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Speaker 2: We'll just have to wait.

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Speaker 3: He the ducks don't speak English.

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Speaker 2: Now these ducks have made us ate.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, swear and welcome to the No Dunks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, April eleventh, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jasks here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 4: Get it in.

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Speaker 1: a May five star Friday. I don't know how quickly

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Speaker 3: Oh version, Oh, the Australian version Philippines. Sure, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Focus.

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Speaker 3: All right, fun show here today. A little bit later,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna revisit some of our over underpicks from the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna break it down how we did. Spoiler, not brutal,

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Speaker 3: but also not great, pretty average. But we'll go through

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Speaker 3: some of our best bets, maybe some of our worst ones.

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Speaker 3: Talking out I'll obviously I have tweeted the night as well,

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Speaker 3: but some big games on last night. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: the big one at the top of the West. Jokic

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Speaker 3: and the Nuggets reclaim that top seed in the West

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Timberwolves. Yo Kich forty one points, sixteen of twenty

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Speaker 3: There were one of the best defenders for the past decade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the best defenders against Nicole Jokich, I'd

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Speaker 4: thought it was just a very fun game from the

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was just a fun game where it

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Speaker 3: It was no dunk in one minute of a close

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Speaker 1: Yeah, squshed tans on one of them. That was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was place exploded. The lead ballooned, and then

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Speaker 4: The way he dunks the ball over and over and

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Speaker 4: that was awesome to see with yes, point guard number two,

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Speaker 3: The Nuggets are best in the West thirty three and

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Speaker 3: now in that one spot. Wolves down to two Thunder three.

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Speaker 3: we could We could get Jokic versus Luca in a

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Speaker 4: If the Denver win, I just say it was important

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Speaker 3: So Lucas scored twenty nine, Kyrie had twenty five. The

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Speaker 3: MAVs rolled past the Heat one eleven ninety two to

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Speaker 3: Gafford has another streak going where you can't miss. I

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Speaker 1: Lucas really making a push for MVP here, and I

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Speaker 1: thought that when this game ended, you're seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: I know Dallas is twenty four and seven in those

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we all we're all guilty of it.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt fifty wins is a good mark for

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Speaker 4: just buying into Jason Kidd defensively as well. Yes, they visit,

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 4: Luco didn't look good, didn't look like he cared at

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Speaker 4: He is playing his best ball. And so those two guys.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it.

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Speaker 4: play in tournament right now. They could They actually could

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Speaker 4: Magic lost against the Milwaukee Bucks and we're all talking, well,

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Speaker 4: not a problem. It's if the Magic will lose twice,

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Speaker 4: The Heat will win, but they're not gonna win in

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Speaker 2: No, I can't. I know.

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Speaker 4: I know everybody saw last year what they did. Obviously

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Speaker 4: doesn't look right. What he's looking for every single possession,

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Speaker 2: So that ain't right.

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Speaker 4: But anyways, are just messed up. We got a few

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Speaker 3: There's three nights of regular season basketball left because there's

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Speaker 3: So we got it tonight, we got Friday, and then

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Speaker 1: It's seriously, it's so strange.

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Speaker 4: They back to back, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: Let's show you the playoff picture, because we've usually been

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Speaker 3: The Suns beat the Clippers. Nobody played for the Clippers,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be Clips MAVs. What third round year

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Speaker 3: we see right now, this could change after tonight. The

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Speaker 3: impressive win. The Bucks though two and oh if Patrick

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Speaker 1: I love this kid.

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Speaker 2: He's probably right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe so the ball moves at least with Beverly there

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Speaker 4: Hopefully play Yeah, yes, absolutely, and he's going to fight

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Speaker 4: That guys said hook shots two straight games.

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was the problem his entire career. Both my

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Speaker 3: We also had someone returned from a hand injury. Trey

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Speaker 3: But the Hornets spoiled his return to the Hawks. They

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Speaker 4: The Hawks really don't want to play in tournament at home?

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Speaker 3: They're like, okay, I guess what, Let's go to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It was a great city.

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Speaker 1: Let's Skyhawks play. Yeah, literally more Gay was in, Kobe

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Speaker 3: Eat my guy.

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Speaker 1: He played twelve minutes in the fourth quarter. That was weird.

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Speaker 1: They completely punted the fourth quarter. They did, but they punted.

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Speaker 3: I would argue the game really. De Jontae Murray didn't play. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he's got a right quad injury. I'm sure he could

432
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Speaker 3: have fought through it. DeAndre Hunter rest rest okay, so

433
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 3: they really don't care. And Jalen Johnson, Yeah, a little

434
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 3: ankle sprain, I get that, but like again, I feel

435
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 3: like all three of those guys could have played if

436
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 3: they were like, we gotta have the night seed to

437
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 3: help our chances. But yeah, you're right. They sort of

438
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,959
Speaker 3: punted at the start of the game. Then they were

439
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 3: in it, they were up big, then they sat Trey

440
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 3: Young in the fourth, then the Hornets pulled it out. Weird.

441
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they won't get fined by the league because Trey

442
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 4: Young played. But look at what Memphis did. Memphis was

443
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 4: playing Cleveland and had twelve guys twelve guys twelve on

444
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,959
Speaker 4: the injury report that they didn't play. Twelve That is wild.

445
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 4: Santiel Dama, Desmond Baine, Brandon Clark, Jared Jackson Junior, Luke Kennard,

446
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 4: John Concert, John Morant, Derek Rose, Marcus mart Utah watching Abi,

447
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 4: Vince Williams Junior, another Williams, Zier Williams. All guys didn't play.

448
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 4: They played eight guys in that game just to lose,

449
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 4: so they should be fine.

450
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys could.

451
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 4: Have played, not all of them, but no, no, not Morant,

452
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 4: not Marcus Smart, not the guys who are really important,

453
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 4: but a lot of their guys teams are just pulling

454
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: the plug a little.

455
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Speaker 2: Bit for sure.

456
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 3: Young said his goal is to work up to a

457
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: normal load of minutes by the team's final regular season game, because,

458
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: like I said, he only played twenty one and you know,

459
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 3: it was funny. He was almost looked like he was

460
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: playing with one hand for good. Yeah, but he put

461
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 3: five for five. His first basket though, was with the

462
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: hand with the bracelet. There's a little left hand layup inside.

463
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: Left he layout he had a lefty oop. But I

464
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: actually didn't think he he looked rusty and he looked

465
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: like he wasn't playing the same style. He had a

466
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: twenty four percent usage rate last night. He's a thirty

467
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: one for the season, and obviously no Murray means that

468
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 1: Trey could have definitely taken more possessions. I thought there

469
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 1: was a ton of times where you know, it might

470
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: be Vat bringing the ball up or Bogdanovitch bringing the

471
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: ball up, and Trace just hanging out in the corner.

472
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: You could tell he hadn't played for a month and

473
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Speaker 1: a half. So theoretically he'll get better but he wasn't

474
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: in the lane all that much. He's protecting his hands

475
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 1: so he can be healthy for their one playing game.

476
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Speaker 3: You know it's going out.

477
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bulls. The Bulls number is one. I said on

478
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: yesterday's show. They don't get a magic number when you're

479
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: clinching nine and ten. We need a name for it.

480
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: It's their static number. Their static number is one. Because

481
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: Steph No tweeted that the Bulls and the Hawks have

482
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Speaker 1: been in the nine and ten seed every day in

483
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference since January fifteenth. Wow, they have not

484
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: moved either of them.

485
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: So basically the Celtics have been in the number one

486
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: spot since probably then, if not before.

487
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Yes, these two teams, I've just nine and ten the

488
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: whole time. Hawks have never got to nine, Bulls have

489
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: never dropped the ten. They just stayed there for two

490
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: half months. All those three months. Man, it's depressing for

491
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: those teams.

492
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 3: That means it's very depressing for our team that's never

493
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: even like challenging them. Rap, it's depressing for some of

494
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 3: the teams that are around them, Like it's not like

495
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: they've been in lights out. These teams obviously crazy wild Wow,

496
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 3: that's a crazy tweet. Okay, well, are you gonna fly

497
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: home to Chicago for the nine ten game?

498
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm

499
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: going to Game three against the Celtics.

500
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I got cha. So you got the Bulls

501
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: beating the Hawks and then beating you know, it could

502
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: be the Heat.

503
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would love to beat the Magic.

504
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's who I would love to beat.

505
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: Booch back in Orlando, fifty piece.

506
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: Wow, this story right there, All right, let's get to

507
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: some other news well off of those Hawks. According to

508
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: NBA insider Mark Stein, the Hawks are likely to trade

509
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: either trade Young or de Jantey Murray this offseason.

510
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

511
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: We've heard these rumblings for a while, but Stein reported, Uh,

512
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: I guess it was in February that one person acquainted

513
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: with Atlanta's Dynamics said the team knows it has to

514
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: trade one or the other. So Stein's got somebody on

515
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: the inside from the Atlanta organization saying, yeah, we know

516
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: we got to move off of one of them. Again.

517
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: This is something we've talked about. I know it's something

518
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: we're going to continue to talk about. I feel like

519
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: that's just where we're at with this team. Because they're

520
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: disappointing and they pay well. De Jontay Murray's contract's gonna

521
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: jump up here. What he makes after his contract extension

522
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: that he signed last July kicks in next season. You

523
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 3: can't have two guys like this that make pretty good

524
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: money here and in your backcourt and like be a

525
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: sub five hundred team. So he almost feels like you

526
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: almost have to make a decision and move.

527
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Speaker 2: One of them.

528
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, unless you're getting a spectacular defender to

529
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: be the center, to be that type of guy to

530
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: help out defensively, because their offense is still damn good.

531
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Speaker 2: But yes, they have to.

532
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Speaker 4: Evaluate what the heck they are because I think what

533
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 4: Stein is writing, and maybe his inside guy is John

534
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: Hollinger who writes for The Athletic, who basically said the

535
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: same thing at the end of February, this is kind

536
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 4: of a sliding doors moment. We've had Trey here in

537
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: Atlanta for six years and the team has been fairly

538
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: similar for a long time until they got to Jante Murray.

539
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: So maybe him out. Let's the Hawks front office just

540
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: evaluate and understand what they are for the first time

541
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: in six years, essentially because trade is durable as heck,

542
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: he's been playing a lot throughout his years. And they

543
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: went twelve and eleven without Trey Young. So same old Hawks.

544
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really the five hundred team, that's what

545
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 4: they are. But that's, as Hollinger wrote, Young's injury is

546
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: by far the most interesting thing to happen in a

547
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 4: mostly forgettable season.

548
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: It is.

549
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: It's been a forgettable season. And after the year, though,

550
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: they have to think about things for sure, unless again,

551
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: because this team was really, really good. It went to

552
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: the conference finals with a spectacular Clint Compel, But Clint

553
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: Compell ain't the same guy. They need a guy who's

554
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: a great defender back there. And after the season things change.

555
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 4: The Lakers accumulate more drafticks that they could trade for

556
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: Tree Young. They could have three first round picks for

557
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: Trey Young. And I say that because Trey and Anthony

558
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 4: Davis blockingshots would be fantastic and that could be something different.

559
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: But yes, the Hawks are probably gonna trade one guy.

560
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you go out to any bar here in Atlanta,

561
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: talk to any basketball fan, either a die hard or

562
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: even a casual, and you talk about the Hawks. You

563
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: talk about how disappointing the season has been oh Man.

564
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: I thought the defense would be better, and then you

565
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: immediately get to Trey the idea of like, well, which

566
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: one are they moving? Who should they move? That becomes

567
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: the debate should they look to trade de Jontey Murray

568
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: or should they look to trade Trey Young? Do you

569
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: have an opinion on that?

570
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: While they tried to trade Murray, they did do one

571
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, because they know his contract is getting

572
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: more expensive and he maybe makes you a five hundred team.

573
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: And they've had two years of evidence the Hawks do that.

574
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: De Jonte Murray and Trey Young together, you're gonna be

575
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: a five hundred team this season. Fourteen and fourteen without

576
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: Trey two and two without de Johonta Murray put him

577
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: together minus six per one hundred possessions. When they're on

578
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: the court together, it just doesn't work. And they've got

579
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: a lot of picks going out in twenty five, twenty six,

580
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven, all going to the Spurs. Right now, they

581
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: would get Sacramento's twenty four first round pick in this draft,

582
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: but the Kings are really sliding right now. They could

583
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: it's a top fourteen protected pick. The Kings could end

584
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: up kick keeping that pick and then it would transfer

585
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: in twenty five. But that's just spending too much money

586
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: and too much draft capital for a team that is

587
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: stuck in the play in tournament time after time. So

588
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: it's more likely I think that Trey Young gets traded

589
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: at this point because he will bring back more than

590
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: jon De Murrie.

591
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. He also, I mean

592
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: when you look at the deals for both these guys.

593
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: Murray's four year, one hundred and fourteen million dollars contract extension, again,

594
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: it kicks in next season, so that's got him making

595
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: what about twenty five million at the start of that

596
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: in twenty four to twenty five. Trey Young he makes

597
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: forty three million dollars next season. He's got two more

598
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: guaranteed years left on that contract. He does have an

599
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: early termination option where it's like forty nine million down

600
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: the line in twenty six seven. So that's I mean,

601
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: we're almost we're talking almost double Treyung's contract to do

602
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: Jeon de Murrie. Trey Young's a better player, I'm not

603
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: sure he's twice as good as to jeh Jhonty Murray,

604
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 3: at least in this Hawk system. He hasn't proven to

605
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: be that. So, yeah, the return that you would get

606
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: for a player of Trey Young's caliber, you could get

607
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: some draft picks back, maybe you get a young prospect

608
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: or too, and then you just go with de Jontay

609
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Murray as your guy. It's not great because then you're terrified. Well,

610
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: you know it's gonna happen. I mean, Trey Young's gonna

611
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: come back into this bar and in the Fortress with

612
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: the Lakers with whoever he goes to and light the

613
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: rass up. You better hope to trade under the Western

614
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Conference to only see it once. Yeah, because boy, you

615
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: can picture it. You can literally picture it happening. But

616
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's what they'll do here.

617
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you brought up the Spurs and I always think

618
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: about de Jhontay Murray leaving the Spurs the year after

619
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 4: he was an All Star and they got a lot

620
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: for him when they were what was a thirty four

621
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: and forty eight and they said, you know what, our

622
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: best player were dealing him and they got worse, and

623
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: obviously it's turned out extremely well for them. But yeah,

624
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: the Hawk's front office was taking calls for de Jontay Murray.

625
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't any we're close to what the Spurs got

626
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: obviously because of just how he was playing with Tree

627
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: Jung and how that worked out. And then you see

628
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: him sometimes, you know, by himself in a different role. Yeah,

629
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: he's he's they it's it's obviously good, but they just

630
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: can't have the same guy ripsidech other like that type

631
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: of type of player anyways, where everything goes through him.

632
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: According to ESPN's Woes, the Celtics and Drew Holiday have

633
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: agreed on a four year, one hundred and thirty five

634
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: million dollar extension that will commence next season. Holiday is

635
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: going to decline his thirty seven million dollar player option

636
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: that he had a place for twenty four to twenty

637
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: five season in order to secure this long term deal.

638
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: This game sort of you know, out of nowhere last night, TK,

639
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: What do you think of the Celtics and Drew Holiday

640
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: four years, one hundred and thirty five mili.

641
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: Great deal for Drew Holiday. That guy's gonna be making

642
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: a lot of money until he's very old, yeah, because

643
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: his contract is going to pay him until he's thirty

644
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: eight years old. So I'm like, who else is about

645
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: that age? And what are they making? Like obviously Lebron

646
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: is in the mix, Al Horford is in the mix,

647
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: and then the guy that I thought was kind of

648
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: similar to Drew Hollidays, Mike Conley. He's gonna be making

649
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: ten million dollars when he's thirty eight years old. I

650
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: think that's a better deal for the team. But you

651
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: can see why they would want to keep Drew around.

652
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: He's a great defender. He's having literally the best three

653
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: point shooting season ever from the corners, shooting sixty two percent,

654
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: which ESPN says is the highest percentage of anybody with

655
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: fifty or more attempts in league history since they started

656
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: tracking it. So he fits in perfectly there. So I

657
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: think good for him, good for them keeping the core together.

658
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: I doubt he finishes his contract in Boston just because

659
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna get so expensive, and you know, logistically and

660
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: like legally in the in the bylaws of the NBA,

661
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: they can keep everybody the Celtics can going forward, but

662
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: it becomes a matter of how much does their ownership

663
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: want to spend, how much luxury tax, and how okay

664
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: are they with being completely over the second Apron because

665
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: they're guaranteed to be a second Apron team with Jason Tatum,

666
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: super Max common Jalen Brown's contract in if they want

667
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: to keep Derek White after next season, they're gonna have

668
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: to pay him. So I kind of think this season

669
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: or next season is it for the Celtics to win

670
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: the title.

671
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about them winning as to how much they

672
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: pay for all their guys. Like, if they continue to win,

673
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: then yeah, we're gonna overpay because we have a perfect chemistry.

674
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: And that's what Drew Holliday has somehow manifested his career

675
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: into it.

676
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: It has worked out really really well for him.

677
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: You know, he started with Philly and then he went

678
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: to New Orleans where things didn't really work out.

679
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: All that well.

680
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: He was having success, but they weren't winning playoff series.

681
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: And then Milwaukee decided, oh, yeah, we like this guy.

682
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: We're going to overpay. They paid a lot. I use

683
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: the word overpay. They paid a lot and then they

684
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: won and then he was perfect. And that's what could

685
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: be happening here with the Boston Celtics, as well as

686
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: being a complimentary guy because he said the corner shooting

687
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: as well as a three point line period. This is

688
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: his career high in terms of just three point shooting,

689
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: and yeah, he's gonna make money that a lot of

690
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: other people aren't making because, as ESPN or reported, he'll

691
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: become the fourth player to sign a guaranteed deal with

692
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: worth more than one hundred million at thirty three or older.

693
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: And you mentioned the guys Horford, Lebron and Curry are

694
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: the only other guys. So this guy, he's a number

695
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: seventeen pick way back when when he was nineteen years old,

696
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: and this contract will take him to his nineteenth season

697
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: that he's going to play when he'll be thirty eight

698
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: years old.

699
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: So it is a career.

700
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: I think that just panned out perfectly when they went

701
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: and got him in Milwaukee. Milwaukee obviously changed direction. It's

702
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: an interesting move by them.

703
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Got Damian Lillard, Drew Haliday was on the Blazers for

704
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: what four days, yea, something like that, and then the

705
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: Celtics swept in there with Brogden. I guess time lower

706
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: a couple of picks and got dru and then he

707
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: got the extension here. Now the extension hits at a

708
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: lower average annual salary and saves the Celtics some you know,

709
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: immediate tax money. So that's good, but significant commitment. To

710
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: a guy that's getting up there in age, but still

711
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: when you had the three point shooting at least in

712
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: the regular season, can he do it in the playoffs.

713
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: We've seen him at times struggle from deep in the playoff.

714
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's still a great perimeter defender. He just

715
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: fits perfectly. They are I'm with you, TK, this is hell. Yeah,

716
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: we gotta win this title now this year or maybe

717
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: at the very least next year, and then I'm not

718
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: sure if they don't, they'll be changes that could be that.

719
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: It could include like Jalen Brown or something like that

720
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: at that point. If not true Holidy too.

721
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like at this point, one of the biggest

722
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: things that's gonna happen for the Celtics team building wise,

723
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: is z Al Horford is getting ready to retire pretty soon.

724
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: Like if they win the championship this year, maybe he's

725
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: not on the team. He says, see you later. I

726
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: can finally retire now that they got a chip and

727
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: that would save them some money. But yeah, otherwise they

728
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they can pay that. They can do it

729
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: if they want to. They can pay like the most

730
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: expensive roster bill in history, right, they could absolutely do that.

731
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: But will they who knows, especially if like they keep

732
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: having incredible regular seasons and then coming up just short

733
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that you're gonna change something up.

734
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: Eventually, moving on to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who said

735
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: Wednesday afternoon that Raptors forward Johntay Porter, who is under

736
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: investigation by the league following multiple instances of betting irregularities

737
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: over the past several months, he could be banned permanently

738
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: if what he's accused of is true, and Silver called

739
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: this a cardinal sin, the whole Porter betting scandal again

740
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: if it is found out to be true. He had

741
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: a lot more to say too about some other things,

742
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: but this is getting all the headlines here him saying, hey,

743
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: I could do it. I got the level of authority,

744
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: and he is taking it very seriously. This betting on

745
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: games as players.

746
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: Was he asked specifically about that or did he just

747
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: start talking.

748
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: I believe he was asked about it.

749
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because these are the first comments he's made

750
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: about it. Yes, it's been a couple of weeks since

751
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: it happened. And I like the terminology he used, the

752
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: cardinal sin, the integrity of the game. This is what

753
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: it comes down to you can't gamble on your own game.

754
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: So I like all that. I just find it a

755
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: long time that this investigation is happening, Like why.

756
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Does it take so long?

757
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: I know it's two weeks and that's not a long time,

758
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: but I mean I checked the tape and to see

759
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: Johntay Porter running off the floor and saying, my eye hurts,

760
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: I've got gotta sit me out because he had an

761
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: aggravated eye injury, or he ran off the floor and

762
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: said I'm sick when it looked like he needed to

763
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: use the facilities like air quotes sick.

764
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: Because he had bet on himself. Well yeah, that's what

765
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: it looks like, allegedly bet on himself on the unders.

766
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: On the unders, yes, yeah, so he needs to get

767
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: out of the floor. But I just I'm just perplexed

768
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: how this takes so long. I guess they're just doing

769
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: their due diligence, but it shouldn't take that long. There's

770
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: got to be a TV show out there that should

771
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: be doing it, you know what I mean, Like there

772
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: should there should be some inspection, get the watcher on

773
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: this or whatever, like something to turn it around.

774
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: Quicker.

775
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: Feels like a long time but maybe he's planning a

776
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: seed because he knows it has happened.

777
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe what'd you think of a Silver's remarks here,

778
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: Probably gotta dot your eyes and cross your tees if

779
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna ban a guy for white there.

780
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happened since nineteen sixty six that somebody's been

781
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: banned for gambling, but it happened all the time in

782
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties, all kinds of crazy names. When

783
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: you go to the Wikipedia page for player's band for

784
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: all time, all the other ones are for drugs in

785
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, no surprise. But yeah, he's basically laying

786
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: the groundwork for if this investigation goes the way it

787
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: seems like it may, we might be done with John

788
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: day Porter. And I think that would be the case

789
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: because the first time this happens, it looks the worst,

790
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: so they're gonna come down really hard on them. Yeah.

791
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: He also talked about that the NBA prefers gambling to

792
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: be out in the open, right because we've talked about it.

793
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: The NBA has gotten in bed with all these gambling sites.

794
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like every sport has, you know,

795
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 3: and they're incorporating into the broadcast and we talked about

796
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: them adding it to the app and all that, but

797
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: he's like, this is better because it's just happening, or

798
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: it was happening a lot more, you know, in the dark,

799
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: and then it's tougher to catch the irregularities than if

800
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: it is in the open, and that we can, you know,

801
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: it can be more easily discovered and we can penalize

802
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: I guess players that break it. He also said he

803
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: wanted the federal framework of the governing sports to sort

804
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: of take over all of these gambling issues and not

805
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: be so patchwork state by state. How it's different right now.

806
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: So that's what he's thinking as well. What definitely call

807
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: a lot of people by surprise. He calls it the

808
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: cardinal sin, and he says, how this is the worst

809
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: thing ever, and people go, well, there are players in

810
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: this league that have beat up their wives in front

811
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 3: of their children and done other very severe things and

812
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: this is the worst. I mean, Okay, you're getting into

813
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: semantics there, but still, yeah, I think Porter is going

814
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: to be banned. I think that you guys are right.

815
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: He's saying this to say, I have this authority and

816
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: if we are one hundred percent convinced, then we're gonna

817
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: have to send the message to this, you know, really,

818
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: let's be honest, like a no name player, because these

819
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: are the type of players it might be more likely

820
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: to do it. I guess yeah.

821
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: When it first happened, I thought it may take the

822
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: course of what the NFL has done, which is suspending

823
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: guy just for a season. But when looking back, those

824
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: players bet on other sports first of all at first,

825
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: and then even if there were betting on NFL, they

826
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: weren't betting on their own team, so it is a

827
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 4: little different, and I think, yeah, a full ban does

828
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: make sense in this instance.

829
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

830
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: Well, for the integrity of basketball, you have to do

831
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: one of two things. One get gambling as much as

832
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: you possibly can out of the NBA. Good luck putting,

833
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: you know, the toothpaste back in the tube there. Or

834
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: when instances like this happen and they're true, you have

835
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: to just like squash it immediately. You have to be

836
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: the most severe you can be, which is banning you

837
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: for life, because that is a slippery ass slope, which

838
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: is like before, being honest, we don't even know if

839
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: it's already happened before. Maybe people were just a lot

840
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: better at it than John date Porter. I mean, we

841
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: don't know, right, the idea of like especially the prop betting,

842
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: like that you you can influence I can hit the

843
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: under and then not take a shot. I mean it might.

844
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: It's it's I mean, you just had to go to.

845
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: The bathroom.

846
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Where I gotta go and set out the other three quarters.

847
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: It's interesting both times. Was at the end of the

848
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 4: first quarter. Literally at the end of the first quarter,

849
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: I'm done.

850
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: He didn't play, So it's sure.

851
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: And there's a bunch of bets like placed on FanDuel,

852
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: aren't they They also, I think they found out some big

853
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: bets placed on maybe DraftKings, like the same night. It's

854
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: a it's I mean, I think the guy is how

855
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: much he's involved is the real question. And was he

856
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: you know, he told he had to do this, and

857
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: was he peer pressured into that?

858
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, find out where other people he knew taking the Betsy.

859
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: Probably, but he was influencing to hit the under by

860
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: taking himself out probably probably probably. I mean, it's the

861
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: easy out. If I don't want to go out, you

862
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: guys are like, hey, we're having dinner Saturday night. I'm like,

863
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't really want to go, I'm not feeling good,

864
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: I got the shifts or something. Everyone's like, okay, no problem.

865
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: It's either you guys have kids, so you got Oh

866
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: my kids aren't feeling well, that's an easy other. I

867
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: don't have kids, so I either have to go maybe

868
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: the dog's got the ships or I got them. Somebody's

869
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: always got the ships, and it's the easiest out. No

870
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: one questions it, No one questions it. All right, you

871
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 3: don't want to follow up questions what did you eat?

872
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Unless you were out together? Then yeah, that's clarify, that's true.

873
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: They never cleaned the Margarina machine.

874
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: After Nina and Raffis.

875
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: No shots perfectly fine at Nina and Raffi's should.

876
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: You be allowed to bet your overs?

877
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's the compromise. You just can't bet the unders.

878
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there ball out.

879
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but you know that's the whole confidence those

880
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 3: that Pete Rose like, he bet on his team. Yeah,

881
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, so that's like yeah, yeah,

882
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: right right, sure. Final piece of news here going to

883
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: the w n b A. The Indiana Fever will be

884
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: the most televised team in the w NBA next season.

885
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: The league announces yesterday the Fever will have thirty six

886
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: of its forty games featured on national television through the

887
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 3: w NBA broadcast or streaming partners. India has a number

888
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: one pick in Monday's WNBA draft that's on Monday. Yeah,

889
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: it's like, whoa, it just ended their college career and

890
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: obviously they're going to be selecting Iowa star Caitlin Clark.

891
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: So forty six of the forty games, or excuse me, thirty

892
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: six of the forty games on national broadcast, eight of

893
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: those on ABC, ESPN, ESPN two, and then a lot

894
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: of other streaming platforms. Not surprised I assume by this

895
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: decision here from the WNBA.

896
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: No, imagine they swerve and take Cameron Brink number one.

897
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: Change up, they could do the funniest thing.

898
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like that, Like it's kind of like

899
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: having a built in star coming into the WNBA. Because

900
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: the college season ends, they have the draft and they're

901
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: starting like a month later, and it's pretty amazing they'll

902
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: turnaround for the women's players. I see that a lot

903
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: of teams around the league are moving into bigger arenas

904
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: for their games against the Fever. Like I was looking

905
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: at the Dream schedule. Like the dream attendance is like

906
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: three thousand people, and they're way more than three thousand.

907
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: People are gonna want to come and see Caitlin Clark

908
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: play against Atlanta, So that's gonna be really cool. She's

909
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: going to be on. The team was bad, you know,

910
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: they finished at the bottom, near the bottom of the WNBA.

911
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: But her and Leah Boston, I'm looking forward to see

912
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: him together. I just hope that whoever the coaches for

913
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: the Fever lets her play similar to how she played

914
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: at Iowa, you know, like it's given a rookie a

915
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of rope to come in and say, yeah, shoot

916
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: it from half court. Nobody else does that in the

917
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: w can you? She probably can? But yeah, she's a star.

918
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: Very cool to see her on TV a lot.

919
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and people are going to be watching, and that's

920
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: why the schedule has expanded. But also because of the

921
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: WNBA's popularity has expanded as well. People just care about

922
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: this sport more because it is becoming more global because

923
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: it's just a damn good league period And obviously she's good,

924
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: very very good. I guess she's not going to be

925
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: playing in the Big Three as ice Cube tried to

926
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 4: get her into before the season. That's just that's very tight.

927
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: It's very tight to do that. Yeah, I mean really,

928
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: I think they do crossover a little bit in that

929
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 4: her training camp with Indiana would be at the same

930
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: time as the Big Three, So it doesn't really make

931
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: a heck of a lot of sense the regular season

932
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: doesn't cross over. But I don't think that's happening either way.

933
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: She's yeah, she's got a chill out, I guess because

934
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: they are really close.

935
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there they go.

936
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: Right into it. On one hand, that's great in theory

937
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: for the league because they can ride this maybe wave

938
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: of her popularity and some of these other stars that

939
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: are going into the WNBA, like it's right there and

940
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: it's like fresh in mind. You're like, oh, yeah, I

941
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: want to see Clark player. I want to see Rees play. Oh,

942
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: they're in the WNBA now. But yeah, tough for them

943
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: as players to go right into it, or at least

944
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: very soon into it. Four games that Indiana does not

945
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: have any national broadcasts for two of them against Atlanta

946
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: What the hell Our Dream June thirteenth and again on

947
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: September eighth. I don't know what else is going on

948
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: on the sports schedule in those days.

949
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, watch it on Peachtree TV.

950
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, we could during the solar eclipse. Did

951
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 3: you guys see this? They were had a little plane,

952
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: little prop plane flying around the sky with like watch

953
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: the Hawks on Peachtree TV. Norah noticed it. It's pretty

954
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 3: smart and I was like, yeah. I was like, did

955
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: they do that? Because it's the solar clips day and

956
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: more people are looking up at the sky, not at

957
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: the time of the solar clips but earlier in the day.

958
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, good thinking because I've never seen

959
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: it otherwise, it's.

960
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Got to be the day people are looking at the sky.

961
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: Then see it through your glasses.

962
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: No, I was looking at it without my glasses, risky,

963
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: but I'm not looking at the Sun's.

964
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: Get that plane down before three or four pm Eastern.

965
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: Lots of Caitlin Clark and the Fever on your television

966
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: sets this summer and then into the fall. All right,

967
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: final thing here before we get to tweeted the night.

968
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: I'll try and move with some pace. But I saw

969
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: this going around yesterday. I think it was the you

970
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: know ball guys, somebody one of their fans broke down

971
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: how some of the national podcasters that cover the NBA

972
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 3: how they did overall when it came to their over

973
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: under bets for each team win totals. You know, some

974
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: I feel like Pelton struggled. His machine struggled. It's not

975
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: Pelton himself, but his machine struggled. You know, Risolo did

976
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: pretty well. Trill bro Dude was doing pretty good. So

977
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: I was like, how did we do now? Now, Tasking,

978
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 3: you weren't here with us at the start of the season,

979
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: you were recovering from from your accident. But it was

980
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: just TK and I and I was like, I wonder

981
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: how we did? Did we do above five hundred or

982
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: were we brutal? So I went back and listened to

983
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: yesterday's or excuse me, preseason over undershows. We did two shows,

984
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: one East, one West, and I looked at did we

985
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: hit them? Were we brutal? I'll move with some pace here.

986
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: The Celtics, we got that one right, fifty four and

987
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: a half wins. Boston was at They're gonna win sixty

988
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: two plus games, so, you know, a pretty easy cover. TK,

989
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: you said fifty seven wins last season. I don't think

990
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: they got worse. That was amazing I was banking on porzingis.

991
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: That was my whole thing. I was like, if that

992
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: guy plays, they're an easy over, which is ironic because

993
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: in the end, he didn't miss a decent amount of time.

994
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: Like I was talking on that pot about like he

995
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: plays seventy games. They were easily winning fifty five games.

996
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: I think he only played like somewhere in the fifties.

997
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: So I missed missed a little bit of the season,

998
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 3: but didn't matter. They were elite the nets thirty seven

999
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: and a half wins. We both took the over, and

1000
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: we did think this was a very weird one. We

1001
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: were struggling. We had a lot of trouble with it.

1002
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: Now I was a little bit on Ben Simmons Island.

1003
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: I was starting to make my way to the island,

1004
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 3: and you know, Tray was over. I was leaning over.

1005
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: So we got that one wrong. The knicks, that was

1006
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: one of my locks. I took that. I loved the

1007
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: continuity with the team. Trey. Trey took me under it

1008
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: because you because you called yourself a hater. Now I

1009
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: did say though, you did say even though you took

1010
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: the under and you got that one wrong, you said, hey,

1011
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: if everything goes right for the next they could be

1012
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: a three seed. So you were seeing it, but you still,

1013
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: because of your bulls, decided you had to take the

1014
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: Knicks under.

1015
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: There are two wolves inside every man.

1016
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: Yes, the Sixers, forty eight and a half wins. You

1017
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: took the under and you got it right. TK Now

1018
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: this was this was Harden was still on the team,

1019
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: and you talked about the cloud of Harden hanging over

1020
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: them and maybe that'll have an impact. We were agreeing

1021
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: that they were gonna be like, right at forty eight wins,

1022
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: forty nine wins. I went just over and you know

1023
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: they're they're like a forty five forty six team. They're

1024
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: gonna come just under. So you got that one right.

1025
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: And then the Raptors, this one was interesting. Thirty six

1026
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: and a half wins. That's what the Raptors over underline was.

1027
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: Now they're a twenty five win team. Trey took the

1028
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: over for the most insane reason, persuaded by Drake's son

1029
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: dropping a song that featured Grady Dick in the video.

1030
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: That was like the number one reason you talked about sports.

1031
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: And I'm happy to say, not happy I get I

1032
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: bet against my team, but I got it right, I

1033
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: super swerved. I did the verse jinks, whatever you wanna

1034
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: call it. I was like, they're gonna trade these guys.

1035
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: I was really banking on that, and even Schumann in

1036
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: the chat said, og siakam free agency equals possible trades.

1037
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: He nailed it. So I took just the under on

1038
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: the on the Raptors, which they did. That's the Atlantic Division.

1039
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: So not bad, not great, not bad.

1040
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: The Nets man, they messed with us. Yeah, yeah, they

1041
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been as bad as they were.

1042
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the Bulls thirty seven and a half wins. Now,

1043
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: this is one that's actually still open.

1044
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: Yep.

1045
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: They're at thirty seven right now, but they play the

1046
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: Pistons and Wizards. I'm pretty confident the Bulls are gonna win,

1047
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: maybe at least one more game. I think they're gonna

1048
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: get to thirty eight wins. I gave you the victory

1049
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: here trade. You took the over, you said, quote, I'm

1050
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: a stupid idiot, and I took the under under Bulls

1051
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: just under. So we're very close, but I think.

1052
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit it well. The Bulls are worse against

1053
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: teams that are under five hundreds. They've lost to the

1054
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: Pistons twice this season. This one is still about a guarantee.

1055
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: I don't think the league and beat the Knicks too.

1056
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: They have three games, yeah yeah, yeah.

1057
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: Probably yeah, so they'll win. They'll win one of their

1058
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: final three games. That'll be over Cavaliers fifteen and a

1059
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: half wins. This might be one of our worst picks.

1060
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: We both hit the over. Trey locked it in, you know,

1061
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: talking about how they got better. You were you were

1062
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: talking about their three point shooting that they added. We

1063
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: even addressed if they up their three point takes, they're

1064
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: going to be a better team, which for a stretch

1065
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: during the season was spot on. But they're a what

1066
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: are they They're a forty seven win team. They're not

1067
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: going to win fifty games. So we got that one wrong.

1068
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: That was probably one of our worst ones. When we

1069
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: look at both of us taking it Piston's twenty eight

1070
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: and a half wins, we said, take the under. TK

1071
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: was adamant. The number is just too high for me.

1072
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: You you only cared about Kate Cunningham's play. That was

1073
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: like all you cared about. You're like, how does he look?

1074
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: How would you grade Kate Cunningham's season Despite the thirteen

1075
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: wins here for the team.

1076
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: See okay, okay, Kate Cunningham overly impressed.

1077
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, not the war.

1078
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: I think it was good. They would have more than

1079
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: thirteen wins.

1080
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: This was one of Trey's locks the under. I went

1081
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: with the under as well. With you again, we talked

1082
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: about it just being too big of a jump. I

1083
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: will say the chat they were disagreeing with us at

1084
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: the time. They thought we were being way too hard

1085
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: on Detroit twenty eight and a half, which now looks insane.

1086
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: It would be eighteen and a half and they'd still

1087
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: be under. So the chat for the most part was wrong,

1088
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: but we had that one right. Pacers thirty eight and

1089
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: a half wins. We both took the over. You said

1090
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna be one of the most fun teams in

1091
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: the league. Knocked it out of the park. Talked about

1092
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: that offense being a juggernaut. So they cleared that one easy.

1093
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: What are they have forty six wins? Something like that.

1094
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: Nice call, easy, good wolf choice.

1095
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: I think this was one of our best bets. The

1096
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: Bucks fifty six and a half wins. We took the under.

1097
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: We talked it out. You had concern about the Bucks

1098
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: age now We did talk. I specifically talked a lot

1099
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: about could this be like a pissed off Giannis here

1100
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: after the loss to the Heat, and it was, yes,

1101
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: it was right exactly. But we were like, there's no

1102
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: rush for this team to like try and win sixty

1103
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: games and stuff like that. So they did have dame

1104
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: at this point when we were making these picks, but

1105
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: we said we were just like, just under, but they

1106
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: may not win fifty, right with how many games they

1107
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: have left, So fifty six and a half. We took

1108
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: the under. That was one of my locks. Southeast Division.

1109
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: The Hawks.

1110
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: Good.

1111
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: You took the under. You pegged them as a forty

1112
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: win team. You basically were like, they'll just be the

1113
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 3: same as they were the year prior.

1114
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Easiest on the board.

1115
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: This was my worst pick. Quote. I'm pounding the Hawks over.

1116
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: I locked it in. I was banking on that, Quinn

1117
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: Snyder full Camp. I was banking on a bounce back

1118
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: year from Trey Young, you know, I was banking on

1119
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: them playing a little bit of defense. I did say

1120
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: I think the Hawks will have a three game win

1121
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: streak At one point, I said, you can make some

1122
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: money on that. They lost their first two games of

1123
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: the season, but they won their next four, so they

1124
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: did win their three game win streak there. But I

1125
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: was way off on the Hawks. You got that one, right,

1126
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: Hornets thirty and a half wins, they're like a nineteen

1127
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: win team. Trey took the over. Yeah, now this was

1128
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: your team in the nut Dust Bowl. Yeah yeah, you

1129
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 3: were one hundred percent betting on Lamellow playing. That was

1130
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 3: the whole thing. You're like, when he plays, they're they're

1131
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: a better team than thirty and a half wins. But

1132
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately didn't play a lot. I literally took

1133
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: the spite under is what I called it, because I

1134
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: didn't want to cheer for Bridges, so I'm like, I'm

1135
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: not cheering for him. So I hit that one on

1136
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: pure spite he forty six and a half wins they

1137
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: lost last night. The under comes in. We both hit it.

1138
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: Trey locked that one in. It was one of your

1139
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: lost Yeah yeah, yeah, I know, I know, so you

1140
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: know that one's close. Vegas nearly nailed that one, Magic

1141
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: thirty seven and a half wins. We both talked ourselves

1142
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: into the under, barely under, we both kept saying, but

1143
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: they cleared that easily. They're like a forty six win

1144
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: team here, I.

1145
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Think that hater wolf my than running wild in my heart.

1146
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: Well, you did talk a lot about when we were

1147
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: making these pills.

1148
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: I love that dude. Yeah, I love Fronz after after

1149
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: playing in Foeba and winn the gold medal for Germany there.

1150
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: But you know they did the trade with the bulls.

1151
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: I can't can't bake them up.

1152
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: Are you watching this? This was the one that surprised

1153
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: me most that we both took the under. I would

1154
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: have just thought one of us would have like, oh yeah,

1155
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: I could see this being a you're I mean, that's

1156
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: not even that big a line, right, thirty seven and

1157
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: a half wins, and like I said, they're already at

1158
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: forty six. And then the Wizards twenty four and a half,

1159
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: my team in the nut Dust Bowl, they are under significantly.

1160
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: They're at fifteen. Trey took it. Trey said what I said,

1161
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 3: the over underline at twenty four and a half, trade

1162
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: went whoa easy over from trade?

1163
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I did take the under.

1164
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: I said this could be a hilarious team. They were

1165
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: for all the wrong reasons. So add that up. East

1166
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: Records trade eight and seven two and one when it

1167
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: came to your locks. I was nine and six in

1168
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: the East two and one when it came to the locks. Right,

1169
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: not bad, gets a little worse, at least for me.

1170
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: We didn't do as well in the West. Warriors forty

1171
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 3: eight and a half wins. We both took the under,

1172
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: so that was good. A little shocked by that one too.

1173
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 3: It's like, wow, not one of us took the over

1174
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: on that. We thought the line was good. They felt

1175
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 3: like a forty six forty seven win team, we said,

1176
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: and that's where they're gonna be. I think they're at

1177
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 3: forty four wins right now, forty five wins, so it'll

1178
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 3: be right there. They'll just be under. We got that

1179
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: one Clippers forty six and a half wins. They hit

1180
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: the over. We both took the under. We both took

1181
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: the under. This was pret hard and trade. I don't

1182
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: know if that would have changed things. We just couldn't.

1183
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: We couldn't go over because we're like, how do you

1184
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: handicap a team when than the stars never play or

1185
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: we don't know if they're playing. It's like one of

1186
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: those things if you say, hey, Kawhi is going to

1187
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: play in back to backs. Paul George is gonna play

1188
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: significant amount. I don't know. Maybe you change your decision

1189
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 3: on forty six and a half, but you lock that

1190
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: one in. So we got that one wrong. Lakers forty

1191
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: seven and a half wins. Trey, you took the under.

1192
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: You're just gonna sneak in there because they're gonna come

1193
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: in just short. They only have two games lefter a

1194
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: forty five wins, so they can't hit forty eight. I

1195
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: took slight over. We did talk about whether Lebron would

1196
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: play sixty five plus games to make All NBA, and

1197
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: he did. Oh that was a little interesting. It came

1198
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: up like while we were talking out the over runner,

1199
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: we're like, he's gonna want to make All NBA. Now

1200
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: we don't know if he will. I think he might.

1201
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: He probably will make this. What would that be his twentieth,

1202
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: twentieth straight All NBA team.

1203
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: That didn't make it as a rookie.

1204
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. So anyway, I took the over.

1205
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: I was wrong.

1206
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 3: Sons fifty one and a half wins. This was our

1207
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: Western version of the Cavs. We both took the over. Yep,

1208
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: we were like we were convinced we saw too much

1209
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: preseason action. Yeah, look at them, they put up seventy

1210
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: points and a half. How you gonna stop this team,

1211
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 3: which at times looks right, but yeah, you know, they

1212
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: struggled to stop teams and they go ice cold, and

1213
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: then they had a bunch of injuries, at least with

1214
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Beale and stuff.

1215
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: I bet there's some hilarious names we said during that segment,

1216
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: like talking up Kada Bates, Jop. We were talking about

1217
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: we weren't too bad, we weren'to bad.

1218
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: We were talking about the Stars a lot. But look,

1219
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: they're forty six win team, forty seven, so they're gonna

1220
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: be under They're not win fifty games. I locked that

1221
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: one in, So that was big l for me. I

1222
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: was really talking up the Suns as a regular season team.

1223
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: I was like, they're gonna crush that line. King's forty

1224
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: four and a half wins. They just made it. Just

1225
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: made the over there. I believe it. Forty five wins here, Trey,

1226
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: you did take the over. You said a lot of

1227
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: like negative things about them, but then you eventually came

1228
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: around and said, you know, they're not going to be

1229
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: as good as they were last season, which you were right,

1230
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: but you still had them over and I called this

1231
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: line disrespect. Yeah, I was upset. I was upset by this.

1232
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: Vegas nearly nailed it, but I locked it in and

1233
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: I got it. Way to go. Kings Northwest Division, I'll

1234
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: tell you right now, our best division. Okay, we nearly

1235
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: swept this division because we agreed on a lot nuggets

1236
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: fifty two and a half wins. Trey said, you made

1237
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: notes about how many people were taking the under. You

1238
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: were doing like a deep dive on the betting lines,

1239
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: and how many people were putting money on under nuggets

1240
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: or say an over and they hit. They're at you know,

1241
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: fifty six wins here, number one seed in the west.

1242
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: Right now, I went with you on the over. You

1243
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: locked that one in wolves forty four and a half wins.

1244
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: We were flummixed by this line. We were really struggling

1245
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: with this one. We thought, I don't know, you said,

1246
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: I don't feel good about it. We talked about them

1247
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: figuring out the big rotation. Could an't go to another level?

1248
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 3: He was already pretty good? Yeah he looked good in Foba,

1249
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: but how good is he really going to be? Like immediately,

1250
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 3: but we took the over. I will say, you really

1251
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: took the over. This was one of my ones where

1252
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm like hosting the show and I almost forgot to

1253
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: give an answer, but I was leaning with you, so

1254
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: I did sort of put it down as a win

1255
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: for me. Fifty five wins for the Wolves. They pounded

1256
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: that over at the time, though, remember coming in the

1257
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: season it was a lot of question marks.

1258
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I remember that was the worst trade of all time.

1259
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah right right, Thunder forty four and a half wins.

1260
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby Big Chet Holmgren fan Big said, shit, I'm

1261
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: taking the over. They crushed this one by about ten

1262
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 3: wins here. I did say too, I went the over

1263
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: as well. Even though we were like a lot of

1264
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: people are loving the over, we showed some hesitation, but

1265
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 3: we went with it. I did say, quote, I'm starting

1266
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: to convince myself that Jill and Williams is gonna be

1267
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: a star preseason action. I mean, he's on his way.

1268
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: It looks awesome. Blazer's twenty eight and a half wins,

1269
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: we said, take the under. Twenty one twenty two wins

1270
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: are gonna end with here. So well, Under you said

1271
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: some teams in the Western Conference are gonna have to lose.

1272
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: It's true not the top ten.

1273
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: No, we talked about Scoots season being a roller coaster ride.

1274
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: There was gonna be a lot of highs, but a

1275
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: lot of lows. I'm not sure this might be the

1276
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: lamest roller coaster ride of all time.

1277
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more like a giant drop. They just hold

1278
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: you up there and then at the very end you

1279
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: get a little bit of excitement. I think Scoot just

1280
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: had a great game. He had like a twelve assist

1281
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: half or something.

1282
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: He did. He did there's it's I think I thought

1283
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: it was gonna be a little like this, but it

1284
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: was more like what you said. But anyway, you hit

1285
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: the under on the Blazers and then the only team

1286
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: we didn't get right in the Northwest Division, the Jast

1287
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: thirty five and a half wins, so they're going to

1288
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: come up, you know, approximately thirty wins. We both took

1289
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: the over though you said over barely, and you were

1290
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: doing a good job. You were selling me on them.

1291
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: You actually talked me into the over because we were

1292
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: going back and forth and I predicted that the Utah

1293
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: Jazz would be a good in season tournament. For no reason.

1294
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: Were they good and I don't.

1295
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: Remember them making any noise to you, I don't think

1296
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: they did well at all. So it was way off

1297
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: on that one. Playing on that weird purple court.

1298
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Remember hey two and two in the n season tournament.

1299
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: They're better in the IST than they were in the RS.

1300
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: Final division here our worst division, from our best to

1301
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: our worst Southwest Division Mavericks forty five and a half wins.

1302
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: We both took the under. We thought they would improve,

1303
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: but we didn't think the jump would be that much

1304
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: because they obviously had a pretty bad year the year prior.

1305
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: I mean they leaned into the tank at the end.

1306
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: But we both took the under their fifty win team.

1307
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: We liked the idea of the defense getting better, like

1308
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: you know lively as the pick exem there, you know,

1309
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: Derrek Jones Junior, like it made sense, but we took

1310
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: the under. The one to say, I was really torn,

1311
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: and I said at one point, I'm gonna go flip

1312
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: a coin. Remember we talked about finding coins in our cars,

1313
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: so I never flipped it. So I almost don't know

1314
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: if I could take this as a loss, but uh,

1315
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: I was leaning under with you Rockets thirty one and

1316
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: a half. They went over and we took the under.

1317
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: This one. Ell, yeah, yeah.

1318
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: The Rockets fans were bookmarking me on this one.

1319
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were right, they were right, they were right.

1320
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: We again, we talked about all the new guys coming

1321
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: in there, how they would hell coach a dooka, but

1322
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: we just didn't think the jump would be that significant.

1323
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: I mean they did. They increase their wins by like

1324
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: twenty games almost.

1325
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: They were twenty two and sixty last all part so yeah,

1326
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: plus eight, well plus seventeen, right, plus seventeen. This might

1327
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: have been my the math ain't math in line about

1328
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: the Rockets, this one the math math.

1329
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: We got it wrong. Grizzlies forty five and a hal

1330
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: half wins. Now, this one's like barely even fairs. Though

1331
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: we did know John Morant wasn't gonna play the first

1332
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: twenty five games. Yes, we took the over though they

1333
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: hit twenty seven wins here right now, you locked this

1334
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: one in.

1335
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: I locked this well. I changed this one though on

1336
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: our next show because Steven Adams got hurt.

1337
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: That's true.

1338
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking the under now, but it's on the record.

1339
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: It's on the record, on the record. You brought up

1340
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: you brought up Kevin Pelton's projections. How they love this squad.

1341
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: We took me over. So again, we don't even have

1342
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: one right yet here in this division. Pelican's forty four

1343
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: and a half wins, we took the under, just took

1344
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: the under. I locked this one in two and they

1345
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: just hit the over tight tight. Hey, look, I guess

1346
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: is good at this the Some of these are pretty

1347
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: damn good. And we finally got the Spurs right. Twenty

1348
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: eight and a half wins. Wemby Mania was an all

1349
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: time high, even in the preseason, and we said, no, no, no,

1350
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: we're taking the under. They slow play it there in

1351
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: San Antonio. Yeah, we didn't want to bet against Wemby,

1352
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: but we're like, come on, that's a lot of wins.

1353
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna be under twenty wins. So we got that right.

1354
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: So eight and seven for you in the West, I

1355
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: was seven and eight. We both went one and two

1356
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: on our locks. So when you add it up, our

1357
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: records are identical, sixteen and fourteen, three and three on

1358
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: our locks there, and yeah, we basically just sort of

1359
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: split it having the same record. Not bad, not great.

1360
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 4: That's gambling sixteen and fourteen, so people do yeah.

1361
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: Exactly right.

1362
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 3: Even a few other notes Vegas had thirteen overs to

1363
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: seventeen unders coming through. You know, still technically undecided about

1364
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: the bulls, but we'll count it as an over, so

1365
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, they you'd been better off to go under

1366
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: more times than not, at least from those lines. And

1367
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: again we agreed on twenty two of the over unders.

1368
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: So on the ones we agreed on, we went twelve

1369
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: and ten, and then the ones we disagreed on we split.

1370
01:01:59,000 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: Four or four.

1371
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: Can see, all of that shows you we are the Hotts.

1372
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: Sixteen could be worse, obviously, could be better, but yeah,

1373
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: there you go. So holding ourselves accountable. Now you would

1374
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: have went what probably twenty two or something like that,

1375
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 3: twenty seventh.

1376
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: Nobody in the history of humanity has ever gotten anywhere

1377
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 4: close to twenty and ten. I bet, I bet people are.

1378
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 3: That's incredible if you do that. Yeah, it's good, very

1379
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: very good. That's a good season. Yeah, all right, let's

1380
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: wrap up this bad boy with tweet of the night.

1381
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: Tweet over night. Wow.

1382
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 4: The legendary Kelly Dwyer brought up something that is very

1383
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 4: important for everybody leading into the postseason next week, because

1384
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 4: I forgot every year, but this is entirely true. He

1385
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: wrote playoff reminder. TNT starts on time. ESPN starts fifteen

1386
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: minutes late.

1387
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: That's right.

1388
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: It's a good tip.

1389
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get it. You see a schedule time

1390
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: for an eight o'clock game esp The ball ain't tipping

1391
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 4: at eight o'clock. It's tipping out about eight fifteen's that's

1392
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: approximately right, be eight seventeen, could be eight eighteen.

1393
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be short.

1394
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: You got fifteen minutes to play with.

1395
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, there will be some gambling ads in there. They

1396
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: fit in some ads, that's for sure. As they do

1397
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: their their pregame. Well, TNT is closer to eight o'clock.

1398
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: Let's say the game is starting at eight o'clock, TNT

1399
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: will be pretty close, pretty close, two eighth.

1400
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: Three, especially if they have the doubleheader right.

1401
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: Well, then it's super tight. Yeah.

1402
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if you haspen changes in that in

1403
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: that I don't know.

1404
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1405
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: Would they start their earlier game a little bit earlier?

1406
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: The whole thing is, you know, TNT, the whole thing

1407
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: is their halftime show, and maybe you could even argue

1408
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: their postgame show with the inside the NBA guys, where

1409
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: ESPN you can't battle with those guys, so they have

1410
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: to feel like they lean more into their pregame show.

1411
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 3: They're trying to set that. Not that it's like all

1412
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: that great. They should take some notes from They should

1413
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: just bring in the women's team that was doing the

1414
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: tournament for them. But it's a good tip.

1415
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: It's a great, pretty spot on.

1416
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: You're right.

1417
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll panic sometimes you're like, oh, crap, crap, crap, crap,

1418
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: I gotta get there the game. Yeah, but if it's

1419
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: on ESPN, you got you can go walk the dogs still,

1420
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: you can do whatever you gotta do, exactly.

1421
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: Kelly Dwyvers give you fifteen three minutes for every game.

1422
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 4: That's pretty awesome. That's pretty spectacular. What about NBA TV,

1423
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 4: because NBA TV does get a few games in.

1424
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: The first round, specifically in the first round.

1425
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: I think they're pretty good.

1426
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: They're pretty tight. Yeah, they're pretty tight.

1427
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: Stand for the national anthem, sit down, watch the game,

1428
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 4: that's what happened, That's what happens in every arena.

1429
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: I think.

1430
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty tight to the start time. So yeah,

1431
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 4: ESPN gets it in there, sells mads and they start

1432
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: like that's for sure.

1433
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: Does it feel like to you guys, that the play

1434
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: in starts on Tuesday, that the playoffs literally start next weekend,

1435
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: Like we're gonna have eight games on every game of

1436
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: importance with the four on Saturday, four on Sunday next week.

1437
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: Does it feel like it to you guys or not?

1438
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: Because I always get in this weird little area here

1439
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: where it's like I just like want them to start. Yeah,

1440
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: but they still feel so far away to me.

1441
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: They're well they are what I mean a week, Yeah,

1442
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 4: they used to be just a couple of days.

1443
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I'm excited for the play and the plays

1444
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: have been fun. I think they well some have been.

1445
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: We got some We have some wizards, hornets or whatever.

1446
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: Pacers watching Dougie McDermott run around those screens.

1447
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't work out.

1448
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna have You're gonna have Lebron versus stuff.

1449
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 4: Oh, those are gonna be. That one's gonna be good

1450
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 4: rematch essentially.

1451
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited here in Atlanta.

1452
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 4: I got to watch Atlanta Chicago.

1453
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Sure you know we'll be on play back for that one.

1454
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know it got it.

1455
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 4: It is a little wild above Atlanta Chicago. That Embiid

1456
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: might be in the play in or he may actually

1457
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: bump up to six.

1458
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: There's a chance.

1459
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: There's a chance.

1460
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 4: But the seventh day might be interesting because Orlando might

1461
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 4: drop to the play in game, which I'll be interested

1462
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 4: in because they want to make the freaking playoffs, not

1463
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 4: just the play in but.

1464
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: They may drop there.

1465
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: And the Pacers, obviously, this is a new era of

1466
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: the Pacers, the Saint Dougie McDermott's Pacers. This is a

1467
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 4: fun team.

1468
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: He's there. Huddles next week.

1469
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 3: But yes, we'll have the Drop podcast tomorrow to break

1470
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 3: down some of tonight's game, some of the big storylines,

1471
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: Worst of the Week nominees, five Star Friday International Fire

1472
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 3: International five Star Friday. Uh, that'll be very exciting, So

1473
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: join us at ten am Eastern tomorrow, and then you

1474
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: have the final weekend of the regular season. You know,

1475
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: we'll be back on Monday to do winners and Losers

1476
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: in the NBA. We have a guest lined up next

1477
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: week which will be very exciting. So we have some

1478
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: fun stuff coming. And if you're a Survivor fan, later

1479
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 3: today at one pm Eastern, oh my god, we got

1480
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: no Buffs our Survivor recap podcast to break down episode several,

1481
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: not several episodes, episode several. Jeff Probes got credit for

1482
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: the quote last night my God by way of Jolinsky.

1483
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: Of course, but I love I'll help this guy.

1484
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about a very entertaining Survivor episode from

1485
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: last night. That's a one pm easter no bus own

1486
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Speaker 3: YouTube feed on podcast feed, but until tomorrow, here from

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Speaker 3: the now Dun's classic factory clipper.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

1489
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1490
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

1491
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

1492
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: And remember the stream team coming through with some suggestions

1493
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 4: for what you should do in that fifteen minutes you

1494
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: have now Because ESPN playoff games they start fifteen minutes late,

1495
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: so some.

1496
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: Good ones here make a cup of tea.

1497
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 4: Sure, Schumann writes, ESPN's got to have a pregame show

1498
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 4: after their pregame show, interesting stuff, they're Schumann, not a suggestion,

1499
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 4: But anyway, I got that in there. And you can

1500
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: go take a D word. I don't want to say it.

1501
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: It was nasty.

1502
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah dump, I can go take a dump before the

1503
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: game starts.

1504
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: Come on spot fact.

1505
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: You literally say poop all the time on the show.

1506
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't say go take a dump in the

1507
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. I don't think they're going to start their pregame.

1508
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: You take dumps, your door open. I believe that's.

1509
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: A family, not in this house. My kids tell me

1510
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: stories when I'm on the Pooper. I tell them stories

1511
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 4: when they're on the Pooper. But I don't think Espan's

1512
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: gonna come on air and say, hey, we'll be here

1513
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: in fifteen minutes.

1514
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: You gotta go take a dump, we'll be back.

1515
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: You know what, We better all right, bracelet a people,