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Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome to the Dail show our Michael Cossa.
Speaker 5: We've got so much to talk about tonight. Your tattoo
Speaker 5: might ruin your life. Corey Booker won't show it up,
Speaker 5: won't shut up in a good way. And Donald Trump
Speaker 5: pledges to respect the Constitution.
Speaker 1: April fools, he still doesn't care. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come.
Speaker 5: The second administration is off to a roaring start if
Speaker 5: you don't count the economy, inflation, rampant corruption, cyber bullying
Speaker 5: of ally nations, and we're all going to die of measles.
Speaker 5: So it makes sense that on Sunday he said he's
Speaker 5: considering running for a third term. But of course the
Speaker 5: liberal media is freeking out new fallout after President Trump
Speaker 5: did not rule out the possibility of a third term.
Speaker 6: A move that would require breaching the two term limit
Speaker 6: outlined in the Constitution. Carolyn, what methodol the President used
Speaker 6: to potentially run for a third time? Look, you guys,
Speaker 6: continue to ask the president this question about a third.
Speaker 2: Term, and then he answers honestly and candidly with a smile,
Speaker 2: and then everybody here melts down about his answer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, right, Obviously this is the media's fault. Okay,
Speaker 5: if they ask the president a question, of course he's
Speaker 5: going to give you a deranged answer.
Speaker 1: He's he's the president.
Speaker 5: What do you expect him to say, No, I'm constitutionally barred.
Speaker 1: From running again. Come on, the guy's just having a
Speaker 1: good time his fellow Republicans.
Speaker 5: No, nobody gets comedy like the Republicans.
Speaker 3: He's probably controlling.
Speaker 7: I think he's probably just having some fun with it,
Speaker 7: probably messing with him.
Speaker 5: This is a president who loves to give a snake
Speaker 5: in a can to a media.
Speaker 1: Just to watch them open it, and he's he's doing that.
Speaker 8: This is another jump scare that has just lit up
Speaker 8: the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, reless.
Speaker 5: The president of the most powerful nation in the world
Speaker 5: is just he's in his Dennis the Menace phase. The
Speaker 5: point is everybody knows he's joking. Trump isn't serious about
Speaker 5: a potential third term.
Speaker 9: Trump insisted he was serious about a potential third term.
Speaker 10: Trump said, I'm not joking, I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: No, no, that can mean anything. That can mean anything.
Speaker 5: Look, the truth is Trump doesn't really joke so much
Speaker 5: as he jokes, right the same way that guys joke
Speaker 5: to their wives about having a threesome. You know, that
Speaker 5: would be so wild. Obviously we never do that. I
Speaker 5: mean definitely not with my coworker Cindy. That you said
Speaker 5: was pretty ones And I'm sure she's open to stuff
Speaker 5: because her noses pierced.
Speaker 1: That would be so hilarious, right or or would it
Speaker 1: be sexy?
Speaker 5: Personally, I'm not freaking out that Trump is going to
Speaker 5: defy the Constitution because he's already been doing it for
Speaker 5: weeks now. ICE has been rounding up any immigrant who
Speaker 5: they suspect is a member of the Venezuelan gang train,
Speaker 5: the Arragua, or as Trump pronounces.
Speaker 1: It, trendy arguay. We been signor presidente.
Speaker 5: But this week we found out that instead of sending
Speaker 5: these suspects to a trial or hearing, you know, all
Speaker 5: the due process shit in the Constitution, the ICE agents
Speaker 5: just fill out a checklist on the suspect, and if
Speaker 5: the suspect scores an eight or more, they get deported
Speaker 5: to an El Salvadoran prison.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not a legal expert, but I'd rather not
Speaker 5: be sentenced to life in a foreign prison with the
Speaker 5: same checklist system that Cosmo uses to decide if I'm
Speaker 5: good girl hot or.
Speaker 1: Bad girl hot. By the way, I'm bad girl hot.
Speaker 5: And reading through the checklist doesn't make me feel any
Speaker 5: better either. You get points just for having a tattoo
Speaker 5: of a star, or a clock or the Michael Jordan logo.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be a tattoo.
Speaker 5: You could just get points for wearing a bull's jersey.
Speaker 5: So have fun in prison, Hannah Montana, if that's even
Speaker 5: your real name. But hey, I'm sure the famously detail
Speaker 5: or oriented Trump administration isn't going to deport people without
Speaker 5: making sure they're hardened criminals.
Speaker 1: Right right, right.
Speaker 10: The Trump administration now admitting that a Maryland father from
Speaker 10: El Salvador was mistakenly deported to a super prison. Government
Speaker 10: lawyers just confirmed that the man who was granted protected
Speaker 10: status in twenty nineteen was deported due to quote an
Speaker 10: administrative error.
Speaker 5: Oopsie, doopsie, I did a poopsie. Could it be that
Speaker 5: the geniuses who added Jeffrey Goldberg to the strike team
Speaker 5: group chat aren't great at identifying the correct people. If
Speaker 5: only there is a way that they could have presented
Speaker 5: this suspect before another person, someone who I don't know
Speaker 5: and I'm just spitballing, maybe could have judged whether or
Speaker 5: not the person could have been deported. Maybe that person
Speaker 5: I don't know could be behind a tall desk and
Speaker 5: they hold a stick and with a robe, and they're
Speaker 5: federally appointed, and they say things like another, do ui,
Speaker 5: mister Costa.
Speaker 1: I'd put you in prison, but you're too bad girl.
Speaker 3: Hot, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, let's just let's just do another checklist. Thank you
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 5: But hey, hey, hey, no harm, no foul. We can
Speaker 5: just get that guy back on the next flight, right
Speaker 5: right right.
Speaker 8: But here's the thing.
Speaker 10: The administration argues he can't be brought back because now
Speaker 10: he's in l Salvador's custody.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, what are you talking about.
Speaker 5: We can't get one person out of a prison that
Speaker 5: we sent to that prison. Jd Vance is out there
Speaker 5: calling dibbs on rare earth minerals underneath Greenland and Ukraine.
Speaker 1: But with El.
Speaker 5: Salvador, suddenly they're like, hey, sorry, no Ablo Espanol.
Speaker 1: Trump don't you speak Spanish? Trendy argyle, tremendios.
Speaker 5: Seeing all these constitutional crises pile up, it makes me
Speaker 5: wonder what sort of evil machinations Donald Trump is playing
Speaker 5: inside the Oval Office right now.
Speaker 11: A friend of mine, Kid Rock, sometimes referred to as Bob.
Speaker 11: I know hims Bob, but he's been a good friend
Speaker 11: for a long time, many years, and he's been after
Speaker 11: something that is for the good of a lot of people.
Speaker 5: Ugh, mister President, I don't mean to alarm you, but
Speaker 5: the guy next to you, he's scoring a lot of
Speaker 5: points on.
Speaker 1: That checklist right now.
Speaker 5: For more on the ice raids, Let's go to the
Speaker 5: White House with our very own Josh Johnson. Josh, Josh,
Speaker 5: what Trump is doing right now is disturbing.
Speaker 7: That's absolutely right, Michael, and we can't stand for this.
Speaker 7: The American people need to get out in the streets
Speaker 7: right now and let Donald Trump know that there's a
Speaker 7: nation of rules and laws and the American people will
Speaker 7: not allow him to hang out in the Opal Office
Speaker 7: with Kid Rock.
Speaker 5: Oh, I thought that speech was going to be about
Speaker 5: the mass deportations.
Speaker 7: No, No, at this point, I'm sort of resigned to that.
Speaker 7: But he's going to be a dictator? Can he at
Speaker 7: least be a serious one when the history books get
Speaker 7: written about the fall of American democracy?
Speaker 1: I just don't want to look like a bitch. Okay.
Speaker 7: If I'm gonna get my nipples tasered off and in
Speaker 7: a now Salvador in prison, it can't be by a
Speaker 7: guy who looks like Ronald McDonald's lesbian on. All right,
Speaker 7: that's not how I want to go out.
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't think the Ice raids are coming for you, Josh, you.
Speaker 8: Don't know that.
Speaker 7: You saw that checklist. They're looking for Jordan's tattoos? Sound
Speaker 7: like anybody you know?
Speaker 1: Michael? Oh, oh wait, you have toutos?
Speaker 7: Yep, I got a couple of nasty ones.
Speaker 1: Oh really, well can we see him?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 7: I can't show you all of them because a few
Speaker 7: are near and on my butthole. But but here's what
Speaker 7: I'm worried about. Okay, who knows how Ice could interpret
Speaker 7: this tattoo?
Speaker 1: What does that say?
Speaker 3: Fight song?
Speaker 1: From a song?
Speaker 3: Fight song?
Speaker 7: It could be conceived as a threat, you know, fight song?
Speaker 1: Why did you get that tattoo?
Speaker 7: Because it's not just an anthem for white women. All Right,
Speaker 7: everybody's got to fight song and fight song is my
Speaker 7: fight song. Take back my life song, prove I'm all right.
Speaker 5: Josh stop job, Josh, Josh stop stop stop stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not even ready.
Speaker 3: Imagine we were fighting right now.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: I just don't think Ice is going to confuse that
Speaker 5: for a gang tattoo.
Speaker 1: It's not gag, I said. I said, gang, not gay.
Speaker 7: Oh well good, you know, show you my butthole tattoo
Speaker 7: then we'll see who's gang.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, what does that even mean?
Speaker 7: It means if my fight song tattoo doesn't get me,
Speaker 7: this one definitely will. It's a firework. They're gonna think
Speaker 7: I'm a domestic terrorist over here, blow this whole thing up,
Speaker 7: kill everybody, body, pieces everywhere.
Speaker 5: Let me guess it's actually from Katy Perry's song Firework.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty much my backup fight song. It reminds
Speaker 7: me that baby, I'm a firework, and I gotta show
Speaker 7: him what.
Speaker 1: Okay, we get we get we get it, we get it,
Speaker 1: we get it. Josh Johnson. Everyone, well, we come back.
Speaker 12: Charlomagne, the God will give us his opinions that don't
Speaker 12: go away. Josh, welcome back, Fladero, show we all know
Speaker 12: that I've got great opinions, but I'm not the only one.
Speaker 5: Studies show that other people also have opinions. So here
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Speaker 9: Senator Corey Booker has been leading a marathon speech on
Speaker 9: the Senate floor to protest what he calls reckless actions
Speaker 9: by the Trump administration. Booker began his speech around seven
Speaker 9: o'clock last night.
Speaker 7: I rise with the intention of disrupting the normal business
Speaker 7: of the United States Senate for as long as I
Speaker 7: am physically able.
Speaker 5: New Jersey Senator Corey Booker is still talking on the
Speaker 5: Senate floor. His marathon speech has now reached the twenty
Speaker 5: two hour mark.
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable.
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, yes, yes, a Democrat actually doing something.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 13: I mean wow, that's the longest someone's held Congress.
Speaker 3: Captain since January sixth.
Speaker 13: I mean yeah, I mean so far, he's only talking,
Speaker 13: but he's talking a lot, so I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 13: What Booker did today is like the political version of
Speaker 13: phone sex. It's not as good as the real thing,
Speaker 13: but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing right,
Speaker 13: and nothing is what it seems like the Democratic Party
Speaker 13: has been doing for the last three months. The Democrats
Speaker 13: are like Jason Momoa in between Aquaman movies, not in
Speaker 13: good shape.
Speaker 1: Disarray among the Dems.
Speaker 10: New CNN poll League show with the party's favorability hitting
Speaker 10: a record low of twenty nine percent.
Speaker 13: Twenty nine percent that's lower in ptex, that's blood alcohol level. Right,
Speaker 13: Democrats are about as popular as an album of RFK
Speaker 13: Junior covering Adell.
Speaker 3: Like I said, fire to my brain. Isn't there anyone
Speaker 3: who can save this party?
Speaker 8: NBC News is reporting with the Biden's want back in.
Speaker 13: Isn't there anybody else who can save this party? Look,
Speaker 13: I know there are some people that think Joe Biden
Speaker 13: should help rebuild because as the most recent president, he
Speaker 13: is the de facto leader of a party. And to
Speaker 13: those people, I'd like to say, Hunter, lay off the crack. Okay,
Speaker 13: I thought Biden was an okay president. It's not his fault.
Speaker 13: His brain reached his term limit before he did. But
Speaker 13: he's not the future of the party. So who's supposed
Speaker 13: to be the leaders? Well, in Congress, you've got two people.
Speaker 13: The first one is this guy, House Minority Leader, Hakim Jeffers.
Speaker 14: In America, we don't have a king, we don't have
Speaker 14: a monarch, we don't have a dictator.
Speaker 3: In our democracy.
Speaker 14: We have separate and coequal branches of government.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm not feeling too inspired by business. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 13: not too inspired by business.
Speaker 3: Casual Morpheus.
Speaker 13: Okay, you take the blue pill, nothing changes. You take
Speaker 13: the rent pill, nothing changes. But with Terry Flavor and
Speaker 13: pay leth Obama's counterpart in the Senate, he's somehow even
Speaker 13: less inspiring.
Speaker 14: It's going to affect beer. Okay, most of it Corona
Speaker 14: here comes from Mexico. It's going to affect your guac
Speaker 14: because what is guacamole made of avocados?
Speaker 3: Suma is not the man with a plan to fight Trump.
Speaker 13: Shit, He ain't the man with a planned for a
Speaker 13: good single to my own. It's not my job to
Speaker 13: say that any particular candidates need to be primaried and
Speaker 13: thrown out of office.
Speaker 8: But Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schuman need to.
Speaker 13: Be primaried and thrown out of office. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 13: maybe democratic leaders in Congress, ain't it. What if we
Speaker 13: look outside of Washington to the governors. Gavin Noose from California,
Speaker 13: he's been getting active lately.
Speaker 3: What's this fight plan?
Speaker 1: We need to change the conversation.
Speaker 13: And that's why I'm launching a new podcast, and this
Speaker 13: is gonna be anything but the ordinary politician podcast. I
Speaker 13: don't believe you. Your body doesn't even believe the.
Speaker 3: Words you're saying. None of your words match your motion.
Speaker 3: Like Gavin just feels.
Speaker 13: Phony, all right, feels less like you're going to lead
Speaker 13: a revolution and more like you're gonna sell me pills
Speaker 13: for natural mail announcement.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Fortunately, there are people on the left really willing to
Speaker 13: put up a fight, though the Republicans have actually organized
Speaker 13: this booby hearings try to convince the American people that
Speaker 13: PBS and NPR are quote, domestic threats.
Speaker 8: It's as stupid as it sounds.
Speaker 13: I would tell him to grow a spine and stop
Speaker 13: being putin's hoe.
Speaker 10: If you could speak directly to Elon Musk, what would
Speaker 10: you say, Oh, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, that's right. That was the homie.
Speaker 13: Jasmin Crockett, a US representative and social justice warrior with
Speaker 13: less filter than a pall mall. Okay, she did get
Speaker 13: into a little trouble for some recent comments about the
Speaker 13: Texas Governor Greg Abbott. And to appreciate this next clip,
Speaker 13: all you need to know is he's a far right
Speaker 13: bigot who happens to use a wheelchair.
Speaker 9: We in these hot ass Texas streets.
Speaker 7: Honey, y'all know we got governor hot wheels down there.
Speaker 8: Come on now, and the.
Speaker 7: Only thing hot about him is that he is a
Speaker 7: hot ass mess.
Speaker 13: Hey man, When they go low, Jasmine slashes the tires
Speaker 13: on their wheelchairs.
Speaker 3: Okay, and you know Republicans are scared.
Speaker 13: Of Democrats stupid to that level because Conservatives were big
Speaker 13: fake men.
Speaker 9: Jasmine Crockett stoops to a new low, pretty disgusting.
Speaker 10: Spicker Johnson saying this quote, These outrageous remarks by Crockett
Speaker 10: are shameful and completely out of line.
Speaker 1: She's a low life and she's a very low IQ person.
Speaker 13: Excuse me, Donald Trump is gonna lecture someone about tasteless jokes.
Speaker 13: Maga complaining that a Democrat is ablest is like Quentin
Speaker 13: Tarantino telling me I use the N word too much.
Speaker 3: Nigga polease.
Speaker 13: Okay, I'm not saying democrats need to be offensive like
Speaker 13: Trump is just show any kind of authenticity and fight,
Speaker 13: all right. That's why people are sharing Corey Book.
Speaker 3: Of the Day.
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, And that's why Bernie sanded in AOC are
Speaker 13: turning out huge crowd at rallies all across the country. Yes,
Speaker 13: I just hope it's enough, because right now the Democratic
Speaker 13: Party brand is so whack it almost doesn't matter who
Speaker 13: runs a d beside their name makes even great candidates
Speaker 13: seem bad. Voters are like a college student halfway through
Speaker 13: her first she had bren mar.
Speaker 3: She just doesn't want that d no mode.
Speaker 13: Okay, Democrats just need to fight back. And whether that
Speaker 13: looks like Philip bus ring on the Senate floor rattling
Speaker 13: across the country are getting in a roast battle with
Speaker 13: a wheelchair bound senior citizen, you gotta take that fight.
Speaker 3: But that's just my opinion.
Speaker 12: Charley mcgona, We come back, Gianna Favoni, Will Joan Basau
Speaker 12: Let's welcome back to the Danis Show. Hi Death Tonight
Speaker 12: is an Emmy winning journalist whose new book is called
Speaker 12: The Volunteer.
Speaker 5: The Failure of the Death Penalty in America and One
Speaker 5: Inmates Quest to Die with Dignity.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Gianna Chaboni Wow, wow, Wow, what a book.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much work, so serious, so important, so sad.
Speaker 5: Why is the death penalty not working in the United States?
Speaker 8: Look, I think there are a lot of reasons. I
Speaker 8: wrote a book on it.
Speaker 6: Next question, no, no, no, look at the fundamentally broken
Speaker 6: system first. And you don't usually hear these arguments, right,
Speaker 6: we usually lead with the moral arguments in media. But
Speaker 6: I took a different approach of the two thousand death
Speaker 6: row inmates that we have in our country on the
Speaker 6: state level, right, different from the Luigi Mangioni federal death row.
Speaker 6: Only fifteen percent are getting executed, right. The forty nine
Speaker 6: point nine percent those cases are overturned, right, and then
Speaker 6: you have cases that are commuted. You have you know,
Speaker 6: people dying of old age on death row. So at
Speaker 6: fifteen percent completion rate, I mean, think about that in
Speaker 6: any other industry, right, Like a surgeon completes fifteen percent
Speaker 6: of surgeries, right, a contractor completes fifteen percent of It's
Speaker 6: totally unexpened right for contractors.
Speaker 5: But that is a terrible rate of efficacy. And it
Speaker 5: kind of leads to the subject of this book and
Speaker 5: why you reached out to him. Scott Doser, who was
Speaker 5: convicted of murdering two people. Why did you initially write
Speaker 5: him a letter to be the subject of this?
Speaker 6: So I was making a documentary for a show called
Speaker 6: Vice on HBO, and I needed an interview with the
Speaker 6: death row inmate, right. I wasn't trying to do anything
Speaker 6: beyond that one interview. Wrote him a letter, didn't know
Speaker 6: if I'd hear back. And then I got a call,
Speaker 6: you know, Elien Nevada. I was like, okay, this this
Speaker 6: is zim right, and we started chat you know, and
Speaker 6: from the first few minutes of that conversation, I understood
Speaker 6: that this guy was different. For one, he was completely unsympathetic.
Speaker 6: He was a violent offender, as you said, he was
Speaker 6: convicted of two murders. But he was also volunteering for
Speaker 6: execution right right. Only ten percent of inmates volunteer for execution.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 8: So he wrote the judge a letter and he said,
Speaker 8: let's get this over with.
Speaker 1: But they're already sentenced to death.
Speaker 6: A lot of these states don't carry out these sentences, right,
Speaker 6: So the Attorney General's office has to pursue that, and
Speaker 6: the judge has to sign a warrant and then they
Speaker 6: scheduled the execution, and then the prison chief has to
Speaker 6: find the drugs or the method that they're going to
Speaker 6: use to execute this guy.
Speaker 1: And he actually said, and you have the letter his handwriting.
Speaker 1: It's very moving.
Speaker 5: He says, I Scott dojer requesting execute me? Yes, And
Speaker 5: at one point I think he even calls the government
Speaker 5: a bunch of pussies.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he didn't vince words like if.
Speaker 1: You're going to sentence me this way, then do it.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 5: It's hard not to sympathize with him a little bit
Speaker 5: in that regard, talk about some of the complexities of
Speaker 5: actually killing someone on death row when it comes to
Speaker 5: the drugs and the method.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, in the past, we had kind of
Speaker 6: simple but very gruesome methods, right like burning, boiling, guillotine, hanging,
Speaker 6: electric chair, and then we sort of kind of sanitized
Speaker 6: the death penalty in part to get the public on
Speaker 6: board with it.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: Public approval ratings just dived, right, and so we legalized
Speaker 6: lethal injection, and the idea was that we would make
Speaker 6: it more humane.
Speaker 8: Well, what we've learned is that it is not more humane.
Speaker 6: That's what a lot of expert witnesses antesesiologists have have
Speaker 6: told us about this method, not to mention you have
Speaker 6: to source all these drugs. Turns out drug companies like
Speaker 6: Pfizer don't want their drugs used in executions, right They
Speaker 6: want to create the cancer cure or the you know,
Speaker 6: the next big vaccine. They don't want to be known
Speaker 6: as supplying the death drugs. So it's been incredibly hard
Speaker 6: for states to source these drugs.
Speaker 5: Is Pfizer not wanting to give drugs for lethal injection
Speaker 5: because well, yeah, they don't want to be associated with executions,
Speaker 5: but also it could affect their profit margin for giving
Speaker 5: more people the drugs that actually need them.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's I guess a sourcing issue in the
Speaker 6: sense that you know, if these drugs are used for
Speaker 6: execution and you pull them off the market in order
Speaker 6: to get prisons not to use them. So so dim
Speaker 6: thiopental this is a drug that was used in executions
Speaker 6: for years. When you know drug companies really don't want
Speaker 6: them used, sometimes they pull them from the market, and
Speaker 6: then you know, patients who actually need the drugs won't
Speaker 6: get access to them.
Speaker 5: This is going to be a strange metaphor, but it
Speaker 5: reminds me of dog food for my dog. We make it,
Speaker 5: so it's palatable for me as the human. I don't
Speaker 5: think my dog wants to eat this little like brown pelle.
Speaker 5: He wants to eat sloppy, messy, disgusting food that his
Speaker 5: DNA is telling.
Speaker 1: But we've made execution palatable for me and you and us.
Speaker 5: But it isn't effective and wasn't at one point Scott
Speaker 5: Dozer saying shoot me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean his ideal me with a gun.
Speaker 1: I mean exactly where Americans are good at that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And by the way, finding a cowboy, a gun, and
Speaker 8: a bullet all things that are not hard to come
Speaker 8: by in America.
Speaker 5: Certainly the gun lobbies aren't going to say you better
Speaker 5: not use that for an execution.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And there's never a shortage of volunteers.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you still talked about you mentioned that in
Speaker 1: the book That's Wild.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean you have the former warden of Florida State
Speaker 6: Prison who oversaw a bunch of executions. He said that
Speaker 6: you would get letters, thousands of letters, people saying hey,
Speaker 6: if you need a volunteer to do the firing squad
Speaker 6: or to partake in the execution, right I'm here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even have thousands of Instagram followers.
Speaker 5: We can work on that work, maybe, Yeah, And there
Speaker 5: was just an execution by firing squad in South Carolina
Speaker 5: line and so are more inmates volunteering?
Speaker 1: Is I mean you said it's about ten percent that
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so not volunteering.
Speaker 6: But what they're doing is they recognize that lethal injection
Speaker 6: is a more humane method or doesn't cause less suffering.
Speaker 8: In fact, it can cause more suffering.
Speaker 6: You know, it makes understand that now, and so now
Speaker 6: they're actually opting for methods like firing squad. Right, So,
Speaker 6: lethal injection has a seven percent rate of botched executions.
Speaker 6: Firing squad that rate is effectively zero.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is wild to think about.
Speaker 5: And one of the things I love about the book
Speaker 5: is I'm thinking and debating a very serious topic that
Speaker 5: I try to avoid.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about this stuff.
Speaker 5: A firing squad, they put a bag over the person's head,
Speaker 5: they put a target on his heart, and five people
Speaker 5: have guns.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's like, in a way, maybe, and I.
Speaker 5: Think this was made in one of the vice pieces
Speaker 5: at this point, in a way, maybe we should make
Speaker 5: it more brutal, so we as citizens can decide, do
Speaker 5: we really want to do this.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, execution is brutal, you know, killing our
Speaker 6: own is brutal. And the way we've whitewashed, you know,
Speaker 6: this method of execution, it's all kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 8: You know, and firing squad.
Speaker 6: I think that if we went back to that method,
Speaker 6: I think the public may start to second guess what
Speaker 6: their tolerance is for killing their own.
Speaker 8: What.
Speaker 5: There's so many people affected when an execution needs to
Speaker 5: take place, and that's one thing the book just illuminated
Speaker 5: to me so much. There's the prison that has to
Speaker 5: try to do this thing they're required to do it.
Speaker 5: There's the victims families who are involved. There's the inmate who,
Speaker 5: at one point, you know, you say to him, you're
Speaker 5: going to be dead tomorrow, in two hours, you're going
Speaker 5: to be dead, and he has to respond to that.
Speaker 5: And then there's also the family of the death row inmate.
Speaker 5: Who is suffering the most in this you've really been close,
Speaker 5: who's suffering most in this shit show that is our
Speaker 5: death penalty.
Speaker 6: Look, I think a lot of people are I sympathize
Speaker 6: deeply with victims' families.
Speaker 8: I mean, those.
Speaker 6: Murders are so horrific and create generational trauma.
Speaker 8: The perpetrator's families.
Speaker 6: They didn't do anything wrong, you know, and they're dragged
Speaker 6: through this mess all the time. I would say the
Speaker 6: one subsect of people that we don't focus on that
Speaker 6: much are the people actually doing the executing. And a
Speaker 6: lot of these people they're not bad people. It doesn't
Speaker 6: suggest that they're pro death. I mean, this is their job, right, ye.
Speaker 6: And I talked to the warden as I mentioned at
Speaker 6: Florida State Prison and that guy, I mean, he really
Speaker 6: watched a bad execution by electric chair, I mean effectively
Speaker 6: burned this person alive. He became an alcoholic and he
Speaker 6: had these nightmares, I mean had total PTSD where he
Speaker 6: described that you know, each night he would go to
Speaker 6: sleep and the inmates that he had executed would walk
Speaker 6: into his room and they would sit at the foot
Speaker 6: of his bed and they would just stare at him,
Speaker 6: and they didn't have to say anything because he knew
Speaker 6: what they were thinking.
Speaker 5: And then though, there's a nice part that is his
Speaker 5: wife basically made him go to therapy and it helped them.
Speaker 5: So good job to all the wives making their husbands
Speaker 5: go to therapy on them. Yeah, right, Is there a
Speaker 5: way we can reform this system. Is there a positive
Speaker 5: that we can take from this in your opinion?
Speaker 6: I mean, this book is not anti death penalty, it's
Speaker 6: not pro death penalty, right. This is a deep investigation
Speaker 6: into a broken system.
Speaker 5: I really say on page five, which I love, which
Speaker 5: is we're not here to debate the morality of the
Speaker 5: death penny, but we are here that we can all
Speaker 5: agree that it's a broken system.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What I want people to take away is, look, if
Speaker 6: we are going to have this practice carried out in
Speaker 6: our name and on our dime, right, hundreds of thousands
Speaker 6: of dollars, millions of dollars per.
Speaker 8: Death sentence, right, way more expensive than life without parole.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I wanted. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Then I think we need to face what we're actually doing.
Speaker 6: I don't think we should sleep at night, you know,
Speaker 6: thinking that these guys are just peacefully falling asleep on
Speaker 6: a gurney and that's.
Speaker 8: The end of the story.
Speaker 6: And if we're okay with these brutal executions, then okay,
Speaker 6: we live in a democracy. Vote for the death penalty
Speaker 6: for all I care, But at least face what we're doing.
Speaker 6: Stand that a lot of the time we're not actually
Speaker 6: doing the executing, right, We're just putting people on death
Speaker 6: row in many cases solitary confinement. We're paying exorbitant amounts
Speaker 6: for this death penalty without even carrying it out.
Speaker 3: I mean the.
Speaker 5: Irony of at one point they put him on suicide
Speaker 5: watch so they don't want to watch him kill himself,
Speaker 5: so then they can kill him later, even though they're
Speaker 5: too soft to even kill him in the first place.
Speaker 8: It's wild.
Speaker 1: It's wild.
Speaker 8: It's wild.
Speaker 5: Thank you for writing this. It's a tremendous book. The
Speaker 5: Volunteer is available now. Gianna Tiboni Will We're gonna take quick.
Speaker 1: Break the right back after this tonight now here it
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