1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. It's amazing to me how many people come 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: in from another shop and they're absolutely miserable because they've 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: spent a pile of money and nothing's fit the Car 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Doctor and the Lord. You step on the gas and 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't accelerate smoothly exactly. Yeah, it's help. Yeah, it's 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: sort of. It's sort of dregs. It's like you're stepping 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: on the break in the gas at the same time, 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it takes off. Yep, exactly. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage doors. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Are opening, but I am here to take your call 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and now, he. 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Ronning, I want to. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Talk about the I want to talk about this twenty 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: eighteen gmccre I've been working on in the shop that's 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: finally fixed. And I should point out too that if 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: if you aren't following us on YouTube, you really kind 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: of need to all right. You know, I really haven't 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: talked about it a lot lately, but we've got more 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: than a few videos up there. Now. We're trying to 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: link the videos that are there with what went on 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: in the shop and how they got fixed and then 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: when I talked to them up here. We're trying to 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: give you guys a three dimensional platform, so to speak. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Is it worse so that you can, you know, hear 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: me explain it and then go watch it, so you know, 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: get out to YouTube and just do Roninanie and the 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: car Doctor, you know, search for Roninanian and it'll come up. 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Or you can go right to our website and there's 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: videos there that will link you to and take you 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: to the YouTube channel and then obviously Facebook and all 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. And listen, we're just trying to give you 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: guys information that's you know, that's our we forgot. This 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: is the best way to do it since the broadcast 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: television deal hasn't come along yet. You know, maybe it 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: really is the face made for radio. We had twenty 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: eighteen GMCC era that wouldn't engage four wheel drive and 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: you would start the truck up and you would get 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: a warning it's a service four wheel drive come up 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: on the dashboard. So we did a routine diagnosis same 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: we come up with a C zero six thirty four 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: dot four actuator fault, which when you read the fine 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: print and the four is interesting, right, that's a modifier 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: is what the manufacturers call that. They've now broken down 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: code category and description into into subcategories. So for this 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: particular fault, there was a six thirty four oh one 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: oh two oh three oh four O four meant that 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the computer detected an open circuit in the front actuator 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: or the front actuator wiring. So I went about, you 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: know like that always said steps one through twelve, one, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: two through f five, six, seventy nine, ten, twelve, eleven, Uh, 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: don't skip eleven. And I went through the steps and 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: by one means after another, came to the conclusion that, yes, 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: there wasn't open in the harness. How do I go 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: about repairing that? How do I go about finding that? Well, 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: when you look to the wiring diagram, there were four 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: wires at this actuator. There's a pink which is power. 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: You've got a black which is grant. It goes to 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: G one twenty. You've got a gray black, which is 63 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the actuator control because they locked the front axle by 64 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: means of extending a motor which slides a shift fork over, 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: just like an old school manual transmission. It would slide 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: over and lock the differential into a posey application, so 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: to speak. Both axles were locked and matched to the 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: rear transfer match to the transfer case in the rear wheels. 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: And then the fourth wire was yellow. That was just 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: an indicator back to the trans control transfercation control module 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that the vehicle was in four wheel drive, that the 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: actuator had locked, so I knew I had power. I 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: low tested that using a bunch of different ways, one 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: of which was a headlamp which shone brightly, so I 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: know I didn't have an issue there. So it came 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: down to, all right, what am I missing? Because it 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: would work and it was erradic It would work one 78 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: minute and not the next. So when looking at the 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: wiring diagram from the actuator, the actuator wiring, that gray 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: black went back right to the transfer case control module. 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: It went through two connectors X one eleven and X 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: one fifteen. Now X one fifteen, it's just names. It's 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: nothing special, but X one fifteen is under the dash 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: it's inside the passenger compartment under the dash at the 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: base of the dashboard. It's kind of tough to get to. 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: It's not the easiest thing. You're going to take some 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: of the dashboard out. And I said, you know, I 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: always remember the rule. You got to get to the 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: middle of the problem as fast as you can because 90 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: once you get halfway there, you can diagnose and get 91 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: another half and then another half and eventually fix it faster. 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Because that's the golden rule, right. So I decided, let 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: me go look at Connector one eleven. I pulled down 94 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: now to get the Connector one eleven. This is an 95 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: This is an eighteen GMCCI era three quarter ton truck 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: with the diesel engine in it. There's not a lot 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: of room under the hood. Well, there is, but unfortunately 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: they fill it up with an engine, and it's a 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: big one. It's the diesel. So I had to pull 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: the inner wheelwell out on the left side, which isn't hard. 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: It's fifteen twenty minutes without rust and aggravation and clips 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that gets stuck and trim that gets in the way 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: and so on. So take the wheel well out, took 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the wheel well out. And this is where you got 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to see the video to really appreciate this. There's connector 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: one eleven and General Motors. God bless engineers, I say this, 107 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: God blessed them. They strapped and looped this connector to 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: hold it in a fixed position because they didn't want 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: anything to happen to the wiring of the connector. Good idea. Unfortunately, 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: it was strapped and locked in place so that the 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: wiring loom for the connector of which the gray black 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: wire was one of them, was laying right against the 113 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: wheel well and it wore a hole in the insulation. 114 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: That hole eventually gave way too. There was no more insulation, 115 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: allowed moisture, dirty underhood moisture right to work its way 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: into the wire and it just dissolved it and all 117 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: it left was a big patch of green blue corrosion. 118 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: And it would sometimes connect and sometimes it wouldn't. And 119 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: eventually it got to the point where C zero six 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: thirty four to H four open circuit front drive actuator 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: had to go find a connector, which wasn't hard. Right, 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: we were able to overnight one out of the local 123 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: GM dealer and spliced in a new harness made some 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: proper repairs, soughted everything up and sent it on its way. 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's kind of you know, as 126 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: I said to the customer, I said, talk about a 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: needle in a haystack. To find one wire is difficult. 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to run new wire, just a 129 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: new wire from the transfer case control module. Once I 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: determined that, you know, I just wanted to make sure 131 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: where the fault begin and I lucked out when I 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: saw x X one eleven. But it's fixed, and it 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of brings back to the point of everything is repairable. 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of persistence. And you know, 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: how quick can you get to the middle? I think 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: the middle is the answer because the quicker you get 137 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: to the middle, that's less time you spend chasing your tail. 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, when you call into this 139 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: show at eight five five five six zero nine nine 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: zero zero and I ask you what tests have you done? 141 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: That's why because I want to know that you know, 142 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, I want to know that you you actually 143 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: tried to solve it. You know, I often think of 144 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: so many calls we had one, and I'm you know, 145 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: we're posting Classic Car Doctor up on the podcast channel, 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: which is Old Car Doctor radio shows. I mean, some 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: of these are going back almost eighteen years now. We've 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: been here thirty three three, so we've got some really 149 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: old stuff we're putting them. That's what a classic card 150 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: doctor is. But the point becomes, I listen to them. 151 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I have to listen to each and every one to 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, make sure that it's it's good, clear conversation. 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: And how many of you even then, even today you're 154 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: saying to me, well, I put a thousand dollars worth 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: of parts in it, it still doesn't run. And I always 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: ask the question, did you check for real pressure? 157 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: No? 158 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Why not? I don't want to spend any money on diagnostics. 159 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: And I scratch my head because nothing's changed in almost 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: twenty years and probably almost thirty years. So you know, 161 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: do your due diligence, do your diagnostics. The answer will 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: come soon enough. You know. It's also how much money 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: do you want to throw at something without diagnosing it? 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: And that becomes an issue because the more money you 165 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: throw is you're throwing it out the window. In a 166 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of cases, you're wasting money without without some proper 167 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: steps to be made. So just I encourage you, I implore 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: of you diagnosed first, but get out to our YouTube 169 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: channel running ending of the card doctor, I guarantee you'll 170 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: like it. Tomorrow at three pm Eastern time, the video 171 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: of the Hyundai that was hard to fill the heart 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: to fill gas tank is going to post up. It's 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: set on automatic from the editors and you will see 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: at the very end look carefully at the underside of 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: the fuel fillernet where I show you the spider web 176 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: where the spider built the web to you know that, 177 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and that prevented the car from being gassed up. So 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: and then next week is the subrew. It's a little 179 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: bit of a light one. It's just a suber Brew. 180 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about a fifty thousand miles Suberu and the 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: rear differential fluid that's brown almost black in fifty thousand miles, 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: and you know the value in changing it. And that's 183 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: something you know, we don't really address a lot of too. 184 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Why are we changing all these fluids. Well, in the 185 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: case of this Subaru with the beat up oil that 186 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: you'll see in a week, keep in mind a lot 187 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: of the differentials today they're a court or less. There 188 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: are some transfer case units on some of these four 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: wheel drive vehicles, or a little over a pint. That's 190 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: all it is. It's just not a lot of fluid, 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and it just it just gets beat up something fierce. 192 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: It just can't hold up under the load. And you know, 193 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: just change the fluid, change me now, or change me later, 194 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: change the whole thing later. So it just makes the 195 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: case for maintenance that much more, that much more important. 196 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: So let me pull over, take the pause the phone 197 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: numbers eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 198 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna go right to the 199 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: garage doors and get them open. I'm ronning any in 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Don't go anywhere. 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: You'll have done. 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Anie in 203 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? 204 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: Right? 205 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, 206 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: Give r on a call. Now back to Rod. Let's 207 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: go up to Maine and let's see Dan with an 208 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: O six Toyota at Ta Coma. Dan, Welcome to the 209 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 210 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: Yes? Hi, Ron this time calling on long. 211 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Time listening, Thank you, thank you? What's going on? 212 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 213 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right? Two things. First of all, a few 214 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: weeks ago, I called in with the shuddering. 215 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: Problem with my motor on the twenty eighteen rat Flour 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: and I want to take a moment to thank you 217 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: very very very much because the problem has been solved 218 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: on the shuttering and it turns out that it needs 219 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: a trainee surface. When I drained the transition fluid, it was. 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: All black molasses, right, yeah, and so the end of the 221 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: package was worn out at that point. It does make 222 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: it shutter, absolutely, you know, absolutely, So the. 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: Thing is it got I'm sorry, the thing is it 224 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 5: got me confused because I thought it was a sealed 225 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: transmission and I'm just trying to think, well, how could 226 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: that transition. 227 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: Fluid get old or dirty if it's sealed kind of thing? 228 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know the transfluent. Listen, all missions are sealed, right, 229 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: We're trying to keep dirt and fluid and moisture and 230 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: contamin it out. But you know, during the course of operation, 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: there's heat build up. There's going to be condensation that 232 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: forms on the inside of the transmission case depending upon environment, 233 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, just listen. I've had engines sitting in cars 234 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: that were stored for six months that went from hot 235 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: to cold to hot, and you'll go to start them 236 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: up or pull a valve cover off and you'll find 237 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: globs droplets of oil like you know, water globs in 238 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: there just just moisture, just forms. The idea is though, 239 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: to see where I would be upset the manufacturer Toyota 240 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: in this case. If you go talk to them, they'll 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: tell you that Toyota trans fluid is lifetime. I don't 242 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: know whose lifetime it is. I always say it is 243 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: supposed to las, you know, so I don't get it. 244 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's let's just change the transfluid every sixty 245 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles like normal people, and it works. Right. You 246 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: didn't do your trans any good running it with black fluid. 247 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you that it probably would have would 248 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: last longer with regular changes and maintenance, which is why 249 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: we talk about it. So I'm sorry to your point. 250 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: Yes, all right. So the second thing, I want to 251 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 4: thank you very much for that. 252 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 253 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: You helped solve that problem. 254 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 255 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: So the second thing is, I have a sixteenth to 256 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: com out with eighty five thousand miles, and I'm getting 257 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 4: a violent sick whenever I step on the brakes, and 258 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: no it's not the rotors, because I've replaced the rotors 259 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 4: twice and it's still shaking violently whenever I step. 260 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: On the breaks. Okay, tell me about how it originally 261 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: started and when have you changed the rotors. 262 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: So originally started when the paths were worn out. So 263 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: I changed the paths and the rotors, right, and silly me, 264 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: when I installed the path I inadvertently installed paths the 265 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: wrong way, so the backing of the path was actually 266 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: scraping the rotor. So I end up buying another rotor 267 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: and the set of pads, and so after that's been changed, 268 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: then I get this shake as if like the rotor, 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: this warf to something. So I went out and bought 270 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: another set of rotors and the same symptoms. 271 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me, tell me what kind of well, tell 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: me this dan, the kind of the kind of rotor 273 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: that this is. Is it a captured rotor? Is there 274 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: a hub that sits on the inside of No, this 275 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: is a rotor. This is a hat style. It just 276 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: sits on the flanks. Right, It's a lift on, lift 277 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: off type of arrangement. 278 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: Correct, it's a hat style, that is correct. 279 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So when you took this, when you took this 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: rotor off and put the new one on. Did you 281 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: clean the mounting surface that the rotor sits. 282 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: Against as I could? I mean there was some rust 283 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: and I use a little scraper. Not as much as 284 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: I could. 285 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Okay. And then the next question would be the brand 286 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: of rotor that you used? Name brand something okay? Should 287 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: be okay? Did you did you happen to take the 288 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: rotor and try just taking a light cut to machine 289 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: it to see if it's warped or if you have 290 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: access to it. Can you dial indicate the rotor? Do 291 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean by that? 292 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: Yes? To mount? To dial indicate on the road? 293 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Is the break shake only there? 294 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: Well? 295 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Here? Wait minute? Is the break shake only there? When 296 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: you step on the brake? Is the shake only in 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: the wheel? When you step on the brake. 298 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: The shake is coming from the front. And when I 299 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: break moderately, that's when I feel it. 300 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 301 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: If I break lightly, I don't feel it all. 302 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Right, if you don't break it all do you feel it? 303 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: No? 304 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Okay? No speed, no speed at all, thirty five fifty five, 305 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: seventy five, et cetera. No shape. 306 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: Uh, well, it doesn't matter regardless of let's speed. But 307 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: as soon as I touched the break moderately, I get 308 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: this shake. Okay, Now I got a question for you. 309 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: Somebody in the farm told me that you got to 310 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: change the break fluid. I mean, I hardly believe that, 311 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: but that's why I wanted to ask you about it. 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Well, changing break break fluid, No, it's not, because it's 313 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: you're not changing the break fluid for the shake. All right. 314 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Let me let me unwind you a little bit here. 315 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, you're changing you're changing break fluid, dan because 316 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: break fluid, by nature, will absorb moisture. All right. If 317 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: you take a if you take a dixie cup and 318 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: fill it with break fluid and walk away from it 319 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: and come back in a year, it will have absorbed 320 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: three percent of its volume into moisture. All right. It's 321 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: just it's hygroscopic. That's the college word. It's it's it's 322 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: it's just the nature of the beast. Hello, puppy. So 323 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: so you know that's that's why you're changeing brake fluid. 324 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: You're changing brake fluid out of maintenance. You will find 325 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: that when you flush a brake system and remove fluid, 326 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: it will the system will work better because you're working 327 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: all the hydraulics fresh fluid. What does moisture do. Moisture 328 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: contaminates the system, It creates less positive hydraulic action. Right, 329 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: it's harder for the breaks to work. Breaks or break 330 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: breaks are hydraulic. So fresh fluid, fresh action, fresh fluid. 331 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: I've got a really great way of flushing breaks. And 332 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull over and take a pause in a second. 333 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: But before I let you go, we'll talk about it then. 334 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: But it's what I like where I think your problem is. 335 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: If this problem is only there when you step on 336 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: the brake, it's something in how it was assembled, or 337 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: it's the quality of the part. I would take those 338 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: old rotors, I would either dial indicate them looking for runout, 339 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: but you've got to clamp them in place using the 340 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: lug nuts, and then dial indicate it all right, both 341 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: both sides, front and back, and then the front end. 342 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Make sure there's nothing loose, there's no wiggle, there's no 343 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: warn loose parts, et cetera. Look at tire wear. How 344 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: does tire wear look sit tight? Danny, Hey, we'll ever 345 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: take the pause. When we come back, we'll talk a 346 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: little bit more in depth. I don't want to let 347 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: this one go. 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Dan, 366 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts here with regard to the pulsing break. 367 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things you could try is 368 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: and listen carefully to what I say, thirty miles down 369 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: the road, thirty miles an hour going down the road, 370 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: if you step on the break, does it start to shake? Yeah? Okay, 371 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: so thirty miles an hour going down the road, don't 372 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: step on the break gently g E n t L 373 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: Y apply the parking break to slow down. All right, 374 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: does the car shake? It probably won't, yeah, but not quickly. 375 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to do it fast. If 376 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: you do it fast, just you'll spin the back end around. 377 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: I might want to try this in a big empty 378 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: parking lot or a back road where there's nobody around. Okay, 379 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: it's just the idea that I will gently apply the 380 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: parking break if I don't feel excessive shake or anything 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: like what you're experiencing. I know it's clearly in the front. 382 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: I do this all the time. This is part of 383 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: my road test, all right. It's the idea, right, yeah, 384 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: it's the idea that listen, there's breaks in the back 385 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: of the car. The danger is, and let me spell 386 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: this out d A N G E ER. The danger 387 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: is if you apply the break too quick, like normal 388 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: transition time, like if you were to just pop on 389 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: the parking break on a vehicle moving at speed, it'll 390 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: spin the back end around. That's how they make a 391 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: one to eighty degree turn, all right, that's how law 392 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: enforcement does. That's the high speed maneuver to spin it around. 393 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, when it snows, which it'll 394 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: probably do next week up there in Maine, you know, 395 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: try it on an icy road somewhere, or an icy 396 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: parking lot where you've got plenty of room around you 397 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and see what happens. It's kind of exciting. It's how 398 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: I learned how to drive in the snow. So that 399 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: being said, just to make sure it's nothing at the back, 400 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You know. Then I want 401 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: to either dial indicate the front or I want to 402 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: take those front roders off and try machining them. Or 403 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: I want to die. And at the very least I 404 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: want to die. I want to dial indicate the front 405 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: hubs because something here is either bent, warped, or its 406 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: quality of part. There's not much else here. It's got 407 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: nothing to do with fluid. If it's not loose parts, 408 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: if it's not if it's not the quality of the 409 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: rotor itself, meaning that the rotor doesn't you know, the 410 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: rotor doesn't show you a warp when you machine it, 411 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: then I'm going to tell you it's it's the flanges 412 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: bent or the mounting surfaces uneven, or it's something in 413 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: the way you've assembled it and that's what's causing the 414 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: shake to happen. 415 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So you're not thinking maybe the caliber is bent 416 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: or anything. Right now, how. 417 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: Would a caliber be bent? Think about and I'm not 418 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: picking on you. Think about what you're saying time right, right. 419 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: If a caliber, if a caliber either squeezes or it 420 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: doesn't squeeze, If a caliber is stuck on, If a 421 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: caliber is stuck on, it's gonna make the vehicle do 422 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: what the right front caliber is stuck, what's gonna happen? Right? Correct? 423 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: All right? If the caliber is light, if the caliber 424 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: is lightly binding, what's it gonna do. It's gonna constantly 425 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: apply the break. It's gonna overheat and turn the road 426 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: or blue and maybe pull, but it's not gonna cause 427 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: a pulse. It's not gonna cause a pulse or a 428 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: shake and break application until the rotor has been so 429 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: severely overheated that it's warped or it's it's it's out 430 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: of square so to speak. Right, all right, so. 431 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: I got these rotors from NAPA. So I assume that 432 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: all these roaders should be perfect. But can you say 433 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: to say that some rotors can be. 434 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: Out of sure? Well, you know, I always I always 435 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: love to watch how the parts guys, not the parts guys, 436 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: but the delivery drivers handle rotors. You know, the you know, 437 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: it's a rotor is supposed to be laid flat, and 438 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: then they stack them on end, they throw them, they 439 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: drop them, they you know. Yeah, don't assume what you're 440 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: getting is a perfect product. Even with the best of care. 441 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: There's still some and there's some durability. I'm not saying 442 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: they're so completely fragile, but you know, we use a 443 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: particular brand of rotor. We use Dura Rotors d U 444 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: r A. In most of our applications we use Dura rotors. 445 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: They've been rock solid, knockwood. I haven't had to go 446 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: and machine any of them in quite a while now. 447 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: Uh. 448 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: But you know, when I'm when I'm tracking down this 449 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of particular problem, I don't rule out a problem 450 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: with a rotor. If I've had it happen to me twice, 451 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting curious. I am going to machine that rotor 452 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: or I'm going to indicate or I'm going to indicate 453 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: the flans and I'm looking for excessive run up beyond 454 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: three thousands. 455 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: All right, all right, So the only the only issue 456 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: is that they don't cut rotors anymore. There's nobody up 457 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: in actually cut rotors because the new metal they put 458 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 4: now and the rotors are already like light and it 459 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: can't be machined. 460 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Well. No, actually, the reason they don't cut rotors anymore 461 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: is because there's not enough metal in the roador to machine. 462 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: And most of the new roaders out of the box 463 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: have a nice cross hatch to them, right, They've got 464 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: a real nice polished cross hatch and that's for breaking 465 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: in the pad. So it's sort of it's sort of 466 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: self defeating to machine that cross hatch out of there. 467 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: There's other ways you can burnish and break the pad in, 468 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: but you know to do that on every job, which 469 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: is why we put the cross hatch. So we're back 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: to magnetic stand dial, indicate or change brand of rotor, 471 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: just try a different brand altogether and see what that 472 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: gets you. But very well, the mounting surface where that 473 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: hat rotor sits has to be clean. It absolutely has 474 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: to be spotless. 475 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: All right, Okay, I think I think I may miss that, 476 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: and I'll double check on that. All right, check on it. 477 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: So you got things to do, you let me know 478 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: you need more gain. You're very welcome but anytime, and 479 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: we're glad to be here for you. So, yes, sir, 480 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: absolutely all right. You know that's what auto repairs all about, folks. 481 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: It's covering the basics. It's going through the steps. Somebody 482 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: will say to me during the week, Hey, Ron, you 483 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: spend fifteen minutes with that guy. He needed fifteen minutes. 484 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: He's competent, he's able. He's never been taught. And that's 485 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: the difference, and that's the problem, and that's where we're 486 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: losing it. That's why you're seeing advanced autoparts closing five 487 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: hundred stores now because there's not many people working on 488 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: their cars either because they can't. It's too expensive, it's 489 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: too complicated. But they've never been taught. People become what 490 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: they're taught. People become what they've experienced and they value. 491 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: And since we stopped teaching high school shop classes, and 492 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go right there, since we stopped teaching 493 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: high school shop classes, so many years ago. It's coming 494 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: back to haunt us in that we're struggling now to 495 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: solve our own problems and troubleshoot and think fundamentally beyond 496 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: what the problem could be. So I give kudos to 497 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: a guy like Dan and to all of you that 498 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: are trying to fix and solve your own problems, because 499 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: that shows that shows forward thinking. Excellent. 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Or if we're doing a Wednesday 510 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Night with the Car Doctor, which we're going to do 511 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: this week between the hours of seven and nine Eastern time, 512 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 513 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: will record a message and we'll call you back and 514 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: put you in Q and you know, you just you know, 515 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: you get a phone call from a two to one 516 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: area code, so don't be surprised, So just be aware. 517 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Brian from Minnesota. Brian wrote in, 518 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: and Brian's a regular listener. We've talked to him over 519 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: the years. Ron Brian from Duluth. We've spoken on the 520 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: phone a couple of times. And I was a lucky 521 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: recipient of the dots in nissan z book. I remember that, 522 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: you know. As a matter of fact, I've got a 523 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: couple of books. I'm trying to clear out the price closet. 524 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of books. I've got the Chrysler 525 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: book on Plymouth Dodge Plymouth cards from the sixties. You know. 526 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: It's just there's so much stuff piled around the studio 527 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that I just I need room to maneuver. So we're 528 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna be giving those away in the coming weeks, I 529 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: think for the holidays. I got a couple of books 530 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: I want to I want to give out. You guys 531 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: will appreciate him. His question, Brian's question is I have 532 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: a question about my twenty fifteen GMC twenty five hundred HD. 533 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm close to two hundred and seventy five thousand, miles. 534 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: I believe I've maintained it well, well you got it 535 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: that far. The only thing I've replaced other than typical maintenance, oil, 536 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: spark plugs, et cetera. Is around one hundred ninety thousand miles. 537 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: The trans was replaced. My question is do you think 538 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: it would be a good idea to start changing out 539 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: components like alternator, water pump, et cetera. Before they fail. 540 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: Everything on the truck right now, other than the transmission 541 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: is original. The trucks looks like it has fifty thousand 542 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: miles on. It's in great shape, and I plan on 543 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: keeping and driving prayed for it in darn good truck. 544 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: I know what I have with this truck. Interested in 545 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: your opinion on replacing these item Thank you, Brian. You know, Brian, 546 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: here's the dilemma. I want to talk about the quality 547 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: of replacement parts. And you know, on the occasion, on 548 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the lucky occasion, when I get to sit down with 549 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: a parts engineer and talk to them about things like this, 550 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: here's the answer I typically get. Everything has a finite life, 551 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Everything has a life expectancy. They engineer and build into 552 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: components that you know, this will go one hundred thousand 553 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: miles or the life projection here is one hundred and 554 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles, or the life projection's fifty thousand miles. 555 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Because they can do that now, the engineers can run 556 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: tests that will allow them with certain degree of accuracy 557 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: how long a component will last. Your truck is nine 558 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: years going on ten years old with more than a 559 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: quarter million miles on it. If everything lasts to the 560 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand mile mark another two years, 561 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: let's say, because you're putting on a lot of miles. 562 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's assume you're going over the road, you're doing a 563 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: lot of over the road travels, and you're far from home, 564 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: you know the truck will be another two years or 565 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: three years older. I always think about quality of replacement parts. 566 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: You're right on the fuzzy edge of likely finding good 567 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: quality stuff before it gets filtered down and necked down 568 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: as I like to think of it, and funnel down 569 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: to the next level quality of builder or rebuilder. If 570 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: you can get an original GM starter, if you can 571 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: get an original GM alternator, original GM water pump, absolutely 572 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: I would listen my suburban. I tell this story all 573 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: the time, my suburban puke the transit fifty five thousand miles. 574 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: I was isn't lucky enough to get one ninety And 575 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: one thing led to another. It was a February going 576 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: back six years ago, almost seven years ago, where you 577 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: know transmission. The fuel lines running over the top of 578 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: the transmission were rotted fuel lines. The trans cooler lines 579 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: were replaced. That led me up to the radiator because 580 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: the lines were rusted there and the radiator was it 581 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: wasn't leaking, but you could see they were corroded. The 582 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: fittings became a radiator, became a water pump, became all 583 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: original hoses out of GM. And this is the stuff 584 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: you got to start to look for, Brian, because this 585 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: is the stuff that you know. It's one thing to 586 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: be stuck five hundred miles from home. It's another thing 587 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: to be stuck five hundred miles from home, and you've 588 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: got to take whatever parts you can get and maybe 589 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: do a substandard job, plus the aggravation of a hotel 590 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: room overnight and being late for wherever you're trying to 591 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: go because something broke. I think you've gotten reasonable life. 592 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: But before I just started randomly replacing, I would start 593 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: assembling my parts, you know, fuel pump, anything electrical, we 594 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: call it rotating electrical fuel pump, starter alternator. In the 595 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: old days it would be a distributor. Obviously, you don't 596 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: have that. The electronics, I'm not so worried about. The 597 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: electronics could be good for a half a million miles, 598 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: because that stuff is built that well these days. You know, 599 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: if you get a good one, and every once in 600 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: a while somebody gets a good one. You got a 601 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: good one there that you went that far, you know, 602 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: by all means all the fluids depending upon although you're 603 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: doing that as normal maintenance, but you know, radiator hoses, 604 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: water pump, overhaul, the cooling system, thermostat all good quality 605 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: GM stuff. You won't find a GM radiator anymore. I 606 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: really doubt it. I'm sure it's gone. But if you can, 607 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: great why not. And when you take the radiator out, 608 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: I would look carefully at the AC condenser all right, 609 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: ten years old. AC may not put you on the 610 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: side of the road when you're traveling, but it's going 611 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable and if you're going to be right there, 612 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: the grill is going to be off. You're doing the 613 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: radiator anyway, you might as well do a condenser as well. 614 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I think component repair on older high mileage vehicles and 615 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: looking at systems is a great way to maintain something 616 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: and drive it a good long time. I practice this 617 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: ideology myself. If this was the church or run, I 618 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: tell you that I've taken the Ranger to this sermon. 619 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: The Rangers got the little ninety seven Rangers got two 620 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven thousand miles on it still rolling. 621 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: The O four Suburban's gotten ninety five Suburban's got ninety 622 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: five thousand miles on it. Well, it took me twenty 623 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: years to get there. I remember when I got it new. 624 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: But you know, mileage doesn't scare me. Lack of maintenance. 625 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Will you want to make sure that you do it? 626 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: So I say do it, Brian, pull the plug, start 627 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: buying good parts, and start building the truck back out 628 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: from there. It's cheaper than replacing it. In this particular case, 629 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. I'll be back 630 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: to wrap it up right after this. And by the way, 631 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: before I forget, let's not forget the most amos one 632 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: of all that went three hundred and eighty five thousand miles. 633 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: Tom's escape. So cars can go the distance, well almost 634 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand. Uh, you know, it was somewhere in 635 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: that range, but it almost got the four hundred thousand, 636 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and then the frame started to rust away and break 637 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: and it became three two four. Really, I would have 638 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: pushed it the other I would have pushed it the 639 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: other let's see seventy six miles. Tom. I think I 640 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: was thinking of going for a ride to Albene that weekend, 641 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: but we had stuff going on. I couldn't. Yeah, that 642 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: would have been neat just to see it go four 643 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles. So who knows. Maybe the odometer would 644 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: have rolled around that it would have said, what are 645 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: you kidding me? But yeah, cars can go that far. 646 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a matter of style of driving 647 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: and maintenance and dedication to it. You know, cars are 648 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: like marriages, right, there's good moments, there's bad moments. You 649 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: got to kind of ride out the bumps a little 650 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: bit and decide if you're in it for the long haul. 651 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: So that's kind of prophetic. It'll make that ironism for 652 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: the new coffee cups. Ron I want to talk to 653 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you about my five Ford Explorer four to Oh, it's 654 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: got a code P one tho in it. The car 655 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: sat for a while. It recently had a used engine installed. 656 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I've got no check engine lights and it runs okay. 657 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: But I've got this P one thousand fold code on 658 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: my scanner. I read where you have to drive it? 659 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: Because THEBTBD two system checks not completed yet. It's been 660 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: driven about four hours so far. How do you how 661 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: far do you think I have to drive it? Any 662 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: diagnostics I have to do? This comes with from Tommy. Tommy, 663 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: the issue is it's not just that it has to 664 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: be driven. It has to be driven certain speeds and 665 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: style of driving. And OBD two drive cycle is a 666 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: compilation that the EPA mandated and updates from time to 667 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: time based on consumer or commuter driving habits. It's got 668 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: to go so many miles at speeds less than fifty 669 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: miles an hour, so many miles it speeds above fifty 670 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: miles an hour, typically fifty five to sixty two is 671 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: the sweet spot out on the highway. You know, if 672 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: everything is correct, it'll usually run monitors in roughly twenty 673 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: to thirty five minutes, but it also depends on temperature. 674 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: You want to look up and read about OBD two 675 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: drive cycle for your particular view. Try taking a look 676 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: at all that. If you don't have it all, do at 677 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: diy dot com. I'm on an ady in the card 678 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: doctor until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 679 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: See you