1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Ben and I will be recapping episode two of Joey's season. Ben, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: how did you like this episode? 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions for you, Ashley. I 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna. 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 4: Like, why does it have to do with Sydney? 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Well, there's gonna be so many questions. We're not gonna 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: like why what did I think of this episode? I 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: will tell you as we go through the episode. Overall, like, 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: just my overall feeling is like it was a good 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: Bachelor episode. I do have some moments where I was 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: like I could fast forward this and not miss a beat. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: But overall, good Bachelor episode, good start to the season. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: Let's start, Ashley with the first group date. I think 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: that's really the first moment that the show really starts 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: to pick up. It's my first kind of comment here 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: is you know what it is. It's a way date 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: and it's the. 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Wedding date, which they insist on. Okay, guess they love it. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Guess it's going to happen every season. 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: They must be getting good feedback, right because they do 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: like period. They get these good. 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: I think they get good emotion from the girls. 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean sure, I can see that obviously it 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: happened here. Well, the big storylines during this day it 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: is a group date. We are one, you know, week 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: into the show. I can claim I know more girls 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: by name during this season so far than I really 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: have probably in well since you know, since yes is 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: my season. So I do think I'm getting more. Say 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: why is that? 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting to know them quickly. I 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: don't know, there's like just unique faces or what. But 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: I think I know of their remaining twenty two, I 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: might know all their names. Or there's twenty two that 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: start out this episode, and then there's even less at 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: the end of the episode, and I think I might 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: know everybody's name that remains. 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Now, goodness great, Well that's impressive. I can't claim that. 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it is our job to a certain point, 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: so I try try to keep track. 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: You're professional, I'm not. But I do think also the 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: lack of drama on night one really helped that because 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: we did get to get to know some of the women. 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: I also believe a lot of these women do have 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: unique stories and so those unique stories help us kind 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: of help them stand out or at least make those connections. 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: I think that's helped. But this group date is as 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: as we said, a wedding dress date. They are all 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: getting married. Instead of like weird individual pictures in front 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: of all the girls, now they're just all getting married 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: at this wedding. There seems to be some you know, 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: strangers that are invited in. The interesting point to the 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: start of this date is as they're all in the 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: van talking, they're kind of sharing about what their wedding 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: day would look like. And it brings up specific emotions 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: for Lauren because Lauren mentions that her and Allison's dad 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: had recently passed. 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: Away and seven months ago. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: And I would like, this was what could I say? 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: Like? 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: That really got me. I don't know if it's just 66 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: you know, anytime there's it during this show or in life, 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: when somebody talks about their their family members passing, it 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: just really makes me go internal or at least me 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: feel for them. This moment really did make me feel 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: for them. For her, and I get what she was saying. 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: She's like, well, when I picture my wedding day, it's 72 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: not going to look like what I thought it was. 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: H Yeah, it's super sad. And then I like go 74 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: into the whole like my parents were getting older, Holy 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: grow up, you know, so I definitely get into that. 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: And then we see in this group day had so 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: many elements to it, and it had a lot of 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: the girls stand out in different ways, like oh my gosh, 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Evelyn jumping over the table when she he's stuck with 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: Like Evelyn jumping over the table. That was a statement 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: moment during the musical chairs, which love musical chairs moment. 82 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: We should totally bring this back more a like adult parties. Yes, yeah, 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: and then let's see I saw a lot of chemistry 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: between him and Rachel when they had that dance, when 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: he picked her for the dance, and I didn't expect 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: to see that, and it was it was there. Him 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: and Jess continue to be pretty cute together. The cupcake, 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: the whole left handed thing, anything else. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that. I mean, I don't think they 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: have any chemistry quite honestly. 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 4: And Jess. 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think him and Jess have any chemistry. 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he likes I like think he 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: likes her as a person. 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Sure, that's great. There's not like good he gave her 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: the rose though at the group date. Yeah, I have 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that Jess's confidence is going to 98 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: be inflated into the moment it's not okay. You know 99 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: those storylines from the show where we have that person 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: who's like way overly excited about you know this, way 101 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: too early on, and they like it becomes way too 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: much for them very quickly. I think that's what we're 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: gonna see with Jess. I think she's a sweet person, 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: but like, I just don't. I think her takes in 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: interviews have been way overly excited about stuff that doesn't 106 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: really exist yet. 107 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I can't understand. I get you get behind that. 108 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Is there anything else from the wedding portion besides Michael 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Bolton that really stands out to you? 110 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: He's awesome? 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: Was he? I feel like Michael Bolton's been around the 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Bachelor here recently. 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: He may have been, but I don't think recently. I 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: love a Michael Bolton moment. 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's great. I want to know how 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: they get Michael Bolton to come on. These films are 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: too young to appreciate though, well, they're all singing they're 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: all dancing, but they I don't know if they fully 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: appreciate it. I want to know too, what does that 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: call look like? I mean, Michael Bolton is a huge 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: star to be like, what's he doing with his time 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: now that he's like, yeah, I'll go sing for forty 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: people at a bachelor show. I mean, it is good exposure. 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: It must have worked out. It must work out for him. 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 4: But I actually think he's sick. I think he has cancer. 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: He still has a great voice, he's really good. But 127 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: the wedding portion of this, it was exactly what you said, 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: Rachel and him f chemistry. It did bring out emotions. 129 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: I do think Lauren in this not talking to him 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: and not feeling like she is ready to talk to 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: him is something important. I also want to point out, though, 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: because this episode kind of goes in a weird direction 133 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: after a while, I was very intrigued, not impressed, but intrigued, 134 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: and then also like grateful for Maria's care of Lauren 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: in these moments. She felt like she really didn't want 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: to care for her well, and her advice was good. 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: It felt like she was trying to like be that 138 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: rock for Lauren, and I think That's an important note 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: for us, especially as this episode goes on about Maria's character. 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: So so yeah, so I am invested in the Maria 141 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: storyline as I am friends with Sidney and I did 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: help her get on the show. And Maria is, as 143 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: you see a little teaser in this episode, not she 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: They're not each other's biggest fans. 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: So I watched Maria very carefully. 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: To give sid lots of my thoughts, and I did 147 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: think that she had good moments with Lauren on this 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: on the actual wedding portion of the date. 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: What did you think. 150 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Though, when she decided to slip into something more comfortable. 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: I thought it was good. I mean, why not? Why not? Like, 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: what's the problem? 153 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't like the first outfit was truly, in my opinion, sexier. 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: Okay, that could be. I think it was the it 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: was it was the art of seduction in the sense 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: that I'm going to change into something else for you specifically, 157 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: Do I think it was a move that uh, it's 158 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: not a move some would make, I guess. But what 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: it does do is it makes her stand out, and 160 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: it did make I think, Joey say, this girl is 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: trying to get my attention. It was not and it 162 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: was not overly like. 163 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: Not overly seductive. It wasn't like. 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: No, it was like where it was like weird to 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: see on TV. It was like, Okay, you're trying, You're 166 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: doing something different. It felt like a moment that he 167 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: will remember. 168 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 169 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: I think he's like. 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: It was a move for him, not for the girls. 171 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: You know that the girls didn't appreciate that. They thought 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: it was super weird and like that to them would 173 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: have been moment number one. Okay, I'm watching out for 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: this girl. She's not here for she's not here to 175 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 2: make friends. 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: No, but this didn't feel like any This isn't as 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: bad as I think stealing somebody when you have already 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: talked to him once like this was her moment with him. 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: She isn't there to like make these girls be her 180 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: best friend. But if they want to be her friend, 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: they can get to know her a little bit. And 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, well, Maria is willing to do this 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: to get his attention. This is who Maria is. Does 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: it make me hater? Did she do this to make 185 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: me look bad? 186 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: No? 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: Did she say something to make me look bad? 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: No? 189 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: She just did this to get his attention, and as 190 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: a result, I'm like, I don't see a lot of 191 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: problem with it. 192 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: It's not is there. It's quite harmless. It really is 193 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: it quite harmless. 194 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: We've seen worse. I guess I could. 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: We sure have. 196 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: And let me just say, Michael Bolton he had a 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: brain tumor and he had to go undergo surgery a 198 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: couple couple like a month ago. So I wasn't I 199 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: wasn't off on that, but he seems to be doing fine. Okay, 200 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: moving on, we wait, let's talk about a couple of 201 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: the other moments on the group date we had. Jess 202 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: talks about her like past relationship and like infidelity and 203 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: how she's super insecure about things, and the girls are 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: just super impressed by how like Joey listens. They're just like, wait, 205 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: you listen and you like like listening to me, like 206 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: talk about my feelings. 207 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 4: This is so special. 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: I will say this. You know, we've seen it in 209 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: the past with bachelor's where they are not good at 210 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: listening or good at kind of reciprocating feelings or emotions 211 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: or reciprocating response to story human story. 212 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: Right, he is very warm. 213 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: He's warm and he has he does seem to like 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: have He's in tune with what they're saying. He's responding 215 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: to what they're saying, and he's not just making out 216 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: with him, which is a big deal as the lead 217 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: of a show is how you sit in these moments, 218 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: and right now he's sitting in these moments fantastically. Not 219 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: because he is putting on a good face. I just 220 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: think that's who he is. 221 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: He's very comforting. 222 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: He is. He was that in person too when we 223 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: were on the golf course. He's a good listener. 224 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: Oh that's so sweet. 225 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't mean to like make it to me that 226 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: should be something that we should be shocked by and 227 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: a man though, But he does do a great job. 228 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: All right. So let's move on to the one on 229 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: one date, which is with Daisy. 230 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: And I'm actually shocked that Daisy got the one on 231 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: one right off the bat, because she was what we 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: said last week to be such a focal point and 233 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: episode number one that I was like, oh, wow, we're 234 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: not even going to have like a little break to 235 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: drag on like her star. 236 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: But we don't. And I guess a lot of. 237 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: Them may have to do with the fact that she 238 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: was going to have to tell him about the cochlear 239 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: implant pretty early on, just because the way that she 240 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: can get overwhelmed in the environment with the girls, like 241 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: with the hearing and. 242 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: Who knows do you do? 243 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: We often see for the person that is like the 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: star on night one, get the one on one. 245 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: I think it's all about what Joey wants there quite on. 246 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: It, but we know that this is but you've come on, 247 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: We'll tell us how it goes. 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely going to be like a multiple voices, 249 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: but he will have full right to say no, I 250 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: want to bring her on the first one on one 251 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: date and people will be like, yeah, but that you know, 252 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: maybe you want to save it for a different date. 253 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: That's what I mean, like save that. I thought, maybe 254 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: save that. 255 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: He could say no, I want to bring her and 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: they would say, okay, then you're bringing her now. I mean, 257 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: I think it would get when when maybe when anybody 258 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: would put their foot down would be if he was like, 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring Daisy on the date this week and 260 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: next week and the week after that, somebody'd be like, yeah, 261 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: you can't do that, like that's. 262 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: Not oh well yeah of course, Okay, Well then maybe 263 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: it was intentional on just you know, the other voices side, 264 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: because they were going to a concert and they were 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: going to an event, and I thought, almost at first, 266 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, this is rude. They're putting her in 267 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: a place where she's gonna have some hearing issues and 268 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: she's going to have to keep saying like what and 269 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: she may not be like fully in tune with what 270 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: he's saying. 271 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: But you didn't pick up on that. 272 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't think it was I don't think there was 273 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: any malice in it. I think it was Joey saying, Hey, 274 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: I like this girl. She stood out to me. 275 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 4: She said she likes she went on a concert, like, 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: she said she. 277 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: Liked music, and I'm going to this concert. That would 278 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: be fun, and yeah, like I just want to get 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: to know her. I don't think he had any idea 280 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: about her cochlear implants or her hear it now. I 281 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: really think he said, hey, I want to take her 282 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: on a date as soon as possible, and the show said, 283 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: well why not this week? And he said that would 284 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: be great. I want to do that. I mean, quite honestly, Ashley, 285 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: it's good that they did go on this date and 286 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure the show did want a date for them 287 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: to happen early so that this could be talked about 288 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: between them, so that she. 289 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: Would more comfortable in the moments that she may not 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: be comfortable. 291 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: I will say, Daisy to me right now, I watch 292 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: this date and actually would say this about Joey and Daisy. 293 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: And I don't think we've had this in a while. 294 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: I think the leads, we could say the leads have 295 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: had this, and that's just a thing that happens when 296 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: you're a lead. You're one of few, so people remember 297 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: you and they could probably pull your name back or 298 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: your name would be recognizable for a period of time. 299 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: I don't think we've had a contestant be as memorable 300 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: as what I think Daisy's gonna be, not because of 301 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: her complications with hearing loss, but just because of who 302 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: she is, Like she is made for the show. And 303 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: I say that because there's a scene of her journaling 304 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: like in a like in a little like daybed by herself. 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: She's very sweet, she's funny, she's in tune, she has 306 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: like this charisma, a beauty about her, and she has 307 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: this story. I think Daisy will be one of those 308 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: like legendary Bachelor people that we talk about for years 309 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: to come, and I haven't said that in year. I mean, 310 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: I can't even I totally understand. 311 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: I totally understand what you're saying. 312 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: I do think she's gonna be the next Bachelorette or 313 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: the person at the end, So I do think that's 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: gonna help her. But she's gonna be memorable, and I 315 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be really good for Bachelor Nation because 316 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: she's I think she's great, and I think she's only 317 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: going to get more great as time goes on. 318 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 319 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: There sit down was very compelling. I was when she 320 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: was telling her story, I was like, what is it? 321 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: Like, what what what happened? 322 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Like? 323 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: Why were you getting sick? 324 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: And we find out that it was lime disease and 325 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: then she talks about how she went to Germany to 326 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: get treatment. And now I want to know more about 327 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: this treatment because she's come back and for two years 328 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: she's been feeling great. 329 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: I will say this lime disease is of the devil. Yeah, 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's what you know my buddy had at 331 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: the start of als, It's what people you know, Kelly 332 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: Flanagan had, It's what people you know, it's right, Ryan 333 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: Setter has. It's what many people in Colorado have because 334 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: they hike so much lime disease. And I was like, 335 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: I wrote this down while I was watching the show. 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: I was like, how does the almost famous podcast push 337 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: the medical world to research line disease more? Because it's 338 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: becoming so a massive concern of me. It's it's one 339 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: of the top three most diagnosed infectious diseases in the 340 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: world in the US right now, and so lime disease 341 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: is very dangerous. If you have it, I feel for you. 342 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: It sucks, uh, and it is not it's not okay 343 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: that there's not good answers. I know it probably makes 344 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: you feel very alone. But it's wild to me that 345 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: she had lime disease and all this came from that, 346 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: and that we're still sitting here today. And if you 347 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: got diagnosed with lime disease actually tomorrow, for whatever reason, 348 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: you would go to the doctor and they'd say, yeah, 349 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: we don't really know what to do. Yeah, I'm sorry, 350 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: like are bad. It's it's wild to me that that's 351 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: still the case. And so yeah, just it's that's a 352 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: platform that if anybody's listening and they're like, hey, I 353 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: want to really do something good. Well, then let's go 354 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: out and figure out how we can stop blind disease. 355 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: But good, I mean, but again, like you said of 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: very compelling date for Daisy and Joey, I think this 357 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: date is the start of again something magical between them. 358 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. He has stars on his eyes, like yeah, yes, 359 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: yes he does. 360 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: He's almost like nervous, like not nervous and like I 361 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: can't talk kind of way, but just like he's just 362 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: kind of sitting there and. 363 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: He's intimidated by her, and it's like really fun and romantic. 364 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: It's good to be intimidated by your you know, by 365 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: your love interest. It's where you look at him and 366 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: you go like, I don't know how I got you. 367 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how you're sitting here with me. That's 368 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: a good thing. So the date itself for me, Ashley, 369 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: there's just no way that Daisy isn't around for the 370 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: rest of our television screens. 371 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: Like, there's just no way she slid into the top 372 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: three just right there, Top two, okay, top ten. 373 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: Like there's I would bet money on the top two 374 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: that Daisy is there at the end somehow, some way, 375 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: and that if she isn't with Joey at the end 376 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: of this, which I don't for see at this point. 377 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: Then she is the next lead of the show and 378 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: it's going to be great and the Bachelor so happy 379 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: because back to back successful seasons. I don't know, but 380 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: it was a big deal. The next group date, Ashley 381 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: was shocking to me. This was one that, uh, it 382 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: was the worst. I don't know if it was the 383 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: worse it was Jubilee was there. Jubilee was on my life. 384 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: I hadn't heard. 385 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: He hasn't been around for a while. They pulled her 386 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: out because they obviously wanted to honor an actual veteran 387 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: during their award ed She's fantastic. 388 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: I mean, she's such a kick ass girl. 389 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: But like Demi and Jubilee and granted, great to see 390 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: it very random, like completely random. 391 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, who knows, who knows, especially why they picked Demi. 392 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: But we like them both and we're glad that they're 393 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: they're there, that. 394 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: They're what meeting was happening. When they're like, get rid 395 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 3: of a group date, we need to, like, we want 396 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: to bring two Bachelor people back in to do it, 397 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: and they're like, who could be Demi and Jubilee, Like 398 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: what what a combination? First of all, and then I 399 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: had the same reaction. Do you think Bachelor Nation did. 400 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: Like maybe not as much because they'd probably like, it's 401 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: just the two of them aren't as like personal to them. 402 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: But I think that it's what school said. 403 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Jubilee was on your season, and she was on two 404 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: seasons of Paradise but never lasted in Paradise long. And 405 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: she's still very memorable. 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: Oh she's great, like she is. Yeah, she always has 407 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: been great. And I was so happy to see her 408 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: on my television. I just think, yeah, that was not 409 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: on my bingo. 410 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 4: I was like, is this a warm up for her 411 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: to be able to go in Paradise again? 412 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: Like if that was if that was Draft Kings and 413 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: it was like chances to see Jubilee again on The Bachelor, 414 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, it'd be plus one billion, 415 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: but I would have made a billion bucks. It was wild. 416 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 2: The date was like why are we doing here? Because 417 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: it had no substance. Again, you guys know, I hate 418 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: like action dates. This one particularly to me, it was 419 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: like I got nothing, knew nothing about these girls more 420 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: before it, I mean after it than before it. 421 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: And Weena is the only one that really stands out 422 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: during this because she's just so full throttle. 423 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 3: Well, she's the only one that got screen time. Like 424 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: we had like an action date and then we just 425 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: had one person spend time with Joey, which was good. 426 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: But then we don't it's like another one on one 427 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: it Yeah, it's like a one on one. So we 428 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: didn't have a cocktail party, we didn't have multiple conversations 429 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: going on. You know, they had their date. She was competitive. 430 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: She did deserve this. I mean, if you watch the 431 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: clips back, there wasn't a scene that she wasn't either 432 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: getting the the heart or falling down chasing after it. 433 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean that she had to be sore, scraped up. Yeah, 434 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: she still cleaned up nice and looked beautiful and went 435 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: on this date. I do like her kind of when 436 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: she got asked to go on in the day, she's like, 437 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't feel bad about this. 438 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: You know me too, that was fantastic. 439 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: Oh what do you guys want me to do? 440 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: But I. 441 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: Stay, I know it was so great. 442 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: They did the same thing on my season. We had 443 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: the tractor date. 444 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: We raced downtown LA and then there he was like, 445 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to pick one person to do like a 446 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: basically a one on one with Yeah, I mean it's 447 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: kind of a weird choice for week one to like 448 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: eliminate so many girls from this you know, quality time 449 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: but whatever. 450 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: But but a duena. 451 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: She basically told him about how she grew up in 452 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: an immigrant family and just always had to be strong 453 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: and like, you know, not in charge of the household, 454 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: but like helping running the household and talking about emotions 455 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: was not a priority for them. 456 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: It was more of like put your head down, work. 457 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: Suck it up. 458 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: And he really appreciated her vulnerability. They had a nice date, 459 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: she got the rose, she got some kisses. Anything else 460 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: to say about that. 461 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: No, I mean I think it was a great date. 462 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: I think that the two of them, I think he 463 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: needed that kind of night too. 464 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: You know, I was going to say, Ben, because we 465 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: saw it was at the Less Lake in and how 466 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: much that's right down the street. Guys, how much do 467 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: you as a bachelor appreciate when you can just have 468 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: a nice night in your hotel room. 469 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: Well I always did when football was on, because I 470 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: get back and watch the second half of the late 471 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: night game. But I was thinking more, this was a 472 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: hard date. For a Duena, and the reason is because 473 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: she was following up on one on one with Daisy, 474 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: and I think Daisy's date was so present on his mind. 475 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 3: Probably the next day, he's probably so excited about Daisy 476 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: that whoever was going to go on that date was 477 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: going to have a hard time because ultimately, when you 478 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: are in the Bachelor Bachelor, you're comparing all the time 479 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: to see who you have a better connection with who 480 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: you don't. So I think for a Duena to come 481 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: out of this date with a rose with a kiss 482 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: is in a sense a win for her and for 483 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: Joey because he was probably like, I don't want to 484 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: go on any more dates ever again, like I'm good. 485 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: Is he gonna pull up Claire? 486 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: No, he's not, because I do think but the first 487 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: two weeks is it's really hard because you don't have anything. 488 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: You only have, you know, one date to compare everything 489 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: else to, and you don't have the forty dates that 490 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: you'll end up going on from the start to the 491 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: finish of this show, and so you're kind of like 492 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: locked in at this point. Over time, he'll start to 493 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: like less lock in on Daisy and start to have 494 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: more of a you know a sample size, but right now, 495 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: I think it was just gonna be a hard date. 496 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: And so I'm glad that she walked away with a rose. 497 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: She's here next week, they'll spend more time together. Now actulely, 498 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lead this conversation into the cocktail party. So, 499 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: as you mentioned earlier friends with Sidney, I thought Maria 500 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: during this episode, Yes, we could pick out and pick 501 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: and choose things that were like, hey, that felt weird 502 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: or that felt awkward. I didn't really see anything. I 503 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: felt like Maria all together was very normal or very likable, 504 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: and very kind to the people around her, and very 505 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: considerate of the emotions that other people were experiencing. And 506 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: it felt weird to me that your friend Sidney decided 507 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: to go in this direction, because what I know from 508 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: Sydney right now, from seeing this show and from hearing 509 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: from you, she's a very sweet, very confident, she's a 510 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: business owner. She's really cool. It just doesn't like, even 511 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: when I'm watching this, and if I would never ever 512 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: have heard those things from you, I would have been like, 513 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: this doesn't feel like Sydney, Like this doesn't feel like 514 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: who she is. This is not a role she needs 515 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: to play. She needs to stay out of this. She's beautiful, 516 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: she is strong, she is confident. She is doing something 517 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: that she should not be doing. And I will go 518 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: this way, and I want to fight with me on 519 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: this again. I told you I was gonna put you 520 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: in a corner. Sidney was wrong, Like, not only should 521 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: she not be playing this role, she was wrong in 522 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: her take. 523 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Oh so I don't think she was wrong in her take, 524 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: but I will say that she certainly didn't look cool, 525 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: which I always you know, I always think of her 526 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: as cool. And she called me on Friday, and they 527 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: tell you the producers call and they're like, kind of 528 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: give you a glimpse into what you should expect on 529 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: Monday's episode, especially if you're you have a big role 530 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: in the upcoming episode. 531 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: And she was in panic mode. 532 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: So I was. 533 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: Eager to go and watch the episode and try to 534 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: really look at it from a very objective. 535 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: Point of view. 536 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, neither you or Maria look 537 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: like awful. And neither of you look awful. It's like, 538 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: no big deal. Your your fight just looks silly. 539 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: It's just like a dumb argument. 540 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: She I was like, it seems like you're getting into 541 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: somebody else's business. And then at the same time, I 542 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: do think Maria when she was talking to was it Lauren, 543 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: she was like, she's just complaining about being too old. 544 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: It's like I'm old too. She did seem a little 545 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: condescending about this, the conversation that Medina had about age, 546 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: But overall, I just think it was like a really 547 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: silly argument. I don't know how much I'm allowed to say, 548 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: but I guess I can say this. There was a 549 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: lot leading up to that that made Sidney annoyed, and 550 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: what was aired about the whole age conversation is absolutely 551 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: not what she has been annoyed with Maria. 552 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: Over well, that doesn't matter to me because I don't 553 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: know what that is. I'm just a fan of this show, 554 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: and I will say I will still stay firm that 555 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: she was wrong because I want to see anybody else. 556 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: Why did you think that she was wrong? Because, like 557 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: I understand that she was being a little condescending when 558 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: she did that. I don't think she had to go 559 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 2: I don't think Sidney had to go over to Medina 560 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: and be like, hey, just letting I know people are 561 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 2: talking shit about you, because it wasn't really like so 562 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: much talking shit. It was so everything was just like 563 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: so mild. It nothing should have been really, nothing should 564 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: have come of that conversation. 565 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you want to hear why I think she's wrong. Yeah, 566 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: well you just explained the first reason she shouldn't have 567 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: done it because it was very mild and it felt 568 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: that she did it. So in that sense, I think 569 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 3: she was wrong. The second one is typically in these arguments, 570 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: I because there always is other things. I look for 571 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 3: the reaction of others in the house. So who else is? Like, 572 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: who is else is fighting this battle? Right? Who else is? 573 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: Remember a couple of years ago, we had Victoria, who 574 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: was you know, Queen Victoria, and everybody in the house 575 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: was like, we got to get rid of Queen Victoria. 576 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: She is causing so many issues in this house. In 577 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: this situation, there's nobody else on Sydney's side, and there's 578 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: nobody on Maria's side either, but there's just nobody else 579 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: involving themselves in it. And so as a result, I'm like, 580 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: it is not a thing. So Sidney, why did you 581 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: make it a thing? 582 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: I think if you were, if you're here talking to you, 583 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: and again, like I don't even think that anything is. 584 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: It's like it's not worth my breath. 585 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Like I told her, I was like, if I didn't 586 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: know you, our recap of this on the podcast would 587 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: be like two minutes tops. We'd be like, what a 588 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: silly argument about age? Maybe yeah, she sounded condescending, but 589 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: like overall not a big deal, like why is this 590 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: getting airtime? But now that I know her, it's more 591 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: of a conversation obviously, and I just I just know 592 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: that there is more. She just there is more. There 593 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: is more going on. 594 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: And there is more people that have more opinions. 595 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: But like again, that's like stuff that doesn't make the cut, 596 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: and it's just like that's how it. 597 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: Goes on this show. 598 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: So much of what you want to see of your 599 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: experience doesn't get on and it gets extremely frustrating when 600 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: you try to explain yourself based on what people have 601 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: actually seen on. 602 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: TV and you're like no, no, no, no, like if. 603 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: Only you'd seen this, But it doesn't matter because we 604 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: don't know that side of it. I I know it 605 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: doesn't matter because we're talking about this show in particular 606 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: in this moment. Now here's my conclusion to it. If 607 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: this was the end of the conversation and this is 608 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: where it kind of fizzled out. To right, they're all 609 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: still around. There's the next week. 610 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 4: You kind of fizzle out. 611 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: Then it's nothing. 612 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: Except for the scenes to the next episode. 613 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, then it's nothing like it's then it's like, yeah, 614 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: this is a stupid conversation. You guys are tired. You 615 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: got to go to bed, Like try this again to like, 616 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: this is nothing. I've seen a lot worse. I've seen 617 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: fistfights on this. 618 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: She is so much worse. 619 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the scene is from the next episode point to. 620 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: This doesn't stop here. And what my concern is, I 621 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: agree with you on everything you're saying about Sidney so far. 622 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: She's beautiful. She is from what you tell me and 623 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: what we see on the show. She is cool, she's confident. 624 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: And what I what I'm worried about is this is 625 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: going to be the end of Sydney. Like she is 626 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: going to get herself in a situation that she cannot 627 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: get out of that she again should never have entered into. 628 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: And as a result, she was wrong because Sydney should 629 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: not have been playing in this mess. This was not 630 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: her mess to play with. 631 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: When Jared and I heard her side of all of this. 632 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: Both of us were. 633 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: Like, Okay, you should be interesting to. 634 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: See how this airs, because her story was definitely like 635 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: a she said this and then I said this, and 636 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: you know like a. 637 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: Lot of division. There's there's a lot of. 638 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: A lot of division for somebody that doesn't need to 639 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: be in division. 640 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we you know, we both were like, 641 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 4: should be interesting. 642 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: Sure, great responses again, Yeah it sucks for you. 643 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: No, No, I you know I had more hope than 644 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: Jared does. I still have more hope than Jared does. 645 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: I would love I can't wait to see the next 646 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: episode because this one I still stand by, Like I 647 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: want to know the general reaction. I was watching with 648 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: my sister this episode, and she was like, she's not 649 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: even you know she likes Sidney. She's met her a 650 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: few times. She doesn't, but she's not like gonna be 651 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: blind toward any of that or like really try to 652 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: stick up for she. She was like, no, Maria doesn't 653 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 2: come off She's like, Maria doesn't come across great. So 654 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 2: and I will kind of agree, like I don't think 655 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: Maria comes across as great, but I definitely don't think 656 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: Sidney's coming across as great. But I think both of 657 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: them are like kind of like, all right, I don't 658 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: have really a problem with either of you. See you guys, 659 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: you know I'm looking from a neutral perspective. I really 660 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: just think like, no one's like really effed up here. 661 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: Can you agree though, that Sidney should not have entered 662 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: in this conversation? Yes? 663 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah. 664 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: So like I said, I said, you do look like 665 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: you're entering into somebody else's business. 666 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're that person right. Next week will be interesting, 667 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: it will be intriguing. If I was friends with Sydney, 668 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: I hope to meet her one day. My advice to 669 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: her would be going Paradise because people like you always 670 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: come back shining and a star after the beach. If 671 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: Paradise ever happens again. 672 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: No, but she could have win. 673 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: Ben. I don't see you over Daisy. I don't see 674 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: it right now, my mind, I see it. Final big 675 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: thing from this episode is Lauren goes home. It's very 676 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: anti climatic for somebody that was, you know, made a 677 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: splash on episode one and kind of making a splash 678 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: on episode two in a storyline that we're all intrigued by. 679 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 3: She just is like, I'm out of here. And I 680 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: get it. There's a lot of emotion and she doesn't 681 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: feel like she's like in the right space and headspace 682 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: for this. And I think the comparison with her sister 683 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: is probably getting to her. But her exit is very 684 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: anti climatic. It might be the most anti the antiklmatic 685 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: exit I've ever seen in the show. She just was 686 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: like I'm out of here, man, and he's like, okay, cool, 687 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: I wish I could do something. Sorry, your experience sucked. 688 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 3: Here's a cake and she threw it on the grounds 689 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: like peace and that's it, Like how was all happened? 690 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I think it was kind of funny 691 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: and real, Like she obviously just like emotionally couldn't handle it. 692 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: And maybe it has to do it with like the 693 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: loss of her father. She's probably just in like a 694 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: very emotional stake constantly, like you know, up and down 695 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 2: all the time, Like she said, like the grief isn't linear, 696 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: and she was just like, you know, I guess I 697 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: can't handle this, and you know, everybody has that panic 698 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: moment this week. There's like something about Week two, like 699 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 2: I had a toll of what's shocking now a total 700 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: meltdown week two over some really stupid stuff. 701 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: Could not catch my breath. 702 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: One of the executive producers like took me out the back. 703 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 4: Door and was like, listen, you're good. 704 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: Like everybody has that moment week too. They're like, I 705 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: don't know if I can do this. You either pushed 706 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 2: through it and you usually real fine after that, or 707 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: you're just like, I gotta leave. 708 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 4: And she just had to leave. 709 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at least it makes. 710 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: Her a better situation for her sister. 711 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: Now. 712 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree, she did have to leave. 713 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 3: I liked Lauren. I liked her on TV too. 714 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 4: I like her vibe and she was good TV. 715 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: She was like that great you know that she's from Philly, 716 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 2: that Jersey vibe. 717 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 3: Very I thought she was going to be a mean 718 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: girl and she never was. She was like more just 719 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: mean to herself, like she was great. So we do 720 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: have quite a few exits this week. Obviously, the two 721 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: that stand out Taylor, who made a lot of screen 722 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 3: time with her commentary kind of on uh just Jess 723 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: in the situation there, and then Lauren, obviously is known 724 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: for going home. Next week's scenes from the next episode, 725 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: they look dramatic. My concern is that all those things 726 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: are not going to happen in next week's episode. It's 727 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: going to be spread out over kind of the entirety 728 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: of the season. But we do know they have the 729 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: Bachelor open, which looks fun. I wish they would have 730 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: done golf for me because that had been cool because 731 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: I love golf. But obviously Joey is a lot better 732 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: at tennis than I am at golf. And we do 733 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: see this. It looks like we see this Sydney Joey, 734 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: Medina Maria thing continue. Ashley, you are in the know. 735 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: I know you can't say a lot, but can you 736 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 3: tell us a yes or no if it continues? 737 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: The drama continues for a couple weeks, goodness gracious, But 738 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 4: I hope it gets like more substantial, you know what 739 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: I mean? Like we need to see more of the 740 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: crux of the situation. 741 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Is this. 742 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 4: That one conversation spurring that it's just weird? 743 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: They would not have aired that if it wasn't going 744 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: to lead to much bigger things, right. 745 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, Ashley. I'm not an expert in this show. 746 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: I just break it down every week. All I know 747 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: is I'm very excited to see it. I wish she's 748 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: the show. I wish Sydney would stop and just like 749 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: focus on Joey. I did not want to see her 750 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 3: be the one to do this, and somehow she is 751 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: the one to do this. So Ashley final question of 752 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: the week, who is in your top three? 753 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: Daisy Rachel really did stand out in this episode of 754 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: me for chemistry, so maybe I would say Rachel, and 755 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: then I love I still really like kelsey A even 756 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: though we didn't see much of her this week, and 757 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: then I do feel like Jen still is very much 758 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: up there. 759 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I will go Daisy Rachel. I can't say kelsey 760 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: A only because she is getting to edit. That makes 761 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: me think she's going to be around a long time, 762 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: because she obviously is somebody that Joey's into, yet we 763 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: don't see anything from her yet. 764 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes they skip week two when it comes to People say. 765 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: I'm saying she gets that edit this week, which makes 766 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: me think she's still there for me, but I can't 767 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 3: say it. Yeah, Jen, I'm gonna put Eliza up there. 768 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: Liza seems to be catching Uh. When you said you mean. 769 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: Jess, no, I meant Jen, who would didn't make much 770 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 2: of a splash this week either. 771 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Jess, you just said that you thought that 772 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: Jess was gonna like. 773 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 3: I don't think it's in there. No, I'm just intrigued 774 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 3: that I don't think she's up there either. 775 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 776 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put Rachel, Daisy and Liza only because it 777 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: feels like when Joey. When Joey sees Liza, he just 778 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: loves it. 779 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 4: Who's Liza? Well, hope, wait a second, how am I 780 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 4: forgetting this lady? 781 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: I like that actually said I know everybody's name, and 782 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: and then I'm the one pulling out names that she 783 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: doesn't know. 784 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: Are you sure not thinking aout Lexi? Because a Lexi also. 785 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: Had quite a nice moment during the cocktail party when 786 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: she did the funny thing where she was like, I'm 787 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: a fine arts I have a master in fine arts, 788 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: and then she. 789 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: Lexi was the one I was thinking, I'm sorry about that. 790 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 4: All right? 791 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: Still early on, we're gonna get better at this. This 792 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: has been the almost day this podcast again. Great episode. 793 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 3: Joey is fantastic. I think he is great for the show. 794 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 4: He's so good. 795 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he is just a good dude. I 796 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: am excited to see where his journey continues with all 797 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: of the women loved. I think we have a great 798 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: season on our hands, and so we'll be back next 799 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 3: week bringing down episode three of The Bachelor. I am 800 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: heading to Carmel, as we do most years, to hang 801 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 3: out with a bunch of former Bachelor people, to do 802 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 3: a lot of episodes, to recap with some of our favorites, 803 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 3: to get insights into new love interests and to what's 804 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: happening romantically in their lives. Ashley, obviously, with her big 805 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: announcement recently, is gonna be hanging back and just chilling. Y. 806 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: My body can't do another cross country trip after the 807 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. That was a strain on my body and 808 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't imagine doing it again. And also, Dawson's second 809 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: birthday on Wednesday, which is where you're going, And yeah, 810 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 2: the I missed. Well, we didn't miss his last birthday. 811 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: Of course, we met Tom Brady on his birthday, but 812 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't able to be home and my mom also 813 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: shares his birthday, so this week we wanted to have 814 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: them be together on their birthday. 815 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: It's totally good, it's totally cool. But I will be 816 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: going out to Carmel with a bunch of people. So 817 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: the Almost Famous Podcast is going to be producing some 818 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: incredible content, not because I'm the one doing it, just 819 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: because there's going to be some great guests, Susie and Justin. 820 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: Susie and Justine. 821 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 4: We'll be joining you for that interview via zoom. 822 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: Of course you are. Even though you can't make it, 823 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: you'll be there. You can't miss album. 824 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 4: There can't miss the couple that's like Jared and I. 825 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 3: Oh all right, well, hey, so again a lot of 826 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 3: content coming your way. This has been the Almost Famous Podcast. 827 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 3: And I've been Ben, I. 828 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: Have been Ashley. Hey, guys. 829 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on 830 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.