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Speaker 2: First of all, for anyone who's not aware or doesn't

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Speaker 1: But there's been large studies done using the Yale Food

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Speaker 1: Addiction Scale, which is a scientifically validated metric that measures

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Speaker 1: food addiction, and it's primarily sugar and starch. And fourteen

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Speaker 1: percent of people in this country are alcoholics, but fourteen

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Speaker 1: percent are also addicted to food, and fourteen percent of kits,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot of kids. So it's biologically addictive

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not going to hurt you if

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Speaker 1: you're healthy, if you're fit, you can have some. It's

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Speaker 1: it's just the volume that we have in this culture.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that our biology doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: to do with. Historically, we were one hunter gathers. We

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Speaker 1: had twenty two teaspoons a year. Now the average percess

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Speaker 1: twenty two teaspoons a day.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that is mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you had two teaspoons a year, so.

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Speaker 1: You were a hunter gatherer, you'd like, get some honey.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I found honey, you know, and you'd

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Speaker 1: eat it. But it was hard to get.

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Speaker 2: Sugar, and you were more active than to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you're running yeah all the time, you're.

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Speaker 2: Looking for that job honey. Yeah, no, jaw, Sorry, it

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Speaker 2: was actually I was.

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Speaker 1: I was in the Hadza tribe, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the last time gathered tribes in Africa, and they eat

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Speaker 1: a lot of honey. They eat like twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: calorie of honey. But they're super fit healthy because they're

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Speaker 1: just like eating tons of fiber. So they basically all

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Speaker 1: the roots in the tubers have massive amounts of fiber.

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Speaker 1: Americans eat about eight grams of fiber a day. We

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Speaker 1: were historically as hunter gatherers, having one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: grams a day, and fiber basically is like a sponge.

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Speaker 1: So for example, if you take your coca cola and

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Speaker 1: have a very different effect on your blood sugar. It's

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Speaker 1: going to turn to gel first of all, if you

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Speaker 1: So it's just the whole context of our diet has

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Speaker 1: the same. And what that does is that is that

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Speaker 1: causes cancer, it causes diabetes, causes heart attacks, it causes

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Speaker 1: aging itself. And when you look around in America, ninety

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Speaker 1: three percent of us, well ninety three point two to

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Speaker 1: eight percent of us don't, which is frightening, frightening, And

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Speaker 1: it's not how humans evolved. We didn't evolve like that. People,

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Speaker 1: they're not like the Pema Indians one hundred years ago

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Speaker 1: So so, yeah, if you put your genes in the

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Speaker 2: As humans, we don't know these things. We were never

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, imagine imagine driving your car. You don't

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Speaker 2: not just because I'm getting older though, it's becoming more prevalent.

645
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Speaker 1: It is, I mean the hockey stick of chronic diseases

646
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: is going like this. It's really striking. I mean things

647
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: that were rare one hundred and fifty years ago, you know,

648
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: turn the or one hundred and twenty years going turn

649
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: of the nineteen hundreds. If you had a heart attack

650
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: in a hospital, it would be like seeing this rare

651
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: case of malaria in like Manhattan, you know, like all

652
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: the doctors would rush around to see this unusual case. Wow,

653
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: diabetes wasn't even the thing, type two diabetes. If you

654
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: look at the records of Mass General and then the

655
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: eighteen fifties, it wasn't even a diagnosis. You know, people

656
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't have it. So why are we seeing this explosion?

657
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: And autommune disease. They're over one hundred different automun diseases,

658
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, everything from hashimotis thyroiditis, which is affecting one

659
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: in five women that's an automne thire condition, one in

660
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: ten men, lupis, rheumaturistritis, MS colitis, Crone's disease. There are

661
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: over one hundred different automune diseases and people are suffering

662
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: from these things and the drugs that we use are

663
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: incredibly toxic. They basically suppressed your immune system. They have

664
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: all these side effects, and they're extremely expensive, and they

665
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily always work that well. And the question then

666
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: is why are we doing this? I mean, this is

667
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: what functional medicine is about, is what function that's created

668
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: on the basis of this idea of why not what

669
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: disease you have? And what drug do I get? But why?

670
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: And the reason why we're seeing such an explosion about

671
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: immune disease is a combination of different factors. One, Our

672
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: diet has changed dramatically over the last fifty to seventy

673
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: years because of industrialization of agriculture, the use of pesticides, herbicides,

674
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: the increasing rates of c section means you don't colonize

675
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: your gut and sixty percent of your immune systems in

676
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: your gut, and a lot of aout immune disease is

677
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: caused by trouble with the gut, the increasing it's a

678
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: formula feeding, you know, not breast milk, which protects the

679
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: baby's immune system, is necessary for the development of them.

680
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty five percent of the calories in breast

681
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: milk is not digestible by the baby. It's to feed

682
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: the microbiome, which is amazing. Yeah, it's crazy. And when

683
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: you eat have formula, you don't have that in there,

684
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: and so the microbombs are disturbed and then you get

685
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: leaky gut. We use lots of antibiotics and children, we

686
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: have accelerated vaccine schedules. Vaccines, I believe in. I think

687
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: they're important. But like when I was a kid and

688
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: when my kids were kids, was that long ago, there

689
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: was you know, a limited set of vaccines and now

690
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: it's free for all.

691
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: And the vaccino that's how you take fifteen or sixteen.

692
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like seventy two different jabs of shots, and

693
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: so that that affects your immune system. And they do

694
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: they do things that affect your immune system by putting

695
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: in irritants like aluminum, and then the exposure to environmental chemicals.

696
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: It's exploded metals, pesticide. The average newborn baby today a

697
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: j has two hundred and eighty seven toxins in their

698
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: umbilical cord blood before they take their first breath, including

699
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: stuff that's been banned for years like DDT and dioxin, PCBs, dalades,

700
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: flame retardants, lead, mercury, pesticides, herbicides, I mean, you name it,

701
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: it's in there. And so all that has an impact,

702
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: and they're called otogens. There's a whole science around this

703
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: that these are environmental toxins that cause autommunity. And I've

704
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: seen many patients with autommune diseases that we cured by

705
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: getting rid of their heavy metals or detoxifying their bodies.

706
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: And so these toxins are a huge factor. And then

707
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: you've got all the modern stresses. You know, we low's sleep,

708
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, we're under too much chronic stress, you know,

709
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: light pollution, who knows what EMF. I don't even know

710
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: if that's the thing, but I'm not saying it is.

711
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying it is all this stuff that we never

712
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: had to deal with, and we're just seeing our immune

713
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: system become sodisregulated. And the ultra processed food revolution has

714
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: been another huge factor because in ultra processed food there's

715
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: all these emulsifiers. Mulcifiers are basically the things that make

716
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: stuff creamy. And you know, like if you ever got

717
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: some of the like nut milks, and they separate out

718
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: when you put in your coffee, it's because they don't

719
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: use the multifiers right, and must fires basically make things creamy,

720
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: and they're using almost all ulstra processed food and they

721
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: damage the gut lining and they cause a what we

722
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: call a leaky gut where the cells come apart and

723
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: then food and bacteria leak in between your cells. And

724
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: then right underneath your cell lining, which is just one

725
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: cell thick, is most of your immune system. And think

726
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: about why why is most of your immune sism in

727
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: your gut? Well, it's because where you're exposed to most

728
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: of the foreign stuff. Every day, you're putting pounds of

729
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: foreign food in there, and you're putting all the bacteria

730
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: from your microbiome. There's three pounds of bacteria in there

731
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: that is, you know, basically a sewer, you know, and

732
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: it's like one you're one cell away from a sewer.

733
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: And so when that breaks down, your immune system to go,

734
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: this isn't me what's going on, and it starts attacking

735
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: things and then it creates just a lot of mistake

736
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: and identity things we call molecular mimicry, where it thinks

737
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: it's attacking a bacteria or food, but then it'll attack

738
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: your joints or your eyes, or your your your nerves

739
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: and get MS and your thyroid gland. So basically we're

740
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: seeing this explosion and and the beautiful thing is by

741
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: understanding the root causes that you can actually reverse it.

742
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: I had an automune disease. I actually had mold in

743
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: my house. I've gotten everything known to man. I got

744
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: lined to these mold and I had I lived an

745
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: old barn. I got really bad mold poisoning. And then

746
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: on top of that, I had a root canal, had

747
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: it removed, had an antibiotic. The antibodic called something called

748
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: seed diff, which is a bacteria that causes really bad

749
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: gut infections that turned into all sort of colitis. My

750
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: whole intestinal track was just one big red mess and

751
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: I had to heal it. And so you know, there

752
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: is a methodology for creating health. And that's that's that's

753
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: that's what I want people to know. Why function hell.

754
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: It's so important because it teaches you how to turn

755
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: on your own innate healing system. You've got a healing regenda,

756
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: repair and renewal system. That's why I could come back

757
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: from the dead, because I knew how to turn on,

758
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I want everybody to know.

759
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: And that's really why I do what I do, Why

760
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: have the podcast, why I write books, why travel? I

761
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: speaking like you, it's the same the same movie, different

762
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: different story.

763
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: And you know, what are the signs for someone who's

764
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: listening of a weak immune system and a strong immune system? Yeah,

765
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: how do they tell?

766
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the inflammation immune system are little

767
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: bit different because you're you know, you're you're you can

768
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: be inflamed, but have a weaker immune system. So frequent infections,

769
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: frequent colds, feeling run down. I mean, there are signs

770
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: that that your immune system's not working, and you get

771
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, less resilient to stress, you get sick more easily,

772
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: and so there's those are signs that there's problems. And

773
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: and one of the things we find through functional health

774
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: is that so many people have nutritional deficiencies and nutrients

775
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: like zinc and vitamin D and iron's big role in

776
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: your immune function.

777
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: And it's actually even supplements is such a bad word

778
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: for supplements because it sounds like something that you know,

779
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: you're just supplementing. But it's like, yeah, exactly, that's what

780
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean.

781
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Right.

782
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: The word supplement in and of itself feels like it's

783
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: an add on, rather than like this is necessary right right,

784
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 2: Like I think we're still living in this time where

785
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: supplements haven't become the norm. People see it as some

786
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: health hack tip as opposed to know this is just

787
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: what your body needs is nutrients.

788
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: My joke is, I don't think anybody needs supplements, but

789
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: only under certain conditions. They have to hunt and gather

790
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: their own wild food. They have to drink pure clean water,

791
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: be exposed to no environmental toxins, have no chronic stress,

792
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: sleep nine hours a night, go to bed with the sun,

793
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: wake up with the time. Then then if you do

794
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: all that, you might not need to.

795
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm the last six the first three, and.

796
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: You haven't gone hunting today. Yeah, And so our soils

797
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: that become damaged because of the soil right in the

798
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: way your plants get nutrients is because of the organic

799
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: matter in the soil. It has a symbiotic relationship with

800
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: the microbes in the soil and with the plant roots

801
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: that then allows it to extract the nutrients. But if

802
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: you basically grow plants in dirt, not soil, where there's

803
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: no nutrients or they're not accessible because the body that

804
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: the plants can't get them because they don't have the

805
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: right organic matter to create the symbotic relationship. Your broccoli

806
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: today is fifty percent less nutrients than it did fifty

807
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: years ago. Plus you know, we do a lot of

808
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: things to cause more stress for our bodies. We need

809
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: more nutrients, and like magnesium is a very big nutritional

810
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: deficiency because when you're stressed, you pee out magnesium, and

811
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: then we don't eat a lot of magnesium rich foods

812
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: like nuts and seeds and beans and leafy greens. Right,

813
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: It's not a big part of American's diet. So a

814
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: lot of people are low in magnesium and low vitamin D.

815
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: We see eighty percent of people being insufficient or deficient

816
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: in vitamin D, which is incredibly important for immune function.

817
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: And I mean COVID. If your vitamin D was low,

818
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: you were seventy five percent more likely to end up

819
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: in the ICU and die, whereas if your vitamin D

820
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: was over fifty this big Israeli study there were no deaths.

821
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: So that's that powerful there. There. There are things that

822
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: regulate almost every biochemical reaction in your body. And you've

823
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: got thirty seven billion trillion chemical reactions every second happening

824
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: every one of those, and that's a big number on

825
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: you know, nominy zeros is. I think it's twenty seven

826
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: zeros And every single one of those reactions requires a

827
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: nutrient to work as a cofractor for the enzymatic reaction,

828
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: and most of us are deficient in fact with function health.

829
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: We do deep nutritional testing Omega three's vitamin D, all

830
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: the B vitamins, iron and so forth, and we find

831
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Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of our members, who you think would

832
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: be forward thinking about their health, are deficient in nutrients,

833
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: not at the level that I would think would be optimal,

834
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: but at the level that prevents a deficiency disease, so like,

835
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: not the ideal amount, but the bare minimums you don't

836
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: get like rickets or scurvy or you know, like and

837
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: that's that's sixty seven persents. If you've expanded the criteria

838
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: to be what's optimal, it would probably be even more.

839
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's scary to think about it, but it's

840
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: so important to start being aware right now. Can someone

841
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: know that they have some symptoms of an autoimmune disease,

842
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Like is it possible.

843
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, there's pre autommune disease, like there's pre diabetes or

844
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: pre hypertension. And I don't like those terms because they

845
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: imply that it's you haven't gotten into trouble yet, but

846
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: you are in trouble. There is something bad happening, and

847
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: so you have to actually look at the blood work

848
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: to help you identify if you're heading in the wrong direction,

849
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: and you can see, but then you could you could

850
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: be somebody who's suffering from low grade symptoms. You might

851
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: not know it like fire, it is really common. You

852
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: might be a little tired, you might be a little constipated.

853
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: You might a little dry skin, Your nails might crack

854
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. You might be losing out of thirugh

855
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: of your eyebrow. You might feel little depressed. You might

856
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: have lower sex drive, and the things people don't really

857
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of weight. People don't think of

858
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: these as a disease, but when you add them all together,

859
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: it's an auto immune thyroid issue, right, and even gut issues.

860
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, irritable bewel. A lot of people have digestive issues,

861
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: and it's a really continuum from irroo beillel to automune

862
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: bowel disease, which is where you get colitis or Crow's disease,

863
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: and so it's a continue A lot of people have

864
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: this low grade inflammatory stuff going on in their bodies,

865
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: and it's really it's unfortunate because we know how to

866
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: fix it. And this is really what we do in

867
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: functional medicine. Is why I think testing and understanding what's

868
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: going with your body before you get in trouble. It's like,

869
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, the first symptom of a heart attack, you

870
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: know what it is for most people, For fifty percent

871
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: of people with heart disease, the first symptom is sudden

872
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: death updeate of heart attack. Like this guy was telling

873
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: you about. He was jogging and he kept having chest

874
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: pain and he was ignoring it, and then he finally

875
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: decided to go check it out because his girlfriend made

876
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: him go, and turned out he had a nine percent

877
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: blockage and he wouldn't know anym he could have just

878
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: dropped out of a heart attack like that.

879
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Before we dive into the next moment, let's hear from

880
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: our sponsors. Thanks for taking a moment for that. Now

881
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: back to the discussion. What are the shifts we should

882
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: be making right now? If someone's listening, they're going to

883
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: go get the test if they can. If they can't,

884
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: because you know, for whatever reason, they don't live in

885
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: the States because we're not available internationally. No, not yet,

886
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: get no, yeah, yeah, I get a lot of that

887
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: in my comments. Actually, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of

888
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: people I know in Uken, Europe who really want it

889
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: and Australia and other places. But you've got your results,

890
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: you know what's going on. Where would you encourage people

891
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: to begin if they they don't have anything serious right now,

892
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: but they want to make sure they get this.

893
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm not trying to say anything here,

894
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: but I think doing a short term reset is powerful.

895
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: The way I think about it is, how how do

896
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: you turn your body back to its original factory settings.

897
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: A baby comes out, it's generally perfect, it's beautiful, it's healthy,

898
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: everything works right, And then think breakdown. But imagine it

899
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: like if your computer is you know, not working or

900
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: it's on the fritz, and like my WhatsApp wasn't working

901
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: today and I just had to reboot it right or

902
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: reboot my computer. How do you do that with your body?

903
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: And that's really what this dietary change that I call

904
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: the ten day detox side is about. It's about really

905
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: putting your body back to its original factory settings. For

906
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: most people, it will create a dramatic shift. If you

907
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: don't get better from it, it's usually because there's something

908
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: more serious, like you have lime disease, you have mold

909
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: exposure that's causing toxicity, you have maybe environmental toxins or

910
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: lime disease, or something serious that needs another treatment. But

911
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: for most people, just a simple ten day approach to

912
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: resetting your system by getting into sleep, by cutting out

913
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: the bad stuff, by taking walks, by doing a little

914
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: breathing exercises, and radically changing your diet.

915
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you could do that at home. This

916
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: isn't you don't you know?

917
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: And it's basically afford to.

918
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: Go on a retreat or do you.

919
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: Get percent Most of people do it at all. And

920
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: it's so it doesn't really cost you any extra, and

921
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: maybe it'll cost you less because you're not buying all

922
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: these extra grab and so days. And if you try it,

923
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: it's like the body just has this desire to be healthy,

924
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: and illness is just your body's best attempt to deal

925
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: with a really shitty set of circumstances. Change of circumstances

926
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: meaning what you're exposed to, your diet, lifestyle, and then

927
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: you'll change, you know, because ninety three percent, it's been determined,

928
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: of our health issues are not genetic. They're from our

929
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: collective environment. What we call the exposed home, not our genome.

930
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Or exposed home is what it sounds like. It's everything

931
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: that we're exposed to. It's what we eat, it's movement,

932
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: it's sleep, it's stress, it's our gut microbio it's environmental toxins.

933
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: It's our thoughts. Our thoughts actually transform a biology. Literally,

934
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: it's the biggest pharmacy is between your years, and so

935
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: all those things you have control over, which is what's

936
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: so exciting to me. It's about being empowered to actually

937
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: make those change. And people just suffer so badly. I mean,

938
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: I think I told you maybe. Then I did a

939
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: program with a faith based wellness program with Rick Warren

940
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: at this church where we got a quarter million pounds

941
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: loss out for fifteen thousand people in a year by

942
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: doing a faith based wellness program, and the amount of

943
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: people that had radical changes in their health was just

944
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: so remarkable. This one woman had been in and out

945
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: of psychiatric hospitals. She'd been on every psychiatric medication you

946
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: could imagine from any deepressants, to anxiety medications, anti psychotic medications.

947
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: She was about to commit suicide. You know. She was

948
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: also overweight, and she did this dietary change. Essentially, I

949
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: did the faith based wellness program included the Tendee detox diet.

950
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm completely cured, Like I don't have

951
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: any depression, I'm off all my medications. I feel good.

952
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: How is that possible? And you know that's the other thing, Jay,

953
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much mental illness. There's so much depression, anxiety,

954
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: my poldicgy. You know, I think more serious things like

955
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: severe OCD or even schizophrenia. These things actually are physiological problems.

956
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Are not always emotional problems. So sometimes they are like

957
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, your bouse dyes are depressed. You know, I

958
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: get it, you know, But a lot of times, and

959
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: for many people, there there's actually a physiological reason. You know,

960
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: we talk about the mind body effect, which how a

961
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: mind effects the body, which is profound, but there's also

962
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the body mind effect. So if you're magnesium deficient, you

963
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: can be anxious, right, if you're vitamin D deficient or

964
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: a Mega three deficient, you can be depressed, or you

965
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: can have add if you don't have enough folid or

966
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: be twelve, you can get depressed. I mean, these are

967
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: things that you can fix. If you have heavy metals,

968
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: which I did, it can cause you to have depression

969
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: and insomnia and anxiety. I mean, I'm treating a little

970
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: girl right now who's got severe OCD and it turned

971
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: out she had a strep infection that turns into this

972
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: autoimmune reaction against your brain that's causing her to have

973
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: OCD behaviors like ticks and weird things that we think

974
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: is psychological. So I think, you know, I often call

975
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: myself the accidental psychiatrist because I was treating people for

976
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: all these physical things and then these psychiatric problems will

977
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: get better. And I wrote a book about it called

978
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: the ultramind Solution, How to fix your broken brain by

979
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: fixing your body first, And you can just get that

980
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: off the table, and then you know, if you have

981
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: other deeper trauma or things. Yeah, I think the revolution

982
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: now in metabolic psychiatry and nutritional psychiatry and then psychedelic

983
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: medicine and psychiatry are I think going to change the

984
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: face of mental health care for the long term.

985
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely. What are some of the mistakes you see people

986
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: making and curing autumnin diseases. What are some of the mistakes?

987
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 2: What are the things we get wrong?

988
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Well, because they don't treat the cause. It is the

989
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: biggest thing, you know. I had a patient when I

990
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: was a Cleveland clinic who was a business coach, who

991
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: was fifty years old, and she had a lot of problems.

992
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: And I jokingly call myself a holistic doctor because I

993
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: take care of people the whole list of problems, you know.

994
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: And she had everything, you know. She had irrable bow,

995
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: she had reflux, she had migraines, she was depressed, she

996
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: had pre diabetes, and she had this horrible autoimmune disease

997
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: called soriatic arthritis, you know, the heartbreak of psoriasis, These

998
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: horrible thick, scaly, red, itchy plaques on your skin, and

999
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: it also can attack your joints. And it was attacking

1000
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: your joints. She was on a drug and she was

1001
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: seen by the top doctors and she was gone a

1002
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: drug that cost fifty thousand dollars and it wasn't really

1003
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: fixing her. And she was seeing the top specialist for

1004
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: neurology for her migraine, psychiatry for depression, gostrology for her.

1005
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: God had achronology for her pre diabetes, a rheumatologist for

1006
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: her arthritis and issues, a dermatology. I was like, she

1007
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: had a doctor for every introver. And I said, gee,

1008
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: you know you're getting all these medications. You're not really better.

1009
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: You're mitigating your symptoms a little bit. Maybe we think

1010
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: about treating the root cause. And so, because she had

1011
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: so many digestive symptoms and she made a loss of antibiotics,

1012
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: she made on lots of stayeroids for her that really

1013
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: messed up. They got too I said, you have reflex,

1014
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: you have bloating after eating. You have all these gut issues.

1015
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: Why don't we treat your gut. So I basically gave

1016
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: her an antibotic to kill off all these bad bugs

1017
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: that were in her gut. And I gave her in

1018
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: any fungal because she had a lot of fungal overgrowth

1019
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: from all the steroids in the antibotics. To kill off

1020
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: the bad bugs, I gave her some probotics. I put

1021
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: her on the ten day ducks tie. Basically got rid

1022
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: of all the inflammatory foods, got her the sugar processed food.

1023
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: She comes back in six weeks and she's like, I'm

1024
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: all better. I mean, what do you mean, Well, I

1025
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: stopped all my medication. Well, I didn't tell you to

1026
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: do that. She's like, no, I just was feeling so good.

1027
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: I stopped everything out of migraines. I'm not depressed. My

1028
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: lost twenty pounds, My skin's cleared, my jointstone hurt, my

1029
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: reflex is gone, my ir overbell is gone. And so

1030
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: if you treat the route, which was her gut in

1031
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: this case, and I just gave her, you know, I

1032
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: just gave her the umlation diet, and I gave her

1033
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: the antibotics and the anti fungals. I gave her probotics,

1034
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Vita Madie, some fish oil, not a lot. In six weeks,

1035
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: not only was she feeling better, but she like, save

1036
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the healthier system, you know, tens of thousands of dollars.

1037
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's almost like it sounds like magic, and

1038
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, no, it's not, because we've just been

1039
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: trained to believe that this way makes sense. Yeah, well,

1040
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 2: it's funny. We're more convinced that a manufactured pill will

1041
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: solve our body than the things that our ancestors have

1042
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: lived off. That's right, for years and years and years.

1043
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: That's right. So if you don't know how to turn

1044
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: on the body's healing system, then yeah, you need medication.

1045
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: And what's so exciting, Timmy Jay, is like we're in

1046
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: this revolution in medicine right now where we're finally understanding

1047
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: root causes and it's in the scientific literature, but it

1048
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: takes decades for that to get into clinical practice. I mean,

1049
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: to change medical education, to change reimbursement, to change how

1050
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: doctors practice. Is just such a It's like it's like

1051
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: we're all walking around thinking the earth is flat when

1052
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: it's really And so this paradigm shift is such a

1053
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: profound change in how we think about disease that it's

1054
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: going to revolutionize everything we do. And it's and it's

1055
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: only now be accessible to people through things like function

1056
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: because we're able to through technology, be able to get

1057
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: the amazing amount of world scientific literatures. You know, AI

1058
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: can read it in like five seconds day and it

1059
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: can synthesize it, and then it's your own personal health

1060
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: data set. It's not like you're you know, doctor's treating

1061
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: you based on a study it was on seventy kilogram

1062
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: white men from Kansas, which doesn't apply to an Indian guy,

1063
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, or somebody who's in like you know, Vietnam, right,

1064
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: And so basically we are treating to the masses where

1065
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: we should be treating to the individual. We call this

1066
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Speaker 1: precision medicine, personalized medicine. But medicine should be personalized. It

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00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: should be predictive, it should be preventive, and it should

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: be proactive that you actually don't have to react like

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00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: we do in medicine, but proactive. And that's really you know,

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00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: my Lafe's work is not only you know, taking people

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: with very series illnesses in reversing them, but actually getting

1072
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: people earlier. I mean, Benjamin Franklin said it right, and

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00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, And

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00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: so I can give a pound of cure, but it's

1075
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: a lot harder than an ounce of prevention.

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: What are you most excited about at the forefront of

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00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: medicine and functional medicine at the moment? Is it ai?

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00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? Well, you know I sent you like

1079
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: there's thirty seven billion and trillion chemical reactions in the body.

1080
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: It's the body so complex, it's it's physics is complex.

1081
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: Think about how complicated a rocket is. Like I can't

1082
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: even understand that. But that's a knowable thing, right Scientists

1083
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: and physicists can figure it out and then send a

1084
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: guide to the moon or build a spaceship that goes

1085
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: to Mars like Elon Musk. But like, the body is

1086
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: so instantly complex, and we see it in this reductionist

1087
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: way where every different organ has a different specialist and

1088
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: the body is all these different parts. But that's not

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00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: how we're designed. Everything is in the ecosystem, everything connected.

1090
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: You know, we're one whole web like organism where where

1091
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: everything's interacting with everything else all the time. And so

1092
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: that paradigm of thinking that way, and functional medicine isn't

1093
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: a test, it's not a supplement, it's not a new specialty.

1094
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: It's literally a meta framework for thinking about the nature

1095
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: of health and disease based on root causes and based

1096
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: on the body's system, and based on asking the question

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00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: why not what disease do you have? And what drug

1098
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: do I get? But why do I have this? And

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00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: how do I create health, not treat disease? And when

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00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: I create health, disease goes away as a side effect.

1101
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: And so that scientific paradigm is now emerging, and before it,

1102
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it was frustrating for me doing

1103
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: this work for thirty years because you know, just it

1104
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: was hard to convince people like, look, the earth is

1105
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: around like no, no, no, it's flat. See right there, it's flat,

1106
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: and they go, there's that disease and it's real. Like yeah,

1107
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, rheumatorized price is a thing, but it's not

1108
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: how we think about it, and we're thinking about it

1109
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: the wrong way. And so I'm so excited now because

1110
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: of AI and the ability to synthesize massive data sets.

1111
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you have one hundred thousand petabytes of data

1112
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: in your mind microbiome. A petabyte is a million gigabytes. Okay,

1113
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: your computer has four terabytes maybe right, which is a

1114
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: thousand gigabytes or something. I mean, it's just such a

1115
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: massive amount of information that's just your microbiome. And so

1116
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: your body is so complex, and we need technology and

1117
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: AI to help us start to understand that and then

1118
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: apply it to you as an individual and then help

1119
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: create a roadmap for looking at where your weak points

1120
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: are and how do you correct those and then how

1121
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: do you optimize And so that's what I'm so excited about,

1122
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's why at sixty five, I'm like doing

1123
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: the startup. I mean I was. I was with one

1124
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: of the one of the investors on a panel and

1125
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, She's like, somebody said, well, how do you

1126
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: how do you figure out what companies to invest in?

1127
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: They go, well, we invest in the founders, and I'm like, well,

1128
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: have you ever had a founder that's been on medicare before?

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00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: You know? I'm like, what am I? I'm like, I mean,

1130
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: help to live to be one hundred and something. But

1131
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing this because I don't want to

1132
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: see so many people suffering. They don't have to suffer.

1133
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: And I get these calls every day from friends and

1134
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: would you help this one? They help that one. No

1135
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: one can help me, And I'm like, I'm only one guy.

1136
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: I could work twenty four hours a day for the

1137
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: rest of my life and I wouldn't make a dent

1138
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: in the amount of suffering there is in the world.

1139
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: But imagine if we could put, you know, a thousand

1140
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: or one hundred thousand doctors in your pocket that are

1141
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: trained on the future paradigm of medicine and make it

1142
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: accessible to you in real time on a day to

1143
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: day basis to guide you and coach you and support you.

1144
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: That's a functional health's aiming to do. And I'm so

1145
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: excited about it because it's like, Wow, we couldn't do

1146
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: this before. We couldn't take this amazing complexity of human

1147
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: biology and help a single doctor understand. It's just hard.

1148
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: Like I see the pattern, so I can look at

1149
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: something quickly and I know in a few minutes like

1150
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: what to do. But it's the only re is I've

1151
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: seen tens of thousands of patients and millions and millions

1152
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: of biomarkers that I can make those connections, and I'm

1153
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: not that good compared to what technologies can able to do.

1154
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you wish doctors were taught today?

1155
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't get me started. My daughter just

1156
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: graduate medical school. She's brilliant, and she's now going to

1157
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: be an orthopedic surgeon, which I think is great because

1158
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: you need that, like you know, if you break your

1159
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: head in. So that's a kind of medicine that I

1160
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: think is we're really good at, is acute care medicine.

1161
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: But what she didn't learn about was nutrition, which Okay,

1162
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: we have an a chronic disease epidemic in this country.

1163
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: It's caused primarily by food. It can be cured mostly

1164
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: by food, and yet doctors know nothing about food, right,

1165
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: so nutrition, didn't learn about the microbiome, didn't learn about

1166
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: environmental toxins, didn't learn about how to create health, didn't

1167
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: learn about the bodies networks and systems. Didn't learn about mitochondria. No,

1168
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, she got like her first you know semester.

1169
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: She learned about the crab cycle in biochemistry, but didn't

1170
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: understand how to diagnose people with minochondril issues, which is

1171
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: our energy is powerhouse, and how everything works in our body.

1172
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: So those are things that doctors don't learn anything about.

1173
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: Didn't learn about how to optimize your immune function. Didn't

1174
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: learn about how to treat gut issues in the right

1175
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: way by fixing a leak you got. So there's so

1176
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: many areas that are part of the framework of functional

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00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: medicine that they don't learn anything about.

1178
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, wonder when you go and talk about

1179
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: how you're feeling. Yeah, you're not getting the information that

1180
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: you need.

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you go out doctor, you know,

1182
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: I feel this and that the other thing, and they go, well,

1183
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, I did your exam, that's okay, your live

1184
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: tests look okay because they do a very limited set

1185
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: and you know, you're fine, just go home and take prozac,

1186
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: you know. But they're only one or two things that's true.

1187
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: One either you're crazy and making it up, or your

1188
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: doctor's missing something. And nine times out of ten they're

1189
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: missing something because they don't know how to think. They

1190
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: don't know how to think about the human body except

1191
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 1: in a very reductionist way. And it's just not how

1192
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: things are. You know, we are a dynamic ecosystem and

1193
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: everything is interact with everything else in real time and changing,

1194
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: and how do you play with that? How do you

1195
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: as a as a as a practitioner, or even as

1196
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: an individual learn how your body works? I mean most

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: of us have no clue how our bodies work and

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: how to create a better functioning body. You know, we

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: take better care of our animals than we do our health, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't feed your dog a big mc

1201
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: fries and a coke, would you?

1202
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: Definitely no?

1203
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: But we give that to our kids. Yeah. Right.

1204
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: As someone who grew up in London, England and have

1205
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: the National Healthcare Service and then you move to the

1206
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: United States and of course most of it's private and

1207
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: there's not really any healthcare available as far as I know.

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think the US healthcare system

1209
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: needs to be focused on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, I'm excited. I mean, I'm

1211
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: working right now with Medicare and with NIH on how

1212
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: do things need to change, because they're very open and

1213
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: they're very interested in changing the way we look at things.

1214
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the even having access to

1215
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: good health care, which we don't in this country. I mean,

1216
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: in the UK you have the NHS, the National Health

1217
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: Service is great, but you know, maybe the quality isn't

1218
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: always as good. The reality is that most of your

1219
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: health is not happening in the doctor's office. Eighty to

1220
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: ninety percent of it happens with things that you can

1221
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: have control over. It happens in your kitchen, It happens

1222
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, where you play and eat and pray and work.

1223
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: That's where health happens. I mean, my wife's now studying

1224
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: at Columbia for her master's in public health, and she's

1225
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: just so excited telling me that how she's learning about

1226
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: how they're talking about the real drivers of disease, and

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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: it's like eighty to ninety percent is not stuff that

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01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: the doctor has control over it. It's the environment that

1229
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: you live in, and it's your choices every day, and

1230
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: so those things you don't really need health care for.

1231
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: And so I think if we can build a health

1232
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: system that activates people around that, then you won't need

1233
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: the doctor most of the time. And then they're there

1234
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: for a cute care medicine. You know, if you I

1235
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: had back surgery, thank god, there's some guy who knows

1236
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: how to deal with a spine infection and can put

1237
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: in hardware and like, you know, kind of build my backup. Great,

1238
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: thank god. But you know, but if I if I

1239
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: said to him, like what do I do to recover

1240
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: and become stronger than I was before, He's like, I

1241
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: don't know, just do physical therapy or eat better or

1242
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: very healthy.

1243
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: How do we hold ultra processed food manufacturers more accountable

1244
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: for getting away with putting excess sugars and multifiers, unidentifiable

1245
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: objects into our food.

1246
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good question. I mean, I think, you know,

1247
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: we've had a pretty lax system of regulation this country,

1248
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: and you know, we have I think ten thousand chemicals

1249
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: that are allowed in our food here in Europe is

1250
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: about four hundred chemicals and and they go through a

1251
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: very different standard of regulation in terms of older processed food,

1252
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: and they they are very restrict restrictive around GMO and

1253
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: around herbicides and lots of things that we don't do here.

1254
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, this's changing. There's this whole

1255
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: Moha movement. People are waking up. And I was with

1256
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: my friend a couple of days ago, Jason Karp, who

1257
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: was really founded a Huge Chocolate of people like Huge Chocolate,

1258
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: and he was very vociferous writing a letter as a

1259
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: shareholder of Kellogg's to the company saying, you have fruit

1260
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: loops that you make in America that have all these

1261
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: dyes and chemicals that are known to cause hyperactivity or

1262
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: immune issues or other problems and kids, and in Europe

1263
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: they don't allow it. And you make the same fruit

1264
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: loops but with natural colorings like from blueberries or whatever.

1265
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: And basically they were ignoring him. And then my friend

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: Vonnie Harry, they all went to Battle Creek, Michigan, and

1267
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: they had a protest in the fall in October of

1268
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty four and finally this week Kellogg's agreed they're gonna

1269
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: actually take all that crap out.

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, the FDA has now said they're

1272
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: working with food companies to either voluntarily or mandatorily have

1273
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: them remove food added in colors and dies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have been nonprofit called the Food Fix Campaign. I

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Speaker 1: wrote a book called Food Fix and a new one's

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Speaker 1: coming out called Food Fix Uncensored next February, and it

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Speaker 1: basically talks about how this problem needs to get fixed

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Speaker 1: from field of the fork and what regulations seem to happen.

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Speaker 1: But I've been working with my nonprofit for the last

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Speaker 1: five years and it's been amazing. And the woman who

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Speaker 1: was my key person, who's my seeing eye dog in Washington,

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Speaker 1: is now the governor wife of West Virginia. She's the

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Speaker 1: first Lady West Virginia, and that was the first state

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Speaker 1: because of her to ban food dies. And then they

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Speaker 1: also got snap waivers, which means they are going to

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Speaker 1: limit what you can purchase with food stamps, to not

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Speaker 1: be allowed to buy soda or certain kinds of junk food.

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Speaker 1: And this is happening across the country. There's like over

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Speaker 1: thirty plus states where now there's uprisings. And I'm living

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Speaker 1: in Texas right now, and this woman, Senator cold Course

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Speaker 1: is the head of the Healthy Human Services Committee. She

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Speaker 1: listened to my podcast You're a huge fan, and she

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Speaker 1: got so excited about this that she interested to bill

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Speaker 1: called SB twenty five in Texas that limited the crap

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Speaker 1: and the food, that limited crap in schools, that mandates

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Speaker 1: nutrition education for doctors, that starts a chronic nutrition Advisory group.

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Speaker 1: And it passed the Senate, it passed the House there

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Speaker 1: and it got signed by the governor into law. And

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Speaker 1: I testified at the at the hearing. And so there's

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Speaker 1: this movement happening now which I never thought would happen

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, that there's a shift, and I think

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Speaker 1: the food companies want to do the right thing, but

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Speaker 1: they're they're all in competition with each other, so no

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Speaker 1: one company can act independently because their competitors will eat

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Speaker 1: their lunch so literally, and so they they now that

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Speaker 1: this is happening at a nationwide level. There they're fighting and

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Speaker 1: they're kicking and screaming, but it's going to happen. And

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Speaker 1: the new dietary guidlines are going to come out, which

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Speaker 1: I've helped advise on, and that is really exciting to

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Speaker 1: me to actually have something out there that's going to

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Speaker 1: help guide people and what to eat. Food labeling is

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Speaker 1: changing and working with the FD on food labeling, hopefully

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Speaker 1: we can make progress on food marketing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like that's a big one, you know, like like.

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Speaker 1: In Europe, if I stuff has some die in it

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Speaker 1: or that's going to cause problem with kids, they'll say,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is bad for your kid, and if

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Speaker 1: you eat, if your kid eats it, they'll get add

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Speaker 1: and whatever, higher activity. And so the food companies don't

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Speaker 1: want that, so they change their formulations. So food marketing

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Speaker 1: is a big, big driver of behavior, and these companies know,

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Speaker 1: and they spend thirteen billion dollars marketing on food every year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of ways to fix that. You know.

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Speaker 1: The First Amendment might prohibit us from limiting the advertising,

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Speaker 1: but they could have warnings like they do in drugs.

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Speaker 1: They could you know, prevent them from being having a

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Speaker 1: tax deduction for spending all that money on food marketing.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of waste to put pressure changing.

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Speaker 1: Medical school education also important because think doctor is more

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Speaker 1: engaged in this. So it's it's a it's a multi

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Speaker 1: headed hydro that needss multiple solutions across a lot of

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Speaker 1: government policies and also people making different choices at the

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Speaker 1: checkout count you can vote with your fork.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I am so grateful that you survived. Yeah, You've

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Speaker 2: got so much work to do, and I'm so thankful

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Speaker 2: that you're doing it because you know, you are a

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Speaker 2: startup founder at sixty five year, You've got so much

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Speaker 2: renewed energy and enthusiasm. It's such important work, and I'm

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Speaker 2: so grateful that you came back on the show to

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Speaker 2: share it because it's important work all the way from

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Speaker 2: the micro level of the individual to the macro level

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Speaker 2: of talking about government level change and national level change.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited for people to listen to this

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Speaker 2: conversation because I think there's some really quick fixes that

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Speaker 2: people can take completely. And there's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: warnings in this episode that I really appreciate you shared.

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Speaker 2: Just I think sometimes we need to feel a sense

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Speaker 2: of just how challenging it will be, yeah if we

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Speaker 2: don't make changes now, And I feel like you've really

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Speaker 2: headlined some of them for us, So thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, Jane, For me, it's like

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Speaker 1: people people have all these things that they suffer with,

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Speaker 1: and they just think that they're.

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Speaker 2: They've got to live that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They've got to live with that. And and for me,

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Speaker 1: I've been so sick so many times from so many

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Speaker 1: different things, and I've had to recover, and I see

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Speaker 1: so many millions of people suffering needlessly. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can't end war, I can't end floods, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Famin and I mean, but like, this is a solvable problem,

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Speaker 1: and they're not hearing about it, they're not learning about it.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm obsessed, and that's why I'm a

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Speaker 1: founder of a company sixty five years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so grateful, Mark, thank you so much. Again. I'm

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Speaker 2: encouraging everyone to head over to function health dot com

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Speaker 2: forward slash Jay Shetty to get one hundred dollars off

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Speaker 2: to get all your one hundred and ten biomarkers. Of course,

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Speaker 2: as I said, I'm an investor in the company, So

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Speaker 2: very excited to give access to the knowledge and information

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Speaker 2: that you need to manage your health better, to take

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Speaker 2: to your doctor, to have healthier conversations, to actually be aware.

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Speaker 2: And I think all of our change, as we know,

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Speaker 2: starts ad awareness and that's the baseline, that's the foundation.

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Speaker 2: So very excited for you to check that out. I

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Speaker 2: hope you'll make the most of it. I want to

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Speaker 2: give a big shout out to doctor mark Himen again

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Speaker 2: for being here and thank you so much for sharing

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Speaker 2: so many incredible insights. I hope you keep coming back please,

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Speaker 2: I hope you stay well and again let me know

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Speaker 2: what you're trying, what you're testing, or you're giving a go.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're going to try the ten day detos, whether

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Speaker 2: mark Heimen. Maybe you're going to go off and get

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Speaker 2: all the access to the data through function Health and

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Speaker 2: you're going to take a look at what you can

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Speaker 2: avoid for you and your family. Or maybe you're going

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Speaker 2: to start making little changes, whether it's to your diet

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Speaker 2: by adding more fiber, taking out ultra processed foods, getting

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Speaker 2: better sleep. All these tiny shifts can make such a

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Speaker 2: huge difference. Tag me and doctor Mark Himen on Instagram

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Speaker 2: x TikTok. Let us know what you're changing, what you're shifting,

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Speaker 2: what you're working on. I love seeing how you're turning

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Speaker 2: these episodes into action, and I'll see you again on

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Speaker 2: another episode of On Purpose. Thanks for listening and thank

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Speaker 2: you Mark.

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Speaker 1: Thanks see.

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Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with

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Speaker 2: doctor Daniel Ahman on how to change your life by

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Speaker 2: changing your brain.

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Speaker 3: If we want a healthy mind, it actually starts with

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Speaker 3: a healthy brain. You know, I've had the blessing or

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Speaker 3: the curse to scam over one thousand convicted felons and

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Speaker 3: over one hundred murderers, and their brains are very damaged.