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Speaker 1: big and massive. Saw an interview on drink excuse me
Speaker 1: on drink Chans for Tony Ye Yo and one of
Speaker 1: the questions was asked to someone about their favorite rapper
Speaker 1: and the whole answer back ice Cube, and Yo says
Speaker 1: to him, shout out to Tony Yo Yo, what a
Speaker 1: big dog. Tony Aal says Cube not fucking with Big.
Speaker 1: And I heard that, and I thought to myself, Cauz like,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at no New York nigga not really thinking,
Speaker 1: Cube with a whole career is not better than Big
Speaker 1: with two records because Cube had excuse me, because Big
Speaker 1: had two phenomenal motherfucking records, ready to die life after
Speaker 1: death for phenomenal joints. But after that, he says something
Speaker 1: to the equivalent of Cube ain't a better storyteller than Big.
Speaker 1: That's where I got a motherfucking problem. That's where I
Speaker 1: got a motherfucking problem. Dog, Like, what are we really
Speaker 1: fucking talking about? Cube is not a better storyteller than Big.
Speaker 1: So I asked a couple of my partners that's on
Speaker 1: the island, shout out to all my partners in New York.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I call them niggas the Islanders because it's like they
Speaker 1: kind of have this restricted view of hip hop as
Speaker 1: the creators, which I respect.
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping.
Speaker 1: That's how we feel about gang banging. You feel me,
Speaker 1: so I could relate. But then I do expect that
Speaker 1: times for them niggas to really see shit for what
Speaker 1: it is. And I realized in their mind that they
Speaker 1: had the same feeling about Big. And that's not to
Speaker 1: say much notorist. Big is a fucking terrific storyteller, like
Speaker 1: fantastic storyteller, like this nigga is incredible, but Ice Cube
Speaker 1: Couzin is on another level. And I'm talking to Charlotte
Speaker 1: Mane and Charlet Magne is telling me BIG's catalog is
Speaker 1: all stories, and I'm like, you obviously haven't heard ice
Speaker 1: cues catalog because you just wouldn't have said that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I took it upon myself
Speaker 1: to compile a list, do some homework over a couple
Speaker 1: of days, compiling lists and start figuring out, damn.
Speaker 2: What are the ten greatest stories in hip hop?
Speaker 1: That would be a real way to get into this,
Speaker 1: like to really take it well because as a certain
Speaker 1: place in brand, you know what I mean, when you
Speaker 1: like an artist dog, that's a preference. And you could
Speaker 1: say best, best is a preference, Better is a preference.
Speaker 1: Great its measurable. Great is measurable because it's not like
Speaker 1: better or best. Great means there's analytics to back this
Speaker 1: shit up. So I took the time and I start
Speaker 1: going through joints and I was like, okay, let me
Speaker 1: look through these joints. So as I remember going back
Speaker 1: through records jamming, I was jamming for hours, jamming for hours,
Speaker 1: and I came up with a few things. Before I
Speaker 1: get into the ten greatest stories in hip hop history,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about some that deserved just a quick conversation.
Speaker 2: All the storytelling by Outcast. That's a fantastic story.
Speaker 1: I used to love her by Common even though it's
Speaker 1: a way of him shitting on gangster rap and West
Speaker 1: Coast Hip hop. It's a fantastic story. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Common six in the Morning by Ice Q. While I
Speaker 1: might not have it as the greatest, it's probably the
Speaker 1: most impactful. It's shape gangster rap the way we know
Speaker 1: it today. As far as West Coast Hip hop goes
Speaker 1: with storytelling. One of the songs in here is actually
Speaker 1: a direct descendant of ice T six in the Morning
Speaker 1: Shout out to the O G.
Speaker 2: Love's Gonna Get You by BDP.
Speaker 1: That deserves an honorable mention because that's a fantastic story.
Speaker 1: Kick Push by Lupe Fiasco barely missed it. That's a
Speaker 1: fantastic story. Louis my man and this is what he does.
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic storyteller as well. Paul Revere by the
Speaker 1: Beastie Boys. I don't think it gets credited as the
Speaker 1: story it is, but it's a dope ass story. Jen
Speaker 1: and Juice and Murder Was the Case is tied. Now
Speaker 1: this is the thing. While Murder Was the Case is
Speaker 1: a story that's really popular and spawned the whole album.
Speaker 1: I understand because they didn't necessarily decide to push.
Speaker 2: It across the world.
Speaker 1: It was something that took a life of its own right,
Speaker 1: and Jen and Juice it should be top five, except
Speaker 1: most people don't know Jen and Juice is actually a story. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jen and Juice is a story. You hear the hook
Speaker 1: and you jamming, and you're saying the words, but you
Speaker 1: don't know you're you're listening to a story of a
Speaker 1: day with Snoop Dogg going into the night.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Tonight because I genuinely believe DJ Quick
Speaker 1: Tonight's inspired Jen and Juice. Now let's get to the shit.
Speaker 1: Add number ten on the Top ten Hip Hop's Greatest story, Boys.
Speaker 2: In the Hood.
Speaker 1: By Nwa, written by Ice Cube, delivered by Eaze. I
Speaker 1: don't got to tell you how great of a story
Speaker 1: the song Boys in the Hood is. You know the
Speaker 1: fucking song, You know the fucking story right, What it did,
Speaker 1: how it impacted hip hop. It launched the career of Nwa.
Speaker 1: That's NWA's first hit. That's the reason why people started
Speaker 1: giving Nwa a chance. It's one of the only two
Speaker 1: records that ever charged for Nwa as far as the
Speaker 1: big charts even go batting straight out of counter it
Speaker 1: launched Eazy E into stardom. Easy was somebody who didn't
Speaker 1: rap before that. He took on that song and it
Speaker 1: changed him into a star, and NWA had a star
Speaker 1: to you know wrap. They group around before Cube came
Speaker 1: into his own. When Cube was just a writer in
Speaker 1: a dope MC you know what I mean, easy E
Speaker 1: was their star. Because of Ice Cube's pen and Boys
Speaker 1: in the Hood. Obviously, everybody started to figure out how
Speaker 1: dope of a rider Ice Cube was.
Speaker 2: Because of Boys in the Hood, the.
Speaker 1: Word got around that Ice Cube was a fantastic motherfucking writer.
Speaker 1: It lost Doctor Dra into a gangster rap producer. Once
Speaker 1: that happened, Doctor Dre didn't look back until Doctor.
Speaker 2: Dre Presents Aftermath.
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre was committed to that hardcore style because of
Speaker 1: the success of Boys in the Hood. It's arguably the
Speaker 1: biggest NWA song. Fuck the Police may be the most impactful,
Speaker 1: but I don't think everybody knows the lyrics to Fuck
Speaker 1: the Police. I think they know the movement that is
Speaker 1: Fucked the Police. They may have heard the hook and
Speaker 1: the beat, but they don't know the words. Straight out
Speaker 1: of Camp obviously is a really special joint. But man,
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how many motherfucking kids under the
Speaker 1: age of twenty know Boys in the Hood. Mind you,
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood is a direct descendant of six
Speaker 1: in the Morning, So that's Ice Tea's influence on ice Q.
Speaker 1: The ironic part about the whole conversation is the song
Speaker 1: wasn't written for NWA or Easy. It was written for
Speaker 1: a New York crew called HBO Homeboys, only they did
Speaker 1: not like the song. They turned down a song that
Speaker 1: ended up being generational, defining them. Niggas is not popping
Speaker 1: because of that shit. You cannot turn down the winners.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they didn't know, but I bet you they
Speaker 1: know now. Number nine slick Rick's Children's Story. Slick ricks
Speaker 1: Children's Story. Y'all all know this motherfucking song. Everybody remember
Speaker 1: this song when they was a fucking kid. It's self produced.
Speaker 1: Slick ricked himself produced. That's something we don't glowed enough
Speaker 1: about when you know hip hop artists produced their own
Speaker 1: shit and the records that are successful. It spawned one
Speaker 1: of the greatest R and B hits to come out
Speaker 1: of LA a number one song, This Is How We
Speaker 1: Do It by Montel Jordan because it was such a
Speaker 1: dope break and such a dope melody that slick Rick
Speaker 1: made it turned Montel Jordan's song into an even bigger song.
Speaker 1: It's the motherfucking story that keeps song giving. Something else
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize about the children's story is
Speaker 1: if you listen to the lyrics, the little boy was
Speaker 1: surrounded and that ended his glory. And that's the way
Speaker 1: Rick had to end that story. He was only seventeens
Speaker 1: in a mad man's dream. The shot that cops shot
Speaker 1: the still hear him scream they shot the nigga after
Speaker 1: he dropped the gun. So in theory is one of
Speaker 1: the first motherfucking records that we can identify as somebody saying, hey,
Speaker 1: the police ain't right. This comes out before in wa
Speaker 1: There's another song on my list that actually brings up
Speaker 1: police brutality and excessive force too, But you know it
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit. But we'll talk about it when
Speaker 1: we get to there. What the fuck kind of story
Speaker 1: is that? To tell your nephews and nieces remember about
Speaker 1: this slick Rick story, because this is something a story's
Speaker 1: telling his nephews and nieces before a bad time, and
Speaker 1: they sound like they was four Rick. We gotta talk
Speaker 1: about that. That's a fucking crazy story to tell. Somebody
Speaker 1: four or five, and the kids shipped off the shit too.
Speaker 1: They thought this motherfucker was crazy. They was calling him,
Speaker 1: where Rick, Uncle Riggy is weird?
Speaker 2: Rick?
Speaker 1: You can't be telling the motherfucking kids kind of stories
Speaker 1: at that age, man, Like, I get it. We as
Speaker 1: black people in America. You know we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with some shit. But that's a crazy, bad time story, Nigga.
Speaker 1: Most people is telling people about you know, singing people
Speaker 1: marry go rounds and lovbiards and shit. And you telling
Speaker 1: motherfucking story about kids and motherfucker's getting killed and shit
Speaker 1: by the police getting shot.
Speaker 2: We gotta talk about that, big Dog.
Speaker 1: Number eight is one of the most underrated stories in
Speaker 1: disrespect the stories in the history of hip hop. Number
Speaker 1: eight is Through the Wire by Kanye West. Through the
Speaker 1: Wire by Kanye West self.
Speaker 2: Motherfucking produced.
Speaker 1: I don't got to tell you about the production of
Speaker 1: Kanye West because we had already heard it before that.
Speaker 1: But we were introduced to Kanye West, the motherfucking rapper,
Speaker 1: This motherfucker rapping the story of his personal tragedy as
Speaker 1: it happened, a wreck at three am in LA while
Speaker 1: working on music, falling asleep on the wheel getting into
Speaker 1: a car accident that fucks him up. I think he
Speaker 1: had to be you know, let like they had to
Speaker 1: get him out the car through the jaws of life
Speaker 1: at three in the morning. The motherfucking ended up at Cedars.
Speaker 1: Side nine word was when Couz was in the hospital,
Speaker 1: he started writing lyrics to this song, like like when
Speaker 1: he came out of his coma, and I think either
Speaker 1: his face had the surgery like the.
Speaker 2: Inside scope was.
Speaker 1: Cuz was starting to figure out the song, like he
Speaker 1: already knew he was gonna flip through the Fire by
Speaker 1: Shaka Khan to make this song, so they said when
Speaker 1: they came to the studio. When it came to the hospital,
Speaker 1: Cuz had like some ideas already for lyrics. He recorded
Speaker 1: the song only two weeks after. That's why if you
Speaker 1: listened to Through the Wire, Cuz barely can open his mouth.
Speaker 1: As I said, before he samples Shaka khns Through the Fire.
Speaker 1: Shaka Khan wouldn't even clear the motherfucking song until she
Speaker 1: saw that video. That video was one of the most
Speaker 1: brilliant and creative things I've ever saw in hip hop.
Speaker 1: If we're keeping it, that's that video was crazy make
Speaker 1: sure you check that shit out. That shit was unfrecking believable,
Speaker 1: and Shaka Khan wouldn't clear it until she saw the video.
Speaker 2: She ended up regretting it.
Speaker 1: This shit talking about how he did the vocals, but
Speaker 1: he did Shakakana favorite because that shit is paying. And
Speaker 1: whoever wrote that song for Shaka Khan they getting paid
Speaker 1: because I know for sure of them niggas they make
Speaker 1: no money. I'm willing to bet that was no publishing
Speaker 1: to get on that song. I've never heard a story
Speaker 1: in hip hop that turns such tragedy in a triumph.
Speaker 1: It's funny because that's one of the lyrics to the song,
Speaker 1: but I never heard that. Like a lot of hip
Speaker 1: hop stories that sad end on a sad note, this
Speaker 1: is one of the few that took a real underdog story,
Speaker 1: a sad story and he.
Speaker 2: Won at the end.
Speaker 1: And in real life, the whole time Ya was trying
Speaker 1: to convince Rockefeller that he was going to be a
Speaker 1: successful rapper, this was the song that proved it. I
Speaker 1: don't even think Rockefeller believed in it right when they recorded,
Speaker 1: but they put it out and then everything worked out.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Yan for that but yeah at
Speaker 1: number eight through the wife Kanye West.
Speaker 2: Respect that as a story. It is number seven.
Speaker 1: My favorite artist in the history of artists, Scarface. I
Speaker 1: Seen a Man Die, Scarface, I Seen a Man Die.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the song I never
Speaker 1: seen a man cry till I Seen a Man Die.
Speaker 1: That's actually the title of the song because I've seen
Speaker 1: a Man die.
Speaker 2: It's one of.
Speaker 1: Scarface's only two top forty records. This is the song
Speaker 1: that launches Scarface into solo.
Speaker 2: Start n O Joe on the beat.
Speaker 1: Mike Dean, Mike Dean changes his abject Mike Dean changes
Speaker 1: his trajectory. You know a lot about Mike Dean now
Speaker 1: because he works with Kanye, and Scarface is another person
Speaker 1: that produced on a song that really doesn't get enough
Speaker 1: credit as a producer. So shut out to Face for
Speaker 1: that production, right if you heard Share so Many Tears.
Speaker 1: I don't have to explain to you how touching the
Speaker 1: song is.
Speaker 2: Just go listen to it. Dog.
Speaker 1: It's sad like that's a sad story where the dude
Speaker 1: dies in the end and regrets his circumstances. That's mostly
Speaker 1: how sad stories end in hip hop. It inspires shed
Speaker 1: So Many Tears by Tupac. If you go look at
Speaker 1: the Outlaws, the Outlaws have interviews where they say Pac
Speaker 1: was listening to Shed so Many Tears, and after that
Speaker 1: he went to the studio to write Excuse Me. He
Speaker 1: was listening to I've Seen a Man Die, and he
Speaker 1: went to the studio to write Share so Many Tears,
Speaker 1: which ended up being one of PAC's greatest songs in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: That launched him.
Speaker 1: Like all of my older homies, all the gang members
Speaker 1: before that, they might have played Pac a little bit
Speaker 1: when I get around you, I mean maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit of Dear Mama maybe, but Dear Mama's after, you know.
Speaker 2: Not so much.
Speaker 1: Keep your head up. Like niggas respected it as a kid.
Speaker 1: I washed it because that shit was fire. But she
Speaker 1: had so many tears. Is when my big homies and
Speaker 1: a lot of g niggas I know started really playing
Speaker 1: Tupac religiously.
Speaker 2: And it's probably the saddest story in hip hop.
Speaker 1: How a nigga get out of prison during seven years
Speaker 1: and getting to some shit, end up back in prison
Speaker 1: and commit suicide. And it's crazy because I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: Scarface is like one of the niggas like Edgar Allan
Speaker 1: poecuz of hip hop, like that nigga shit is so heartfelt.
Speaker 1: And as I was talking to Charlemagne about Scarface, he said, Mans,
Speaker 1: other people have never touched you like Scarface, and that's
Speaker 1: what makes Scarface brilliant, like his richness, his texture as
Speaker 1: a storyteller. He's for sure my favorite guy of all
Speaker 1: the guys in the world right but again, it's like
Speaker 1: he has the work to back it up. I've seen
Speaker 1: a man die as One of the most popular stories
Speaker 1: in hip hop history at number six is the message
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. It's the birth of
Speaker 1: conscious rap. This is the first conscious rap song. It's
Speaker 1: another sad story where somebody ends up dying at the
Speaker 1: end and them niggas end up going to jail. And
Speaker 1: the crazy part is the owner of the label, Sylvia Robinson,
Speaker 1: is the only person who believed in the song.
Speaker 2: Mind You.
Speaker 1: Nobody else from Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is
Speaker 1: on the song, but Melly Mail and the producer Duke Booty.
Speaker 2: That's the only people on the song.
Speaker 1: Melli Mail didn't even like the song because at that
Speaker 1: point hip hop was all about partying. Like I always
Speaker 1: tell y'all. The hop is a party. The hop was
Speaker 1: the way they used to The hop is like my
Speaker 1: father and them used to call a dance. H we
Speaker 1: going to a hop. Hip is a is a cool thing.
Speaker 1: So hip hop is where it came from. So hip
Speaker 1: hop was about you know, partying and being both for
Speaker 1: about making yourself.
Speaker 2: Why are you so fresh? Why you so ooh?
Speaker 1: Until the message came out, the message birth dealing with
Speaker 1: the struggle completely different. You know what I'm saying not
Speaker 1: to mention most people don't know, but it was written
Speaker 1: as a theme to the nineteen eighty New York City
Speaker 1: Transit straight like this was hip hop breaking barriers. Then
Speaker 1: the message is a fantastic It's probably the second greatest
Speaker 1: story to ever come out of hip hop. So even
Speaker 1: though people didn't believe that this was going to be
Speaker 1: the wave of hip hop, Melly Mal and Duke Booty
Speaker 1: took a chance ended up birthing a genre. That's why
Speaker 1: what Melly Mail has, what he has to say about
Speaker 1: eminem or any other rapper, I just listen. Even if
Speaker 1: I don't agree, I'll just disagree. You know, Mail, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I put respect on the shit. Melly
Speaker 1: mall talking about because he birthed the genre of conscious rap.
Speaker 1: There is no NAS without Melly Mail. There is no
Speaker 1: motherfucking Tupac without melly Mail. There is no conscious rap
Speaker 1: without fucking Melly Mail. Ice Que may check yourself from
Speaker 1: the Message, which is another fantastic story that we don't
Speaker 1: really give credence to. Can't Nobody Hold Me Down? By
Speaker 1: Puff and motherfucking Mace is a flip of the Message
Speaker 1: that was a smash hit record. Coyner Rayge just flipped
Speaker 1: it last year and made players and that Motherfucker was
Speaker 1: a number one smash, a huge record. It's just levels
Speaker 1: not to mention. This is most likely one of the
Speaker 1: most important, if not the most important, reason that the
Speaker 1: Grand Master Flash and Furious Five were the first hip
Speaker 1: hop act inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: And it's most likely because of the song the Message.
Speaker 1: So it's weird that they didn't want to fuck with
Speaker 1: the song, but this song is probably the primary reason.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to the rest of their work. The rest
Speaker 1: of they work get off too, but this particular song
Speaker 1: is a gang changing song and it birth I don't
Speaker 1: like You don't get Kendrick Lamar without the fucking message.
Speaker 2: So shout out to mail. Shout out to Duke.
Speaker 1: At number five. We right back with my boys, Scarface
Speaker 1: mind playing tricks on me by the Ghetto Boys. The
Speaker 1: reason I give Scarface so much created is Scarface wrote
Speaker 1: three of the four verses. It was a Scarface solo song.
Speaker 1: Jay Prince thought it was a good idea and he
Speaker 1: thought it could break the Ghetto Boys. Jay Prince was right.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jay Prince that motherfucker don't be missing.
Speaker 1: It's the first song in hip hop to address mental health.
Speaker 1: Right now, all these motherfuckers is crazy on mental health.
Speaker 1: You hear all these motherfuckers talking about anxiety and all
Speaker 1: this shit, and.
Speaker 2: This is the first song.
Speaker 1: See it comes across as guilty conscious for being this way,
Speaker 1: but really it's a take on anxiety back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety fucking one. Most people don't know Scarface wrote this
Speaker 1: song because he's been through a lot of traumatic shit.
Speaker 1: There was a time Scarface tried to kill himself and
Speaker 1: got put into a like an asylum. At least that's
Speaker 1: what I heard. Like, Scarface is a deep person, and
Speaker 1: when you border that type of deepness. I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: dangerous and it probably could be dangerous to your health
Speaker 1: and to your livelihood. So Scarface is brilliant at a cost,
Speaker 1: Like he don't go to these places for free. This
Speaker 1: shit cost him sometime before, I would imagine, because there's
Speaker 1: no way you could be that fucking deep because and
Speaker 1: not been to those places where you thought about, you.
Speaker 2: Know, ending life.
Speaker 1: Mind playing tricks on Me is just a simple old
Speaker 1: expression from Southerners, you know what I mean, when something's
Speaker 1: going on and they're like, I'm tripping. Most people don't
Speaker 1: know it was self produced. Scarface produced mind playing tricks
Speaker 1: on Me. It's another thing again, Scarface is such an
Speaker 1: underrated talent in music, and that's saying a lot of
Speaker 1: Scarf gets a lot of props, but he deserves a
Speaker 1: lot more props. Shout out to n O Joe, shout
Speaker 1: out to Mike Dean. But they will tell you that
Speaker 1: Scarface was just as vested in the production. That's why
Speaker 1: right now, when that motherfucker jump on stage to do
Speaker 1: a show, that motherfucker jump up there with a guitar
Speaker 1: and be playing that motherfucker. This song established the South
Speaker 1: in the gangster rap realm this single song to the
Speaker 1: rest of the country. I'm sure the South had more
Speaker 1: songs before this, but this was the first time to
Speaker 1: the rest of the country, the South planet their flag like,
Speaker 1: oh we hear this is the real the South got
Speaker 1: something to say moment shout out to our cast, shout
Speaker 1: out to Dre but ghetto boys. Mind Playing Tricks was
Speaker 1: the first time that the South put they motherfucking flag
Speaker 1: in the sand in the West, the Midwest, and the
Speaker 1: East collectively and said the South got something to say, and.
Speaker 2: Everybody decided to fucking listen.
Speaker 1: Kid Cuddy personally says it inspired day and Night. So
Speaker 1: just like Scarfaces, I've seen a man die, inspire Tupacs
Speaker 1: shed so many tears, mind Playing Tricks on me inspire
Speaker 1: Kid cut He's day and Night. And I really don't
Speaker 1: fuck with Cutty's music, but that's that might make me
Speaker 1: have to listen to it a lot more times because
Speaker 1: I've heard it enough times and I.
Speaker 2: Do see the correlations.
Speaker 1: But if that's true, man, shout out to Cutty, because
Speaker 1: that's ill as fuck.
Speaker 2: You flip the shit out that that's player. I fuck
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: At number four and a lot of motherfuckers it's gonna
Speaker 1: hate this. It's stand by Eminem. I mean, everybody fucking
Speaker 1: knows stand. The term stand is so popular the term
Speaker 1: may have escaped the popularity of the song because a
Speaker 1: stand is how you talk with somebody who's just stalking you.
Speaker 1: That's in addition to the culture niggas is calling each
Speaker 1: other stands, that nigga's a stand because you are a
Speaker 1: stalker or you are a groupie to something somebody else
Speaker 1: is doing. The motherfucker had a clean version to the
Speaker 1: lyrics and it still got over censored. Certain words got
Speaker 1: oversensured because that's how scared and fearful they were of what.
Speaker 2: Eminem's and fluid could be with his lyrics.
Speaker 1: It's most likely Eminem's greatest song. Eminem got number one songs.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Stan didn't chart number one, but there's probably
Speaker 1: no greater hip hop contribution than Stan. Shout out to
Speaker 1: all the rest of the dope records. But Stan is
Speaker 1: that shit, and it's self fucking produced. Nobody talks about
Speaker 1: his self produced. He did that with forty five King.
Speaker 1: Shout out to forty five King because he's another motherfucking
Speaker 1: want to do your homework on forty five King forty five,
Speaker 1: King is Crazy. Eminem mixed the song hisself. That motherfucker
Speaker 1: mixed the song himself with Dre back then he's still
Speaker 1: mix the song itself. That's pretty dope. Doctor Dre and
Speaker 1: Philip Atwell directed the video. And when I tell you
Speaker 1: they got that video right, man, I can't stress it enough.
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre is another god to me who directs music
Speaker 1: videos that don't get enough credit.
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre actually also.
Speaker 1: Directed None but the G Thing, two iconic videos standing
Speaker 1: None but the g Thing, but again Eminem at number four,
Speaker 1: you Feel Me with stan as one of the top
Speaker 1: ten greatest stories in hip hop history. Number three, we
Speaker 1: right back to the East Coast and this is the
Speaker 1: greatest story ever told from a New York MC. Just
Speaker 1: a Friend by biz Mark rest in Peace. That's right,
Speaker 1: Just a Friend by biz Mark, rest in Peace. That
Speaker 1: was one of the earliest times we learned about skeezers
Speaker 1: at a high level through hip hop.
Speaker 2: Just a Friend by biz Mark.
Speaker 1: For some reason, New York don't respect what biz Mark
Speaker 1: due as an MC. Even though his style burst old
Speaker 1: dirty bastard. His style is influential with buston rhymes. But
Speaker 1: you know again, the biasness of what you think a
Speaker 1: punchline is versus the ability to deliver a message and
Speaker 1: get it across. Biz Mark at number three with Just
Speaker 1: a Friend is the third greatest story ever in hip
Speaker 1: hop history. It's self produced with Karma. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Karas Carmen o' get no credit. Biz Mark DJ helped
Speaker 1: on it as well. I think the video was produced
Speaker 1: by Bennie Madena, who later on goes to do Fresh
Speaker 1: Prince of bel Air. I'm sure y'all heard of that
Speaker 1: show before once or twice. This is one of the
Speaker 1: earliest times someone in hip hop sang their own hook.
Speaker 1: And when everybody I heard everybody was in the studio
Speaker 1: there was like, Man, you're gonna let be a single
Speaker 1: hook on this motherfucker.
Speaker 2: He like, man, this shit feel good.
Speaker 1: Like biz is not credited with his creativity, Like I
Speaker 1: heard somebody call him a one hit wonder, and I
Speaker 1: get it because if they're talking about Billboard charts, maybe
Speaker 1: that's a conversation. But within the culture, Bier's got a
Speaker 1: few joints, vapors being another one. But again, we live
Speaker 1: in the word world, so we live in a weird world.
Speaker 1: The fucked upest part about the ideas. Biz never made
Speaker 1: a dime off the record.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's the sample, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if the label's holding the asset. But Biz and the
Speaker 1: producers never made a single cent off the record sales,
Speaker 1: royalties or publishing. They had to go tour for that money,
Speaker 1: all Rob Peter biz Man. Nobody beats the biz Dog,
Speaker 1: like y'all niggas is tripping. Respect the Big, Respect the Nods,
Speaker 1: respect the Killer, ghost Face Killer, respect the Ray.
Speaker 2: But let's be for real, man.
Speaker 1: It's the fucking biz Dog, just a friend nigga like
Speaker 1: stop front like this shit ain't the one like you.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: How many metaphors and similar as you put in your
Speaker 1: fucking wraps. When the message gets across, that's what this
Speaker 1: shit is about. At number two, today was a good
Speaker 1: day by ice q This is why I laugh when
Speaker 1: people tell me Big is a better storyteller than ICEQE.
Speaker 1: You can prefer big stories, you can.
Speaker 2: Say they're better. I'm not even mad at that.
Speaker 1: If you like them better, fine, But when we're talking
Speaker 1: about sheer greatness, today was a good day. It's possibly
Speaker 1: the greatest story in hip hop ever. Like, people of
Speaker 1: all ages know today was a good day. People know
Speaker 1: what happened to him when you got him on the court.
Speaker 2: When you got him on the court, it was trouble.
Speaker 2: You know what he did Right now? Motherfuckers is still debating.
Speaker 2: What's he playing a game of twenty one? I seen
Speaker 2: this shit the other day on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Mother was like, well, he got a triple double playing
Speaker 1: twenty What he just say that in the song.
Speaker 2: Diddy, I don't know shit. Old on they did Ice Cubes.
Speaker 1: I think, Get me on the court and I'm trouble
Speaker 1: last week, fuck around and got a triple double. He
Speaker 1: was a good day and everything. Get hold of there though,
Speaker 1: and everything is all right. I got a beat.
Speaker 2: From Kim and she can fuck all night haul.
Speaker 1: The homies and I'm asking y'all which point which part
Speaker 1: are y'all playing basketball? Get me on the court and
Speaker 1: I'm trouble last week? Fuck around and got a triple double.
Speaker 1: Freaking niggas every way like MJ. And he's talking about
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson nigga, now Michael Jordan, the original MJ Nigga
Speaker 1: produced by DJ Pool. So again, when I tell you,
Speaker 1: ice Cube is possibly, in arguably the greatest storyteller in
Speaker 1: hip hop. They did go right Friday, which is another
Speaker 1: ice Cube story. Then he wrote number ten on the
Speaker 1: list right, which is boys in the Hood. I'm not
Speaker 1: even talking about the fact we had to mention. He
Speaker 1: wrote check yourself, which is another story. This is how
Speaker 1: popular ice Que stories are. This story was unique for
Speaker 1: ICEQ because this is when he's finally winning. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of ice Q's music was angry and problematic because
Speaker 1: he was going through it seeing stuff in this community.
Speaker 1: He didn't like falling out with friends, getting at the points,
Speaker 1: but this one was when he finally was winning, which
Speaker 1: is the same story behind Friday.
Speaker 2: The Hood wasn't always bad.
Speaker 1: He wanted to show people that niggas still get it
Speaker 1: on and have a good time. There are bloggers who
Speaker 1: to this day research to try to figure out the
Speaker 1: day that today was a good day. They're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the good day that this shit happened on,
Speaker 1: and they have done work. They have came up with
Speaker 1: two days, January twentieth, nineteen ninety two, or November thirty
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2: This is how fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: The story of today was a good day prim exactly
Speaker 1: like Big has a fantastic story.
Speaker 2: What I got his story to tell?
Speaker 1: Right And people spent a lot of time trying to
Speaker 1: figure out which one of the Knicks players wives did
Speaker 1: he sleep with or girls that he slept with, and
Speaker 1: end up.
Speaker 2: Finding out its Anthony Mason. Rest in peace to Anthony.
Speaker 1: Mason's this is not this is what's been happening with
Speaker 1: Cube the whole time. Right now, they're still telling stories
Speaker 1: saying how did he get a triple double in the
Speaker 1: Game of twenty one? Right now this is a question,
Speaker 1: So it's not just one question, it's multiple questions about
Speaker 1: this song. Fast forward to twenty fourteen. They struck a
Speaker 1: deal with Goodyear Blimp for a motherfucking a.
Speaker 2: Charity called a Place call Home that looks out for.
Speaker 1: Urban kids coming up in the streets, trying to get
Speaker 1: them a place together to chill and hang and get
Speaker 1: their shit on. And they did a deal with the
Speaker 1: good Year Blim and it read ice cubes of pimp
Speaker 1: Like that type of iconic shit don't happen from hip
Speaker 1: hop's stories.
Speaker 2: That's how iconic today was a good day.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if you think the game
Speaker 1: is about punchlines as symblies and all that. The game
Speaker 1: is about motherfuckers getting the message. You could be as
Speaker 1: weirdy as you won't if motherfuckers don't get the message.
Speaker 1: And when it comes down to getting the message, today
Speaker 1: was a good day. It's probably the message that everybody understood.
Speaker 1: And it's still number two. That's the fuck that part.
Speaker 1: Even with all this discussion, it's still number two. The
Speaker 1: greatest story in the history of hip hop is Regulating.
Speaker 1: Regulate by Warren G and Nate Dog. Regulate by Warren
Speaker 1: G and Nate Dog. Everybody knows the story of regulating.
Speaker 1: Everybody we could talk about, Oh well, I feel like
Speaker 1: Warren G.
Speaker 2: You know the way he shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: They introduced Nate DOGG as a singing component that changed
Speaker 1: the face of hip hop from that point on with
Speaker 1: how we.
Speaker 2: Did records, with the singing, back and forth with the vocals.
Speaker 1: It's levels, it's self produced by Warren G. Self produced
Speaker 1: by Warren G. It launched the career of Warren G
Speaker 1: and Nate Dog. When Death Row. When Warren G couldn't
Speaker 1: get on with Death Row, he made a fucking song
Speaker 1: that was so big that he created his own lane.
Speaker 1: It turned Nate Dog from some niggas singing on hooks
Speaker 1: song Droctor Dre and Snoop album into Nate dog that
Speaker 1: we know.
Speaker 2: That's the reason we know Nate Dogg is because of.
Speaker 1: Regula at the highest level, not glasses glasses nose, motherfucking
Speaker 1: Nate Dog from all the death Row shit and all
Speaker 1: the motherfucking Doggies damn shit. But the rest of you
Speaker 1: motherfuckers know Nate Dogg because of Regulator. And I don't
Speaker 1: got to tell you it's confortble well, this is the
Speaker 1: single song that launched his career. That single song saved
Speaker 1: death Jam. Death Jam up to that point had never
Speaker 1: had a song that charted as high as Regulate.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about commercial fuck all that,
Speaker 1: but listen to the point of this. All of those
Speaker 1: records from death Jam that go back from eighty to
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety fucking four had never been as high on
Speaker 1: the chart as Regulate. So some niggas from the West
Speaker 1: came in and saved the pride and joy of East
Speaker 1: Coast hip hop death Jam one fucking song.
Speaker 2: One fucking song.
Speaker 1: Death Row don't get enough credit because it did come
Speaker 1: out on Above the Rim soundtrack as well.
Speaker 2: And it did well. It did fucking well.
Speaker 1: Right, But this song had to be so hot that
Speaker 1: mind you, it pushed Afro Puff the number two, which
Speaker 1: is another classic hip hop song, but it had to
Speaker 1: come second to regulate, not to mention cuz it's the
Speaker 1: first single on the above the Rim soundtrack. S WV
Speaker 1: is on that soundtrack. WV was an established success. Their
Speaker 1: song is not the first single. H Town is an
Speaker 1: established success. This song is not the first single. Dog
Speaker 1: Pound is out right. They're still figuring it out right,
Speaker 1: but this is the year before the next album come out.
Speaker 2: But Warren g is in front of them with this song.
Speaker 2: Second to None.
Speaker 1: Had a hit already, but their song wasn't the first single.
Speaker 1: Pac with Thug Life had a single on here. That
Speaker 1: song wasn't motherfucking the first single.
Speaker 2: I'll be sure.
Speaker 1: Who is an established success. It's on this motherfucking project.
Speaker 1: But that song wasn't the first single.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: The first motherfucker is single was from the motherfucking from
Speaker 1: the motherfucking the bud.
Speaker 2: The Rim soundtrack. You know what I mean? Two seconds
Speaker 2: to think about it.
Speaker 1: The first single is regulating, So I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck when you have these conversations and you start talking
Speaker 1: about your preference. Man, it's hard to have these conversations
Speaker 1: if everybody gonna talk about they prefer their preference. DUBC
Speaker 1: The Shadiest One is possibly the greatest storytelling album of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite. It's one of the best ones.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna argue with it against certain things
Speaker 1: that have performed.
Speaker 2: At the highest level.
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I prefer Tonight by DJ Quick.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite stories, just like Compton by
Speaker 1: DJ Quick. It's one of my favorite stories. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna compare it to Beiz Marquis just a friend.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. Not when we're talking about
Speaker 1: something we can have a conversation about. I don't gotta
Speaker 1: like something because you don't have to like something to
Speaker 1: understand his greatness.
Speaker 2: This is silly.
Speaker 1: Everybody in their motherfucking mother knows today was a good day.
Speaker 2: Is it not lyrical enough for you? Like? What kind
Speaker 2: of dumb assh are you talking about? Like this shit
Speaker 2: be stupid.
Speaker 1: There's greatness and then there's not greatness. It's as simple
Speaker 1: as that greatness is. When it's quantifiable. We could talk
Speaker 1: about preference all day. I prefer this. I prefer this.
Speaker 1: That don't mean something is greater.
Speaker 2: In and out.
Speaker 1: Listen, five guys makes a better burden than McDonald's. But
Speaker 1: five guys ain't greater than McDonald's.
Speaker 2: It's just not true.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta start having these conversations from places that exist
Speaker 1: just out of yourself. Hip hop is a representation of us.
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my little partners, my
Speaker 1: little putner Real feel Me from out of DC, and
Speaker 1: he was like, well, you know, there's no way nobody
Speaker 1: gonna give prosecute over motherfucking Biggie. And I'm like, you
Speaker 1: don't have to take props away from Biggie to give
Speaker 1: him the cue. You can honestly just tell the truth.
Speaker 1: That don't change the fact that motherfucking Big was the guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna honor the conversation of.
Speaker 2: Who's a better artist. That's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Big didn't even have enough albums, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean for us to see his full potential. We can
Speaker 1: just enjoy what he's done. It's like arguing if bo
Speaker 1: Jackson is the greatest running back, he don't have the
Speaker 1: career enough to motherfucking quantably. You know, we can't quantify
Speaker 1: he don't have enough motherfucking seasons.
Speaker 2: You can't compare.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker to Emmy Smith. Emmis Smith carried a fucking franchise.
Speaker 1: Some of these conversations. And it ain't just about sales,
Speaker 1: It ain't just about chart positioning, but those things matter
Speaker 1: because that's how people find a song. That's how people
Speaker 1: find the song. If you have a fantastic story that
Speaker 1: only three people have heard versus somebody who has a
Speaker 1: fantastic story that thirty million people have heard, it don't
Speaker 1: matter how much you preferred the story of that three
Speaker 1: people heard. Greatness is being there's somebody at the park
Speaker 1: probably better than Michael Jordan, there's somebody probably at the
Speaker 1: park better than Lebron James.
Speaker 2: That don't change Lebron James. It's the greatest small ford
Speaker 2: in the history of basketball.
Speaker 1: I don't get how you don't get these conversations when
Speaker 1: we're talking about great things like you don't have to
Speaker 1: be skewed.
Speaker 2: It don't have to be biased.
Speaker 1: And it's weird when I hear people say that my
Speaker 1: generation or people my age can be biased. Everybody above
Speaker 1: thirty five grew up. If you in LA. You grew
Speaker 1: up off of East Coast hip hop. When you first
Speaker 1: heard hip hop, most likely it came from somebody from
Speaker 1: the East Coast. Most likely it probably was LF fucking
Speaker 1: cool JA. If you was born in eighty two, most
Speaker 1: of the hip hop you first heard was gonna be
Speaker 1: LLL fucking cool Jay, maybe run DMC. You heard jay
Speaker 1: Z as much as you heard everybody else. You heard
Speaker 1: Big as much as you heard everybody else. Because in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles they play everything. During the East Coast West
Speaker 1: Coast supposed war, they played Biggie Biggie Steel had the
Speaker 1: number one record at all the radio stations in LA.
Speaker 1: Because it was never a real ward. This is not
Speaker 1: the island, bro, this same New York. This ain't over there.
Speaker 1: They play all the shit here. We well vested in
Speaker 1: the fucking culture. We hear everything. We got out cast
Speaker 1: early first album, we got Big, first album, we got
Speaker 1: ll all the albums. One of the earliest radio stations
Speaker 1: in ll Cooch that got played on was KD. So
Speaker 1: we grow up with an understanding of hip hop that
Speaker 1: most people stuck on the island, as I say, half
Speaker 1: island fever. They don't have you guys only know what's
Speaker 1: going on on the island. You don't know what's happening
Speaker 1: off the island.
Speaker 2: You just don't know. You just don't know. And I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at.
Speaker 1: You, but you motherfuckers can't talk hip hop with the
Speaker 1: motherfuckers that grew up off the island.
Speaker 2: Because we heard it all. We heard the shit that
Speaker 2: was little in New York. Y'all don't know shit about
Speaker 2: the shadiest one shit.
Speaker 1: So it's weird when you start comparing motherfuckers with the
Speaker 1: greatest stories in the history of the genre to motherfuckers
Speaker 1: you just like, respect the big but it's just levels.
Speaker 1: Respect the nas cuz, but it's levels respect the ghost
Speaker 1: face cuz.
Speaker 2: But it's levels.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about a motherfucker that got some of
Speaker 1: the most popular stories in the history of the fucking world.
Speaker 1: It's one thing motherfucking to like, you know. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to like a rapper. It's another thing to know
Speaker 1: doctor Seuss. It's another thing. Ice Cube is the motherfucker
Speaker 1: Shakespeare is shit. This is how much motherfuckers know his stories.
Speaker 1: They gotta get y'all shipped together. Man, good looking out
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