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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Billy Show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior,

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Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury Todds. A lucky coming to you, lie from Clearwater, Florida. Jim,

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Speaker 2: You and I are here today, Rubin celebrating today his

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Speaker 2: sixtieth birthday. Happy birthday, Rubin. So he is enjoying his

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Speaker 2: birthday today. We're giving the guy a day off so

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Speaker 2: he can celebrate, right, because we're good people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he deserves a day to celebrate. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: a rumor he's in Palm Springs, Palm Springs, California, playing golf.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure, you know, being that it's his birthday,

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Speaker 3: he'll get after it a little bit tonight and he

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Speaker 3: possibly could have one of these on his head.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy, if you're not watching on YouTube, Jim just panned

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Speaker 2: to the lampshade in his hotel down here in clear Water.

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Speaker 2: I'm still at the ballpark. Gym's at the hotel. But

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Speaker 2: we were both. We're both. We were both at the ballpark,

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Speaker 2: bright and early this morning. Clubhouse open at eight am. Gym.

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Speaker 2: It's always a fun day. First day of pitchers and catchers,

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Speaker 2: warm weather, sun was out. It's just great to be here,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you've been coming down for

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Speaker 2: a long time. I think this is my twenty second

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Speaker 2: spring training covering the Phillies, my twenty third season, but

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Speaker 2: twenty second spring That first day is always fun.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I remember, like I think back, like big spring training

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Speaker 2: moments to me to stick out. One was the first

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Speaker 2: day at camp in twenty ten, Roy Halliday throws his

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Speaker 2: first bullpen. I'm like, holy cramp, these guys got Roy Holiday.

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Speaker 2: And then the press conference when they got Bryce Harper

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Speaker 2: in February March of twenty nineteen. That that's a big

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Speaker 2: day that sticks out as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first day of spring training is it's kind

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Speaker 3: of always special. And this year, I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 3: face it, it's over shadowed a little bit because the Eagles

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Speaker 3: just won the Super Bowl, and all that matters right

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Speaker 3: now is the Eagles and you know, partying and enjoying

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Speaker 3: that Super Bowl victory, and they got a parade coming

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Speaker 3: up on Friday, right and I understand how you know,

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Speaker 3: that's where all the focus is. But the fact of

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Speaker 3: the matter is that the Phillies have reported pitchers and catchers,

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Speaker 3: and there's a number of regulars here and more will

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Speaker 3: continue to trickle in. But you know, they bent to

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Speaker 3: the postseason three years in a row, looking to make

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Speaker 3: it a fourth year in a row. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of excitement around this team. I mean, I know, the

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Speaker 3: first day of camp is always kind of that hope

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Speaker 3: springs eternal, and you know there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: years where it was just sort of lip service, but

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Speaker 3: not in you know, two thousand and eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 3: and eleven, and certainly not in two thousand and twenty two,

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Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty four, and here in twenty five. Those

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Speaker 3: you know, those all quality teams, great teams, and so

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Speaker 3: you know, this is where the journey begins and and

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Speaker 3: really the journey needs to get to one place, and

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Speaker 3: it's all they're going to settle for, and that's a

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Speaker 3: World Series Championship. It's what they want. And that starts

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Speaker 3: right at the top with John Middleton and his desires.

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Speaker 3: And he's not shy and articulating.

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Speaker 2: That, No, he's not. You know what's funny is you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the Eagles and you asked Rob Thompson today, you know,

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Speaker 2: did you maybe shoot fire off a text to Nick

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Speaker 2: Sirianni and and Rob said, yes, I did. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I just congratulated him on the win. He said, hey,

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Speaker 2: and Rob said this to us, He's like the city

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Speaker 2: is on fire right now. I think he meant figuratively,

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Speaker 2: not literally. Maybe there were some fires on Sunday, but

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Speaker 2: he said, I got the sense today that you know,

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Speaker 2: it's even fired up this squad, you know, this this organization,

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Speaker 2: just seeing the Eagles when they're like, oh man, let's

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Speaker 2: let's let's push this across the goal line. No pun

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Speaker 2: intended with the football talk, but you know, let's let's

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Speaker 2: win this. So Rob mentioned texting Nick Sirianni and you

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Speaker 2: and I talked a little bit today with John Middleton,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he was in New Orleans at the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl in Jeffrey Lorie's box. He said he was

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Speaker 2: he was going crazy and shearing just as hard as

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Speaker 2: any Eagles fan out there. And then he said something interesting.

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Speaker 2: What I thought it was really interesting is that he

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Speaker 2: finished the Eagles win the Super Bowl. He's leaving the

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Speaker 2: to his hotel, and he says he has tons of

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Speaker 2: Phillies fans coming up. To him, going now it's your turn. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's your turn. He's getting high five from everybody. Everybody

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Speaker 2: was so euphoric, and he said, yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, he was good talking about that.

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Speaker 3: He mentioned how if you couldn't be excited watching that game,

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Speaker 3: were not there, and we watched it and certainly was electric.

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Speaker 3: I can only imagine. I've been in a lot of

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Speaker 3: electric stadiums for World Series. I've been to Olympics and

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Speaker 3: lot of World Series and it's special when you're there

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Speaker 3: at a big game. And yeah, it was really cool to

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Speaker 3: hear John talking. You know, he you know some owners,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jeffrey Lawi is from Boston. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that the owner of the Sixes is from Philadelphia. But

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Speaker 3: what makes John unique in Philadelphia is he is a Philadelphian,

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Speaker 3: tried and true morn and race, and he is a

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Speaker 3: he is a Philadelphia sports fan. And when he, you know,

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Speaker 3: goes to an Eagles game, he doesn't go as John Middleton,

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Speaker 3: owner of the Phillies. He goes as John Middleton, Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: sports nut, and he actually was joking that he doesn't

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Speaker 3: know if he'll get invited back to Jeffrey Laurie's box

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Speaker 3: because maybe he was too excited. So but you know,

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Speaker 3: when fans are high five and I'm saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's your turn, that's that's the expectation. That's type of

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Speaker 3: roster they have built. Yeah, there are other good teams

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Speaker 3: out there. The Dodgers and the Yankees are going to

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Speaker 3: be good, and you got to play the one sixty

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Speaker 3: two and then you've got to perform in October. But

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Speaker 3: this is a team certainly capable of doing that, need

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Speaker 3: to play better than they have the last couple of Octobers.

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Speaker 3: But this is kind of you know, where it all starts,

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Speaker 3: and that is the expectation. You know, a World Series title,

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Speaker 3: and I'd rather have that than the many many springs

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Speaker 3: have come down here knowing that when they have their

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Speaker 3: and that's just lip service. Now you know that the

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Speaker 3: words mean something. So this is where the journey all begins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dave and John. Dave Dombrowski and John Milton

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Speaker 2: did kind of talk about the Dodgers a little bit

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Speaker 2: and the perception that, you know, can the Phillies keep

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Speaker 2: We're back before we get into kind of what we

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Speaker 2: saw today on the first day of camp. I want

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Speaker 2: to finish that thought on you know, Dave Nembrowski says

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Speaker 2: the all the time, he is like, you know, a

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Speaker 2: lot of times, Jimmy, know, you get like coaches and

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Speaker 2: anything out of anything. Dave actually says, I read everything,

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Speaker 2: so I know everything that's being said about this team.

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Speaker 2: And John being usually say had a hardcore Phillies fan

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Speaker 2: who goes into the stands during games. He was talking

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Speaker 2: He knows what they're saying, and they know that people

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Speaker 2: are saying about this team. How can you can't compete

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Speaker 2: with you can't hang with the Dodgers? How are you

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Speaker 2: going to compete with the Dodgers? You've taken step backs

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Speaker 2: each of the last two postseasons, from World Series to

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Speaker 2: just the regular season, but we hung with them last year.

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Speaker 2: We think we can hang with them again. And John

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Speaker 2: So they wanted to kind of make that point and

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Speaker 2: that I think they understand that this off season be goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: you didn't you didn't sign Jan Soda, you didn't sign

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Speaker 3: It's baseball. I hate to say it, it's cliche. Anything

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Speaker 3: can happen, exactly. They have the personnel to make anything happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is what happened. So you don't, you know, win

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Speaker 3: the job. Now, the Dodgers have great personnel on paper,

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Speaker 2: Like you said earlier, it all starts today. Today's the

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Speaker 2: first day of Phillies pictures and catchers. Man, you come

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Speaker 2: to the ballpark and it looks great, and then you

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Speaker 2: saw some pictures and we've heard the stories that you know,

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Speaker 2: they got hit really hard by the hurricanes last fall.

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Speaker 2: I mean water, you know, three feet four feet deep,

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Speaker 2: the whole first floor got destroyed. And man, but you

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Speaker 2: walked in today. They're still working on a lot of things,

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Speaker 2: but it looks great. I mean the clubhouse. They've redone

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Speaker 2: the art now, it looks I mean, it looks cool.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to go they have a big

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Speaker 2: cool p you know, our liberty bell I'm sorry, on

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Speaker 2: it looks it looks awesome.

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Speaker 3: LED lights and very modern lockers that are sort of

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Speaker 3: were times he would go down to Charlie's office and say, hey,

430
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Speaker 3: maybe we need to give up a day or Jimmy

431
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: a day or Ryan a day, and Charlie was like,

432
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: I ain't giving them no days. I'm riding him. Charlie

433
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: waited his whole life to have a team like that. Yes,

434
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: players like that, and he you know, you weren't going

435
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: to take away his toy on Christmas morning, he was

436
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: He's gonna play with that.

437
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you never know how it's gonna play out.

438
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, he did say he talked with jt uh

439
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: He you know, Rob again said, you know he's he's

440
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: talked with Alec Bohme several times, and he said that

441
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: I think it was to day maybe the coaches said, man,

442
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: he's got a great attitude. Bom is really upbeat, he's positive,

443
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's grown up more even more than

444
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: he has over the past few years. So he's like

445
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: he's excited to see what he can do. We haven't

446
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: talked to Bom yet. I'm really interested. We've talked about

447
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: that several times. What's he going to be like when

448
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: he talks to us? Is he going to set a tone?

449
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: What's his what's his mood going to be? Is he

450
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: going to joke about it? Is he going to be serious?

451
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: He can now content? You know, that's gonna be interesting. See,

452
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: but they said he seems to be in great spirits,

453
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: So hey, interesting.

454
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: Everybody's in great spirits on the first day of camp,

455
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: you know, the MRIs a clean, the era is all zero,

456
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: and the record everybody's tied for first place, So that's right.

457
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I think this team is

458
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: a lot of good things happening, and I almost part

459
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: of me can't wait to just forward right to October

460
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 3: and sees what happens. Part of me can't wait to

461
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: fast forward right to opening day right and and start

462
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: to countdown and start to start the journey because I

463
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: just feel like they have so many there's just not

464
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: a lot of questions right there.

465
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: There really is not many questions at all about this team,

466
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: Like what's the biggest what's the biggest roster question?

467
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: Right now?

468
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: It is gonna be the last bench bat Taiwan. Is

469
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Taywan Walker going to make the team? But you know,

470
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: that's that's really about it. The Rob said about the

471
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: last bench spot, they probably need a right handed bat

472
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: for that last spot because they're so left handed heavy

473
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: everywhere up and down the lineup. That would indicate Wes

474
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: Wilson has an inside track on that job. But then

475
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Rob also quickly said, but listen, we can't. You know,

476
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: Cody Clemens is out of options, and and then that

477
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: that could be a factor as well. Dave said that

478
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: could be a factor as well. So it's one kind

479
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: of roster ballot to watch the.

480
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: Spring, Yeah, and you watch, like for that job, somebody's

481
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: going to go out and have a on. They might

482
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: both have like like three guys unbelievable springs, and it

483
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: might come down right to the wire and two of

484
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: them hitting three forty and and and it's a really

485
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: hard decision because those guys are competitors and they want

486
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: to be part of this. They they've you know, come

487
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: up and down the last couple of years. They've chipped in,

488
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: they've had some big moments. When you have a team

489
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: this good capable of of having, you know, winning a

490
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: lot of ball games, and you've been part of success

491
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: in pockets in previous years. You want to be part

492
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: of the long term success. I guarantee you those guys

493
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: want it so bad. They want to be part of this.

494
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be part of this team. Another question,

495
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: backup Catcher. I mean, that's going to be a very

496
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: interesting battle. You know, there's a there is that X

497
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: factor about march On being out of options, they would

498
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: lose them where Garrett Stubbs has options. So that's part

499
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: of the calculus. But I fully expect to see both

500
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: guys having a really good spring.

501
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. A couple of the things that were men

502
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't brought up today that fans might be interested in

503
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: is Dave didn't really say anything about it, but he

504
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: was asked about contract extensions for JT, Real Muto, Kyle Schwarburn,

505
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: Rangers Swarez.

506
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: He didn't.

507
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: He says he doesn't like to discuss those publicly, but

508
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: they like all three players, and we'll see what happens.

509
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: I think you, Jim and we all agreed a few

510
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: weeks ago like the least likely guy to return would

511
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: be Ranger, and then JT and Kyle probably. You know,

512
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: I don't know one in one A. I don't know

513
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: how you would rank one in one A. But you

514
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: know that's not I don't know. Do you get a

515
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: sense that anything will happen early in spring unless it's

516
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: club friendly, really club friendly. Would would you be surprised?

517
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: I guess I would be surprised.

518
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: I think I would be surprised too. Nothing's going to

519
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: happen with Ranger. He's going to test it, oh for sure.

520
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: And you know, Schwarber's played so well. You know on'sak

521
00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: at one hundred and thirty home runs in three years,

522
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: three hundred RBIs he's played so well. And you know,

523
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: with that bat speed and the fact that he's DH

524
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: I think he could do that job for quite a

525
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: long time. Yeah, and he's played so well, he's not

526
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: going to be cheap. I don't know if there's a

527
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: team friendly short term type thing there when I think

528
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: you'll have a really healthy market. And JT is so

529
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: important in Shrover's so important so many elements. What he

530
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: does to the offense, but also the leadership he've rides

531
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: in that room is very, very valuable. He's been a

532
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: great signing for so many reasons, but so too has JT.

533
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean, his impact in his leadership and is the

534
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: way he leads that pitching staff and how important he

535
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: is in that clubhouse. There's so much to weigh with

536
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: both guys.

537
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna that will be interesting to see how

538
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: that unfolds, because they do need to keep both of

539
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: those guys, or you can make an argument that you know,

540
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: they should keep both of those guys. They don't have

541
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: anybody to step in in the system. Like it's not

542
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: like you have Logan o hop be in triple A

543
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: right now, going all right, well JT. Lee's a little

544
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: slide and Logan or Hoppy and he's gonna take over.

545
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: They don't have that guy right now. So you know,

546
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: there's there's those considerations as well. So what else happened

547
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: Jim that in our conversations today, anything else jump out

548
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: of you? We want to mention. John Milton said, uh,

549
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: let's see they can add payroll. They said we can

550
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: do what we Yeah, he said we can do what

551
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: we want to do because I asked him.

552
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: He said they could push the payroll. Yes, he says,

553
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: you have to weigh you know, if it's going to

554
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: inch you forward or move you significantly forward, that and

555
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: that that enters are you thinking? But if they need to,

556
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: They'll he said, they'll push the payroll, and I believe him.

557
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: I do.

558
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: He said, you know, they can do it, we can

559
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: do it, and I believe because I just think above all,

560
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: he wants to win.

561
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: So my my personal feeling, and because I'm sure fans

562
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: have been asking this, like, you know, Carlos estev has

563
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: signed with the Royals, right, I think it was that

564
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: a two year deal. I believe with the Royals, you

565
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: could say, well, why not bring back Carlos Estevez on

566
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: a two year deal. You can always use another elite

567
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: arm in the back end of the bullpen. In my opinion,

568
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: they feel like they have enough right now and they

569
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: would rather save that money for July when they know

570
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: that they definitely have a need for a particular spot,

571
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, instead of dropping twenty four million over the

572
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: next two years on Carlos estevas whatever it is that

573
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: he got, you wait and see, because what if Max

574
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: Kepler really struggles and you know they need some help

575
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: in the outfield, Well, now you have a little bit

576
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: of financial flexibility, or maybe push that money into the

577
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: left field spot or whatever they might be. Maybe God

578
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: for you know, crazier things have happened. Maybe need a

579
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: starting pitcher in July, that would be quite the thing,

580
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: but it's not out of the questions, so you save that.

581
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: So that's my opinion on why. You know, because because

582
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: Dave was asked today as well, you think there's some

583
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: free agents out there you think you're going to sign?

584
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Anybody said that would be surprised. I think the team

585
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: we have right now is a team we have, and

586
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: I think that's why they want to keep that money

587
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: available to spend in July when they know they need

588
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: something or have a better idea of what they need.

589
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's a sound strategy because you

590
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: have a good club, see what happens with it and

591
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: where you need to tweak and augment, go and tweak

592
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: and augment. I mean, Milton did say there were feels

593
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: that they tried to make starting at the trade dead

594
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: last year through this winter, that they just couldn't get

595
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: to the finish line, that the other team they thought

596
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 3: was being a little bit unreasonable and they just couldn't

597
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: pull it off. But I got to think one of

598
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: those might have been a left handed pitcher that ended

599
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: up in Boston.

600
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: So I think the Phillies thought that they were gonna

601
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: that they Yes, my understanding is that I think they

602
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: were a little surprised that they did not close that

603
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: deal for at Crochet. So they thought they made an

604
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: attractive package. Obviously, beauty is in the high eye of

605
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: the beholder. But the Phillies really like some of their

606
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: some of their prospects, and I think they were willing

607
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: to part with some of those guys.

608
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: And you know, and I don't think we can forget

609
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: if his bus Lozardo is healthy. There's a lot there.

610
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: There's like he's good in his upside there, he's still

611
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: getting better. I mean, you look at Zach Wheeler, he

612
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: got better when he came here. You know, Ranger Suarez

613
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: has developed here. I know he had a tough second

614
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: half last year, but I'm interested. You know, Christopher Sanchez.

615
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: Really blosts developed here.

616
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what Lozardo can do surrounded by

617
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: the rest of this, you know, pitching staff. They kind

618
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: of feed off each other. I'm interested to see what

619
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: he can do with the Phillies pitching program, their instructors,

620
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: their analytics, and all the things that go into trying

621
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: to help a pitch get better. So this narrative that

622
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: they didn't do much and they didn't do anything. You know,

623
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: they did not do as much as they did in

624
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: previous years in terms of sexy headline grabbing moves. Right,

625
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: Wizzarto could be an awfully nice pickup. Romanto could be

626
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: an awfully nice pickup.

627
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: Time will tell, Yeah, I think well. I was looking

628
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: at the Fangrafts projected win totals this year, and I

629
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: think the Phillies were fourth in Baseball's Dodgers, Braves, Yankees, Phillies.

630
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: You know, who knows how they figure out that. So

631
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: I think probably the Braves are thinking Acoon is back,

632
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: and Strider's back, and Rutley's back and all those guys.

633
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: But they're projected to be one of the best teams

634
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: in baseball. You get into the tenement and right you

635
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: have a chance to win. Come on, get hot, you know,

636
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: like you said as being the other show, the two

637
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: thousand and eight Phillies weren't the best team in baseball,

638
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: but they got hot at the right time time.

639
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: And when you get hot, you don't grip the bad

640
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: handle too tight. You play nice and free and easy.

641
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: And when when you're good and you fall behind and

642
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: you start gripping the bad handle and you get anxious,

643
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: none of your good stuff comes out. Yeah, and we've

644
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: seen it in the last two years.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of two thousand and eight, Col Hamiles in camp

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Speaker 2: looks like he can still pitch.

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Speaker 3: Does man?

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Speaker 2: He does right.

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Speaker 3: When i'd like to look, I'd like to look like

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Speaker 3: coal Hammles and have his resume for about one Friday night,

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Speaker 3: exactly exactly right.

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Speaker 2: I came into the camp and the worst shape of

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Speaker 2: my life. I am so out of shape. I told

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Speaker 2: my wife said, I am going to try to work

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Speaker 2: out down here. I didn't do it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I got in late.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do this morning because the clubhouse opened early today.

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow, Jim, hold.

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Speaker 3: Me to it, You're gonna work out before work.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to get up really early tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and do a workout. It's going to be ugly, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to move my body, slow movements.

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Speaker 3: If you work really hard, you might be able to

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Speaker 3: get one of these.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, got the guns. You know, I'm so out

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Speaker 2: of shape. So when my son the bus stop, my

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Speaker 2: son gets dropped off. It's about I mean, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: like fifty yards for my house, seventy five douars. I'll go,

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Speaker 2: I'll go down there. And he comes off and he's

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Speaker 2: got this backpack it's like seventy five pounds, and he's like,

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Speaker 2: he's like, take my backpack, and he's like, I'll race you.

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Speaker 2: I swear the guy. I almost blew out my quad

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago racing my son. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: holy crap, what am I doing with myself? I got

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Speaker 2: to get in.

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Speaker 3: Shape, man. Exactly.

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Speaker 2: It was one hundred years old yesterday for one hundred

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Speaker 2: days of school. So uh but yeah, I got to

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Speaker 2: get in shape, man. That's my goal this spring. That's

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Speaker 2: my spring training goal.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe? Talked for thirty four minutes and Reuben's

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Speaker 3: out here.

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Speaker 2: We did it. We did a pod without Rubio. Happy birthday, Ruben.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your sixtieth wherever you are, and I think California, right, California,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back. We're gonna be Jim and I

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Speaker 2: are down here. I'm down here most of the spring.

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Speaker 2: Gym's down here for a couple of weeks where like

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Speaker 2: I said, and you might be back in March. Ruben's

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Speaker 2: gonna be down here, off and on, so We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have lots of podcasts, lots of shows all spring long.

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Speaker 2: It'll be fun, it.

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Speaker 3: Will be and until the next time, I will smell

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Speaker 3: you later, Buddy.

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