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Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome to this week's episode of the PSD podcast.

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Speaker 1: You eban A and, like I always say, I'm super

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Speaker 1: And please keep in mind that all of my guests

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Speaker 1: are anonymous. So let's begin. So, I'm really excited about

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Speaker 1: this episode because I feel like right now we live

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Speaker 1: in a world, in a world where, um, everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to be a boss, everybody wants to be entrepreneur, and

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of times we forget about

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Speaker 1: those who actually want to pursue a career and we

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Speaker 1: never feel they want to go in and who actually

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Speaker 1: love having a nine to five, which is nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that. So for this week's episode, I'm excited because

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Speaker 1: I'm partnering up with my friend and she's like us,

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Speaker 1: she loves her career or she has like a definite

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of times we need to share

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Speaker 1: light on them where to go and how to get

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Speaker 1: to a certain level when it comes to our careers,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think that we have enough dialogue when

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Speaker 1: it comes so dudes and DALs and resumes and what

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Speaker 1: to expect negotiating and all this stuff like that. So

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about your career progression

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Speaker 1: from standing from the bottom and working West Shore. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll start by saying that I have been

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Speaker 1: in the retail industry my whole life, um, and starting off,

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Speaker 1: my first job was actually our Apostle, which I don't

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Speaker 1: You're not quite the cool kids in high school, but definitely,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to get a little taste of it, UM.

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Speaker 1: And my next step up from there was been in

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Speaker 1: a republic, and then from there I actually got the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to go into the luxury world of retail, which

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Speaker 1: is UM obviously quite a bit uh different and definitely

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Speaker 1: within the retail industry there is such a variance between companies, UM,

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Speaker 1: as well. So UM, you know my experience, I've always

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Speaker 1: been an extremely hard worker. UM. And I think that

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Speaker 1: I've taken every job I've ever had really seriously, even

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Speaker 1: that you know that I just view it, you know,

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Speaker 1: that it takes. UM. And I don't know if someone

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Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think that's just millennials. UM. I

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Speaker 1: So I think millennials get a bad rap in that way.

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Speaker 1: not every company has room for upward mobility. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: have to develop experience with different companies, um, until you

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Speaker 1: a lot of money in the long run. Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: is the last thing um, with my last job. But

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Speaker 1: we all talk about that because I have a question.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for that. Um, do you think

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Speaker 1: because I'm very big on education, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: in a world that we live in now, education is

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Speaker 1: not so much as value as experiences. Yeah that's true. UM,

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Speaker 1: yeah right. And you know, this is what kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to pretty much just make themselves look

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Speaker 1: to back that up. And because I was so indecisive

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Speaker 1: And honestly, you know now that it's been probably like

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Speaker 1: regardless of the companies asking for it, you know in

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Speaker 1: and I probably have on my resume at the bottom

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Speaker 1: my education, which is a high school diploma. UM. I think,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about people ling and the resume

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Speaker 1: when its education? You should not Usually they do check, yes,

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Speaker 1: you do check. UM. You know, there's okay it And

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Speaker 1: we'll get into this in a little bit. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: with your questions there are things that nothing you should

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Speaker 1: need to fluff just to protect yourself. But they're when

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Speaker 1: it runny. But when it comes to lining, No, you

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Speaker 1: should not put something like that on paper because they

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Speaker 1: do check. And there have been people that have been

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Speaker 1: they lied on their resume and they got fired on

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Speaker 1: the spot. Um well, doing them so good. You never

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Speaker 1: y'all say, no, you really should not. I mean and

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Speaker 1: I you shouldn't lie. You should not blatantly lie about

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Speaker 1: your store. If you are at the bottom of the barrel. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you lie about that, you don't deserve to be hired.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I've but I've known people that have

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Speaker 1: If you blatantly lie. They're gonna know once you start

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Speaker 1: the job. So you might get in, but you're never gonna,

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Speaker 1: those I don't think we touch on your titler. So

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Speaker 1: important factors when it comes to a candidate looking for

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Speaker 1: get to the interview part. Let's talk about resumes. What

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Speaker 1: are some dudes and dons or some things that you

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Speaker 1: the things you have to understand is pretty much, you know,

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Speaker 1: a pitch, right, It's supposed to be something that first

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Speaker 1: look at and it tells a story of your career

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Speaker 1: up to that point. I think that people A mistake

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Speaker 1: of the brand that uh handled you know transactions? Transaction

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Speaker 1: what okay? So you rang people up and you fold

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Speaker 1: if you think like me, if I see a resume

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Speaker 1: like that, that list means and it also means it

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Speaker 1: also means that you went on Google and you can

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Speaker 1: put something together yourself and you know basic you know,

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Speaker 1: sustinct English. Um. So I think there's that as far

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Speaker 1: as content, um visually, don't get too playful with it. Um.

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Speaker 1: I've seen people that put like a head shot on

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Speaker 1: their resume and I'm sorry, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what industry that's okay for, but I definitely know that

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Speaker 1: like for retail or you know, like a basic desk job.

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Speaker 1: Why do they need to know what you look like?

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Speaker 1: If you know what? I think that people try to

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Speaker 1: you can get creative because we're the job I met

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Speaker 1: then on the other hand, it's like you really like

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00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: some people are good at like just lying and you know,

429
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: you there is a bit of apprehension when you're interviewing

430
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: someone trying to figure out can you actually handle this

431
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: or do you just present really well? UM. So if

432
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: you can bring in evidence to show that you, you know,

433
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: are good at your job, then by all means that's

434
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: yeah a great idea. UM, what are some questions that

435
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: candidate should ask doing an interview? Because I know, at

436
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: the interviews interview you can be like, okay, you have

437
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: any questions, and I can be like, you should always

438
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: ask questions, um, because it shows that you're genuinely trying

439
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: to envision yourself there. It shows that you are actually

440
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: curious about the company and the job. UM. By saying

441
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, no, I don't have any questions, it's like okay,

442
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: well thanks, see you later, and it kind of just yeah, yeah,

443
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: you should definitely ask questions at the end of an

444
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: interview because you know, it's it's a two way street.

445
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: You need to also figure out is this going to

446
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: be a good fit for me? Um, And the only

447
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: way you can do that is by you know, asking

448
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: them you know, kind of the particulars of the job.

449
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: And UM, I would say, you know, one question that

450
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: I like to ask, um if this is something where

451
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of uncommon, but if the interview

452
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: went really well. I like to ask, is there anything

453
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: about my you know, skills or you know, gives you

454
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: cause for concern or like pretty much just kind of

455
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: trying to have a dialogue about Okay, so what do

456
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: you think about me as a candidate? And um, what

457
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I like about it is that it does kind of

458
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, put them on the spot to then engauge

459
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: like how they feel about you, like they can answer

460
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I find that I get pretty honest

461
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: answers about, um, you know what they think about me,

462
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: not only asked this question. Yeah, there's a better way

463
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to word it. I don't remember how word at one time,

464
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: but um uh, not so much concern, but like anything

465
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: that you would have liked to see or something on

466
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: my resume that you don't see. And then that kind

467
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: of gives you the chance to jump in there and

468
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: you know talk about maybe they say, oh, well, you

469
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: know it does you do look a little green in

470
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: this area, like a little inexperience with this. It gives

471
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: you a chance to like kind of jump in there

472
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: and say, well, I do you know actually have experience

473
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: with you know this other thing that would help out.

474
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought it up, so I know

475
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: one thing that made you talk about is negotiating about salary.

476
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: Um how important, extremely important. You should always do it.

477
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 1: And I you know, I'm I'm not an expert negotiator.

478
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not, um, I don't have a lot of experience negotiating,

479
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: but I'm very well researched because i had an experience

480
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: with my last job where this was about six years ago. Um,

481
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: this is where I was going to interview with the

482
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: luxury watch company, which was a real step up at

483
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: the time, and I made a pretty like basic mistake

484
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: due to age and inexperience, which was that I was

485
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: honest about what I made to the penny did not

486
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: inflate that at all. And of course there's a and

487
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: this is where you like. Of course, there is a

488
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: really big variant between where I was coming from and

489
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: this new Fifth Avenue job. So for that reason, I

490
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: started out a full six dollars lower than people that

491
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: I was working right alongside. Yeah, only because my manager,

492
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, thankfully really saw a lot of potential and

493
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: really liked me. Um that she gave me just phenomenal raises,

494
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: and so I was able to catch up after about

495
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: two and a half years. But that is still money

496
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: that I left on the table because I again made

497
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: that misstep. So this next time that I was, you know,

498
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: looking to leave, UM, I told myself, I'm going to

499
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: negotiate no matter what, and they are going to move

500
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: that number. I don't care even if the first offer

501
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: that they give me is what I was looking for.

502
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: I am getting something more because it wasn't just about

503
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the number was. It was about what

504
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: that would mean for my self esteem. And I think

505
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: this is one thing you have to keep in mind,

506
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: especially as a woman. UM. You know that we we

507
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: have all these great qualities UM as far as like humility,

508
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: We're very workable, we want to be liked, we don't

509
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: want to step on anyone's turn Yeah. Some of those

510
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: qualities though, really shoot you in the foot when it

511
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: comes time to sheiate because you don't want to step

512
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: on anyone's toes and you think that you know, if

513
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: you do ask for more, there's fear about you know,

514
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: coming across UM, like you know, who does she think

515
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: she is? Or um, you know you're worried about maybe

516
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: the job offer being rescinded. That's not going to happen.

517
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: It's not they want you, they made you the job offer.

518
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: The worst they can say is no. So I think

519
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: first and foremost, if you're going to go in and negotiate,

520
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: you need to get rid of that attitude. UM. You

521
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: need to also keep in mind that companies expect you

522
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: to negotiate these days. Um, if you don't negotiate, you

523
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: actually end up looking a bit naives. Uh, and you're

524
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, setting the stage for them to

525
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: perhaps take advantage of you in other ways later on

526
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: when you do get the joint. So I would say that, uh,

527
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: as far as negotiating goes, you need to make an

528
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: effort every single time, because you know, and every every

529
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: time you try is a win. Even if you don't

530
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: maybe get the end number that you wanted. UM, you know,

531
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: the fact that you tried and you're just edging yourself

532
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit closer is a win. Do you think that, um,

533
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: hiring man, just look at the fact. Let's say if

534
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: I was with a company for a year and then

535
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I moved to another company because I was going to

536
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: have more money. Is that is that an issue? Not

537
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: necessarily if your entire career has been jumping after a

538
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: year then yes, that's a red flag. Um. That is

539
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: definitely something that I've seen on people's resumes and have

540
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: been like, Okay, what's going on here? Um, you need

541
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: to I think if you can, if you can put

542
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: in time with us, I would say at least like

543
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: two years um or more like I I put in

544
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: I think a year with my first job, two and

545
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: a half with my second, and then five with the

546
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: last one that I had, UM, which is a pretty

547
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: good stretch, especially for retail. So not everyone can do

548
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, five years obviously, but I think if you

549
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: can't stick it out for two years, that looks good

550
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: and that looks pretty stable. Yeah, right, But why do

551
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: you think that can this can't just be honest and

552
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: be like especially not but just be like like I

553
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: just wanted more money and I deserve this much because

554
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I bring this much to the table. You know, I

555
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: really wish that we could be more transparent. It would

556
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: make things a lot easier. But because because it's a game,

557
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: it's a game, and you know, everyone is presenting like

558
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: a version of you know, a heightened version of themselves. Um,

559
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, no one's going in there. Well you shouldn't

560
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: be going in there and being like, hey, what's going on?

561
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: What's up? Ya? Um, you know it should be it

562
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: is in a certain way, like very like prim and proper,

563
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: and you know you're like kind of you know, on

564
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: your best behavior. Um. But you know what, at the

565
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, that does kind of show that

566
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: you are diplomatic. I think is probably why you can't

567
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: keep blunt, because if you can be diplomatic with them

568
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: and come up with a really polished answer, UM, that

569
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: shows that you know the same the same way you

570
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: are with them is how you're gonna be with clients.

571
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Let's say, you know you're going to be able to

572
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of uh, you navigate around difficult clients, and you

573
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: know you're going to be able to kind of represent

574
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: the company as opposed to just coming in there. It's

575
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: just your personality and that's all you have to give. Yeah,

576
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: what is an advice you would give to someone who

577
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: wants to partake in a certain career path with no experience? Well,

578
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: it's because I am supposed to start something if nobody right,

579
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: are you? Um? Experience is definitely important. Um, but there

580
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: are people that will give you a shot. Uh, And

581
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I think I think that just comes down to, um,

582
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, your attitude, how you present any interview. UM,

583
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, showing that you have an eagerness, showing that

584
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: you have the right energy, showing that you're willing to learn. Uh,

585
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: you do have to kind of start a little bit

586
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: lower and then work your way up. UM. So for example,

587
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: you know that might look like you're an intern for

588
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: a time and then that transitions into a paid job. UM.

589
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: It's it is difficult, but everyone's got to start somewhere,

590
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: so you know, obviously there are people out there doing it. UM.

591
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the career path that you want,

592
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: Like for myself, finding a really good position now. But

593
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, starting whatever you can get.

594
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: I started out folding clothes and I put in time.

595
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: UM that's the other thing. Like your career doesn't happen overnight.

596
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: You have to be willing to put in the time.

597
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Would you hire somebody they wants to work for you,

598
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: but they'll have no actual experience because UM, I didn't

599
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: come from luxury. And you know, someone gave me a

600
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: shot because I presented really well, and um, you know

601
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: it was in the interview that they could see I

602
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: had all of the raw materials. So I think that yeah, there,

603
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I definitely would give somebody's shot because it's not You've

604
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: got to start somewhere, and I think people know that,

605
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: especially if you're a little bit younger, they're going to

606
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: be obviously more forgiving. Um. But you know, if someone

607
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: has all of I can see if someone has all

608
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: of the ingredients that are needed to succeed, it all

609
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: comes down to, I think their attitude. They have to

610
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: be workable. You've got to present as humble and you've

611
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: got to show that you are again have an eagerness

612
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: for the work. And that's when not least, what is

613
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: some advice you would give to our listeners that look

614
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: for well, I would it's there. It is. It's hard

615
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: out there, but you know what, it's a numbers game. Um.

616
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Just I would say, open yourself up to as many

617
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: opportunities as possible, send out as many resumes as possible.

618
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Again Taylor, your resumes um to each position, and also

619
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: network with people, um, you know, and then network across

620
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times people want to network with the execs,

621
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: but it's actually the assistance. Yeah, and you know, just

622
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: have a dialogue also with people that you work alongside

623
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: and kind of their experiences. You know, I've learned so

624
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: much about like negotiating and um you know what companies

625
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: pay and uh, you know what you should expect in

626
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the interview process, just from having conversations with my current colleagues.

627
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Um so I think, you know, people are very tight

628
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: lipped these days, especially about like know how much money

629
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: they make or like sharing their experiences. At the end

630
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: of the day, that's only hindering us. I think, especially

631
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: as women, we should you know, we should have like

632
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: our each other, um, you know, help each other get

633
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: this money. And speaking of money, don't forget to laugh. Yes, definitely,

634
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: pat So that's actually good, you know. Now let me

635
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: get it that really quick though, UM be realistic, do not. Yeah, Now,

636
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: if you make fifth k, you you do need to

637
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: pat it, I would say, by like, I know you

638
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: that is Justeric. Really I did like ten to fifteen,

639
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: but not twenty. Oh. I feel like because you gotta

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. You guys said, you have your low

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Speaker 1: number that you're making, right, and then you have the

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Speaker 1: number that you really that you are set, and then

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Speaker 1: you have numb that you one. So I know, if

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Speaker 1: I can't get the high number I definitely don't put

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Speaker 1: in between. But we're talking about yeah, but we're talking

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Speaker 1: about when they're asking you how much you currently make, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, they're not supposed to ask any more

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Speaker 1: in New York. It's actually legal on the interview process

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Speaker 1: for them to ask you that. Um, but they still

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Speaker 1: comes up. I think in terms of negotiating, yes, you

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Speaker 1: should ask way higher than your n number. Oh I

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Speaker 1: love about how much that makes. Yeah, yea, how much

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Speaker 1: you make. But I wouldn't go like twenty k above.

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Speaker 1: It was like t K people, all right, no, because

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Speaker 1: you know what it is, because I feel like these companies,

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Speaker 1: like I'm a hard worker, and I know everybody think

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Speaker 1: they are hardworking, but like, you know, you really work

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Speaker 1: hard and a lot of times, especially when you work

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Speaker 1: in retails. I work in retail too, you know, you

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Speaker 1: really put a lot of hours in. So it's like

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Speaker 1: and then sometimes you do more than one job and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work. So I feel like people

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Speaker 1: we always a little you with the first offer and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it could be with the the best companies out

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Speaker 1: there in the world. Yeah, yeah, And you know the

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Speaker 1: thing about negotiating is like that is your one shot

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Speaker 1: to really bump yourself up into that next pay bracket

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Speaker 1: because you are not going to see that money once

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Speaker 1: you get the job. And in the raises it's they

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Speaker 1: people give bullshit races these days. Yeah, and like, and

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Speaker 1: never tie yourself to the promise of a bonus. Like

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Speaker 1: if a company says, oh, there's okay, great, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything because bonuses are very subjective. It's like all

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Speaker 1: based on performances bullshit. So you know, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to negotiating, if they come at you with the first offer,

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Speaker 1: let's say, if it's even like within five thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: of what you want, you don't say, well, hey, I

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Speaker 1: only want five thousand dollars more. You gotta pad that

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Speaker 1: by like ten to fifteen and then they'll meet you

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Speaker 1: in the middle because you have think about health insurance.

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Speaker 1: You gotta think about in New York, so you think

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Speaker 1: about this. There are other things that you can negotiate

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Speaker 1: for as well if they can't meet you on salary,

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Speaker 1: because you know, hey, some companies have vacation. Get more

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Speaker 1: vacation for yourself. I think you know, the number one

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Speaker 1: thing to keep in mind when you're out there, and

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Speaker 1: especially the negotiating process is you cannot afford to leave

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Speaker 1: money on the table because life is long. You do

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Speaker 1: not know where you will be ten to twenty years

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Speaker 1: from now, what kind of you know, financial burdens you

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Speaker 1: have upon you. So you really need to do everything

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Speaker 1: you can for yourself now and get that extra couple

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Speaker 1: of thousand dollars a year or you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of bucks an hour, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: these companies can afford it, you cannot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well I think that was the first of all I think.

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Speaker 1: But now that that thing is a point because like

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Speaker 1: I said, I feel like right now we live in

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Speaker 1: the world, everybody wants to be an entrepreneur, everybody want

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Speaker 1: to be on business now. But there's nothing there's absolutely

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with having the nine O five and have

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Speaker 1: enough career. So but I think that in the midst

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Speaker 1: of you having a career, like don't know, and they

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Speaker 1: will they will burn you out. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: that we need this year, you know, just sure some

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Speaker 1: look gives some little love to the people who do

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Speaker 1: have a nine five careers because I mean people are

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Speaker 1: doctors and lawyers and those type of people make the

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Speaker 1: world go around. So so let no, guys. You have

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Speaker 1: about hire you, you have any advice comments, please email

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Speaker 1: And until next time, guys. Later,