1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Jags Reporters podcast. My 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: name is J P. Shadrick. John osiers with us. What's 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: up Johnny sitting here watching Ashley cheerio. Ashlan Sullivan is 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: with us. She's hungry. You caught me at my snack time. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: What do you want from you? Put the phone down, 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: you put the Twitter away for a little while. Good 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: millennials these days, I tell you, so annoying, not at all. 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for jumping out. Well, that's what this is about. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Two podcasts. That's a new rage now too. So we're 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: doing the cool kids are doing. Yeah, that's why we're 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: doing it. That's right all of us. Let's talk some 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: big Jaguars topics here, and let's start with something that's 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: pretty topical for you, Ashley. I mean, you sat down 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: today on Tuesday with the quarterback. Gardner meant you the 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: second for a piece. It's going to come out later. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Where when and what wasn't? Yes? So we uh if 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: you guys remember way back in May when Foles was 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: signed as a free agent, we sat down with Doug 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Groan and offensive coordinator John d. Philippo and broke down 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of foals touchdowns in Philly, UM, and it 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: was really cool just to see how a coach and 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator think when they watch film. So we did 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: that with Gardner actually today because I feel like we 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: have seen so much the personality side of Gardner. We've 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: seen the mush dash, the jeorts, the press conferences, but 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: we really haven't seen the football I Q that everyone 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: has talked about ever since he was drafted here that 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: that's so doubt. I don't think fans have gotten a 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: chance to see that side of him. So I was 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: pretty impressed because I was so used to him joking 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: around and I was asking him questions and it was 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: it was straight football. Um. So we broke down four 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: of his touchdowns so far this season and that will 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: be on Jaguars dot Com on Friday Friday coming up. 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna wait all the way to Friday. Can't deep 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: teas looking forward to seeing that. And uh, I think 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: what fans will see is a guy who's really a 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: lot different than the demeanor. And UH, I wish that 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: fans nationally meaning non Jaguars fans, these fans who just 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: see the mustache, who just see the Twitter stuff on Gardner, 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: I would see that. I guess they can. They can 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: look at it just free site. There's no uh, there's 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: no password. Not necessary. Um, because you don't do what 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: he's doing without being off the charts good at the 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: quarterback stuff and more and more. These kids now in 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: his fifth game and you haven't seen any flaws in 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: the system. If you will, you everything that he's doing, 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: that he's doing well is stuff that is long term, 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: is stuff that will last. He's not creating with his feet, 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: he's not fluking into these things. He's reading the defense. 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: He's only gonna get better at these spots. I think 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: what Ashlyn is doing is looking is talking to the 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: guy who's going to be the quarterback Sunday. He's gonna 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: be the quarterback in the second half of the season. 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: He he's the guy you're calling it right, thank you. 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see how you can pull him out. 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna show flaws. I don't know 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with doesn't matter of the record 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: at this point. Um, if he's playing like he's playing, 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how the franchise comes off that. Because 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: he's he's playing like a franchise quarterback. You I mean, 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: he's not playing like Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Rod that, 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: but he's playing like young versions of those things. And 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what he could have shown so far 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to not deserve that opportunity. I think he's going to 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: get it. Incredible right, and it's a it's an amazing 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: story if that ends up being the case. Moving ahead 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: over the next few weeks, we look forward to seeing 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: that coming up on Friday, though. I think everybody will 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: be excited for that. Now. It helps when you have 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: guys around you making plays too. And today I had 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: a chance to go to the Habitat for Humanity Project. 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: There's one up here in the north of the stadium 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: in North Jacksonville here and D J. Chark Jr. Was there. Um, 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: he obviously works with his hands on a daily basis here. Uh, 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: he was doing that today at the Habitat for Humanity 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: build project. They're helping install some windows there. He's leading 78 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the A f C and receiving yardage and his body 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: controls unbelievable. He's fast, he can out jump people, he's 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: got everything going on. A year after you weren't so sure, 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: you had the idea that he could come through and 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: do it, but he just didn't show it on the field. 83 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: Now it's I mean, he's among the top receivers in 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: football and it's amazing to see this guy's maturation process. 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Actually it really is. Yeah, And we talked, I know, 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: John was there postgame after the Panthers loss and we 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, he was acknowledging the other 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the room how impressed he was that 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: they all stayed so patient with him because everyone knew 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: he had it in and we've been talking about for 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: a year now that we know he has the athletic ability, 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: it was just when is it going to click? And 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: it clicked. Ever since the start of the season. We 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: knew he had a great training camp, wasn't going to 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: transfer to games. It definitely has. And when we were 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: talking today in the film room with Gardner and I 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: brought up DJ Shark and he was saying, how it's 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: gone to the point now where the ball is snapped, 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: he's looking where he is. I don't care what the 100 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: play call is. I always in the back of my 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: head and thinking where's Shark, because how could he not? 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: He's so reliable. Their relationships so confident. Um, so it 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: was cool to hear that regardless of the play, he 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: wants to know where Chark is. Well, I mess, she's 105 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: a smart guy. It's smart to look for Chark because 106 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: he's always open. And you know, I only started covering 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: football by twenty five years ago. Being open is a 108 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: good thing. But he's he's um beyond that simple analysis. Um, 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: what you wonder about DJ Shark is I look at 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: him and I still see a player who in a 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: lot of ways is raw. Uh. He's dramatically improved as 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: a route runner. He is doing things veterans do. But 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: I've got to think that he thinks, and that Keenan thinks, 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: there's so much more this kid can do in terms 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: of development. Um, he doesn't. He's getting so much of 116 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: his production off long stuff, long crossing routes. Once he 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: completely masters a third and five out patterns on third down, Uh, 118 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: the quick throws across the middle. This analysis is going 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: to be a criticism of him. I think he's only 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: scratching the surface. I mean, and so much better than 121 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: you thought he would be. Im It's become very vogue, 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: obviously to talk about Gardner Minshew charts development. I think 123 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: has really helped Menshew. It's given him a go to 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: that I don't think people thought he was gonna have 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: when he first came in. It's I don't want to 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: say it's more remarkable than Minshew, because anything the quarterback 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: does is remarkable, But charts development is easily the number 128 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: two biggest most important story in this team right now 129 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: because he always felt that the run game was at 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: some point going to be there Leonard for net and 131 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: the whole deal, but it wasn't. But you you've seen 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: that before, you haven't seen chart it might be and 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: and it's gonna sound observes. I'm a quarterback guy, but 134 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: if you look at the league right now, it might 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: be harder to find a true one than it is 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: a a a functioning starting quarterback. Um. Most teams right 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: now have quarterbacks they like, probably twenty five of them. 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm just going out that number. But it feels like 139 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: when you look at most rosters like Okay, I either 140 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: feel like this quarterback is going to develop or I 141 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: feel like he's the guy. UM. True ones meaning a 142 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: guy who can truly beat doubles, which a chart hadn't 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: had to do yet. But that true Uh, you know, 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, big time number one receiver who you have 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: to defend or you're going to lose. Those guys are 146 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: rare chart maybe developing into that, and those guys might 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: be as hard or harder to find that I'm more valuable, 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: but I think they're harder to find somebody. As we 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: were talking on Monday Night Show, and you know, you 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: guys have heard of Tony Boselli, right, he's around, He's 151 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: on the wall and a whole deal. So we were 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: discussing the wide receivers for this franchise, in this franchise's history, 153 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: and he was making the argument that DJ Chark is 154 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: already the third best receiver in franchise history, behind Jimmy 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: and Keenan and Pech. Like Pete Priscoe was like, you know, 156 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: you may not be far off. And Allen Robinson had 157 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: a year. You know, they had the run of receivers 158 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: that didn't work out here in the higher rounds. Um 159 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Cecil Shortz wouldn't qualify. Justin Blackman had some big games 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: but didn't last. Now it's early for charging get that, 161 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: but it's hard, I mean, and I don't know, here's 162 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: any question that he's going to be number three very quickly. Um, 163 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to complete discount what a Rob did, 164 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: uh and what he's going to continue doing in his career. 165 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: Remember a Rob's stuff. Everybody criticized Blake that year from 166 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: mop up stuff, Well, a lot of Blake stuff was 167 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: also a Rob stuff. So I was never sure that 168 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: a Rob was going to be a a true must 169 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: guard you lose the game one. And what I mean 170 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: by that is if you don't guard him a certain way, 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: Chart's gonna beat you. And then if you do guard 172 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: him a certain way, it has to be. Doubles is 173 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: what he's gearing toward. And if you double him all 174 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can dictate what you're doing offensively 175 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: off of that. That's rare, but I think D's on 176 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: his way to that. Um, he's right now. He's had 177 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: about the career that black Men had black Man. It's 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: a monster games. So black Man still probably I assume 179 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: has more yards and all that. But DJ is clearly 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: gonna play longer and have a career. I think he's 181 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: going to be their first one since Jimmy Smith. Yeah, 182 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: and this is the these catchers. Arabs catched a lot 183 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: of those of the mop up coming back trailing in 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: games and they were out of games. So these are 185 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: in games that are tight that matter. I mean that 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: they they're throwing the ball, they're winning games, they're in 187 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: games to try to win. I mean, these yards are 188 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: yards that matter, and I think that's a big difference 189 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: in these things. Yeah, even when she was talking about today, 190 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Um one of the chart touchdown in the Panthers game, 191 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: not the first one, the second one when it was 192 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: the crossing route and he faked it for not he 193 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: was saying he got hit in the helmet, which is 194 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: why the throw was higher than it was supposed to be. Um, 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: he said, I had no doubt that if it's anywhere 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: in the vicinity of chart, he's going to get it. Well, 197 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: to think about what he's doing to the touchdowns that 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: he's scoring matter. Yeah, the one against Kansas City that 199 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: he got from Folds, they were it was in the 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: heat of the game when it got them back into 201 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: the game, temporary for Foals got hurt and everything came off. 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Should have tied the game or should have won the 203 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: game against Houston, had one taken away in Denver, that 204 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: was a must situation where they're trying to come back. 205 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: He his touchdowns have gotten them back in games, have 206 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: have tied games. They catch the other day, they got 207 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: them back onto the one yard line. Um, he's making 208 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: plays that get them back in the games where they 209 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: feel like it's getting away from him. Those are monster plays. 210 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: A Rabs catches in the one year that he had 211 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: can't stack up to that because the team wasn't as competitive. 212 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: It's not a knock on a rob is just the 213 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: situations were different. DJ Chart makes big plays when they matter. 214 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: John Osier with us Ashelan Sullivan, I'm JP Shattick the 215 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Jags Reporters podcast. Let's flip it around a defense. A 216 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: couple more topics here on this Tuesday. Um, we've heard 217 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: all about the run fits or lack thereof last week. 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: A lot of guys, as Tony put it Monday night, 219 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: chasing ghosts and then the middle of the field opened up. 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: McCaffrey's running like pretty much right. And the question now 221 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: is how do you fix it? I mean, do you 222 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: You're not changing personnel? I don't think at this point. 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Jake Ryan ain't walking through that door. As we said 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: last night as well. UM, the linebackers that are here 225 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: are here, right, And that's where the guys kind of 226 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: focused on their criticism of the defense yesterday. What do 227 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you think, well, run fits get fit, and fortunately, gap 228 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: issues and run fits are things that can be fixed 229 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: with the personnel at hand, and you stop getting blocked 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: out of plays easily, which has happened. You stop chasing ghosts, 231 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: which means you stop going after you get your reads correctly. 232 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: A lot of times run fits are based on the linebackers, 233 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: particularly the safeties, to reading the wrong things or misreading 234 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. The biggest thing in my experience, 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: happens with it with run fits or when guys are 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: trying to make the big play, trying to make the 237 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: tackle when their job is to basically stay in your lane, 238 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: stay in your lange line. Um you know, and uh, 239 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: it's essentially for the football novice, you're supposed to fit 240 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: into a gap and basically play that regardless of where 241 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: the runner is at the time. You're playing in gap three, 242 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: for example, the guy next yeas in gap four, gap five. 243 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: If two guys jump into gap four, gap three's open 244 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's Katie bar the door. So that's what happens 245 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: is it's often over zealousness and just saying be patient, 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: play the scheme. When I was with the Colts, they 247 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: had this similar problem in two thousand and six way 248 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They got run on for three 249 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: seventy five out here because they weren't playing their gaps. 250 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: The big thing they talked about that week was trust 251 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: the guy next to you. Trust that he's going to 252 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: make the play, so you don't have to do more 253 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: than your job. Do your job, job, Flint Miles Jack 254 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: took a lot of the blame for this in the 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: locker room. Defensive captain, middle linebacker, getting guys in the 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: right spot. Um, you know, he kind of took the 257 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: fall for this thing. And I mean, honestly, I don't 258 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: think anyone's gonna say it out right, but it is 259 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: on him. I mean, he's the captain of the defense, 260 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: he's the middle linebacker, and he did credit to him 261 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: take the blame for it post game. But he even 262 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: mentioned in the postgame press conference that he was trying 263 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: to make big plays looking at the quarterback and he 264 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: kept getting faked out when Kyle Allen would hump going 265 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: for the big time play the sack. And yeah, I 266 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: mean Christian McCaffrey's eighty what was an eighty four yard run? Yes, 267 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: that was Miles Jack. Yeah, looking at the quarterback. So 268 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: it's on all linebackers, it's on the entire defense. But 269 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: if I'm Miles Jack, I'm definitely focusing on me this week. 270 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: And and what Schlynn said is the definition of what happens. 271 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: You watch the quarterback. He gets you into one lane, 272 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: your lanes open and I and your gaps open, and 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: it's and when that happens, and it happens to a linebacker, 274 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: it amy comes up to the safe. There's a reason 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: they're called safeties. Everybody's coming the linebackers this week. There's 276 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: a reason they're called safeties. They're supposed to be the 277 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: last line of fancy for that because say too, so 278 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: it's not just the linebackers. When linebackers are out of 279 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: their gaps, supposed to be an eight yard play. When 280 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: safety's are out of the gap, it's a touchdown. So 281 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: it's equal. You guys were both in Charlotte, of course, 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: and then we were all in the locker room on Monday, 283 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: but there wasn't much happening in the locker room Monday. 284 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys are out of there. 285 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: But the feel in that locker room after the game, 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: it didn't seem, at least in the videos that I saw, 287 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: that anybody was really freaking out. There's a lot of 288 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: football left for this team, and the offense is doing 289 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: some good things, and the defense they feel like they 290 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: can get back at least we'll see. They got to 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: go approve it. But it didn't seem like anybody's freaking out, Ashley. 292 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm trying to say is that 293 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: accurate freaking out is a term from the freaking It 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: means losing your cool rightly good, which I'm sure, I'm 295 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: sure they're a young kid's way of saying it. Yeah, 296 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I lose my cool, but I didn't in the Panther's 297 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: postgame because no one else did. You were correct with that, um, 298 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I would say the world was more so agitated, just 299 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: agitated that it didn't end out the way that they 300 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: wanted to. But I know Unique and gok Way was 301 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: talking about how it's so great for the defense to 302 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: be on the sidelines and trust that the offense is 303 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: going to score. I mean, that hasn't been like that 304 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: in a long time. Here, and I think that's the 305 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: biggest take away, at least for me in the locker room, 306 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: was the defense has faith in the offense. The defense 307 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: knew it was on them last week and their confident 308 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna get fixed. They're two and three. Uh, they 309 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: were three and two this time last year. Um, But 310 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody around this team who has any 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: sort of a feel for the team would deny that 312 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: there is a dramatically different field going into Week six 313 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: playing the Saints at home, and there was going to 314 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: that Cowboys game last year. I wasn't surprised at all 315 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: watching it they got their doors blowing off in that 316 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: game because it felt like something shaky it happened against 317 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City, injuries, whatever it was, the foundation was broken 318 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: at that point. Not at all that feeling right now. Um, 319 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: even though the two and three compared to three and 320 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: two two years ago, I get a very similar feeling 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: with this team from from listening to coaches, listening to 322 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: the vibe as I had coming out of Pittsburgh at 323 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: three and two two years ago, where you all of 324 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: a sudden thought this team might have something. I don't know, 325 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll play out, but the coaches and players on this 326 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: team think they got something. They think they found something. 327 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: Uh with Minshew, I don't know if it's the camaraderie 328 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: was saying, Hey, Jalen is not here and we're still 329 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: competitive without Uh, that's okay too, you know. I don't 330 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: know if there's a circle in the wagon scents with that. 331 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Don't know what it is, but it's so dramatically different 332 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: than it was this time last year. They've got to 333 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: play it out and win games to back up that feeling. 334 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me all of this team gets 335 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: on a roll. Uh. It feels like two thousand seventeen 336 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: to mean a lot more than this two has an eighteen. 337 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned Jalen. That will be a storyline this week 338 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: to see how the second opinion and all that went, 339 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: and we'll find out from head coach Doug Marone on Wednesday. 340 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: I am sure he'll be asked about that. That will 341 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: be the big national storyline moving ahead here, and I 342 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: think that will be the start of every week until 343 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: it's not a story anymore either way. That's why we 344 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: just put it in the back of the podcast. And 345 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: there's so much better with him on the field. I 346 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: get all that, but at this point, I think they 347 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: feel like and I think coach just feel like it'll 348 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: be harder to win without him. But I think they've 349 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: seen that there's a formula to do without him. And 350 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: I think the attitude a lot of people is we 351 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: love Jail and he's great if he comes back with 352 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: that much better, but we're not dependent on him, and 353 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that's okay. If we learned anything this week, 354 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: ash from careful what you put on social media sometimes 355 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: freak out. Freak out, people freak out over that. I 356 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: was told that in my sorority applies to life. Wow. 357 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: A good college lesson there, All right, guys, thanks a lot, 358 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan, John Osier, UM, it's gonna be a fun week. Yeah, 359 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. John is too. If only you 360 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: could see as am I for our crew. I'm JP Shaddick. 361 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the Jags Reporters podcast.