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: any system he had ever run in his career, plus

446
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: the NFL experience in general. Okay, what does that mean

447
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: here in you too? Year two? Like there are certain

448
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: players who have been identified as taking that jump in

449
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: year two. Could Kyler in year two of this offense

450
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Speaker 2: be one of those players? Everything that we've seen at

451
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Speaker 2: times once again the first half of twenty twenty one,

452
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: when he's a legitimate MVP candidate, you can't tell me

453
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Speaker 2: that Kyler doesn't see some of these prop be MVP

454
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: rankings right in the top quarterback rankings and Kyle.

455
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Speaker 4: Was just looking at the betting nods. Is that what?

456
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Speaker 2: Well, just on social media, I mean they're everywhere, just

457
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: these these graphics. I mean, we have a top ten

458
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: quarterback MVP odds in Anthony Richardson is eighth. He's had

459
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Speaker 2: less than five games in the NFL. Really, so, if

460
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Speaker 2: Kyler is that competitive, and he is, and he's that

461
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: aware of everything around him, and he is Antony, that

462
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: isn't a little extra motivation, that's all. And by the way,

463
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Speaker 2: speaking of a big time jumps Dennis gard deck quote,

464
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Speaker 2: it's been an explosive kind of jump talking about Bjo

465
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Speaker 2: Jelai and we've not been talking about bj Ojelrii for

466
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks now, and just the rave reviews

467
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: he's getting out on that fields. Okay, what's coming? Dare

468
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: we say it's exactly what the Cardinals need, maybe exactly

469
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Speaker 2: why they didn't go out and try and pursue a

470
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Speaker 2: trade or a free agent. Not that there's a ton

471
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Speaker 2: available that's affordable when it comes to an edge rusher,

472
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Speaker 2: but they held their hand with Xaving Collins Bjo Dennis

473
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Speaker 2: Gardak drafted Xavier Thomas, who also my missing in that

474
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Speaker 2: mix and you know what. Okay, let's go because based

475
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Speaker 2: on loof, they know better than anyone that perhaps they

476
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Speaker 2: have legitimate reason to have much greater expectations of Bjo

477
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Speaker 2: Galari in youar two.

478
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Speaker 3: I think when you're looking at that room as a whole,

479
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit of both. For what you were saying,

480
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 3: we saw flashes. We saw sparks from this group last year,

481
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 3: which does have a lot of carryover, might be the

482
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Speaker 3: group that has the most carryover when you look at it,

483
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Speaker 3: at least on the defense, So you saw sparks. I

484
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Speaker 3: also think what you were saying was true was when

485
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Speaker 3: you're looking at free agents available and does that fit

486
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Speaker 3: with the money you have and the money you want

487
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Speaker 3: to spend. I do think it made more sense to

488
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Speaker 3: address the defensive line and the secondary the way that

489
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals did. Again, because you saw some sparks from

490
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Speaker 3: this group. That's not to say that I don't think

491
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Speaker 3: the spotlight is on them this year, because I do.

492
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Speaker 3: I think this is a very big years. Even Collins

493
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Speaker 3: didn't have his fifth year option picked up, this is

494
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Speaker 3: a big year for that room because I do think

495
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Speaker 3: that where things stand right now, this has got to

496
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Speaker 3: be priority number one to address in the offseason if

497
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Speaker 3: there is not a jump, not just looking at SAC numbers,

498
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Speaker 3: but just disruption from that group this year. Now, there

499
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Speaker 3: are always expectations, especially for a high draft pick like

500
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Speaker 3: Bijo Jalari going int year two. Guardik did talk about

501
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Speaker 3: that the growth he has seen from Ojelari, and that's

502
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Speaker 3: more of the mental side. You know, that first rookie year,

503
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Speaker 3: you don't have a break because you're playing in college,

504
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Speaker 3: and then you're prepping for the draft, and then you've

505
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: got rookie Minni caamp OTA's training camp. It's non stop. Now,

506
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 3: having that full offseason for the first time allows players

507
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Speaker 3: to really grasp what needs to be done by them

508
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: where they need to improve all of those matters. It

509
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Speaker 3: was interesting here a Guardik talk about the differences with

510
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Speaker 3: Xavi and Collins because Collins and Ojelari are both really

511
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Speaker 3: in year two at this position here with the Cardinals,

512
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Speaker 3: just Collins has been in the league longer and hearing

513
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Speaker 3: how from Gardeck's perspective, the growth for Collins going into

514
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Speaker 3: year two is more about I think the quote was

515
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Speaker 3: like letting your hair down, let your hair fly, right,

516
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Speaker 3: Just think last witches you would know right, he's got

517
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Speaker 3: a nice head of hair on him. Just and that's

518
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Speaker 3: what we've heard from from previous coaching staffs and from

519
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 3: this coaching staff is Navin Collins is just he's almost

520
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: too smart.

521
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Speaker 2: Didn't we hear that last week? What was our saying?

522
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Speaker 2: Think less, savage more? Did we not say that last week?

523
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Speaker 4: I thought we were talking about you, Paul.

524
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Speaker 3: So I do think that you can get sparks. I

525
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: think beefing up the D line through free agency in

526
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: the draft, well we'll have a trickle down effect as well.

527
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Speaker 3: I do still think there's a spotlight on the scroup,

528
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Speaker 3: which I said last week as well.

529
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Speaker 2: You know, we need you know what bj o Jeli needs.

530
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: He needs a nickname. I think we need to know

531
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Speaker 2: what is I think we need to get ahead of

532
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: the game on this. We need a nickname.

533
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Speaker 4: All saying we need to get ahead of the nickname

534
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: game just faded.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm nervous because this means Paul already has a nickname

536
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Speaker 3: in mind and we did not screen this.

537
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Speaker 2: Something needs to revolve around the number change, right, number nine?

538
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: What can we do with number nine?

539
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Speaker 1: You know?

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know cloud nine, you know the whole nine yards.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't know nine Ball. I know, maybe he gets

542
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Speaker 2: a sack and you know, past yells out rack them

543
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Speaker 2: something like that. I don't know. I mean we need

544
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Speaker 2: to do something with nine.

545
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Speaker 4: I feel like we need to work this off air though.

546
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, edit that out. That's that's bad, that's just you know.

547
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: I mean I I always appreciate it because I know

548
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: you're the nickname guy.

549
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: I try I'm the tryhard nickname guy. I can't say

550
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: many are successful. It's not funny. It's not funny. It's

551
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: you're taking the Isaiah. I will say this though, no

552
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: matter how bad my track record stands in terms of nicknames,

553
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: it still pales in comparison to how horrid Ron Wolfley's

554
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: track record with nicknames is. So there's always wolf who's bringing.

555
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Speaker 4: Up the room. I'm just gonna stay for the record.

556
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: I always enjoyed the Japanese Fighting Fish. Yes I did.

557
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Speaker 2: No, that's revisionist history, absolutely not.

558
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Speaker 4: It doesn't like it, but.

559
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Speaker 2: It's the only thing. It's a more than that is blocking. So,

560
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: by the way, uh, let's flip that. Dennis Gardek, what

561
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: does he love the new kickoff rule? Do you see

562
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: how the zeal And zest and how ernesty was in

563
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: his answer when someone asked him on the new kickoff rule.

564
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: The guy you know who's the special teams player extraordinaire,

565
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: and he said, I love it. He said, I'm excited

566
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Speaker 2: about it. He said there's there's a lot of uncertainty

567
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: about it, which he loves.

568
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Speaker 4: Well, it gets to do something on kickoffs again, right

569
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Speaker 4: was this coming.

570
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Speaker 2: I don't want to run all the way down the

571
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Speaker 2: field just for a touchback.

572
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Speaker 3: And it'll be fun when we get a real taste

573
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Speaker 3: of it at preseason because right now, I mean, they're

574
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Speaker 3: they're not really even having contact with each other, like

575
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Speaker 3: so it's it's really just like going through the basic motions.

576
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Speaker 3: It was at tuesday's practice. We were out there. It

577
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: was kind of weird. I was standing next to Zak Gershman,

578
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's kind of weird seeing two

579
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: returners and having to listen and like yell at each other,

580
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: and it's you, it's me and working on the like that.

581
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: It just it looks funky stuff.

582
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Speaker 4: But the cool part for me, you say about what

583
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: it's going to look like in preseason. Obviously in training camp,

584
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: you it won't be completely normal. But I would talk

585
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: to Jeff Rogers, the special teams coordinator, earlier in the

586
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: off season first story that I did about this, and

587
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: he said that one of the issues you always had

588
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: practicing kickoffs and kickoff return in training camp is it

589
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: takes so long the ball. It takes so long for

590
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: the ball to get down there, and everybody runs where

591
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: everybody is. Now it's a quicker process. So he said,

592
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Speaker 4: there's a high likelihood that they'll actually be able to

593
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: practice the plays in training camp practices now more than

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: they used to.

595
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Speaker 2: It's spoken like somebody's been coaching special teams for like

596
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Speaker 2: twenty five years. That's wow, Okay, that's interesting. What just

597
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: watching the watching the cover team line up across from

598
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: the return team and there's a five yard gap. First

599
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: of all, there were some media members going, wait a minute,

600
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Speaker 2: I thought it was ten yards. No, it's five yards.

601
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: They're separated by five yards, but they can't move into

602
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: the ball is either touched or hits the.

603
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: Ground, which is also interesting because then you're having you know,

604
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: players having their head turned of seeing and then and

605
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: that's part of it. But yeah, it was very interesting.

606
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Speaker 3: I took like a video too, and I put out

607
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: on Twitter from it. But it's interesting to see the changes.

608
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: One thing, it's funny that they were sending the ten yards.

609
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: A lot of people heard that it's like the XFL

610
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: rule and then assumed when they're watching video the XFL kickoffs,

611
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: it's the exact same thing, and it's not. And I

612
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: remember Rogers telling me that, and in fact, Jeff Rogers

613
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: told me that because I had talked to him a

614
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Speaker 4: couple of three weeks after the owner's meetings where they

615
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Speaker 4: passed it. They passed it at the owners meetings, and

616
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Speaker 4: then he said they had already tweaked it since then. Wow,

617
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Speaker 4: so it's already a little different than when they originally

618
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: announced it in a couple of little areas. But yeah,

619
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Speaker 4: the head turning thing is to me fascinating because he

620
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Speaker 4: said at one point, he said, there's gonna be things

621
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Speaker 4: we're teaching these guys that we've now had teach them before.

622
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Speaker 4: And I brought up the head turning thing later and

623
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Speaker 4: he goes, that's one of the things I'm talking about.

624
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Speaker 4: He goes, so what do you do do you have

625
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Speaker 4: them looking back at your What you're probably gonna do

626
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: is the blockers are gonna have to just stare straight

627
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: ahead at their guy, and they're just gonna have to

628
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: react to those guys because if you're head is turned,

629
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: the guy might be pasted you by the time you

630
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: react once the ball is touched, because they get to

631
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: look right at it.

632
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Speaker 2: And my observation out in the field, and I would

633
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Speaker 2: ask Jeff Rodgers if he's here right now, I'd be

634
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: like James Coach, what do you think the odds are

635
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a ton of violations of guys leaving early.

636
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: That was gonna be my question if have you guys

637
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: seen anything about it? What the penalty is for that, because.

638
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a kin to an NBA free throw.

639
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Guys are into the lane before the ball's out of

640
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: the shooter's hand, is you know, now a sac flying baseball,

641
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: much more precise. Guys don't get away with much there.

642
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: But I mean, you tell me that there won't be

643
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: what eighteen guys out there on that field who aren't

644
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: prone to leave in a little bit early in gamesmanship

645
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: and trying to get an edge on the other I mean,

646
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Speaker 2: I'm really curious how that's going to play out in reality.

647
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Speaker 4: Well, the one thing I did ask Jeff Rodgers about

648
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Speaker 4: how they might apply penalties, and he said he thinks

649
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Speaker 4: that that the idea is going to be that they're

650
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: going to let the play role and then you would

651
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: add penal the yardy john to the end of the play.

652
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: Either way, it's needed, it's necessary. There were almost two

653
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: thousand touchbacks last year in the Super Bowl. Someone on

654
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: the sideline said there were thirteen kickoffs zero returns, and

655
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: that less than twenty percent of kickoffs resulted in a

656
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: return last year.

657
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: I thought gard Dek was funny. I mean, he was

658
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: being serious and he was like, I don't want to

659
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: run all the way down there just for a touchback,

660
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: like I want to get my hands on someone.

661
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: It's a dead play. And if they were going to

662
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: allow it to stand as is, they would just be

663
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: eliminated eventually. That based on the also the fact that

664
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, some of the injury rates they related to

665
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: that play were not good.

666
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: It was the play was going to go away if

667
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: they didn't fix it right drat dramatically, it was going

668
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: to go on.

669
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: We haven't had enough to change an answer. It did

670
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 3: make me think about asking the two of you a question, though,

671
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: watching at practice all of this on Tuesday and they

672
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: have ninety players, right, so there's so many returners that

673
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: they are just rotating through right now. And I'm thinking,

674
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: I know, we talked recently about if at all this

675
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: is going to change how rosters are configured, right, and

676
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: we're talking about how many running backs are currently in

677
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: this room. It doesn't make sense logistically for the Cardinals

678
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: to keep that many. And then we're watching these the

679
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: kickoffs at practice on Tuesday, and I'm thinking, do they

680
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: keep all?

681
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: What?

682
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Do they have six running backs in that room right

683
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: now and you've got returners? And I know we haven't

684
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: seen enough to have an answer, but I did think

685
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: about that in having to remind myself to ask the

686
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: two of you later in training camp once we get

687
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: a closer look of I know we were told, oh

688
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: we really you know, adjust roster configuration. I think it will.

689
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: I want to see who to a certain extent, I

690
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 4: want to see who's You've mentioned the two lines that

691
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: are five yards apart. Who are in those lines? Like

692
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: does it look a lot like before or is there

693
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: a significant difference?

694
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: And what's the best sort of return man right your

695
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: return specialist? I mean, in the past, if you had

696
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: a Greg Dorch because there's more space, there's more room

697
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: to operate. If it's a much more confined situation, one

698
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy pound dude doesn't work as well as

699
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: maybe a Trey Benson or a DJ Dallas. So I'm

700
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: curious what's the best sort of return.

701
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: Well, here's my question. Do you think there's gonna be

702
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: more space or less space?

703
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: I'd say less.

704
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: I would think more, okay, based on because you're already

705
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 4: gonna have a head start before these guys can even

706
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: move in theory, because you're catching the ball in theory

707
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: on the run. Perhaps maybe not on the run, but

708
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna have a little momentum before they

709
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: can even move, and that's before they can really pinch down.

710
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: And I just think, I mean, there's gonna be more

711
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 4: of this, more of the across, right. The horizontal space

712
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: might be a little bit less, but I would think

713
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 4: there'd be less. That's just that would be my guess.

714
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

715
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean, but we can debate it, Paul,

716
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: if you really want no. No, I mean, well, the

717
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: other aspect of it too is okay, if you have

718
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: a straight line of the kick cover team, are do

719
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: you have a safety of any sort back there. You

720
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: can't count on your kicker. What if somebody gets through

721
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: to the second level, if you will of a kickoff return,

722
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: somebody just kind of drop back, right, who's your safety?

723
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: Who can actually tackle? All due respect, forty year old

724
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Matt Prater's not going to tackle anyone in space. So

725
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: that there's just so much about it that it's actually

726
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: doing the unthinkable and making the preseason intriguing.

727
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: Right, maybe we should keep that third game, By the.

728
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Way, Danny, your question earlier was something along lines of

729
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: the position group that received like the least attention or

730
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: didn't involve as much as any other writing that you're

731
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: talking about the edge right, the edge players.

732
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 4: And whatever agency.

733
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I'd say the safeties. I'd throw that in there,

734
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: just because it's my segue into Doesn't it seem like

735
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: it's really been a quiet off season when it comes

736
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: to a Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson just haven't heard

737
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: much that No, not necessarily, although so.

738
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: Are you wagering that they will or will not talk

739
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: to the media.

740
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: I'd say brought, I'd say based on what we see

741
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: and just just not It's just maybe by choice. I'm

742
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: not true.

743
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: We've got we've got three more media availabilities before the

744
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: end of the preseason.

745
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: I mean, in the pastas one of those two would

746
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: always be near you, near the front end of any

747
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: media availability. So we haven't heard from either one of

748
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: them yet.

749
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: Well, in theory, we're still talking about nine players have

750
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: to come out.

751
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: So I saw it the Siria and the other thing.

752
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: I saw it there serious NFL Radio throughout their off

753
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: season position rankings, okay, and they got to safety and

754
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: it's the top five at every top five teams at

755
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: every position. Do you see this?

756
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: And you told me about it, and you're very passionate

757
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: about it, So I'm excited for you to share.

758
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: That, okay. But I didn't tweet it out because I

759
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: had to pump the brakes. And I thought, all right,

760
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm too maybe I'm too much of a

761
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: homer on this one.

762
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I disagree we would ever call you.

763
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: A homer part just you know, I just maybe it's

764
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: my affinity for JT and Buddha Baker. But I looked

765
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: at six other teams ahead of the Cardinals, at least

766
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: six other teams. You don't even know where they have

767
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: the Cardinals duo rated, but Chicago and Dallas with a

768
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: better safety duo than the Arizona Cardinals. I get it,

769
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: you win four games, you under the radar just in general,

770
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: but considering Buddha has been to how many Pro Bowls

771
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: at this point every year for the last six or

772
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: seven straight years, I just thought, maybe, just maybe he

773
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: might actually crack that list.

774
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: So I feel like Jalen Thompson is one of those

775
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: players that nobody knows outside of Arizona.

776
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: Though, So anyway, I throw that out there. I also

777
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: wonder what Buddha thinks of the Antoine Winfield contract, which

778
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: was mind boggling that a safety would get that much

779
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: money in a safety is now the highest paid defensive

780
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: back in the league.

781
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: Especially when we were just having a conversation earlier in

782
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: the offseason all safeties were starting to not get the

783
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: big contracts.

784
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that whole deal is definitely interesting to me.

785
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: But the biggest Holly can only stat from the Tuesday

786
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: media availability between Dennis Gardak, Paris Johnson, Junior James Connor,

787
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: and then the head coach, Jonathan Gannon is the following

788
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson junior, has never ever been a team captain really,

789
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: and then he explained the circumstances, right, Danny.

790
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: He said he transferred in high school his senior year

791
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: and even though he was the top tackle in the nation,

792
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: he was told, you know, you just got here. We

793
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: can't make you a captain. And he said, you know,

794
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: I understood players that had been there for a long time.

795
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: That's fine. Then he goes to Ohio State top tackle,

796
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: still not a captain, and I guess in high school

797
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: he started joking that, ah, you know, my time will

798
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: come in the pros, and now it seems like that

799
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: is what would likely happen. I can for sure see

800
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: Paris becoming a team captain at some point, and he

801
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: said that's a goal for him. And you know, leadership

802
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: is something he has been very intentional about this offseason,

803
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: especially with DJ Humphreys no longer being on the roster.

804
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: The two of them are still very close. In fact,

805
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: Paris said he recently bought a house near DJ and

806
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: said that he's just going to start yelling DJ's name

807
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: out in the backyard when he wants him to to

808
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 3: come over. But Paris was saying, you know, he wants

809
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: to be the type of leader that Humphries was of

810
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: always having that big smile, the positive attitude, being that

811
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: consistent person because having that having a veteran for Paris

812
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: during his rookiear last year, saying that, you know, DJ

813
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: always brought the good attitude and the positivity allowed me

814
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: to just kind of focus on what I needed to do.

815
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: And so Paris wants to be that type of leader

816
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: for everybody else in that offensive line room. So I'm

817
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: sure that getting that captain patches in his near future.

818
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: If I had to guess, shout out to Paris Johnson

819
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: Junior's neighbors, he stands six seven, three hundred pounds, So

820
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: before you shout out your own winter shut it on

821
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: a Sunday morning or whatever, just beware he's an extra

822
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: large man down there. So he also always said he

823
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: has a secret handshake with James Connor, which doesn't surprise

824
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: me because he had to check that box, scratch that

825
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: itch if you will, because he had a secret handshake

826
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: on the sideline with DJ Humphreys as well.

827
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: Quick clarification, how secret is the secret handshake when you're

828
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: doing it in front of thousands of people every week?

829
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: Just still secret of darre.

830
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: That's not my description, it's his description. I'm just saying

831
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: over there.

832
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: Maybe they have a second handshake, one for public and

833
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: one for private.

834
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: By the way I was explaining to Craig Rielu going

835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: back to nicknames, there could be a brewing controversy here

836
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: will bit internally you want to nickname in that Trey

837
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: Benson has been known for a long time as big

838
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: play Trey. So you know what this means, Paul. It

839
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: means that we have to go with the CALVC consulting default,

840
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: a nickname that we threw out last year, Trey mcplay. Sorry,

841
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: Trey big play Tray has already taken. I don't care

842
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: whether you earned that in high school in Colorado State

843
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: or not. But Trey Benson comes with that nicknames, Oh,

844
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: you were going to fit into Trey mcplay.

845
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: So we're keeping both Trey McBride is Trey mcplay correct

846
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: and Trey Benson the rookie running back. Why not getting

847
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: that mixed up?

848
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: Why Trey Benson get to keep that one? He's the rookie?

849
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: Well, because you know, they're both quality nicknames.

850
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: So you know, you just we need to they're both

851
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: quality and aims or you're you came up with Trey

852
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: mcplay and you really want to get the assaulting business.

853
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Let him make decisions? Does he pleases?

854
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: And I know McBride a little bit better, and I

855
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: keep Wolf off McBride, so he owes me one. Okay,

856
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: so I keep Wolf away from from Trey or else

857
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: he just starts talking run blocking nauseum.

858
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: So well, why would Tray McBride be any different?

859
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: That's right? So uh so okay. Any other takeaways from

860
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: what you heard at the media session in terms of

861
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, all right, well that was interesting.

862
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: Not I mean, I I just think that we are

863
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 4: in this time frame, and I mean this is going fast.

864
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: You know, They've got a couple more days this week,

865
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: They've got next week and then mini camp and then

866
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: it's Wow. For all the conversations we had about how

867
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: the off season might change, it hasn't changed this year.

868
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: And it's almost over, and I'm gonna be fascinated to

869
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: see what this team looks like when we finally get

870
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: to training camp. And and you know, how are many

871
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: open practices? There are nine or ten? You know, that

872
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: kind of thing, and whether this team can make that

873
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: kind of jump. We keep talking about all these great things.

874
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's fascinating to me that how

875
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: much leadership we're talking about here, whether it's Paris or

876
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: Kyler or James Connor or whomever. When you know, again,

877
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 4: I contrast that from where I sit in the Valley

878
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 4: and you all we heard all Sun season was that

879
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: they didn't have any leadership. I think the Cardinals seemed

880
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: like they're in pretty good shape of that. Now, again,

881
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: that's got to translate on the field, and we'll see

882
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: how that goes.

883
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: By the way, if Lebron comes to the Valley, lookout,

884
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: that's going to be a vacuum of media coverage like

885
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: you've never seen before.

886
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: He could come play a EDG rusher.

887
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Didn't he play a little high school football receiver. It

888
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. If you want to go.

889
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: Back, him and Kevin Durant played flag football or something

890
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: like that, like touch football during the NBA strike back

891
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 4: in the day or lockout or whatever, and you can

892
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: find the video on YouTube of and it's it's ridiculous,

893
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 4: I mean, watching him go up for passes and stuff.

894
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure for all that debate over whether NBA players

895
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: could play in the NFL or vice versa, we've all

896
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: said this. I mean, I think Lebron James would have

897
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: been just fine as an NFL B.

898
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I totally agree on that one,

899
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: no question about all right. So, speaking open practices, I

900
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: was carrying Griolou and Kyle Van and Bosch on the

901
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: Red Sea report. I missed the open portion of practice.

902
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Anything to report any top any top highlights that happened, Kyla,

903
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: Let's just get right to it. This is where I'm

904
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: going anyway, Kyler to Marvin Harrison Junior. Did it happen

905
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: with frequency? What did it look like? Danny? That's what

906
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: people want to know.

907
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: The interesting timing is the part of practice that is

908
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: open for us to report on and take photos and videos.

909
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: There are very few passes between quarterback and receivers at

910
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: that time, and that's also on the opposite the far field,

911
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: in the opposite corner behind like a lot of big

912
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: equipment and people walking, so it's pretty obstructed. So that's

913
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: my way of saying no, that's my way saying no. No,

914
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: big big throws from k One to Marvin Harrison while we.

915
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 4: Were while we were able to chart, Okay, I feel

916
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: safe in saying that that chemistry will come together before

917
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 4: it matters, really, even if we're not allowed to report

918
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: on it. Okay, yeah, are you are you concerned.

919
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: About that a little bit? A little bit? I mean,

920
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: are they going to get enough meaningful reps together in

921
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: the preseason? Will they risk that to actually translate into

922
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: the regular season. But you're saying you're pretty dang confident

923
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: that Boom against Buffalo Week one that's gonna be a

924
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: productive combo? Is that what you're saying.

925
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm saying they're gonna get you. You're making it

926
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: sound like I'm just saying we can't report on what's

927
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: going on. I'm just saying I'm not worried about You're

928
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: making it sound like they're not even getting reps when

929
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: we're not allowed to report.

930
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: No, I didn't No, I didn't say that.

931
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: I know you didn't say that, but you sound like

932
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: you're worried about it.

933
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, reps on air, as we all know, is

934
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: vastly different than regular season reps.

935
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: Okay, then then none of right now matters anyways.

936
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: I just wondering. Okay, No, I was in a good

937
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: look in Indy. I was encouraged by your confidence. I

938
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: really was, I was. I was trying to Okay, they

939
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: can both play football.

940
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: They'll be fine.

941
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: Here's what Michael Wilson had to say in Arizona Sports

942
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: last week about Marvin Harrison Junior. And they asked him

943
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: just first impressions, takeaways, and he said, and I'm loosely

944
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: quoting here, you're able to get a good tell of

945
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: a person's personality after just a couple of days. This

946
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: is once again Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison Junior. He's

947
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: not extroverted, but he's extremely confident in himself. You can

948
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: tell that he has a natural feel for the position.

949
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: He's able to do things not many players are able

950
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: to do. He's also extremely detail oriented as well. He

951
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: hasn't had hardly any emmes, mental errors or bust of plays.

952
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: And I know I couldn't say that about myself this

953
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: point last year. So Michael Wilson said, he also may

954
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: have known that people don't take into consideration just how

955
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: hard it is being a rookie in the NFL, trying

956
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: to process everything and then simultaneously trying to play fast.

957
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Know the offense, know the game, know the opposition, know

958
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: what they're throwing at you, and try and play fast,

959
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: because that is the name of the game in the NFL.

960
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: So I thought that was a pretty astute observation from

961
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: his rookie season Michael Wilson. And maybe just maybe everybody's

962
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: sleeping on Michael Wilson to some degree this year. I

963
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: don't know, Danny. You know, look, he flashed pretty dang

964
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: well at the very end of last year when he

965
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: finally got Kyler's trust, right.

966
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: Once it seemed like Michael Wilson had enough experience to

967
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: feel comfortable in himself. And then again you throw in

968
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: the fact that he didn't have his starting quarterback for

969
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: the first half of the season, so then once you

970
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: get to the two of them to start having some

971
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: chemistry because as a rookie, he didn't have any experience

972
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: with Kyler right, nothing previous years or in the offseason.

973
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: So if you're going to go based off that, I

974
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: would say, yeah, Michael Wilson's trending upwards for a year

975
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: two based on how he ended last year. He's been

976
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: one of the consistent faces we've seen in social media

977
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: posts working out with Kyler and putting in that work.

978
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: So I would imagine that he's poised for a big year,

979
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: especially if defense is right off the bat, are just

980
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: going to zero in on Harrison Junior? I mean, let

981
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson go and put up a good fight.

982
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: On the other hand, does that happen?

983
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: Do you think defenses automatically give extra attention to Marvin

984
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior right out of the gate?

985
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about.

986
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: Great question. Great question. Does the gravitational poll of a

987
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: defense automatically go towards number eighteen? It's a legitimate question.

988
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: If he puts a few plays on film in the preseason,

989
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: I'd say yes. All that extra attention that Trey McBride got,

990
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Trey mcplay got the end of last season,

991
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: I think it does go towards Marvin Harrison Junior. And

992
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: if not McBride, then I think Michael Wilson is the

993
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: beneficiary of that. If not, James Connor, I'm sulf That's

994
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: the question I asked James Connor, just are you gonna

995
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: see lighter boxes just because the Cardinals got a receiver

996
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: number four?

997
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: Overall?

998
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't disagree. I say this, and we're so far

999
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: away from it. It also won't surprised me if we

1000
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: don't even see a lot of Marvin Harrison Junior in

1001
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: preseason games for that exact reason. Knowing how much this

1002
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: coaching staff really thinks about competitive advantages this far away

1003
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: from preseason, it wouldn't surprise me not say he wouldn't

1004
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: play at all, but that we wouldn't see a lot

1005
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: of him for that exact reason.

1006
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Story that I've told before, but I'll tell it again.

1007
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: Two thousand and three, get to and that's those these

1008
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: are days. Are four preseason games, and I think an

1009
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: KWin Bolden had two catches in the preseason and he

1010
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna play in the final preseason game. And I'm

1011
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: talking to Jerry Sullivan, who was the offensive coordinator receivers

1012
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: coach at the time, and I'm like, why I thought

1013
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: an KWin Bolden was supposed to be this guy that

1014
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: you guys were really going to count on. And he goes, oh,

1015
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: we're gonna count on him. He goes, this was the

1016
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: Friday before the first game. He goes, we're gonna kind

1017
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 4: of he goes, watch Sunday. He goes, you'll you'll see

1018
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: why we didn't want to play him a lot. We

1019
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: didn't want anybody to know what was coming. But you're

1020
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: gonna see what's coming. And of course we know that

1021
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 4: first game. Yeah, ten catches, two hundred and seventeen yards,

1022
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Now, I'm not saying that that's what Marvin

1023
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: Harrison is going to do against Buffalo.

1024
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: But but that's why I jumped on your comment earlier, Darren,

1025
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: when you said you were confident that there was going

1026
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: to be instant chemistry and production between Kyler and Marvin

1027
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. Because the Danny's point, he might not play

1028
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: a lot in the preseason.

1029
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you get a whole lot out

1030
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: of playing in the preseason. And I'm okay, So now

1031
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna now I'm gonna sound I'm here's how I

1032
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: feel about preseason games. I mean, I'm not sitting here

1033
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: saying he's going to go ten, two, seventeen and two.

1034
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 4: And I'm not sitting here saying he's gonna have one

1035
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: hundred catches as a rookie. But if you can play,

1036
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: you can play, and if you've got a good quarterback,

1037
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: which he does, to me, that's what's gonna make him good. Yeah,

1038
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: you're they're gonna get reps in practice, They'll get enough

1039
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: to do that stuff, but like whether they play a

1040
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: whole bunch when it doesn't count. I really don't think

1041
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 4: that matters. I really truly don't think that matters.

1042
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: And that's why, you know, comments like that are intriguing

1043
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: because I don't think we will know. There won't be

1044
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: much visual evidence as to what's coming Week one at Buffalo.

1045
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: I just know. To finish up the thought with Michael

1046
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: Wilson what he said on Arizona Sports, he said, as

1047
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: an example, you know, a year ago, I was out

1048
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: there running routes. But now this time around, I know

1049
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: when Kyler calls a play, I know what is read

1050
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: progression is. I know when I'm the main read or

1051
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: the main target against a certain coverage. Now I recognize

1052
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: all those coverage. So last year I didn't totally understand

1053
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: even the offense our scheme, much less the defense. He said,

1054
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: Now I understand the matchup, the coverage we're trying to

1055
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: exploit from an offensive coordinator's perspective, So all these things

1056
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: go into it. And that's why I wonder. Okay, Michael Wilson,

1057
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: for more reasons than one, might actually be poised for

1058
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: a big season as well. If he can stay healthy

1059
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: and we know how important that is to him on

1060
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: that front.

1061
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: So, and I think it's also important to remember when

1062
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: we I mean, they can't all have big seasons, at

1063
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 4: least statistically you can't. You're not gonna have Marvin Harrison

1064
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 4: with ninety catches and Michael Wilson with eighty catches and

1065
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: Trey McBride with seventy five catches. That's not gonna happen.

1066
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: So these guys could have really good seasons just statistically

1067
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 4: it won't blow up because you've got other people. And also,

1068
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 4: so when you have all those stats, you better be

1069
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: scoring a ton of points and holding the ball and

1070
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: awful lot and they've still got a show. They can

1071
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: do that on a consistent basis.

1072
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson's rookie year, he had fourteen hundred yards receiving,

1073
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred yards. Even Jamar Chase the next year had

1074
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: one four hundred and fifty five yards receiving and was

1075
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: a pro bowler in the offensive Rookie of the Year.

1076
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Are you saying, Darren, just the nature of this offense

1077
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: that Marvin Harrison Junior wouldn't be featured, No such a degree.

1078
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 4: No, No, what I'm saying is if Marvin Harrison has

1079
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: one hundred catches. Michael Wilson might have a really good

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Speaker 4: year but only have five hundred yards. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: If if Marvin Harrison is getting a hundred catches, then

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride might be a better tight end than last

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00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 4: year and his stats might go down. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: They can't all get huge stats.

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Speaker 2: Well, and again, if the run game evolves. You had

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00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: a top five run game a year ago, and if

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Speaker 2: it evolves, then there's gonna be a lot of catches

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Speaker 2: off play action, there's gonna be a balanced offense.

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Speaker 4: That's all true. And again, but like I look back,

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00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: like the two thousand and eight Cardinals had three one

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00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: thousand yard receivers and were hillacious in the past game,

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Speaker 4: but their run game was dog duty so at least

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Speaker 4: in the regular season. So I'm like something has to give.

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Speaker 2: Right And by the way, I thought it was an

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: astute question to James Connor at the very end of

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Speaker 2: his press conference just about his fit for this offense,

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Speaker 2: that what they want to do in the run game

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: just suits his strengths who he is as a player,

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Speaker 2: and you understand why he missed four games last year

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Speaker 2: and still had his first ever thousand yard rushing season.

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Speaker 3: Violent. I believe that was the word used in the

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: question of that's what the coaching staff wants, that's the

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Speaker 3: style they're coaching, and that's the style of running that

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Speaker 3: James Connor likes to use. And so it is. It

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00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: is a match that works out well for both sides,

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: a good pairing, and Connor talked about you know, that

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Speaker 3: played a role as to why he did have such

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: a spectacular season, the best in his career statistic last

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Speaker 3: year without even playing every game.

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Speaker 4: I want to know when this podcast becomes more violent, Paul,

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Speaker 4: weren't you gonna stay No?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, because maybe the better

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Speaker 2: phrase instead of violence would be Kramit vertical. Why haven't

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Speaker 2: they embraced Krammitt vertical? Why don't they use that in

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Speaker 2: a public setting?

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Speaker 4: Why not? I actually am keeping a list of things

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 4: that you would like to, you know, Champion Institute, Trey

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00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: mcplay Krammit vertical. I'm planning I'm taking it to Brandon

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Speaker 4: Schwab and see if we can go ahead and get

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Speaker 4: that painted on the walls in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Just make sure that it comes directly from Paul Calvic

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Speaker 3: when you're pitching.

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Speaker 4: Technically, Gannon was the first person to say kram.

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Speaker 2: It right exactly. It's his words. We pulled it. It

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Speaker 2: was out of his mouth. Kram it vertical.

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Speaker 4: Now, between Zach Gershman and Paul Calvic, they have hung

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Speaker 4: onto that phrase like there's no tomorrow. But it was

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon first.

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Speaker 2: It's good, all right, Well, the folks in R and

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Speaker 2: D have been tasked with bjo Jali Right now, the

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Speaker 2: clubhouse leader is nine ball.

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Speaker 4: I am so exit for next week's show when we

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Speaker 4: get the official Okay, we're not talking about Pico Degaio

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Speaker 4: the dog anymore, and we're talking about bj O.

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Speaker 2: You know what we are talking about. As we wrap

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Speaker 2: this up, this headline I saw on the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal over the weekend. You're ready for this, Danny, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I regret this is the actual headline. I regret to

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Speaker 2: inform you that sweatpant sweatpant genes are sweeping America sweat.

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Speaker 3: So they look it's denim on the outside, sweatpants on

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Speaker 3: the inside.

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Speaker 2: It looks like denim, but apparently it's sweatpant material. It's

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Speaker 2: quote a hybrid pant company enough for working from home

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Speaker 2: and presentable enough to wear in public. It's a viral hit,

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Speaker 2: and there's an actual customer, satisfied customer who's quoted. She says,

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Speaker 2: everyone is legit shocked when they find out they're actually sweatpants.

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Speaker 3: These are the new jeggings.

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Speaker 4: I want to know who's using ie in a headline?

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Speaker 4: What kind of journalism is that.

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: It's sort of like a yeah, it's sort of like

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Speaker 2: a first person regrettable, you know type things. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: there would that be approved?

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Speaker 3: Darren? If I wore those to work, would I get.

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Speaker 2: In trouble on a Friday? It's perfectly fine, I would say.

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Speaker 3: No, that's well, I guess yeah, I can't wear genes

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Speaker 3: on another day.

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Speaker 2: I found out for my fourteen year old over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: By the way she informed me that Dad ankle socks

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Speaker 2: are out. Apparently my low cut Nike ankle socks, just.

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Speaker 4: With regular Nike shoes are supposed to rot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't get it. Apparently it's just

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Speaker 2: she added to the list of areas in which Dad

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Speaker 2: doesn't have any riz.

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Speaker 3: So palmable heart It's fine. I'm not going to get

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Speaker 3: into it to you.

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Speaker 4: You sound so disappointed when you are.

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Speaker 3: I'm not disappointed.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say you are disappointed. I said you sound disappointed.

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Speaker 2: She sometimes she's just weary from trying to educate us,

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Speaker 2: and that'll do it. For this addition, Cardinals Underground brought

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