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Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter number fifty seven, Rob Parker.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I've been covering Major League Baseball for almost

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Speaker 3: forty years now, in New York, in Cincinnati, in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the World Series edition of Inside the Parker and Man.

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Speaker 3: Game one of the twenty twenty five World Series the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Dodgers the Toronto Blue Jays on Friday, Game

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Speaker 3: one in Toronto. We're gonna go to Toronto and talk

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Speaker 3: to Bob Nightingale, of course, the fine baseball columnists from

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Speaker 3: USA Today.

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Speaker 2: We'll get a preview.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that, plus we'll have my latest appearance from

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Speaker 3: MLB Network on MLB Now, that and much more.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto.

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Speaker 1: If I'm writing, I'm ripping, Let's bring in a writer

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Speaker 1: or broadcaster, old or new.

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Speaker 3: Now let's welcome into the podcast. Bob Nightingale, one of

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Speaker 3: the best baseball writers in the country, of course for

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Speaker 3: USA Today. He's a columnist there, and he's in Toronto

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Speaker 3: for a Game one of the World Series, of course,

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Speaker 3: Friday night, the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Bob? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Doing great?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 4: Rob?

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Speaker 2: All right? Always always great?

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I thought it was gonna

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Speaker 3: be Seattle and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I really did.

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Speaker 3: When they won the first two games in Toronto, Bob

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Speaker 3: and the Blue Jays showed me something, winning four of

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Speaker 3: the last five, including a Game seven and down three

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Speaker 2: What about this Blue Jay team?

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Speaker 3: They seemed like they they're destined.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought they were going to be in the

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Speaker 6: I thought I would say, they're playing the World Series

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Speaker 6: against the Dodgers or the Phillies, right, you know that

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Speaker 6: was the real World Series, like a year ago, the

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Speaker 6: real World Series as the Potteris and Dodgers. Uh, Bluechers

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Speaker 6: is the best team. I thought the Blue Jays playing

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers makes a much better World Series than with Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Nothing against Seattle, but I think if Seattle just got there,

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Speaker 6: it's said, oh, we finally made our first world series.

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Speaker 4: I sing in the cake.

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Speaker 6: I think this would be a much better series because

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Speaker 6: they're they're loaded offensively than a lot of stars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of ours, for sure. The

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Speaker 3: only thing I will say, and I hear you, it

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Speaker 3: could have been great Seattle, just like the Cinderella story,

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Speaker 3: Dodgers that spend a gazillion dollars. That could have made

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Speaker 3: for an epic story. You know, I don't know, it

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Speaker 6: But it's just like, ah, you know, we have David

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about uh, the Dodgers, and I know

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Speaker 3: They beat the Phillies. The Phillies beat them really one game,

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Speaker 3: were their bats were dead. I get the Dodgers have

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Speaker 3: good pitching, Bob, but they scored one run in each game,

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Speaker 4: Well? I think third World Series was being the Cubs.

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Speaker 6: Once they beat the one, they won the division, then

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Speaker 6: Once they knocked them off in a great five game series,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dodgers, are you worried about their offense? Blue Jays

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Speaker 3: before that game for Bob Not he had struck out

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Speaker 3: sixteen and out of thirty four bats at one point

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Speaker 6: I mean, Phillies pitched great against them. Hey, the Brewers

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Speaker 6: I mean, uh, you know, they I don't think they

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, I think we'll see those Blue Jays,

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Speaker 6: be interested in how his layoff effects of Dodgers. I

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Speaker 6: think that's just where Blue Jays could have unvantaged because

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Speaker 6: see in the layoffs throws them off, think a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The thing that's crazy and I saw this on MLB network, Bob,

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Speaker 2: I think it's happened four.

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Speaker 3: Times where one team swept the championship series, right.

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Speaker 2: The league Championship Series.

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Speaker 3: Sure, the team played seven games, and in those four

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Speaker 3: matchups of those four World Series, the teams that played

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Speaker 3: seven games all won and none of them went the distance.

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Speaker 3: In the World Series, they won pretty easily, like in

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Speaker 3: just the way we're you. Baseball is an everyday kind

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you do get a little rusty in hey, I

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Speaker 6: the same thing can happen here. Uh, you know, had

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers. To be honest, the Dodgers did not want

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Speaker 6: They would have had a home fell advantage, would had

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Speaker 6: you know, spite a little bit of a downer for them,

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Speaker 2: No, no doubt to get about it.

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Speaker 3: Our guess is Bob Nightingale from USA today of course

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Speaker 3: to find baseball columns joining us here on inside the Parker, Bob,

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Speaker 3: Let's let's look at the Dodgers' bullpen. I know they

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Speaker 3: didn't really get taxed or used in the Brewers Series,

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Speaker 3: but if the Blue Jays can get to their starters, uh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gotta be.

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Speaker 6: I thought before the postseason started the Dodgers were gonna

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Speaker 4: So they've got away with it so far.

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Speaker 6: But it's hard to believe that bullpen will be you know,

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Speaker 6: This is my Mario Rovera and the Blue Jays don't

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Speaker 2: How about that.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get back to the Blue Jays and

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Speaker 3: George Spring of course with the big three run home

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Speaker 2: The Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: And he was bad last year and I know he

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Speaker 2: He's played a long time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good for him, and you're right, he hasn't lived

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, great postseason obviously, maybe the second biggest

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Speaker 6: to see you, good guy. And you know, when he's

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Speaker 4: He's with the Astros.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. Hey, Bob, let's check in

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Speaker 3: on a couple of things going on. Baseball wise. Tony

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Speaker 3: Vottello was hired Tennessee balls coach who's now going to

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Speaker 3: be the San Francisco Giants manager an unpressed a debt at.

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Speaker 2: Higher in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Crazy to me, But I just want to get your

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Speaker 4: Francisco Yeah, I think it's wild.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like you said, this guy never guy, never

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a massive gamble.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, Hey, Buster, Posey's putting his job

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Speaker 6: plus you're paying the big time money.

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Speaker 4: He's the top five highest paid managers in the game.

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Speaker 3: A lot of Bob, Come on, Bob, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 6: He's making three and a half million there has never

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Speaker 4: So every manager now who's.

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Speaker 6: Look runs their owners and say, wait a minute, now

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Speaker 6: an extension right now. No, it's a massive gamble. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Let's see. I don't so that college stuff is going

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Speaker 3: You get your podcast. Uh, let's go to the Los

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Speaker 3: Today it was bombshell news in the NBA with the gambling.

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Speaker 3: And we know part of it, Bob was you know,

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Speaker 3: he's being investigated. How big of a bombshell could just

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Speaker 2: Is this going to be an issue?

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Speaker 6: Oh, and it's give me an issue. I mean, you

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Speaker 6: And here's Claus say he was, you know, he was

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Speaker 4: They throw balls? You know you do that, and.

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Speaker 6: Uh no, it looks bad to the investigation go this long,

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Speaker 6: uh it's unbelievable and you can't think that. Okay, just

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Speaker 6: Who knows what's gonna happen in the future. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, then it gets ugly. And the

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Speaker 3: No doubt, it can mess with the integrity of the game.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks for your insight. There one last thing,

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Speaker 3: then I'm gonna let you go. I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays in five games. I don't think the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 6: I remember hot streak. I missed only one so far

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Speaker 6: in this postseason. I'm going Dodgers and six.

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Speaker 3: Which one did you miss? Real quick before you give

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Speaker 4: Dodgers, Clevean Detroit. I had Cleveland Beandie Trait. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: kind of followed you. I was kind of down in Trait,

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Speaker 3: But they were bad. I was, I was, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong too, but I I just couldn't see it.

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Speaker 3: I just thought they were so bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but they trade. I mean, I mean, Dodgers are

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Speaker 6: you may be right. I mean what we talked about

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Speaker 6: Toronto's gotta play well here.

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Speaker 4: They can't do with it against how they can't.

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Speaker 3: They can't lose the first two games. I agree, they

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: If they grab game.

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Speaker 3: One, it's going to be interesting to see how the

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Speaker 2: But Bob, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers on paper, they're going against history.

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Speaker 2: Bob.

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Speaker 3: The last National League team to repeat was what team.

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Speaker 4: You're big, your all, big red machine. Seventy five seventy

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Speaker 4: six Reds.

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Speaker 3: That'slie. Isn't that unbelievable?

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Speaker 4: That's used that.

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Speaker 6: I like that stat, burn the Yankee stat because you're

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Speaker 4: No, I like that one, burning the Yankee one, the.

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Speaker 3: Yankee one by it's been twenty five years, right, ninety

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Speaker 3: ninety nine and two thousand. But my god, the Reds

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Speaker 3: one is crazy for the National League. So we shall see, Bob,

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Speaker 3: always a pleasure, my man. Enjoy the World Series. I'll

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Speaker 3: see you in Los Angeles. I'll miss the first two

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Look forward to it.

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Speaker 7: All right, time for the showdown, and we welcome in

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Speaker 3: Rob, how are you today? I'm doing great, Steve, how

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Speaker 3: are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing great. I've been looking forward to this. Tell you,

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Speaker 7: I've been looking forward to.

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Speaker 3: This all day long.

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Speaker 7: And so all right, you're here to throw cold water

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Speaker 7: on Shohil Tani's and I'll see us Game four performance

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Speaker 7: where he hit three home runs, went six shutout innings

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Speaker 7: of two hit baseball, didn't walk anybody, struck out ten go.

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Speaker 3: I just I want to put some context on it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to say that he's not a great player.

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Speaker 3: It was great to watch. It wasn't the greatest of

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Speaker 3: all time postseason game or baseball game. People were at

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Speaker 3: the hyperbolegue wanted to say that they had never seen

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Speaker 3: anything great like this. It's just not true. We could

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Speaker 3: go back to even Rick Wise with the Phillies in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one. He hit two home runs, pitched a

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Speaker 3: complete game, right a no hitter, a no hitter which

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Speaker 3: was one walk away from a perfect game. With two

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Speaker 3: home runs. Reggie Jackson hit three home runs on three

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Speaker 3: and second of pitches against three different pitches pitchers in

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Speaker 3: the World Series.

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Speaker 7: He throws six shutout innings. I can't remember with Reggie

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Speaker 7: that day.

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Speaker 3: You wait a minute, here's the whey. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: throw you the water on your six shutout innings. Okay,

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Speaker 3: against the Milwaukee Brewers, the team.

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Speaker 7: Of the best record in the National League, just just

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Speaker 7: to be not actually best record all the baseball go ahead, Okay.

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Speaker 3: But at that point when they played that game, they

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Speaker 3: were bat dead, they were already done. He didn't do

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Speaker 3: anything special because like now, shut them down.

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Speaker 7: He went six innings, struck out ten, and hit three

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Speaker 7: home runs. He did something special. And so Reggie hit

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Speaker 7: three home runs on three straight pitches. That's not any

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Speaker 7: better than No Tani hitting three home runs on more

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Speaker 7: than three pitches and striking out ten and six shutout innings.

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Speaker 4: And so it's if it's not.

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Speaker 7: The best postseason performance ever, then you can give it

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Speaker 7: to Rick Wise with two home runs compared to the

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Speaker 7: three and front he's a no hitter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was really great.

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Speaker 7: So it's is it the second best performance ever in

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Speaker 7: the history of the postseason, Like, what's better Don Larson

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Speaker 7: threw a perfect game, didn't hit three home runs? Like

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Speaker 7: what if it's.

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Speaker 3: Not the best the second?

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Speaker 7: Give me an because right.

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Speaker 8: Now, Gigson in nineteen sixty seven, in Game seven of

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Speaker 8: the series.

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Speaker 3: He pitched a complete game, ten strikeouts and also hit

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Speaker 3: a home run in that game.

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Speaker 2: This is a World Series.

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Speaker 7: So he matched Otani in the strikeout category and hit

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Speaker 7: two fewer home runs. But it's the World Series that

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Speaker 7: I'm with you, so we can give that. So you've

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Speaker 7: got two performances that you think are better than Otani's,

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Speaker 7: but it is one of the best ever performances in

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Speaker 7: the postseason. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, it ranks in there. I just want to put

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Speaker 3: context because people were saying, oh, with this performance, it's

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Speaker 3: clear now that he's the greatest player who ever played

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Speaker 3: Major League baseball. I'm gonna pump the brakes on that

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Speaker 3: he's not even amongst the top four your war leaders

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Speaker 3: all time in baseball. I could go on and on

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Speaker 3: and on. It's so premature. I understand the excitement about

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Speaker 3: a guy who can pitch and hit like Otani, but

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Speaker 3: come on, we're not going to bury the last one

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Speaker 3: hundred years in baseball and act like he just showed

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Speaker 3: up and nobody else was any good.

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Speaker 7: So I'm rick Wise's performance was in June, wasn't It

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Speaker 7: wasn't a playoff performance.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: You just told me that it mattered for Bob Gibson

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Speaker 7: because his performance was in the World Series. But you

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Speaker 7: said it doesn't matter that Rick Wise his performance was

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Speaker 7: in June. So what does matter?

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Speaker 3: O tany what matters, Steve? I'll give you what matters.

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Speaker 3: The Brewers were bat dead when Otani faced him, because

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Speaker 3: we saw Yamamoto pitcher a nine in a complete game.

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Speaker 3: We saw a Snell pitch eight innings. Thes had nothing

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Speaker 3: going to He didn't shut down some great juggernaut offense.

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Speaker 7: Hold that thought, yeah, hold that. I mean, they were

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Speaker 7: the best record in all of baseball this year, the

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Speaker 7: Milwaukee Brewers. But hold that thought that. You're right, the

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Speaker 7: Dodger starting pitchers were great. So far, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 7: So let me ask you this. The Giants make a

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Speaker 7: unique and out of the box hiring a Tony Vitello

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Speaker 7: as their new manager, coming from University at Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of the hiring.

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Speaker 3: Terrible, hiring, bad hiring, bush league, hier bush league.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Buster Posey, this will be, mark my words, the

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Speaker 8: beginning of the end, because there's no way you can

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Speaker 8: make this hire, Steve when the Giants are in the

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Speaker 8: division with the Dodgers and with the Padres and the

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Speaker 8: tradition of that franchise.

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Speaker 3: Also, they've had Bruce Bouch. You might go down as

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Speaker 3: the greatest manager ever who managed that team. And for

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Speaker 3: Buster Posey to go out and get and do something

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Speaker 3: novel and trying to be different and hip in that

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Speaker 3: division with what's at stake and those fans in San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: they deserve better, and this is He's fine as a

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Speaker 3: college coach, but no experience in the major leagues. This

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Speaker 3: is not where you learn. If this was Tampa Bay

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Speaker 3: or some franchise like that, maybe I would buy it,

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Speaker 3: but not in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy it.

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Speaker 7: Steve Well, you can make a case he's one of

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Speaker 7: the best college coaches in baseball. They went to won

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Speaker 7: the College World Series and he's done a great job

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Speaker 7: turning that program around. He's been fantastic. It is out

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Speaker 7: of the box. I don't disagree with you. It is

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Speaker 7: a bold hiring from Buster Posey. I mean he managed,

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Speaker 7: He coached sixty five games this year for Tennessee. He's

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Speaker 7: going to have to manage one hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 7: Managing the weekend is different than managing, you know, seven

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Speaker 7: days a week for twenty six weeks of trying to

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Speaker 7: put this all together. So I don't disagree. It is

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Speaker 7: a bold hiring, and we have to wait and see

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Speaker 7: how this plays out. There's no question about that. But

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Speaker 7: I want to give him a chance because if it

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Speaker 7: does work, you're going to see more of that happening

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Speaker 7: because it is copycat league.

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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work, Buster Posey will lose his gig.

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Speaker 3: It's just a big gamble in that division with the

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Speaker 3: Padres and Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: That's the other part that you have to add to it, Steve.

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Speaker 3: You not have somebody learn on the job in that division.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't disagree.

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Speaker 7: Now, part of the issue is though he does have

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Speaker 7: an ownership stake, and so can an owner fire himself

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Speaker 7: as general manager. That'll be interesting to see down the road.

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Speaker 7: All right, So let me ask you this. The Dodgers pitching,

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Speaker 7: they are unbelievable. They're starting pitching so far. But you're

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Speaker 7: not buying the hype how come?

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Speaker 3: Because I think it had more to do with the

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Speaker 3: Brewers than it did with the Dodgers pitching. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that the Dodgers pitching on paper isn't good,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if it's as good as it

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Speaker 3: was against the Brewers. The Brewers couldn't get anything going.

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Speaker 3: They scored one run in each game, barely. They barely

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Speaker 3: lost Game one. If you remember Game one, they lost

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Speaker 3: on the bases loaded walk. They lost with the bases

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Speaker 3: loaded and their player swinging with a ball over his

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Speaker 3: head to lose that game. They're losing Game three on

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Speaker 3: a pickoff throw. They lose that game three to one.

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Speaker 3: They can't muster anything. And the Blue Jays are way

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Speaker 3: better as far as right now scoring runs. They're averaging

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Speaker 3: six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Runs in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: That's unheard of, Steve, And I'm telling you to Dodgers

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Speaker 3: won't be able to control that lineup like they did.

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Speaker 7: The Brewers, So you blame the Brewers offense and don't

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Speaker 7: credit the Dodgers pitchers for that performance. Now, you do

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Speaker 7: know that Glass now Otani and Snell are one, two three,

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Speaker 7: when it comes to strikeouts per nine innings, not just

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs, not just the ear but in the

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Speaker 7: history of baseball with one hundred start minimum, they're one,

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Speaker 7: two and three in strikeouts per nine innings, and so

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Speaker 7: the fact that they dominated the Brewers is not a surprise.

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Speaker 7: They are three of the best strikeout pitchers in all

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Speaker 7: of baseball. Now, I agree that they're going to have

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Speaker 7: a challenge against the Blue Jays because the Blue Jays

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Speaker 7: don't strike out. They have the lowest wifth rate of

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Speaker 7: any team in baseball, and so they're going to try

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Speaker 7: to put it in play. But we can't diminish what

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Speaker 7: the pitchers have done for the Dodgers. They beat the

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Speaker 7: Brewers because their pitching was so good, not because the

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Speaker 7: Brewers weren't good enough. They beat the best team in

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Speaker 7: all of baseball and swept them in the series. So

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Speaker 7: I look at it a little bit differently than you.

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Speaker 7: I want to get to this one though. Can the

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Speaker 7: Dodgers bats beat the Blue Jays arms in this series?

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Speaker 7: The Blue Jays offense is there, but can they neutralize

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Speaker 7: the offense and can the pitching for the Jays stop

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Speaker 7: the Dodgers offense?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely I think that's a week. There's been a week

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Speaker 3: spot for the Dodgers. If you look at their offense.

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Speaker 3: I told you about Game one against the Brewers. They

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Speaker 3: went on on a basis loaded walk. They win Game

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Speaker 3: three three to one on a pickoff.

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Speaker 2: Throw that goes down to right field.

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Speaker 3: Otani before Game four, where people wanted to crown him

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Speaker 3: the greatest ever, was batting one point fifty eight. At

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Speaker 3: one point had struck out sixteen out of thirty four times,

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Speaker 3: which just all over the place was it was so bad.

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Speaker 3: He went out and took batting practice to try to

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Speaker 3: get it back going. And because he was so off kilter,

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Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman hasn't been the same. Mookie's been the only

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Speaker 3: guy probably hitting for them, but their lineup has been sketchy,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: score enough runs to beat the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 7: Give me a quick prediction before we let's go.

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Speaker 3: I want to say the Blue Jays in five. You

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna stay Blue Jays in five. The

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Speaker 3: Dodgers win one game and that's it, and you know

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Speaker 3: what that means. It'll mean that again. The last time

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Speaker 3: a National League team won back to back world series

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Speaker 3: will remain as Cincinnati Reds in nineteen seventy five and

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 2: That's how long.

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Speaker 7: It's been interesting, Rob, thanks so much, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, h Steve, Thank you buddy. In the words

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Speaker 3: of New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking

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Speaker 3: you for your time this time until next time, Parker out.

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Speaker 2: He can't get it.

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Speaker 3: This could be an inside the Parker.

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Speaker 4: See you next week, same bat time, same Matt station.