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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome into the start of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody all across the country,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being here with us. A racked and

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Speaker 1: stacked day. We've got Stacy Abraham's apologizing for not a

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Speaker 1: maskless photo, but maskless photos. Big hat tip to the

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Speaker 1: excellent website OutKick dot com for breaking the story. Clay,

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Speaker 1: your team high fives all around on that one. We've

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Speaker 1: also got New York State rolling back the indoor mask

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Speaker 1: mandate but not the schoolmask mandate, and the CDC. The

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Speaker 1: breaking news here is they're still recommending masking and high

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Speaker 1: transmission areas. Why is this such a fight at this point?

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Speaker 1: Cases are down and we asked that rhetorically. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we'll tell you why. We're gonna get into why the

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Speaker 1: cases are down almost fifty percent last weeks. Been an

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Speaker 1: enormous change in the COVID positivity rate, right, and the

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Speaker 1: COVID rate of spread, of hospitalization everything. It's obviously just

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. It's the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: and they're acting like this is because or we are

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Speaker 1: in a situation where We should be thanking the Fauciites

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Speaker 1: and the people around us for what they have done here,

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Speaker 1: for the situation of the lockdowns, the mandates, the vaccine passports,

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Speaker 1: all of it, and if anything else. You have to

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Speaker 1: remember they're going to try to tell you that they

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Speaker 1: did everything right and that everything that they're doing is

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Speaker 1: right and will continue to be. And Clay, what I

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Speaker 1: want to say is I refuse to allow this. I

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Speaker 1: refuse to let them act like the science change. We

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Speaker 1: found out new stuff. We did everything that we were

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. That the promises they made about stopping

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Speaker 1: the spread transmission of the virus that masks work. This

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Speaker 1: is a hill I will gladly die on unmasked. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. It didn't work, and they're crazy. Well, this

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Speaker 1: is significant, right. We need consequences for public policy failures.

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Speaker 1: We need to know that there are issues when you're

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Speaker 1: totally wrong, whether it's defund the police, which basically no

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Speaker 1: one in America now is even arguing they were ever

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Speaker 1: in favor of buck Like. You can't even find the

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Speaker 1: Democrat now who says defund the police is a good idea.

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Speaker 1: That's after everyone was arguing for basically six months defund

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Speaker 1: the police was the way to go. I think there's

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Speaker 1: one just I think on Fox News this morning who

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Speaker 1: was it just just to be fair Clay, I think

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Speaker 1: there's literally Corey Busch. Good Corey Bush, she's still arguing

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Speaker 1: in favor of it as of this morning, is refusing.

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Speaker 1: This is on Fox news dot Com, refusing to back

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Speaker 1: away from defund the police. This was their main which

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Speaker 1: is what I was thinking about. It is one. There

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Speaker 1: is at least one Democrat who is still and you

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Speaker 1: know what, I actually have more respect for core I

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Speaker 1: didn't have much respect for Corey Bush in the first place,

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Speaker 1: because she was, if I remember correctly, uh one one

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Speaker 1: of the women who was sleeping on the steps of

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Speaker 1: the Capitol to get an unconstitutional addiction moratorium. But she

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Speaker 1: also spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on her own

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Speaker 1: private security while arguing that police needed to be defundc's

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Speaker 1: important play. Yes, But but at least she's sticking to

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Speaker 1: her guns, so to speak, on this one. But there

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Speaker 1: need to be for everybody out there. Doctor Lena win Buck,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday. When I saw her CNN hit,

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Speaker 1: my jaw dropped. It's rare that I see an opinion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a woman who a few weeks

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Speaker 1: ago was saying, every kid needs to be mandatory vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: you need to have domestic travel restrictions for the unvaccinated,

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Speaker 1: you need to have medical grade masks on every kid

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Speaker 1: in school. And suddenly she said all of that can

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Speaker 1: go away. This should be a parental decision. And it's

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Speaker 1: as if what she said before never existed. And this

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Speaker 1: is where I think we need to keep hammering this

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Speaker 1: for everybody out there. No, you can't suddenly just pivot

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is, did you see what Lena

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Speaker 1: Wynn tweeted? I mean, this is this is wild Buck.

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Speaker 1: She said before there were two camps four and against

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Speaker 1: pandemic restrictions. This is just what she tweeted yesterday. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a third pro restrictions earlier, but recognizing it's a

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Speaker 1: different time now, this group wants to move on from

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Speaker 1: vitriol and divisiveness to nuance and compromise. This is her

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Speaker 1: Washington Post opinion piece. I'm saying, wait a minute, we

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Speaker 1: have been the new wants group. Buck, You and I

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Speaker 1: have been arguing, look at the data for years address

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Speaker 1: elderly people. We say this on the show. How many

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Speaker 1: times we told our own parents, get the COVID shot,

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Speaker 1: get the booster you're over seventy five years old. We're

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Speaker 1: telling our audience out there, Hey, if you're morbidly obese

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Speaker 1: like Stacy Abrams, you probably should get the COVID shot. Right.

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Speaker 1: If you are in ill health, you probably should get it.

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Speaker 1: But my seven year old doesn't need to be treated

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Speaker 1: the same as my seventy five plus year old parents.

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Speaker 1: This is a different world, That's what we've been arguing.

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, these scientists can't say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're the nuanced group. No, no, no, you were wrong.

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Speaker 1: We were right, and there need to be consequences politically

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Speaker 1: for your wrongness. And the one place where they're really

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Speaker 1: have the least data to support them, but where clearly

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Speaker 1: there's an emotional component of this, and that's on the

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Speaker 1: situation of kids. Why are we sitting here talking I'm obvious,

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Speaker 1: I don't even have kids. Clay's got school aged children's

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Speaker 1: this affects him more directly than it does me. But

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Speaker 1: why are we sitting here trying to fight that fight,

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Speaker 1: because they're now claiming that they're going to continue with

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Speaker 1: the masking of children in New York at least for weeks,

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Speaker 1: They are neurotics and they are hysterical. This is the

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Speaker 1: problem we're facing now, and they're sacrificing children because they're

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Speaker 1: And they have really trained themselves, I mean psychologically, emotionally.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat Party has viewed this entire COVID restriction regime

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Speaker 1: as a function of whether or not they're good people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you still have James Carville, for example, Remember

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Speaker 1: how I said to you this is all about creating.

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Speaker 1: to fail, clay to fill that emotional hole that people

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Speaker 1: James Carville saying he wants to punch him in the face.

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Speaker 1: I wish you'd do is pass a lot to make

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Speaker 1: unvaccinated person right in the faces, which I'd really like

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you're a girl and you're

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what the date is right, because if there

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay walking around New York City. There are

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Speaker 1: The lesson of what we're seeing right now, for me,

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Speaker 1: That's not just trevorone's saying that now, and it's accurate,

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Speaker 1: but that's not just about what's going on now. That

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Speaker 1: to the consequences of disparate impact, which is why everybody's

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Speaker 1: backing off of law enforcement, because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: have a disparate impact on minorities. When you back off

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Speaker 1: on law enforcement to avoid a disparate impact on minority criminals,

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Speaker 1: the first people who suffer are the law abiding minority victims.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Heather McDonald, author of the book the best

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Speaker 1: selling book The War on Cops, Heather, is the pivot

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Speaker 1: happening now because one of the big things we're discussing

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Speaker 1: today on the show is not just the move away

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Speaker 1: from masks and various mandates. Because there's an election looming

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Speaker 1: and more and more people are realizing how stupid and

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Speaker 1: pointless a lot of this stuff was. Is that happening

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Speaker 1: in a different way or on a different subject when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the soft on crime policies. I mean

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the handing out of free crack pipes that's

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Speaker 1: going on. But you do have brag the DA in

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Speaker 1: New York coming under a lot of heat for his

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Speaker 1: just seemingly insane statement on who he will and won't prosecute.

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Speaker 1: Cops are getting refunded, if you will, in places like

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Speaker 1: Austin and other jurisdictions, other cities where they were defunded

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Speaker 1: in the past. Is the pivot happening or are there

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Speaker 1: places that are still holding out against it? Oh, there's

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Speaker 1: many places still holding out. And here's what to look

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Speaker 1: for when if we go back to enforcing the law.

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Speaker 1: It will have a disparate impact because black crime rates

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Speaker 1: are astronomically higher. They're about thirteen times higher homicide rate

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Speaker 1: for blacks than for whites. So when you enforce the

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Speaker 1: law against shootings, Blacks in New York City commit about

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of all shooting, though they're they're twenty

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Speaker 1: three percent of the population. A black New Yorkers is

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Speaker 1: fifty times more likely of commissioning in the white New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: If we go back to enforcing the law, we will

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Speaker 1: have a disparate impact on criminals, and the majority of

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Speaker 1: those criminals are black. If if Eric Adams, the mayor

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Speaker 1: of New York, backs down under the ACLU pressure, which

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Speaker 1: will happen. And he's already said that he wants to

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Speaker 1: collect racial data on judges to see if they are

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Speaker 1: setting higher bail or holding violent offenders rather than letting

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Speaker 1: them loose on the streets at a higher rate for blacks.

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Speaker 1: That's going to set off alarm bills. I'm I'm yet

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Speaker 1: to be persuaded that the longstanding race narrative that says

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Speaker 1: that every aspect in American society that is racially disproportionate

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Speaker 1: as a result of racism has been dislodged. It is

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Speaker 1: going to take people standing up and saying there are

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Speaker 1: other explanations to ongoing racial disparities and racism. Yes, this

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Speaker 1: is a country that had a terrible history, and that

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Speaker 1: history lasted very recently. In the sixties and seventies, even

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Speaker 1: in the North, blacks were still being treated with contempt.

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Speaker 1: But we are a changed country right now. The reality

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Speaker 1: is black privilege, not white privilege. There's not a single

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Speaker 1: institution that is not bending over backwards to hire and

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Speaker 1: promote as many blacks as possible. The criminal justice system

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Speaker 1: has nothing to apologize for, and we have to combat

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Speaker 1: the leftist narrative that says, here's a racial disparity. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's not thirteen percent blacks in Google. That's because of

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Speaker 1: racism and discrimination against black engineers. No, it's because of

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Speaker 1: an academic skills gap, culture gap, whatever. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: hold I'm going to hope. I'm going to hope that

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Speaker 1: we've turned the corner on this, but I tell you

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Speaker 1: it's a hard haul because the academy and the democratic

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Speaker 1: establishment still remains at it to the phony racism narrative.

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Speaker 1: Heather quickly here. You had a stat that I was

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Speaker 1: trying to reference earlier this week, the percentage chance that

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Speaker 1: a police officer is shot by a black person versus

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Speaker 1: the chances that they shoot a black person. It was

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Speaker 1: something like eighteen thousand more. What is that stat do

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Speaker 1: you remember in your book specifically? Because yeah, currently last

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Speaker 1: year there were four unarmed blacks. I'd say allegedly unarmed,

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Speaker 1: because that's the Washington Post database, and they classify people

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Speaker 1: that are trying to grab an officer's gun as unarmed.

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Speaker 1: There were four unarmed blacks shot by the police out

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Speaker 1: of a population of between forty four forty seven million.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the number of police officers who

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Speaker 1: were killed last year, which is seventy three and you

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Speaker 1: do a per capita comparison, and you've take into account

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Speaker 1: the historical rate at which blacks have shot police officers fatally,

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Speaker 1: which is about forty two percent of all cop killers

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Speaker 1: are black. I'm sorry, there's a lot of numbers that throughout.

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Speaker 1: The bottom is a police officer is four hundred times

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Speaker 1: as likely to be killed by a black criminal as

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Speaker 1: an unarmed black person is to be killed by a

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Speaker 1: police officer. So the narrative again, as we know, as

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Speaker 1: you guys keeps pressing home Buck and Clay, is completely false.

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Speaker 1: And you know the other thing that one needs to

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Speaker 1: be saved that the libertarian left and the libertarians left

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Speaker 1: always say, oh, it's so safe to be a police officer,

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Speaker 1: you know, nothing to worry about. These guys have it

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Speaker 1: really easy. Well, again, let's look at the rate of

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Speaker 1: deaths a police police officers or a thousand times as

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Speaker 1: likely to be killed last year as blacks were by

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Speaker 1: police officers. So if it's safe to be a police

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Speaker 1: officer and you're a thousand times more likely to be killed,

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Speaker 1: then an unarmed black is let's, for heaven's sakes acknowledge.

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Speaker 1: Contrary to what Biden tells black parents all the time

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Speaker 1: that as far as the police go, it is very,

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Speaker 1: very safe to be black. Who should we be worried

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Speaker 1: about these insane teen thugs who are going around spraying

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Speaker 1: bullets across city streets, taking down one year olds, three

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Speaker 1: year olds, four year olds. Last year in Chicago alone,

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Speaker 1: there was a one month old girl shot in the head,

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Speaker 1: a four year old boy shot twice in the head,

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Speaker 1: a six year old girl shot in the head, seven

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Speaker 1: year old girl shot in the head, nine year old

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Speaker 1: girl shot in the head. They're not shot by the cops.

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Speaker 1: They're shot by thugs, and those thugs should be off

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Speaker 1: the streets and in prison, no matter their race, no

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Speaker 1: matter their age. Heather McDonald, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: this time. Thank you for the work that you have

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Speaker 1: in Lake, Travis Buck Sexton shows, So Buck, the Party

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Speaker 1: of Science, as we have established, not really the party

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Speaker 1: of science when you actually look at data. News came

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Speaker 1: down yesterday three year men's swimmer who decides to become

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Speaker 1: a woman and is now prepared to become the greatest

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Speaker 1: women's swimmer of all time University of Pennsylvania swimmer. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard this story, it's probably because most sports

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Speaker 1: media haven't covered it other than OutKick. This is crazy, Buck.

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Speaker 1: The IVY League has said this transgender swimmer is eligible

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Speaker 1: to compete in the IVY League championships. And now there

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not even making this up. The all time

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Speaker 1: greatest swimmer in the history of college athletics for women

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Speaker 1: is going to be a man who decided to become

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Speaker 1: a woman. At what year in the past would you

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Speaker 1: have to go to say that and everyone not immediately

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Speaker 1: erupt in laughter thinking it was satire? I mean even

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Speaker 1: as recently as two thousand and eight, two ten, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you remember the movie Juwanna Man with the Wayne's Brothers,

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Speaker 1: where the idea was this dude was going to pretend

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Speaker 1: to be a girl and become the greatest w NBA

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Speaker 1: player of all time. It was played for laughs. That

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Speaker 1: was the satire of oh, there's no way this could

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Speaker 1: ever happen. And now in theory, this is a legitimate

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Speaker 1: thing that threatens to destroy all of women's athletics. If

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Speaker 1: you can just decide what your gender is, and after

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Speaker 1: you've already been a successful male athlete, you can become

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Speaker 1: a woman, there's no point in women's athletics. This was

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Speaker 1: actually an early tip off in many ways about where

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Speaker 1: we were heading pre COVID, you know, before the whole

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Speaker 1: COVID pandemic happened, because the Blue check mds, they're the

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Speaker 1: same ones that appeared to say during lockdowns, well, we

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Speaker 1: don't want anyone gathering except for BLM protests because those

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Speaker 1: are like really important. Though that that same mentality has existed,

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Speaker 1: you've seen this with what you could consider the Blue

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Speaker 1: check activist mds on the issue of transgender rights. They

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Speaker 1: will go they will go out publicly and go into

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Speaker 1: all this babble about how, oh, but gender is different

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Speaker 1: from sex and gender identity. They create all this language

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Speaker 1: to try to obscure the fact that these are men

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Speaker 1: who are biological men. This is an objective, scientific reality.

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Speaker 1: They have xy chromozone all over in every cell in

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Speaker 1: their bodies, and they act like this is not something

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Speaker 1: that is observable and distinct and important. And you just

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Speaker 1: you after wonder after a while why they want to

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Speaker 1: push this so hard. I really believe there's there's two things. One,

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Speaker 1: they need a new The Left needs a new civil

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Speaker 1: rights struggle, a new cause. Now they get to pretend

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Speaker 1: to be the heroes. I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 1: not a civil rights struggle. This is the Left acting

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Speaker 1: like a bunch of lunatics. Okay, that's one part of it.

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Speaker 1: The other part of it, you know, on transgender competition

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Speaker 1: in sports, we all understand this is wrong. The other

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Speaker 1: part of it, though, Clay, is that if they can

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Speaker 1: get you to say that a man is a woman

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Speaker 1: and a woman is a man, what can't they get

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Speaker 1: you to say? They'll they'll debase your your ability to reason.

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Speaker 1: And what's wild about this is we have weight classes

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Speaker 1: for boxing. We have different divisions for sports. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: in high school, based on whether you go to a

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Speaker 1: big school or a small school five A, one A,

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Speaker 1: however it's classified in your state. We have different gradations

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Speaker 1: of competition based on age. Yet this situation is taking

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Speaker 1: over women's athletics, and you're going to have in the

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Speaker 1: record books the greatest women swimmer of all time is

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Speaker 1: going to be a dude. People out there on the

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Speaker 1: left are either pretending this story isn't happening, or they

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Speaker 1: are welcoming it as if it is some sign of equality.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we just need to eliminate men's and women's athletics

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Speaker 1: in general and go back one hundred percent to the

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Speaker 1: days when only men won competitions, because women would never

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Speaker 1: win anything if we had un sex competitions. But there's

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Speaker 1: a very importan announcement that we should have to make

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Speaker 1: to everybody about the data when it comes to children

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Speaker 1: at COVID. According to the View, the announcement is, of

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Speaker 1: course that apparently people at the View don't actually read

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Speaker 1: anything about COVID statistics, have no idea what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But I know you're gonna walk us through this in

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Yeah, this is next level dumb,

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Speaker 1: even for the View. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on

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Speaker 1: the front lines of truth