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Speaker 1: Play. His fundamentals were exquisite. There you go. I thought

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Speaker 2: Sigma Saturday Colon.

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Speaker 1: Secure the Rebound. How do I spell that?

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Speaker 3: What that Sigma player?

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Speaker 1: His fundamentals were exquisite? Did you just tell me how

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Speaker 1: Saturday, Secure the rebound. You heard it here first on

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Speaker 1: Welcome one, Welcome all. We have many games to discuss.

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Speaker 1: As I said, go back on the Tuesday episode if

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Speaker 1: Dan Bullywoh, we didn't even give a recap of the

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Speaker 1: I like Georgia Tech, I like the rest advantage. I

433
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Speaker 1: like the fact that Duke can run on them, and

434
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Speaker 1: I like the fact that at least it seems, based

435
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Speaker 1: on the metrics that I've been looking at, like they've

436
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Speaker 1: been playing pretty well. I got it at thirty twenty seven. Duke,

437
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Speaker 1: give me the Dukies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, urg Attack is running the ball

439
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: reasonably well. It's going to be very difficult for Duke

440
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Speaker 2: because that's not like I mentioned that they have been

441
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Speaker 2: running the ball and sorry, Duke has stopped the run.

442
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Speaker 2: They do give up some big runs, yes they do.

443
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Speaker 2: That's the big thing, and it's what Hoseley is stepping

444
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Speaker 2: up alongside Jamal Haynes for Georgia Tech. Obviously we know

445
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Speaker 2: what Haines King can do, but that that would be

446
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Speaker 2: the concern that there has been some wide open lanes

447
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Speaker 2: against this Georgia excuse me, against this Duke team otherwise though,

448
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Speaker 2: I think Duke is just too solid at home, and

449
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Speaker 2: I think they match up really well.

450
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Speaker 1: Let's stay at high noon and let's go to LSU

451
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Speaker 1: at Vandy one on ABC. LSU's number ten, Vandy's number seventeen.

452
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Speaker 1: Vandy is favored by three. Yeah. I went back and

453
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: looked deep into the annals of this matchup. You've got

454
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Speaker 1: to go back thirty five years to find the last

455
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Speaker 1: time that Vanderbilt beat LSU was back in nineteen ninety.

456
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Speaker 1: I also searched a couple databases, all the ones I

457
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Speaker 1: could find, to if I could find the time in

458
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Speaker 1: which Vanderbilt was favored. Yes, if they have been favored,

459
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Speaker 1: it was before they started making any of these databases,

460
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Speaker 1: because I could not find it.

461
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Speaker 2: I actually think I saw for the I want to

462
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Speaker 2: say it was Cole Cubuk who highlighted this. It was

463
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Speaker 2: like forty four years was the last time Vanderbilt has

464
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Speaker 2: been favored against a ranked team.

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Speaker 1: Against a ranked team? Okay, okay, yeah, or.

466
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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah it will say, well this says in fist time,

467
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Speaker 2: which is a whole different conversation. In first time favored

468
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Speaker 2: versus ranked foe, number seventeen Vandy ranked ready for number

469
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Speaker 2: seven for number ten LSU, So maybe it's first time ever.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy, And what's even crazier to me

471
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Speaker 1: is kind of like the cognitive dissonance that is required

472
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Speaker 1: to properly analyze LSU at this point. Because you and

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Speaker 1: I watch all the games, whether it's live, whether it's

474
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Speaker 1: after the fact, we both have all the numbers. I

475
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Speaker 1: tend to rely on the stats a lot this time

476
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Speaker 1: of year because I'm a romantic Dan. I see somebody

477
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Speaker 1: on tape, I like them, you know, I develop a

478
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Speaker 1: relationship with that person, if only when it comes to

479
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Speaker 1: picking games. I'm very easily influenced. So you're a romantic.

480
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Speaker 1: I look at the stats, probably a little too much

481
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Speaker 1: this time of year. I am throwing the stats out

482
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Speaker 1: the window for this po.

483
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Speaker 2: The sound play, the sound I don't have it at

484
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Speaker 2: the ready somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I'll pull it up here. Okay, well, before we get

486
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Speaker 1: done with our little tangent, I can pull that up.

487
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Speaker 1: But for this game especially, I threw the stats out

488
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Speaker 1: with LSU, and I just went back and I rewatched

489
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Speaker 1: as many LSU games as I could find from this season. Okay,

490
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Speaker 1: you were on this a while back, I give you

491
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Speaker 1: credit for it. You were the one who warned me

492
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Speaker 1: about this. But LSU does not look right on offense.

493
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Speaker 1: They don't look right, man, they don't. And for a

494
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Speaker 1: while it was fine to just sort of paint it

495
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Speaker 1: as well. Look, their schedule has been brutal, and it

496
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Speaker 1: has been brutal. It's been a very tough schedule. But

497
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Speaker 1: beyond that, Garrett Nussmeyer doesn't look good. And I don't

498
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Speaker 1: know if it's just supporting cast offensive line kind of

499
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Speaker 1: injured like whatever. It's probably a whole multitude of things

500
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Speaker 1: with him, but he doesn't look good. They cannot run

501
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Speaker 1: the ball, despite what Brian Kelly told a reporter angrily

502
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Speaker 1: upon being back. I know he walked it back, but whatever,

503
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball with any kind of consistency.

504
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Speaker 1: And weirdly, it is just such a one eighty that

505
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Speaker 1: we have turned now with LSU. Talk about putting your

506
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Speaker 1: mind in a pretzel that the defense is now carrying

507
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Speaker 1: the load. Mm hmm. Again, you can chalk up some

508
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Speaker 1: of this to a tougher schedule. I get that, but dog,

509
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Speaker 1: we're halfway through the year. At this point. You kind

510
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Speaker 1: of are what you are, right.

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Speaker 2: I think so yes, by and large, unless there's some

512
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Speaker 2: sort of crippling injury that you're working back from.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, So the big problem for LSU moving forward

514
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: and like zoom out at that thirty thousand feet beyond

515
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: this game, the schedule does not get easier. Okay, now

516
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Speaker 1: this week will be tough in its own right. We're

517
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Speaker 1: going to talk about that. But they still got A

518
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Speaker 1: and M. They're on the road at Bama, They're on

519
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: the road at Oklahoma, so they got to figure this out. Otherwise,

520
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Speaker 1: I have no idea which direction this season is going

521
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Speaker 1: to go. My takeaway after watching so much LSU over

522
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours is exactly what I said

523
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. It something is not right. The

524
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: offense doesn't feel like it's clicking. And I have a

525
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: really hard time backing that side of this when I

526
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Speaker 1: know they're going into a setting like Vanderbilt where they're

527
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Speaker 1: going to be I shouldn't say upset minded because they're favored. Again,

528
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Speaker 1: this is a duke situation, right, But at the same time,

529
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Speaker 1: beating LSU symbolically would be a very, very big deal

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Speaker 1: for this team. Agree, So I'm having a real hard

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Speaker 1: time back in LSU.

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Speaker 2: Here, I think that's reasonable. I'm taking Vanderbilt to me,

533
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: it's a math problem too, right, you need to score

534
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: twenty one points to beat LSU. LSU's defense makes that difficult.

535
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Speaker 2: And that's great for LSU. But the game is in

536
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Speaker 2: Vandy with a week off. This is going to be

537
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Speaker 2: an electric atmosphere relative to Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt's.

538
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Speaker 1: Just a pain.

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Speaker 2: We saw them struggle at times, obviously against Alabama a

540
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, but that was in Tuscaloosa. And I

541
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Speaker 2: think we watch LSU, and this is to your point

542
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: and two things we've talked about that you watch Garrettnusmyern.

543
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: I think he's got a little bit more zip on

544
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Speaker 2: his passes than he's had earlier on in the season.

545
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: It looks like physically is maybe turning a corner from

546
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: all of his whatever malady he may have.

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know. They were talking about hips.

548
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: I want to say, have been sore torso was Brian

549
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: Kelly's word. I just I don't trust this offensive line.

550
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: The receivers are by and large good, but beat up.

551
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: You watch trade Es Green the tight end for LSU,

552
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: and you think, how could anybody ever come this dude.

553
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: This dude is legit incredible, and yet the offense is

554
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: not like they can't use the gravity Like he looks

555
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: like a power forward. It looks like they are playing

556
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Speaker 2: take Jack Sikmack Saturday, thank you, thank you very much.

557
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Who is a center, not a power forward. But yeah,

558
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: he just looks unguardable at his best. And they can't

559
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: find a way to consistently move the ball and succeed

560
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: in the red zone. And something always just kind of

561
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: goes wrong. They always have two out of three things

562
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: working well. Receivers and quarterback are in sync. The offensive

563
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: line is terrible, take your pick, and I'm just not

564
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Speaker 2: with that on the road. Not that Vanderbilt is the

565
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: most impossible place to play in the SEC, but I

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Speaker 2: think with the way Vanderbilt plays add or near its best,

567
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: they'll be able to move the ball enough, not a ton,

568
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Speaker 2: but enough to win this game twenty three to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Vandy's a better team right now, honestly,

570
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Speaker 1: and to your point, this is something that we talked

571
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Speaker 1: about on the bonus episode that we did a couple

572
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. You can go back on Forballers dot Com

573
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Speaker 1: and listen to the Vandy deep dive. But there is

574
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Speaker 1: a question here of what the play style is going

575
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Speaker 1: to do to LSU. I think it's going to put

576
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: them in a box because they play slow. The whole

577
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: thing is built around efficiency. They are third than the

578
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Speaker 1: nation in points per drive on offense one hundred and

579
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Speaker 1: twenty third in plays per game. So they play slow,

580
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Speaker 1: but they play efficiently and they get the most out

581
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Speaker 1: of every drive. That is how they are built. They

582
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: are going to eat the clock. They're going to force

583
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Speaker 1: LSU to try and get the most out of every play,

584
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Speaker 1: and I think that poses a real problem here. So

585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: for me, I actually think that number is right on

586
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Speaker 1: the money. The three a Vandy minus three. I think

587
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: it's something like twenty four to twenty one. But I

588
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: got Vandy here. I think it's going to be a

589
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: lower scoring game. I think they're going to play exactly

590
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: the way they have played all year. It's going to

591
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: be slow, it is going to be as raucous in

592
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: environment as you get in Nashville for a game like this.

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Speaker 1: I like Vandy. I think they're better. By the way.

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Speaker 2: That twenty one number that you just mentioned with LSU

595
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: would be the highest number that they would have reached

596
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: by this point. Yeah, against a power for opponent, crazy one,

597
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. It's been a full on failure of an

598
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: offensive year for LSU. Let's stay in that early block.

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Okay twelve forty five kickoff because the SEC network likes

600
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: to be a little bit different. It is number fourteen

601
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma on the road at South Carolina. Oklahoma is a

602
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: five and a half point road favorite. John Mattier said

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Speaker 1: this week that he is quote a full go for

604
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Speaker 1: the game, that he felt good health wise, at least

605
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: after the Red River Rivalry. The bad news is that

606
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: this offense scored six points in the Red River Rivalry

607
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: a week ago. Looking back against better teams so far

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Speaker 1: this season and included in that, I would say Michigan,

609
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Auburn obviously Texas, Oklahoma's offense is not exactly set the

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Speaker 1: world on fire. I don't think are going to lose

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00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: this week, but there are games on the schedule coming

612
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Speaker 1: up against Old Miss Tennessee, Alabama, MISSOO LSU. A lot

613
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Speaker 1: of good defense is going to be on this schedule

614
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: moving forward. So what I would advise all my clients

615
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Monday mornings, sell your Oklahoma stocks. I think we get

616
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: a win today or win this week? Not today, Yeah,

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00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: I think we get a win this week on Saturday,

618
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and then moving forward with the defenses that remain. I

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Speaker 1: would not be on Oklahoma for any of those games.

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00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Win? But I'm just I'm not feeling

621
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the offense against any of those squads.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember who Paul de Podesta is was? Of

623
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Speaker 2: course it's a Paul executive, of course that I do know. Yes, okay,

624
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: not Jack Sigma, but Paul D. Podesta.

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Speaker 1: I do know.

626
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Speaker 2: PAULA What a screwy sports brain you have. So he

627
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: had a quote when he was helping to run the

628
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns that what he tells his owners. In this case,

629
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: it was Jimmy Haslam is you have to have the

630
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: stomach to ride the roller coaster.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, a baseball guy who was

632
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: hired by the Browns, which also explains something if we

633
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: want to totally true.

634
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Speaker 2: But I think the point remains that if you're going

635
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: to go with a specific vision, you gotta ride the

636
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: vision in good times and bad. And my vision, of

637
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: course is home dog, quality defense, good defense, whatever you

638
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: want to call it. Racus crowd Again as an underdog,

639
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: this one pushed me.

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Speaker 1: Ti.

641
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: This one really pushed me. With South Carolina as a

642
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: home dog here against Oklahoma. Oklahoma has the clear better

643
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: defense in this matchup, but also Oklahoma's offense is very

644
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: quietly garbage at least when John Mattier is beat up

645
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: and going on the road. You know, I have a

646
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: soft spot for Williams Brice here. Don't do this, Dan

647
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Speaker 2: any year. Don't do this.

648
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: I warned you with the Auburn Georgia game a week ago.

649
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: Do not do this again.

650
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: I would pick Auburn again, Tye. I would pick Auburn

651
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: a hundred times out of one hundred times to win

652
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: that game.

653
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Don't do this to yourself.

654
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: South Carolina's going to win this game. Fourteen thirteen. I'm

655
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: not locking it up. I'm not crazy.

656
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Fourteen thirteen.

657
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: Good hell, fourteen thirteen an absolute rock fight. At least

658
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: one ejection in this game. That would be fun, depending on.

659
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: What it's for. Depending, Yeah, we should qualify.

660
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: At least one COMMS truck being taken out on the sideline.

661
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Is Joey Aguilar in this game? You never know, Okay,

662
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: he is everywhere. He's omnipresent.

663
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to take South Carolina here, I'm going

664
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: to take South Carolina. I think Oklahoma traveling across not

665
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: the whole country, but it's a sizable road trip. I

666
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: don't think South Carolina is good, but I don't think

667
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: they're irredeemably awful. So I'm going to go South Carolina

668
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: to will forward and ugly win against Oklahoma fourteen thirteen.

669
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this would be a Coctober miracle, is what.

670
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: This would be. A Coctober maria, a true Coctober surprise.

671
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: We warned you about October since August. That's why I

672
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: bought the domain m hm LSU last week for South

673
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Carolina Oklahoma. This week they got Alabama. Next they're at

674
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: Old Miss the first of Tievember, which is what we're

675
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: going to call that. Now. You could make a legit

676
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: case that this is a four and eight South Carolina

677
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: team after this season, but apparently Dan Rubisteed is not

678
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: feeling it because you've got a big time upset here.

679
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: This would be a huge deal, huge fourteen thirteen. Neither

680
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: team can run the ball.

681
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: No, South Carolina is merely bad, whereas Oklahoma is abysmal.

682
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: I think this is interesting matchup because again, neither team

683
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: can run. The problem is that I don't think South

684
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Carolina can really pass either.

685
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: No, they changed their offensive line coach. Maybe there's some

686
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: new ideas.

687
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Like their overall success rate on offense is one hundred

688
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: and nineteenth in the nation. Totally true. They're heavily penalized.

689
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Their red zone offense has been a disaster to my eye.

690
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: It does not seem like a great formula against an

691
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma team that has basically been a brick wall on defense.

692
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: So they need to create offense out of nothing, right,

693
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: South Carolina?

694
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: They do? They would What do we call their quarterback?

695
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: We do call them Lenoris the Creator. That's exactly right.

696
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: So you're thinking this is a Leonoris the Creator Coctober surprise. Correct,

697
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: I've got this at twenty seven to seventeen Oklahoma. You've

698
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: got it at fourteen thirteen in favor of South Carolina

699
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: at home. Confirmed. Wow, Okay, we disagree. Let's move on.

700
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this one at four pm on Fox.

701
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm ready number seven Texas Tech on the road at

702
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Arizona State in eight and a half point

703
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: home dog. Dan got some real quarterback injury questions coming

704
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: into this one. Sam Levitt did not play a week

705
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: ago for ASU. It was a Jeff Simms game. Jeff

706
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: Sims game. YadA, YadA, YadA. They lost by thirty two.

707
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Just YadA, YadA, YadA, thirty two point loss. Damn well,

708
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: believe I did. It was a Jeff Simms game. Yes,

709
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that said Sam Levitt was getting first team reps in

710
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: practice this week. He was in the boot before. That.

711
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Looks to me like he's gonna play.

712
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: He was getting practice reps the Utah week though, as well.

713
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: I believe I can't go correct, but it sounds as

714
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: if vives are good there, so we'll see. I don't know.

715
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: And then yes, Baron Morton did pick up a knock

716
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: last week. This time it's his right ankle. X Ray's MRIs.

717
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: Everything's negative. Joey Maguire says, he's day to day. I

718
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: know that's surprising to you to hear that Baron Morton

719
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: is hurt. I know.

720
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I wrote it down on the legal pad just to

721
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: remember it happened so infrequently.

722
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Texas Tech's been awesome this year. They are six and

723
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: zero against the point spread. They have not been in

724
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: a close game yet. Let's say, with like five minutes left, right,

725
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: we just haven't they've killed everybody. Yeah. Meanwhile, the opposite

726
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: has sort of been true for ASU, at least against

727
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Power four team. Right, it's been a close win or

728
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: a close loss, or the Jeff Simms game from last week,

729
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: which we're not going to count as part of this

730
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: because it ruins my argument. But two teams that I

731
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: think are diametrically opposed in more ways than one. Who

732
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: do you got? I don't know. I don't know. What

733
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: are you supposed to? How you supposed to pick this game?

734
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why. That's why I threw it

735
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: to you first.

736
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: You gotta say, like, oh, well, if Sam Levitt's playing,

737
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be pretty beat up.

738
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: Let's assume that he's playing. Let's assume that he's playing.

739
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham said this, all right. I was reading the

740
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: record earlier. Kenny Dillingham said he was out there, he's

741
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: taken practice with the ones. He looked much more himself.

742
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: That was the quote, Yeah, I great, whatever that means

743
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: to you, that's what he said.

744
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So I believe his winning streak at home continues. Right,

745
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt hasn't lost a game as a starter in Tempe. Okay,

746
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: I believe so, I have no idea. Okay, you can

747
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: fact check me on that.

748
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I believe you.

749
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: The best of Sam Levitt, though, is Sam Levitt who

750
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 2: kind of throws himself around, right. He's not somebody who

751
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: is sort of a statue picking up. He's not Rudy Carpenter,

752
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: you know, shout out Rudy Carpenter. Wherever Heler, Yeah, Sam Keller,

753
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: take your pick of legendary Arizona State Cement quarterback.

754
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: They're all the same quarterback. The only difference is Ostweiler

755
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: was six to seven.

756
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rest were six to five. So he's physical,

757
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: he's a dual threat. He makes plays, he improvises. I

758
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: just don't know what you can do if you're in

759
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: a walking boot every so often and suddenly have to

760
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: play and do that against the Texas Tech defense. That's

761
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: concerning to me. As much as I like Arizona State's

762
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: home field advantage in this spot, and this is a

763
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: second no no. Texas Tech was at home against Kansas correct, correct, Yeah, yeah,

764
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: so not a second straight road game, but it's gonna

765
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: it's a tough road spot for Texas Tech. But they

766
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: have been road tested with their win over Utah, and

767
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: ASU is not emphatic even when they win. There's just

768
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: something off about ASU as a pronounced pronounce pronounced victor

769
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: this year.

770
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: And so.

771
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm taking Texas Tech. I don't love it. I don't

772
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: love it because of the quarterback injuries. But after last week,

773
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: if we see a limited or don't even see Sam

774
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Levit at all, I think Texas Tech is just I'm

775
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: going to ride the hot hand and with how they're

776
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: getting after the passer, with how they're running the ball,

777
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: even when the quarterback is struggling like Will Hammond did

778
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: late in that game. I don't know it's a big number,

779
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: but if you're telling me there's a possibility that this

780
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: is a Jeff Simms offense, my shoulders get a little

781
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: bit more relaxed in picking Texas Tech. So I'm gonna

782
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: go go with that pick. But I have no concept

783
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: for which quarterback will play and how healthy they will

784
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: or won't be.

785
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, this is a perfect setup for me.

786
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. I could not have asked for a better setup.

787
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: We don't script this show. We just have bullet points

788
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: at best, right Yep. What I wrote down though, was

789
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: with respect, specifically I'm spitting on my microphone. Excuse me

790
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: to Texas Tech love it or love it? I brought

791
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: this up in the preview way back when love it

792
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: or Love It? I happen to love Texas Tech here. Okay,

793
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I've got it at thirty five twenty one Texas Tech here.

794
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: Because you know, the quarterback injuries are going to get

795
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. But something that I think is

796
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: only now getting the attention it deserves is what Texas

797
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Tech has done on the ground and on defense. Cameron

798
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Dicky Jacoby Williams have been awesome on the ground. For me,

799
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: this has been the story of the Tech offense so

800
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: far this season. We talked all off season how they're

801
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: going to replace todaj Brooks. Right, they've replaced, They've adapted

802
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: quite well. Camera. Dicky's really good so far this season.

803
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: And on defense, obviously, they went out, they spent They

804
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: brought in a bunch of new guys from the transfer portal.

805
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: Not talking the biggest name guys at every position, but

806
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: just guys that they thought could make him better. It

807
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: was a really smart approach with how they attacked the portal.

808
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: And that also is paying dividends. Yes, it'd be really

809
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: easy to tell this like it's some sort of Cinderella

810
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: story with Texas Tech. They're not used to being here,

811
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: they're not used to being in the top ten, they

812
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: haven't finished ranked in like ever, this is not a

813
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Cinderella story. They are not a Cinderella There is an

814
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: eighty six percent chance Now, I look just before we

815
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: hit record of Texas Tech finishing with it at least

816
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: eleven wins, and if they get past Asu I got

817
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: them into playoff, you pencil him into the playoff at

818
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: that point. Sure, this is a really good team, and.

819
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: People Cinderella story, it's a Cody Campbell story. Well it's

820
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Cody Campbells story. But what Cody Campbellella.

821
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, this is a really good team. This is

822
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: probably going to be a playoff team. And if you

823
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: have not yet familiarized yourself with Texas Tech, this weekend

824
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: is a perfect opportunity. Thirty five to twenty one is

825
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: my final give me the Red Raiders.

826
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's somewhere in

827
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: that zone in my mind, I said thirty four to

828
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: twenty thirty four at seventeen somewhere there.

829
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: Let's do a few rapid fire Games. Okay, I'm ready

830
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: three thirty FS one. It is UNLV on the road

831
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: at Boise State. This is a very big Mountain West matchup.

832
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Boise State is favored by twelve and a half point. Stan.

833
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I have had so many people, so many people email

834
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: me personally. I don't know how they got my personal email.

835
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: I guess I don't hide it that well, but uh,

836
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: email me personally, send me DMS. Yeah, Dan mull into

837
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Penn State. What do I think?

838
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Oh, he came out and talked about it, right, I

839
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: believe so. Yeah, he came out and said I'm gonna

840
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: be at UNLV next year.

841
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: No. Thanks, grew up outside Philly, went to college outside Philly.

842
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Doing a very good job with UNLV this season. Let's

843
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: keep it there. I don't think I don't want them on. Okay,

844
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: I can talk about that separately, but I'll take him

845
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: as OC if he wants to come and call offense.

846
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: But UNLV deserves our attention here because they have been very,

847
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: very good this season. This game, to me feels like

848
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: a shootout. So when you say twelve and a half points,

849
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: two offenses that I think are going to be able

850
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: to score on the other opposing defense. I take the

851
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: points kind of like instinctually, inspectively, whatever the word is.

852
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm on UNLV plus the points. I do think Boise wins,

853
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: but I think this is like thirty eight thirty one

854
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood.

855
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: Really I do, Okay, I think Boise wins this game

856
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: going away, of course. I think Boise's going to win

857
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: this game by three touchdowns plus.

858
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, it's in Boise.

859
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: UNLV is coming off of a crazy fifty one to

860
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: forty eight shootout against air Force, a.

861
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Look ahead shootout to be clear against air I guess.

862
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: But if air Force is dropping damn near fifty on you,

863
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: and Boise State does a good job of scoring points

864
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: against anybody not named Notre Dame essentially since Week one

865
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: in South Florida, I just think the Boise offense is

866
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: going to be enough, and I think they're going to

867
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: just I don't know if it's a full crock potting,

868
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think, what, what's.

869
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: The number again? Twelve and a half?

870
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half. Yeah, I had three touchdowns plus.

871
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: I mean that good game.

872
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: The good news for Boise is that UNLV's defense does

873
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: have the power to create another Ashton Gent in this game.

874
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty five twenty one Broncos.

875
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be Dylan Riley or

876
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: Sire Gains either way. Yeah, un LV does not stop

877
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: the run, and Boise's probably just going to do a

878
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of that, So I understand the logic there.

879
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: But I also it's also the week after a Service Academy.

880
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. There's a little bit of bodyblow going

881
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: on here, for sure, But I just I see this

882
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: one as a back and forth shootout.

883
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: So UNLB might have the worst run defense in America.

884
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: It's bad, I know. That's what I said. They can

885
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: make the new gint this game.

886
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: So I yeah, they're just the good thing about UNLV

887
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: is they do call a good third down defense. They

888
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: have been surprisingly successful of bending and not breaking individually

889
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: on drives. But no, I'm on Boise here Big.

890
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock on the Fox Network. It is Washington on

891
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: the road at Michigan, Michigan favored by six. Yeah, I

892
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: think Washington's really good. I think there's a chance they win.

893
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: But this is a bodyclock game, right, It is a

894
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: bodyclock game. Yep, So there's a lot of travel here.

895
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: It's going to feel like nine am start time for

896
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: the Huskies. We've already seen some cross country travel, reek havoc.

897
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: Remember they went to Maryland a couple weeks ago. They

898
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: needed that comeback in order to win.

899
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Excuse you, in order to win their first big ten

900
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: road game period period.

901
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the points here. I just like Washington

902
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: probably more than I should. I don't think they win,

903
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: but I'm on Washington plus the six.

904
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I disagree, And I'm gonna pull up the exact

905
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: weather forecast, by the way, God in ann Arbor on Saturday.

906
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

907
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: There is a chance of rain, but it's just gonna

908
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: be sort of chilly football beautiful weather.

909
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: In this one.

910
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: So it's not gonna favor Michigan and what they're able

911
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: to do on the ground. Although the best of Washington

912
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: also features a pretty potent ground attack with both Demon

913
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: Williams and Jonah Coleman, Washington doesn't win this game. More

914
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: broadly speaking, they did everything they could for three full

915
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: quarters to lose that Maryland game, and to their credit,

916
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: came back and won that game. They needed to come

917
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: back to beat Rutgers, who I actually think is secretly

918
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: kind of scary. Maybe that's just the newly forget part

919
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: of my Oregon.

920
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Brat in under the radar games. Don't worry.

921
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: I understand Jetfish does not prepare his team well to

922
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: perform on the road, and you add a body clock

923
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: element to this, and I just don't like Washington. I

924
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: think this is the likely the second best offense that

925
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: or the best offense. Who knows that Michigan will have

926
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: faced up to this point, But I don't trust this

927
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: defense on the road. I think they can be pushed around.

928
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna come out with targic.

929
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Spoken like a true Oregon fan. Listen to you.

930
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Have you not watched Washington on the road, even their

931
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: win against Wazoo, So I'm not talking big ten right now.

932
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: It was a not great defensive performance for at least

933
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: three quarters of that game.

934
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Dan, have you seen the reports that Florida

935
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: might fire Billy Napier as soon as this weekend? Jetfish man,

936
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: this is his audition to get that job that he's

937
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: always wanted. Are you kidding me?

938
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: Well, then maybe he's been distracted behind the scenes interviewing.

939
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Well, that's timely possible as well. I'm inclined to take

940
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: them out right now that I know that there could

941
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: be an opening. I know he wants it. We all

942
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: wants it.

943
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: You hear that Sharp's Ty Hildenbrandt, mister constantly wrong, is

944
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: tempted to take Washington outright.

945
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, make Michigan.

946
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: I just I haven't seen Washington ever prepared under Jed Fish,

947
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: and I know they improve weekly to win this game,

948
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: this kind of game, a road game against a quality team,

949
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: especially with a body clock situation, I just think the

950
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: deck is stacked against the Huskies here. I think they're good.

951
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: I think they're clearly improved this year. I think the

952
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: offense at its best, like the second half against Rutgers

953
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: last week, was a thrill ride if you're a Washington

954
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: fan watching Demon Williams bombit downfield, take off on runs

955
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: like it was a singular performance for them at quarterback.

956
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: But I just think the spot is a little bit

957
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: too difficult and a little bit too big for how

958
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: Washington has played these these past couple of years. So

959
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to Michigan to cover this one, twenty seven

960
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: to seventeen.

961
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Also at high noon, Dan, I'm just gonna play this

962
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: Baylor at TCU. The over under is sixty six. I

963
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: might bet the over if it were like eighty six.

964
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: I have sure I don't think we're gonna see any

965
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: defense in this game. TCU is at home. They're favored

966
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: by three. I'd be lying if I said I had

967
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: a strong lean one way or the other. I think

968
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Baylor's the better team right now, do you? I guess

969
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. TCU plays no pass defense, Baylor doesn't

970
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: really play defense either, But I'm I don't know. Just

971
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: give me the points in Baylor. I have no idea.

972
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: I'd be lying, truly if I said I feel strongly

973
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: one way or the other.

974
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go TCU to barely cover this one forty five,

975
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: forty one. I think there's enough there. Playing at home,

976
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: obviously it's gonna it's always a big emotional spot this

977
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: this matchup. So I'm going TCU. You know, the defensive

978
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: issues are very real. I'm just I'm not there with

979
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: Baylor closing out this game.

980
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: Three thirty ACC Network SMU smooth on the road at Clemson.

981
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Clemson is favored by nine and one half point. Stan

982
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: Who you.

983
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: Got kid Club? Nick hurt So even if he plays.

984
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: It was some sort of like Dabo saying it's I'm

985
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: feeling pretty good that he's going to be able to

986
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: ramp up and play this game.

987
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing there.

988
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't love that. I don't love that with that number.

989
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go SMU plus the points in a

990
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: fun back and forth, not a shootout per se.

991
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

992
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Again, it depends on kid Klubnick's health, I guess, but

993
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what Clemson has done even with an

994
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: SMU team whose defense is taken a step back and

995
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: doesn't run the ball like they were able to last year.

996
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm still like twenty seven to twenty four someone.

997
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go Clemson. Okay, I think they've looked

998
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: really good the last two weeks. I'll be it against

999
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: UNC and Boston College. Correct, but it looked to me

1000
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: like after the bye week they played better. And the

1001
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: point spread is nine and a half. It's a lot,

1002
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: and so if there were real injury concerns or concerns

1003
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: otherwise about Clemson's ability to distance themselves against SMU, I

1004
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: would expect it to show up there as a nine

1005
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: and a half point line that kind of doesn't make sense.

1006
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna steer into it. I'm gonna go Clemson.

1007
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't fully get it, but I do like what

1008
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: we have seen with Clemson post by week. So give

1009
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: me Clemson minus a number.

1010
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: As long as they're playing terrible, broken teams. And I

1011
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: don't think SMU was that Clemson's good.

1012
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: Seven forty five because the SEC network loves to be different.

1013
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Number sixteen Mazoo on the road at Auburn. Auburn is

1014
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: a two point home underdog, Dan Rivenstein, This.

1015
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: Is another deep Podesta game, right, It kind of is right?

1016
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you feeling that too? Okay?

1017
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: I just stared at my computer screen when I saw

1018
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: this number, and then I just started thinking about this game.

1019
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: I went back and watched Auburn George again. I went

1020
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: back and watched missoo Alabama game again. And I can't

1021
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: do it with Auburn again. I can't do it. I

1022
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: can't stomach the coaster.

1023
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: Do it, Dan, do it. I can't do it. And

1024
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: this is why become wrath do it. I think Auburn

1025
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: is special. Hold on, I think hold on, Hey, I

1026
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: gotta write this down. Please write it down? Is this special,

1027
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: as in the ad talking about Hugh Freeze kind of

1028
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: being like a Jalopy that sometimes starts and sometimes doesn't.

1029
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: This is special as in like you've been reassigned to

1030
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: a special project and that's the only titling you're gonna

1031
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: know about for a little bit.

1032
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Right, It's a code name. You may or may not

1033
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: have the clearance. You can't tell your friends about it,

1034
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: special access type thing.

1035
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: Right, Auburn as a home dog in front of a

1036
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: rocket crowd, and it's gonna be less raucous than it

1037
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: was last week, even though this is that night.

1038
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, seven forty five. They like to be different.

1039
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: I know this is Missoo's first road game, too, right,

1040
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: I believe so? Yeah, it is Missoo's first time on

1041
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: the roads this season. I've called Hugh Freeze an elite loser,

1042
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: and I think I'm gonna stick with it. If you

1043
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: were just a standard level loser, I would take Auburn here.

1044
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: But the eliteness of the ways in which Auburn can

1045
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: find ways to lose, I think has to be appreciated here.

1046
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Miszoo outright, and I'm gonna go against

1047
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: the coaster here. Auburn is just that special project. To me,

1048
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: They're that outlier. I'm going Miszoo here. I think they're

1049
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: gonna find ways to move the ball occasionally. I think

1050
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be relatively low scoring. I have it as

1051
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: twenty one sixteen Maszoo.

1052
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I was also staring at the computer screen when I

1053
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: researched this one, and I researched it can't do it

1054
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: late at night, laying in bed with the laptop open,

1055
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: and in that vulnerable moment, I jotted down crouching Tiger

1056
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: hidden Auburn And I don't know why, Okay, but I'm

1057
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: gonna go with it. I think this is the one

1058
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: that Auburn gets. Oh man, I think this is the one.

1059
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: I do three straight losses to Oklahoma, A and M

1060
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: and Georgia, all of which were pretty close games. Right, yep.

1061
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I think Miszoo is in a prime letdown spot right now.

1062
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Had that game against Alabama, they had an opportunity to

1063
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: win it. Yeah. I think Auburn is good enough as

1064
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: a rush defense. I think they could do a lot

1065
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: of the same stuff that Bama did, force Bo Prabula

1066
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: into some new situations. I think it's ugly I don't

1067
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: particularly want to watch this game. Yeah, I'm gonna be

1068
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: watching Notre Dame at the same time, so I already

1069
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: be breathing into a paper bag. I think Auburn wins ugly.

1070
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: I think it's twenty three to twenty one. I think

1071
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: the Tigers finally get one. Yourself, I think they get it.

1072
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: I think a chick tiger hidden Auburn.

1073
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Come on Auburn is an amendment to my home dog

1074
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: ed institution that it applies to all teams.

1075
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: Except Auburn at this point. My credo that's travel back

1076
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: in time. Dan, seven pm ESPN, Friday night lights, Willisville

1077
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: on the road at number two Miami Miami by thirteen

1078
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: and a half points, Stan, Yeah, did Jeff Brohm pull

1079
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: the biggest upset of the year? Can he win this one?

1080
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Can he knock Miami from the number two pedestal throw

1081
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: the acc into disarray? Dan, I don't think so.

1082
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: No, No, come on, equal rest right, equal rest both

1083
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: of these teams coming off of bye Yeah. I actually

1084
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: looked up on three different websites Miami traffic patterns for

1085
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: this preview. Okay, just because a Friday night outside of

1086
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: the city.

1087
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, traffic in Miami is bad as is.

1088
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: It's a real bad night.

1089
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: So getting to this stadium by seven pm during rush hour,

1090
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: I think, I think the diehards will, I think the

1091
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: diehards will you be there early tailgating and they'll be

1092
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: in there, no problem. I just think it's going to

1093
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: be a weird not weirdly empty, but ah, I think

1094
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 2: there'll be patches of seats early on in this game

1095
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: because of that, not because of any dedication of Miami fans,

1096
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: just because Miami traffic patterns.

1097
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: What time would you have to leave in order to

1098
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: get there?

1099
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: Did you have no idea? I'm not an expert. Four

1100
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: to seven pm is what I saw as being extremely dense.

1101
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: And who knows extremely dense better.

1102
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: Than Dan Rubens. That's right, That's exactly right.

1103
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm going Louisville here to cover. I think their defense

1104
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: is such that it should be a really fun trench

1105
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: matchup when Miami has the ball with their terrific offensive line,

1106
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: and Louisville has done a great job on getting pressure

1107
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: on the quarterbacks. Now you look at their schedule, it's

1108
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: not incredible, but there is something about Louisville's defense here

1109
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: that makes me think they can keep it relatively close.

1110
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the firepower on offense to

1111
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: win this game. I think Miami's really, really good. I'm

1112
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: a believer in Miami, but I think that's too many points.

1113
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I don't know. Twenty seven, nineteen, twenty four, eighteen.

1114
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: I think it's between a six and ten point win

1115
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: for the Canes here. I think it's too many. I

1116
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: don't think their offense has the supreme, consistent, complete pop

1117
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: all of the time. Obviously we've seen the pop from

1118
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: the young receivers. I just think it's been a step

1119
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: down since last year, which like kind of course it

1120
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: is because I was a historic Miami offense last year.

1121
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: So I think really good, just not a lethal force

1122
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: right now.

1123
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: To give Jeff Brahm the benefit of the doubt in

1124
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: big games, because he's actually been pretty good in these spots,

1125
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: he hasn't always won them by spoilermaker, yeah, I mean,

1126
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: he's just he doesn't get out coached in these types

1127
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: of matchups. He may not have the manpower to pull

1128
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: the upset, but his teams are just always very ready.

1129
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: The issue for me is that Miami's defensive line just

1130
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: makes everybody look bad. Yes, and LSU's offensive line was

1131
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: already sort of in question here, which probably translates, I

1132
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: think to more pressure on Miller Moss him having to

1133
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: make quick decisions. I think his ratio this year is

1134
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: seven to four touchdown to interception. I mean, we've seen

1135
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff with him forcing balls

1136
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: in like he did at USC. So I'm not there

1137
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: on Louisville pulling the upset, even though I like Louisville

1138
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: generally speaking, I think they cover. But I think it's

1139
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: like thirty one to twenty one Miami wins at home. Okay,

1140
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about some under the radar games.

1141
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: Dan.

1142
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: That's and I'm going to tell you why I put

1143
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: each of these on this list. Okay, Okay, three point

1144
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN. It is Texas A and M the number

1145
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: four team in the country now on the road at

1146
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Arkansas and M favored by seven on the road. Dan, Yes,

1147
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: I think Bobby Patrino wants that job. I'm sure he does.

1148
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: I know he wants that job. There were rumors weeks

1149
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: ago that Bobby Patrino was angling for the interim job

1150
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: because he wanted the full time job. Once a shot

1151
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: at redemption in Fayetteville. Yeah, to that point, though, had

1152
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: the bye week played well against Tennessee, A and M

1153
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: could be in a look ahead spot. They've got their

1154
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: game against LSU on deck, which is a rivalry that

1155
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: most people don't talk about. Could we see the Hogs

1156
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: here winning covering at home against an M.

1157
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: I say yes, Yeah, Okay, Well think about this matchup.

1158
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: This game has largely been in recent years, but it's

1159
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: been in Jerry world and now it's back.

1160
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: To home sites. Correct. Game's generally weird.

1161
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: Even when a team wins by ten, You're like, that

1162
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: doesn't that score doesn't make sense. Given the back and

1163
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: forth of this game it has, We've had a lot

1164
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: of weird endings. This matchup in general is just a

1165
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: game that the universe likes playing tricks on. Yes, so

1166
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy to take the points in Fayetteville. I think

1167
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: Texas A and M likely wins this game. I just

1168
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a weird back and forth. And

1169
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: the pattern we've come to appreciate with Bobby Patrino as

1170
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: a head coach is things are good until they go

1171
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: disastrously wrong. I still think we're in that good phase,

1172
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: right now with looking competitive, running really well against Tennessee,

1173
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: giving themselves a shot to beat Tennessee last week, I'm

1174
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: gonna go Arkansas here to cover this game as sort

1175
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: of a last hurrah, and maybe things are about to

1176
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: go disasterly but disastrously bad for Arkansas. I just think

1177
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: there is a pain quotion to what Arkansas can infer

1178
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: flicked for a good amount of this game. But Texas

1179
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: A and M is just a better team for four quarters.

1180
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: So Aggie's win Arkansas keeps it close.

1181
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you four fifteen sec network because they like

1182
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: to be different with the times, you know. Of course,

1183
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Mississippi State on the road at Florida. Florida favored by

1184
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: eight and a half points. Now, the big story, and

1185
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: this has just been coming out over the last twelve

1186
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: hours or so, is that there is apparently a lot

1187
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: of motion behind the scenes down at Florida. I cannot

1188
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: report this with any kind of authority, as you know,

1189
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: but this is just me reading stuff online now being

1190
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: reported by Yahoo Sports among others that Florida could move

1191
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: to fire and Napier as soon as this weekend. So

1192
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: with that being said, I don't know what the motivation

1193
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: level is going to be on behalf of the Florida Gators.

1194
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's going to look like from

1195
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: a player standpoint, from a coaching standpoint, but I do

1196
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: know this Mississippi State is a pain in the ass yep.

1197
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: I would think that if Florida gives a the passing

1198
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: game will be there for DJ Lagway. But this is

1199
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: a really good Mississippi State team that is definitely upset minded.

1200
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: They do not get a ton of pressure, but they

1201
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: have played really, really well this season. I think given

1202
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: all the atmospherics here, we gotta go Mississippi State.

1203
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to Mississippi State. And here I mean

1204
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 2: limited sample sized sport. But here's what we know about

1205
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: Florida this season. That they can get up for a

1206
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: game against a marquee opponent after a bye. Mississippi State

1207
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: in the SEC does not qualify as a marque opponent.

1208
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: Have been a great story this season. Are definitely of

1209
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: good quality this season, but that's not a preseason circle.

1210
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: This one can't wait to play it whereas Texas is.

1211
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: And I don't mean any disrespect when I say that

1212
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 2: I don't think the vibes are good. I don't think

1213
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: Florida is locked in, especially after last week, and as

1214
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: overbearing in a good way as the swamp can be.

1215
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: I just don't think the vibes are enough to overcome.

1216
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: So I think Mississippi State here likely outright over Florida.

1217
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to six thirty Big ten Network, number eight. Oregon,

1218
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: your ducks on the road, seventeen point favorites against the

1219
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Rutgers Scarlet Knights. You elected to not come on over here.

1220
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: I would have driven and watched this game with you

1221
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: if you want it. But how long of a drive?

1222
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: I still have time hour fifteen, maybe hour and a half, Okay,

1223
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: if that depends on traffic, we might have to look

1224
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: at traffic patterns. But does Oregon have the firepower if

1225
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: they get into a shootout with Athan caliac Manus, they

1226
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: have the potential. Okay.

1227
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: So Oregon may be underrated in this moment because of

1228
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: their performance against Indiana. But here's the thing that worries

1229
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: me about Oregon right now. There are small quibbles. Everything

1230
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: that they struggle with is fixable against the rest of

1231
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: their schedule. May not be fixable if they play Indiana

1232
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: next week, but against the rest of their schedule they

1233
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: can improve upon what went wrong, especially on offense against Indiana.

1234
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: The concerning thing to me is this would have been

1235
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: a really nice spot if you're an Oregon fan, to

1236
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: play a game in Eugene, Oregon, Yes, to play against Wisconsin,

1237
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: to play against Minnesota, to play against you know, Washington,

1238
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: USC whoever. That you're still in Eugene, you're working it

1239
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: through whatever. I don't know how many people out there

1240
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: think to themselves, Wow, that was a horrible Saturday. Guess

1241
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: it's time to fly to Newark. Right across the country.

1242
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: So Rutgers has moved the ball well. This has been

1243
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: a nice year for Ethan caliac Manis since they've run

1244
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: the ball well, they've got big receivers. They've moved the

1245
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: ball against everyone. Now, Washington came back and had a

1246
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: great second half last week. But like they moved the

1247
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: ball against Iowa, they moved the ball against I believe Minnesota.

1248
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: So Oregon's a different animal. They're a different beast. They're

1249
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: better than those teams, better than the teams Rutgers is

1250
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: faced on their schedule. I'm just not giving those points

1251
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: on the road. I think Oregon wins this game. I

1252
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: don't think it's especially competitive in the second half, but

1253
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: something like thirty three to twenty one Oregon wins.

1254
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a question about five other

1255
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: games on the slate.

1256
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: Do you agree? Do you disagree? Are you taking the points?

1257
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: Are you giving them?

1258
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm giving the points? Are you kidding me? There is?

1259
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so I would say it in my mind it

1260
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: is likely that Oregon wins semi comfortably. But I think

1261
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: the second outcome is Oregon winning by fifty seven.

1262
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk to or Blue in the

1263
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: face about Rutgers putting up points in yards on pretty

1264
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: much everybody. They haven't played a lick of defense. Now

1265
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: they have not, So now I'm laying the points. Okay.

1266
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to ask you a question about five

1267
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: other games this week. I want you to answer the question,

1268
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: and if you want to provide a pick, you can

1269
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: do that too. But seven pm on Peacock. Yeah, my

1270
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: Penn State Nitney Lyons on the road at Iowa. This

1271
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: hell of a matchup that we do not speak of

1272
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: in this house, right. Iowa favored by two and a

1273
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: half points. The over is thirty nine and a half.

1274
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: Will they hit the over thirty nine and a half

1275
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half Penn State without James Franklin, obviously,

1276
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: without Drew Aller. Obviously, it's an Ethan Grunkemeyer game. Iowa

1277
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: is now favored. Will they hit the over thirty nine

1278
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: and a half.

1279
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: So it's like a can they win this game twenty

1280
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: two to nineteen kind of thing.

1281
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Doug h I say, yes, Oh, this

1282
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: is going under. This is I say, yes, this is

1283
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: so under. This is gonna go to the leather. This

1284
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be like thirteen to nine. Somebody wins, you

1285
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: think so?

1286
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they scored points against Wisconsin. So they get a

1287
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: Wisconsin team that's reeling, struggling on offense and is likely

1288
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: going to move on from their head coach, and they

1289
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: beat him by thirty seven.

1290
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, hold on, hold on. This is

1291
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: thirteen to nine in favor of somebody. Thirty seven.

1292
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Nothing does not cover a thirty nine and a half

1293
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: point number. So that got me thinking, I don't I

1294
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: have no idea what to think of what Ethan Grunkeemeyer.

1295
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? His name is Grunkameyer.

1296
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Iow wins this game.

1297
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: I think Iowa covers this game.

1298
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think it hits the over. I have

1299
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: it twenty three to thirteen.

1300
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: They can't make this low enough. They can't.

1301
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: Man, how many I mean, UCLA scored a bunch of points.

1302
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, that's the final score of this game.

1303
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: Man.

1304
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: If Penn State is truly checked out on both sides

1305
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: of the ball, they're not going to score.

1306
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: See. This is what everybody has missed about the Penn

1307
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: State thing. And it gives me like a nervous tick one.

1308
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 1: I read about this online and I get the argument. Obviously,

1309
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I get the arger. I've made the argument. Write about

1310
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: James Franklin and the guy wins and it's tough to

1311
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: part ways with a guy who wins that much and

1312
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: you pay out all the money, and like, totally get

1313
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: that argument. The sport is in a very weird place

1314
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: right now. I understand that very very much. These guys

1315
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: were checked out. That's why he got fired. Now, okay,

1316
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: he got fired now because the team is checked out, right,

1317
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: So it shouldn't be a surprise now that Iowa was favored.

1318
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: They probably would have been favored even if James Franklin.

1319
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: We're still there, so forget the game total over? What

1320
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: is the over for Penn State's point total, specifically thirteen

1321
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: thirteen flat? O?

1322
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and I hope I'm wrong, But new quarterback, they'll

1323
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: probably run a lot. I was going to know that

1324
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: they're running a lot. This is gonna be a terrible

1325
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: football game. This game is always terrible. Okay, don't watch

1326
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: this game. Don't sign up for Peacock because of this game.

1327
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: Sign up for the you know something else.

1328
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, like all of SNL is on Peacock.

1329
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: There's a good watch that. Don't watch this, Okay, but

1330
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: that's why they fired him. They're checked out. This is

1331
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: gonna be a horrible game. By the way, sidebar offer

1332
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: stands James Franklin. We give you your own podcast. We

1333
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: pay you thirty eight thousand dollars a year, so Penn

1334
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: State is on the hook for seven point nine million

1335
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: dollars of offset income. And you can tell some stories

1336
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: and we have a grand old time.

1337
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: We'll give you.

1338
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: You'll sound great. Ty will make sure of it.

1339
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: I will make sure of it. Yeah.

1340
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: Ty will fly down to your whatever your private island

1341
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 2: becomes in the Caribbean and set up your av stuff

1342
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: and We're all happy.

1343
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll buy him a roadcaster pro.

1344
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: We'll call the show Let's be Frank with James Franklin.

1345
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: Yep.

1346
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: And he just stands. Offer stands. We'll pay you as

1347
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: little money as you want, so that you have to

1348
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: bleed Penn State dry for all of your your bio.

1349
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: And I'm saying this isn't alum. I will pay you

1350
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: one dollars.

1351
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: I know that's you got to pay market rate for

1352
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: an new podcast, which is seventeen dollars.

1353
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: Seventeen dollars, okay, seven PMFS one Maryland at UCLA. Ucla

1354
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: is favored by three and a half points. Yeah. The

1355
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: reason that I jodded this down. The question I have

1356
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: for you is this is a yes or no question

1357
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: in your view? Is this or is this not a

1358
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: sneaky fun matchup?

1359
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it will be. I think UCLA is

1360
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: going to tear him apart. Really, the unbeatable force that

1361
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: is the UCLA Bruins. All of a sudden, Maryland has

1362
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 2: lost two heartbreakers in the row in a row and

1363
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: is now going to fly across the country to play

1364
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: in front of well, actually there'll be more people than

1365
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: usual because I think the Southland is appreciating the unbeatable

1366
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: force that is UCLA football, perhaps more than they were before.

1367
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: So UCLA wins this game twenty seven to thirteen. Twenty

1368
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: seven to thirteen.

1369
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, do you know that if UCLA

1370
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: were to win all of its remaining games, they would

1371
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: finish first in the Big Ten standings?

1372
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 2: If UCLA wins all of its remaining games because they

1373
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: lost early to Utah and New Mexico, that's right, who

1374
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: have they lost to in the Big Ten?

1375
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: Well? Here, okay, here's what I where I'm going with

1376
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: this is, Yeah, there are a couple games left against

1377
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: important opponents. Yeah, they've got a game this week against Maryland.

1378
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: I guess they only have one Big Ten loss. That's right,

1379
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: they've only lost Northwestern. Oh, okay, continue, they have a

1380
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: game against Indiana next week. That's gonna be a tough mee,

1381
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: that's enough at Indiana bloom.

1382
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Then they're on By first

1383
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: week of November, they're at home against Nebraska. Okay, second

1384
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: week of November, they're on the road at Ohio State.

1385
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: Not easy, not easy. But it's Jerry Neuheisel, right, he's great. Magic. Yeah,

1386
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: November twenty first they are at home against Washington and

1387
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: then rivalry weekend. I guess last weekend of November, They've

1388
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: got the gaming against USC even if they don't win out,

1389
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: even if they don't beat Ohio State, you know, which

1390
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 1: doesn't seem likely. But let's say they go to Indiana

1391
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: and pull an upset, UCLA would finish in the top

1392
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: half of the Big Ten. They'd be like fourth for

1393
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker if all the other projections go as such. Yes,

1394
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: So this is a very long way of saying that

1395
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: UCLA has seemingly pulled itself together pretty nicely now after

1396
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: firing Sean Foster. I don't know what happens to this

1397
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: program moving forward, but at least in the short term,

1398
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: UCLA is an interesting story, and I think it's a

1399
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: sneaky fun matchup, if only because they are involved here

1400
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: and I like Maryland. Maryland I think has had a

1401
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: really good season too, but traveling cross country, UCLA has

1402
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: got the wind at their back for whatever reason. I

1403
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: tend to think that they will win this one going

1404
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: away as well.

1405
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: So UCLA has Nebraska a week after Nebraska play USC,

1406
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: and that UCLA Nebraska game is in La. Ucla has

1407
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Washington a week before Washington plays Oregon, and they have

1408
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: u AT a week before. Yes, Ucla has Washington a

1409
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: week before Washington plays Oregon, and UCLA plays USC a

1410
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: week after USC plays Oregon. Yeah, so there is a

1411
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: little bit of letdown look ahead noss to UCLA's drive

1412
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: for six. I don't think they're going to get there,

1413
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 2: but five and seven after starting whatever zero to four.

1414
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: Yep, that's very good. Ten thirty in the hinterlands, Florida State,

1415
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: traveling all the way out to Stanford, there is seventeen

1416
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Is there any cause for

1417
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: pause or favorite pitt charity here for the Florida State

1418
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Seminoles on the road?

1419
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean, what what has Florida State done on the

1420
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: road to make you feel good about them being a

1421
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half point favorite against anybody?

1422
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: No? Okay, fair enough?

1423
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: I mean, or whether they've done recently? I mean, they

1424
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: lose to Virginia on the road in double overtime, they

1425
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: lose to an excellent Miami team, and they lose close

1426
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: and ugly fashion defensively to pit I think Stanford's winning

1427
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: this game, winning the game. I think Stanford's winning this game.

1428
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm not going that far, but I think

1429
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: there's cause for pause here, dude.

1430
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: I think vibes are very quietly bad. They're just overshadowed

1431
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: by the vibes at Florida right now. Yeah, things are bad, man.

1432
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: All right. Finally, let's get these out of the way

1433
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: here and then go about our lives. Dan, We've got

1434
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: an eight pm game Friday night on Fox. It is

1435
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: number twenty five Nebraska and future Penn State coach Matt

1436
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Ruhle in what appears to be a raucous environment on

1437
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: the road at Minnesota in a losable spot. They are

1438
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: a eight and a half point road favorite here, Dan,

1439
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: who you got?

1440
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: This is Nebraska in a letdown spot, second straight game

1441
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: on the road against a Minnesota team.

1442
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: So it's second.

1443
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: Straight road out after a heartbreaking loss short week.

1444
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: That's right.

1445
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm going Minnesota here at least to cover here. I've

1446
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: got Minnesotas howering too. Yeah, I've got that too. I

1447
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: don't think Minnesota is terrific, but I think they can

1448
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: cover this.

1449
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: And then last, but not least. Also, I believe on

1450
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: Friday night, or maybe not Friday night, I guess this

1451
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: isn't Friday Night but ten thirty ESPN. Speaking of the hinterlands.

1452
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: It is North Carolina a ten point dog on the

1453
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: road against Cal. The only reason I bring this one up.

1454
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: Does Cal put the final nail in the Belichick coffin? Here?

1455
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: They sure going away? Did they finally get Bill Belichick

1456
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: out of town?

1457
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: Well, the question is is CAL losing to Cal in

1458
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:51,839
Speaker 2: a demonstrable fashion? Is that embarrassing enough to pay dozens

1459
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: upon dozens of millions of dollars to get rid of

1460
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. I don't think they're getting rid of Bill

1461
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: Belichick if they lose to Cal by ninety, they don't

1462
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: think they're getting ready Bill bell check this week. So

1463
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: I like Cal here, but I don't think it's a

1464
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: nail in the coffin.

1465
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: So look, your window of opportunity is early. Do it

1466
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: before four pm Eastern time. Go out, be amongst the people.

1467
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: Go apple picking, Go go to the pumpkin patch with

1468
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: the little ones. Go see cats if that's something that

1469
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: you're into. If you're over in Germany, where I believe

1470
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: it is circulating right now, we did have somebody who

1471
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: did see a neighborhood showing of Cats on a Saturday.

1472
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: Send us a picture earlier on in the season, so

1473
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: it's just not on Broadway, but it is going to

1474
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: make a comeback in twenty twenty six. I'm told, okay,

1475
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: but do it early before four pm Eastern time, because

1476
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: I think it gets a little bit weird. Now. What's

1477
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: interesting though, with respect to the quad, my question to

1478
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: you is how bad you really want place. It's a

1479
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,879
Speaker 1: little bit of a question of what is your appetite

1480
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: for college football in week gate On this SIKMA Saturday. Right,

1481
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: the window is early, but you could also argue that

1482
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: the best quad is early because you can put a

1483
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: quad together that features every conference. You can put a

1484
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: quad together early that features LSU, Vandy, Georgia Tech, Duke Baylor, TCU,

1485
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: and Washington Michigan with the option, if you're ever so

1486
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: inclined to go Oklahoma South Carolina again SEC network game

1487
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: they like to be a little bit different, starts forty

1488
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: five minutes later, But you can still build that quad

1489
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: if you're interested. A bunch of interesting matchups in that

1490
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: early block. I love that Dan Rubenstein Good Show Today

1491
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground Sigma Saturday. How do we

1492
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: spell that again? Siskma.

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Speaker 2: You gotta watch some highlights Man Sigma Saturday, Jack Sigma Colon.

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01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: Secure the rebound, by the way, just I'm gonna rifle

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Speaker 2: real quick. Arizona Houston. There's a drive for six quotient

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01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,959
Speaker 2: to that. I think Houston can win that game. Arizona

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: with a heartbreaking loss last week. Yukon BC. I think

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01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: Yukon can win that game absolutely.

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: On the road.

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Speaker 2: BC's a nightmare right now, and Yukon's been playing quality football.

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01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: We have Army two Lane, which is a rem actually

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: the American Championship last year. I like that one. That's

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01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Tulane kind of a heavy favorite. Northwestern

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: Purdue in my backyard, Northwestern opportunity to stack wins after

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 2: pulling the upset last week against Penn State, but in

1506
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: a letdown spot after beating Penn State, Michigan State Indiana.

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01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: Indiana is not losing this game, but this is a

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01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: letdown of letdown spots, and Indiana doesn't let down. They

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: don't let down. But I'm just saying for anybody else

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01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: to potentially Hawaii at Colorado State. Colorado State actually looked

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: pretty good last week. Hawaii has been very quietly decent

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01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: and I don't think I'm going to underscore this once again.

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: This is a reverse bodyclock game for Florida State ten

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: thirty body time kickoffs. It's it's not quite I guess

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: where Michigan State was against USC. It's a longer flight

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: from Florida State to LA than it is from I

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01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: assume somewhere in Michigan to LA. So, my god, I

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01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: love Stanford there also. I love dropping that big stanky

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01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: caressing drum and five pressing and caressing, Oh baby, oh

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01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: baby baby gues are.

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01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: One pm ESPN plus. The Buckdal buys in at four

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: and three on the road at Cornell. Vanelly's tipping the

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01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: skills at says here, oh and four oh and four?

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Wow, is it not riding that coaster either?

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01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: I gotta go Nelly's. Yeah.

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01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: Well this is now Classico, right.

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: It is now Classico. Yeah.

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: So I'm going Bucknell on the road to win new Classico.

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01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: Number one, number one in our hearts, one in five

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01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: in the record books. Uh. Fordham one and five at

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: home against Dartmouth Dan Dartmouth is three and one one

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: pm ESPN plus. Yeah, upset, Let's go Fordham.

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01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm going Mouth The's the IVY is a little

1534
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: bit more special than the vaunted Patleague.

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01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: This year, one pm ESPN plus Colgate two and four

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: on the road, Multi sport Field squaring off against the

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: Georgetown Hoyas, who are three and three. Dan.

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01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a gray out, I believe for George,

1539
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 2: I have no idea Georgetown by seventeen.

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: Two pm ESPN plus holy Cross, Oh to six. The

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01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: Spiders of Richmond h four and three.

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01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: Let's go Richmond here are big too?

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: Am going with the Spiders?

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: And last but not least, who the hell did holy

1545
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Cross higher after having Bob Chesney go to JAILU isn't

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01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: that where he came from?

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01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: He came from holy Cross? Yeah? And last but not least,

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: as they speak in hushed revered tones, yeah, ten pm

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01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: on c dub Okay, I'm not making that up on

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01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: the document, this is true. Yeah. The Lafayette Leopards five

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: and two, traveling all the way across the US of

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: A on the road at Oregon State, which just fire

1553
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: their coach, which begs the question if Lafayette could win

1554
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: this game.

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: There is a betting line, according to oddsshark dot com,

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: tie do you have a.

1557
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 1: Guess, ah, twenty eight and a half.

1558
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: Oregon State is favored by twenty two and a half.

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay, oh Man.

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01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: Lafaye's gonna lose big. But but I'm intrigued by that number.

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by the number as well.

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01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a that's a bodyclock game too. Easton

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01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: to Corvallis. How many airports good? What kind of travel

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01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: schedule is that?

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01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, they're probably flying out of Philly. I have to

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01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: imagine they're flying out of Philly.

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01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's an it's an hour plus to get

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: to Philly from Easton.

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01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: I mean Portland. There's no direct flight, right, I mean

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01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,440
Speaker 1: it's Portland.

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: And then no, you're flying to Portland. I guess you

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01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: could fly to Eugene if you're flying from somewhere closer,

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: but I don't.

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01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: There's definitely no Philly to Eugene flight.

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01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: And then how sit from Portland to Pullman?

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01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: Not Pullman, Vallas or Vallis.

1578
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting my package, it's like.

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: An hour, depending on traffic, an hour forty five to Eugene.

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: It's a little bit northwest of Eugene. So I'm gonna say,

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at Google Maps as I'm

1582
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: buying time here, it's probably it's under two hours, so

1583
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: it's probably an hour forty five hour fifty light.

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01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: Somewhere in there.

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01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: Good lord, that's a journey, and they're not going to

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01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: be They're probably not staying in Corvallis. They're probably staying

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: somewhere with bigger hotels.

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01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: Well, they can't they can't give out the location of

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: the hotel because then the it's going to be rocking. Yeah,

1590
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: the Beaver fans will pull the fire alarms and stuff

1591
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: at three.

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want any more? Jack sickma thoughts, I don't.

1593
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: I have to look up who this guy is. He

1594
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: is unbelievable, an unbelievable player. I still can't believe he

1595
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: tried to spell.

1596
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Secure the rebound.

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01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: I know that you said, how do you spell that?

1598
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: Spelled it out, but you didn't respond at all.

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,400
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