WEBVTT - The Draymond Green Show - Steph Curry 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:07.280 The volume. The Draymond Green Show is presented by a 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.560 fan duel sports book. There's no better place to bet 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:15.240 the action than on FanDuel sports Book during the football season. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.079 It's easy to use, it's safe and secure, you get 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.160 payouts and as fast as two hours. There's so many 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.880 bet types. My favorite same game parlay bets. There's live betting, 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.960 player props, futures. If you're new, just download the FanDuel 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.400 sports Book app to get started. Now sign up. Please 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:41.560 use the promode code column C O L I. An 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:51.279 fan duel sports book makes it easy. What's up, everybody? 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.280 Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. We are actually 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.360 live here at Chase Center. We're not live, but we're 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.880 You're at Chase Center in the Bridge Club, as you 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.800 can see with the three championship trophies in the bat 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:11.400 and I personally wanted this location for this shoot because 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.840 of today's guests, which I am thrill and excited as 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.880 hell to have. Um. I've been they They've told me 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.160 to stop cursing. I'm excited as fuck about having Steph 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:30.200 Curry today. UM, but let me introduce him the right way, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.440 because I can't just come on here and act like 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.959 you know, this is my man's I don't have to 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.080 do the proper introduction, So that goes to laundry list. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.959 Three time NBA champ. Well, let's rewind a little bit 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.120 because this is actually gonna be a topic. Seventh overall 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.160 pick in the two thousand nine draft, drafted right after 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.040 Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn. Note that we'll 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.760 talk about that later. Three time NBA Champ, two time MVP, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.880 eight time All Star, four time first team All n 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.400 b A, two times second team All NBA, one time 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.240 third team All NBA, two time NBA Scoring chap most 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.840 may threes all time three thousand, one hundred and seventeen 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.639 threes in counting most threes in the season four and two, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.440 it's probably most. And I've had a Micha. Remember, we'll 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.440 talk about that another time. And then the last one 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.480 is irrelevant. We're not only able to talk about that. Steph, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.359 what's uping, my brother? Welcome to the show. It's so 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:36.080 we're hearing that from you. I appreciate it absolutely. Um, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.960 I mean in starters, since since we are discussing that, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.120 you're drafted by the with the seventh pick by the 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.920 Golden State Warriors. Rumor has it that you never wanted 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.960 to play for the Golden State Warriors. K, can you 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:53.560 help me understand that? Yes? Uh, taking me back. So, like, 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.240 the draft is always weird, just because you have a 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.920 plan or you think you know where the best fit is, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.440 and especially when you know in a lottery kind of situation, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.600 you kind of know who you're kind of saw it 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.120 against from other there are kind parts of the same position. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.400 I always want to go to New York. That was it, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.799 Like I was trying to find my way there. Mike 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:22.840 D'Antoni was there. Uh, Danil Gallinari are future past but 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.600 future at the time, teammate David Lee. Like it was 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.079 supposed to be like the running gun type Phoenix two 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.960 point oh offense and I was supposed to be a 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.960 point guard there and they kind of sold me on 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.600 that dream. But they had the eighth pick, so I 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.240 wanted to go there. I didn't work out for a 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.280 Golden State. I didn't come out here before the draft. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.320 I talked to Larry Ry, the then GM in Chicago 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.160 at the pre draft combound for dinner once, talk Don 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.000 Nelson once and that was that was really it. Um 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.360 I think in Minnesota, like they had the five and 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:54.880 six picks. So I was like, all right, if I 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.680 just get past five and six, cool, I'm gonna be 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.440 in New York. It's gonna be dope. And everything that 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.200 I imaged an NBA to be in the fit was 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.280 gonna be there. And then uh, Larry Riley and Don 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.720 Nelson had the plan. Seventh pick came around. Uh oh 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.440 my name. I had like mixed emotions because I know 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.040 his dream country to draft it don't matter where it is. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.440 But I was like, that was not on my radar. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.400 Always that careful what you wished for, and you know, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.160 I got a plan. So uh, thirteen years later, I'm 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.480 still out here here, you know. You know what's what's 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:34.080 what's crazy about that is um when I when I 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:38.479 was going through the draft process, I'm as you know, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.479 I'm a very deep thing. I'd be. I spent my 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.080 pre draft in the East last so driving to the 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.039 airport when I'm headed off for a workout, which I 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.159 know y'all cast a little lot of reflecting there. I 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.440 don't don't act like no, I don't say when I 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.320 got the envelope to go to the green room. Don't 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.119 not for one second. Thing that wasn't a low key shot. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.159 That was definitely a shot. But I'll take that on 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.839 the chain. Um. But I'm driving back and forth to 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.279 the to the airport from east Lands and to the 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.400 Y and I had twenty work ups, so it wasn't 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.680 like I made this drive twice. I made it drive 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.799 probably thirteen times. And I'm riding and I'm thinking about 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.839 the whole process. And as I'm riding, I'm thinking to myself, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.280 like where all the places I would go? And like 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.520 I've told the story before, I had a promise from Indiana. 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.080 I had a promise like if I was still there, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.200 Memphis would take me, Miami would take me. All these 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.520 teams that told me if I was still there, they 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:37.160 would take me. None of them did. But I'm driving 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.040 and them thinking to myself, like where am I going 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:44.080 to end up? And I kid you not. I thought 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.800 to myself one day like I don't know where I'm 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.160 gonna end up, but I do know. And I literally 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.080 had this thought, but I do know. I just won't 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.719 end up in the state of California. And I'm not 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.520 sure why I had that thought. It wasn't even about 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.479 the pick number. It wasn't the pick number. It wasn't 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.760 the Lakers, the Kings, the Warriors, the clip, it wasn't. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.240 It was just I don't think I'm going to end 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.560 up in the state of California. For me, that was 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.600 a big deal. I had never lived outside of the 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.560 state of Michigan, so that was a big deal for me. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.440 But I just never thought I would end up here. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.280 So to hear that you didn't want to come here, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.240 I just can't say that I didn't necessarily want to 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.839 come here. I didn't have that choice or wherever I 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.080 was gonna go, I needed to go straight up, But 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.080 I had no idea that I went end up out here. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.080 And like you said, thirteen years later, ten years later, 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.800 I'm still sitting there for real. And like you grew 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.400 up in Michigan, North Carolina, like I came to l 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.720 A once or twice and never been to the Bay 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.760 up until my junior or college. I played my last 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:49.160 game here at St. Mary's against Patty Mills and um 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 the St. Mary Gaels. That was the first time I 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.800 ever been here. We stayed at the Walnut Creek Marriott. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.880 I used to like live like eight minutes from there. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.560 It's so weird just thinking about how where somebody someplace 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.560 becomes your home just out of out of nowhere, I 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.320 kind of unexpected and start to, uh to build an 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.520 identity out here. So it's pretty dope. What what did 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.680 you make of Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynning getting drafted 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.880 right before you? Did you think there was any chance, um, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:22.120 that Minnesota would draft him before you? Uh? No, No, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.600 was there any chance that Minnesota would draft you? Didn't. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.600 That's what I was thinking. More so, like, because I've 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.200 done my pre draft workouts with pretty much all the 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.040 point guards. At some point Rubio he didn't come over, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:39.000 so I didn't work out with him, but like Johnny Flynn, Tyreek, Uh, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:47.400 Terry Evans, um, ty Lawson through Holiday Uh, Eric Bayner, Uh, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:52.640 I'm missing one. It's gonna kill me, um, Brandon Jennings. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.440 So like I've worked out with all of them, and 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.160 I was like, I I know, you know, from shooting perspective, 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.600 obviously I got it, but I have a lot to offer, 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.600 and you know I should be at the top of 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:09.280 that PG list. Um. Obviously James went three, Tyrek went four, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.600 and at that point, like, okay, Washington had just traded 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.600 their pick to d C and Starry Washington trade there 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.760 picked to Minnesota, so they have five and six. I'm like, 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.000 it's a good chance, like they're gonna pick me. But 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.200 but if I get past that, New York had already 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.160 made that promise Gold State what ain't on the radar, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.200 but definitely when they took two point guards, just sitting 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.200 in the ground, like all right, that's weird, like what's 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.000 the plan there? And why am I still sitting here? 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.079 But obviously only have about eight minutes to think about 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.240 that and then I was next, So it's just different. Uh. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.360 I always laughed too, because there was like this kind 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.160 this article that came out, but David Conny was the 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.439 GM at the time, and like, obviously it's revisionist history. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.040 Is like my fourth, the fifth year in the league, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.720 it's like, oh, why didn't Minnesota pick me over? You 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.600 know those two guys when they took two point guards? 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.000 And the line was like, oh, he knew how much 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.840 I like golf and Minnesota's two cold, so I wouldn't 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.200 have been happy there as a basketball player, knowing I 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.400 couldn't play golf throughout the year. I said, that's a 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:20.640 that's a that's a certified reach. We should play the 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.760 game that Chuck plays on T n T. Where is 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.320 he not? Because wherever he is now, that's where he belongs. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.680 It's not an n b A. Wherever he is now, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.680 that's exactly where he belongs. But so the whole draft 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.360 process happens, and so far all the listeners out there, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.160 what you have to understand is every guy two things here. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:47.559 Every guy in the league has a guy that destroys 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.720 you every time you play him, and he's not like 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.959 one of those guys. And then I think everyone also 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.240 has like a guy who at some point in your 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.280 career or another, that guy was in front to you 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.280 and you look then you we all look at it 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.040 as like even during that moment, you're looking at it 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.120 like this dude isn't better than like, I'm not sure 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.280 why this guy is playing with me. The world then 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.640 gets to see that as time plays out, like and 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.560 there's one guy that was in front of you, how 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.400 did an incredible college career, not so much NBA career, 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.360 But there was one guy that was in front of 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.880 you that you did not play for in front of 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.360 your rookie year, and you talk to us about who 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.480 that guy is and how that drove you too want 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.760 to destroy him and ultimately probably moved to my the NBA. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.240 What that's a whole another story. You know exactly who 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.040 I'm talking about, who you're talking about. He see Law 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:54.320 I'm about to say law so, but he's like, there's 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.880 a thing between college basketball and the league, like we 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.079 all know, like you said, it's it's just fit. Timing 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.160 is just opportunity, is matchups, that's all that type of stuff. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.880 My second in the league, like a C. Law was, uh, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.800 the point guard was in practice? Is going against him? 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.240 Like he was nice and he had his like such 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.160 a unique game. I can never really figure out. Um. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.560 But I was trying to come into my own as 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.440 a player, and you know, he was getting autaments, he 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.600 was closing out fourth quarters. And I always say, like 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.840 the league is funny just because confidence is everything, opportunities everything, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.679 and what you do when you get that opportunity can 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:37.880 dictate you know, your future. And um, and it's also 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.559 about patients, that's the fact. And that's sometimes hard to 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.160 really go through that process and you don't ever want 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:46.560 to hear when you're right in the middle of it. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.520 But I went through my second year like I was 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.559 getting benched in the fourth quarter, A C Law was 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.760 playing key smart with our coach, and like, honestly, I 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.319 learned a lot, but it was tough build to swallow. Um, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.920 but it also motivated me and drove me. And then 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.880 when I did get that opportunity be like, I am 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.480 that guy that can compete at the highest level in 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.080 this league and close out games, can be a dude 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.880 you can trust in those moments and all that type 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:16.640 of stuff. Uh yeah, A C is definitely the name 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.520 that kind of embodies that moment for good at for worse, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.840 And that's part of the process. Like you said, it's 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.079 not disrespecting him. It's just like that dude that was 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.440 in front of you in terms of your opportunity and um. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.440 And to his credit, he was a great vet in 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.480 terms that he was helping me throughout that process, but 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.600 he knew like I was kind of in my place. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.320 So it's kind of like a little bit of sweet 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.360 only a matter of time. And by the way he 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.400 answered that probably as nice as he can go for 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.960 y'all stuff. So us you know, it's fine, but so 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.360 you go through it also smartly with I'm gonna let 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:55.679 you live and I'm not going to hit you with 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.120 the David conline for not playing stuff. I'm gonna let 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.079 you live because we gotta love up for you. Smart. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.800 We're gonna let you live and we won't hit you 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:10.400 with that. So you didn't go through that, and that's 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.640 your first couple of years. You also dealt with quite 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.000 a few ankle injuries. Walk me through that process and 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.040 and how what I mean. I remember when I first 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:27.040 got here, the narrative was the ankles. Does the Warriors 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.280 offer you an extension? Do they not? I remember my 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.720 first time ever meeting you was you're on the court, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.640 and the entire front office staff, the entire ownership group, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.880 everybody's sitting there watching you do individual workout as if 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.839 he was about to get drafted in a couple of days. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.960 I couldn't believe it, but they're literally debating on this 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.199 workout whether they're going to give you an extension. Not 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.600 walk me through that process of going through the ankle injuries, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.440 having to bounce back from that, not knowing what's next, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.800 if they're going to resign you if not. Just walk 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.840 me through that process. I never play with injuries my 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:06.920 entire basketball career from middle school, high school, college, Like uh, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.240 I had a pretty clean track record on that front. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.480 So even my rookie year. I played seven or eighty 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.360 games in my rookie year and played like a lot 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.080 of men especial last three or four months, and never 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.520 had real nagging injuries, especially my ankles. So when it 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.920 started to happen my second year, like, it's frustrating because 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.840 I mean, obviously in pain, you rehab in and out 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.280 the line up, and then it just kept happening, and 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.360 then it just kept happening, and then it was like, oh, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.360 I don't even have to step on nobody's foot or 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.800 being I could just be changing direction on the court 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.920 and running transition to join the flip. So it was 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.360 scary because I didn't have any control of the situation. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.200 It's it was like I no matter how much I 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.760 prepared my body for like how I knew how to 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.520 prepare my body at the time, nothing was working. But 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.200 I also knew like I was getting better on the 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.120 court when I had an opportunity to play, and all 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.000 I wanted to do was give myself a chance to 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.960 prove myself. And you have to be available and healthy 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.280 to be able to do that. So that last I said. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.560 For two years, like off and on, I had two surgeries, um, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:08.480 extensive rehabs, missed like thirty games during my third year, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:13.720 the lockout year. And to your point, like your future 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.320 is kind of hanging in the balance of your health because, uh, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:21.440 you've got surgeries on your resume. Nobody like that. Uh, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.720 you've got chronic like injuries that aren't really freak accidents. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.720 Is like I could be just doing normal basketball moves 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.640 and my ankle will flip. Then you got the mental 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.200 exhaustion of like just going through that process over and 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:40.480 over and over again. So um, Thankfully, I think I 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.440 was so just focused on getting healthy. I didn't really 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.640 put too much pressure on myself on like what the 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.520 implications of, uh, the injuries really could mean in the 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.160 long term, which I think helped me to stay motivated 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.080 and the real because you know, like anytime you go 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.760 through rehab, the mind, you know, the body sponsor to mind. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.400 If you can't stay positive and you can't stay motivated 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.120 and you start to get in your feelings and all that, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.680 like it's a miss a lonely, miserable feeling. And thankfully, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.080 like I was either young, naive or whatever, I just 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.520 couldn't stay out of I didn't have anything else to 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.400 worry about but just get healthy and let everything kind 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.480 of take care of herself. UM. And you know, thankfully, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.640 after the second surgery, started to get a little bit 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.040 more progress, started learning about my body a lot more. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.840 I started learning what it took to you know, play 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.760 at this level of preparation that you needed to to 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:34.720 to do that. And then UM signed the most favorable 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:40.360 contract in possibly NBA history in terms of everything that 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.640 it allowed us to do. UM, you know those next 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.800 four years. So, uh, it was a blessing and and 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:51.560 uh in disguise if you will, um that uh um forever, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.760 I guess grateful and thankful for well, before we talk 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.280 about the car, because that's definitely something that I would 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:05.480 love to talk about. Rumor has it, I'm not sure 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.080 if if you've ever confirmed this, or if anyone ever 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.199 is confirmed it, but rumor has it that we trade 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.240 the Warriors. That can't say weak because I was not 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.239 here yet, but the Warriors trade for Andrew Bogan, and 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.040 they trade Monte Ellis to the Milwaukee Bucks. Andrew Bogan 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.679 comes back. Rumor has it that the trade initially was 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.560 for you to go to Milwaukee, Um, and Monte Ellis 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.800 to still be here, Bogan coming in the Milwaukee doctors 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:41.439 who probably should be fired. I'm on this whole notion 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.520 of accountability. Everybody want to hold us accountable. I'm holding 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:49.120 everybody accountable. You you did it, Milwaukee doctor. I hope 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.320 he's still not the same doctor there. Um, but Milwaukee 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:57.760 doctors they didn't approve your ankles, said your ankles would 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.720 be no good, and so they stopped the trade. And 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.080 then ultimately mind take is traded. Do you know that 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.320 to be one true? And at that time were you 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.880 expecting to be traded or was when that news finally 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.119 came out? Was that news to you? The doctor part like, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.560 I can't put a name to it, but I know 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.680 that was a part of the conversation because it all 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.040 happened at once. For me, I know exactly where we were. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:25.000 We were in Sacramento. Um, there's a lockout. Years is 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.520 right at to trade theirline. We get to the arena 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.359 and walk in the locker room. First. I was on 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.640 the first bus. Monte usually comes on the second bus. Um. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.679 We were kind of we're outside the playoffs seating, but 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.600 we were trying to make a little push like we 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.680 were like tenth, like maybe four or five six games 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.240 out of it, but we thought we had enough time 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.879 to you know, make a run and get in the 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.960 locker room. It's kind of a different energy, you know, 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.040 around trade their lines always like that, but this was different. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.199 It was like, it's a little quite in here, like 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.480 what's going on. Mark Jackson's a coach of the tom 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.480 uh this first year. Get in the locker room and 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.960 I'm getting tape, getting ready to play in the game. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.040 And you see across the ticker on in the on 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.040 the TV in the locker room like breaking news, NBA 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.080 trade Warriors trade Monte Ellis, f a u Tho and 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.640 somebody else for Andrew Bogan. And that's how we found out. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.240 We were on the locker like you what, what, what 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.439 what's going on? Somante shows up. He just got off 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.119 the phone with his agents. Agent just called him, and 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.560 this is maybe an hour and a half for the game, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.440 two hours for the game, So then you know he's 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.920 kind of like emotional, but you know, kind of resolutely 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.199 like this is happening, like forget y'all, like not not 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.720 not the team, but forget the organization. In terms of 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.280 like he he was the true ultimate warrior, like he 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.520 was a fan favorite deservedly, so we believe the last 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.720 one from the lead. We believe Team I had grown 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.600 into a veteran you know, presidents and leader um in 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.280 that respect. So it's a tough, tough blow for like 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.840 all of the nation and wasn't really see well. So, uh, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.399 that's how it went down. Everybody kind of said that 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.840 goodbyes and left, and then Coach Jackson pulled me out 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.399 at the locker room. He's like, yo, I said, I 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.800 let you know, like they wanted you in the trade, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.000 but for whatever reason, like that's part of the doctor 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.639 that didn't go down like that because I kind of 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.960 stepped into and said, I'm gonna give you the keys. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.199 I felt like, I really believe in you. We just 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:27.960 gotta get you healthy and that's what the rest of 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.440 the season is gonna be about. So you know his line, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:36.400 don't make me a liar, don't make me a liar um. 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.199 And so that that was when it was like the 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.640 trade happened and like, oh, by the way, that could 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.560 have been you type vibe all at the same time. Um, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.320 crazy crazy day. I'll never forget that that moment um 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.600 because it definitely set the tone for what you know 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.440 the next chapter is about to be about. Actually, before 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:59.320 we go into the forty four million dollar deal, UM 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.639 speak on Mark Jackson a little bit. One thing I 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.840 always say two people, and I would love to get 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.199 your perspective. I don't think people like it's just not 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:14.040 something that we talk about UM, but I felt like 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.840 Mark Jackson um coach Jackson to be UM. But I 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:23.199 feel like one thing that he was great at is 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:28.040 he gave like he breathed confidence in guys, Like he's 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:33.200 just spewing confidence in the guys, And I think that 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:37.360 was huge in our growth and and who we eventually became. 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.200 It's the confidence that he gave guys, I know, people 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.560 like I was actually watching earlier today the clip when 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.600 when he said I got the best shooting backcourt history. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.520 He sounds crazy. I thought he was crazy and out 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.159 of his mind. Everybody in the world thought he was 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.560 crazy and out of his mind. But he said, I 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:02.040 got the best shooting backcourt and basket ball history. What 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.960 did what did coach Jackson do for you in your 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.800 career and helping you understand like, no, you are one 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.000 of them, dude, what what was that for you? Because 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.040 I know for me, like he breathed confidence in to 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.520 me and made me felt like I belonged in this lead. 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.879 It's it's the balance of like as a player, like 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.359 people who say they don't hear read anything, they lying 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:30.920 like you hear everything that happen that people like media analysts, coaches, 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.639 other players like it's a small fraternity and group and 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.240 the family and this NBA and then also within these organizations, 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.199 so you hear everything about you and it's just a 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.680 matter of like that awareness mixed with like you said, 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.600 your confidence and who you are, your identity, um and 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.840 then obviously what you go and do out on the floor. 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.480 To have somebody that's a decision maker that's you know 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.399 in that head coaching position that goes out of his 0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:01.840 way to either defend, hype up uh like brethe life 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.640 into like you say to your players, like that meant 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.879 so much, especially as the first time head coach, because 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:09.760 he was going on these you know, on these limbs 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.240 that like I said, some people thought he was like 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.800 out of his mind, you know, you know, just kind 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.680 of just a ride or die with no kind of thought. 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.480 Like he he was very strategic and intentional about everything 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.199 that he said, and that meant so much to as 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.239 young as a young team trying to just find an 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:29.160 edge and find an identity. And it was contagious man, 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:33.560 like you know, he would come into every pregame, locker, pregame, 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.720 uh you know, speech and give us a like like 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.879 a sermon almost and it would be it would just 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:41.879 be like something like you want to run through the 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.439 wall or laugh or feel some type of emotion and 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.600 we go out and hoop um. And he was so 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.560 consistent in that front. So at that time in our 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.879 in my career and our career as a team and 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.639 in the journey that we were trying to you know, 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.760 come into, he was perfect for that because he was 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:03.639 an extreme motivator, uh you know, an ultimate defender. He 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.960 would hype you up and he's pretty confidence in you. 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.520 And that's how we went out and played um. And 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.639 I think to his his credit sometimes you can think 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.080 about how everything ended after that third year. He almost 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.920 would use different motivations that weren't even real, like you 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.080 kind of have to manifest something that almost like the 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.399 Kobe mentality or like MJ back in the day, like 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.560 I might make something up in terms of there's you know, 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.800 some enemy that doesn't even exist, but I'm gonna make 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:35.960 sure everybody's on the same page against whatever that is. Um, 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:37.959 this is how he rolled, and it was it was. 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:39.679 It was great for us in terms of, you know, 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.080 giving us that edge. Has it been shocking for you 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.480 that he hasn't been able to I understand the drama 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.760 around when he left because it was the front office 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:51.840 coach disagreement. And he would probably admit that there are 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.840 a couple of interviews he did right after he left 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.320 that he probably didn't need to do. He spoke his 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.560 mind and he spoke his truth, but he probably you know, 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.919 I don't say regret, but you think about like, you know, 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.640 doing a different way on the back end. But when 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.439 you talk about like somebody that knows the game, somebody 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.840 knows how to relate to players, somebody that as an 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.920 ultimate competitor and play at the highest level. UH, play 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.919 with amazing great play for some great coaches and with 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.480 other amazing you know players throughout his career. Like all 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.320 that wrapped into one person and just his vantage points 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.960 an analysts and all that. Like, I'm extremely surprised. I 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.000 know his name floats up a lot. He definitely he 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:37.800 deserves another opportunity. Whoever want to take our opinion, Uh, 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.680 definitely surprised, and hopefully it won't I won't remain too long, 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.560 I think when when I'm when I'm looking around the NBA, 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.800 I hope he gets an opportunity that he does not 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.399 have to build a team the way he had to 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:59.159 build up. But but the reality is there's ten to 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.600 fifteen team is a year in that same position that 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.520 I that he's proven right here that he can handle 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.160 that job for sure. Now, if you want to say, oh, well, 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.399 he hadn't coached superstars, because when he coached es, you 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.280 weren't a superstar yet, Clay wasn't a superstar, you know, 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.920 like we none of us had grown into who who 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.000 we became. So if you want to say, all right, 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.719 well he hasn't proven any coach superstars, well, what he 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.480 has proven is at least that he can do that. 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:32.320 And so that that part has been a bit shocking 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.119 to me, I must say, um, and I hope to 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.000 see you know, his obviously his name in the name 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.240 just came up in the Lakers job. And I hope 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.159 to see him get an opportunity because I think he 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:46.520 did an incredible job. Everyone has their differences. I don't 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.639 think any head coach or general manager or ownership group 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.879 is on the on the same page at all times. 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.440 I don't believe that. And after being in this league 0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:01.080 for ten years, I can almost say that's for certain. 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.439 I mean, and if you have one that's always on 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.640 page at the same time I'm always on the same page, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.960 then they're an outline their unicorn, because it just doesn't happen. 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:16.119 This is a very um like it's a dynamic situation. 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.280 I mean, the things changed so fascinous leg and the 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.159 fact that we can you're always are gonna have to 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.600 recalibrate and reassess and and like you said, find some 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.320 middle ground even almost because there are something you know, 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.600 especially when you have a lot of cooks in the kitchen, 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.240 like I mean, what the leggers are going through and 0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:38.320 what's coming out now. I it's crazy, just evolutions and 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.439 all this stuff, and it's is what we do and 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.159 what everybody is. Not easy, no, for for sure. And 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.359 I think, like you said some interviews that the baby 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.960 want to take back now. But I also think he 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.840 caught uh some things that came his way. That we're 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:59.320 a little unfair and Hare's one up steph Curry ruined 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:03.960 the game about football when he said that everybody was 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.200 on there. It's like, Wow, did he really come out 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.040 and go as stuff like better he better? He got fired? 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.680 Now he coming out. Absolutely, you look at the game 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:17.160 of basketball today, I understand exactly what he was talking about. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.399 You watching the elementary school play, you watch the NBA, 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.840 I know exactly what he was talking about. But at 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.040 that time I think that also fueled the narrative of 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.240 him being better. Right if few of the narrative, Oh man, 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.640 it wasn't all working there and look now he's shooting 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.160 that step And it was actually more of a compliment 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.359 than anything he said. To let the dust set on 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.440 and figure out exactly what the context that he had 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.840 been in gyms with with his sons. They were hoop 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.719 and he was watching middle school games every week and 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.400 he's like, yo, what is literally watching this dude and 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.320 thinking they can skip a bunch of steps and be 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.800 like him. So it's hard to get that in on 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.280 the broadcast especially. That was one of the worst things 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.600 that next year when he got after he got let 0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.640 go and coach curves and we're on a run. They 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:07.760 put like every game, sure, every game he was on. 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:14.720 I mean, that's another story that no, it's not. Y'all 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.960 are really making him look like like he can't he 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.200 can't even speak the way you want to speak. Four instance, 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.160 and Steph Curry ruined the game in basketball, and everybody's 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.000 just polling on everything he said the moment he criticized 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.720 anything the Warriors is doing. Like any analysts, that's they're 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.840 they're gonna go at both teams. That's what you do 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.840 as an analyst. You're going to pick the game apart. 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.520 And he'd say something about us, and it's I mean, 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.280 it's it's the it's the headline of the game. And 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.400 so I think that was that was rough. But you know, 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.560 and getting back to the to the forty four million 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.240 dollar deal. You signed the four forty four and I 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.960 think what most people don't understand is it's at that 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:54.080 time that was the going rate you signed that deal to. 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.720 Lawson signed that deal, and give or take two three 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.480 four million dollars each way the market. Rosen signed the 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.560 same deal, Drew Holiday signed the same deal. I think 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.840 I should, I think, I said Ty Lawson already Brandon 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.640 Jenny signed the same like everyone was kind of signing 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:16.240 that same deal. Now a year later, it was the 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.360 worst deal in pro sports history. One year later it 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.680 was the absolute worst deal and professional sports on your 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:29.160 behalf on the Warrior's behalf the best deal. But how 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:33.600 did you go through that knowing you're making eleven million 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.440 dollars a year you probably should be, you should be 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.239 making twenty five million dollars a year. But in the 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.320 same token, if you don't sign a forty four million 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.520 dollar deal, Um, the Warriors have to decide on whether 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.640 they're going to keep me your clay. Um, the Warriors 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:53.120 are never able to sign andre Um and then, in 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:57.440 hindsight fast forward a couple more years later, also not 0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.680 able to sign Katie as well. So how were you 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.080 a well to go through that and see the bigger picture? 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.800 You know, I'm gonna ultimately make my money, But right now, 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.560 I mean there was a time where I think, yeah, 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.200 there was a time where I was making more money 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.160 than you on it like you were the fil for 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.760 six highest paid player on our team. It's it's all intentional. 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.360 There's it sounds so freaking cheesy and cliche because I'm 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.880 talking about it right now, but like this is exactly 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.760 how I thought, and it's like I talked to my 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.960 wife about it. Right before I signed. I was flying 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:32.680 in the Phoenix the day before opening opening night, which 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.360 by the way, is probably one of the worst games. 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.080 Signed after Signory too, We're on the road to open 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:44.480 up in Phoenix and uh at Tom Larry Riley h 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.120 Bob was there, um my agent, and they're like, I'm 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.920 trying to figure out come into a deal, and like 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.960 it was that one thing I had to just tell myself, 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.080 like one, let's let's look, let's keep perspective here, like 0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.720 forty four million dollars or four years more money in 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.920 my pops ever made in the league, because I've been 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.040 around and leave for sixteen years watching my dad play, 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.040 Like I know how league, that how far the league 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.880 has grown grown from when he played, and like that's 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.680 good money, support my family and got a lot of security. 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.440 I just want to be healthy. Like let's just focus 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.720 on that, not what you're leaving on the table, what 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.160 you could have made, and then don't count anybody else's money. 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:23.840 Like at the end of the day when you sign, 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.920 like that's your decision. You're gonna rock with it you 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:30.280 hopefully have a lot more years to play this game. Um, 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.080 And I tried to set that foundation from my mindset 0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.680 right then and there and never like negotiate with myself afterwards, 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.400 never like second guests, never come back to that moment 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.920 like oh I should have could have would it? Because 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.240 that's not how life works. So I had to be 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.800 really intentional about it. I hate like that's it sounds 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.840 so simple and and fairy tale because it did work out. 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.520 But I do give myself credit that that was the 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.760 perspective that I made sure I had and didn't want 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.240 to let anything distract me from what you know could 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.520 have been or what I left the table with other 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.640 situation that could have been out there. And thankfully, you know, 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.720 like you said, you listed a five things that were 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.200 kind of consequences of that, and I was still taking 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.480 care of I was still good, So that meant a 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:21.760 lot in that moment. Did signing the forty four million 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.920 dollar deal. What's like you said, it's a lot of money, 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.320 But then ultimately you realize, like, I'm not even making 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.800 half of what I should. Did that play any role 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.600 until you ultimately leaving Nike and saying I'm gonna go 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.600 sign with armor. That is a great question, and yes, 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.840 that's actually fantastic. Nobody has ever really put that two 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:47.480 and two together. It was an opportunity two. I guess 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.320 there's always that that that theme in the league when 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.240 somebody's coming up with a contract extension or free agency 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.040 or whatever, like you'll do you bet on yourself? Like 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.480 what does that you had on yourself? What does that mean? Right? 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.680 Everybody's you know, like a Newlands and the Well type situation. 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:07.040 You know, you have somebody like DeAndre Eton right now, 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.160 you've got guys that had good money on the table. 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.920 How it works out, We'll see, right with that piece, 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.360 like knowing I had, you know, four years on the 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.600 court and got to survey the free shoe free agency 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.680 situation and just see where I was at on that 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.440 side of the UH and that part of my career 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:31.200 like building something from scratch, taking a chance to UM 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:36.360 put my fingerprint on a brand UM from from the 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.560 ground up, and and and and have a company that 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.200 was going to kind of invest behind me. That was 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.600 a huge opportunity and it was kind of going against 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.000 the grain a little bit in terms of at that 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:51.000 time the stable that the Nike had Uh. You know, 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:52.960 everybody can talk about all they do with the best 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.480 and that's now that's you know, you know, a matter 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.239 of opinion. But the fact that I got to go 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.040 and you know, getting the signature shoe, game, build a brand, 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.399 build inspiring storytell around things that are important to me, 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.879 Like we're now eight what nine years you know from that, 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.640 and I got this freaking logo on my hat and 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.640 we have hopefully is something that will continue to be 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.120 part of the legacy for years and years and years 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.760 and years to come. That was me better than myself, um, 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.360 and it was it was a fun It's been a 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.880 fun process from day one. And uh, I don't know 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.759 if I'd have made that decision had you know, things 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.840 gone differitely um with the contracts though, And speaking of 0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:44.319 decisions that you've made, Um, you you win unanimous m VP, 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.759 which hadn't been done in the history. You didn't take 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.080 that unanimous and you spent off and you start an 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.759 entire couple of different sectors of business that you go 0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.839 into under the under the name unanimous. One is your 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.600 production company. Another started to fund Um talk to talk 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.880 to me about building that production company because it's actually 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.960 it's actually a phase that I'm in right now, UM, 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.920 in my life and you know, just not necessarily building 0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:20.360 a production company, but you know the podcast, um t 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:25.320 NT deal, um pone phone sessions and so and moving 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.600 into that direction. How has that been for you? Because 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.919 the time that it takes doing all of this stuff. 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.720 Rous you ain't warm me about this all the time 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.040 that it takes in building this, But how has that gone? 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.319 Um y'all signed the first Look deal with Sony UM, 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.600 how has that gone on that side for you? The 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.880 things that you've learned and how that transition into that 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.360 side of the business, It's been. It's been a whirlwind. 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.200 And you just said, like it's it's about making sure 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.120 you can prioritize, like what keeps lights on what makes 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.000 all this as possible obviously as basketball and I don't 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.880 know what kind of feedback you've gotten, but that that 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.120 has never ever changed, like whatever you see as doing 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.680 outside of court, Like we know how to make sure 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.959 we keep balance. And it's not not saying it's easy, 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.080 but you always uh prioritize and make sure one you 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.200 know who you're doing with and your people in your team, 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.359 because that's the most important piece. Sometimes you get that right. 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.720 Sometimes you get that wrong. The quicker you can realize 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.640 when you get it wrong and and uh and make 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.279 the necessary changes. That's important. And that's a hard thing 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:35.600 to do in our position too, because you do um, 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.520 you know, I gotta a delegate and make sure people 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.440 are positioned for success. But at the end of the day, 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.040 it all comes back to you. And some people like 0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.920 that responsibility. Some people don't. But I found that it's 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.480 been amazing to try stuff Like it's been amazing to 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.879 just experiment, you know, you know, try your skill set 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.719 at different things, get into uh, you know, projects that 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.799 move you, uh, like you talk about with my media 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.240 company with Unanimous like we found pillars within faith, family, 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.560 and sports that we want to continue to tell amazing 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:10.160 stories to a bunch of different mediums. Um. But making 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.600 sure that it is authentic to to who I am, 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.920 my personality, things that are important to me, um, and 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.759 then allowing my team to push me a little bit 0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.000 into different areas that I didn't even know where possibilities 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:25.239 and so um that's gonna be a long journey that 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.480 will continue to uh, you know, to assess our goals 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.560 and and measure of how we're doing and keep building 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.880 and scaling up. But um, I think it obviously it 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.200 comes down to the team. That's something that is a 0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.120 comparison to basketball and off the court that are so important. 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.400 Who you who you rock with, and who you do 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.319 that business with and who you trust too to be 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:50.600 a part of that fold is the key to everything. Um. 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.160 And this has allowed me to you know, create some 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.160 amazing relationships. It's amazing opportunities, set some amazing you know, 0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.920 amazingly talented people up for success and uh uh and 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.759 do it with things that are you know, authentic to 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.040 me speaking of authentic to you and setting people up 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:10.040 for success. Um. You have Holy Moli, which is very 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:11.960 authentic to you for those that don't know it, to 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:18.600 golf and golf and checked all the stuff um that 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.160 I know. I've had the honor of going on once, 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.520 which was great. But I think one thing that that 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.719 that you've done that I really enjoy to keep tapped on, 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.839 um because I feel like I would have been there 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.239 I hadn't been around when I was coming up. Is 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:40.280 that your underrated tour, um, and how you essentially channeled 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.640 who you were or I mean you're not yeah who 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.239 you were because you're not underrated anymore, but who you 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:50.920 were coming up and said, Okay, just like me, there's 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.400 a million other kids outside that doesn't get those looks, 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.040 that doesn't get to go to the good camps. And 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.440 if they go to a camp, they get a reversible 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.560 UM jersey that says a number on it, and then 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.319 they go home. It's not it's not a good thing. 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.600 They don't look good. They don't they're not treated well. 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:10.920 It's just like, oh, we're giving you an opportunity to 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:14.200 go play basketball. You've changed that narrative and you've put 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.600 together essentially an All American camp for underrated kids. Can 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.520 you talk to me um more about the Underrated Camp? 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.120 And also like, is there anything else that's going to 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.800 come with the Underrated Camp? Like are y'all gonna continue 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.840 to grow that? What's the plans with like us? It 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:33.840 was an amazing set up because that's exactly what the 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.960 goal of the Underrated Tour was. At a jump, I 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.480 started my under arm All American Camp. So he's inviting 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.839 the top thirty high school guys to the first two 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.960 and then we got they spand uh to the most 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.479 talented girls in high school sports and like the fourth 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.200 year I was sitting on one of our little sessions 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:56.080 and I was looking around, mind you like, I don't 0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.440 know what these high school dudes are eating these days, 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:02.160 that they all like six m to twenty m. Like, first, 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.719 I'm probably the smallest one in here. Two damn sure. 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.360 You know I wouldn't have been invited to this camp. 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.200 What everybody to my own camp? So I thought, like, 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.280 this is an amazing experience to give them a piece 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.960 of uh, my skill set and my understanding of basketball 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.520 and hopefully pass something back down to them. But what 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.240 about the three star recruit that was to star recruit 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.279 for a while, like three star recruit that I was 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.000 in high school, that, like you said, looking for an opportunity, 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.279 looking to get on a platform to um, you know, 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.960 showcase who they are and their abilities. Um and obviously 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:39.760 in the pursuit of a college scholarship. So we started 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.120 Underrated Tour. Rackington has been and he was part of it. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.600 They propped it up year one and we've gone to 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.520 four different reasons around the country. Um, it's it's free. 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.160 It's an open invite to three star uh, you know, 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.120 recruits who a lot of game of basketball. I want 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.120 to come out and work hard and compete. And but 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.479 we're giving them the opportunity and and like you said, 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.640 the first class experience, like it's not just you know, 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.520 let's just bring it to a gym and roll the 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.520 balls out like trying to put them in the right gear, 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.640 make them look look fresh. UM, give them more of 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.920 an understanding of what it takes to be a college 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.560 athlete in terms of you know, you know, being eligible 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:21.880 academically different uh classes and understands for their parents to 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.320 know what recruiting is like how to go through that process. 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:30.600 And then obviously the on court uh your skills and 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.279 uh and it ectertise that I can provide through the 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.000 programming that we do. So take four reasons. We take 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.080 the top you know, uh talent from each region. We 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.680 bring them out to the national Championship stop out here 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.040 in the base. They get to come out here. We 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.839 just had a couple of weeks ago. UM, we had 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.920 a tournament, so each region plays against each other and 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.080 then we have a champion and and we have the 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.120 most underrated girl and boy in the country, and we 0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.480 celebrate that. We help them tell their stories, um, in 0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.200 terms of where they are, where they're trying to go 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.319 and how they're gonna get there, um. And so it's 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.680 been an amazing successful far. We're in year three, going 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.560 to continue to expand that out um and continue to 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.040 reach as many kids as possible, and hopefully we've created 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:17.359 over thirty scholarships through this through this, uh this tour 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.719 in basketball on the boys and girls side. So it's 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.719 pretty it's amazing to like point, this is something that 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.360 exists in a bunch of different youth sports um And 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.600 obviously for me, basketball and golf for the first two 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.680 that I wanted to touch and so uh soon this 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.799 summer will be the first underrated golf tour UM. And 0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.759 the cool part about it is, like golf is such 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.240 a we called an elitist kind of history and sport, 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:47.520 but there's an understanding of opportunity that the game can provide, 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.920 not just as in pursuit of playing professionally and making money, 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:52.800 but the world of golf and the business of golf 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.560 and even just the different connections and indoors that golf opens. 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.440 We need more representation, we need more equity, access and 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.360 opportunity to the game, and so golf is the vehicle 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.200 to reach these kids and hopefully we have some p 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.319 J professionals and that's the that's the goal to get 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.080 more representation on all these different you know, professional tours. 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:17.000 But golf will also be the vehicle to give these 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:22.960 kids an understanding of skill development, business acumen, UM, an 0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.160 understanding of whatever passion that you have in this world, 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.759 like it's possible for you to get into these uh, 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.760 into these right industries and and and do it where 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.160 you're you're prepared and equipped to become you know, our 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:39.960 future leader. And that's the goal. So uh coming soon. 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.400 It's can be a lot more ware we talked about 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.839 with that tour. But to be able to have that 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.200 uh impact on these kids who basketball and golf UM 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.520 and special to me because there that's what I love. 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.960 That's amazing. UM excuse my ignorance, but how in the 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.760 hell do you find a three star golf? So pretty 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.000 much anybody who's the a minority and golf, you're already 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.960 three stars in general, because there's so many different barriers 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:10.880 to UM pursuing golf at the highest level. But the 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.839 three star in golf is more the equity in terms 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:15.759 of reaching the same amount of boys as girls that 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.000 we do UM and each of the different tour stops 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.800 that we have the the access in terms of breaking 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.880 down those barriers, whether it's costs related, whether it's transportation related, 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:30.040 whether it's equipment related, uh, coaching like all of those 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.280 things that are in part of you know, skill development 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:36.600 within golf. And then the opportunity is like again using 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:40.120 golf as the vehicle to introduce these kids too future 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.920 you know success um in a lot of different areas. 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.879 So that's where the three stars are in golf. UM. 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.120 But like I said, getting representation within the game across 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.759 the board, that's that's first and foremost. And moving back 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.840 to basketball, I know everyone's going to be watching this. 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.720 How are you feeling? How's your health? Um? I'll probably 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:07.080 get food and access question how is your health? Like? UM, 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.399 are you expecting to be ready for Game one? Are 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.600 you not expecting to be ready for game I also 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.280 need to know this for my personal sanity as well. 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.920 So how are you feeling as far as you know 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.200 being ready to play this weekend? The goal has always 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:25.160 been game one? UM. And this is a weird injury 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:29.399 because it's such a slow healing. Like you know, I've 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.520 had a bunch of different injuries over time, But like 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:35.440 sometimes like every day you feel like dramatically better and 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.879 you you you like, oh, I got a little pepper 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:39.400 my step. I can keep I can do this. I 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.479 can do this. This one. I feel like I felt 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.480 like the same for two weeks, but I could do 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.440 a little bit more and a little bit more. But 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.719 it's all like just dealing with the pain that comes 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.440 with you know, the injury that I had in my 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.640 foot so and you know the uh, the wear and 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.200 tear that comes with with an injury like that. But 0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.080 the goal has always been game one. The goal still 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.200 remains game one. Very optimistic that it will be a 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.120 game one and uh whatever that means. Like I said, 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.680 I just want to be available. And we know what 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.000 time of year it is. We we ain't been in 0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.520 the playoffs for two years. It is kind of weird 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:15.880 to think about that. I'm so freaking juice because I 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.640 know how much I love that environment. The first time 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.680 in this building, which would be interesting, So I don't 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.440 want to miss none of it. So that's the goal, um, 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.359 and I would it would be hard pressed, you know, 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.480 for anything to kind of keep me out of that. 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.040 But we'll see. It's definitely exciting. I mean, you haven't 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.359 if you weren't with the team on this last trip. 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.640 But I've probably cussed off seven people just leading up 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.040 to this. Man, I'm just aunty and excited. I think. 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.320 I mean, obviously for me, what was his first seven 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.960 years of my career? Yeah, the first seven years and 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.240 not making a playoffs and then spent two years outside 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:55.279 of the playoffs, Like what the hell? Like? Yeah, yeah, 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:59.200 welcome to my world. For the first three years was 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.000 the reason for you made the playoffs? Because y'all you 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:05.760 and clay Man. Yeah, it's first two years. I already 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.520 had the car on on the back of the truck 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.399 headed back to North Carolina. I had a tea time, 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.000 I had my sevent teams this vacation. I had my 0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.280 car on the truck two years ago in two thousand 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:23.200 and twenty, ready to go everywhere. And then I mean, 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.600 the one off season I do all right, we missed 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.200 the playoffs, which I was not happy about. Then the 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:32.120 one off season I do get. And then the next 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.400 off season I get. The NBA season even though we 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:38.520 don't make it, it runs into July. We made the playoffs, 0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.959 playing to June twenties. They made the playoffs. Man stuck 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.839 at home or had a month to go do his 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:45.400 thing and get it, get your mind right back and 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.640 then turn right back around like and I mean, for me, 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.400 we finished in twenty if I had to be in 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:57.600 Vegas July fourth, US which then spanned from July four 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:05.840 to August eight, training camp start miss September. You just 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.200 can't get away from the games, at least some of 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:13.759 the playoffs. This time I take out. But speaking of playoffs, 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:16.880 Lakers had a rough year. Um, as we all go, 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:22.600 I was surprised there. But Lebron says the other day, 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:28.560 last week or something whenever, it was, that he has 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:33.360 one guy in the NBA right now that a current 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:37.040 NBA player that he wants to play with. That player 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.960 happens to be you. Um, and I know I saw 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.239 the other day where you said you laughed about it 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.000 and he was like, I'm good, but like take me 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:53.080 deeper into that number one when you're you're on that level. 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:56.879 But like Lebron is up there in the goat conversation, 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.560 so for him to like for him to come out 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:01.600 and say it like no, I want to play with 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.959 Steph Kurt regardless of how the world may feel about 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.799 that or how anyone may feel in my appear that 0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.719 is like, that's that's one. Number one, that's one of 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.200 the ultimate signs of respect. That has to feel good. 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.120 But then number two like, don't give me the laugh, 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.520 I'm good, Like take me deeper into what you were 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.799 really thinking when you first heard that. But so what 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.399 you just said is definitely uh. And like we talked 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.719 about all the time with with Brian, especially knowing our 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.920 history and the finals runs and all that and playing 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:37.160 against him, there is no denying like his greatness in 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.520 terms of what he can do on the court, and 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.799 like sometimes you're even when you're playing against him, you're 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.840 in awe because it's like the way he can control 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:47.840 the tempo of the game, the way he can dominate scoring, passing, 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.279 you know, just just overall just presence is i Q Like, 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:52.920 oh that stuff that we all talked about it. And 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.520 then you have to appreciate your competition if you want 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.640 to beat him, because there's got to be that you know, 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.960 let's coach, we call it the appropriate fears. But like 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.799 you said, in terms of like him picking out one 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.800 player that he was one beside the son that he 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.680 wanted to play with, and my name comes up. It 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:16.640 is definitely it's surreal because I I would never be 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.719 so far removed from this time. Like I was in 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.440 Detroit playing in the sweet sixth team game and this 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:23.879 dude was maybe his fourth or fifth year in the league, 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:28.520 and he's coming to my game, like supporting and cheering 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.440 and doing all stuff, even at the place he was 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.520 at in his career as uh, you know, the future 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.160 superstar and like he said, hall of Famer, potentially greatest 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.080 of all time. Like the fact that we're thirteen years 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.000 removed and he's saying that, it's still crazy. I had 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.440 only how people knew this. He gave me a jersey 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.160 when I was in high school. I was in college Davidson, 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:49.480 and I still have it on the wall and my parents. 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.359 I was back in Charlotte and he wrote it like 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.279 to the King of Basketball and uh in North Carolina 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.600 uh and signed and all that. So like I would 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:00.399 never be too far removed from like where I came 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:04.439 from in terms of this this journey. Uh. So that's dope, 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.759 And that's that's that's the surreal part. The other quick 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.880 part is like, Okay, if you take a fantasy draft 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.360 and you're like building a team out and you got 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.360 what bron can do and the way I can shoot 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.640 the ball, Like obviously there's like a curiosity like what 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:21.280 would that look like? But also there's a realist realism 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.040 of like that's why I said I'm good right now. 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.880 It's just you can never let your mind go from 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.680 what you know. Is is your situation with is uh 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.160 your moment, your time? And who I've been rocking with 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.279 from from day one. So that's my best that's my 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.759 best answer it because it's it's fantasy is wild, but 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:42.440 there's a respect and appreciation. There's a surrealness because of 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.520 where I came from and how we first interacted back 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.320 when I was in college. Um, but if this is 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:55.399 two K, that'd be pretty lethal. I appreciate that answer though, 0:52:55.440 --> 0:53:00.560 because the reality is one thing that pitches y'all um 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:05.960 in this entire realm of NBA players, of which is, 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:11.520 let's face it dominated by African America. It's how they 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.000 tried to pick us against each other. You know, it's 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.880 like everything him against him compared like how is he 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.040 compared to this guy? They just did that to Uh. 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.840 That's I was walking up here and somebody I was 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.880 on TV and one of the talking head shows, and 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:32.879 it was just like who has more pressure, Kyrie or Katie? What? 0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.279 Right now they walk into last minutes on TV, Like 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:40.000 we talked about that before the playing game even started. 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.799 I think it's ridiculous how they try to like and 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.520 so when Lebron comes out and say like I want 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:50.000 to play with Steph Curry, and the reality is all 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.799 the talking heads and all of these people they they 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.560 want to try to find a way to make that controversy. 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:01.359 And that's that's not a contra versual statement at all. 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.799 That is saying I admire someone with my knowledge of 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:09.400 the game, because Lebron has some of the highest knowledge 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.239 when it comes to basketball. With my knowledge of the 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.960 game and me understand what wins in this league, I 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.080 want to play with him because if I can take 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.759 my skills set and partner my skills set with this 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.520 guy's skill set, I think it will be unstoppable. But 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.280 it goes way further than that when when it comes 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.520 to us. You know, it doesn't go way further than 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.640 that when when when you're dealing in all other realms 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.040 of business, but when it comes to us, it goes 0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:44.040 way further than No. Actually, from a basketball standpoint, that 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.120 makes all the sense in the world. He would almost 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.920 be dumb not to say it in your mind if 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:52.560 you gave him a clear, clean slates like like number 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.080 one pick in the NBA draft fantasy whatever, Like, yeah, 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.680 you said what you bring to the table. Who would 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:05.520 compliment that? Mmm? Hello, Right makes a great point though, 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.319 So I mean, and I've kind of been going on 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:13.000 this thing lately, like just the disrespect amongst us and 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:16.480 how like I actually spoke about it. Uh. Actually I 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.600 need to get your thoughts on this too before you 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:22.759 have out. People always compare errors to right and they 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:26.160 always say we're more buddy, buddy, then there is a 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.640 past because they ain't no fights on the court, like 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:32.440 we all work out with each other. You got business 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:36.239 crossover friendships like all that stuff off the court, and 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.160 they always something like that, that's ruining the game. No 0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:43.640 pun intendis sorry, Mark, Uh, that's ruining the competition on 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.480 the court in terms like we all have you know 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:50.200 these backgrounds outside of that, do you do you abscribe 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:53.960 to that? Like this like our era is less competitive 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:56.520 because we're friend more friendly. I think we're just way 0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.319 smarter than the errors before us. Um, if you look 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:03.080 at that from month the way the game is like, 0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.520 if you look at the past Arab basketball, they was 0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.160 beating each other like there all right, don't get me wrong, 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.800 guys were skilled and all due respect to the guys 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:15.160 that came before, but they were out there literally outside 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.719 of fighting, like playing the game of basketball. They were 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.399 beating each other. There wasn't like much skill to that. 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:23.799 There were guys that were skilled. But if you look 0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:26.720 around the NBA now, there's no one in the NBA 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.840 that can't the three point shot. Now, whether they shoot 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.080 a bunch of them, but there's no one in the 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.759 NBA today that can't hit the three point shot. When 0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:37.440 you look at the level of the skill that we 0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.719 have today, it's totally different from from the league when 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.120 it was, or from what the league used to be. 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:48.680 But I also say, you know, we're smarter than them. 0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.600 We like you look at all the things we're doing 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:54.840 from a business perspective off the court, saying none of 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:59.600 them didn't do business, but way more now actually taking 0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.160 advantags been doing these things. My question to you, um, 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:07.480 I made a statement about three weeks ago that if 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:15.680 Lebron is breaking the scoring record next year to the game, 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:22.840 I'm going to see Lebron break scoring. Now I want 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.520 to ask you as a teammate, and I have not 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:29.840 asked left this at all. We again, we have not 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.960 discussed it at all, so y'all can get the same 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:35.520 answer I get. I actually didn't think anything of it. 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.400 I didn't think anything of it until We're in Memphis 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.960 last week on the day of that game, and Bob 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:43.840 called me earlier in the day and we're just talking 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:47.960 and he's like, hey, so help me understand when you 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.920 say something like that, or when you say that in particular, right, 0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.360 do you just not care what people think? Do you 0:57:55.440 --> 0:58:00.280 not care what your teammates think? Like um? And he 0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.160 like laid out all these other things that it possibly 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:09.120 could be. And I said, Bob, I'm sorry, but if 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.680 people in the world are dumb enough to believe that 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:15.400 I'm going to miss my job to go watch someone 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.120 else do there and feed their family, and this is 0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.200 how I feed my family, which means if I missed 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.160 my job to go watch them, fetus found, I could 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:28.360 possibly lose how I feed mine. If someone's that dumb 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.200 vibe to think, wow, he's actually gonna miss his game. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.600 If someone's that dumb, that's not my fault, Like that's 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.120 not my problem. I want to know what you think 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.840 when you when you see me make that stake of one. 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:43.120 I knew if that situation happened next year, there's no 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.440 way in hell you would walk to me, Clay and 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:48.280 Andre coach Kerr and be like, yo, I'm doing this 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.240 so as that's why I ain't. I didn't hit you 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:53.480 about it. I knew there was. It was a way 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.600 of expressing how amazing that accomplishment and feed was in 0:58:56.640 --> 0:59:01.960 your respect for Brian. Two. I understand one piece of 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.480 what Bob is saying in terms of if it's somebody 0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:07.560 within your family that might be in your family is 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:10.160 all different contexts, and the family of our teams, somebody 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:14.040 is gonna be They're gonna have to directly answer to 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:17.040 that for whatever reason, Like there's a certain level of 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.880 respect of hey, you know what I meant by that 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:21.800 or whatever, like no we can that could be a 0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:25.040 quick conversation. Cool, but it's also an unfortunate piece of 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.800 lumping it into every other sound bite that comes on 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.040 it right now, like which be the polarized and we 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:36.280 all know who you are, and like that piece I 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.000 know that will never change because that's who you are. 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.880 But it's also like, if if there was ever it's 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.320 it highlights if there's ever any little insecurity or a 0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:47.760 question of where your loyalty lies, which okay, if if 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:49.280 you're going at that point, then you got to hold 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:54.160 another conversation to have. UM, and if like, cool, we're 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.200 gonna have that conversation. But that's the one thing I get, 0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.400 is like, if it's somebody within your family that you know, 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.360 and whatever you say, even if you still mean what 1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:04.480 you say, and you're not gonna step off of it, 1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.200 and you kind of I don't regret how it came out. 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:09.000 If they're I have to answer to it, Yeah, you 1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:11.920 have to take another step to you know, say you're 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:14.160 a part. But I didn't hit you because I knew 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.400 there's no way. In Hill game sixty seven. Next year, 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:21.880 Brian is twenty seven points away. It might be two 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:28.000 games because he might shoot the pull a Dennis robbing 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:33.880 right quick. I'm gonna see y'all. That's that's good to know. Man. 1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:36.840 A couple more questions up before I let you go. 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:41.560 A couple more basketball questions, um, and then I also 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:45.520 want to ask you a couple questions. Well, that's that's 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:48.480 important to me, expect as a father, as a husband. 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:52.360 I wanted them guys that I've looked at since I 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.560 came into this league and how you handle yourself. So 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:59.680 we'll get to that, But a couple more basketball questions. Um, 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.720 So coming into this season, you know, we come in 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:05.720 and it's kind of like this mix of old guys, 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:09.880 if you will, and young guys. And and I made 1:01:09.880 --> 1:01:11.960 a I made a comment earlier in the year, and 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:15.560 I said, we've never seen this work. Um where you're 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.439 trying to mix the past. We're not the past, because 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:23.360 we're still do all in our prompt but past success, 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:26.880 the group that you've had success with, and future of 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.560 who you think you can have successful and trying to 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:33.360 combine those two. We historically we had never seen that work. 1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:37.120 And I said that in the press conference. Now what 1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:39.680 takes the cake is me saying historically we've never seen 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:42.560 that work. But no one doesn't acknowledge is the part 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:45.040 of me saying that's the challenge for us as leaders 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:47.480 of this team. That's the challenge for us. That's the 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:50.440 challenge that you embrace, and you want to be the 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:52.560 group that can make that work. No One talks about 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:56.400 that work. They only talked about the first part. But um, 1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:59.880 and now we've played eight two games and you've seen 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:05.439 how it all come together. Um, what are your thoughts on, uh, 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:09.720 this current team and what needs to happen for this team? 1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:12.640 Obviously we know health, Um, you know we gotta stay healthy. 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:15.520 I've been out played, missed the first half the season. 1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:19.160 I missed essentially half of the season right in the middle, 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:21.880 and then you've missed the last few weeks. So obviously help. 1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:25.000 But what has to happen as far as like our 1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.960 young guys coming along, who do you think is going 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:30.240 to be that X factor? What has to happen for 1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:32.720 us to ultimately do what we set out to do? 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.680 And that's when the championship. I mean, this year has 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:39.400 been it's been interesting, is we we laughed about a 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:42.840 little bit like nobody expected us to start off the 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:45.479 season the way we do because of the questions coming 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:51.960 into the year about the two different timelines, UM, not 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:55.080 knowing what you know? Otto and Belly is vetminimum guys 1:02:55.120 --> 1:02:58.080 and Andre is you know, you know where he was 1:02:58.120 --> 1:03:00.600 in his career, Like what how they with mesh with 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.360 us and all that? You know, essentially the team that 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:05.880 started off hot, and the way we started off this 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:10.640 season was off the the way we ended last year, 1:03:10.880 --> 1:03:12.800 you know, mixed with a little bit more veteran presence 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:16.760 and two young guys that um have so much potential 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:20.400 but don't have a defined role or a consistent opportunity. 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:22.680 So we've gone through all of that, and like you said, 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:25.600 injuries and Clay coming back and you know, JP is 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:28.480 ascension and all that. So what it needs to happen 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:31.840 is health, like you said, but we keep doing. We're 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:35.240 doing in terms of understanding how we play and then defensively, 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:37.800 obviously that is gonna take the cake. And it's amazing 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:40.280 to have you back, you know, feeling good and healthy 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:43.360 to help lead that charge. But we know how to playoffs. 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:48.640 The rotation is tight. But you with that tight rotation, 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:51.919 you have those three to four guys, and it's gonna 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:56.560 be j K mood, you know, d Ly one even 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:59.720 Gp a little bit. It was guys depending on matchups, 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:02.000 depending on how the series go, you have to be 1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:05.280 prepared and ready and locked into what you're gonna be 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:08.360 asked to do. And that could be five minutes, that 1:04:08.400 --> 1:04:11.040 could be a thirty minute run. That can be starting 1:04:11.080 --> 1:04:13.240 one game, come off the bench one game. Like the 1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:15.880 flexibility and that because we have so many pieces to 1:04:15.920 --> 1:04:17.640 go to. Like some teams they have eight guys, They're 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.280 gonna play eight guys the whole the whole run and 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:25.920 that's it. We're not that team. UM. So if we 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:28.600 we play like you know, our our rotation, we play 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:30.080 at the highest level of do what we need to do, 1:04:30.160 --> 1:04:32.240 and we have you know, our guys ready to step 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:36.760 into those roles. Um. You know on a moment's notice, 1:04:36.920 --> 1:04:39.000 that's gonna give us our best chance because we know 1:04:39.040 --> 1:04:40.400 it's gonna be tough. We know how hard it is 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:42.000 to win the championship and how many things have to 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:44.920 go your way. But we can take on that challenge 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:46.880 of what you said starting the season, like doing something 1:04:46.920 --> 1:04:49.800 that hasn't been done historically, and then we'll do it 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:52.440 what comes next, you know, when it comes, because that's 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:55.840 the nature of the NBA. But I like the fact 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:57.720 that we have the ability to throw a bunch of 1:04:57.720 --> 1:05:00.640 different guys out there um, and us that you know 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:04.640 they can provide and provide value and do do what 1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:07.720 they need to do out there, um. And no brighter 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:09.720 stage of the playoffs to show that because this is 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:13.200 just a different energy. And when you look back, like 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:17.120 certain guys that have helped us win a series or 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:19.960 a championship, some of the names will be you know, 1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:23.600 will hop off the page in terms of uh, some 1:05:23.680 --> 1:05:25.680 unexpected guys that came into a role and did what 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:31.280 they needed to do. Um. And speaking of a championship, 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:36.400 if you if you could trade the two thousand and 1:05:36.480 --> 1:05:43.520 seventeen and eighteen championship to complete the seventy three win championship, 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:48.360 would you trade those two championships to complete the seventy 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:57.840 three mm? Hm, so I get the resume rights I have, 1:05:58.080 --> 1:06:09.280 we'd have two chips and damn their perfect season. You see. 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:13.920 I didn't want to stand you see, I'm blam blacked 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:15.520 out as soon as I had to even acknowledge it. 1:06:17.320 --> 1:06:23.280 Sixty Uh oh man, I don't I don't even not 1:06:23.360 --> 1:06:27.840 answer that question. I would say no, But I think 1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:29.600 for the rest of our life, I'll still be able 1:06:29.640 --> 1:06:32.920 to just laugh at sixteen. Which is fine, It's fine. 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:39.680 It's always gonna be that just awkward, like acknowledgement of 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:43.080 an amazing regular season and then in the finals run. 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:49.440 But yeah, I say no, but glad I'm glad. I 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:54.200 don't take myself too seriously because that was hard. You 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:57.440 don't have your Steph Curry in your life. Get your 1:06:57.560 --> 1:07:01.680 Steph Curry because if you said yes, this interview was over, 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:09.280 my heart was broken. Get your Steph Curry because he 1:07:09.360 --> 1:07:22.600 mean yes, get your step No. I think honestly that essentially, 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:27.960 that essentially puts you in the place. Uh, undoubtedly the 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:33.920 best team ever. Um if if we were to complete 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:37.320 it now cool to be in a conversation. To be 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:44.040 quite frank with you, I still think we had best 1:07:44.040 --> 1:07:49.200 team ever. Although we didn't finish it and win the championship, 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:52.720 I still think that was the best team ever until 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:56.400 two thousand seventeen. I was about to say where are we? 1:07:56.800 --> 1:08:01.120 Where we going there? Because until two of the team 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:03.320 and then I think that team took over the readiest 1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:07.800 team ever. So I think we still accomplished it. The 1:08:07.920 --> 1:08:12.680 best team ever, but not quite. You know, people take 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:14.920 numbers and they want to put the numbers there and say, oh, 1:08:14.920 --> 1:08:18.479 where the bulls had seventy? Like exactly we were the 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:20.840 best team ever. I don't I don't care what no 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:24.880 one said. I can't see anyone beating that two thousand 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:29.360 seventeen team, not even our first fifteen sixteen. I can't 1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:33.559 see anyone beating that two thousand seventeen team. They say 1:08:33.600 --> 1:08:38.960 in the medical feel that I concur hands down the 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:44.599 best team ever. But before we get out of here, um, 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:49.000 I've always asked you questions just about marriage, UM, about kids, 1:08:49.960 --> 1:08:57.960 how your parents, how you are in your marriage, um. 1:08:58.000 --> 1:09:01.120 Because You've always been a great example for me to watch, 1:09:01.479 --> 1:09:03.960 and I'm appreciative of that. Like I think you know, 1:09:04.000 --> 1:09:08.439 people don't realize you we spend I spend more time 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:10.240 with you than you spend with your wife, Like you 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.200 spend more time with me than I spend with my 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:15.439 wife and my kids. Like that's just the nature and 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:17.760 what we do. Like we spend a ton of time 1:09:17.760 --> 1:09:20.960 together for half for half the year we're on the road, 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:24.559 we're all together. And then even when we're not on 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:30.040 the road, we've been here since nine am less like 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:34.439 you still spend and spend a ton of time together. 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:39.720 But I've been able to watch you for ten years now, um, 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:43.559 and your growth and parenting, your growth as a husband, 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:45.720 and just how you continue to grow. And I have 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:49.639 such a strong appreciation for that now and saying that 1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:52.760 the rest of America has also been able to watch 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:57.360 your marriage and your growth and you and Aisha are 1:09:57.400 --> 1:10:00.320 almost like y'all, y'all are the golden stand there than 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:03.360 like the couple of goals and like that everyone really 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:06.599 look at and say, man, like we want that. Do 1:10:06.640 --> 1:10:09.240 you do y'all feel that pressure in your marriage or 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:12.000 are y'all just so grounded in your marriage that like 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:15.439 what anyone says from the outside really don't matter, or 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:18.120 do you feel that pressure in your marriage to kind 1:10:18.160 --> 1:10:21.320 of uphold what the world see y'all as? Like the 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:25.559 world see y'all as the ideal couple that made it 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:28.000 work since a young age and still making it work. 1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:33.520 That like on your trajectory to greatness comes her trajectory 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:36.640 to greatness, and like she's doing great things and like 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:40.680 sweet July Um was the cover was the face of 1:10:40.720 --> 1:10:43.479 cover girl, like all the things that she's doing. Um, 1:10:43.520 --> 1:10:47.400 she has her I should cook, wearing and stores and 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:50.440 just to see both of y'all like sin, it's been incredible. 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:53.760 Do y'all feel that pressure from the outside world to 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:56.400 be that gold that they all want to be? And 1:10:56.439 --> 1:10:59.960 then it's it's both for sure, um, but I say 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:04.160 of that because we never like acknowledge any type of 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:10.320 title like that or like pressure or um put any 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:13.960 merit on like that as a goal, right, but we 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:18.280 also understand the influence inspiration that it can provide and 1:11:18.360 --> 1:11:22.840 that's what people need. You can't sell yourself for that, 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:25.960 like in terms of how you live your day to 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:28.679 day life. And uh, there's got to be a balance 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:31.720 to it. But the best part about it, and I 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:33.760 can honestly say that is because it's built on such 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:37.400 a solid foundation that we are just living our lives 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:42.360 and doing it together and sharing every up and every down. 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:46.679 You know, the growth that has come individually and stuff 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:50.720 that we never in a millionaires could imagine, like uh, 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:53.920 that we be doing and you know together and in 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:57.400 our in our individual careers on top of you know, 1:11:57.439 --> 1:12:01.439 raising three amazing kids. Like the foundation was so strong, 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:05.000 um because none of this was around. And I'm truly 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:08.920 appreciative of that, Um that I do have somebody that 1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:10.519 I can share all of this with. And who knows 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:14.160 how I'm thinking before before I'm even thinking that I 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:16.519 can you know, understand some of the pressures that she's 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:19.160 going through as a quote unquote basketball wife, which we 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:22.720 know it's not just the thing, it's it's something that 1:12:22.840 --> 1:12:26.880 is thrown at you know them unnecessarily every single day 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:32.040 of either comparisons or standards that they have to uphold 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:35.760 every day, or just the constant noise around like what's 1:12:35.760 --> 1:12:39.000 happening in our world is always having to impact them 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:40.760 or they have to answer to it or whatever the 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:43.519 class you even think about, like stuff that's going on 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:46.040 this year, and like terms of fan interaction, like it's 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.800 hard for them to come to game sometimes, like keeping 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:50.479 it real, like we're going to playoff games on the 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:54.200 road and there's always you know, people yelling at them 1:12:54.200 --> 1:12:56.479 because they think that's gonna affect us and all this 1:12:56.560 --> 1:12:58.800 other stuff. And like, I have such an appreciation for 1:12:58.840 --> 1:13:02.320 her growing into that role too, because it's loud at times, 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:05.160 and it's there's a lot of you know, opportunity for 1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:09.840 distraction and stress and um and whatnot. But our foundation 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:12.000 is key, the fact that we can share that with 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:16.680 the world the proper ways. Um, trying to be as 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:19.439 authentic and real about the things that we're experiencing and 1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:24.320 hopefully you know, give a good light on what marriages 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:27.080 because there's so much fear around what that is, and 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:31.920 and and obviously you you want to uh to honor 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:34.320 you know, that establishment as much as possible in the 1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:36.360 e comipment that we made. So it's it's it's a 1:13:36.400 --> 1:13:38.760 little bit of everything. But the fact that I get 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.080 to be her big supporter and biggest supporter and see 1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:44.400 what she's been able to create on her own and um, 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:46.600 and know what work she's put into it and the 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:48.680 stuff behind the scenes that nobody gets to see. Like 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.679 that stuff is so dope to me and so rewarding 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:55.360 because um, you know, she deserves everything she's got. And uh, 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:57.840 I'm proud of her for that. I was a little 1:13:57.880 --> 1:13:59.640 more like me in a sense of shells throw it 1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:07.920 up before you know it's out there, like it just 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:16.439 it just blew out. One thing I admire is and 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:20.200 and I guess it's just who you are because you know, 1:14:20.280 --> 1:14:22.280 as a brother in my life, you've been the same way. 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:23.920 Like I said, she's like me in the sense that 1:14:23.960 --> 1:14:25.840 it will just come out. And as a brother in 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:28.200 my life, no matter where I've went wrong, um, no 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:32.040 matter you know, if I've said some wrong things before, 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:37.439 You've always supported me. And one thing I admire about 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:41.719 you in your relationship, but you in particular is even 1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:47.280 at times where she may have said the wrong thing, Um, 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:50.439 your support for her and saying that and and and 1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:56.000 standing in front of it. It's like, uh, you stood 1:14:56.040 --> 1:14:58.120 in front of her as if she was right and 1:14:58.200 --> 1:15:02.080 it don't matter. I am my heard that. But that's 1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:04.880 that's for you. That can get a little dicey too, 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:07.600 because you have a brand and you have all the 1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:10.760 things that you've built, but you stood in front of 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:14.440 her no matter what that situation, like what the situation 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:19.479 has been. Is that just like that's just what it is. 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.280 That's the way it's gonna be. Like is there a 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:26.280 conversation to be had? Like how does that? How do 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:28.800 you go about that? I think that's powerful because a 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:33.040 lot of it is, uh the fact that, like you 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:36.360 just said, I know you're gonna mess up at times, 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.559 and obviously I've done the exact same thing, and I 1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:41.960 can defend myself. But when it comes to like the 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:48.680 unnecessary just focus and heat on somebody, that is like 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:50.840 take a take a second and walk in her shoes, 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:53.360 for you know, I'm not saying. And she were all 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:57.800 blessed and we all you know, have amazing things going 1:15:57.800 --> 1:16:00.000 on in our life. But like my sister always said, 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:03.080 everybody's mountain is their mountain, and there are certain things 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:05.720 that you will never know she's going through in terms of, 1:16:06.400 --> 1:16:08.400 you know, all the different hats she has to wear, 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:11.320 and you know the responsibilities and the expectations of a 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:14.400 woman and all of those arenas and what they go 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:16.880 through on a daily basis. Like I have an appreciation 1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:20.000 for all of that, so I know she would hold 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:22.639 me down in those situations in the same way it goes, 1:16:22.720 --> 1:16:24.479 you know, the other way, and that is my job 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:28.160 as her husband, and so I take that, take that seriously. 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:32.559 And the biggest pieces, like it's such a long journeyman, 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:35.000 Like there's gonna be so much stuff that you know 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:37.680 that happens, and if you, like I said, if you 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:39.559 have a strong foundation of how you're gonna get through 1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:43.960 that stuff like um, at the end of the day, 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:46.040 Like there's so much confidence in that because I know, 1:16:46.760 --> 1:16:48.439 I know who she is, I know what she's about, 1:16:48.720 --> 1:16:51.800 and never second guess that. So it makes it a 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:54.640 little bit easier in times where there is conflict and 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:58.880 there is uh what you ever want to call a drama, 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:02.240 necessary drama, because that's that's what it is. For sure. 1:17:02.280 --> 1:17:07.320 I think I have an appreciation for that because for 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:10.720 the longest time I would see you operate that way 1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:13.800 and I didn't understand it, in part due to because 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:17.799 I didn't have that for myself, like you know, um 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:20.519 once once being in a relationship with Hayzell, I learned 1:17:20.600 --> 1:17:24.400 so much about being in the relationship and and support 1:17:24.520 --> 1:17:27.400 for a woman and the hats that they actually were 1:17:27.479 --> 1:17:29.720 before that I can't say I understood that, like I 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:33.160 didn't understand all the hats. I didn't understand, um, the 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:36.760 things that you know, she's doing for our kids and 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:40.400 like holding our house together, and like all the different 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:43.080 hats that a woman where I can't say that I 1:17:43.160 --> 1:17:46.040 understood that. If you want me to be honest with you, 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:50.960 I thought, like, like I gotta go out here and 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:55.400 play every day. Your life is very simple until you 1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:59.120 really connect with someone and like you sharing that pain, 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:03.960 you feel that hurt, you see the struggles. It gave 1:18:04.040 --> 1:18:06.320 me a totally different appreciation for it. I don't know 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:07.960 if you remember this, but I asked you a question 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:10.639 on the plane before and I said, if there's one 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:14.880 luxury in the world, And this is long before my understanding, 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:17.200 it's probably six seven years ago. I asked you this. 1:18:17.280 --> 1:18:19.519 I said, if there's one luxury in the world that 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:21.000 you can have and you can have it for the 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:22.880 rest of your life, or that you could just have 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:27.679 one luxury, what would that luxury be? And I asked you, 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:31.080 I asked, Clay, maybe delete I know mine was a 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:34.600 private plane. Like a private plane, that's one that's the 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:38.920 ultimate luxury to me. And I'll never forget your answer. 1:18:38.960 --> 1:18:43.320 I was so disappointed and your answer. I look back 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:45.920 on that answer now and I want a hundred percent 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:51.640 understand because what your answer was, it isn't like it 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:54.400 it has a bearing on your life. It has a 1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:57.000 bearing on you being you know. One of the things 1:18:57.000 --> 1:18:58.519 that you told me, it's like me I used to 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:02.679 date and like like we have a relationship totally several 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:06.320 of the kids that we really involved, like that we 1:19:06.400 --> 1:19:09.559 really commit to because we know if we're committed to 1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:14.000 that relationship, the kids they'll be fine and they'll automatically 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:17.360 benefit from that. And I understand that now. But when 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:21.280 I asked you that question, it was so disappointing. You 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:29.200 said that, Nanny, I'm like, all the luxuries in the world. 1:19:30.960 --> 1:19:35.680 Stress that all the luxuries in the world, you can 1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:43.200 have nanny. I didn't understand it. I do understand it 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:46.599 now though, but I didn't understand it then. And that 1:19:46.760 --> 1:19:50.280 was like, I mean, I thought she was so imagine 1:19:50.280 --> 1:19:52.400 like the refact you talked about the stuff that they 1:19:52.640 --> 1:19:55.400 then my wife does to be a presence in a 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.280 you know, care give her and take of our kids, 1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:01.360 and just the amount of that. They might not even 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:03.200 feel like it's worked, but I feel like you leave 1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:08.679 me at home with the kids, God, something's gonna break. 1:20:08.920 --> 1:20:12.800 I might lose one of them at the house. They 1:20:12.880 --> 1:20:15.840 might be hungry. Uh, I don't know what. Like, it's 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:18.439 just a whole lot of stuff. But like that definitely 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:22.559 is a reflection of just appreciation for what it takes 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:25.679 to be you know, amazing wife and a mother and 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:27.880 an entrepreneur and all that type of stuff. And the 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:32.960 other piece to that appreciation is, I know how hard 1:20:33.080 --> 1:20:35.400 you know, we work to do what we do and 1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:37.960 what it takes to be successful. It's something you pour 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:41.920 everything you have into it. Yeah, I feel like there's 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:45.400 a kind of common theme of like women in general, 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:47.160 you know, I have to work twice as hard the 1:20:47.200 --> 1:20:52.120 same opportunity and that's like just common and you know, 1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:54.840 we can talk about pay equity and all that all 1:20:54.880 --> 1:20:57.519 that stuff, but we can also like even think about 1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:01.599 a lot of accomplishments when wifes have been marginalized because 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:04.559 of my success. So think about it, I worked twice 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:07.519 as hard to get, you know, acknowledgement of success and 1:21:07.560 --> 1:21:09.559 I'm into my business. But all of that is and 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:11.679 then I would get half the praise for it because 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:15.640 it's the cold because you have money, it's because you 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:19.519 can afford multipleities. It's because you know your your husband 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:22.120 is the superstar in the NBA that it's easy. You've 1:21:22.160 --> 1:21:24.120 got all the opportunity in the world. Like I never 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:27.479 appreciated that vibe because I don't get all from praise 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:31.800 like that. But you also haven't appreciated like what you 1:21:31.880 --> 1:21:34.240 put in is not gonna necessarily come back, you know, 1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:38.800 with the same energy. And once that clicked, like all 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:40.800 the other stuff made much so much more sense in 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:43.360 terms of the day to day on just finding peace 1:21:43.360 --> 1:21:45.160 and happiness at the end of the day, and so 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:50.040 um every other wife in the world I got so 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:52.760 much respect for. But what you do, uh, and we 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:56.599 wouldn't be who we are without them, I agree. Trying 1:21:56.600 --> 1:22:00.479 to get some brownie points on the Draymond Green showed today. 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:02.559 I got a date in two hours, and it better 1:22:02.600 --> 1:22:04.799 be good. As I'm playing this, I get the advanced 1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:09.240 guy can get the raw. We're sending this right away. 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:12.840 But speaking, I mean two more questions. I didn't know 1:22:12.840 --> 1:22:18.080 you had a date, but last one about Aisha, and 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:21.720 then just one for you. As as guys, especially in 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:28.120 our position, UM, like Hazel's an actress, She's constantly doing auditions. 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:31.240 I'm constantly reading I know you remember this because I 1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:33.360 used you used to be in the same field. I'm 1:22:33.400 --> 1:22:38.599 reading these like these scripts. I'm reading the script slides 1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:43.040 they call them. I'm reading the slides and trying to 1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:46.040 record her because as you, COVID sent everything home. So 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:49.920 I'm the cameraman, I'm the reader, I'm all of these things. 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:52.720 I'm not likeing Man doing all of these things. And 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:55.160 I have a huge appreciation for her and her grind 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:59.880 and what she puts into it. Um, but that's not 1:23:00.000 --> 1:23:02.840 always the case, And especially in our profession. A lot 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:05.599 of guys have egos, and a lot of guys are 1:23:05.760 --> 1:23:12.800 super super and secure and what we do and I 1:23:12.960 --> 1:23:16.920 iss just leveled up on a totally different level over 1:23:16.960 --> 1:23:20.720 the last two three years or so and everything that 1:23:20.840 --> 1:23:26.240 she's doing. How was that for you? Accepting that growth? 1:23:26.280 --> 1:23:30.440 Because it changes the dynamic, Like it changes you could 1:23:30.479 --> 1:23:33.040 come home from a ten day road trip and she 1:23:33.160 --> 1:23:36.240 going for ten days, and then now she come back 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.920 from her ten day tripping all her business that she's handling, 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:43.400 and then you're leaving for four days. How has that 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:47.200 been for you? And adjusting to what she's been able 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:49.599 to do, all the things that she has her hands 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:53.120 and and the businesses that she's started and are running. 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:59.240 And I you know, like cover Girl isn't a business 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:01.160 that she started then be in the face of that 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:03.920 that comes with a requirement? How how is that for you? 1:24:03.960 --> 1:24:08.320 And to accept that this is who she's becoming. And 1:24:08.400 --> 1:24:12.000 I support that one because it totally changes the dynamic 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:14.880 that you were used to for years. You gotta that's 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:18.479 where we came. I mean it's not a genius term, 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:20.600 but like we literally have to thrive in chaos a 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:25.240 little bit because it is. Uh, you got all these 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:27.000 plans for what the year gonna look like and how 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:29.160 we're gonna balance it out. Okay, we're gonna match up 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:34.560 road trips and work, Uh crazy work schedules and that, 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:36.400 you know, when I have a homestand we're all at 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:38.840 home and we have some normalcy and family dinners and 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:40.720 all that, and then you get like three or four 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:44.760 weeks into the season, you're like, uh, we ain't getting 1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:48.600 this right. But to your point, like it's a celebration 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:52.640 of what she's doing, is understanding that we're trying to 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:54.560 do everything at the same time, like we're trying to 1:24:54.640 --> 1:24:56.679 raise her family. I'm in the height of my career. 1:24:56.800 --> 1:25:00.760 She's you know, a serial entrepreneur and has a a 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:04.320 lot of uh you know success like scaling these businesses 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:08.559 up and what it requires to do that. Um, you 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:11.320 kind of have to continue to reprioritize like again, like 1:25:11.360 --> 1:25:14.240 you said, like dating each other and having as much 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.680 quality time as you can. You know, the kids are 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:20.439 definitely you know, a priority. Um and work, like all 1:25:20.479 --> 1:25:24.040 those things kind of shuffle at the same time, and UM, 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:25.840 it's it's difficult. I want to sit here and try 1:25:25.880 --> 1:25:28.519 to sugarcoat and say like we got everything perfect. But 1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:30.599 at the end of the day, the one thing I'll 1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:32.519 make a joke, the one thing that has done is 1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:35.600 like I kind of looking forward to like what is 1:25:35.600 --> 1:25:40.960 the tirement look like? What is that? What does that 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:43.559 actually look like? We're getting out months of my year 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:46.200 back and uh, you know you're gonna work trip cool, 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:48.240 I'll be here and I ain't got kids. I mean 1:25:48.280 --> 1:25:49.960 it might look different when you get back, but I 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:54.160 don't worry. I hold it that. But we have an 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:57.439 amazing village around this that helps UM, and you know 1:25:57.479 --> 1:26:02.120 that it's extremely crucial to supporting us and what we do. 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:05.800 But there is an understanding that you know, these could 1:26:05.800 --> 1:26:08.599 be the busiest and most chaotic times of our lives, 1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:11.840 but the most rewarding in terms of UM, you know, 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:13.960 life experiences and when even what we get to share 1:26:13.960 --> 1:26:18.880 with our kids, UM along the way, So UM, at 1:26:18.880 --> 1:26:22.479 the end of the day, were always tired. Though your 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:26.080 last answer honestly leads me to my last question, which 1:26:26.200 --> 1:26:30.960 was what does retirement and life after basketball look like 1:26:31.080 --> 1:26:36.559 for Steph Curry? And it's two part questions, Um, does 1:26:38.040 --> 1:26:41.880 will we get the opportunity to see stuff on the 1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:45.120 p g A tour or at least pursue because I 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:50.080 like the word pursue, pursue because like we're professional basketball players, 1:26:50.120 --> 1:26:54.400 so no disrespect to all the PGA golfers, Like I 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:57.960 know what it takes to to be what what you 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:00.080 all have become and what you're doing. I don't know 1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:01.880 what it takes to be a golfer, but to be 1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:04.960 a professional and so no disrespect, but I know your 1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.760 love for golf. I know your relationship with the tour, 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:11.000 with the guys on the tour. Um, will we one 1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:17.280 days have the opportunity to see Steph Curry pursue playing 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:20.519 on the tour. There are a couple of templates that 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:23.840 are certain other professional athletes from other sports have taken 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:28.440 and to dabble into professional golf. Uh like John Smoltz, 1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:37.280 Tony Romo, um, Marty Fish who was uh amazing tennis player. Uh. 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:41.759 All of those guys have found ways to find competitive golf, 1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:46.040 test their skills. Um getting grain too, some of the 1:27:46.200 --> 1:27:49.000 kind of tempole events. So I encountered a year that 1:27:50.320 --> 1:27:53.400 kind of scratch that itch, if you will. So I'm 1:27:53.400 --> 1:27:55.800 gonna learn from that when when it's all said done, 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:59.559 I don't know if that's the scary part is like 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:03.599 if you told me that I know what it takes 1:28:03.600 --> 1:28:06.559 to be a basketball player at this level and the grind, right, 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:09.679 I'm not afraid of that grind. But I'm also afraid 1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:11.720 of that grind because with the grind starts and I 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:14.320 commit to it, I'm not gonna stop. So I have 1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:17.080 to I gotta find some clarity on that question because 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:19.120 it would be interesting to see how far I could go. 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:22.639 But I'm also afraid of what it what that means, 1:28:22.680 --> 1:28:26.200 because my work ethic is something I hang my hat on, 1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:29.960 and you can take that and apply to something else. 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:34.400 My one. I just hyped up my relationship with my 1:28:34.400 --> 1:28:36.800 wife and success in peace and happiness, and I might 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:41.240 ruin I might ruin all of that by saying, hey, baby, 1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:45.320 I'm yeah, you know whatever, seventeen eighteen years in the league, 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:49.240 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go try golf. Now, let's 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.320 just watch Frinds and peat this whole last eighteen years. 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:54.599 I don't know what that's gonna look like, but those 1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:56.599 guys are figured out a way to have some fun, 1:28:56.720 --> 1:28:58.840 keep it competitive, but not go all the way into 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:03.320 the deep end. To see my brother. I appreciate it. 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:06.240 I mean, I think like people always ask me. Obviously 1:29:06.240 --> 1:29:08.200 you know I can't go off, but people always ask me, 1:29:09.400 --> 1:29:10.720 um am I going to coach? But I am not 1:29:10.760 --> 1:29:14.360 gonna be a GM when I'm down playing, and I 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:18.559 tell everybody, no, hell no, Like, the last thing I 1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:21.439 want to be on when I'm done playing it's a 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:27.320 basketball schedule. I've been on a basketball schedule my entire life. 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:30.000 The last thing I want to do is retire and 1:29:30.040 --> 1:29:33.679 then be back on the basketball schedule. So I totally 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:41.519 understand my brother, I totally understand, and from myself Producer Jackson, Uh, 1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:44.160 Jackson has been sucking blowing my phone up all week 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:49.519 about this episode. How are you thinking work? We had 1:29:49.520 --> 1:29:53.200 two calls about this episode and making and trying to 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:57.240 make it as perfect as possible, and honestly, um, it's 1:29:57.240 --> 1:30:00.600 really a uh, you know, just a non to to 1:30:00.760 --> 1:30:04.559 you and everything that you've done. Um, who you are 1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:08.120 these trophies, your m v P trophies that sit right 1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:12.200 next to those trophies, that's just in your own personal case. Um, 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:15.080 who you are as a person, a steward of the 1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:25.200 game of basketball, um, and an example for black men. 1:30:25.600 --> 1:30:30.000 And how like, no, we can be successful in marriage 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:32.519 and like yeah there is a divorce rating, Like we 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:36.040 can be successful and as as the head of a family, 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:38.479 because that is skewed, and like we don't get to 1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:41.479 see that all the time, and so I think, you know, 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:46.200 when when speaking of a couple goals, it's incredible to 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:51.880 see to African Americans do what y'all are doing. And 1:30:52.040 --> 1:30:55.280 so I appreciate that, man, I appreciate it, and I 1:30:55.320 --> 1:30:59.160 want to say things, UM, for everything that you've done 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:02.919 and been to in my life. Um, for the success 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:05.200 that we've had. You know, there's always this notion of 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:09.200 like Draymond can't do can't do it without Steph, or 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:11.720 he can't do it without Clay. And I'll be one 1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:18.320 hard person, honest, I can't on the flip side Clay 1:31:18.360 --> 1:31:22.679 and Steph. Clay can't do it without Stephan, Draymond and 1:31:22.760 --> 1:31:26.120 Steph can't do it without Clay and Draymond. And I think, 1:31:26.240 --> 1:31:30.920 for for me, what we've built, it's not that I 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:33.519 can't go on and do something else. It's not that 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.840 you wouldn't be successful in playing with someone Else's not 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:40.479 that Clay couldn't go to the Lakers tomorrow and be 1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:43.840 Clay time. It's not that it's just not as beautiful 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.640 as what we've been able to do together. And so 1:31:51.800 --> 1:31:57.559 fuck everybody everybody who say I can't or he can't 1:31:57.640 --> 1:32:01.680 or Clay can't. You're right, you win. We can't. We 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:04.360 can't do it all each other, but we're damn good 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:07.400 doing it together. That's it from this episode of drem 1:32:07.680 --> 1:32:10.240 Green Show. Thank you, my brother. It's a rat. We 1:32:10.320 --> 1:32:10.479 are