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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football. It is Friday, July twenty fifth.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sarah Walsh, joined here in Los Angeles by man

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Speaker 2: Tai Tea. We got a pair of former offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: Mitch Morse and.

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Speaker 3: Willie Cologne hanging out there. You guys had a good

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Speaker 3: week with us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fun. I mean, hey, Willie's the man

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Speaker 4: for you guys.

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Speaker 2: In broadcasting, that's called a leading question, Like I really

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Speaker 2: didn't give you a choice that you've.

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Speaker 3: Had fun, right, right, guys, Like.

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't what we're supposed to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, Willie.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe it was leading for a reason. No, we've

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Speaker 2: had a great time. We're so happy to have you guys,

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Speaker 2: and we got another hour to go.

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Speaker 3: So let's get this thing started on a Friday.

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Speaker 4: Let's really good.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday. We know it's Friday.

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Speaker 2: You know why because the producer Gina in our ears,

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Speaker 2: she's so excited she can taste the weekend coming. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: so happy on a Friday. Here Sarah, along with Mantai

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Speaker 2: and then the dynamic duo that is just taking the

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Speaker 2: sports broadcasting world by storm, Willy and Mitch, who are

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Speaker 2: going to open an ice cream shop. Will he told

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Speaker 2: us in the last hour. Willi and Mitch's out there. Look,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look.

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Speaker 3: At this just on the front.

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Speaker 2: Although Mitch looks like he's pondering the questions of life there,

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Speaker 2: Willi's just happy that you're coming into the ice cream shop.

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Speaker 3: Mitch, what are we thinking?

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Speaker 5: Maybe there's more flavors than vanilla? And why does everyone

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Speaker 5: keep walking out of our ice cream shop?

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Speaker 4: Immediately when they walk.

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Speaker 2: They're like, this guy's got questions for me and Willy

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Speaker 2: and Willie's like, come on in. Mitch is like going

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Speaker 2: to toss out questions about, you know, existential stature.

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Speaker 6: And that's that's the That's a that's a look that

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Speaker 6: you have when you go to the ice cream shop

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Speaker 6: and you ask him can I sample the ice cream?

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Speaker 2: And like, now we don't do a sample samples? What

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Speaker 2: do you want to sample? Vanilla offers Vanilla.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a that's a face that Mitch makes when

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Mett, let's see what kind of face

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Speaker 2: you have to make about the Bears, because this is

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Speaker 2: where we're kicking things off now for three and out,

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Speaker 2: We've got better safety.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Bayer this is first down.

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Speaker 2: Impressed with the way his head coach Ben Johnson carries

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Speaker 2: himself and leads the team.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen, you.

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Speaker 1: Know the young guys kind of call it aora. Just

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Speaker 1: he just no no for really like he breathes competition.

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Speaker 1: You could just tell just the intensity. I think he

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Speaker 1: just he just wants the best for everybody, and I

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Speaker 1: think that type of energy raises the level of everybody

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Speaker 1: in the team. You know, you're only as strong as

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Speaker 1: your weekest link. So that's what we're trying toppreciate every

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Speaker 1: single person in the building. We're just trying to get

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Speaker 1: one percent better every day. And it doesn't look you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows success.

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Speaker 4: Isn't like this. It's kind of like this ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: But we're just trying to eliminate those dips and make

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Speaker 4: As we can tell you the clown, we're trying to

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Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think Bridge said it in an interview

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Speaker 1: when he was doing this training camp, but it was true.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson wants to build a dynasty, and we want

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Speaker 1: to be that dynasty. We want to be the guys

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Speaker 1: that kind of get this thing started.

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Speaker 2: Myself another preseason, a lot of hypes surrounding the Bears.

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Speaker 2: It feels like mantaid, We've been here season after season

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Speaker 2: after season, like.

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 2: We've got Caleb now, this is it. Now we got

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Speaker 3: Are you guys buying in?

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Speaker 2: Is this the year that the hype matches what these

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Speaker 6: Well, I think there's hype around every team in the

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Speaker 6: not Chargers camp, bro, I'm still on to make the

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Speaker 6: case of Bears Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson actually pulled the

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Speaker 6: the accountability, he's not afraid to get on you. Everything

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Speaker 6: that I've read, all the reports out of Bears camp

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Speaker 6: has been He's been on Caleb Williams about the little things.

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Speaker 6: This is such a big contrast to what we heard

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Speaker 6: Had Ben Johnson is like, that's not good enough.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: If you don't perform, I'm going to pull you off

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Speaker 6: the field. Matter of fact, I'm gonna take all you

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Speaker 6: I'm really excited about what the season looks like for

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Speaker 6: there were questions going into this year, I can he

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Speaker 6: that's the type of stuff that creates winning. That's the

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Speaker 6: that really likes to refer to a lot that they

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Speaker 6: like where that accountability is coming from, and no better

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you should believe the hype and I

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Speaker 5: want to commend Ryan Poles the GM of the Bears.

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Speaker 5: As a Bears fan, you should be proud to have

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Speaker 5: Ryan Poles at the Helm. You've every year addressed the

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Speaker 5: You bringing Ben Johnson. You didn't like the way that

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Speaker 5: I think a future Hall of Famer at right guard

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Speaker 5: You have guys like Grady Jarrett who I think might

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Speaker 5: for years as Tremaine Edmonds at the Helm. Who's gonna

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Speaker 5: the hype. I think if you live in that Wendy city,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I believe the hype, but proceed with caution.

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Speaker 7: I feel like every Bears fan has been was here

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Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four. The

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Speaker 7: I think if you're a Bears fan right now, you

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Speaker 7: really their relationship that matters, because it goes as Caleb

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Speaker 7: when Ben Johnson was running that offense. You know, when

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Speaker 7: at a high level. That's what Bears fans want. They've

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Speaker 7: been in despair for so long that they finally got

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Speaker 4: They just need to flat out win.

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Speaker 7: It goes back to what Jalen Johnson, the quarterback for

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Speaker 7: the Bears, said back in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I remember reading that article.

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Speaker 7: He said, Hey, man, hype doesn't win you know games,

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Speaker 7: you gotta deliver. So it's time for the Bears deliver,

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Speaker 7: and it's time for them to do it now because

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Speaker 7: Bears fans have been waiting way too long.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like Willie's making his case for the bear. Willie,

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Speaker 3: that was strong.

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Speaker 2: If I was still in my judge costume, I mean

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Speaker 2: I would point to Willie there.

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Speaker 3: Where's my gavel? They should have let me keep that.

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Speaker 7: Let me tell you when I ran out of those

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Speaker 7: thirty seconds on the first one, I was defeated.

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Speaker 4: I could have got rid of the whole segment. I

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Speaker 7: I was trying to, you know, bring it up and

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Speaker 5: He was hitting the table show.

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Speaker 4: I was pissed off.

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Speaker 2: And then Mitch just said Mitch just sits back and

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Speaker 2: how I'm gonna play it. So Mitch had the advantage there.

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Speaker 2: I like, I'm digressing. We're in a different segment here

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Speaker 2: because Manti is still trying to make arguments. Yeah, second down,

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Speaker 2: we're going cowboys here.

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Speaker 3: Something we never talked about on this show.

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Speaker 2: A receiver George Pickens showing off excellent hands yesterday at practice.

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Speaker 2: Here he is effortlesly hauling in the throw with one hand.

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Speaker 2: We see it again right there.

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Speaker 3: Sweet also at practice yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 2: celebration during a drill. I mean, everyone's having a great time.

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Speaker 2: So it's like they just won the Super Bowl. It's

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Speaker 2: great out there. Vibes seem high in Dallas that you

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Speaker 2: have to entertain yourself right when you guys are going

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Speaker 2: through the mundane training camp practices, and they certainly are.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about these vibes coming out of

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Speaker 3: What does this do for you? Manti?

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Speaker 6: Well, the only vibes that are higher than that is

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Speaker 6: the one that Mitchill really have going on right now.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm looking, I like what I'm seeing despite

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Speaker 5: Let your hate flow.

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Speaker 2: Here's how the preseason works.

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Speaker 2: You get really hyped on all these teams, and then

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would in the same boat. It kind of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm an eighties baby, so I grew up loving

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Speaker 2: Like, that's not him because he's wearing a Hulkokan T shirt.

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Speaker 2: So nice football is officially back here as we move

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Speaker 2: Together weekend for twelve hours of live coverage from training

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Speaker 3: Manti going to the Chargers, he loves them, can't stop

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Speaker 8: We went a ton, we win a bunch of games.

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Speaker 8: Ain't nothing. I can't even imagine anything. I haven't winning

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens, guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were just looking at that video of

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Speaker 3: From even taking place.

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Speaker 2: team wanted Wilkins to get surgery on his foot that

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Speaker 2: he fractured last season, but Wilkins declined after receiving several opinions.

438
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Speaker 2: The defensive tackle signed a four year, one hundred and

439
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Speaker 2: ten million dollar deal with the Raiders just a year ago.

440
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Speaker 2: It looks like Pete Carroll's not messing around. He is

441
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Speaker 2: ready to turn things around in Vegas. They are cutting

442
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Speaker 2: ties with players that they feel like they need to

443
00:19:11,788 --> 00:19:16,708
Speaker 2: cut ties from Willis. It's certainly an unusual situation when

444
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Speaker 2: you see the statement that they put out, and I'm

445
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Speaker 2: just curious your thoughts on sort of how this has

446
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Speaker 2: all unfolded.

447
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, so he suffered a Jones fracture, which is

448
00:19:24,788 --> 00:19:28,068
Speaker 7: pretty tough. I think there's a speculation going out going

449
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Speaker 7: around that he didn't get surgery, and that's false. He

450
00:19:30,548 --> 00:19:34,348
Speaker 7: did get surgery on the left foot. However, they wanted

451
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Speaker 7: him to get another surgery, kind of a quick fix,

452
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Speaker 7: and he denied that.

453
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Speaker 4: He even went around to a couple other.

454
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Speaker 7: Docs is asking for the expert, their expertise in their opinion,

455
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Speaker 7: and they say, you don't need the second surgery.

456
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Speaker 4: So he didn't get it.

457
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Speaker 7: As ballplayers, we understand, man, anytime you go underneath the knife,

458
00:19:49,868 --> 00:19:53,108
Speaker 7: you really developed more arthritis in the area that they

459
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Speaker 7: operated on.

460
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Speaker 4: So this is a big blow to the defense man.

461
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Speaker 7: Christian Wilkins was supposed to be a cornerstone right next

462
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Speaker 7: to MaTx Crosby and Malcolm Kudes.

463
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Speaker 4: Max Crosby is on and we talked.

464
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Speaker 7: About him yesterday talking about playing delusion really how willing

465
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Speaker 7: yourself to realize that they can win, and he needed help,

466
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Speaker 7: and Christian Wilkins was supposed to be that guy right

467
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Speaker 7: beside him, really leading this defensive charge. So this is

468
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Speaker 7: a major blow to the Las Vegas Raiders. And his defense.

469
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Speaker 7: We talked about their woes and what they lacked. This

470
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Speaker 7: is going to be tough to recover because this guy

471
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Speaker 7: was an impact player.

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is somewhat confusing to me the whole situation

473
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Speaker 5: thinking about him just as a player I played within

474
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Speaker 5: the same division when he was in Miami, I was

475
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Speaker 5: in Buffalo, a tremendous player, earned every penny of that

476
00:20:38,388 --> 00:20:41,628
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten million dollars deal from the Raiders.

477
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Speaker 5: Your body, Yeah, you inherently you're going to get hurt

478
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Speaker 5: in this game. Inherently there's going to be parts and

479
00:20:49,668 --> 00:20:52,108
Speaker 5: times where you're asked to step on the field injured.

480
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Speaker 5: The severity of those injuries vary, and how you feel

481
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Speaker 5: as a player varies. There's certain injuries you can go

482
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Speaker 5: out there and feel like, yeah, I can still put

483
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Speaker 5: my best foot forward, no pun intended. The Jones fracture

484
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Speaker 5: is no joke. And knowing that he had gun under

485
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Speaker 5: the knife and he had gotten these second opinions and

486
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Speaker 5: they said he didn't technically need it, I'd be remiss

487
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Speaker 5: to think that there isn't something going on behind the

488
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Speaker 5: scenes in regards to maybe I don't want to even

489
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Speaker 5: speculate because that's not fair to the player who hasn't

490
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Speaker 5: been able to have a conversation with the media or

491
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Speaker 5: with the public. But there's something underlying that we're not seeing,

492
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Speaker 5: whether it's behind the scenes in the locker and with management.

493
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Speaker 5: I don't want to speculate, but they made this move

494
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Speaker 5: for a reason, and I'm really interested to see how

495
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Speaker 5: this information comes out over the ensuing days and weeks.

496
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mitch, my comments kind of they feed off of yours,

497
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Speaker 6: where we need to hear what Christian Wilkins has to say.

498
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of information. There's a whole other side

499
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Speaker 6: to the story that we don't know yet. So I

500
00:21:48,588 --> 00:21:50,988
Speaker 6: don't want to speculate. I don't want to put things

501
00:21:51,028 --> 00:21:53,508
Speaker 6: out there that create this narrative that is totally false.

502
00:21:53,868 --> 00:21:56,388
Speaker 6: But the reality of this is as a player, you

503
00:21:56,428 --> 00:21:58,628
Speaker 6: have to understand who works for who, like the team,

504
00:21:58,668 --> 00:22:01,948
Speaker 6: doctor works for the team, and oftentimes players go to

505
00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:05,228
Speaker 6: their people or go to outside just to get second

506
00:22:05,268 --> 00:22:08,268
Speaker 6: opinion so that they could have an opinion that isn't

507
00:22:08,308 --> 00:22:10,708
Speaker 6: related to their work or isn't related to their team.

508
00:22:10,828 --> 00:22:13,428
Speaker 6: So I based on what Willy has told us, and

509
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Speaker 6: I'm so grateful that Wally kind of updated us because

510
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,548
Speaker 6: we didn't see any of that in the reports. And

511
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Speaker 6: that's the thing about where we're at is we're kind

512
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Speaker 6: of going off with what everybody says. So I'm grateful

513
00:22:21,308 --> 00:22:24,788
Speaker 6: that Willy had that inside facts and presented it to

514
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Speaker 6: us today because the fact of the matter is, we

515
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Speaker 6: know how they feel when I say, hey, I mean

516
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Speaker 6: the Las Vegas Raiders, but we don't know how Christian

517
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Speaker 6: Wilkins feels. We don't know what actually transpired to lead

518
00:22:34,548 --> 00:22:37,988
Speaker 6: to this, and it's just a difficult situation. As a player,

519
00:22:38,028 --> 00:22:40,308
Speaker 6: you don't want to put yourself in this situation where

520
00:22:40,828 --> 00:22:43,908
Speaker 6: a team can use something against you, and there's a

521
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Speaker 6: fine line you have to walk often.

522
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Speaker 4: But I just wish.

523
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Speaker 6: Christian Wilkins nothing but the best wherever that wherever that

524
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Speaker 6: may lead him, because he's a really good football player

525
00:22:51,548 --> 00:22:54,548
Speaker 6: and the big the Las Vegas Raiders are really going

526
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Speaker 6: to miss him because they had a tough task ahead

527
00:22:57,748 --> 00:22:59,828
Speaker 6: of them heading into this year, it just got a

528
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Speaker 6: lot tougher.

529
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Speaker 5: And just to kind of piggyback off of second opinions

530
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Speaker 5: that you're talking about anti for the general public who

531
00:23:05,908 --> 00:23:09,388
Speaker 5: don't know it's players' rights to go get these second

532
00:23:09,428 --> 00:23:12,428
Speaker 5: opinions for people who don't know. It's not just what

533
00:23:12,508 --> 00:23:17,228
Speaker 5: the doctors who inherently I think some I don't want

534
00:23:17,228 --> 00:23:19,988
Speaker 5: to speculate because I've been around some amazing team doctors.

535
00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:22,668
Speaker 5: Let me get that straight, people that I implicitly trust

536
00:23:22,668 --> 00:23:24,428
Speaker 5: and then I still trust to this day. But it

537
00:23:24,428 --> 00:23:26,908
Speaker 5: doesn't mean I still didn't get second opinions from other

538
00:23:26,948 --> 00:23:29,388
Speaker 5: people that trusted outside of the building. It is a

539
00:23:29,428 --> 00:23:32,668
Speaker 5: business through and through so and I got nothing else

540
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Speaker 5: to say. It's just it's a real bummer in my opinion,

541
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Speaker 5: because what Willie said, You're missing a guy on that

542
00:23:38,988 --> 00:23:41,988
Speaker 5: field who I think would have complimented Max Crosby perfectly

543
00:23:42,068 --> 00:23:44,188
Speaker 5: and hoping lands on his feet somewhere else.

544
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Speaker 2: I think it's also interesting, you know, we hear from

545
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll and this is a guy that is so

546
00:23:48,708 --> 00:23:51,028
Speaker 2: used to winning, right, I mean, he talks about double

547
00:23:51,068 --> 00:23:53,428
Speaker 2: digit wins and he is in a division that it

548
00:23:53,508 --> 00:23:55,828
Speaker 2: is top. Andy Reaves talked about, Hey, the guys in

549
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:58,468
Speaker 2: the division, the other teams, they're only getting better. So

550
00:23:58,548 --> 00:24:01,068
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how fast Pete Carroll can

551
00:24:01,308 --> 00:24:04,228
Speaker 2: get those Raiders up to speed and make an impact there.

552
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to GMFB.

553
00:24:06,828 --> 00:24:08,588
Speaker 2: The Bills are turning back the clock as they have

554
00:24:08,668 --> 00:24:11,348
Speaker 2: officially announced the return of their red helmets for the

555
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season.

556
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Speaker 3: They are going to wear the helmet for their Week eighteen.

557
00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:19,348
Speaker 2: Game against the Jets to celebrate the final regular season

558
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Speaker 2: game at high Mark Stadium. The team wore the iconic

559
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Speaker 2: red helmets from eighty seven to two thousand and one.

560
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Speaker 4: Well.

561
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Speaker 2: In his nineteen ninety three Pro Football Hall of Fame

562
00:24:29,748 --> 00:24:33,428
Speaker 2: induction speech, Walter Payton recognized the impact we all can

563
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Speaker 2: have on each other's lives, and the legacy of the

564
00:24:35,948 --> 00:24:38,988
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven NFL Man of the Year lives on

565
00:24:39,108 --> 00:24:42,308
Speaker 2: through the actions and service of all the winners of

566
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Speaker 2: that award, which now bears his name, including Derek Brooks,

567
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Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, Marty Lyons, Troy Vincent and work done.

568
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Speaker 9: If you put forth the effort and you take a

569
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Speaker 9: little time, they would stand up here and they would

570
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Speaker 9: tell you that everything that they had on paper and

571
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Speaker 9: everything that they had in their hearts did not come

572
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Speaker 9: from them solely alone, but it came from the number

573
00:25:03,188 --> 00:25:05,988
Speaker 9: of people that have helped them and their met along

574
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Speaker 9: the way, such as.

575
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Speaker 10: I The Walter Payton Man of the Year award is

576
00:25:10,948 --> 00:25:14,548
Speaker 10: the Nobel Peace Price of the National Football League. It

577
00:25:14,668 --> 00:25:19,028
Speaker 10: is what represents community service, empathy, passion.

578
00:25:19,468 --> 00:25:21,988
Speaker 11: It's about making this world a better place.

579
00:25:22,628 --> 00:25:24,628
Speaker 12: To make a difference, all you have to do is care.

580
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Speaker 13: That trophy has incredible significance because it's a reminder of

581
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Speaker 13: how I want to live life.

582
00:25:31,628 --> 00:25:34,828
Speaker 14: Doing good does not have a shelf life your career does.

583
00:25:35,468 --> 00:25:44,228
Speaker 14: Let's go change the world. I hate the dumb jock stereotype.

584
00:25:44,508 --> 00:25:47,788
Speaker 14: Still irritates me to today. I believe God gave me this

585
00:25:47,908 --> 00:25:51,788
Speaker 14: platform of the NFL to feed this mission bigger than football.

586
00:25:51,988 --> 00:25:55,108
Speaker 14: That has led me to be involved with education and

587
00:25:55,308 --> 00:25:58,388
Speaker 14: doing charitable work and show kids that we believe in them.

588
00:25:58,628 --> 00:26:01,068
Speaker 14: So I started a high school. You can affect more

589
00:26:01,148 --> 00:26:04,148
Speaker 14: than just fifty kids at a time. We're talking hundreds.

590
00:26:04,468 --> 00:26:07,348
Speaker 14: If you show kids that you believe in them, they'll respond.

591
00:26:07,628 --> 00:26:10,468
Speaker 14: They were wanted to go share the journey with others

592
00:26:10,508 --> 00:26:14,028
Speaker 14: behind them.

593
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Speaker 10: I'm a representative of the best of the best of

594
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Speaker 10: the National Football League, but our legacy is not on

595
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:24,268
Speaker 10: the football field. Growing up Entrant, New Jersey, it protected me,

596
00:26:24,908 --> 00:26:27,988
Speaker 10: it molded me. But in the seventies and the eighties,

597
00:26:28,348 --> 00:26:33,748
Speaker 10: the city was hit hard through crime drugs, so I

598
00:26:33,788 --> 00:26:37,228
Speaker 10: knew early on, if I ever had the platform, I

599
00:26:37,268 --> 00:26:40,148
Speaker 10: will give back to the city of Trenton. When we started,

600
00:26:40,228 --> 00:26:44,468
Speaker 10: we put all of our attention into education. Some places

601
00:26:44,508 --> 00:26:48,468
Speaker 10: we show up the school systems. They just need mentorship.

602
00:26:48,708 --> 00:26:52,108
Speaker 10: We want kids to be to compete. We all can

603
00:26:52,228 --> 00:26:54,988
Speaker 10: be role models in our own right with our families

604
00:26:55,028 --> 00:26:56,828
Speaker 10: and our children and our communities.

605
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Speaker 11: I think I was one of the best running backs

606
00:27:01,268 --> 00:27:05,788
Speaker 11: in the league, but I learned it's not just about football.

607
00:27:06,028 --> 00:27:09,588
Speaker 11: It's about impacting people off the field. My mom was

608
00:27:09,588 --> 00:27:13,988
Speaker 11: a bedros cited police officer, but one night, my mom

609
00:27:14,148 --> 00:27:18,988
Speaker 11: life was taken. Being the otis of six, the responsibility

610
00:27:19,148 --> 00:27:22,788
Speaker 11: all falls on me, so I had to step up.

611
00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:26,188
Speaker 11: My mom always wanted to become a homeowner. Homes for

612
00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:28,588
Speaker 11: the Holidays is a program that I started back in

613
00:27:28,708 --> 00:27:34,988
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety seven, and my mom.

614
00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:34,948
Speaker 4: That's what she would have wanted.

615
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:39,388
Speaker 13: My career, my life is very much surrounding the idea

616
00:27:39,428 --> 00:27:42,708
Speaker 13: of being an underdogar whether it was sitting on the

617
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,028
Speaker 13: bench for four years in college, or getting cut by

618
00:27:45,068 --> 00:27:47,508
Speaker 13: my first NFL team, or working in a grocery store,

619
00:27:47,628 --> 00:27:49,828
Speaker 13: it was never going to be a situation where somebody

620
00:27:49,908 --> 00:27:52,068
Speaker 13: just gave me a handout. It was going to have

621
00:27:52,108 --> 00:27:55,308
Speaker 13: to be earned. And I also realized that I couldn't

622
00:27:55,348 --> 00:27:56,548
Speaker 13: do it all on my own.

623
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Speaker 4: But it's somebody that.

624
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Speaker 13: Give me that opportunity to showcase the work, the skill,

625
00:28:00,988 --> 00:28:03,348
Speaker 13: the talents that I had, the work that we've done

626
00:28:03,388 --> 00:28:06,588
Speaker 13: in the community, trying to do those same things. I

627
00:28:06,628 --> 00:28:08,388
Speaker 13: want to keep my head on a swivel looking for

628
00:28:08,508 --> 00:28:11,828
Speaker 13: other people that need that opportunity so they can chase

629
00:28:11,908 --> 00:28:14,068
Speaker 13: their dream and they can live the life that they

630
00:28:14,108 --> 00:28:14,708
Speaker 13: want to live.

631
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Speaker 12: Nineteen eighty two, in the month of March really changed

632
00:28:19,628 --> 00:28:22,028
Speaker 12: my life. When I played with the Jets, we had

633
00:28:22,068 --> 00:28:25,788
Speaker 12: a great association with the Long Island Leukemia Society. The

634
00:28:25,908 --> 00:28:28,868
Speaker 12: child that I bonded with was a little boy named Keith.

635
00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:31,988
Speaker 12: And then all suddenly, out of nowhere, my father, who

636
00:28:32,108 --> 00:28:34,908
Speaker 12: was fifty eight, died of a massive heart attack. Two

637
00:28:34,988 --> 00:28:38,148
Speaker 12: days after my dad, Teith passed away, I needed a

638
00:28:38,268 --> 00:28:41,908
Speaker 12: vehicle that would allow me to move on, and I

639
00:28:41,948 --> 00:28:45,268
Speaker 12: started the Marty Lions Foundation. We raised money for terminally

640
00:28:45,268 --> 00:28:48,588
Speaker 12: ill children. They always say God gives everybody a gift.

641
00:28:48,908 --> 00:28:53,668
Speaker 12: He gave me two the ability to play football and

642
00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:54,508
Speaker 12: the ability to.

643
00:28:54,468 --> 00:28:55,388
Speaker 4: Help people.

644
00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:59,988
Speaker 14: Service at the highest level, and when you do that,

645
00:29:00,428 --> 00:29:03,068
Speaker 14: you become a champion above the game of football.

646
00:29:03,508 --> 00:29:05,388
Speaker 12: You don't have to be rich, you don't have to

647
00:29:05,428 --> 00:29:08,348
Speaker 12: be an NFL player. Are we all in this world

648
00:29:08,348 --> 00:29:12,148
Speaker 12: to make one another better? It's just who wants to deal.

649
00:29:12,108 --> 00:29:13,828
Speaker 4: With That's what keeps me going.

650
00:29:14,028 --> 00:29:17,428
Speaker 11: How we impact the next generation if we show them

651
00:29:17,588 --> 00:29:18,668
Speaker 11: anything as possible.

652
00:29:18,668 --> 00:29:19,948
Speaker 4: But you have to do your regard.

653
00:29:20,348 --> 00:29:24,268
Speaker 13: Whoever you are, wherever you are, you have an opportunity

654
00:29:24,308 --> 00:29:28,908
Speaker 13: to impact the lives of other people. Don't miss your opportunity.

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Speaker 10: This is your true legacy. Not the touchdowns, not the interceptions.

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Speaker 10: This is about making a difference. Let's get to work.

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Speaker 3: Incredible work, inspiring work.

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Speaker 2: You can head over to the NFL Fast Channel for

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Speaker 2: a special today as we lead up to a celebration

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Speaker 2: of Walter Payton's birthday. We're going to air Legacy of Legends,

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Speaker 2: We've got more gmfbe coming up after this.

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Speaker 4: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to GMFB.

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Speaker 6: I had the chance to rank my top ten linebackers

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Speaker 6: currently playing today. You could check it out at the

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Speaker 6: NFL dot Com slash tell O te Oh, no.

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Speaker 4: Apostrophe, just Teo.

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Speaker 6: But I have a little game that I want to

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Speaker 6: play with my co hosts. What I'm gonna do is

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna show number ten through number six, and then

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Speaker 6: we're gonna blind rank my one through five.

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Speaker 4: But first let's see the ten through six. First, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna explain a.

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Speaker 6: Little bit why these guys are on my list.

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Speaker 4: So here's ten through six.

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Speaker 6: Ten Frankie Louvu nine, Denzel Paraman eight, Nick Bolton seven,

677
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Speaker 6: Zach Bond six, Alex Anzeloni Frankie Louvu. I think having

678
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Speaker 6: Bobby Wagner and Bobby Wagner next to him has been

679
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Speaker 6: a great upgrade for him. He played as best ball

680
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Speaker 6: last year. Denzel Peraman my little brother again, guys, this

681
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Speaker 6: is my top ten. I've never seen somebody play the

682
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Speaker 6: linebacker position like Denzel Perriman. For you young kids, just

683
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Speaker 6: typing Denzel Pairman on.

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Speaker 4: YouTube and watch his hits.

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Speaker 6: Nick Bolton, there's the reason why that defense for Spags

686
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Speaker 6: is what it is, and it starts in the middle

687
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Speaker 6: with Nick Bolton, Zach Vond talk about an underdog story,

688
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Speaker 6: talk about a perfect fit for the Philadelphia Eagles. He

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Speaker 6: was that guy in the middle. It's somebody that I

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Speaker 6: love watching in Zach vond Now number six, Alex san Zelney,

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Speaker 6: my little brother. We drafted him out of Florida to

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Speaker 6: New Orleans. I have never seen a more athletic linebacker,

693
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Speaker 6: somebody that can move laterally as fast as he can.

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Speaker 4: We saw his.

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Speaker 6: Impact when he came back into after injury last year

696
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Speaker 6: for the Detroit Lions and what impact that had on

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Speaker 6: his team.

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Speaker 4: So that is my ten through six guys.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So now we're gonna blind rank the next five. Okay,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna start with a linebacker that I love. Okay, guys, ready, Okay,

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Speaker 6: there's no changing. Okay, there's no change once you put

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Speaker 6: the name down, there's no changing. First up, Dre Greenlaw.

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Speaker 6: Guys ranked Dray green Loan one through five. You think

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Speaker 6: that I have Drake Greenlaw when I watched Drake Greenlaw play.

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Speaker 6: I've said this on the show many times. Before you

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Speaker 6: think about the San Francisco forty nine ers, you think

707
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Speaker 6: about the dominance of that defense. Obviously Fred Warner has

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Speaker 6: talked about a lot, But for Drake Greenlaw, he is

709
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Speaker 6: the engine of that defense. You saw when he was

710
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Speaker 6: in the game. It just looked different. His teammates played different.

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Speaker 6: They played with violence, Willy and we love violence on

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Speaker 6: the show, and Drake Greenlaw continues to play with that violence.

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Speaker 6: And I know it's going to continue over there in Denver.

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Speaker 6: Everybody got yeah, everybody?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 6: Let me see where do you have them? Four for Sarah,

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Speaker 6: three for Willie? And where do you got him at

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Speaker 6: for for drink?

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Speaker 4: Okay for for dre Okay, We're we have a pretty

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Speaker 4: good start.

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Speaker 3: Oh we're revealing right now.

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Speaker 6: Not yet, not yet. I got I got four more

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Speaker 6: second guy guys, Roquan Smith, where do you have Where

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Speaker 6: do you think I put Rokwan Smith on my top

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Speaker 6: five linebackers now?

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Speaker 4: Qan. I played with Roquan when he was.

727
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Speaker 6: A Chicago Bears my last year in the NFL, and

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Speaker 6: let me tell you, the guy was one of the

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Speaker 6: smartest linebackers and natural leader.

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Speaker 4: He studied more film than anybody.

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Speaker 6: He got everybody lined up, and he's a guy that

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Speaker 6: I think going to Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: That's hard to fill the shoes of.

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Speaker 6: The middle linebacker when you have somebody like ray Lewis

735
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Speaker 6: that has played with them forever. But number zero for

736
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Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens continues to be that guy for them.

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Speaker 6: So where do you guys have Rokwan Smith? Oh, number two? Okay, okay, Willie,

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Speaker 6: you got him at number two as well. You have

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Speaker 6: him at number three?

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Speaker 4: Okay, strong start guy, strong starts.

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Speaker 6: So number three, next guy, Bobby Wagner the OG, A

742
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Speaker 6: guy that I've watched.

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Speaker 4: Throughout my career.

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Speaker 6: There's very rarely do I see other linebackers that I

745
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Speaker 6: try to exemplify what they do.

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Speaker 4: He was one of.

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Speaker 6: Those guys that I watched play time ever since you

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Speaker 6: went to Seattle, watched his game and try to duplicate

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Speaker 6: the things that he did. Now we all talk about

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Speaker 6: the Washington Commanders. We talked about Jaden Daniels, we talk

751
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Speaker 6: about the resurgence with dan Quinn. We don't talk a

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Speaker 6: lot about Bobby Wagner. There's a reason why dan Quinn

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Speaker 6: Bock brought Bobby Wagner to Washington, and there's the reason

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Speaker 6: why Frankie Louell has has had his best year, and

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Speaker 6: a lot of it had to do with number fifty

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Speaker 6: four in the middle.

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Speaker 4: So where do you guys have Bobby Wagner on the list?

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Speaker 4: Sarah three, three, Okay, okay, where you got Mitch?

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Speaker 5: I got I got number one?

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Speaker 4: One? How about you, Willie? I got four? Fourth? Got

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Speaker 4: to bring fourth? Okay, okay, all right, we're almost there. Fourth. Fourth. Guys.

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Speaker 6: Fred Warner, Fred Warner, now Fred Warner, to call him

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Speaker 6: all pro Fred. He's the best linebacker that they've seen

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Speaker 6: since the war Bowman time, Patrick Willis's time. He's carried

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Speaker 6: on the excellence at the linebacker position. His ability to

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Speaker 6: get the ball and take the ball away, his ability.

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Speaker 4: To run sideline to sil and you see a little

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Speaker 4: bit of.

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Speaker 6: His safety background when he's out there playing, his ability

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Speaker 6: to play in space. He's FAST's physic cool, and it

771
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Speaker 6: makes a lot of plays on the football. Fred Warner

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Speaker 6: is considered one of the best linebackers in the NFL

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Speaker 6: today and has been for the past five to six years,

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Speaker 6: and he will continue to be that for the San

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Speaker 6: Francis Reporting nine ers.

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Speaker 4: So, guys, where do you have Fred Warner?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Number one? Sarah got him at number one? Willy, where

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Speaker 6: you got him at one as well?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got him a number two.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna okay, So, so Sarah you have left Mitch,

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Speaker 6: where do you have what do you have five left?

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Speaker 6: I have five left as well, and then Willie, you

784
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Speaker 6: have what five?

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Speaker 4: Or what do you have? The glare? I just got

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Speaker 4: the same thing. Everybody got five left? All right? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right, guys.

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Speaker 6: Well, last, but not least, I got the veteran Levonte

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Speaker 6: David for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You talk about consistency,

790
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Speaker 6: how many linebackers have played next to him? Yet fifty

791
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Speaker 6: four is a constant for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. One

792
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Speaker 6: of the smartest linebackers to play the game of football,

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Speaker 6: one of the most consistent linebackers that played the game

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Speaker 6: of football. He plays a weak side linebacker position, which

795
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Speaker 6: often times is in space and Levonte David has been

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Speaker 6: in the NFL for thirteen seasons and thirteen seasons and

797
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Speaker 6: has looks like he hasn't lots of step. So going

798
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Speaker 6: forward to the NFC South returning Tamps, Levonte David will

799
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Speaker 6: continue to hold down the middle for that defense and

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to it behind Vito vel So where

801
00:36:24,188 --> 00:36:25,948
Speaker 6: you guys got him? Obviously you guys all got him

802
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Speaker 6: at number five.

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Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about that? Guys all agreed.

804
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Speaker 2: Against We didn't have a choice it was our last,

805
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Speaker 2: it was ours.

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Speaker 5: I have to commend you. These are five remarkable line.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Mick, they really are, thank you,

808
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Speaker 5: really well done.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's see how my co hosts have done. Guys.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna reveal the top five and see how it

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Speaker 6: matched up with your guys' list.

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Speaker 4: So this is my top five.

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Speaker 6: Number one, I got Bobby Wagner, number two, I've got

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Speaker 6: Fred Warner, three, Dre Greenlaw for Levonte David five, ro

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Speaker 6: Kwan Smith. There's no way that I couldn't put Bobby

816
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Speaker 6: Wagner at number one.

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Speaker 4: Guys, it was just.

818
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Speaker 6: Just one of those ogs. Man Like there's Ray Lewis

819
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Speaker 6: and then there's Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 4: Put him up, Sarah, there's a list and not bad,

821
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Speaker 4: not bad, guys.

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Speaker 6: It's the closest. Mitch is pretty close. Bobby Wagner won.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 12: Mitch.

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Speaker 6: We see it the same way now, guys, Lineman, Mitch

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Speaker 6: and Willie, how do you guys see this list? Obviously

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Speaker 6: you guys are gonna you guys were the ones that

828
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Speaker 6: had to block these guys. How do you see that

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Speaker 6: list from a Lineman perspective?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll start us off. I mean, Bobby Wagner, like

831
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Speaker 5: you alluded to, I think he's just a one in

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Speaker 5: a million type of linebackers still at his age, put

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Speaker 5: up some remarkable numbers easy number one. Especially playing him,

834
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Speaker 5: It's just he's just a different guy.

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Speaker 4: Fred Warner.

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Speaker 5: What surprised me when I met Fred was just his

837
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Speaker 5: his demeanor, his stature, and then hearing this command of

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00:37:51,988 --> 00:37:53,628
Speaker 5: that whole defense is cool.

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Speaker 4: Roquan.

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Speaker 5: I think you talk about the anf C North, you

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Speaker 5: have that division. Rokwan Smith and is the pinnacle of

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Speaker 5: that defense and is right in the conversation for that

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Speaker 5: whole thing. Drake green Law, I think, like you said,

844
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Speaker 5: it's coming off that Achilles is playing really good football.

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Speaker 5: The Leavonte David thirteen years. He's one of my favorite

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Speaker 5: players of all time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the only guys I've actually only played against on

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Speaker 7: his list is Bobby Wagner, Devonte Davis. Fred Warner, for

849
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Speaker 7: me to me, is the best linebacker in the league period.

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Speaker 7: Roquan Swift obviously everybody knows his resume. Hugh was a

851
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Speaker 7: great ball play. Drake gren Law, even coming off injury.

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Speaker 7: Now that I think he's with the Broncos, right now

853
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Speaker 7: I expect him to have an impact coming off any

854
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Speaker 7: Bobby Wagner is the OG as we stayed it plenty

855
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Speaker 7: of times. But overall, if I have to crown anybody

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Speaker 7: amongst the linebacker group, it would be Fred Water Mantet.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, I love that you have

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Speaker 2: Levante in your top five because he is perennially I

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Speaker 2: think underrated. I think a lot of people think he's

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Speaker 2: been underrated in his time in Tampa. Entering his fourteenth season,

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Speaker 2: and this sort of embodies who Levante is. He shows

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Speaker 2: up to practice yesterday, talks to the media and says, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm out here.

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Speaker 3: I have to earn my stripes. No you don't. You're

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Speaker 3: Levonte David, you don't.

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Speaker 2: But that's been his mentality and we saw some via

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Speaker 2: him running. Annie sends a lot of track workouts this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this man is on the track, sprinting. It

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Speaker 2: just leads this team in tackles. He's incredible. He's the

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Speaker 2: guy that answers the questions when things aren't easy.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's so easy when things are great, right, this is

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Speaker 2: the guy that speaks for this team when there are

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Speaker 2: tough times down there. So everyone that knows Levante loves him,

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad you're showing him some love too.

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Speaker 6: I got to show we got some love. So again,

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Speaker 6: that's my top ten list. You can see at NFL

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Speaker 6: dot com slash t e oh.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's got his own handle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me check it out. Guys, let me know

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Speaker 4: what you think.

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Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner get him.

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Speaker 1: Wow