1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and it's a we're a week 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: out from the draft, Yeah we are. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Huh. The first night of the draft night was one 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: week ago. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wanted to go back today, Matt and 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: take a look at we had three trades I believe 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: it was three trades of four trades actually in the 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: first round of this year's draft. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: And everybody started all thirty two had their first first 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 3: That won't be the case next year, no, So. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to look at the cost of what it 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: was to move up or down, and then what those 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: teams acquired in those deals, because obviously next year the 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Steelers could be in that market. 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh, that's absolutely possibility of the plan. The plan, right, 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear that they're going to be 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: one of the most active quarterback searching first round teams 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: most likely. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: As an aside did that, I've seen a couple of 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: the twenty six mock drafts. 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been kind of hitting them too. 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: And I've looked at them, and the last couple that 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: I've seen haven't had the Steelers taking a quarterback. 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: I don't even look what team they put the players. 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: I just want to learn about the players. And boy, 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: there's a lot of tackles, there's a lot of Yeah, 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: it does seem like it's good in d line. People 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: seem pretty encouraged by the quarterback class. But we'll see, yeah, 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: instead of playing. 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: But the last two that I've seen haven't had the 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: Steelers taking a quarterback. 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: Most I've seen have not as well. 37 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 3: Right? Right? Right? 39 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: You get the Rams trading up for a quarterback, you know, 40 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: the Steelers trading up for a quarter Yeah. 41 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: I don't think people put a lot of time into 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: the team needs at the moment. 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: We'll just getting the right were all talking about that 44 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: as a team need going into this draft? 45 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: Right? 46 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: What's changing? 47 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 3: And Everie Rodgers is going to get a year older 48 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: in every article you see of biggest holes remaining Steeler 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: quarterback you know which I get, but it's it won't 50 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: be for long anyways. 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: So the first trade of the night was Jacksonville moving 52 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: up to number two with Cleveland moving back to number five, 53 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: So the Jaguars got number two pick, which they used 54 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: on Travis Hunter. They got a twenty twenty five fourth 55 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: round pick which was oneh four, which they used to 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: take bays Sheelle. 57 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: Touton, and then they definitely a faster on offense. 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: They took a They got a twenty twenty five sixth 59 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: round pick which was number two hundred, which they used 60 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: on safety Ray and Lane. Okay, the Browns got the 61 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: fifth over kid yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, the 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Browns got the fifth overall pick, which they used on 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: Mason Graham. They got the second round pick from the Jaguars, 64 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: which they used on Quinn Shawn Judkins. They also got 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five fourth round pick from the Jaguars 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: that they used on Dylan Sampson, and next year's first 67 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: round pick from the Jaguars. 68 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: Which is huge. So when that happened, I thought, that's 69 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: a haul for the Browns. I mean, that is a 70 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: really good haul. I don't like what they did with it, no, 71 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: but they do have two first round picks. 72 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: That was like, once they made that move back to five, 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: they should have traded back again. 74 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh. I think four and five was no man's land. 75 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, is most of these trades, 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: if we look in NFL history, someone goes from five 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: to two, it's for Carson Wentz or Drake may or 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: you know whatever I mean, it's a quarterback. Of course, 79 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: in this case, I think it was a double edged sword. 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: Which is why they got as much as they did. 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Was let me get out of no man's land at five, 82 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: because do I want from the Jags? Do I want Graham? 83 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: And do I want Membo? He was even talking tech 84 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: mc millan and gent you know, but like not exactly 85 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: what I'm after. With the top five pick, and I 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: get to the sweet spot of I probably get the 87 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: best player. I get what I think is the best 88 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: player in this draft. 89 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: I would have immediately been on the phone with say. 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: The Bears, the genty team. Yeah yeah, yeah, I. 91 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: Say, hey, if you want to get up here to five, 92 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: because we know the Raiders are, everybody's linked them to genty, 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: you wind up coming to Freus. You want genty? Yeah yeah, yeah, 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: And it wouldn't even have had to have been I 95 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: don't need. 96 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: To get you might still get Graham at ten. 97 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, You don't need to get a 98 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: huge haul to go back from five to ten. 99 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: If you could get a second, that'd be great, but 100 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: maybe a future second or you know, or I don't need. 101 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: A time because I already got my haull. I already 102 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of picks here. Yeah, premium picks 103 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: from the from Jacksonville. I'm sure I don't know the 104 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: draft chart off the top of my head. I mean 105 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: the Jimmy Johnson charts or whatever. And that doesn't even matter. 106 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: It's different for us. What was my point is, it's 107 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: different for every year. But anyway, if by chance they 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: turned a dollar into a buck twenty that fifth pick, 109 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: I would have taken ninety cents on to go to ten. Yeah, 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: because I'm still going to get somebody goes to your point. 111 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: They still might have gotten Mason Graham, Yeah, ten. 112 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: Right, right, or they could have got a better pick 113 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: and got like Banks. Yeah, I would have taken offensive lineman. 114 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: It's my point, not the ranks is a great prospect, 115 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: but them not getting an offensive linement makes my brain crazy. 116 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: But anyway, so they traded back. They traded away from 117 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter for two running backs in a defensive tackle. Now, 118 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: they did also get the first round pick next. 119 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that might be wonderful. And I always hate saying, 120 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: you know, like, well history shows that they're terrible at this. 121 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: But history shows they're terrible at this. You know, like 122 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: it's different people, but it is the same building. I 123 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: worked there. You know that they've traded down a lot 124 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: or had a lot of drafts in their history with 125 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: a lot of high picks. Brandon Weeden, I remember having 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: that terrible with it, especially quarterback. 127 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I was on with David Todd ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, 128 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: and he was talking about that. I really like what 129 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: the Browns did, trading back and getting all these future picks. 130 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, they've done that like three years in 131 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 2: a row. At some points you have to use the picks. 132 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: They were moneyball teams. 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: Then, you know, like we're just gonna keep trading back 134 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: because logically it does make more sense to trade back 135 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: than up. But you got to hit That doesn't mean 136 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 3: you're a good scouting. 137 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: At some point you have to use the picks. Yeah, 138 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: they kept trading every year they would they'd trade for 139 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: these picks and then trade them away the next year. 140 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: Like at some point make the pick. 141 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean really since they've been back in 142 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: the league. There's no doubt in my mind, they've had 143 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: the most multiple seasons with multiple first round picks. 144 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: But that was one year they three That was a 145 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: good haul. So they got a first. 146 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: On paper, it's a good trade. 147 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, first fourth and next year's first for a first, 148 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: a fourth and a sixth. Yeah, they moved three three. 149 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: I didn't realize the four and the six and that stuff. 150 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: So at least there's a little something, little sugar back. 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know they got they got it. They 152 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: moved down three spots for a fourth. I get it. 153 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: But then you took what you took in this particular draft, 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: picking thirty six in one twenty six. And if you 155 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: look at the draft at thirty six, the next pick 156 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: at thirty seven was Jonah Savonia. Yeah, could have used him, 157 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: Oh you could have used him. Who else was it? 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Arianta Urser went at forty eight. 159 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, linman were flying off the board, but you 160 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: can't not come out up without at least one premium lineman. 161 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: So two things I wouldn't want to mention that I 162 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: want to get back to this trade thing for sure 163 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: is when they took Graham round one ends we don't 164 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: know what they're going to do with the rest of 165 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: their picks, but they got a bunch. They're on the clock. 166 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: It's Thursday. I mean, they can do whatever they want. 167 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: They got this future first, what a haul. Great. I'm 168 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: thinking what I would do and what I assume they're 169 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: going to do is they're gonna draft linemen like crazy. 170 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: They got Graham, maybe they'll get an edge rusher. Now 171 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: in a deep edge class. Everyone's talking about what would 172 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: Carter and Garrett look like together? Boy, that'd be scary. 173 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: While there's still a ton of edges out there. There's 174 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: Mike Green, there's a Rique. I mean, there's tons of 175 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: those dudes. They don't get either. 176 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: As a recu Whent at forty four. 177 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they were taking him in the 178 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: first pick a round two, I've been like, that makes sense. 179 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: You didn't get Abdil Carter, but you got a ninety 180 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: percent version of him, and you put him next to 181 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Garrett and he's had singles his whole life. It's pretty good. 182 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: So they up with no old lineman and no edge 183 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: rushers with all those premium picks. Yeah, that makes me insane. Right, 184 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: two quarterbacks to running backs? 185 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: What do you address the needs? Ye know, yeah, right 186 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: and right is redundant. 187 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a backup tight end. It makes me crazy. 188 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: And they're getting to the team getting all the a's 189 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: and a pluses from these draftnicks. Yeah, because I guess 190 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: because they got your door. But they made a lot 191 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: of picks of people that people know. Yeah, you know, 192 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Judkins and Samson. 193 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: But when you look at the collective, it's like, yeah, big. 194 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: Jonah from Arizona would have made more sense. You know. 195 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: So he's not flashy, but he would have been a 196 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: starter for them, probably for eight years. 197 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so the Yeah, the Giants made the deal with 198 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: the Texans to go from thirty four to twenty five 199 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: thirty Okay, this is kind of what we talked about. 200 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: If the Steelers had traded back, you weren't going to 201 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: get a two to do that, right, right, right, right, 202 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: So they go back to thirty four, They get the 203 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five second round pick, they got a twenty 204 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: twenty five third round pick, which was ninety nine mm, 205 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: and they got a twenty twenty six third round pick. 206 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: Which for the Giants I think is a great move. 207 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: Like I'm not pick on Dart, but if they love Dart. 208 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: They apparently loved Dart. Whatever, that's not that bad. 209 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: Of all, the team drafted Forest Lamp a couple of years. 210 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: But that's not that bad. Yeah, if you got a 211 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: future quarterback, that's a worth of bite in the apple. 212 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: And we were talking about this too, like one of 213 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: our male bad questions was what if the Giants are 214 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: Titans get the first pick of the draft next year, 215 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: would they go quarterback? I don't think the Titans would, 216 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: but the Giants might. That's not even that much of 217 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: an investment, you know, like if Andrew lux coming out, 218 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: you take Andrew. 219 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: They didn't trade a future first to get to right, right, right, 220 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: They traded a future third to do this. 221 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: Which is sort of costly, but you're not married to 222 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: him to no, especially if you do get the first 223 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: pick of the draft, probably everyone's getting fired and they 224 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: the new guys might not like Dart anyways, right, which 225 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: is probably how it goes. 226 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: So it ended up being Jackson Dart. The Texans drafted 227 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: Jayden Higgins at pick thirty four. 228 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: Oh that was the Houston I was thinking. The Rams 229 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: made the deal. The Rams made the edge deal. 230 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: The Texans traded away the ninety ninth pick to the Raiders, 231 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: who took Charles Grant. Okay, and they've got next year's third. 232 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: It's not apples to apples comparison. Obviously these teams didn't 233 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: make the same picks. But if I'm the Texans, I'd 234 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: much have Charles Grant and Higgins than Dart or if 235 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm on any team. Yeah, I mean, obviously every team's 236 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: needs are different, but you know what I mean, Like, 237 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: those are better prospects combined to me than Dart, you know. 238 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 239 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: But meanwhile, Atlanta spends a lot more or gives up 240 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: a lot more for an edge rusher, not a quarterback 241 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: in the same neighborhood. 242 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Well, though, that was a terrible deal. That's where we're 243 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: going to next year. So they trade into the first 244 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: round to pick twenty six. They also get picked one 245 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: oh one Okay, okay for forty six to forty two 246 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: and next year's first. 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: The first as a killer, right, I mean two forty 248 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: two means nothing in that deal, but right, And that's 249 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: a long way for the Rams to wait. They end 250 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: up with Terrence Ferguson. Apparently they were trying to get 251 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: up for one of the tight ends couldn't hang around. 252 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: They take the Plan B tight end. 253 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they don't get much out of this draft, 254 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: but they got next year's first. Yeah, the Falcons did 255 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: that to come up and get James Pierce. The third 256 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: round pick that they got, which was then traded to 257 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: the Broncos through the Eagles, was used on Savon Jones. Okay, 258 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: the Rams got Terrence Ferguson, as you said. The seventh 259 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: rounder that they got was Kannada Mumpfield, the wide receiver 260 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: from Pitt and next year's first. 261 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Next year's first. So the beauty of it all right. Yeah, 262 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: so knowing the Rams, they may have a really good 263 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: year and trade for Tyreek kill the trade deadline, you 264 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean, or Pickens or Ramsey year, whoever. 265 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they could easily do that, or they could 266 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: have the Stafford replacement plan very accessible. Like it's real 267 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: easy to say they got two first round picks. They'll 268 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: definitely a quarterback. You said. To make it happen, you 269 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: got to move up the game. 270 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's say, for example, let's say the 271 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: Falcons finish eighteenth, which is possible. 272 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think they'll be second place in that 273 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: division probably Okay, so you get the eighteenth pick of 274 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: the rams. 275 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: They win their division, they're picking twenty four. 276 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, win a playoff game or whatever. 277 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: Twenty four and eighteen isn't getting I don't know if 278 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: that's getting you all the way up into the top five. 279 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: I would say I doubt think that gets you to five, 280 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: right to ten, Yeah, you know, if there's four quarterbacks 281 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: in the class or whatever. Yeah, and then you don't 282 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: have another first round I mean obviously unless you're also 283 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: going to throw in next year's first. Now you're going 284 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: to trade three first to move up into the top five. Yeah, 285 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: that doesn't well maybe they could, Yeah you could, but 286 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 3: you better be damn sure about that pick. I mean, 287 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure falcon everyone's killing the Falcons. 288 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: Let's say Stafford says, I'm going to play two more years, 289 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: all right. Now, you've just traded the way two years 290 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: worth of first round draft picks for guys gonna be 291 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: sitting on your bench. 292 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: Right or you trade out of the first round again, 293 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: you know, and you just keep kicking the can. But 294 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: then eventually gotta make the pick. Then mountain picks right 295 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: right right, I mean it's. 296 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: A nice thing to have, absolutely, Yeah, and I you know, 297 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: I hate what the Falcons did there. 298 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: Me too, But I understand Pierce wasn't even on some 299 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: teams boards because the character stuff, not that he's like 300 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: a criminal, but people just don't want to be around him. Yeah, 301 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: because real quick on the Falcons, I thought they got 302 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: a gift from the football gods that Walker was there 303 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: for their pick. He's a little undersize, which I think 304 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: is the only reason he was, But that's a really 305 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: good player to sit and pick in the middle of 306 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 3: the first round, right when edge pass rushes your biggest. 307 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: And everybody been talking about them wanting to move down because. 308 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: They were short on picks, right, that was the other thing. 309 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: They moved up instead. 310 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: They moved up instead. And then not only they trade 311 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: up for Peers, but I don't know what the trade was. 312 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: It wasn't super significant. But then they traded up for Watts, 313 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: the safety, who again, on paper, it looks like you 314 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: got too talented at rushers, Your pair him with Baits 315 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: and looks like you got a really nice pair of 316 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: safeties and your defense takes step forward. That's great, but 317 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: is that enough to put you over with a rookie 318 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: quarterback more or less? 319 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, what were they an eight win team last year? 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: Sounds about right. They're picking fifteen, sixteen, whatever, you know, Yeah, I. 321 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Mean I by the looks of it, they win at 322 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: least eight games again. And if that's the case, if 323 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: the Rams get the fifteenth pick in a draft next year, 324 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: they really made out on this. But it is Yeah again, 325 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: if it's if it's eighteen or twenty or somewhere in 326 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: that range. 327 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: You could be in Draft Noma. You could be outside 328 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: those first round guys. Yeah, you know, you could have 329 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: two picks. There's fifteen first rounders and you're picking. 330 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: They might have to move, They might have to move 331 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: twice to get up, but they might have to what was. 332 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: It the forty Eagles did that one time? 333 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: Make the trade to eleven and then you trade next 334 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: year's picking eleven to get up. 335 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: I remember the Eagles did it for Wentz. They did 336 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: it well before the draft, and then they traded up 337 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: again to get the two. 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, which is possible. 339 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: Which is possible? Yeah, you can you know, put these 340 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: things together. 341 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: But you know, I just assuming they're gonna again. All 342 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: these early mock drafts that we're seeing have the Rams 343 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: trading up into the top three. 344 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: That hard to do. 345 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: It can be hard to do. 346 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think either one of those 347 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: teams is going to be earn a top ten spot, right, 348 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean Atlanta got better, yeah for sure. Yeah. 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: And it's a bad division, like the Saints are awful. 350 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 351 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carolina's still pretty bad, pretty bad. Yeah, Tampa should 352 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: run away with Yeah, but they could be the seven 353 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: seed in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean that's not crazy. 354 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: Looks like he belongs, you know. I do kind of 355 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: get b John you still. I mean, if these guys 356 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: should be decent, one of these two pass rushers should 357 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: help their pass rush. 358 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's been so miserable for two decades. I 359 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: understand why they did it, and I'm sure the ownership 360 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: was like I'm tired of talking about pass rush, Go 361 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: do something about it, you know. And it seems like 362 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: analysts are killing the Falcons. And I'm definitely on the 363 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: other side of the trade too, but I kind of 364 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: get it too. I mean, like the defense needed it bad. 365 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and Raheem Morris is a defensive coach. Yeah, yeah, 366 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: all right, I gotta have some tools or and I 367 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: think these guys are on the hot seat. 368 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 369 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: So those are the three trades that were made. Oh 370 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: there was one more. Actually, you saw the Eagles and 371 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: Chiefs oh right, right, flop spots for that move. The 372 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Eagles got Kansas City's chief pick, which they used on 373 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: g Hud Campbell. The Chiefs got the thirty second pick, 374 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: which they used on Josh Simmons, and Pick one sixty four, 375 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: which they then traded to the Steelers for yeah yeah black. 376 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, I end up being the while you're 377 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: black pick. Okay. I always wonder how those trade talks go, 378 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: Like I want to flip spots with you. Some there 379 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: must be Howie Roseman must have some intel that somebody's trying. 380 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: Somebody else is trying to get into that spot, right, And. 381 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: The Chiefs tell them like, yeah, we're trying to get 382 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: in the spot. Give us a fourth and we'll be fine, 383 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: or it just don't take our left tackle. Yeah. I 384 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know how much transparency there is. 385 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Gotta be some trust there, yeah right right, but I 386 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: don't know. I'll flip spats, are you if you don't 387 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: take my guy? Right? You know? Yeah? 388 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: So those are the trades, and obviously that one was. 389 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, you get a weird one, you got a fifth. 390 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: Round pick, right, and the Chiefs were gonna take Simmons 391 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: at twenty thirty one. I'm sure, Yeah, they're not taking Campbell. 392 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I think it kind of gives 393 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: you an idea. If the Steelers do want to move 394 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: up next year. Let's say they're picking nineteenth or something 395 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: like that, twentieth somewhere twentieth like they are. 396 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: They were twenty two years ago, or they're twenty one 397 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: this year. 398 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: It's going to be awfully difficult for them to get 399 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: into the top five no matter what. You might have 400 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: to make two moves to do that, but you can 401 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: get into the top ten. 402 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: Right, there's four or five quarterbacks you like, like last year, 403 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: and even minus two or three of them, you could 404 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: get up to McCarthy. Yeah, you could get up. I mean, 405 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: top three was tough, but they always going to go 406 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: top three. 407 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: Probably not now if you want to make I don't 408 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: even I don't know that they would be able to 409 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: make two moves to get up there. 410 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: Who knows. Yeah, you'd have to get up a ton. 411 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: You have to give up a ton. So I'm assuming 412 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: first move up if you went from let's say you 413 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: go from twenty to eleven, might cost your first round 414 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: draft pick next year. 415 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I'm almost thinking unless there's a disastrous season, 416 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 3: which never happens, the twenty twenty seven first isn't going 417 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: to be owned by the Steelers. Yeah, and you hope 418 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: you've played the comp games well, or maybe you trade 419 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: some of those compicts is to get ahead of next year, 420 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: maybe end up with two twos in twenty twenty seven whatever, 421 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: you know? Cool, you know, but I kind of think 422 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: your quarterback's going to cost you to first next year's first, 423 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: and the first after that and then from there. 424 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Which is why you have to be damn sure about it, right, 425 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: If you're giving up two first round draft picks for 426 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: a player, you better be sure he's going to hit. 427 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: But I definitely I also think it's the right move. Yeah, 428 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know who the guy you identify. 429 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: You're not going to get the number one guy. You're 430 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: probably not going to get the number two guys, but 431 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: you might get your number two guys. You might get 432 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: your number two, You might get there. I mean, Josh 433 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Allen wasn't the first quarterback selected in that year? 434 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, right, right, So yeah, I mean, but as long 435 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: as there's enough true first round quarterbacks available, that's step one. 436 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: You needed to be four or five yeah, yeah, yeah, 437 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: and then you need. 438 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: A little bit of luck. 439 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean, even in two thousand and four there were 440 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: three and you need a little bit of luck to 441 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: get Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, it's funny if you needed the 442 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: Browns to be the Browns. 443 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Back to the conversation I had earlier, they're the over 444 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: under wind totals came out today post draft, but you're 445 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 3: basically the way they're going to stay. I'm sure Rogers 446 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: could change things. But there's four teams that are projected 447 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: to have five and a half wins. It's there over under, 448 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: and there's three teams with six and a half wins, 449 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: and those are the worst. There's none, there's there's like 450 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: four and whatnot, and most of them would probably take 451 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: a quarterback if they ended up at first. You know, 452 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: if things go disastrously, it's a Jets, it's a giant Tennessee, 453 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: you know, I mean New Orleans. I mean, if they 454 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: end up with the first pick, things didn't go well, 455 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: they probably would take one. 456 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: Let's get to a break, maybe we'll talk a little 457 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: bit about those over under totals when we come back. 458 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening 459 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt 460 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this. 461 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 462 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 463 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 464 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the 465 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt I mentioned. Well, we've got over 466 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: unders here now that the draft is completed here, so 467 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: let's roll through these here. I'm looking at the bet 468 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: MGM's over under totals for each team. They're in alphabetic order. 469 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals over unders eight and a half you 470 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: get plus one hundred and over eight minus one twenty 471 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: at under eight and a half. 472 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: Defense got a lot better. I like coaching staff. I 473 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: probably lean towards over, but I mean it's not a 474 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: strong fielding. 475 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: You remember is that they I believe the NFC West 476 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: teams this year matchup against the AFC South and the 477 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: NFC South. 478 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: Well along those uns. I was just double checking because 479 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: I mentioned Warren Sharp takes these and turns them into 480 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: strength of schedule too. The Niners have by far the 481 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: easiest schedule in the league, which makes me think that 482 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: whole division probably has it pretty good. 483 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: They've got it pretty good. They're playing they're yeah, yeah, Okay, 484 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: the Falcons we just talked about. Over seven and a 485 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: half is minus one forty five, so people are hammering 486 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: the over on that. 487 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: It does seem low. 488 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: Under is plus one twenty on under seven and a half. 489 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: So I used to pay a lot of attention to these, 490 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: and I still do. But the uh, there used to 491 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: be sums that weren't halfs Yeah, I mean like you 492 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: could push or it was a lot easier then. It's like, 493 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: if it was eight, it was like, what's the chance? 494 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: I could see nine wins much easier, and I can 495 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: see seven wins. But now that all of them are half, 496 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: I can't believe it took Vegas that long. Yeah, I 497 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: don't think over. I mean I worry them. I have 498 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: too many overs because it's just the most optimistic time 499 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: of the year. Is only bad stuff's going to happen, 500 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: as we always say, you know, uh, but if they 501 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: don't get over, do you think they're in trouble. Yeah, yeah, 502 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: which is why you're trading at least, right right, right. 503 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: The Ravens are eleven and a half minus one fifteen 504 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: to go over that, minus one oh five to go 505 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: under that. 506 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Big number, I'd probably go under. I'd probably go under. Yeah, 507 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: I mean, division's tough. 508 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: Eleven games, eleven games, eleven wins is a lot twelve 509 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: to win. Yeah, yeah, right right. The Bills are also 510 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: eleven and a half. Now, well, the caveat here is 511 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: that the Bills division easier, got a lot easier, got 512 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: a lot easier. Yeah, but they're minus one fifty to 513 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: over plus one twenty five to go under that eleven 514 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: and a half. 515 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: I lean towards unders on all those teams. 516 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: People are hammer neighborhood over on the. 517 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: Bills, optimistic fan base. They signed Elijah More today, By 518 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 3: the way, we talked about that with a weird UFA thing. 519 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: The Panthers over under six and a half minus one 520 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: fifteen over that minus one fifteen under that. Nobody cares 521 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: about the. 522 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: Panthers, Nobody cares if nobody's betting, nobody's bet now'd probably 523 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: lean towards under. But they're one of those teams that 524 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: are six and a half or five and a half. Yeah, 525 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: the worst. 526 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: The Bears are eight and a half. It's plus one 527 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: ten to the over, minus one thirty five to the under. 528 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: We a little too optimistic with them always, I always right. 529 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's good fan base. I'm sure that that's 530 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: mostly tough division, really tough division. I know he's now 531 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: in his second year, but I love betting against rookie 532 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 3: coach rookie quarterback combination. 533 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: Like two and four in the division. 534 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: Oh, you'd probably take that. I mean three and three, you'd. 535 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: Take it absolutely two, right, right, it could easily be 536 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: one and five. 537 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way of looking at it too. 538 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: Iway wass think that way first, Like how many getting 539 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: into the division? Okay, if you can get three, all right, 540 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: well that's part of the way there. But it's not 541 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: that much help, you know. 542 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Bengals over under is nine and a half. 543 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: It's minus one fifty to the over, plus one twenty 544 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: five to the under. They had some bad luck last year, 545 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: but they've also won nine games in each of the 546 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: last two years, have they? There have been nine and 547 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: nine and eight the last two years. 548 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: I thought they were well below that last year. Okay, 549 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: I would go under because I don't think there's enough change. 550 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: I what's what's so much different? Yeah right, I hear you. 551 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: The Browns over under they're low. Yeah, four and a half. 552 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's different than the one I saw. 553 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: Minus one sixty five to the over plus one forty 554 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: must be the lowest. 555 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I didn't see any that were under one 556 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: and a half. Ohoh, must have been bet heavy from 557 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: five and a half down to four and a half. 558 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: That's all. 559 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: It looks like people are betting now, betting the over 560 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: on that. 561 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: Makes they must sit the under heavy at five and 562 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, they're terrible. 563 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: The Cowboys seven and a half minus one twenty to 564 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: the over plus one hundred to the under. 565 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: They're really short on playmakers and the line and Dak 566 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: can make up for it. But man, who's carrying the 567 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: ball and who's catching the ball Williams? I think Williams 568 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: is probably lead back. 569 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver nine and a half plus one oh five 570 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one twenty five to the under. 571 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: Pretty tough division. 572 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: Plexiclass theory there, and say how much faith do we 573 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 2: have in Knicks to really be a ten double digit win? 574 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: Type guy. I'd probably go under. 575 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Detroit over ten and a half minus one oh five 576 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one fifteen to the under. 577 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Now that that number would be bigger, and I was 578 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: going to go under ten and a half seen half. 579 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: That division is rough. It's rough, but I mean I 580 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: no one's gonna go six and oh in that division. 581 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: The Packers are nine and a half minus one ten 582 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one ten to the under. 583 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: I would lean towards the over. I think I think 584 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: he's a solid. 585 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Coach, going to keep the playmakers healthy. 586 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: It's a problem. 587 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: Houston over unders nine and a half plus one ten 588 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one thirty to the under. 589 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: It might be mine of my favorites is getting bet. 590 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: I think i'd hit the over. I think that that 591 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: division is pretty bad. I could see five wins in 592 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: the division. 593 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: Well, the Colts and Jaguars are up next year, So 594 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: the Colts are over seven and a or they're seven 595 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: and a half is the number minus one ten to 596 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: the over, minus one ten to the under. 597 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: Could his seat be hot if they go noticeably under 598 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: with bad quarterbacks and May? 599 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 600 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everyone's good, even what was the Jags 601 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: haven't gotten oh, okay, I think you said in both. 602 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 603 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, teams on here, I'd. 604 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: Probably go Colt number is pretty good. They're always hovering 605 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: around there. 606 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is also seven and a half. It's minus one 607 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: twenty to the over, so that's getting bet plus one 608 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: hundred to the under. 609 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm a Lawrence believer, but I think that's more likely 610 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: to get seven wins in eighth. Those are both good numbers. Yeah, 611 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: this game is tough. 612 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Kansas City eleven and a half plus one hundred to 613 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: the over, minus one twenty to the under. 614 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I assume they play the Ravens and bill I 615 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: mean they're all first placed team things last y right, 616 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: and the division's hard. I'd probably go under. I have 617 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: a hard time going the big numbers. Going over. 618 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: It's tough, Yeah, because one injury quarterbacks you're done. 619 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: If it's two weeks, you lose. Mahme, Yeah, you know. 620 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: The Raiders six and a half. 621 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm a little shocked they were lumped with the real 622 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: bad team. 623 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Minus one fifty to the over, so apparently all the 624 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: betters are as well. Yeah, plus one twenty five to 625 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: the under. They get a coach a quarter I would 626 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: lean towards the over. Yeah, like Jenny too, Yeah right, right, 627 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: should have an offense now, offensive identity. 628 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: The offense might be quite good. 629 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: The Chargers, this might be the only flying The ointment 630 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: is that the division is also just tough. 631 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: Right, they're definitely fourth in the division. 632 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chargers is nine and a half minus one ten 633 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one ten to the under. 634 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't like betting against that coach quarterback combination, but 635 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't think they've gotten better. I don't like their 636 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: offseason much at all. They had a ton of cap space, 637 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: so they didn't do that much with it. 638 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: The Rams is nine and a half minus one fifty 639 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: to the over, plus one twenty five to the under. 640 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: This goes to what we were talking about schedule. 641 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: I think i'd go over. Yeah, I think they're clearly 642 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: the best team in that diviate. 643 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: So that that second first round pick that they're going 644 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: to have is going to be. 645 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: Twenty five Yeah, right, right, thirty two? Who knows? 646 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: The Dolphins eight and a half plus one twenty five 647 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one fifty to the under. Everybody's 648 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: going a yeah. 649 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: And they should. I bet that moved even seven and 650 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, that's rough. 651 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's a good head coach. 652 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure either. 653 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: I think he's a heck of an offensive coordinator, right, 654 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: he could scheme the hell of an offense, but I 655 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: don't know if the everyday I. 656 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: Don't know how much team building falls on him. But 657 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: I don't like the team. 658 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: There's a reason all these defensive players went out of there. 659 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if anything, they're gonna lose Ramsey, 660 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: they might lose Tyreek. 661 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: You know, the Vikings eight and a half, minus one 662 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: fifty five to the over, plus one thirty to the under, 663 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: So people were hammering the over. 664 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: Sad lean towards the over. I mean, I didn't have 665 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: a lot of faith in Darnold at this point last 666 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: year either. It is a young quarterback that hasn't played 667 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: getting tough division. Yeah yeah, I guess they think they're 668 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: gonna be third in the division. The Patriots, they must 669 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: be high because they weren't on the five or a 670 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: half or six and a. 671 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Half, seven and a half clear and it's minus won 672 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: forty five to the over and plus one twenty to 673 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: the under, so people are hammering over seven and a half. 674 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: I'm going under that now. 675 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: I understand they might be the second best team in 676 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: that division. 677 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I have to the sist in second right, 678 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: and Vrabel's great, but they just don't have that many 679 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: good players, right, I mean, it's still a year away 680 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: from b two year away. 681 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Are they going to go better than three and three 682 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: in the division? 683 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: No, I mean I think they're zer and two against 684 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: the Bills and they get one other or whatever. You know, Yeah, 685 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: that's one of my favorite ones so far, and especially 686 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: if it's paying off. 687 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: Is plus one twenty to the under the Saints six 688 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: six and a half. I'm still going under plus one 689 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: twenty to the over, minus one forty five to the under. 690 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if they fall to five five. 691 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 2: And a half two the Giants is five and a half, 692 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: I'm going over that. 693 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: They've a d line. 694 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Plus one twenty five to the over, minus one fifty 695 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: to the under. People are hammering the under on that. 696 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I think everyone thinks they're terrible when I 697 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: get that, and they're on the hot seat. But Wilson 698 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: can win them games, win sink and win them games. 699 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: You know. 700 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting getting to win six games. 701 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: Right right? Like I like their quarterback room more than 702 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: the Browns or the Saints. Yeah, to win this year, 703 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: maybe more than the Titans, you know, just to win 704 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: this year. 705 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: The Jets five and a half. They're bad minus one 706 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: fifty five to the over, so people are hammering the 707 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: over on that. 708 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: That's kind of like the over though, just because of division. 709 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: Plus one thirty to the under. 710 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: They can win two in the division. It's a pretty 711 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: good start. 712 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: The Eagles eleven and a half minus one eighteen to 713 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: the over, minus one oh two to the under. 714 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: There must not be any twelve and a half. Then 715 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: I thought they m must not be in half, which 716 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: I was gonna go under. I'd probably go over eleven. 717 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: And a half. We'll skip over the Steelers for now. 718 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: Sam from Cisco ten and a half plus one ten 719 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: to the over, minus one thirty to the under. 720 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: I mentioned they have the easiest schedule in the league. 721 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: I should have said before the Giants have the hardest 722 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: and the Browns of the second hardest, which gives them 723 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: another chance of getting first overall, I don't know. I'm 724 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: about to go under on the Niners. I still think 725 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: there's a lot of holes. 726 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: All those I mean a lot of their stars are 727 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: guys who get hurt a lot. 728 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kittle, Williams, McCaffrey. They're old, they're old, a little brittle, 729 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: and it'll be a few more quarterback reliant. 730 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: Now, the Seahawks seven and a half minus one twenty 731 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: five to the over, plus one oh five to. 732 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: The under, good defense, I'd probably go over. You said 733 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: they play with both souths, which is interesting, you know, helpful. 734 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: Are they the worst team in that division, because according 735 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: to this they are. 736 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: That's a close one. I think of. 737 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: Arizona and it was it eight and a half with 738 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: the Niners. The Niners are actually. 739 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: The favorite, I more so than the Rams. 740 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: Rams were nine and a half, Niners were ten and 741 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: a half. 742 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: Rams are clearly number one. The other three are about 743 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: the same to me. Yeah, but perception is different. 744 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay over nine and a half or over the 745 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: numbers nine and a half plus one fifteen to the over, 746 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: minus one forty to the under. A lot of people 747 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: picking the under. 748 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: I would go over. I think they'd win at least 749 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: four in the division, maybe six. 750 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean split the difference, it's five. 751 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: Start right, I mean they're probably it's totally different odds. 752 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: But if you look at what's it paid to win 753 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: the division. I would think besides the Bills, they might 754 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: be the most easy favorite for me. 755 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: You know, Tennessee five and a half minus one fifty 756 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: five to the over, plus one thirty to the under. 757 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: Probably go under. It's good, Yeah, I mean it's not bad. Right, 758 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: it's a tough one. 759 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: The Commanders. I'm going under nine and a half. 760 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh. I thought it'd be ten and a half for sure. 761 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Minus one twenty to the over plus one hundred to 762 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: the under. 763 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: They screamed PLEXI last principle to me, But I thought 764 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: that number would be higher. Maybe got bet down. I'll 765 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: still go under. 766 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: The Steelers eight and a half plus one hundred to 767 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: the over, minus one twenty to the under. 768 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: If they signed Aaron Rodgers today, do you think it 769 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: goes to nine and a half. Yeah, because I think 770 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: at the odds, I think they like crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 771 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna go roll with the quarterbacks 772 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: they have, you know, even if it's Cousins. Yeah, I 773 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: think the odds change that day. I would go over. 774 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: I would go over as well. Yeah, we just went through. 775 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: When we went through Mike Clay's fantasy forecast, will we 776 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: come up with twelve games where they were either favored. 777 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: Or it was a split where it was fifty to fifty. 778 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tells me more. They're gonna get more than 779 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: eight and a half. 780 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: And that, well Toman loses games you shouldn't. Well, he 781 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: wins games. He should do. 782 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Everybody. 783 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: Everybody does, that's why they play. 784 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: He actually wins more games that he's not supposed to 785 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: win than he loses games that. 786 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: He's right right right, Yeah, Like I'm I'd have to 787 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: go back and remember the Clay thing, but I'm sure 788 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: they were dogs against the Ravens twice and at least 789 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: the Bengals once. 790 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: I know I can remember. I think it was at 791 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: the end of. 792 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: I think a Brown's almost fifty fifty. 793 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: It was the end of the twenty twenty three season, 794 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: and I saw the stat out there that as an underdog, 795 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: straight underdog, he had a winning record. 796 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: That's great. 797 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: He was like seven or eight games over five hundred. 798 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 2: No other head coach and Belichick was still coaching. Yeah, 799 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: no other head coach was above five hundred. Wow as 800 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: an underdog. 801 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy. Wins those games, yeah, plus primetime games. 802 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 3: We've seen the schedule yet, I'm that's true for all. 803 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: Team, and we'll see that in a couple of weeks, 804 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: but we do know ones overseas. But you know, yeah, 805 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: so interesting. Yeah yeah, but I would go over eight 806 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: to half. I would do even even if it's Mason Rudolph. 807 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm going over eight and a half. 808 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, because they'll find ways to win games. 809 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: And it probably went't four in the division, pretty good 810 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: start at least three. Yeah, I like three as a minimum. Yeah, 811 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to play Thursday night in Cleveland. No, 812 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: I hope that doesn't happen. 813 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: But thankfully they don't ask us to play Thursday. I 814 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: just have to attend. Yeah, really really bad. 815 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 3: That's a great. 816 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: Anyways, he is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. 817 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: Those are the NFL over unders. At this point, we'll 818 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 2: circle back around on yeah, yeah, as we get closer 819 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: to training camp. 820 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 821 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: But that was It's interesting. It is the book and 822 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: see the perception out there, but there's no Vegas knows 823 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: stuff sometimes. Yeah, sometimes I don't know if they do. 824 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, but I think there's mighty to be made 825 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: that spots do if you're smarter about it. Anyways, we're 826 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: gonna get to a break. We'll be back with more 827 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: on the drive right after this. 828 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 829 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 830 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio. 831 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the 832 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we were looking at those over unders 833 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: for the teams here Matt looking at the same website 834 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: here at bet MGM looking at the Super Bowl odds. Okay, 835 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: to win it or go to win it? Okay, The 836 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: Eagles are plus six fifty. The Ravens are plus seven hundred. 837 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm a little shock there too. 838 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: I am too. Yeah, the Bills are plus seven fifty. 839 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are plus seven fifty. 840 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 3: I think the Bills chance better than the Chiefs or 841 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: Ravens to get the number one seed in the AFC. 842 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 2: The Lions are plus nine hundred. I guess they should 843 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: be second in the NFC. The Bengals are then next 844 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: at plus eighteen hundred. 845 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 3: That doesn't smell like the others, No, I mean, the 846 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 3: quarterback thing is great, but then they're not as nearly 847 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: as good a team other than that than any of 848 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 3: the teams imagined. 849 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: They have the same odds as the forty nine Ers 850 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: and Commanders. 851 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet on any of them at that price. 852 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: I mean the payoffs not good enough. They should all 853 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: be lower. 854 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: Right after them are the Rams at plus two thousand. 855 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: I like the Rams better than all those teams. 856 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: You've got two teams at plus twenty five hundred, the 857 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: Packers and the Chargers. 858 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: Packers I think should be in that neighbor. 859 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: They don't trust Chargers. 860 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: No, they had a lot of roster holes. 861 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: I don't trust this next team you get, well, we 862 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: got three teams, four teams at plus thirty five hundred. 863 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Listen to this group. The Bears, I mean it pays well. 864 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: The Texans. 865 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: I think they're better than some of the teams we mentioned. 866 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: The Vikings. 867 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: Maybe the one that I would the Bears don't belong 868 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: with those other two. 869 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: I wonder that would take a flyer on. Here is 870 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers at plus thirty five. 871 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: That's not bad. They've been close the playoff experience, yeah, definitely. 872 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: Then you have the Broncos at plus four thousand. 873 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: Getting the teams now where you really gotta squint from 874 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. 875 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: The Dolphins and the Steelers at plus five thousand. 876 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: Can you I don't know anything about stocks, but can't 877 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 3: you bet on stocks to go backwards? Like? Can I 878 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 3: not bet on the Dolphins? You know what I mean? 879 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: Like I want to do the negative against I don't 880 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: bet against it, right, I know wouldn't pay as well, 881 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: but there's no way it's gonna pay that. 882 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going uh at plus sixty six hundred. 883 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: Are three teams, the Cowboys, Patriots, and Seahawks. 884 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 3: The world's pretty high on the Pats. I don't get it. 885 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: They're not as good as those two teams. 886 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: It's rabel trust. 887 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good start. They just 888 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: don't make the players. 889 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: The Cardinals are plus eight thousand. 890 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: Was a better chance than the Patriots. 891 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: The Cardinals are plus eight thousand on this, but they're 892 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: over runners eight and a half. 893 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all about the betting. Who's putting their money places? Right? 894 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: The Falcons are plus eighty've never won the Super Bowl? Right? Yeah? 895 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: The Falcons are plus eight thousand. 896 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: Panics have to be a monster. 897 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: The Colts and Jaguars are both plus ten thousand. 898 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: Could you write a picture that the Jags turn things around? 899 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 3: And Lawrence's MVP or no, you know Richardson's average? 900 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, No, Yeah, the Raiders plus twelve fifty or 901 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: twelve five, I should say. 902 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that any of these teams 903 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: have a shot at this point. But I didn't think 904 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: the Commanders had a shot a year ago. They made 905 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: a final four Texans a year before that. 906 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: The Panthers are plus fifteen thousand. 907 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: What's amazing, though, is one of these teams that were 908 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: just mentioned right around here is going to be It's 909 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: gonna win ten or more. 910 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: The Jets are plus fifteen thousand. The Saints are plus 911 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: seventeen to five. Wow, the Browns, Titans, and Giants are 912 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 2: Actually the Browns and Titans are both plus twenty thousand, 913 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 2: and the Giants are plus twenty five thousand. Why they're 914 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: the other The Giants are being way undersold here. 915 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not putting any money und to win the superow. 916 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: Now, you said their schedule is the toughest last, but 917 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 2: the Browns are thirty five a better football team than those. 918 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like five or six teams ahead of them. 919 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: I think Dave Ball might be a decent coach too. 920 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not perfect by any means, but I 921 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: wouldn't put them thirty second in the power ranks. No, 922 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 923 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, just look at the quarterback play right right right, 924 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: at least they got Giants versus the Titans. I'll take 925 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: the Giants, yeah, for today the game right now, right, 926 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: Giants versus the Browns. I'll take the Giants, Giants versus 927 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: the Saints. I'll take the Giants, Giants versus the Jets. 928 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 2: I'll take the Giants, Giants versus the Panthers. Now we're getting. 929 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: Into that's a conversation. 930 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: I would probably still take the Giants. 931 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: Because they got three guys, right, you know, right, and 932 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: you've got a couple of bites at it. If it 933 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 3: doesn't work out. 934 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: We don't get the Giants. Raiders. 935 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 3: Now we're I would take Gino over all those. 936 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Now we're into that conversation. Yeah, the Raiders are plus 937 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: twelve twelve five. They're even close, not even closer to 938 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: win totals. 939 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, super Bow odds are weird to me though, like 940 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 3: so many of those teams. 941 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants, the Giants aren't a good bet. 942 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: They're not going to win the Super Bowl. 943 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: Most of them is just flushing money either way. I 944 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: mean it's just yeah, it could pay off huge, but 945 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 3: it's the chance I'm winning the Super Bowls pretty tight. 946 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Bucks are one of my favorite. Yeah, Bucks 947 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: aren't bad. 948 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: There's another one. I kind of like, Yeah, Bucks came 949 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: to mind. I like that one. 950 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: It could happen, could happen, and we could both be 951 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: scooped up by aliens. 952 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 3: Right. But I think we talked about this yesterday, Like, 953 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: if you gave me the Eagles and Chiefs or the field, 954 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 3: I'll take the field, right. I mean, there's there's still 955 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: a lot of change. 956 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: If I gave you the top four favorites on here, Eagles, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, 957 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: it would probably be about plus let's say plus one 958 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: fifty to plus two. 959 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: Have you parlayed those all four together? 960 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: What's it if you parlayed them? 961 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you wouldn't win them all. I guess I 962 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 3: would take those four. 963 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: I might still take one of these other like the Lions, Lions, 964 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: there's some other teams in the I could see winning 965 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. 966 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 3: I could too. I don't know those four light years 967 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: better than everybody else, but I like their playoff experience. 968 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 3: Like the Bengals. Don't scare me, but I bet one 969 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 3: of those four teams win it. I would take those four, 970 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 3: but if you gave me only three of them, I wouldn't. 971 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: It's close. Yeah, there's some from nowhere. 972 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: In the cases of the Ravens and Bills. Yes, they've 973 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: got playoff experience. Much of it's bad. 974 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah right, right right, like Bucks are getting playoff experience. 975 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: Rams have a lot of playoffs. Yeah. Still it hasn't 976 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 3: been good yea. 977 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing. 978 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 979 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. That's going to do 980 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on 981 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back 982 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: with our number two right after this