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Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Saturday, April eleventh, and the

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Speaker 1: leading Democrat in the race for California governor is being

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Speaker 1: accused of rape by a woman who once worked for him.

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Speaker 1: And she is not the only woman speaking out right now.

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Speaker 1: I've been against California Congressman Eric Swollwell with that. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roapes. This is

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Speaker 1: a very explosive story politically, There's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: activity just in the past twenty four hours, but on

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Speaker 1: the face of it, this is some pretty ugly stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are growing calls now for him to

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Speaker 2: drop out of the race by some very prominent Democrats.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't heard yet from the congressman about what

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Speaker 2: his plans are in terms of continuing to seek office.

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Speaker 2: But he has vehemently denied the allegations. He has done

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Speaker 1: Yes, he absolutely denies I think robes every bit so

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Speaker 1: far of what has been alleged. But Eric Swolwell is

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Speaker 1: who we're talking about. I think this was one person

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Speaker 1: robes that a lot of people. If you hear the name,

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Speaker 1: guy who has gained a lot of prominence in recent

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Speaker 1: years going head to head with President Trump. And I

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Speaker 1: bet a lot of people as soon as you see

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Speaker 2: Yes, he has been a sparring partner, if you will,

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Speaker 2: hadn't realized this early on. Dropped out pretty quickly. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden ended up getting, of course, the nomination, but he

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Speaker 3: He's a married father of three, and.

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Speaker 2: This is politically devastating, criminally potentially even who knows what

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Speaker 1: So the woman we're talking about is a woman who

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Speaker 1: has now done at least two interviews. She is not

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Speaker 1: name her. Now, Robes, we talk about Now we have

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Speaker 1: But this is a story that had been bubbling at

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Speaker 1: least for the past few weeks on social media, with frankly,

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Speaker 1: some social media influencers tracking down this story.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because the obvious, most egregious allegation is the allegation

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Speaker 2: by the same woman. But some of these social media

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Speaker 2: influencers describe a similar pattern of how they claim he

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Speaker 2: him being flirtatious and then starting to get more sexually

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Speaker 2: out basically, I think once they realized his prominence and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so some of those, like you said, robes and

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Speaker 1: Snapchat plays into a lot of these allegations. But some

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Speaker 1: You should probably apologize. Yeah, all these things, but we're

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Speaker 1: former staffer saying that this congressman raped me, and this

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Speaker 1: There is nobody standing by his side right now. They

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Speaker 2: I actually don't remember the exact politician who wrote this,

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Speaker 1: And this is why let's get into the allegation now

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Speaker 2: Yes, she talked about again that same pattern where she

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Speaker 3: It felt nice.

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Speaker 2: It did start to turn sexual and went on to snapchat,

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Speaker 3: She was twenty one at the time.

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Speaker 2: She says he told her to pull over in a

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Speaker 2: And so she claims he said, you're right, it's probably

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Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.

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Speaker 2: But that was just the beginning and look, and she

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Speaker 1: She flat out said she liked the attention. She used

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Speaker 1: here was he is one hundred percent wrong and starting

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Speaker 3: Office's twenty one. He's thirty eight as at at the time.

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Speaker 1: And again, there is a flat out rule in Congress,

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Speaker 1: consensual whatever age appropriate. No, So this is all wrong

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Speaker 2: They went out one night drinking with the group. Drinking

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Speaker 1: Not just nights out and having SIPs. We talking about

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Speaker 2: So they went from drinking with a group to then

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Speaker 3: She just said she immediately knew that they had had.

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Speaker 1: Okay with Robes, here is this incident. I'm not sure? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: nothing in there. And when I first heard that Robes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it was just a really night

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Speaker 1: Okay, and this is is this the incident where they

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Speaker 2: There was a hiking event the next day, and she

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Speaker 2: Definitely felt Obviously, I would imagine she felt pretty awful

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Speaker 1: All Right, So this is twenty nineteen. She doesn't continue

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Speaker 3: She left the position in twenty twenty one. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Describes this night in twenty nineteen, she continued working for

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and so they went out and again a

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Speaker 1: This is the one that is, she describes clearly as rape.

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Speaker 1: She uses the word rape. This man rapes me. Now

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Speaker 1: what is his reaction to all of this? He did

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Speaker 2: Questions, Yes, these allegations are false and come on the

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Speaker 2: even of an a of an election against the front

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Speaker 2: the public as a prosecutor and a congressman and have

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Speaker 2: and where necessary, bring legal action. My focus in the

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Speaker 2: Even well, he has to claim that she's making it

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Speaker 3: There is no proof of sexual relations.

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Speaker 1: And two we should mention if we haven't already, those

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Speaker 2: They've said that they felt like they had exceptional corroboration

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Speaker 2: It means that he's admitting to behaving badly as a husband,

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Speaker 1: His lawyer was asked about that in an interview with

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Speaker 1: But Robes, he says, these allegations are flat false. They

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we should point out this young

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Speaker 2: Right, because it's two Republicans who are at the top,

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Speaker 2: It seems at least these women are all consistent in

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Speaker 2: And one of the women actually met with him, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the she came forward and she's speaking.

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Speaker 2: Pursuing exactly, because that's where I was thinking. Politically, Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is those two things just don't go well together.

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Speaker 1: And look, we always robes in these cases, they do

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I think if it were just

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Speaker 2: Does she You'd have to look into it a little further.

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Speaker 2: Does she have a motivation? Is she being you know,

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Speaker 1: yourself out, and voters can do whatever they want to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But let the voters decide who are we to say.

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Speaker 2: They can listen to the women themselves, they can read

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Speaker 2: the accounts, and they can decide who to choose when

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Speaker 1: And who to believe. That is a very good point,

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Speaker 1: all right, folks, We want to hop on on this one.

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Speaker 1: This was an explosive story in politics that was I guess,

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Speaker 1: like we said, it had been bowling a bubbling, I

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