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Speaker 1: What's up everybody on Peanut Tillman and this is the

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Speaker 1: NFL player's second acts podcasting.

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Speaker 2: With me as always is my guy Roman.

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Speaker 3: Like the shirt?

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Speaker 2: The shirt, Yeah, you like it.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 4: to our next guest. He's been so successful on and

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Speaker 4: off the field, a unique path to get to where

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Speaker 4: he is today, which is what I'm really really enthused

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Speaker 4: to hear and talk about, because this is what we do.

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Speaker 4: We come here to hear about all of the former

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Speaker 4: players that are involved with the NFL about their second act.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead. Pinat introduced who we.

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Speaker 1: Have the Heart and Prodde and Soul of Montana played

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Speaker 1: four years in the league. Now he's working in finance.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 2: Mister Corey Procter, Proctor, come on, man.

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Speaker 5: I like that's a good intro.

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah, it's well.

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Speaker 1: Proctor reminds me of I'm a fan of like the

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Speaker 1: eighties movies, the Old School and you remember Police Academy, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Captain Harris a lot. Yeah, those are movies.

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Speaker 3: Those were really good.

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Speaker 5: That and you bring back that's college stuff. You bring

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Speaker 5: the heart and pride or whatever. Justin Greene played Baltimore's

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Speaker 5: our old full back. He used to us used to

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Speaker 5: master puppets from Metallica, and instead of master, he'd be

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Speaker 5: like Proctor, Proctor. It's like all that old stuff memories.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, this is a great memory.

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Speaker 1: So clearly you were a lot smaller now today than

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Speaker 1: when you were playing.

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Speaker 5: Don't say it like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're healthy smaller now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I walked in, you guys are still

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Speaker 5: looking like you could do some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we get jacked every time we see each other.

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Speaker 1: Like we just were all about the weight room push

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Speaker 1: ups all day long.

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Speaker 4: We have been on trips together where we just run

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Speaker 4: through decks of cards and just whatever the cards.

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Speaker 5: Should you still do that workout? Yeah? Do that workout now?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's that's the dB wide receiver workout for sure.

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Speaker 3: All day Longah, right before I go to the.

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Speaker 5: Beach, exactly. I mean that's why you guys.

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Speaker 3: Look, so what was your playing weight three or five?

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Speaker 2: Three old five? And we're now and how do your knees?

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Speaker 5: Phil my knees, Oh man, I crack everywhere. I'm like

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Speaker 5: my bag, I mean, he's pop. Your whole body pops

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Speaker 5: when you're walking around. My shoulder hurts, my back hurts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I got it all, but I still stay active.

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Speaker 5: I want to be strong. Yeah right, I want to

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Speaker 5: be around for my babies, and so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long after did it take you to lose

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Speaker 5: It took a while. Look fat boy took over afterwards. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: I got up to three forty two. It was my

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Speaker 5: and some other things sugar. But you know when when

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Speaker 5: I stopped force feeding, lost twenty pounds. When I stopped

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Speaker 5: So like lately. I mean, I'm in a master mind now,

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Speaker 5: but I got accountability to coach my My Australian guy

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Speaker 5: in Bali right now is just a surfer guy with

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Speaker 5: a ripped up body. So I got to in my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you think fat boy took over?

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Speaker 5: Lineman? Appetite never wants to leave. Man, I still want

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Speaker 5: to eat the whole pizza. I mean, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got yeah, I gotcha.

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Speaker 5: It's just what you're in that behavior and then you stop.

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Speaker 3: That's really funny. I mean sorry, cause it's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when you're at a football camp,

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Speaker 3: They give you these late night snacks.

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Speaker 4: You can buy a whole pizza, and these old linemen

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Speaker 5: Right yeah. Well, I mean at first you just forced feed.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I got told my whole life, was

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Speaker 5: like I was just I was tall, but I was

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Speaker 5: where nowadays you see the lean, lean old lineman, which

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Speaker 4: Corey, So, what was your first welcome to the NFL

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Speaker 4: moment coming from Montana.

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Speaker 3: You're from Washington originally, but what was.

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Speaker 5: That you remember Sean Rogers, Sean Rodgers, big Baby.

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Speaker 2: Big Baby.

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Speaker 3: I was teammates with him in New Orleans for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I worked out one of my that's a massive

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Speaker 5: He basically ran over me in one on once and

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Speaker 5: I was like, all right, so I worked really hard

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Speaker 5: just like, so, I don't know what to do from here.

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Speaker 5: I just like, I guess I'll just keep showing up.

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Speaker 5: But that's what it was is I got he laid

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Speaker 5: was funny was I was on practical to Detroit at

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Speaker 5: so that han't got cut. They put me on practice

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Speaker 5: But right before that, I'm watching the film of Larry

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Speaker 5: Allen and I've seen and in that film, I saw

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Speaker 5: Larry launch Sean Rodgers like he was a little boy.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like that is a full grown, three hundred

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know if I belong right now,

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Speaker 5: you know, but I'm just gonna keep showing up. So

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Speaker 5: I was able to puney in a little bit so

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go back to twenty ten Thursday night football game Bears

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Speaker 2: You were in that game? Actually I was in that game.

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Speaker 3: I was there.

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Speaker 2: I played for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I had to pick. That game was in Miami.

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about that game?

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Speaker 5: That's where I died. That's where That's where athlete me died, basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: a turnaround time, especially after that because I got into

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Speaker 5: the game, and that was Dan Campbell's assistant tight ends coach,

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Speaker 5: And it's that's my guy. Everybody loves Dan and uh,

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Speaker 5: Like you know, I'm like, I'm still talking to you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, and all of a sudden, I'm passed out. And

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Speaker 5: what was funny about it was Ko, our trainer at

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Speaker 2: Why did you pass out? Was it just pain?

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Speaker 5: Was it worst pain I've ever had in my life?

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Speaker 5: So when I passed out, he slapping me. Not concussion

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Speaker 5: And I mean it's basically a fire hose went off

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Speaker 4: So, and so I've listened to a couple of your

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Speaker 4: holding on to this dream of still playing, because you

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Speaker 4: say some really good things and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Into basically say what it's just really good and so

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Speaker 4: It, like what kind of brought you to that point?

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Speaker 4: Kind of talk to me about your mentality as you're

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Speaker 5: So he he was a huge influence on me in that.

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Speaker 5: But every ten and coming back it didn't happen. Tried

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Speaker 5: more expensive, I'm older, I got a bunch of cuts.

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Speaker 5: God said, God said when twenty six is the first

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Speaker 5: plural where it says and God said, we will make

438
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Speaker 5: man in our image. And well, okay, it's not a secret.

439
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 5: But who's he talking about. Who's having this conversation when

440
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 5: he says we in the pre planning of creation? Who's

441
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 5: he talking about? It's the trinity, God, the Father got

442
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 5: the son in the Holy Spirit, right, and so you

443
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 5: imagine this conversation going on between the three of them,

444
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 5: and basically said the God in the pre planning phase.

445
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Speaker 5: You know, the dad's the Father's asking asking the two

446
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Speaker 5: other people at table right now, He's like, I know

447
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 5: there's going to be a screw up, there's going to

448
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 5: be a break. How are we going to fix this?

449
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 5: And his son is the one who steps up and says,

450
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Speaker 5: I'll take care of it. And you can imagine knowing

451
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: the weight of the world has got to fall on

452
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Speaker 5: this guy and this is my only son, how this

453
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Speaker 5: dad might feel, how much pain would come into his

454
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Speaker 5: heart knowing his son has to take all the weight

455
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 5: of the world sin on his shoulders, and how painful

456
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Speaker 5: that's going to be. As a dad, you don't want

457
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Speaker 5: your kid to walk through that, right and so, but

458
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Speaker 5: also how much pride he might feel knowing that it

459
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 5: was a choice that he made that because you would

460
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Speaker 5: do the same thing for your family. And I remember

461
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Speaker 5: this thought coming into my head when we were going

462
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Speaker 5: through this study, was we have an intimate relationship before

463
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Speaker 5: we ever get down to this earth. And this is

464
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Speaker 5: my faith talking, right, But I said, the question got

465
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Speaker 5: posed to me. What if he had this conversation before

466
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Speaker 5: he ever got here, Like my nephew Evan, what if

467
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 5: you had this conversation with God. It's like, hey, man,

468
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: I can get to your family, I can get to him,

469
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 5: but something BIG's gotta happen. And he was the one

470
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Speaker 5: that said I'll do it and and I'll tell you

471
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Speaker 5: like when that hit me, it was almost like this

472
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Speaker 5: kiss on the cheek, and it was basically like, Okay,

473
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Speaker 5: if that's what it was, I'm gonna make sure everybody

474
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 5: knows about it. Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna make

475
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Speaker 5: sure it wasn't for nothing. Yeah.

476
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Speaker 4: I appreciate you sharing that story. It's a it's the

477
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Speaker 4: best way to look at that situation in my opinion,

478
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Speaker 4: and uh, I hope that was the case. I will

479
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Speaker 4: say it is the case, and uh, we're not in

480
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Speaker 4: that much control anyway. Same thing as you said earlier.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about wealth management, Okay, Okay.

482
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Speaker 5: I you got to bring it back up. We got well.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

484
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Speaker 4: I was also gonna say, like, has any any of

485
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Speaker 4: the owners coaches, have any of these guys kind of

486
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Speaker 4: poured into you to help you kind of in this

487
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Speaker 4: whole transition phase they kind of led you to the

488
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Speaker 4: finance world or what you're doing now.

489
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Speaker 5: No, those so they've they've all been great. All those

490
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 5: guys have been awesome. But they're busy, you know that.

491
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: Like they got things, They got their their stuff to do.

492
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: So what I did, So I started my company no

493
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 5: intent on doing this. I actually was going to be

494
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Speaker 5: an elementary ed teacher. And I mean the teachers work

495
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 5: way too hard and get paid too little. So that's

496
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Speaker 5: what I kind of equoted. That league spoiled me on

497
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Speaker 5: that one, Okay, And so I finished my degree in

498
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 5: psychology trying to figure out what to do. And I

499
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 5: was actually in sales at first, and I did a

500
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Speaker 5: lot of speaking gigs, and there was always a financial

501
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: guy that was trying to get at me. You guys

502
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: have been through that, I know you have. And but

503
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: I finally started having asked questions, why is this a

504
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: repetitive deal? And so really what came from it was

505
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: I realized my past and why I behaved the way

506
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Speaker 5: I did with my own money. And what happened was

507
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: I was in a correct junior year high school and

508
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 5: rear ended a lady. She filed suit a year later,

509
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 5: my mom and my stepdad for bankruptcy, lost the house,

510
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 5: in the vehicles, and so I kind of like guys,

511
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: I clammed up. I took that into the league with me,

512
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: and I really wasn't worried about the next guy who

513
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: tried to sit across the kids the table and try

514
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 5: to get my money and yeah, deep pocket, short arms

515
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: one right.

516
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

517
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Speaker 5: And but Marco Rivera hooked me up with a lady

518
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Speaker 5: Mark I remember him. He conflict of interest. I married

519
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 5: her daughter, okay, and but she made me some good money.

520
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: But I she was willing to just teach me up.

521
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 5: As I asked a bunch of stupid questions and uh,

522
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: and so learned up along the way. But I wasn't

523
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Speaker 5: really interested in the guy that's sit here and try

524
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: to promise me another point or two. And I basically

525
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 5: just wanted to put a vault around my life where

526
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Speaker 5: my we weren't subject to those kind of issues at

527
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 5: a lawsuit or something else trying to come somebody trying

528
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: to steal my money. And so effectively we did that

529
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 5: and the revelation was basically go repeat it. That was it.

530
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: And so that became the premise of the job. And

531
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Speaker 5: she had made us good money, and that largely in

532
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Speaker 5: the stock market, and I had, you know, we had

533
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Speaker 5: seen a great return if you if you remember, like

534
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 5: so two thousand and eight, we had big trash. That

535
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 5: was Obama's first president's year or first year of presidency,

536
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: so hit through his next seven years and Trump's next

537
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 5: three years before COVID, we had a huge run in

538
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 5: the market and we had awesome growth in our portfolios.

539
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 5: And so you know, I made minimum five out of

540
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Speaker 5: my six years playing well today there's we have no

541
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Speaker 5: need for the league, and that's largely because we made

542
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: some good choices along the way and had some great growth.

543
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 5: But I just wanted to make sure nobody could take it.

544
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 5: That was it, and so we we just that became

545
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: an emphasis in the business, or a big focal point

546
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: was entrepreneurs people that looked like me building businesses, and

547
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: they knew that was the baby. So we have to

548
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Speaker 5: protect the baby and protect away from the baby.

549
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Speaker 1: So that was when you started the pro Capital company.

550
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of where that started.

551
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, so that was eight end of eighteen, twenty eighteen, okay,

552
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 5: And it was like I never even thought about trying

553
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: to do it for somebody else. I just did took

554
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 5: care of my own stuff. Yeah, And so when that

555
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 5: when that revelation came in, I was like, okay, let's

556
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 5: do that.

557
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: So not naming I don't need to know names of

558
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: clients obviously, but do you have any pro athletes as clients?

559
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 5: I have a couple. I'll tell you. I thought at first, naturally,

560
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: like guys get into this business and like I'm going

561
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: to new athletes. I could no problem. Yeah I can

562
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: speak athlete language. But I'll tell you what a lot

563
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 5: and I know you guys, we did a lot of

564
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 5: stupid things, no.

565
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: Doubt, I mean, and we're going to do them regardless.

566
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other part.

567
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: I rich kids is what we are are rich bit kids.

568
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: I love my guys, but if they can't prove smart

569
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: enough to handle their money a little little bit, I

570
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: don't want them as clients. And so we had we

571
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: had some issues with some guys that, you know, we'd

572
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: do background checks. You know, we had one guy left,

573
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 5: did a ton of planning for a guy and he

574
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: wanted to put money with another investment, which was no problem,

575
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 5: that's his money. But didn't like how the guy was

576
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: treating my admin, my assistant, and did a background check

577
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 5: and we found two aggravated felonies. One was a bank

578
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 5: robbery and brought that to the case and that wasn't

579
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: thirty days later, he transferred all accounts and I'm like,

580
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 5: I don't know, we just found two aggravated felonies on

581
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: this guy, and he's like, I just want something else.

582
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: I go, okay, So I can't. I can't. You know,

583
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: I don't have full answers on all of that. But

584
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 5: what I what I did see was that was that

585
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: other guys or people that were building businesses like me,

586
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 5: they were going through the same problems or had been

587
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: through the same problems. And so we could we could

588
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: speak to each other on those and so on. Entrepreneurs like,

589
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: we have high heavy cash flow months where we're doing awesome,

590
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: and we got to realize that we got to pay

591
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: down debt and invest heavy in that time away from

592
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: the business. Other times we don't want low cash flow months.

593
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 5: We got to be willing to take out lines of

594
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: credits or debt or something to float the payroll and

595
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 5: understand that those are big ebbs and flows in the business,

596
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: and how do we tack on and add value to

597
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 5: the business to make sure that's growing or the biggest

598
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 5: problem with entrepreneurs is like how do we make sure

599
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 5: the business does well but we keep our family yea,

600
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: and not destroy either. And so you know that was

601
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: that's a big one for me. Is Ultimately one reason

602
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: I didn't go into coaching was because I didn't. I

603
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: sacrificed so much of my life for football. I didn't

604
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 5: want to sacrifice anymore. And so this allowed me to

605
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: make I could I could put my staff to work,

606
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: and I could go be at my kids games.

607
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that.

608
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: I like that, We're going to take a short break

609
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: and we'll be right back.

610
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Social media looking at your Twitter or I'm sorry X

611
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: looking at your Twitter page.

612
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: You do a good job.

613
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: Nothing but just quotes.

614
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? And they're good quotes, by

615
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: the way, let me just they're they're great quotes. They're

616
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: inspirational quotes, like where does that come from?

617
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: So my reading, I tell you, like when I found

618
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: my faith, that's when I became the massive consumer. Yeah,

619
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: that's that. I mean a fire got turned on and

620
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: I became insatiable all of a sudden. And my wife

621
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: it was funny because like my one of my first

622
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 5: assignments in one of my men's groups was twenty one

623
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: Irrefutable Laws and Leadership by John Maxwell, and it was

624
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 5: it started out as an assignment, then it turned into

625
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: a fire after that. Yeah, and so you know, I'd

626
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: be smacking my babe, my wife in bed, like, babe,

627
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 5: listen to this, you know, and she's like shut up

628
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: and trying to sleep. And but I books, you'd share

629
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: a powerful message or podcast all of a sudden, it

630
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: was podcast, ted talks, church messages, anything I get my

631
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: hands on. And all of a sudden, what I started

632
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: seeing with that was I started becoming the overflowing cup.

633
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 5: Was you can't give from an empty cup, right, like,

634
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: if you've got nothing.

635
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: In, you can't pour out.

636
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: You got nothing, right And so basically I had to

637
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: eat and consume so much where I had that overflowing

638
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: cup where I had a ton of information or powerful

639
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: pieces in me to deliver back and to me. I

640
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: kind of equate it to as two prong one if

641
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: you don't consume. A scripture that talks about letting not

642
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: the fool speak at the gate where business used to

643
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 5: be done at old schools, business used to be done

644
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 5: at the gate of the town. And if the fool

645
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: opens his mouth, he gets found out. And so another

646
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: proverb talks about a man's gift will make him known

647
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: amongst great men. So basically, if we're sitting at the

648
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: table we're all having this talk and you've consumed, or

649
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 5: if you've craft and your skill or your gift are

650
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: up enough, and I ask you a question, you could

651
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: respond with something really good and it'll make everybody take notice.

652
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: But if you haven't, you're the full at the gate. Yeah.

653
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: I like a couple of you.

654
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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I get them to everybody.

655
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: One of the ones that I like is you can't

656
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: scale chaos document the process. You use that on x

657
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: and Instagram quite a few times. This is a mantra

658
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: of yours. Another one I like to I like to

659
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: yours was it's the one right up under is your

660
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: standards should confuse the world because it wasn't set by

661
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: the world, so they shouldn't be ready for it or

662
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: understand it. But that's your standard, which is that high?

663
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Right. It's a lot of average people out there in

664
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: the world, dude, it's a.

665
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: Lot of average and it's and average people like other

666
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: average people because it's cool.

667
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: You know, we're all.

668
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: We're good, you're good right to stay right where we

669
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: are to be.

670
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: And so.

671
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: These are the quotes that mister Corey Proctor puts out

672
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: all the time, and so everybody hit follow you if

673
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: you haven't read them, or check out his page's and

674
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: it's pretty good. So this is your cup running over.

675
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: This is this is what you are on a day

676
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: to day basis. And I see on some of your

677
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: videos you have your kids in the background, so they're

678
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: hearing it.

679
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: How did they respond to it? Because I know how

680
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: my kids respond.

681
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: Mine too, and mine's in the back, dude. They listen

682
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: to nothing. I say, a man is not a provident

683
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: in his own land.

684
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: Gotta leave, have a promise, you gotta get out.

685
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: How you see this? And she she's like, oh my god, Dad,

686
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: oh my god.

687
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: S No, they know and you know that. Sorry, they

688
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: catch it. And now they catch they they they catch

689
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: more than they hear though, right true. And so I'll

690
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: tell you one thing. My oldest we have three ten

691
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: five girl, boy girl ten five and one, and Grace,

692
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: my oldest, and then the best. Grace is loving. She's

693
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: got my height. I'm my baby. You'll thank me for

694
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: the legs. I promise later and later. Yeah, And it's

695
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 5: tallest fourth grader in class are in the school right now.

696
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: And our five year old boy, Hank, he's a just

697
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: destroying every all boy out like Repp and push ups,

698
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: perfect form. I'm like, this guy is built better than

699
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: me right now. It's awesome. And then our fifteen month

700
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: old Faith, she's just a ham So it's awesome. But Grace,

701
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: there was one time and I don't even remember what

702
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 5: it was, but she said we were supposed to do something.

703
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, now, not tonight, babe, it's not going to happen.

704
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 5: Then she goes, you said that we could do this.

705
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't remember, baby, and she goes, you

706
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: said that we could do this, and you said, we

707
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: do not go back on our word. We always follow through,

708
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 5: is what we do. And I'm like, okay on the lad,

709
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 5: okay on the line. I'm like, babe, we'll be back.

710
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: And so I don't remember what it was, but I

711
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: remember she held me to that, and and I'm like,

712
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 5: I would I want that person for me every day. Yeah,

713
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 5: And and I was so thankful that she did that,

714
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: because those words don't they don't come back void, like

715
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: this is I did. And she did that another time

716
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: I got a surgery. I remember praying over her in

717
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 5: this this is, this is this is such meathead stuff

718
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: for me. Like I heard a word one time, pastors

719
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 5: talking about like how you speaking to your family, like

720
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 5: how you speaking to the people around you, right, and

721
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: uh and so and so I just remember like that night,

722
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't remember. I'm not bad, but I'm

723
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: not intentionally good on any of this. And life and

724
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 5: death is in the power of the tongue. I remember

725
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: that's what was getting preached. And so I'm like, well,

726
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna start speaking powerful things over my girl

727
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: in bed when she used to have her little you know,

728
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: the half the half crib with the escape hatch side.

729
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Like the cot.

730
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I could sleep in that thing on

731
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: my weight limit. But but I just remember I was like,

732
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: like when she's going to sleep sair prayers, I'm like,

733
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 5: Daddy loves you. I was like, tell me, tell me back,

734
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 5: say Daddy loves you. Daddy loves me. So you say

735
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 5: I'm tough, I'm tough, I'm strong, I'm strong, and say

736
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: you know you're so beautiful, I'm so beautiful, and she

737
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 5: would just repeat these things right, And we did it

738
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: for a long time. And I had to go do

739
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: another shoulder surgery. And I remember waking up from the

740
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 5: solder shoulder surgery kind of drunk on the anesthetic right,

741
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: and Megan and Grace were sitting there and Grace was

742
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: like what are She's like, what's wrong with Daddy? And

743
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: Megan was like, he's just in a little pain. But

744
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 5: doctor helped him. He feels better, and she goes can

745
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: I sit on his lap and get up in the

746
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 5: hospital bed and I'm like, come here, you know, like

747
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: half gone, and she pops up and she leans in

748
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 5: my ear and she whispers, Daddy, you're so strong. And

749
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: I tell you if that wasn't a branding moment for

750
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: me as a dad. So like those quotes that I share,

751
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: they come from my consumption, and so like what I

752
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: consume is going to flow out, and I want I

753
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: want them to catch that, yea, And that's proof that, like, hey,

754
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: we're doing good things. Let's keep moving.

755
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, So what comes to mind?

756
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, go for it.

757
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: I am so fine with it.

758
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: What comes to mind when I say these two words

759
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: free reign?

760
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 5: Oh man, that garage band, yeah, okay, great video game? Yeah, uh,

761
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 5: it was fun. It was jamming, having a good time.

762
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: And I still love music. Man. I sit there some

763
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 5: of the best times sitting in front of like campfire,

764
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: just jamming, yeah, and just chilling and but uh, good

765
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: time with Mark Colombo, Leonard Davis.

766
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: And so for our viewers out here and our listeners,

767
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: mister Corey started a rock band okay, yeah, with a

768
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: couple of his.

769
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: Teammates, Mark Colombo, Leonard Davis, Justin Chapman.

770
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: And all these are very large people. So ext yeah,

771
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: go ahead, three hundred plus, go ahead. I don't want

772
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: to say extremely large, but I just want to make

773
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: sure you know, they know besides, we're just talking above

774
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: their head.

775
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

776
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: It's basically the starting office.

777
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: Of line of the Dallas Cowboys, like this, y'all had

778
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: some y'all have some weaight to you?

779
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want nobody doing y'all out the club.

780
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 5: Well, it was funny because we had those times too.

781
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 5: It's like, oh no, we played Sunken Garden San Antonio

782
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: with like five Finger Death Punch and three Days Grace

783
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: and some cool bands and Casey Elephant and so we

784
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: played this show one time. Mark and Leonard was like

785
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: knows to knows about to fight on something. And Leonard

786
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: and his wife had had gotten some security and personal

787
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: security was like, I'm not breaking that. These guys are

788
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: over here.

789
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm good.

790
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: We did not prep for this scenario right here. And

791
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 5: I came in and I see them nose to those

792
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: like trying to throw down on something, and I just

793
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 5: jump in the middle of them. I'm smaller than both

794
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: of them, yeah, but I just jump in the middle.

795
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, what's wrong with you idiots? Right now? And uh?

796
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: And they broke off. They're fine, But it was like

797
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 5: It was just funny because we had we had a

798
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: blast and yeah it was garage band, and we did

799
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 5: the album and we got to travel through some really

800
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: cool stuff, met some rock stars and made some cool

801
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: friends and uh, but it was it was fun for

802
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: that chapter a time and then everybody, everybody had to

803
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 5: go their own ways. Man, we all had different paths.

804
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: So what was more rewarding creating the band or you know,

805
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: making an album or being on the VH one show

806
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: rock and Roll Fantasy Camp And described.

807
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: That show because I've never seen there before.

808
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so VH one. This was created by David Fishoff,

809
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 5: one of the co creators of Gladiators, remember that back

810
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: in the day.

811
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, awesome, turbo nice.

812
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, all those and so he created a rock and

813
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 5: roll Fantasy Camp. Basically he was he wanted to do

814
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: corporate guys that wanted to be in a band and

815
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: get these rock stars together. Well then they made a

816
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: reality show out of it, and the reality show participants

817
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 5: had to be able to play an instrument. And I

818
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: was the only one. They invited all of us to

819
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 5: be on, but I was the only one who was

820
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: up for it. And it was cool because, uh, they

821
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: treated me like a king. So I'm hanging out with

822
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 5: kitp Winger and Lemmy and lead to Ford and and

823
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: Michael's from Poison and and all these get to meet,

824
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: like all these guys, all these crazy rock stars. It

825
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: was it was legit. They're sharing some some wild stories. Man,

826
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 5: I can't repeat them on.

827
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: Here, but I get it and say less.

828
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 5: But it was neat because we go into this competition

829
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: thing where I'm playing drums with these these guys who

830
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 5: can jam a little bit, and uh, kit Winger was

831
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: our guy. Over the top of it. Mark Hudson was

832
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: a big fan and he helped he helped co create

833
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: like Aerosmith's big albums or some of their big albums,

834
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: and so it was just it was a cool experience

835
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: that I got to be in sit here in l

836
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: A and like play celebrity a little bit, which this

837
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: is neat. Is neat to me?

838
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 4: Is it true that you won that, either you or

839
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 4: your group Free Reign one Revolver Magazine's Golden gob Award

840
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: for Most Metal Athletes.

841
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: What an award I've.

842
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: Never heard, you know what's funny about that? So we

843
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: did that show and they announced us as the winners,

844
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 5: and we got the biggest boot ever.

845
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: No way we're met.

846
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: We're in a raider country at the time, so bad.

847
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: It was hilarious and I came up and it was

848
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: funny because Leonard Leonard was cool because he's like, I

849
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 5: want to thank my wife and I get up there

850
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: and I was all charged up. Listen, this is pre faith, okay,

851
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: so you gotta give me some grace. But I was like,

852
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 5: if you don't like the cowboys, screw you, and a

853
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 5: little more colorful language than that. And it just got

854
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 5: more more boots. But it was cool because, I mean,

855
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: same thing we got to We got to go hang

856
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: out with more cool people. Get me David Groll, Dave

857
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: Groll and and talk to these talk to all these

858
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: rock stars and it was create Marilyn Manson walking by,

859
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's wild and uh so, I mean these

860
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: are all people like I grew up high school listening too. Yeah,

861
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: and that's a totally different And.

862
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: You start a garage band with teammates and now you

863
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: get all this accidents.

864
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: Out.

865
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: We asked this question to a lot of our Before

866
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: you do this question, you don't even know what I'm

867
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: gonna ask. I'm totally making I'm totally making it up.

868
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: We'll make it up in a second. I want I

869
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 3: want to ask you something because.

870
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: He's the worst you.

871
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: I just because I.

872
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: Think this is great advice for a lot of people,

873
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: just in life in general. And you talked about this

874
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: in an interview in one of your podcasts, and you

875
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: talked about when you were trying to hang on to

876
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: this dream of making it back to the NFL, and

877
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: that how so often in life, too many of us

878
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: hang on to a dream, you pass up on so

879
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: many great opportunities, Like for you, you missed out because

880
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: you were trying to wait on this call. So I

881
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: chose not to go to my national championship reunion with

882
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: your teammates, and how important that was, and you just

883
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: look back, like, because I'm just so ingrained and just

884
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: so caught up in this, I missed out on the

885
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: time of my life because you don't get that back.

886
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: How often do you get to hang out with your

887
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: friends from college and like get to actually be you know,

888
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: celebrated together once again. And so I want you to

889
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: kind of share with us how you've kind of come

890
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: through that full circle and what kind of advice would

891
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: you give so many other people that it may be

892
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: stuck in the lane or feeling like they're trapped, or

893
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: that they're hanging on for the right opportunity for this

894
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: one thing, and what they're really possibly doing is maybe

895
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: missing out.

896
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and it's crazy. I was so rigid, IM

897
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: so rigid, and I had to be here. I had

898
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: to do this. I had to look a certain way,

899
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: and I didn't. I was up tight, and even though

900
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 5: like I had a good demeanor other places, I was

901
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: so uptight in this category. And because that was the case,

902
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 5: and this is what happened, I think my last couple

903
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: of years in the league, my play declined because I

904
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 5: was so rigid in that place in my head and

905
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 5: instead of like you ever had the give up moment

906
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: where you're like, SCREWT, I don't care anymore, I'm gonna play,

907
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, something amazing happens, and

908
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: it's the release. It's this physical, spiritual, emotional release of

909
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 5: whatever the weight is that you're carrying. And in that situation,

910
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 5: so I'm trying to hold out. I'm trying to We're

911
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: living in New Jersey at the time, living in an apartment,

912
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: trying to hold out for a workout or whatever. And

913
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: I remember thinking it was a ten year anniversary of

914
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: a two thousand and one national title in Montana, and

915
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: I'm sitting I'm like, well, what if I get a call,

916
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: then leave, I mean, go on the trip. If you

917
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: get a call, leave the trip. So what if that's

918
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: what you want, That's fine, right, And I look back

919
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 5: and I'm like, such an idiot. And we do that, though,

920
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: but we get so caught up in just this, and

921
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: you know, like I can't and I get it. I

922
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: get it, burn the ships, all that. But life has

923
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: so much flavor and so much opportunity around us that

924
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: we ignore all of it just to go down the

925
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: path that we think that we're supposed to go down.

926
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: And the thing is God starts bringing you all these

927
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: things around you, and now don't I don't want to

928
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: say take away your laser focus, because you still got

929
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 5: to do your thing. What I'm saying is, especially for

930
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 5: guys that are transitioning or maybe even looking to transition,

931
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: as like have this conversation on the side, don't let

932
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 5: it distract from like go and taking care of business

933
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: on the you know, in the on the field or

934
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 5: whatever you're supposed to do. But make sure you're having

935
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: the conversation on the side because you're talking about, you know,

936
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: five to ten years of your life. Are we going

937
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 5: to live till where eighty? Hopefully? Because I want to yeah.

938
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you like, as soon as I started

939
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 5: releasing a lot of those things was when other opportunities

940
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: started coming in and so, like somebody wouldn't invite me

941
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: to a networking deal, like hey, I want you to

942
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: come someone like influential too. I can't, man, I can't

943
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: do that. I'm going to be here. Well, you could

944
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 5: meet somebody who's going to change your whole world.

945
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

946
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 5: And I talked to this guy this morning who's trying

947
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: to he's selling life insurance, and he was telling me

948
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: how he got thrown out of a barber shop. Barbershop.

949
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 5: He's trying to help them set up their benefits for

950
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 5: their company and he he goes, Man, I walked in

951
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: two days later. The guy kicked me out. It was embarrassing.

952
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: I got kicked out. I walked in two days later

953
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 5: because I felt like I just needed to come back

954
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 5: and talk to him. And he goes, he goes, He's

955
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: like legit. It feels demeaning almost, but he was like,

956
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: I know, I see you sit down. I'll talk to

957
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 5: you in a minute. He like gestured that way, right,

958
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 5: He goes, but talk to the owner of this And

959
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 5: what ended up happening was it was a franchise for

960
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 5: a barbershop. He goes, I ended up getting the entire

961
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: health benefits package, selling his deal to this owner and

962
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: the entire franchise, and opening up two other of his

963
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 5: own locations as a franchise barbershop. And I'm like what,

964
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 5: and he goes, I went from being kicked out of

965
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 5: this place. Turns out the guy was just in a

966
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: bad mood. And I came back two days later, he

967
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: was cool, open to the whole thing and all that happened.

968
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 5: And I say that because if you're so rigid and

969
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: it's supposed to look the way I'm supposed to spoke,

970
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 5: I think it's supposed to look. And I get kicked out,

971
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 5: I'll never return, right. But if I just entered, retain

972
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of opportunities that are floating around me.

973
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 5: I'm going to find a piece of gold somewhere.

974
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

976
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 2: Can I ask my last question, please are you sure?

977
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: Please be positive?

978
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Mount Rushmore. You got four people, four picks. People

979
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: of influence, people, people that have poured into you, loved you,

980
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: helped you, mentoreds, you just helped you along your way

981
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: from the time you were born till today. Who would

982
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: those four people be.

983
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 5: That's a big one.

984
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: That's what you were thinking about. That was good. Thank you,

985
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: You're welcome.

986
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 5: Oh man, you're out. You're asking to narrow that way down.

987
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be people that are left off,

988
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: but that's the that's the purpose, that's the point.

989
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: You really got to get four good ones.

990
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 5: I'll tell you my high school wrestling coach and Sarah.

991
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: He helped me during my folks divorce and fighting. Yeah,

992
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 5: he spoke to he could speak to that and he

993
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 5: was super confusing a lot of the times. But what

994
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 5: are you doing, chorus, that's what you What are you doing?

995
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: Short little Greek dude stack though, But.

996
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: That's great impression.

997
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, I didn't expect that.

998
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: He was so like one guy.

999
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: He's like, man, you know rough time in my parents divorced,

1000
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: weird doing.

1001
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 3: He's just really good. It was good.

1002
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: I didn't expect to hear that.

1003
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: Tell me by the wrong name. Chorus. Where does chorus

1004
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: come from? Do you idiot?

1005
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: Right?

1006
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: He called you?

1007
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

1008
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 5: That's why I love trash talk. Yeah, Sarah, because I'd say,

1009
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: currently in my business, Aaron Botsford, she is a woman

1010
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 5: of faith. She is she has accelerated a ton of

1011
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: stuff and and and really benefited my family a ton

1012
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 5: mm hmm, I'd say, I'd say my dad. My dad

1013
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: didn't do everything right, but he worked. He worked around

1014
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: the clock as a veterinarian growing up like he'd be

1015
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 5: gone get a call one am ago, but he got

1016
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 5: He got destroyed financially through a couple of things. So

1017
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: but I remember when remember when we had to go.

1018
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 5: We went live with mom and he. I just still

1019
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: remember a hug he gave me and my brother like

1020
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: that one sat on me. So and then I'll tell

1021
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: you my wife is probably the last one because she's left.

1022
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 5: The way a wife, a woman can speak into a

1023
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: guy is different than anything else. And so I still

1024
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 5: remember the note she wrote to me, and my faith changed.

1025
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: I came to faith and she wrote me a note,

1026
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: and the note basically said, she goes, I knew you

1027
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 5: were different when I came out to you working out

1028
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 5: in the garage, and you were listening to worship and

1029
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 5: so I'm always big I have metal of country, and

1030
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 5: so those were only ones on the tunes usually, and

1031
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: so for me to be working out to worship music

1032
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 5: was different. And so she had time. She's had times

1033
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 5: where she could challenge me where nobody else could. Yeah,

1034
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 5: and because I responded to the challenge, we've had explosive

1035
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 5: growth in our marriage. And so those those are the

1036
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 5: people most I'd say right now.

1037
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: It's a good list, Sure list, Corey.

1038
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 5: We appreciate you, man, I appreciate it.

1039
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Guys, thanks for pouring in to us, sharing your story,

1040
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: your journey, the ups, the downs, your faith.

1041
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Like someone said it earlier.

1042
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Scuatory earlier and he was real

1043
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: big on saying, you know, I don't have to tell

1044
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: you about how faithful I am or not, excuse me,

1045
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: not how faithful. But I don't need to. I don't

1046
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: need to tell you about my faith. I can just

1047
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: show you with how I live my life. And clearly

1048
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: you're that guy. And yeah, man, I'm so grateful to

1049
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: have meant you, known you and just hear your story.

1050
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: It was beautiful.

1051
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Corey.

1052
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing man, great jolly and good luck.

1053
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: All right, continue to dominate, and your kids are the

1054
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: ones that would really be the true living gospel through you.

1055
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: You already know that though, because it's working. And thanks

1056
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 4: man for all of youers and listeners out there wherever

1057
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: you pick up your podcast at with this Apple podcast

1058
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: as aeheart Radio, please give us five star rating. I'm

1059
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: not actually begging, No I'm not. I'm telling you give

1060
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: us a five star rating. Hit the give us a review, comment, like, share, subscribe, Peanut,

1061
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: tell a friend to telephone to do what tele friends go.

1062
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, check us out on the NFL YouTube channel.

1063
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: You can see all these podcasts. He always forgets it.

1064
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's why I got you, boss.

1065
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: I love the Linny Kravitz shirt thing he got going

1066
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, he's a bigger Linny Kravits, way bigger

1067
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: lining crabs. But hey, we appreciate y'all tuning in. I'm

1068
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: Peanut Cory. This is a roaming Kravits Harbor and uh yeah,

1069
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: this is the NFL Player's Second Acts podcast, and we

1070
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: out