WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Rush or Gilbert? 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:18.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.960 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.279 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:31.640 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:37.959 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.640 Wednesday is Wednesday, November fourth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.160 number fifty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.519 We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.960 the Star got Nick in here with me David Amber 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.840 at their remote locations. We appreciate you guys taking a 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.120 little time from your election coverage to join us talk 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.040 a little Cowboys football. Hopefully we can make this entertaining 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.640 for you and give you a good forty five minutes 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.920 of a respite from the anxiety that is the election. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.840 So we got a lot of things we want to 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.120 get into today. We'll have Bucky Brooks joining us. In 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.520 the second segment. We're gonna start breaking down the Pittsburgh 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:20.720 Steeler offense versus the Cowboys defense. That'll be an interesting conversation. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.759 But before we get to that. Yesterday we find out 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.200 about Andy Dalton, who now has been placed on the 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.959 reserved COVID nineteen list. Nick talk to me about how 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.480 long he's presumably out and what does this mean for 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.720 the team. At this point, it sounds like he could 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.480 be out two weeks. I don't know unless McCarthy. I 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.440 didn't get a chance to hear McCarthy. Did he say 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.759 something different? Did he say that? Because if he didn't 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.200 say that, then no he didn't really Okay, Well then, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.280 I mean, let's just be honest about it. The Cowboys 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.600 are not mentioning it. They're not really announcing, and they 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.200 haven't really come forward and said a lot about this 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.280 and what it could have been. Is it? You know? 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.240 Obviously they don't have to say if whether he tested 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.960 positive or not, he could have been around someone. It's 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.400 different than I mean. But but the protocol he should 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.200 be in there for fourteen days. Um, you know, Dave, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.640 I've heard some loopholes on these, like if if you know, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.079 if he passes so many tests, if if he if 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.919 he wasn't tested positive, he could pass so many tests. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.480 But again, with the bye week coming up, I'm really 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.320 not sure what the status is. I wish I knew, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.360 but I we really don't. We kind of left in 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.280 the dark on this one. I think it's gonna happen. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.359 Is is he's obviously not gonna play this week, that 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.240 bye week next week. I would imagine he would be 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.200 cleared for you know, after that heading into the Minnesota game. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.960 Had the Cowboys have a game next week, I'm not 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.080 I'm not sure if there's a way he could get it. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.200 But it doesn't really matter because there's a bye boy Yeah, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.040 which comes out a great time for the Cowboys. Yeah, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.840 doesn't it always? Well, why do you say that, Nick, 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.520 which doesn't matter at this point. You know, I'm saying 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.359 maybe three weeks ago it would have been nice, or 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.040 maybe I don't know, maybe we can have more guys 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.000 start at quarterback this week today? What were you about 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.800 to say? It's I mean, it's it's very fortunate just 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.000 in talking about Andy, you know, first for first and foremost, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.440 you know, I hope he's okay. I hope his family 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.520 is okay. But it's fortunate for the Cowboys that they 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.240 have that bye week because I guess you don't want 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.520 to presume, but yeah, it seems it seems like a 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.480 decent bet that he can be back for the game 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.359 after the bye, so you know you don't have him 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.639 on Sunday and then you can just kind of take 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.400 it day by day from there. But it seems like 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.000 a good bet that, you know, by the time the 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.519 Minnesota game rolls around, you would like to think he 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.120 could maybe be available. So it's fortunate timing in that regard, 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.680 which nothing else about this season is fortunate, but it 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.440 is what it is. I guess are there any other 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.560 ramifications for the team at this point as far as 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.440 them being able to practice a day. We've heard of 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.400 teams that been shut down they aren't able to practice, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.560 so they aren't able to do in person meetings. Is 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.360 there anything like that that the Cowboys are mind answered 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.120 all of those questions, I'm sure he answered that we 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.280 know they're practice today. Obviously, we know they're practicing today. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.400 So if they're practicing, then at least we know that 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.200 they are able to come in and be in the building. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.720 And I think the good part here was that Andy 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.800 Dalton didn't travel, you know, he wasn't He stayed at home, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.280 and then I guess that's whatever the situation is. It 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.279 happened maybe this weekend while he was at home. So 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.920 the Cowboys will have an interesting decision this weekend amber 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.920 they will have to choose between Garrett Gilbert and Cooper Rush. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.200 They've already made it clear that Denuccia is probably not 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.520 going to be the choice as a starting quarterback. Who 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.800 do you think smokes most likely to start versus Pittsburgh, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:40.200 Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush. Before answering that question, can 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.320 I quickly ask Nick? I know you'd take the test. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.680 How quickly do they give you, guys the results? I 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.440 take the test every morning, every morning, every for the 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.720 last how many months? Three months? Now in a while. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.640 I take the test at about ten o'clock in the morning. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.800 You usually, and I would say that my email comes 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.320 in around one in the morning, two in the morning, 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.520 something like that. Um, I'm not the quarterback of the team. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.120 You still returns every night? No? No, I mean sometimes 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.080 when it comes in and you see it, it's hard 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.320 to just go to bed. I mean, you have a 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.080 like But I have been told that a trainer would 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.800 call A trainer would call me way before. Yeah, you 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.680 would not wait until one o'clock. If you get the 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.599 one o'clock, that means you're I mean, okay, and truth 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.080 be told, since we're talking about it. I actually saw 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.640 Andy Dalton in the car. I saw him in his 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.440 car and then talking to him yesterday or two days 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.640 ago or whatever. I wasn't sure who it was at first, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.520 but it was him, and you know they were they 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.040 were talking to him about you know, what's going to 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.719 happen through all this another. But I don't know exactly 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.920 what you're going with your questionnaire, but I would say 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.960 it's about twelve hours maybe a little bit more for 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.080 for the test. That I know where I was going 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.479 is because obviously we know he didn't travel with the team, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.919 but we also knew that he was taking part in 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.760 the meetings and he was just still around the facility. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.920 So I was just wondering how quickly he was able 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.240 to get that result from the test and how much 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:16.240 he was around the teammates. But clearly none of them, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.320 or at least that we know of, no one else 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.760 has tested positive so far, so it seems that at 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.240 least the Cowboys are not having to shut down their 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.799 facility or anything like we've seen from other teams. But Derek, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:33.640 to answer your question, between these two quarterbacks, clearly not 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:38.080 much experience there. But my assumption would be that maybe 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.080 Cooper Rush, just because of the fact that he's been 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.760 here before, he knows some of these guys, so he's 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:48.200 probably more a lot more familiar than Garrett Gilbert is 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:53.039 at this point. Dave, what do you think? I made 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.760 this comment as a joke yesterday, And the more that 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.720 I'm forced to confront this reality, the more I'm just 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.320 leaning into it, to be honest with you, Like, Yeah, 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.599 Cooper Rush has been here for three years, Garrett Gilbert's 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.680 been in the league for six years. They've combined to 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.640 throw nine NFL passes in their regular season. So what 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.800 I what I would do is wildcat this bad boy 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.480 from the get and just let Tony Pollard and Zeke 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.960 Elliott handle it. Like, just let's go Nick, you remember 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.800 the glory days, Darren McFadden and Felix Jones. Let's get 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.320 this thing rolling. Man. I'm so I'm so serious, I 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.280 really like, what business do you have trying to pass 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.240 against this defense? Like with this offensive line, with those quarterbacks? 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.200 Maybe you maybe you know, I don't know, one of 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.640 those guys played quarterback at some point in his career. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.040 Maybe Tony Pollard played some quarterback in high school, or 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.000 through some passes. Maybe you can string together a few 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.160 plays where they throw, or maybe you can let Cedric 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.080 Wilson do it. But I would honestly go full like 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.440 triple option, read option all day every day. I don't 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.920 think they're gonna do that. I guess. I guess I 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.800 would start Cooper Rush if I had to, But I'm serious, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.280 I would probably just play wildcat for the whole game. Yeah, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.800 I think I remember, and Nick you and I think 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.680 we talked about this last week. That was there was 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.520 that game between the Dolphins and I think it was 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:17.400 the Patriots years ago. It was Ronnie Ronnie Brown, Yeah, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.000 Ronnie Brown back, and they basically went into the game, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.280 We're just like, hey, we're just going wildcat this thing. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.480 And I remember, I don't remember they won, but I 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.360 remember they played it close, and I think they did win. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.720 And and it was they basically, David said, they just 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.400 basically went in and said, look, we got no shot. Otherwise, 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.559 let's just do this. Let's give ourselves because that's the 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.040 thing about wildcat, you give yourself advantages with numbers in blocking, right, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.640 So maybe maybe that's the option that's the again with 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.440 an offensive line that's banged up, with the quarterbacks that 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.400 are inexperience. Maybe Dave's right, maybe that's the way you 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.960 kind of look at this thing, you know, I think, um, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.640 I think that would do some elements of it. I 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.840 don't know if I would just say not have the 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.920 quarterback on the field at all. I think I would. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.800 I would do kind of like they did in the 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.880 game aim the other day, but maybe more of it 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.240 where the quarterback is there, he lines up. You know, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.760 I've been thinking about that, like, it kind of sucks 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.920 to have like a cornerback sitting over there. He's not 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.280 doing anything with facing a unathletic, you know, quarterback. But 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.400 what else would you do. You're not gonna put a 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.800 linebacker over there because then that takes away what they 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.840 want to do in the middle. So, you know, I 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.000 think I would do that. I agree with him. I'd 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.480 start Cooper rush Um. Oh god, just you know, just 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.320 listening to it, it sounds weird, but I would I'd 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.800 start him. The thing about Gilbert, he's he's very tall. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:38.480 I mean, he's like six five. I mean, so I 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.400 guess he could see down the field a little bit. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.040 If you wanted to, if you wanted to kind of 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.600 extend the you know, stin things down the field. I 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.600 just don't know she's got the arm strength to do it. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.280 I don't, I don't know. I mean, I know he played. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.360 It was a great high school quarterback, and he was 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.840 college he just you know, he went to Texas and 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.520 then SMU or whatever. Yeah, it's definitely bounced around. I 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.920 just think Cooper Rush is probably gonna know what Kelly 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.960 Moore is trying to do a little bit better, right, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.520 because I don't know that there's an appreciable difference in 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.120 their skill set. I don't I don't know. I mean, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.160 everything I've seen from Garrett Gilbert is you're right. He 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.280 was a great prospect coming out of high school. I 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.959 haven't seen greatness from him since then. Like, I think 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.400 he's okay, ati were in Yeah he was okay, Yeah, okay, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.760 he was fine. So so my point is, like I 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.960 don't know that he and Cooper Rush, like there's this 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.040 real difference between the two of them from a skill 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.000 set standpoint, But Cooper Rush obviously knows more about the 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.120 offense and what Kelly Moore is trying to do. So 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.520 to me, that makes him the more viable option. If 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.280 you're just trying to say advantages disadvantages for each one, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.840 I think that's probably your biggest advantage. Do we agree 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.640 with this though, I mean, does everybody agree that it 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.280 should not be Denucci? I do yes. I think that 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.920 game last week, we saw that that game was too 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.679 big for him, and if Philadelphia's defense is too much 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.640 for him, I mean, Pittsburgh is probably the most complex 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.600 defense to figure out and probably have some of the 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.240 best talent on their def into front and in the 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.000 back end in the league. So if he couldn't figure 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.040 it out against Philly, I don't think it's smart to 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:11.200 turn around and throw him up against Pittsburgh. Do you, Dave, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.559 if you have something now so well, I was gonna say, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.679 not only not only that, Derek, but let's think about 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.160 I think we would all agree the twenty seventeen game 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.079 against Atlanta where Dak just got mauled by Adrian Clayborne. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.360 I think we would all agree like that game had 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.480 some long lasting impact on him, Like it seemed like 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.480 it messed up his confidence at least for the rest 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.800 of that season. I think you could break Ben Denucci 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.839 playing him in this game And that's not to say 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.920 maybe he'll never be a good quarterback, but he might 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.960 not ever recover from having to play a defense like 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.640 this and just getting battered the way that he might 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.560 get battered by that defensive front. I think it's in 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.840 his best long term interests to not be out there 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.240 get from a developmental standpoint, between these two guys, who 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.119 would you say, because we love talking about quarterback mobility, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.880 and given the fact that the old line has so 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.760 many issues just having a quarterback with the ability to 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.080 react and be able to get away and try to 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.599 buy himself a few extra spectives. Between these two quarterbacks, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.559 who would you guys say, has just a little bit 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:22.160 better mobility than the other? Cooper Rush, Yeah, maybe, I 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.959 think I kind of agree with that. I've seen Garrett Gilbert. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.679 I just looked at him. I mean, he didn't get 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.720 on the field the other day in Washington. Wouldn't let 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.240 him on the field because he had to prove that 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.320 he was a player and they didn't believe him. And 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:37.200 he just I'm telling you he's not. He's Cooper Rush, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.480 I think is gonna be a more mobile quarterback than him. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.360 He's not. I mean, because when you're tall like that, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.440 it's hard to think that you're gonna be really you know, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.040 quick in the pocket and all that. And I don't 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.960 think Cooper Rush would be Denucci is going to be 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.520 your more mobile quarterback. Obviously thought so, but I didn't 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.680 really see much of that in this last game either. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.560 First of all, I don't I don't think he has 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.440 the greatest awareness in the pocket. Like the number of 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.600 times where guys just came through and hit him and 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.000 he didn't even It's almost like he didn't even know 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.480 they were coming to me. That's where it's like you 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.280 couldn't even get a chance to see whether he could 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.880 be mobile because he just didn't have a good feet 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.720 off of what was coming at him. Win. And that's 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.200 why I say Pittsburgh is a bad matchup for somebody 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.559 that didn't have a good awareness of what's coming at him. Win. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.520 You know. Yeah, I thought there were times where he 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.360 could have run where he was scrambling and could have run, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.480 but then decided to throw. And he's like he doesn't 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.679 really have a great arm. Yeah, I thought he had 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.439 a better arm. His arm sneaky to me at times. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.319 It's it looks like he can really you know, zip it. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.920 And then there's other times when he had Dalton Schultz 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.000 way behind the defense and he threw it up and 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.960 I thought it was a punt. Was that Was that 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.880 the win because you were there? Yeah, I mean the 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.440 win obviously wasn't. What was was a bit of a problem. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.320 We saw that in the kids. Well was that a 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.920 part of the problem there? Yeah, it might have been. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.080 The wind was tricky too. I mean early in the 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.480 game it was really bad, and I mean before game 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.199 for the game, and then first half it wasn't so bad. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:58.440 In the second half picked up again. So speaking of punts, yeah, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.800 you know, um, let's talk about that. Chris Jones t 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:07.360 happening with Chris Jones surgery. Chris Jones is having surgery 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.480 on a core muscle injury and will be unavailable for 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.520 multiple weeks. Huh. That's why you should buy your tongue sometimes, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.880 or me, when we're criticizing some of these players and 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.240 talking crap, let me just call myself out. It's just 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.000 one of those things that you just really never know 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.360 what someone's dealing with. And maybe poor guy was struggling 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.800 with this injury and was just trying to make the 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.600 best out of it. And try just really making an 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:38.360 effort out there. Years has that been the last three years, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.880 but he's been at this injury like he had. Wow. Well, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.600 I mean, the Cowboys better be careful with what they 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.800 say there because they have an injury report where he's 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.520 supposed to be on it if he's injured. So if he, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.400 you know, to come back and save face and say say, hey, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.960 he's been hurt this whole time, they'd better be careful 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.520 by saying that. So they did put him on the 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.360 injury report last week, didn't say he was going to 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.960 be questionable for the game. I mean, they just said 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.920 he was limited in a practice, but he was gonna play. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.880 But you're right, Derek, I mean, his his numbers have 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.840 just gone down. I looked them up just now. I 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.160 mean they've they've gone down every year. This is not 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.280 his worst year in punting average. It's his second worst. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.240 Last year was his worst. It's just he doesn't have 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.960 that pop on the ball that he used to and 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.520 he's had a back injury a couple of years ago. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:31.240 This year obviously, it's the abdomen growing. You know, it's 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.880 that's tough, and that's not a good area. I would 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.920 think to punt. You know, well, at this point, the 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.120 way I look at it is you got Hunter Niswander. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.200 We're gonna see how well he does. And if he 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.080 does a good job, didn't cowboys made a side. That's 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.720 a better move for them going forward, even when Chris 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.200 Jones is back and healthy. You know, yesterday when we 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.720 were when we were leaving the show, you know, we 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.520 got a chance to see Hunter Niswander holding, which you 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.400 had mentioned on the show, Like that's when you know 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.160 something is washle holding. I was like, all right, well, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.040 and I didn't know about the surgery, but it was like, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.360 whatever they're doing there, they're gonna they're gonna, you know, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.200 make a change here. 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How you guys 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.080 doing doing good? Doing good? I will start off the 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.760 segment today and I have a little different question for you. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.800 I was looking at this Pittsburgh team and looking at 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.639 some of their rankings. Their rush offense right now is 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.040 ranked sixteenth in the league. Their pass offense is ranked 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.840 twenty fourth. There's a bit of a shock to me 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.320 because it looks like if you watch them like they 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.639 look like a well oiled machine on offense. But here's 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.440 the kicker. Their ranked fifth in points scored. How much 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.040 of the effectness of their offense is dictated by the 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.400 fact that their defense gives them turnovers in a short 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.680 field because they are right now ranked second in turnovers 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:29.520 that their defense forces. It is all about the defense, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.800 like the Pittsburgh steal is a back to their identity 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.320 because when the Pittsburgh Stealers traditionally have been good, it's 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.400 about their defense carrying the way and their stars are 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.160 on defense. Their defense sets the table, they create turnovers, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.199 they create short fields, and what they've been able to 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.440 do offensively is they've been able to cash in. Ben 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.000 Roethlisberger is playing well, but let's make no mistake about it, 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.600 He's not the same Ben Roethlisberger that we saw when 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.440 it was the Killer Bees with Levan Bell and Anthony Brown. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.119 It is a lot of dinkin dunk, quick rhythm, ball 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.000 is out and then his playmakers are doing it. In fact, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.719 I found a stat he is getting the ball out 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.520 quicker than anybody in the National Football League. From snap 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.520 to throw is two point two nine seconds. No one 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.440 else is close to that. And what you're getting they 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.639 have these athletes on the perimeter, Chase Claypool, Juju Smith, Schuster, 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.760 Deontay Johnson, James washing Are Ibron. It's just catching run, 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.720