WEBVTT - Conversations About The 10 Greatest Stories In Hip Hop History

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<v Speaker 1>Wats up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sinners Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses malone Great of an extented amount or intensity

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<v Speaker 1>considerably above the normal or average. One more time, nigga

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<v Speaker 1>great of an extent of an extent amount or intensity

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<v Speaker 1>considerably above the normal or average Great the etymology means

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<v Speaker 1>big and massive. Saw an interview on drink excuse me

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<v Speaker 1>on drink Chans for Tony Ye Yo and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions was asked to someone about their favorite rapper

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole answer back ice Cube, and Yo says

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<v Speaker 1>to him, shout out to Tony Yo Yo, what a

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<v Speaker 1>big dog. Tony Aal says Cube not fucking with Big.

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard that, and I thought to myself, Cauz like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at no New York nigga not really thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>Cube with a whole career is not better than Big

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<v Speaker 1>with two records because Cube had excuse me, because Big

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<v Speaker 1>had two phenomenal motherfucking records, ready to die life after

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<v Speaker 1>death for phenomenal joints. But after that, he says something

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<v Speaker 1>to the equivalent of Cube ain't a better storyteller than Big.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I got a motherfucking problem. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>got a motherfucking problem. Dog, Like, what are we really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking talking about? Cube is not a better storyteller than Big.

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<v Speaker 1>So I asked a couple of my partners that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the island, shout out to all my partners in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I call them niggas the Islanders because it's like they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have this restricted view of hip hop as

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<v Speaker 1>the creators, which I respect.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not tripping.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we feel about gang banging. You feel me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could relate. But then I do expect that

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<v Speaker 1>times for them niggas to really see shit for what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And I realized in their mind that they

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<v Speaker 1>had the same feeling about Big. And that's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say much notorist. Big is a fucking terrific storyteller, like

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic storyteller, like this nigga is incredible, but Ice Cube

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<v Speaker 1>Couzin is on another level. And I'm talking to Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>Mane and Charlet Magne is telling me BIG's catalog is

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<v Speaker 1>all stories, and I'm like, you obviously haven't heard ice

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<v Speaker 1>cues catalog because you just wouldn't have said that you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I took it upon myself

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<v Speaker 1>to compile a list, do some homework over a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, compiling lists and start figuring out, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the ten greatest stories in hip hop?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a real way to get into this,

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<v Speaker 1>like to really take it well because as a certain

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<v Speaker 1>place in brand, you know what I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 1>like an artist dog, that's a preference. And you could

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<v Speaker 1>say best, best is a preference, Better is a preference.

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<v Speaker 1>Great its measurable. Great is measurable because it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>better or best. Great means there's analytics to back this

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<v Speaker 1>shit up. So I took the time and I start

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<v Speaker 1>going through joints and I was like, okay, let me

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<v Speaker 1>look through these joints. So as I remember going back

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<v Speaker 1>through records jamming, I was jamming for hours, jamming for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came up with a few things. Before I

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<v Speaker 1>get into the ten greatest stories in hip hop history,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about some that deserved just a quick conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>All the storytelling by Outcast. That's a fantastic story.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to love her by Common even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>a way of him shitting on gangster rap and West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Hip hop. It's a fantastic story. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Common six in the Morning by Ice Q. While I

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<v Speaker 1>might not have it as the greatest, it's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most impactful. It's shape gangster rap the way we know

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<v Speaker 1>it today. As far as West Coast Hip hop goes

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<v Speaker 1>with storytelling. One of the songs in here is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a direct descendant of ice T six in the Morning

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the O G.

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<v Speaker 2>Love's Gonna Get You by BDP.

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<v Speaker 1>That deserves an honorable mention because that's a fantastic story.

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<v Speaker 1>Kick Push by Lupe Fiasco barely missed it. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic story. Louis my man and this is what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fantastic storyteller as well. Paul Revere by the

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<v Speaker 1>Beastie Boys. I don't think it gets credited as the

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<v Speaker 1>story it is, but it's a dope ass story. Jen

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<v Speaker 1>and Juice and Murder Was the Case is tied. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing. While Murder Was the Case is

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<v Speaker 1>a story that's really popular and spawned the whole album.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand because they didn't necessarily decide to push.

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<v Speaker 2>It across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something that took a life of its own right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jen and Juice it should be top five, except

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't know Jen and Juice is actually a story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Jen and Juice is a story. You hear the hook

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<v Speaker 1>and you jamming, and you're saying the words, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you're you're listening to a story of a

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<v Speaker 1>day with Snoop Dogg going into the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Tonight because I genuinely believe DJ Quick

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight's inspired Jen and Juice. Now let's get to the shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Add number ten on the Top ten Hip Hop's Greatest story, Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Hood.

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<v Speaker 1>By Nwa, written by Ice Cube, delivered by Eaze. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't got to tell you how great of a story

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<v Speaker 1>the song Boys in the Hood is. You know the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking song, You know the fucking story right, What it did,

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<v Speaker 1>how it impacted hip hop. It launched the career of Nwa.

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<v Speaker 1>That's NWA's first hit. That's the reason why people started

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<v Speaker 1>giving Nwa a chance. It's one of the only two

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<v Speaker 1>records that ever charged for Nwa as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>big charts even go batting straight out of counter it

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<v Speaker 1>launched Eazy E into stardom. Easy was somebody who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>rap before that. He took on that song and it

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<v Speaker 1>changed him into a star, and NWA had a star

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<v Speaker 1>to you know wrap. They group around before Cube came

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<v Speaker 1>into his own. When Cube was just a writer in

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<v Speaker 1>a dope MC you know what I mean, easy E

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<v Speaker 1>was their star. Because of Ice Cube's pen and Boys

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hood. Obviously, everybody started to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>dope of a rider Ice Cube was.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of Boys in the Hood, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Word got around that Ice Cube was a fantastic motherfucking writer.

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<v Speaker 1>It lost Doctor Dra into a gangster rap producer. Once

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, Doctor Dre didn't look back until Doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Dre Presents Aftermath.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dre was committed to that hardcore style because of

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<v Speaker 1>the success of Boys in the Hood. It's arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest NWA song. Fuck the Police may be the most impactful,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think everybody knows the lyrics to Fuck

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<v Speaker 1>the Police. I think they know the movement that is

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<v Speaker 1>Fucked the Police. They may have heard the hook and

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<v Speaker 1>the beat, but they don't know the words. Straight out

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<v Speaker 1>of Camp obviously is a really special joint. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot tell you how many motherfucking kids under the

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<v Speaker 1>age of twenty know Boys in the Hood. Mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>Boys in the Hood is a direct descendant of six

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morning, So that's Ice Tea's influence on ice Q.

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<v Speaker 1>The ironic part about the whole conversation is the song

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't written for NWA or Easy. It was written for

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<v Speaker 1>a New York crew called HBO Homeboys, only they did

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<v Speaker 1>not like the song. They turned down a song that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being generational, defining them. Niggas is not popping

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<v Speaker 1>because of that shit. You cannot turn down the winners.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they didn't know, but I bet you they

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<v Speaker 1>know now. Number nine slick Rick's Children's Story. Slick ricks

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<v Speaker 1>Children's Story. Y'all all know this motherfucking song. Everybody remember

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<v Speaker 1>this song when they was a fucking kid. It's self produced.

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<v Speaker 1>Slick ricked himself produced. That's something we don't glowed enough

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<v Speaker 1>about when you know hip hop artists produced their own

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<v Speaker 1>shit and the records that are successful. It spawned one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest R and B hits to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of LA a number one song, This Is How We

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<v Speaker 1>Do It by Montel Jordan because it was such a

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<v Speaker 1>dope break and such a dope melody that slick Rick

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<v Speaker 1>made it turned Montel Jordan's song into an even bigger song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the motherfucking story that keeps song giving. Something else

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people realize about the children's story is

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to the lyrics, the little boy was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded and that ended his glory. And that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>Rick had to end that story. He was only seventeens

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<v Speaker 1>in a mad man's dream. The shot that cops shot

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<v Speaker 1>the still hear him scream they shot the nigga after

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped the gun. So in theory is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first motherfucking records that we can identify as somebody saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the police ain't right. This comes out before in wa

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<v Speaker 1>There's another song on my list that actually brings up

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<v Speaker 1>police brutality and excessive force too, But you know it

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<v Speaker 1>don't get enough credit. But we'll talk about it when

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<v Speaker 1>we get to there. What the fuck kind of story

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<v Speaker 1>is that? To tell your nephews and nieces remember about

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<v Speaker 1>this slick Rick story, because this is something a story's

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<v Speaker 1>telling his nephews and nieces before a bad time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they sound like they was four Rick. We gotta talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. That's a fucking crazy story to tell. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>four or five, and the kids shipped off the shit too.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought this motherfucker was crazy. They was calling him,

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<v Speaker 1>where Rick, Uncle Riggy is weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Rick?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be telling the motherfucking kids kind of stories

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<v Speaker 1>at that age, man, Like, I get it. We as

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<v Speaker 1>black people in America. You know we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with some shit. But that's a crazy, bad time story, Nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people is telling people about you know, singing people

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<v Speaker 1>marry go rounds and lovbiards and shit. And you telling

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking story about kids and motherfucker's getting killed and shit

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<v Speaker 1>by the police getting shot.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta talk about that, big Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eight is one of the most underrated stories in

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect the stories in the history of hip hop. Number

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<v Speaker 1>eight is Through the Wire by Kanye West. Through the

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<v Speaker 1>Wire by Kanye West self.

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<v Speaker 2>Motherfucking produced.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't got to tell you about the production of

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye West because we had already heard it before that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were introduced to Kanye West, the motherfucking rapper,

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<v Speaker 1>This motherfucker rapping the story of his personal tragedy as

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, a wreck at three am in LA while

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<v Speaker 1>working on music, falling asleep on the wheel getting into

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<v Speaker 1>a car accident that fucks him up. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had to be you know, let like they had to

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<v Speaker 1>get him out the car through the jaws of life

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<v Speaker 1>at three in the morning. The motherfucking ended up at Cedars.

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<v Speaker 1>Side nine word was when Couz was in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>he started writing lyrics to this song, like like when

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<v Speaker 1>he came out of his coma, and I think either

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<v Speaker 1>his face had the surgery like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside scope was.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuz was starting to figure out the song, like he

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<v Speaker 1>already knew he was gonna flip through the Fire by

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<v Speaker 1>Shaka Khan to make this song, so they said when

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<v Speaker 1>they came to the studio. When it came to the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>Cuz had like some ideas already for lyrics. He recorded

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<v Speaker 1>the song only two weeks after. That's why if you

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<v Speaker 1>listened to Through the Wire, Cuz barely can open his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, before he samples Shaka khns Through the Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaka Khan wouldn't even clear the motherfucking song until she

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<v Speaker 1>saw that video. That video was one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant and creative things I've ever saw in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're keeping it, that's that video was crazy make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you check that shit out. That shit was unfrecking believable,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shaka Khan wouldn't clear it until she saw the video.

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<v Speaker 2>She ended up regretting it.

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<v Speaker 1>This shit talking about how he did the vocals, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did Shakakana favorite because that shit is paying. And

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wrote that song for Shaka Khan they getting paid

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<v Speaker 1>because I know for sure of them niggas they make

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<v Speaker 1>no money. I'm willing to bet that was no publishing

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<v Speaker 1>to get on that song. I've never heard a story

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<v Speaker 1>in hip hop that turns such tragedy in a triumph.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because that's one of the lyrics to the song,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never heard that. Like a lot of hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop stories that sad end on a sad note, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the few that took a real underdog story,

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<v Speaker 1>a sad story and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Won at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And in real life, the whole time Ya was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convince Rockefeller that he was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful rapper, this was the song that proved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think Rockefeller believed in it right when they recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>but they put it out and then everything worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to Yan for that but yeah at

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<v Speaker 1>number eight through the wife Kanye West.

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<v Speaker 2>Respect that as a story. It is number seven.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite artist in the history of artists, Scarface. I

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<v Speaker 1>Seen a Man Die, Scarface, I Seen a Man Die.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know the song I never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a man cry till I Seen a Man Die.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually the title of the song because I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a Man die.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Scarface's only two top forty records. This is the song

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<v Speaker 1>that launches Scarface into solo.

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<v Speaker 2>Start n O Joe on the beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dean, Mike Dean changes his abject Mike Dean changes

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<v Speaker 1>his trajectory. You know a lot about Mike Dean now

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<v Speaker 1>because he works with Kanye, and Scarface is another person

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<v Speaker 1>that produced on a song that really doesn't get enough

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<v Speaker 1>credit as a producer. So shut out to Face for

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<v Speaker 1>that production, right if you heard Share so Many Tears.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to explain to you how touching the

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<v Speaker 1>song is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go listen to it. Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sad like that's a sad story where the dude

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<v Speaker 1>dies in the end and regrets his circumstances. That's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>how sad stories end in hip hop. It inspires shed

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<v Speaker 1>So Many Tears by Tupac. If you go look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Outlaws, the Outlaws have interviews where they say Pac

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to Shed so Many Tears, and after that

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the studio to write Excuse Me. He

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to I've Seen a Man Die, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went to the studio to write Share so Many Tears,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up being one of PAC's greatest songs in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>That launched him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of my older homies, all the gang members

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<v Speaker 1>before that, they might have played Pac a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>when I get around you, I mean maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Dear Mama maybe, but Dear Mama's after, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep your head up. Like niggas respected it as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I washed it because that shit was fire. But she

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<v Speaker 1>had so many tears. Is when my big homies and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of g niggas I know started really playing

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac religiously.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's probably the saddest story in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>How a nigga get out of prison during seven years

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to some shit, end up back in prison

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<v Speaker 1>and commit suicide. And it's crazy because I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Scarface is like one of the niggas like Edgar Allan

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<v Speaker 1>poecuz of hip hop, like that nigga shit is so heartfelt.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was talking to Charlemagne about Scarface, he said, Mans,

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<v Speaker 1>other people have never touched you like Scarface, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes Scarface brilliant, like his richness, his texture as

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<v Speaker 1>a storyteller. He's for sure my favorite guy of all

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<v Speaker 1>the guys in the world right but again, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he has the work to back it up. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a man die as One of the most popular stories

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<v Speaker 1>in hip hop history at number six is the message

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<v Speaker 1>Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. It's the birth of

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<v Speaker 1>conscious rap. This is the first conscious rap song. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another sad story where somebody ends up dying at the

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<v Speaker 1>end and them niggas end up going to jail. And

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy part is the owner of the label, Sylvia Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>is the only person who believed in the song.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind You.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else from Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is

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<v Speaker 1>on the song, but Melly Mail and the producer Duke Booty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only people on the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Melli Mail didn't even like the song because at that

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<v Speaker 1>point hip hop was all about partying. Like I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell y'all. The hop is a party. The hop was

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<v Speaker 1>the way they used to The hop is like my

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<v Speaker 1>father and them used to call a dance. H we

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<v Speaker 1>going to a hop. Hip is a is a cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So hip hop is where it came from. So hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop was about you know, partying and being both for

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<v Speaker 1>about making yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you so fresh? Why you so ooh?

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<v Speaker 1>Until the message came out, the message birth dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the struggle completely different. You know what I'm saying not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention most people don't know, but it was written

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<v Speaker 1>as a theme to the nineteen eighty New York City

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<v Speaker 1>Transit straight like this was hip hop breaking barriers. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the message is a fantastic It's probably the second greatest

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<v Speaker 1>story to ever come out of hip hop. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though people didn't believe that this was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the wave of hip hop, Melly Mal and Duke Booty

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<v Speaker 1>took a chance ended up birthing a genre. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>what Melly Mail has, what he has to say about

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<v Speaker 1>eminem or any other rapper, I just listen. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree, I'll just disagree. You know, Mail, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I put respect on the shit. Melly

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<v Speaker 1>mall talking about because he birthed the genre of conscious rap.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no NAS without Melly Mail. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking Tupac without melly Mail. There is no conscious rap

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<v Speaker 1>without fucking Melly Mail. Ice Que may check yourself from

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<v Speaker 1>the Message, which is another fantastic story that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really give credence to. Can't Nobody Hold Me Down? By

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<v Speaker 1>Puff and motherfucking Mace is a flip of the Message

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<v Speaker 1>that was a smash hit record. Coyner Rayge just flipped

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<v Speaker 1>it last year and made players and that Motherfucker was

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<v Speaker 1>a number one smash, a huge record. It's just levels

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention. This is most likely one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most important, if not the most important, reason that the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Master Flash and Furious Five were the first hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop act inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's most likely because of the song the Message.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's weird that they didn't want to fuck with

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<v Speaker 1>the song, but this song is probably the primary reason.

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<v Speaker 1>No disrespect to the rest of their work. The rest

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<v Speaker 1>of they work get off too, but this particular song

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<v Speaker 1>is a gang changing song and it birth I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like You don't get Kendrick Lamar without the fucking message.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to mail. Shout out to Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>At number five. We right back with my boys, Scarface

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<v Speaker 1>mind playing tricks on me by the Ghetto Boys. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason I give Scarface so much created is Scarface wrote

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<v Speaker 1>three of the four verses. It was a Scarface solo song.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Prince thought it was a good idea and he

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<v Speaker 1>thought it could break the Ghetto Boys. Jay Prince was right.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Jay Prince that motherfucker don't be missing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first song in hip hop to address mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, all these motherfuckers is crazy on mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear all these motherfuckers talking about anxiety and all

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<v Speaker 1>this shit, and.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first song.

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<v Speaker 1>See it comes across as guilty conscious for being this way,

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<v Speaker 1>but really it's a take on anxiety back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety fucking one. Most people don't know Scarface wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>song because he's been through a lot of traumatic shit.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a time Scarface tried to kill himself and

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<v Speaker 1>got put into a like an asylum. At least that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I heard. Like, Scarface is a deep person, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you border that type of deepness. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous and it probably could be dangerous to your health

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<v Speaker 1>and to your livelihood. So Scarface is brilliant at a cost,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he don't go to these places for free. This

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<v Speaker 1>shit cost him sometime before, I would imagine, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way you could be that fucking deep because and

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<v Speaker 1>not been to those places where you thought about, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, ending life.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind playing tricks on Me is just a simple old

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<v Speaker 1>expression from Southerners, you know what I mean, when something's

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<v Speaker 1>going on and they're like, I'm tripping. Most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it was self produced. Scarface produced mind playing tricks

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<v Speaker 1>on Me. It's another thing again, Scarface is such an

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<v Speaker 1>underrated talent in music, and that's saying a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Scarf gets a lot of props, but he deserves a

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>lot more props. Shout out to n O Joe, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Mike Dean. But they will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>Scarface was just as vested in the production. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>right now, when that motherfucker jump on stage to do

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<v Speaker 1>a show, that motherfucker jump up there with a guitar

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<v Speaker 1>and be playing that motherfucker. This song established the South

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<v Speaker 1>in the gangster rap realm this single song to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the country. I'm sure the South had more

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<v Speaker 1>songs before this, but this was the first time to

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the country, the South planet their flag like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh we hear this is the real the South got

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<v Speaker 1>something to say moment shout out to our cast, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Dre but ghetto boys. Mind Playing Tricks was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that the South put they motherfucking flag

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<v Speaker 1>in the sand in the West, the Midwest, and the

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<v Speaker 1>East collectively and said the South got something to say, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody decided to fucking listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Cuddy personally says it inspired day and Night. So

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<v Speaker 1>just like Scarfaces, I've seen a man die, inspire Tupacs

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<v Speaker 1>shed so many tears, mind Playing Tricks on me inspire

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<v Speaker 1>Kid cut He's day and Night. And I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with Cutty's music, but that's that might make me

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to it a lot more times because

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it enough times and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do see the correlations.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that's true, man, shout out to Cutty, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's ill as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>You flip the shit out that that's player. I fuck

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>At number four and a lot of motherfuckers it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hate this. It's stand by Eminem. I mean, everybody fucking

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<v Speaker 1>knows stand. The term stand is so popular the term

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<v Speaker 1>may have escaped the popularity of the song because a

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>stand is how you talk with somebody who's just stalking you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's in addition to the culture niggas is calling each

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 1>other stands, that nigga's a stand because you are a

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<v Speaker 1>stalker or you are a groupie to something somebody else

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>is doing. The motherfucker had a clean version to the

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lyrics and it still got over censored. Certain words got

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>oversensured because that's how scared and fearful they were of what.

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<v Speaker 2>Eminem's and fluid could be with his lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's most likely Eminem's greatest song. Eminem got number one songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Stan didn't chart number one, but there's probably

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>no greater hip hop contribution than Stan. Shout out to

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of the dope records. But Stan is

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<v Speaker 1>that shit, and it's self fucking produced. Nobody talks about

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>his self produced. He did that with forty five King.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to forty five King because he's another motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>want to do your homework on forty five King forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>King is Crazy. Eminem mixed the song hisself. That motherfucker

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>mixed the song himself with Dre back then he's still

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>mix the song itself. That's pretty dope. Doctor Dre and

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Philip Atwell directed the video. And when I tell you

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they got that video right, man, I can't stress it enough.

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dre is another god to me who directs music

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<v Speaker 1>videos that don't get enough credit.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Dre actually also.

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Directed None but the G Thing, two iconic videos standing

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>None but the g Thing, but again Eminem at number four,

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<v Speaker 1>you Feel Me with stan as one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten greatest stories in hip hop history. Number three, we

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<v Speaker 1>right back to the East Coast and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest story ever told from a New York MC. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a Friend by biz Mark rest in Peace. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Just a Friend by biz Mark, rest in Peace. That

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>was one of the earliest times we learned about skeezers

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<v Speaker 1>at a high level through hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a Friend by biz Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, New York don't respect what biz Mark

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<v Speaker 1>due as an MC. Even though his style burst old

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 1>dirty bastard. His style is influential with buston rhymes. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, the biasness of what you think a

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<v Speaker 1>punchline is versus the ability to deliver a message and

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<v Speaker 1>get it across. Biz Mark at number three with Just

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<v Speaker 1>a Friend is the third greatest story ever in hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop history. It's self produced with Karma. Shout out to

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Karas Carmen o' get no credit. Biz Mark DJ helped

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>on it as well. I think the video was produced

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>by Bennie Madena, who later on goes to do Fresh

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Prince of bel Air. I'm sure y'all heard of that

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<v Speaker 1>show before once or twice. This is one of the

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>earliest times someone in hip hop sang their own hook.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>And when everybody I heard everybody was in the studio

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>there was like, Man, you're gonna let be a single

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>hook on this motherfucker.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>He like, man, this shit feel good.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Like biz is not credited with his creativity, Like I

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>heard somebody call him a one hit wonder, and I

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>get it because if they're talking about Billboard charts, maybe

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a conversation. But within the culture, Bier's got a

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>few joints, vapors being another one. But again, we live

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in the word world, so we live in a weird world.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>The fucked upest part about the ideas. Biz never made

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a dime off the record.

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's the sample, I'm not sure

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>if the label's holding the asset. But Biz and the

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>producers never made a single cent off the record sales,

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>royalties or publishing. They had to go tour for that money,

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>all Rob Peter biz Man. Nobody beats the biz Dog,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>like y'all niggas is tripping. Respect the Big, Respect the Nods,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>respect the Killer, ghost Face Killer, respect the Ray.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>But let's be for real, man.

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>It's the fucking biz Dog, just a friend nigga like

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>stop front like this shit ain't the one like you.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>How many metaphors and similar as you put in your

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking wraps. When the message gets across, that's what this

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>shit is about. At number two, today was a good

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>day by ice q This is why I laugh when

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>people tell me Big is a better storyteller than ICEQE.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>You can prefer big stories, you can.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Say they're better. I'm not even mad at that.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>If you like them better, fine, But when we're talking

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>about sheer greatness, today was a good day. It's possibly

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the greatest story in hip hop ever. Like, people of

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>all ages know today was a good day. People know

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>what happened to him when you got him on the court.

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>When you got him on the court, it was trouble.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what he did Right now? Motherfuckers is still debating.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>What's he playing a game of twenty one? I seen

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>this shit the other day on Twitter.

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Mother was like, well, he got a triple double playing

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty What he just say that in the song.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Diddy, I don't know shit. Old on they did Ice Cubes.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, Get me on the court and I'm trouble

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>last week, fuck around and got a triple double. He

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>was a good day and everything. Get hold of there though,

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything is all right. I got a beat.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>From Kim and she can fuck all night haul.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>The homies and I'm asking y'all which point which part

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>are y'all playing basketball? Get me on the court and

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm trouble last week? Fuck around and got a triple double.

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Freaking niggas every way like MJ. And he's talking about

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Magic Johnson nigga, now Michael Jordan, the original MJ Nigga

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>produced by DJ Pool. So again, when I tell you,

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>ice Cube is possibly, in arguably the greatest storyteller in

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>hip hop. They did go right Friday, which is another

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>ice Cube story. Then he wrote number ten on the

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>list right, which is boys in the Hood. I'm not

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>even talking about the fact we had to mention. He

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>wrote check yourself, which is another story. This is how

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>popular ice Que stories are. This story was unique for

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>ICEQ because this is when he's finally winning. Like a

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of ice Q's music was angry and problematic because

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he was going through it seeing stuff in this community.

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>He didn't like falling out with friends, getting at the points,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but this one was when he finally was winning, which

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>is the same story behind Friday.

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>The Hood wasn't always bad.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to show people that niggas still get it

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>on and have a good time. There are bloggers who

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<v Speaker 1>to this day research to try to figure out the

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>day that today was a good day. They're trying to

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>figure out the good day that this shit happened on,

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and they have done work. They have came up with

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>two days, January twentieth, nineteen ninety two, or November thirty

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty eight.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>This is how fucking awesome.

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>The story of today was a good day prim exactly

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like Big has a fantastic story.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>What I got his story to tell?

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Right And people spent a lot of time trying to

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>figure out which one of the Knicks players wives did

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he sleep with or girls that he slept with, and

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>end up.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Finding out its Anthony Mason. Rest in peace to Anthony.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Mason's this is not this is what's been happening with

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Cube the whole time. Right now, they're still telling stories

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>saying how did he get a triple double in the

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Game of twenty one? Right now this is a question,

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's not just one question, it's multiple questions about

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>this song. Fast forward to twenty fourteen. They struck a

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>deal with Goodyear Blimp for a motherfucking a.

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Charity called a Place call Home that looks out for.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Urban kids coming up in the streets, trying to get

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>them a place together to chill and hang and get

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>their shit on. And they did a deal with the

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>good Year Blim and it read ice cubes of pimp

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Like that type of iconic shit don't happen from hip

0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>hop's stories.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how iconic today was a good day.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck if you think the game

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is about punchlines as symblies and all that. The game

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>is about motherfuckers getting the message. You could be as

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>weirdy as you won't if motherfuckers don't get the message.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And when it comes down to getting the message, today

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>was a good day. It's probably the message that everybody understood.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's still number two. That's the fuck that part.

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Even with all this discussion, it's still number two. The

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<v Speaker 1>greatest story in the history of hip hop is Regulating.

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<v Speaker 1>Regulate by Warren G and Nate Dog. Regulate by Warren

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>G and Nate Dog. Everybody knows the story of regulating.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody we could talk about, Oh well, I feel like

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Warren G.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the way he shut the fuck up.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They introduced Nate DOGG as a singing component that changed

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the face of hip hop from that point on with

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>how we.

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<v Speaker 2>Did records, with the singing, back and forth with the vocals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's levels, it's self produced by Warren G. Self produced

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>by Warren G. It launched the career of Warren G

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and Nate Dog. When Death Row. When Warren G couldn't

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>get on with Death Row, he made a fucking song

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that was so big that he created his own lane.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It turned Nate Dog from some niggas singing on hooks

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>song Droctor Dre and Snoop album into Nate dog that

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>we know.

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>That's the reason we know Nate Dogg is because of.

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Regula at the highest level, not glasses glasses nose, motherfucking

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Nate Dog from all the death Row shit and all

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucking Doggies damn shit. But the rest of you

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers know Nate Dogg because of Regulator. And I don't

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>got to tell you it's confortble well, this is the

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>single song that launched his career. That single song saved

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>death Jam. Death Jam up to that point had never

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>had a song that charted as high as Regulate.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about commercial fuck all that,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>but listen to the point of this. All of those

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>records from death Jam that go back from eighty to

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety fucking four had never been as high on

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the chart as Regulate. So some niggas from the West

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>came in and saved the pride and joy of East

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Coast hip hop death Jam one fucking song.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>One fucking song.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Death Row don't get enough credit because it did come

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>out on Above the Rim soundtrack as well.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And it did well. It did fucking well.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, But this song had to be so hot that

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>mind you, it pushed Afro Puff the number two, which

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>is another classic hip hop song, but it had to

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>come second to regulate, not to mention cuz it's the

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>first single on the above the Rim soundtrack. S WV

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>is on that soundtrack. WV was an established success. Their

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>song is not the first single. H Town is an

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>established success. This song is not the first single. Dog

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Pound is out right. They're still figuring it out right,

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>but this is the year before the next album come out.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>But Warren g is in front of them with this song.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Second to None.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Had a hit already, but their song wasn't the first single.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Pac with Thug Life had a single on here. That

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>song wasn't motherfucking the first single.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll be sure.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Who is an established success. It's on this motherfucking project.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 1>But that song wasn't the first single.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 1>The first motherfucker is single was from the motherfucking from

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucking the bud.

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>The Rim soundtrack. You know what I mean? Two seconds

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to think about it.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>The first single is regulating, So I don't give a

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>fuck when you have these conversations and you start talking

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>about your preference. Man, it's hard to have these conversations

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>if everybody gonna talk about they prefer their preference. DUBC

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>The Shadiest One is possibly the greatest storytelling album of

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>all time.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 2>It's my favorite. It's one of the best ones.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not gonna argue with it against certain things

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that have performed.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 2>At the highest level.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you what I prefer Tonight by DJ Quick.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite stories, just like Compton by

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>DJ Quick. It's one of my favorite stories. But I'm

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna compare it to Beiz Marquis just a friend.

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that. Not when we're talking about

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>something we can have a conversation about. I don't gotta

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>like something because you don't have to like something to

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>understand his greatness.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>This is silly.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Everybody in their motherfucking mother knows today was a good day.

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it not lyrical enough for you? Like? What kind

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 2>of dumb assh are you talking about? Like this shit

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>be stupid.

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>There's greatness and then there's not greatness. It's as simple

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>as that greatness is. When it's quantifiable. We could talk

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>about preference all day. I prefer this. I prefer this.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>That don't mean something is greater.

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>In and out.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Listen, five guys makes a better burden than McDonald's. But

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>five guys ain't greater than McDonald's.

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just not true.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Y'all gotta start having these conversations from places that exist

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>just out of yourself. Hip hop is a representation of us.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to one of my little partners, my

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>little putner Real feel Me from out of DC, and

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>he was like, well, you know, there's no way nobody

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna give prosecute over motherfucking Biggie. And I'm like, you

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have to take props away from Biggie to give

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>him the cue. You can honestly just tell the truth.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>That don't change the fact that motherfucking Big was the guy.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna honor the conversation of.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Who's a better artist. That's just ridiculous.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Big didn't even have enough albums, you know what I

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>mean for us to see his full potential. We can

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>just enjoy what he's done. It's like arguing if bo

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Jackson is the greatest running back, he don't have the

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>career enough to motherfucking quantably. You know, we can't quantify

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>he don't have enough motherfucking seasons.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>You can't compare.

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>This motherfucker to Emmy Smith. Emmis Smith carried a fucking franchise.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Some of these conversations. And it ain't just about sales,

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't just about chart positioning, but those things matter

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how people find a song. That's how people

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<v Speaker 1>find the song. If you have a fantastic story that

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<v Speaker 1>only three people have heard versus somebody who has a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic story that thirty million people have heard, it don't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much you preferred the story of that three

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<v Speaker 1>people heard. Greatness is being there's somebody at the park

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<v Speaker 1>probably better than Michael Jordan, there's somebody probably at the

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<v Speaker 1>park better than Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 2>That don't change Lebron James. It's the greatest small ford

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get how you don't get these conversations when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about great things like you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be skewed.

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<v Speaker 2>It don't have to be biased.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's weird when I hear people say that my

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<v Speaker 1>generation or people my age can be biased. Everybody above

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five grew up. If you in LA. You grew

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<v Speaker 1>up off of East Coast hip hop. When you first

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<v Speaker 1>heard hip hop, most likely it came from somebody from

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast. Most likely it probably was LF fucking

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<v Speaker 1>cool JA. If you was born in eighty two, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the hip hop you first heard was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>LLL fucking cool Jay, maybe run DMC. You heard jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z as much as you heard everybody else. You heard

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<v Speaker 1>Big as much as you heard everybody else. Because in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles they play everything. During the East Coast West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast supposed war, they played Biggie Biggie Steel had the

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<v Speaker 1>number one record at all the radio stations in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was never a real ward. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the island, bro, this same New York. This ain't over there.

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<v Speaker 1>They play all the shit here. We well vested in

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking culture. We hear everything. We got out cast

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<v Speaker 1>early first album, we got Big, first album, we got

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<v Speaker 1>ll all the albums. One of the earliest radio stations

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<v Speaker 1>in ll Cooch that got played on was KD. So

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<v Speaker 1>we grow up with an understanding of hip hop that

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<v Speaker 1>most people stuck on the island, as I say, half

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<v Speaker 1>island fever. They don't have you guys only know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on on the island. You don't know what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>off the island.

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<v Speaker 2>You just don't know. You just don't know. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not mad at.

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<v Speaker 1>You, but you motherfuckers can't talk hip hop with the

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers that grew up off the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we heard it all. We heard the shit that

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<v Speaker 2>was little in New York. Y'all don't know shit about

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<v Speaker 2>the shadiest one shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's weird when you start comparing motherfuckers with the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest stories in the history of the genre to motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 1>you just like, respect the big but it's just levels.

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<v Speaker 1>Respect the nas cuz, but it's levels respect the ghost

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<v Speaker 1>face cuz.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's levels.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're talking about a motherfucker that got some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular stories in the history of the fucking world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing motherfucking to like, you know. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to like a rapper. It's another thing to know

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Seuss. It's another thing. Ice Cube is the motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare is shit. This is how much motherfuckers know his stories.

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta get y'all shipped together. Man, good looking out

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning into the No Seller's podcast. Please do us

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.