Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Tuesday, May fifth, Fellas, what
Speaker 1: do you do? Your woman has a big night red carpet,
Speaker 1: the biggest red carpet in the world. You want to
Speaker 1: go to a Knicks game, Fellas, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Or should I say ladies specifically Robock, what do you do?
Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1: Just in that scenario, what's a guy supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Go with his girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Period? Point blank? Yes, doesn't matter. We don't need any circumstance.
Speaker 1: I don't need no context. That's it.
Speaker 2: You support your lady, bam.
Speaker 1: All right, that was simple enough.
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think.
Speaker 1: I think there's some context. I think we need to
Speaker 1: talk some context. But at this point people might know
Speaker 1: who we're talking about. One of the most famous or
Speaker 1: photographed couples in the world at this point didn't show
Speaker 1: up on one of the most famous red carpets last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a couple that has actually planned
Speaker 2: their matching outfit together on red carpets before. So we
Speaker 2: were excited to see them make a met Gala debut.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of watchers were looking it. We
Speaker 2: weren't holding our breaths you and me specifically. But I
Speaker 2: do think a lot of folks were hoping to see
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shallomey walk the red carpet at
Speaker 2: the met gala last night. But look a lot of
Speaker 2: famous female celebrities were missing their other half at the
Speaker 2: met galap Interesting.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's stick with the one very high profile.
Speaker 1: Is there another high profile absence? I guess the Ryan
Speaker 1: Reynolds one.
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds not being there with Blake Lively was a
Speaker 2: big deal, almost understandable, almost understandable giving the News their lawsuit.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who else? Obviously we're talking about
Speaker 2: Timothy Schalamey.
Speaker 1: No, Ben Stiller went with his woman. He's a big
Speaker 1: Knicks fan. I can't remember his wife's say. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: ma'm I can't remember her name. But he went with
Speaker 1: her to the thing, and he wanted to be at
Speaker 1: the Knicks game, and we chose. He even spoke about it.
Speaker 2: He made the right call.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yes, Timothy Shallow may which Kylie, Kylie Jenner? Okay,
Speaker 1: met ball big deal. The most photographed red carpet in
Speaker 1: the world with that zephyr to say, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's fair to say. Maybe can would that one
Speaker 2: compare me can and maybe.
Speaker 1: The Awesome Maybe? Okay, but I think this is fashion's
Speaker 1: big night, and this is what the Kardashian Klan, this
Speaker 1: is what they're known for. Now. Kylie is in town
Speaker 1: with her bow of how many years?
Speaker 2: Three years?
Speaker 1: So this is a real relationship.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this is a real relationship.
Speaker 1: I think Robes is the issue, not that he didn't
Speaker 1: go with her, but he preferred to be somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was spotted at the New York Knicks
Speaker 2: playoff game against the Philadelphia seventy six ers. He's like
Speaker 2: on the big mega screen, like it was obvious. He
Speaker 2: made a decision, by the way, for the second year
Speaker 2: in a row, to go to the k next game
Speaker 2: versus the Met Gala.
Speaker 1: So this isn't a big deal. This is what he does.
Speaker 2: Some folks are saying he.
Speaker 1: Snubbed her, snubbed They talked about this. They were together
Speaker 1: last year. Didn't she go?
Speaker 2: They have not made a Met Gala red carpet appearance together.
Speaker 1: Okay, so but she went last year. I assume she did.
Speaker 2: But it's a big deal that he didn't show up
Speaker 2: on this particular red carpet. It's so obvious where he was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that he was working, had a project out
Speaker 2: of town, had to be somewhere else. He chose to
Speaker 2: be somewhere else. And I think that's the difference.
Speaker 1: Where's the met the met gala is the at the
Speaker 1: seventy Oh, I thought there's it.
Speaker 2: Up there, the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I'm tough. It's
Speaker 2: the Upper West Side.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't give you the exact well I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think he's literally forty fifty blocks south.
Speaker 2: Agreed, because I think it's I thought it was in
Speaker 2: the eighties, like eighty one or something around there.
Speaker 1: In Madison Square is at thirty fourth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he is fifty blocks away.
Speaker 1: Literally fifty blocks away, and chose to watch a basketball
Speaker 1: game then go be by her side at this thing. Now, Robes,
Speaker 1: we can't take him to task or anything else because
Speaker 1: we don't know what's happening in that relationship. And she
Speaker 1: might have been this might have been a very easy
Speaker 1: conversation for them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she might have been like, babe, do your thing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make you be somewhere you don't
Speaker 2: want to be I'm with my sisters. She had Kendall
Speaker 2: there with her, she had Kim. I saw Kendall and
Speaker 2: Kim for sure. So she had a Kardashian klan alongside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we saw Kim aka Jane Judson. Is that what you
Speaker 2: called her? And then obviously Kylie had her own names
Speaker 2: that people were calling. The dress she chose like basically
Speaker 2: a version of Missus doubtfire with a padded nude bodice
Speaker 2: with nipples exposed, hard to miss her. And then there
Speaker 2: was Kendall. Kendall had something on that was not controversial
Speaker 2: at all, but not surprising, all right.
Speaker 1: But to this point, you we both would assume that
Speaker 1: she was She gave the okay for this. He did
Speaker 1: not defy her or anything. Right, we don't know. We
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know. I'm saying as we sit here,
Speaker 1: we would just we should give them the benefit of
Speaker 1: a doubt that as a couple they made this decision
Speaker 1: and they're just fine with the decision they made.
Speaker 2: I think I think that you can assume that that's possible,
Speaker 2: but also the other could be true as well. In fact,
Speaker 2: l magazine has a whole article about the boyfriends who
Speaker 2: skipped the met gala, and so I think that's kind
Speaker 2: of funny because I think, you know, if you choose
Speaker 2: not to show up alongside your gal, you're going to
Speaker 2: be called out by magazines and certainly publications that are
Speaker 2: covering the red carp.
Speaker 1: Right then, the next thing is should you be I
Speaker 1: know it, should any guy be criticized for not going
Speaker 1: alongside his woman when we don't know what that relationship,
Speaker 1: what that dynamic is. Quite frankly, Kylie might not have
Speaker 1: wanted to see his ass on the red carpet anyway,
Speaker 1: wearing some rat boy outfit not being offensive. I'm saying
Speaker 1: he's known as that thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's got his own style and
Speaker 2: obviously she likes it.
Speaker 1: He's got great style, He's got perfect style given all
Speaker 1: the stylis he has available to him. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe she didn't want I'm saying, why do any of
Speaker 1: these guys get criticized immediately Ooh, something's up he's not there.
Speaker 2: Because when you're not by your woman's side on a
Speaker 2: very big night where there are a lot of cameras
Speaker 2: and a lot of focus, it does raise eyebrows. I
Speaker 2: know a couple of the other big name celebrities who
Speaker 2: were without their dates. We had Hayley Bieber. Justin Bieber
Speaker 2: didn't show up, but he doesn't show up to a
Speaker 2: lot of these things.
Speaker 1: That reads is what I was doing.
Speaker 2: Zoe Kravitz, Harry Styles. But they got a lot of
Speaker 2: questions swirling around there. Don't want to do engagement or
Speaker 2: non engagement, So I can understand maybe why they wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be there. And let's see who else wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Oh well, Laurence Sanchez didn't walk the red carpet with
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos. He slipped in the side, but he was theirs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was his party.
Speaker 2: He paid for it, so he can walk in any
Speaker 2: door he wants. But yeah, those the Ryan Reynolds, Justin Bieber,
Speaker 2: Harry Styles, and Timothy Schallamey. We don't know where the
Speaker 2: others were, but we know where Timothy Chalomey was. And
Speaker 2: I think that's why maybe he's drawing the most heat
Speaker 2: or the most criticizing.
Speaker 1: This is where I would say he had a very
Speaker 1: good excuse and a very terrible one. As much as
Speaker 1: I was playing Devil's advocate earlier, guys, you have to
Speaker 1: go you just do. I know they're dealing with some
Speaker 1: different level stuff when it comes to celebrity and pr
Speaker 1: and all. They got all these machines around them. But
Speaker 1: just as the gesture goes, and just on a relationship level,
Speaker 1: an evening this important, this big two folks in the
Speaker 1: celebrity world, fashion world, you're not going to get photographed
Speaker 1: or talked about anymore than all this night, and on
Speaker 1: this night that people know you're in a relationship, a
Speaker 1: night that is this important to you. It's impossible that
Speaker 1: you don't want the man you love next to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impossible, even if we say, oh no, it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay, if you go to the game. Deep down,
Speaker 2: I would think, at least I can only speak from
Speaker 2: a girl's perspective, you would want him beside you at least.
Speaker 2: And I don't. I just think that they may have
Speaker 2: come to whatever agreement that they wanted to do. They're fine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, you're opening yourself up for people to
Speaker 2: ask questions. And maybe that's a good thing. Maybe they
Speaker 2: want people talking about them and maybe not showing up
Speaker 2: on the red carpet together. I had more people talking
Speaker 2: about them than if.
Speaker 1: They had, because we wouldn't have been today.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, and lord knows, the Kardashians know how to get
Speaker 2: people talking about that.
Speaker 1: But no, I have no issue with this. I have
Speaker 1: no issue with what they have decided to do. I
Speaker 1: would take issue in a regular relationship where you're your
Speaker 1: woman has a whatever. Maybe it's just a special luncheon
Speaker 1: at work that she's getting honored for. Maybe there's just
Speaker 1: a big group night out that's very important to her,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to show up alone. No matter
Speaker 1: how important of a game, no matter how good of
Speaker 1: a seat you have is. No, you cannot put her
Speaker 1: in a position to ask you to come. You have
Speaker 1: to know automatically this is a big deal for her,
Speaker 1: and unless she tells me otherwise, we're going yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't even have to ask you. I know
Speaker 2: that even if you had court side seats to a
Speaker 2: Knixt game during the playoffs, you would still show up
Speaker 2: at an event with me. I'm not even talking if
Speaker 2: it rose to the level of the met Gala. I
Speaker 2: actually think if it was even anything else, you would
Speaker 2: still say, Babe, this is what this is what you
Speaker 2: do in a relationship. I will sacrifice, and I will
Speaker 2: be there with you.
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't even say it like that. We're doing
Speaker 1: our thing tonight and we're skipping the game. I'm trying
Speaker 1: a bet. Example. I'm trying to think would be something
Speaker 1: the Razorbacks are doing, and I'm trying to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: Final four, Orange Bowl, These would be different conversation. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if the Razorbacks were playing for the
Speaker 1: national championship of college football, you would skip the met Gala.
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree, And I do think that there are
Speaker 2: ways in which, when you really do love someone, you
Speaker 2: see where that person's passion lies and you know that
Speaker 2: that's that's something that actually rises above whatever your needs
Speaker 2: or your wants might be, and that's what Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: they're all showing us how really in love they truly are.
Speaker 1: Maybe Kylie Jenner is showing us all how it's done.
Speaker 1: Maybe that, yes, even at that big of a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there's nothing romees think about this. There's nothing more
Speaker 1: high profile or important on the calendar in Manhattan than
Speaker 1: the Met Gala and the Nicks and the damn Playoffs,
Speaker 1: and that couple decided to split responsibilities and grace both
Speaker 1: of those events with their presence.
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go the other party. Now, now there
Speaker 2: are other people online. When we come back, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about this. There are plenty of folks who
Speaker 2: believe that Timothy Shallomey and Kylie Jenner deliberately chose not
Speaker 2: to walk the red carpet together. Not because the Knicks
Speaker 2: were in a playoff game, not because they're good for
Speaker 2: each other and their relationship supporting each other's needs. No,
Speaker 2: because they were trying to avoid what some have called
Speaker 2: the Met Gala curse. And welcome back everyone to this
Speaker 2: edition of Amy and TJ. I'm sure everyone noticed a
Speaker 2: lot of folks pointing out that some women were solo
Speaker 2: on the red carpet at the Met Gala last night,
Speaker 2: New York's biggest night for fashion and certainly celebrities. All
Speaker 2: eyes around the world are on that red carpet leading
Speaker 2: up to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and notably, one
Speaker 2: of the biggest couples I guess period around the world,
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shallomey. Timothy shows up at the
Speaker 2: NIXT game while Kylie is walking the red carpet, and
Speaker 2: they have never made a Met carpet. A Met Gala
Speaker 2: carpet debut they haven't made it together. They haven't been
Speaker 2: on that red carpet together. They've been on other carpets,
Speaker 2: just not that one. And apparently there is plenty of
Speaker 2: chatter online that if you show up and you're kind
Speaker 2: of a newer couple, if you show up on the
Speaker 2: red carpet together, you got about a year and then
Speaker 2: you're over. And there have been articles written about the
Speaker 2: couples who have walked the red carpet and months later
Speaker 2: they're over. Do you believe in the met Gala curse?
Speaker 1: No? No, And I believe some of these folks were
Speaker 1: dating for five minutes before they went to the met Gala,
Speaker 1: and so shocking they broke up five minutes later. What
Speaker 1: you're saying, the list.
Speaker 2: Is hilarious, It's very funny. I play, yes, it does. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, on this list, Yahoo actually has a
Speaker 2: list of They go through the pictures of all the
Speaker 2: celebrity couples that have broken up over the years after
Speaker 2: attending the met Gala. And I was laughing because there
Speaker 2: are some repeat offenders on the male side. The Weekend
Speaker 2: had a couple of them. Who else was I laughing
Speaker 2: at the Weekend was with Bella Hadid one year and
Speaker 2: then with Selena Gomez another year. That neither one of
Speaker 2: those lasted long. Shawn Mendes has made a couple appearances
Speaker 2: here on this list, So that was funny. And I
Speaker 2: just got a kick out of seeing some of these
Speaker 2: couples that I forgot were even together. Miley Cyrus and
Speaker 2: Liam Hemsworth though that was actually a married couple.
Speaker 1: They went back and forth for years, didn't they? Ye?
Speaker 1: They where are they now? They're not together?
Speaker 2: They're not together. No, Miley is engaged to another and
Speaker 2: I Liam, I you know what. I can't keep the
Speaker 2: Hemsworth brothers straight. We've discussed this on another podcast. I
Speaker 2: can't remember who's with Chris is with the Schwarzenegger right what?
Speaker 2: I thought he was with Schwarzenegger's daughter, Catherine Schwarzenegger. May
Speaker 2: am I getting those messed up?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's what one of the prats. That's hilarious. That's the
Speaker 2: other the other boys?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: See I can't even get the Chris is separated.
Speaker 1: How many scarsguard are they?
Speaker 2: Please? Can we stop?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So listen to Miley Cyrus and Liam Hamsworth, who were married.
Speaker 2: They were off again on again a lot. They attended
Speaker 2: in May of twenty nineteen. They broke up in August
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen. I mentioned mentioned Shawn Mendes. He showed
Speaker 2: up with Camilla Cobeyoh, they were a hot couple. They
Speaker 2: showed up in May of twenty twenty one and broke
Speaker 2: up in November of twenty twenty one. And then who's
Speaker 2: he with now, Shawn Mendes, I don't know, but he
Speaker 2: showed up with Haley Bieber one year. That was in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. What Yes, Shawn Mendes and Hailey Bieber were
Speaker 2: together in May of twenty eighteen. Broke up in June
Speaker 2: of twenty eight.
Speaker 1: That's probably why some of the guys don't attend. They
Speaker 1: don't want to see all these other guys. A woman's dated.
Speaker 2: I mean, you do start to see people's pictures popping
Speaker 2: up and again, which is fun. Kim Kardashian brought Pete
Speaker 2: Davidson one year. They May of twenty twenty two, broke
Speaker 2: up in August. A lot of these are like a
Speaker 2: contreme to the end of summer. You weren't shocked by
Speaker 2: these breakups?
Speaker 1: Play these breakups? He said, Wow, I really thought they
Speaker 1: were going to make it.
Speaker 2: This is very funny. I'm trying to see some other
Speaker 2: fun ones. Jamie Fox and Katie Holmes showed up in
Speaker 2: May of twenty nineteen, and they broke up in May
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Love. I'll leave that one.
Speaker 2: They broke up weeks later. That's probably the most egregious one.
Speaker 2: I still don't remember Selena Gomez in the Weekend being together.
Speaker 2: Obviously she's married now, but I don't remember that they
Speaker 2: went from They made it from May to October of
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and then they were gone. So that was
Speaker 2: I am laughing at some of these couples that I
Speaker 2: forgot existed completely. Amanda Seifried and Justin Long. We love
Speaker 2: both of them.
Speaker 1: I think that's an AI picture. I know those two together.
Speaker 2: They were together, they attended This Is a while ago
Speaker 2: May of twenty fifteen. They broke up in September of
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Those are two of my favorite actors on Earth.
Speaker 2: We love that.
Speaker 1: I love those.
Speaker 2: They actually show up in quite a few of our
Speaker 2: favorite horror movies too, which is yeah, it goes without
Speaker 2: saying ASoP Rocky showed up with Chanelle Imom obviously, now
Speaker 2: he continues to show up with Rihanna and they're doing
Speaker 2: just fine.
Speaker 1: We should yeah, we should mention that.
Speaker 2: Again, that feels sacrilegious after how much we have said
Speaker 2: we love that couple together. So anyway, look, the idea
Speaker 2: is I'm laughing ause Alex Rodriguez is on this list too.
Speaker 2: That's not shocking. So yes, maybe it's the people, not
Speaker 2: the events that might actually be a better bellwether as
Speaker 2: to whether or not your relationship may last.
Speaker 1: It is fun, but your advice to women in that
Speaker 1: situation would be what.
Speaker 2: You don't want somebody by your side who doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be there. So I wouldn't put the pressure on.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's okay to say it would
Speaker 2: be really important and it would mean a lot to
Speaker 2: me if you could do it. If you can't, I'm
Speaker 2: cool with that because I support you and I love you.
Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to handle let as
Speaker 2: a girlfriend. And if you say it, you have to
Speaker 2: mean it. Yeah, I can't say it and then have
Speaker 2: an expectation that he's actually going to do what you
Speaker 2: told him he didn't have to do.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why you would say it, because you're hoping
Speaker 1: he's going to say the right thing.
Speaker 2: You probably are hoping, but then you also have to
Speaker 2: accept if they don't because you gave the offer, and
Speaker 2: I think that is the right thing to do. I
Speaker 2: don't think I think you can tell them. I would
Speaker 2: like for you too. I would hope that you would,
Speaker 2: but I assure you I will not hold it against you.
Speaker 2: That is love, what true love would I think that
Speaker 2: would dictate that method, And then you have to stick
Speaker 2: to it. You can't say one thing and then hold
Speaker 2: it against him for not doing what you told him
Speaker 2: he could get.
Speaker 1: And my advice to the Fellows is don't let your
Speaker 1: woman get even close to asking that question. You have
Speaker 1: to stop it before she even has to say will
Speaker 1: you go with me? You all shouldn't have to go
Speaker 1: through that conflict at all. The thing we have to
Speaker 1: do you have to recognize and understand that she wants
Speaker 1: you to be there. Now, some relationships are different, and
Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't want you to be there, but rowe
Speaker 1: short of your alma mater being in the national championship
Speaker 1: at the final four and you getting a chance to
Speaker 1: be assistant coach that night, it has to rise to
Speaker 1: such a high level before you would even say Hey, babe,
Speaker 1: do you think I could it? Just and most of
Speaker 1: the times it doesn't rise to that level. So not
Speaker 1: criticizing Timothy Schalamey and their relationship. They have their understanding
Speaker 1: so never, but it was just such an interesting question.
Speaker 1: As soon as I saw this one, I said, hey, babe,
Speaker 1: what would you do?
Speaker 2: And I think we both said the right thing. And look,
Speaker 2: it is individual, but it was still interesting and I
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun looking at all the couples
Speaker 2: who didn't make it past the met Gala red carpet.
Speaker 2: And with that everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us.
Speaker 2: I'm Amy Roebuck alongside T. J. Holmes. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: you soon.