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Speaker 1: Wednesday is Wednesday, November fourth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number fifty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at
Speaker 1: the Star got Nick in here with me David Amber
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Speaker 1: little time from your election coverage to join us talk
Speaker 1: a little Cowboys football. Hopefully we can make this entertaining
Speaker 1: for you and give you a good forty five minutes
Speaker 1: of a respite from the anxiety that is the election.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of things we want to
Speaker 1: get into today. We'll have Bucky Brooks joining us. In
Speaker 1: the second segment. We're gonna start breaking down the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steeler offense versus the Cowboys defense. That'll be an interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that. Yesterday we find out
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton, who now has been placed on the
Speaker 1: reserved COVID nineteen list. Nick talk to me about how
Speaker 1: long he's presumably out and what does this mean for
Speaker 1: the team. At this point, it sounds like he could
Speaker 1: be out two weeks. I don't know unless McCarthy. I
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to hear McCarthy. Did he say
Speaker 1: something different? Did he say that? Because if he didn't
Speaker 1: say that, then no he didn't really Okay, Well then,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be honest about it. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: are not mentioning it. They're not really announcing, and they
Speaker 1: haven't really come forward and said a lot about this
Speaker 1: and what it could have been. Is it? You know?
Speaker 1: Obviously they don't have to say if whether he tested
Speaker 1: positive or not, he could have been around someone. It's
Speaker 1: different than I mean. But but the protocol he should
Speaker 1: be in there for fourteen days. Um, you know, Dave,
Speaker 1: I've heard some loopholes on these, like if if you know,
Speaker 1: if he passes so many tests, if if he if
Speaker 1: he wasn't tested positive, he could pass so many tests.
Speaker 1: But again, with the bye week coming up, I'm really
Speaker 1: not sure what the status is. I wish I knew,
Speaker 1: but I we really don't. We kind of left in
Speaker 1: the dark on this one. I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Is is he's obviously not gonna play this week, that
Speaker 1: bye week next week. I would imagine he would be
Speaker 1: cleared for you know, after that heading into the Minnesota game.
Speaker 1: Had the Cowboys have a game next week, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's a way he could get it.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't really matter because there's a bye boy Yeah,
Speaker 1: which comes out a great time for the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't it always? Well, why do you say that, Nick,
Speaker 1: which doesn't matter at this point. You know, I'm saying
Speaker 1: maybe three weeks ago it would have been nice, or
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe we can have more guys
Speaker 1: start at quarterback this week today? What were you about
Speaker 1: to say? It's I mean, it's it's very fortunate just
Speaker 1: in talking about Andy, you know, first for first and foremost,
Speaker 1: you know, I hope he's okay. I hope his family
Speaker 1: is okay. But it's fortunate for the Cowboys that they
Speaker 1: have that bye week because I guess you don't want
Speaker 1: to presume, but yeah, it seems it seems like a
Speaker 1: decent bet that he can be back for the game
Speaker 1: after the bye, so you know you don't have him
Speaker 1: on Sunday and then you can just kind of take
Speaker 1: it day by day from there. But it seems like
Speaker 1: a good bet that, you know, by the time the
Speaker 1: Minnesota game rolls around, you would like to think he
Speaker 1: could maybe be available. So it's fortunate timing in that regard,
Speaker 1: which nothing else about this season is fortunate, but it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I guess are there any other
Speaker 1: ramifications for the team at this point as far as
Speaker 1: them being able to practice a day. We've heard of
Speaker 1: teams that been shut down they aren't able to practice,
Speaker 1: so they aren't able to do in person meetings. Is
Speaker 1: there anything like that that the Cowboys are mind answered
Speaker 1: all of those questions, I'm sure he answered that we
Speaker 1: know they're practice today. Obviously, we know they're practicing today.
Speaker 1: So if they're practicing, then at least we know that
Speaker 1: they are able to come in and be in the building.
Speaker 1: And I think the good part here was that Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton didn't travel, you know, he wasn't He stayed at home,
Speaker 1: and then I guess that's whatever the situation is. It
Speaker 1: happened maybe this weekend while he was at home. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will have an interesting decision this weekend amber
Speaker 1: they will have to choose between Garrett Gilbert and Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: They've already made it clear that Denuccia is probably not
Speaker 1: going to be the choice as a starting quarterback. Who
Speaker 1: do you think smokes most likely to start versus Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush. Before answering that question, can
Speaker 1: I quickly ask Nick? I know you'd take the test.
Speaker 1: How quickly do they give you, guys the results? I
Speaker 1: take the test every morning, every morning, every for the
Speaker 1: last how many months? Three months? Now in a while.
Speaker 1: I take the test at about ten o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: You usually, and I would say that my email comes
Speaker 1: in around one in the morning, two in the morning,
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, I'm not the quarterback of the team.
Speaker 1: You still returns every night? No? No, I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: when it comes in and you see it, it's hard
Speaker 1: to just go to bed. I mean, you have a
Speaker 1: like But I have been told that a trainer would
Speaker 1: call A trainer would call me way before. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: would not wait until one o'clock. If you get the
Speaker 1: one o'clock, that means you're I mean, okay, and truth
Speaker 1: be told, since we're talking about it. I actually saw
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in the car. I saw him in his
Speaker 1: car and then talking to him yesterday or two days
Speaker 1: ago or whatever. I wasn't sure who it was at first,
Speaker 1: but it was him, and you know they were they
Speaker 1: were talking to him about you know, what's going to
Speaker 1: happen through all this another. But I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're going with your questionnaire, but I would say
Speaker 1: it's about twelve hours maybe a little bit more for
Speaker 1: for the test. That I know where I was going
Speaker 1: is because obviously we know he didn't travel with the team,
Speaker 1: but we also knew that he was taking part in
Speaker 1: the meetings and he was just still around the facility.
Speaker 1: So I was just wondering how quickly he was able
Speaker 1: to get that result from the test and how much
Speaker 1: he was around the teammates. But clearly none of them,
Speaker 1: or at least that we know of, no one else
Speaker 1: has tested positive so far, so it seems that at
Speaker 1: least the Cowboys are not having to shut down their
Speaker 1: facility or anything like we've seen from other teams. But Derek,
Speaker 1: to answer your question, between these two quarterbacks, clearly not
Speaker 1: much experience there. But my assumption would be that maybe
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, just because of the fact that he's been
Speaker 1: here before, he knows some of these guys, so he's
Speaker 1: probably more a lot more familiar than Garrett Gilbert is
Speaker 1: at this point. Dave, what do you think? I made
Speaker 1: this comment as a joke yesterday, And the more that
Speaker 1: I'm forced to confront this reality, the more I'm just
Speaker 1: leaning into it, to be honest with you, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has been here for three years, Garrett Gilbert's
Speaker 1: been in the league for six years. They've combined to
Speaker 1: throw nine NFL passes in their regular season. So what
Speaker 1: I what I would do is wildcat this bad boy
Speaker 1: from the get and just let Tony Pollard and Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott handle it. Like, just let's go Nick, you remember
Speaker 1: the glory days, Darren McFadden and Felix Jones. Let's get
Speaker 1: this thing rolling. Man. I'm so I'm so serious, I
Speaker 1: really like, what business do you have trying to pass
Speaker 1: against this defense? Like with this offensive line, with those quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe you know, I don't know, one of
Speaker 1: those guys played quarterback at some point in his career.
Speaker 1: Maybe Tony Pollard played some quarterback in high school, or
Speaker 1: through some passes. Maybe you can string together a few
Speaker 1: plays where they throw, or maybe you can let Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson do it. But I would honestly go full like
Speaker 1: triple option, read option all day every day. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do that. I guess. I guess I
Speaker 1: would start Cooper Rush if I had to, But I'm serious,
Speaker 1: I would probably just play wildcat for the whole game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I remember, and Nick you and I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this last week. That was there was
Speaker 1: that game between the Dolphins and I think it was
Speaker 1: the Patriots years ago. It was Ronnie Ronnie Brown, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Brown back, and they basically went into the game,
Speaker 1: We're just like, hey, we're just going wildcat this thing.
Speaker 1: And I remember, I don't remember they won, but I
Speaker 1: remember they played it close, and I think they did win.
Speaker 1: And and it was they basically, David said, they just
Speaker 1: basically went in and said, look, we got no shot. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: let's just do this. Let's give ourselves because that's the
Speaker 1: thing about wildcat, you give yourself advantages with numbers in blocking, right,
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's the option that's the again with
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's banged up, with the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are inexperience. Maybe Dave's right, maybe that's the way you
Speaker 1: kind of look at this thing, you know, I think, um,
Speaker 1: I think that would do some elements of it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would just say not have the
Speaker 1: quarterback on the field at all. I think I would.
Speaker 1: I would do kind of like they did in the
Speaker 1: game aim the other day, but maybe more of it
Speaker 1: where the quarterback is there, he lines up. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that, like, it kind of sucks
Speaker 1: to have like a cornerback sitting over there. He's not
Speaker 1: doing anything with facing a unathletic, you know, quarterback. But
Speaker 1: what else would you do. You're not gonna put a
Speaker 1: linebacker over there because then that takes away what they
Speaker 1: want to do in the middle. So, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I would do that. I agree with him. I'd
Speaker 1: start Cooper rush Um. Oh god, just you know, just
Speaker 1: listening to it, it sounds weird, but I would I'd
Speaker 1: start him. The thing about Gilbert, he's he's very tall.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like six five. I mean, so I
Speaker 1: guess he could see down the field a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to, if you wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: extend the you know, stin things down the field. I
Speaker 1: just don't know she's got the arm strength to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I mean, I know he played.
Speaker 1: It was a great high school quarterback, and he was
Speaker 1: college he just you know, he went to Texas and
Speaker 1: then SMU or whatever. Yeah, it's definitely bounced around. I
Speaker 1: just think Cooper Rush is probably gonna know what Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore is trying to do a little bit better, right,
Speaker 1: because I don't know that there's an appreciable difference in
Speaker 1: their skill set. I don't I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything I've seen from Garrett Gilbert is you're right. He
Speaker 1: was a great prospect coming out of high school. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen greatness from him since then. Like, I think
Speaker 1: he's okay, ati were in Yeah he was okay, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he was fine. So so my point is, like I
Speaker 1: don't know that he and Cooper Rush, like there's this
Speaker 1: real difference between the two of them from a skill
Speaker 1: set standpoint, But Cooper Rush obviously knows more about the
Speaker 1: offense and what Kelly Moore is trying to do. So
Speaker 1: to me, that makes him the more viable option. If
Speaker 1: you're just trying to say advantages disadvantages for each one,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably your biggest advantage. Do we agree
Speaker 1: with this though, I mean, does everybody agree that it
Speaker 1: should not be Denucci? I do yes. I think that
Speaker 1: game last week, we saw that that game was too
Speaker 1: big for him, and if Philadelphia's defense is too much
Speaker 1: for him, I mean, Pittsburgh is probably the most complex
Speaker 1: defense to figure out and probably have some of the
Speaker 1: best talent on their def into front and in the
Speaker 1: back end in the league. So if he couldn't figure
Speaker 1: it out against Philly, I don't think it's smart to
Speaker 1: turn around and throw him up against Pittsburgh. Do you, Dave,
Speaker 1: if you have something now so well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: not only not only that, Derek, but let's think about
Speaker 1: I think we would all agree the twenty seventeen game
Speaker 1: against Atlanta where Dak just got mauled by Adrian Clayborne.
Speaker 1: I think we would all agree like that game had
Speaker 1: some long lasting impact on him, Like it seemed like
Speaker 1: it messed up his confidence at least for the rest
Speaker 1: of that season. I think you could break Ben Denucci
Speaker 1: playing him in this game And that's not to say
Speaker 1: maybe he'll never be a good quarterback, but he might
Speaker 1: not ever recover from having to play a defense like
Speaker 1: this and just getting battered the way that he might
Speaker 1: get battered by that defensive front. I think it's in
Speaker 1: his best long term interests to not be out there
Speaker 1: get from a developmental standpoint, between these two guys, who
Speaker 1: would you say, because we love talking about quarterback mobility,
Speaker 1: and given the fact that the old line has so
Speaker 1: many issues just having a quarterback with the ability to
Speaker 1: react and be able to get away and try to
Speaker 1: buy himself a few extra spectives. Between these two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: who would you guys say, has just a little bit
Speaker 1: better mobility than the other? Cooper Rush, Yeah, maybe, I
Speaker 1: think I kind of agree with that. I've seen Garrett Gilbert.
Speaker 1: I just looked at him. I mean, he didn't get
Speaker 1: on the field the other day in Washington. Wouldn't let
Speaker 1: him on the field because he had to prove that
Speaker 1: he was a player and they didn't believe him. And
Speaker 1: he just I'm telling you he's not. He's Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be a more mobile quarterback than him.
Speaker 1: He's not. I mean, because when you're tall like that,
Speaker 1: it's hard to think that you're gonna be really you know,
Speaker 1: quick in the pocket and all that. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush would be Denucci is going to be
Speaker 1: your more mobile quarterback. Obviously thought so, but I didn't
Speaker 1: really see much of that in this last game either.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't I don't think he has
Speaker 1: the greatest awareness in the pocket. Like the number of
Speaker 1: times where guys just came through and hit him and
Speaker 1: he didn't even It's almost like he didn't even know
Speaker 1: they were coming to me. That's where it's like you
Speaker 1: couldn't even get a chance to see whether he could
Speaker 1: be mobile because he just didn't have a good feet
Speaker 1: off of what was coming at him. Win. And that's
Speaker 1: why I say Pittsburgh is a bad matchup for somebody
Speaker 1: that didn't have a good awareness of what's coming at him. Win.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I thought there were times where he
Speaker 1: could have run where he was scrambling and could have run,
Speaker 1: but then decided to throw. And he's like he doesn't
Speaker 1: really have a great arm. Yeah, I thought he had
Speaker 1: a better arm. His arm sneaky to me at times.
Speaker 1: It's it looks like he can really you know, zip it.
Speaker 1: And then there's other times when he had Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: way behind the defense and he threw it up and
Speaker 1: I thought it was a punt. Was that Was that
Speaker 1: the win because you were there? Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: win obviously wasn't. What was was a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1: We saw that in the kids. Well was that a
Speaker 1: part of the problem there? Yeah, it might have been.
Speaker 1: The wind was tricky too. I mean early in the
Speaker 1: game it was really bad, and I mean before game
Speaker 1: for the game, and then first half it wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: In the second half picked up again. So speaking of punts, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, um, let's talk about that. Chris Jones t
Speaker 1: happening with Chris Jones surgery. Chris Jones is having surgery
Speaker 1: on a core muscle injury and will be unavailable for
Speaker 1: multiple weeks. Huh. That's why you should buy your tongue sometimes,
Speaker 1: or me, when we're criticizing some of these players and
Speaker 1: talking crap, let me just call myself out. It's just
Speaker 1: one of those things that you just really never know
Speaker 1: what someone's dealing with. And maybe poor guy was struggling
Speaker 1: with this injury and was just trying to make the
Speaker 1: best out of it. And try just really making an
Speaker 1: effort out there. Years has that been the last three years,
Speaker 1: but he's been at this injury like he had. Wow. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys better be careful with what they
Speaker 1: say there because they have an injury report where he's
Speaker 1: supposed to be on it if he's injured. So if he,
Speaker 1: you know, to come back and save face and say say, hey,
Speaker 1: he's been hurt this whole time, they'd better be careful
Speaker 1: by saying that. So they did put him on the
Speaker 1: injury report last week, didn't say he was going to
Speaker 1: be questionable for the game. I mean, they just said
Speaker 1: he was limited in a practice, but he was gonna play.
Speaker 1: But you're right, Derek, I mean, his his numbers have
Speaker 1: just gone down. I looked them up just now. I
Speaker 1: mean they've they've gone down every year. This is not
Speaker 1: his worst year in punting average. It's his second worst.
Speaker 1: Last year was his worst. It's just he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that pop on the ball that he used to and
Speaker 1: he's had a back injury a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: This year obviously, it's the abdomen growing. You know, it's
Speaker 1: that's tough, and that's not a good area. I would
Speaker 1: think to punt. You know, well, at this point, the
Speaker 1: way I look at it is you got Hunter Niswander.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see how well he does. And if he
Speaker 1: does a good job, didn't cowboys made a side. That's
Speaker 1: a better move for them going forward, even when Chris
Speaker 1: Jones is back and healthy. You know, yesterday when we
Speaker 1: were when we were leaving the show, you know, we
Speaker 1: got a chance to see Hunter Niswander holding, which you
Speaker 1: had mentioned on the show, Like that's when you know
Speaker 1: something is washle holding. I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know about the surgery, but it was like,
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing there, they're gonna they're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: make a change here. And this guy, you know, he
Speaker 1: can he kicks off, he he puts, he could kick
Speaker 1: I guess if you need to, Iman airline's fine there.
Speaker 1: But so it sounds like he'll just be, you know,
Speaker 1: the punter and we'll see, you know, I mean about
Speaker 1: to play some cold weather games and it's gonna that
Speaker 1: that stuff's gonna be important, all right, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break when we come back. We got
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks joining us from NFL Network. He'll talk about
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh offense versus this Cowboys defense will do that
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Speaker 1: We're in the second segment of The Break live from
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We got Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: NFL Network joining us. Welcome to the show. Buck. How
Speaker 1: are you doing today? Man? I'm good. How you guys
Speaker 1: doing doing good? Doing good? I will start off the
Speaker 1: segment today and I have a little different question for you.
Speaker 1: I was looking at this Pittsburgh team and looking at
Speaker 1: some of their rankings. Their rush offense right now is
Speaker 1: ranked sixteenth in the league. Their pass offense is ranked
Speaker 1: twenty fourth. There's a bit of a shock to me
Speaker 1: because it looks like if you watch them like they
Speaker 1: look like a well oiled machine on offense. But here's
Speaker 1: the kicker. Their ranked fifth in points scored. How much
Speaker 1: of the effectness of their offense is dictated by the
Speaker 1: fact that their defense gives them turnovers in a short
Speaker 1: field because they are right now ranked second in turnovers
Speaker 1: that their defense forces. It is all about the defense,
Speaker 1: like the Pittsburgh steal is a back to their identity
Speaker 1: because when the Pittsburgh Stealers traditionally have been good, it's
Speaker 1: about their defense carrying the way and their stars are
Speaker 1: on defense. Their defense sets the table, they create turnovers,
Speaker 1: they create short fields, and what they've been able to
Speaker 1: do offensively is they've been able to cash in. Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is playing well, but let's make no mistake about it,
Speaker 1: He's not the same Ben Roethlisberger that we saw when
Speaker 1: it was the Killer Bees with Levan Bell and Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: It is a lot of dinkin dunk, quick rhythm, ball
Speaker 1: is out and then his playmakers are doing it. In fact,
Speaker 1: I found a stat he is getting the ball out
Speaker 1: quicker than anybody in the National Football League. From snap
Speaker 1: to throw is two point two nine seconds. No one
Speaker 1: else is close to that. And what you're getting they
Speaker 1: have these athletes on the perimeter, Chase Claypool, Juju Smith, Schuster,
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson, James washing Are Ibron. It's just catching run,
Speaker 1: catching run, They're breaking tackles, they're making plays and it's
Speaker 1: a very ball control offense and they've just been able
Speaker 1: to put the ball into pain when they get those opportunities. Blucky.
Speaker 1: We all know how bad the Cowboys defense has struggled
Speaker 1: all this season so far. Last week we saw a
Speaker 1: little spark in this game. What would be I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really, really hard, but what would be
Speaker 1: an area that the Cowboys could maybe try to focus
Speaker 1: on more to try to not be not have such
Speaker 1: a disadvantage between these two guys this game. This game
Speaker 1: will come down to tackling for the Cowboys because the
Speaker 1: ball is I mean, it makes it very hard to
Speaker 1: blitz and pressure him. He has actually been really good
Speaker 1: against the blitz Roethlisberger has And so what you have
Speaker 1: to do is, if you're gonna play the zone like
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan prefers to play, everybody has to tackle. It
Speaker 1: has to be a game where when they catch it,
Speaker 1: they got to be hit right immediately. The thing that
Speaker 1: you can do with the Pittsburgh still is is you
Speaker 1: can't let these five yard passes turn into ten and
Speaker 1: fifteen yard games because that's what they're living on. And
Speaker 1: we have seen Treyvon Diggs and some of the corners
Speaker 1: have had problems with crossing routes trying to figure out
Speaker 1: do I go, do I stay? Are we in man?
Speaker 1: Are we in zone? The Pittsburgh Stillers are living on
Speaker 1: these crossing routes. So having a clear understanding of what
Speaker 1: coverage you're in, having a clear field for a we're
Speaker 1: gonna zone off all these crossing routes and we're gonna
Speaker 1: rally and tackle. They have to make sure they have
Speaker 1: a clear plan and then they just have to tackle
Speaker 1: in space. That would be the biggest challenge for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this week. Oh is that I thought Nick was
Speaker 1: in front of me. I'm sorry, Bucky, we don't We
Speaker 1: only see. You know, we only see the Steelers every
Speaker 1: like four years, so I feel like, you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of go off reputation, like you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: this isn't the Killer Bees offense that it was a
Speaker 1: few years ago. But Pittsburgh their reputation. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have the offensive line that most people associate with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: at least it seems that way. I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: the status of their offensive line, because going into this matchup,
Speaker 1: I'm worried that they're just going to be able to
Speaker 1: road grade the Cowboys out of the way. Is that fair? No,
Speaker 1: they're not the same offensive line. They can't necessarily mash
Speaker 1: like you would like to think, like, this isn't the
Speaker 1: same kind of offensive line that they head with Levan
Speaker 1: Bill where they were able to run the ball and
Speaker 1: Levan Bill would go crazy. James Corner is fine, Like
Speaker 1: he's okay running back. He has for undred in ninety
Speaker 1: eight yards. They've been able to kind of get it
Speaker 1: when they're up and kind of running out the clock.
Speaker 1: But it's a Hodge Poles. They're playing young guys on
Speaker 1: the inside. David Decastroy set out some games and so
Speaker 1: they're fine. Their big deal has been an under This
Speaker 1: will paying you being an LSU fan. Matt Canada has
Speaker 1: come in as theirs, as their as their quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: But what he's done, he has given them the bills
Speaker 1: and whistles that he's always done at the college level.
Speaker 1: So you will see a lot of fly sweep action,
Speaker 1: a lot of shifts, a lot of motions to try
Speaker 1: and divert your eyes, and then they had run a
Speaker 1: compliment of plays off of that. You will see Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool get a handful of jet sweeps and all those
Speaker 1: guys are doing it. So they stretch you horizontally with
Speaker 1: all the action and then they come downhill behind it.
Speaker 1: It would be very similar to the way that La
Speaker 1: Rams try to attack the opening game, where they rant
Speaker 1: all that horizontal motion and they try to run the
Speaker 1: ball behind it. So you just have to be disciplined.
Speaker 1: You have to understand where your gaps are and be sound,
Speaker 1: and then you just have to run and chase. You
Speaker 1: got to make sure that you rally to the ball
Speaker 1: and you gain tackle this week. So the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: has to be disciplined if they're going to be successful.
Speaker 1: That's terrifying. Look, but you have to build on what
Speaker 1: happened last week. I think building upon what happened last week,
Speaker 1: you have to ignore all the other stuff. They took
Speaker 1: a step in a positive direction because I felt like
Speaker 1: they played harder. I felt like they ran to the ball,
Speaker 1: and maybe by clearing out some of the veterans in
Speaker 1: the locker room, I think they got their attention. Because
Speaker 1: last week was the first time that we saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of the Dallas defense that we thought that
Speaker 1: we would see, forcing turnovers in those things. I think
Speaker 1: they have to build upon that. But this has to
Speaker 1: be their most physical effort, and we'll see if they're
Speaker 1: up to the challenge. You mentioned a little earlier that
Speaker 1: Ben's getting the ball out really quickly. I saw also
Speaker 1: that he's only been hit twelve times this season. So
Speaker 1: if you can't hit him, how do you disrupt the
Speaker 1: guy like Ben Roethlisparker. You have to cover. He's not
Speaker 1: the athlete that he was before. The thing they used
Speaker 1: to worry about Ben Roethlisberger was the extended plays he
Speaker 1: would run around. You had Ab there. Ab is great
Speaker 1: at Sandlott Football. He would uncovered they were through a
Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown. Ben Roethlisberger doesn't like to run around
Speaker 1: like that. He also doesn't have what I would call
Speaker 1: the arm strength to push it down the field like
Speaker 1: he used to. And so the thing that you can
Speaker 1: do is sometimes you have to change the number of
Speaker 1: guys that you have dropping Sometimes you drop seven, sometimes
Speaker 1: you drop eight. Force them to fit it in the windows.
Speaker 1: And most importantly, you can't let those physical athletes that
Speaker 1: they have on the outside get loose in space. You
Speaker 1: gotta knock those guys down. Because as much as I
Speaker 1: talked about their wide receivers, their wide receivers are really terrific,
Speaker 1: but they're not like the Cowboys wide receivers. They're kind
Speaker 1: of like Juju Smith. Schuster is not a number one,
Speaker 1: he's a number two. Deontay Thompson, James Washington, Chase Claypool,
Speaker 1: like they're fine. Chase Claypool has kind of been the revelation.
Speaker 1: They're the only team with three wide receivers with over
Speaker 1: twenty receptions, and so you have to take care of them.
Speaker 1: But you have a couple of these guys averaging nine
Speaker 1: yards of catch, so they're not really hurting you. It's
Speaker 1: really just like water torture, just a little drop here,
Speaker 1: dropped there, dropped there, moving the chains. They're not getting
Speaker 1: these big plays, They're just moving the chains, so you
Speaker 1: have to make sure you tackle them and keep them
Speaker 1: under control. I'll go, I'll go, I'll I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I skipped my turn because basically I was about to
Speaker 1: ask if the Cowboys defense played better or was it
Speaker 1: just Carson Wentz and you kind of made it. You
Speaker 1: answered that already said that the defense did play better.
Speaker 1: But I'll ask you this. Last week, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: Cheeto is supposed to come back because I thought he was.
Speaker 1: What do you do with Diggs? And you said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you think Diggs need to break a little bit,
Speaker 1: and he gave up a couple of touchdowns, but he
Speaker 1: also had two picks. If Cheeto does come back this
Speaker 1: week from the hamstring from hell, do you think that
Speaker 1: he will still play? Do you think Diggs? Would you
Speaker 1: bench him now? Well? I think then, and he has
Speaker 1: a couple of takeaways and he picked off fasts. I
Speaker 1: think that more fine to keep him out there. I
Speaker 1: think Cheeto Cheeto probably goes into the nickel. I think
Speaker 1: the thing with Diggs is Diggs's talent is impressive. It
Speaker 1: stands out on tape when you watch him right like
Speaker 1: he's long, he makes plays. He has good ball skills,
Speaker 1: being a former wide receiver. In those things, it's the
Speaker 1: lapses where he falls asleep at the wheel and he's
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. We didn't see those as
Speaker 1: much against Philadelphia. The plays that he gave up, he
Speaker 1: was just beat on the play. He's in position that
Speaker 1: got me to play. The throw was perfect and it happens.
Speaker 1: I think the big thing is continuing to simplify the
Speaker 1: game for him so he knows exactly what he's able
Speaker 1: to do. He has played at a high level, so
Speaker 1: I think you certainly have to keep him out there.
Speaker 1: But you do need Cheeto back, You need all your
Speaker 1: guys back so you can play well. I think you
Speaker 1: have to be encouraged by the effort because last week
Speaker 1: was a winnable game. I would say that the offense
Speaker 1: didn't help them out in terms of winning the game,
Speaker 1: but from a defensive effort it was better. Now, can
Speaker 1: you build upon that and really take a big stride
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Still this team that is much better
Speaker 1: than the Philadelphia Eagles. You really kind of talked about
Speaker 1: the turnovers and how important that is and the fact
Speaker 1: that we were able to start seeing that last weekend.
Speaker 1: And yes, part of that is attributed to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But in this game, I mean, is there any chance
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are just able to at least create
Speaker 1: some kind of turn over. Yeah, I think they can
Speaker 1: create turnovers. The thing about it is last week the
Speaker 1: turnovers came because the quarterback was hit. You saw three
Speaker 1: or four sacks, You saw a bunch of quarterback six pressure.
Speaker 1: Those things change the way to quarterback plays for Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger because he gets the ball out so quick. This
Speaker 1: should be a game where, if I ask you what
Speaker 1: it looked like a practice, the D line has to
Speaker 1: work on getting their hands up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: If anything, the turnovers would come off bad at passes, deflections,
Speaker 1: tip balls, and overthrows. It has to be a concerted
Speaker 1: effort to If Ben Roethlisberger is going to get it out,
Speaker 1: the D line has to time their jump at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and see if they can deflect and
Speaker 1: distort some of these passes by clogging the passing lanes.
Speaker 1: If they do that, some of the interceptions in turnover
Speaker 1: certainly can happen. I know when we already we've been
Speaker 1: talking about how this is, you know, a lot more conservative.
Speaker 1: You know, the deep shots that Ben Roethlisberger is so
Speaker 1: famous for maybe aren't happening as much this year. But
Speaker 1: I mean he can still do that though, right because
Speaker 1: I gotta assume they're gonna want to try to take
Speaker 1: some shots seeing as how it works for everybody else.
Speaker 1: He still can't do it, but he can't do it
Speaker 1: as consistently as he used to do it. If he's
Speaker 1: going to take a shot, I mean, your alert has
Speaker 1: to be on number eleven. Like if I'm in the
Speaker 1: dB room, we have to be mindful of where number
Speaker 1: eleven is. He is the one that is going to
Speaker 1: get the shots, and that's Chase Claypool. So let's be
Speaker 1: aware of where he is at all times. Let's make
Speaker 1: sure that we are playing top down coverage, meaning we're
Speaker 1: making him catch things going back to the quarterback. But
Speaker 1: he is the guy when it comes to the deep shot.
Speaker 1: If the deep shot happens, it is when Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: sees you walked up in snug coverage press man to
Speaker 1: man and he takes the fade right away. It is
Speaker 1: not what it used to be, where he would wait
Speaker 1: and wait and wait and then air it out. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have that. He just had the club in his
Speaker 1: bag anymore. Since he had the elbow surgery, he hasn't
Speaker 1: shown that so crowd. You can crowd them, but you
Speaker 1: just better make sure that you understand who the deep
Speaker 1: targets are and make sure that you have a plan
Speaker 1: for taking those. As a way, as a follow up
Speaker 1: to that, you mentioned Chase Claypool. He's been really good
Speaker 1: for them this season. Does Dallas have the defensive backs
Speaker 1: the size of defensive backs to match up with Claypool size?
Speaker 1: Because he looks like a really big receiver. He looks
Speaker 1: like a physical receiver, but he looks like a physical
Speaker 1: receiver that can run. Do they have the size to
Speaker 1: be able to match up with him? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I think they can match up with him. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that you have to do with a big
Speaker 1: guy like that in a way, we've seen Dallas play
Speaker 1: a little more conservative, so they've been off coverage more,
Speaker 1: meaning they they'll give you all the short stuff with Claypool.
Speaker 1: The thing that you want to do a big guy
Speaker 1: like that in a way, you kind of want to
Speaker 1: jam him and make him restart, or if you can
Speaker 1: get a sense of what routes he likes to run,
Speaker 1: you can squat on some of those things to to
Speaker 1: really make it tough. I think Diggs would be if
Speaker 1: they get into I think where they want to match up.
Speaker 1: I think this is your best option in terms of
Speaker 1: matching up with him, just because of the length. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if you feel the need to travel
Speaker 1: with him at this point. He has made some plays.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's made enough play needs to
Speaker 1: get the special attention yet. Okay, we appreciate that, Bucky,
Speaker 1: really good stuff. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about this Pittsburgh defense versus the Cowboys offense.
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Speaker 1: War talking Cowboys defense versus Philadelphia Offense. Pittsburgh. I wish
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, sorry, Pittsburgh, Sorry State. I want
Speaker 1: to send some that I was like, did they did
Speaker 1: they trade WENTZ to Pittsburgh? No? Would have been nice?
Speaker 1: All right? Um? I did have some questions for you guys,
Speaker 1: particular to the Cowboys defense, and I want to start
Speaker 1: with you know, obviously we talked about how well they
Speaker 1: played last week. I thought they played really well. I
Speaker 1: think there's kind of mixed reviews on that. Some think
Speaker 1: that it maybe was just Philadelphia decided they didn't want
Speaker 1: to run the ball anymore for whatever strange reason. But
Speaker 1: all that being said, how much faith do you have
Speaker 1: that the defense can continue to show improvement at least
Speaker 1: because I do think we all agree that they were
Speaker 1: better against a much better opponent. Let's start first with you,
Speaker 1: Nick Well. I think that I don't know if Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: or any other quarterbacks is gonna make some of those
Speaker 1: throws that were picked off by Diggs. I think most
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, including Roethlisberger, probably fumble if they
Speaker 1: get hit by Layton like that, and Donovan Wilson like that.
Speaker 1: They made some nice plays on the ball, so they
Speaker 1: created some of those turnovers and that's something we really
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of. Again, I'm really impressed with
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. I mean, I like what he's what he's shown,
Speaker 1: and they're giving him a chance. And the fans that
Speaker 1: were you know, yelling saying, let's see this guy. They
Speaker 1: were right, you know, I mean, he's he's going to
Speaker 1: continue to play better. I got to talk to him
Speaker 1: last week and he was just like he's like, the
Speaker 1: game's moving slower for me now and I'm moving faster.
Speaker 1: I thought that awesome. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's
Speaker 1: what it's about, you know, when a young player like that,
Speaker 1: So I you know, I think it's encouraging. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: when they probably could have run the ball more. They
Speaker 1: should have because they're getting blown off the ball there.
Speaker 1: But I think I think they can shore that up,
Speaker 1: which I don't know if they can. Maybe Ellie and
Speaker 1: Ellie and Coo. I don't know how to say his
Speaker 1: last name. The name is Ellie. It's not Eli, it's Ellie. Hey,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I know that. Yeah, I got that part,
Speaker 1: you guys and Coo Yeah yeah, I mean again, I
Speaker 1: usually big guys don't get moved around that like that.
Speaker 1: So okay, hopefully you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
Speaker 1: the thing about Poe is that was what was surprising.
Speaker 1: Is a big guy like that, you don't expect him
Speaker 1: to get moved around, and hopefully this guy can can
Speaker 1: prove that right, Yeah, all right, but what do you think, Well,
Speaker 1: Twi's we're able to create some really nice plays last weekend.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that stood out to me
Speaker 1: the most was the kind of energy. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could tell there was like a whole different vibe on
Speaker 1: that field and they were just more energized and in
Speaker 1: the way that they were playing. I do think that
Speaker 1: that's going to be able to carry over to this weekend,
Speaker 1: and in the fact that you're gonna see that kind
Speaker 1: of motivation, that kind of effort, that kind of energy
Speaker 1: once again. But I don't think that they'll be able
Speaker 1: to be as successful as far as creating plays and
Speaker 1: turnovers and keep moments like that because of the kind
Speaker 1: of offense that they're playing this week and very very
Speaker 1: different than the Philadelphia Eagles. So I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be as successful, but I think that at least
Speaker 1: the energy and the will is going to be there.
Speaker 1: One thing to note about that, and I don't know
Speaker 1: Amber and Dave, I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: witnessed a Steeler game at at and T Stadium, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna feel it's gonna feel weird for Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: because it's not often that the Cowboys have a have
Speaker 1: a home game that feels maybe split, and I wonder
Speaker 1: with the reduced crowd, I wonder if that's that feels
Speaker 1: even more. I don't know. It's gonna be an interesting
Speaker 1: dynamic that I think we'll all be talking about as
Speaker 1: we get into the game. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna be split at all. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be seventy thirty the other way
Speaker 1: and it's no, I think it's gonna be seventy yes.
Speaker 1: Because this is there's no there's no um uh season
Speaker 1: ticket holders that just you know, have they're out the door.
Speaker 1: This is first come, first serving. Cowboy fans are like,
Speaker 1: who do we play this year? Steve. The fans have
Speaker 1: known since two thy twelve. When they go back, they
Speaker 1: know it's been eight years. So when all this hit,
Speaker 1: they're like, I gotta get get my hands on some tickets.
Speaker 1: They will be there. This is the year of the
Speaker 1: They're even more excited about it, and Cowboy fans are
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, whatever, Like for this year, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you it's going to be the most fans, you've
Speaker 1: ever ever seen as far as like a discrepancy, Dave,
Speaker 1: what do you think about I've never, I've never seen
Speaker 1: no good good Go ahead, you can I've never I've
Speaker 1: never seen I've never seen Pittsburgh play here, but I've
Speaker 1: been there for Denver games and forty nine Ers games.
Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine Er game in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about that for a year
Speaker 1: after it happened, and it was, you know, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were coming off a disappointing season and the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers were coming off a really good season. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the situation we're dealing with here. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think Nick is probably dead on with that. Um,
Speaker 1: they're fine read as far as the defense, just just
Speaker 1: prove it. Just I don't like prove it? Why Why
Speaker 1: should I? Why should I have to sell anybody on
Speaker 1: them keeping this up when I mean, you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen what we've seen. I think, uh what I mean?
Speaker 1: And Nick said it during one of the breaks like
Speaker 1: they had they had the Steelers had allowed Like I
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm trying to say. The point is, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you four hundred rushing yards, and they gave up
Speaker 1: two hundred against Baltimore the other day. That's like child's
Speaker 1: play for the Cowboys. They gave I mean three three
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards, the Browns two hundred to Washington. They
Speaker 1: played really great against Philadelphia. Ben Roethlisberger doesn't like to
Speaker 1: give the ball away as much as Carson Wentz does.
Speaker 1: I just I need to see it to believe it.
Speaker 1: I would guess that they're probably going to struggle in
Speaker 1: this game. So what do you guys think is the
Speaker 1: most critical thing that this Cowboys defense needs to do
Speaker 1: to be successful against the Pittsburgh offense ambules star Whew Well,
Speaker 1: I would say pressure the quarterback. But that's just gonna
Speaker 1: be so tough. I mean, you heard this counting report
Speaker 1: that Bucky gave on their offensive line and how good
Speaker 1: they are at protecting their quarterbacks. So it's gonna be really,
Speaker 1: really tough. But I mean that's where it all starts.
Speaker 1: Just trying to create some pressure that's gonna be I
Speaker 1: think very critical, including in the running game. I mean
Speaker 1: I wish there could be a specific area that I
Speaker 1: could point out and say, Okay, you know what, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can dominate this part right here, and then they
Speaker 1: gotta win in this game. But I think that the
Speaker 1: Steeler are able to do so many other things that
Speaker 1: if they take something out, they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the other side of something else, whether
Speaker 1: it's the running game or the passing game. So it's
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be very difficult. But if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can manage creating some pressure, I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: really helpful for them. That's a great point, man. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that that that is a great point because
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you have to stop the runs.
Speaker 1: Sell out to stop the run and make Roethlisberger beat you.
Speaker 1: Make it two times super Bowl winning quarterback who's going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame beat you, and he will
Speaker 1: probably they just it's a pick your poison thing. And
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense don't do anything really that well, and
Speaker 1: the Steelers do everything well. So I actually, I mean,
Speaker 1: I yeah, obviously, if you can pressure the quarterback, you should,
Speaker 1: and that would help, But like, I don't think that
Speaker 1: they can. You know, you know, Bucky just talked about
Speaker 1: how quickly he gets rid of the ball, and obviously
Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't been great to get to the quarterback anyway.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a wash. Just rally and tackle.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know if they if they take short throws,
Speaker 1: you can't let them turn into big gains. That the
Speaker 1: jet sweep stuff should be terrifying, like I mean, And
Speaker 1: for those of you that didn't catch Bucky's reference, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matt Canada, he used to be LSU's offensive coordinator. His
Speaker 1: whole thing, his entire offense when he was an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator is predicated on jet sweeps, fly motions. You know,
Speaker 1: iye candy as people like to call it. That should
Speaker 1: be terrifying if you're a Cowboy fan, because you know
Speaker 1: how well they deal with that, which is not well
Speaker 1: at all. You just gotta you can't be deceived by
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you've got a rally and tackle
Speaker 1: and you know, have it be six eight ten yard
Speaker 1: gains instead of twenty five thirty five yard games Like
Speaker 1: that's what scares me in this matchup. Nick, you mentioned
Speaker 1: Cheeto Bay coming back possibly this week. Maybe you mentioned
Speaker 1: that to Bucky Brooks and kind of does what happened
Speaker 1: with with Diggs last week change your opinion on whether
Speaker 1: you would make or you'd sit Diggs in order for
Speaker 1: Cheeto to be the starter, or you kind of keep
Speaker 1: it the same and just bring Cheeto int your third
Speaker 1: What would you do in that situation. Diggs is playing.
Speaker 1: He's the first guy out of the tunnel when they
Speaker 1: announced defensive starters. He's playing. He's playing the rest of
Speaker 1: the season for me because he's a baller now and
Speaker 1: now he messes up and there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: He makes mistakes. They're all making mistakes. He's gonna be here.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be here for the next few years. I
Speaker 1: don't know that about Cheeto. I don't know that about
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown. He's got a contract, he'll be here.
Speaker 1: But I think I think you know. And I didn't
Speaker 1: ask Bucky about this. He wrote yesterday in his five
Speaker 1: bucks column. One of them was Diggs has a potential
Speaker 1: to be an all Pro player, all Pro. You don't
Speaker 1: say that about a lot of the other defensive guys.
Speaker 1: So he needs to learn keep going. He's, like I said,
Speaker 1: he was having to chase to find digs around to
Speaker 1: the entire house his whole life. So he doesn't get
Speaker 1: discouraged easily. He'll be fine. I keep him out there, Dave,
Speaker 1: you said last week, even before he had the game,
Speaker 1: that you would have kept him out there. Anyway you
Speaker 1: say keep him out there, has anything changed, I would
Speaker 1: ask at this point, no, Nick, Nick said it perfectly.
Speaker 1: He's him and Anthony Brown are the only guys in
Speaker 1: the secondary that have long term futures here. He needs
Speaker 1: to play, and I think, you know, we keep saying that,
Speaker 1: and I think he keeps proving us right like he
Speaker 1: seems like he's got the right mindset for it. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about I'm not worried about his self confidence
Speaker 1: or his belief. And he needs the reps because if
Speaker 1: he's going to develop into that player, they need it
Speaker 1: to happen now so that you know when they have
Speaker 1: another chance at this thing next year, he's ready to
Speaker 1: go and be a really, you know, meaningful piece of
Speaker 1: that team. What do your thought, Tamber, I'll have a question,
Speaker 1: and I guess it's gonna love. Margie has a question.
Speaker 1: This is hard for me to piece it together, but
Speaker 1: I hope he makes sense. Would you say that position
Speaker 1: and looking at him, knowing that he's a rookie and
Speaker 1: all that, would you say that you would need to
Speaker 1: give a guy like that, the most amount of reps
Speaker 1: for him to be able to kind of get out there,
Speaker 1: get the field going, and create some place. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one game specifically, versus maybe limiting his
Speaker 1: place so that when he does come in there is
Speaker 1: an extra pump of energy and he's able to maybe
Speaker 1: perform better in those specific snaps in place. Does that
Speaker 1: make any sense? No, I think it makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense, And I'll even take it a step further.
Speaker 1: It was the point I made last week that sometimes
Speaker 1: with a young guy, his ability after he's been out
Speaker 1: there and been in the fire, his ability to take
Speaker 1: a step back and be able to see things now
Speaker 1: from a different perspective from the sideline, can sometimes help him.
Speaker 1: The reps are important, obviously, but also being able to
Speaker 1: see things in a different light. Now he's been in
Speaker 1: the fire, he knows what it's like, so when he's
Speaker 1: watching it, he probably has a different appreciation for what's
Speaker 1: happening on the field, and there may be some learning
Speaker 1: that can happen from that as well. So I take
Speaker 1: that that overall question at both me and ag asked,
Speaker 1: and I'll throw it to Nick and David. You tell
Speaker 1: us what you think of it. No, it makes a
Speaker 1: good sense. I just think you don't. It's not like
Speaker 1: the guy that would be coming in for him is
Speaker 1: much better or better at all. I'm not even sure
Speaker 1: that he is. I would keep him out there, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule. You know, he's gone up
Speaker 1: against Robert Woods, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, DK Metcalf Lockett,
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, Landry Beckham. Hopkins's faced the best, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know, and they've got some really good players
Speaker 1: this week. But I know the rookie from Minnesota, Jeff Jefferson,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's really good too, But
Speaker 1: I just think that he's faced some good ones and
Speaker 1: now hit in the second half of the year. I
Speaker 1: think this is the time that maybe he can take
Speaker 1: the corner. Maybe we saw it in that game. So, um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him off the field because I really
Speaker 1: don't think the guy that would replace him as better. Dave.
Speaker 1: Not only that, not only do I not think the
Speaker 1: guy's better, Cheeto is the only corner on this team
Speaker 1: who I definitively think is better than Digs right now.
Speaker 1: So I agree with that, And then I just I
Speaker 1: don't see it, like I understand the logic. Maybe you
Speaker 1: do that with a running back, you know, like get
Speaker 1: the most juice possible out of him, But cornerback and
Speaker 1: quarterback are like those are volume positions, like you just
Speaker 1: you gotta have the reps. I mean, you could send
Speaker 1: him out there in the most favorable situation imaginable and
Speaker 1: he still might give up the play because that's the
Speaker 1: nature of the position. It's just it's it's such a
Speaker 1: hard job to play cornerback in the NFL, and I
Speaker 1: think the only way you really get better at it
Speaker 1: is reps on reps on reps, and and learning how
Speaker 1: to deal with the highs and lows of it. And
Speaker 1: that you know, if if we were worried about his
Speaker 1: mental makeup, like you know, we can even bring you know,
Speaker 1: bring up Mo Claiborn. I think Mo claiborne struggles early
Speaker 1: in his career really had an effect on his develop
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to trash the guy. I just that's what it
Speaker 1: looked like to me. Whereas I don't get that same
Speaker 1: sense with Digs that he is going to go into
Speaker 1: the tank if he struggles. I mean, he's bounced back
Speaker 1: in the face of every adversity that he's seen so far.
Speaker 1: So if I was worried that he was going to
Speaker 1: go into the tank, would I might agree, But I
Speaker 1: haven't seen evidence of that, So I say, just get
Speaker 1: out there and take your lumps and it'll make you
Speaker 1: a better player in the long run. Yeah. Quite Frankly,
Speaker 1: he's shown just the opposite. He's shown his ability to
Speaker 1: deal with adversity well, whether it's within a play as
Speaker 1: he did with a play with DK Metcalf when he
Speaker 1: was beat and came back and made a play. He's
Speaker 1: done it within games where he's been beat and then
Speaker 1: made plays later in the game. And he's done it
Speaker 1: week to week where he's been beat one week and
Speaker 1: he'll come back and he'll make a play the next week.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think everything points to the fact that
Speaker 1: this is not a guy that gets mental. This is
Speaker 1: a guy that can handle the rigors of playing cornerback. Cornerback,
Speaker 1: which for me personally, I think that's probably about at
Speaker 1: least fifty percent of the job of playing cornerback is mentally,
Speaker 1: can you stay in it when when bad things happen?
Speaker 1: And I think it looks like he certainly has that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you know, there's only three
Speaker 1: players on the defense that have played over five hundred snaps,
Speaker 1: and he's one of them. He's playing nine of the snaps,
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred and thirty two. Xavier Woods and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith have not missed a snap on defense. I
Speaker 1: don't care what they're doing. I mean, that's impressive, just
Speaker 1: just from a standpoint of, you know, staying in there
Speaker 1: and not getting banged up and having to come off
Speaker 1: the field. I know there's been a lot of talk
Speaker 1: maybe they should, you know, maybe they should come off
Speaker 1: the field a little bit. But but for Diggs, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot. All right, appreciate you join this.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into a little bit
Speaker 1: more conversation about the Cowboys offense versus the Pittsburgh defense.
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Even, Dave Helman, Amber Garcia. I
Speaker 1: am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on
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