Speaker 1: Hell I Suck at Dating with Belt and Jared Haven.
Speaker 1: I heart radio podcast. Hello friends, welcome to help I
Speaker 1: Suck at Dating. I'm Jared Haven is always joined by
Speaker 1: Dean Anglert on the other side of the country, Tories
Speaker 1: not with us today we have Eastern, which is a
Speaker 1: nice little surprise, the Eastern. How are you first and foremost?
Speaker 1: We haven't heard from you in like four years. I'm great. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a listener to this show for
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and it's been really fun.
Speaker 1: You guys do a good a good program. You know,
Speaker 1: it's been fun seeing it from a different perspective. But
Speaker 1: it's nice to be back. Do we have to pay
Speaker 1: you to say that? Yeah? No, I'm a fan. I
Speaker 1: you know I haven't subscribed on my on my apps,
Speaker 1: you know, I listen. I'm one of those downloads, one
Speaker 1: of the many thousands of downloads listen Eastern. We get
Speaker 1: it you. You are basically a mainstable of scrubbing in
Speaker 1: with Patili on your ad now, so we appreciate you
Speaker 1: jumping over and uh putting some of that sprinkle on
Speaker 1: on to help my second dating. Yeah, get us some
Speaker 1: scrubbing in listeners. Bro post on your Instagram, They'll come over.
Speaker 1: Do you you know something? Though? Whenever I do post
Speaker 1: one Instagram, do you any d M s? I get
Speaker 1: saying what are Dean and Jared? Really? Like? That's something
Speaker 1: I get that all the time. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I gotta say Eastern for Father's Day? Did some Father's
Speaker 1: Day shout outs to his obviously to his father. I
Speaker 1: was shocked by him. He's like he was like a
Speaker 1: stern uh military man. And I guess I've never really
Speaker 1: pictured what your father would look like, but it wasn't that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's um, he's he's a lot larger than me. For
Speaker 1: for everyone listening at home, I'm, you know, six five
Speaker 1: two pounds and ripped some jack. No, I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: thin and my dad is very large. He's a he's
Speaker 1: a bodybuilder and he's a police officer and he's a
Speaker 1: very intimidating person. Did you ever want to get into
Speaker 1: uh you know, bodybuilding more working out sports? Uh you know,
Speaker 1: maybe becoming a police officer like your dad? You know?
Speaker 1: I uh, I go through periods where I would live
Speaker 1: waits a lot and then I would stop. But my
Speaker 1: my heart's not in it, So you really got to
Speaker 1: be into that thing to to make it work. And UM,
Speaker 1: and I was going to be a police officer for
Speaker 1: a very long time. I was studying it in school
Speaker 1: and everything, because UM, I had no direction and I
Speaker 1: thought I could just do that. But then I got
Speaker 1: bit by the radio bug and I never looked back.
Speaker 1: And I think it's worth you pointed out in your
Speaker 1: Instagram stories that your father was in the service for
Speaker 1: thirty years and didn't discharge his firearm one once, which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Not once. UM, I think he pulled
Speaker 1: it a couple of times. We never we never fired it. Um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's very proud of that. Uh. And he
Speaker 1: thinks that, UM, I don't know, I wanted let's get
Speaker 1: too serious, but you know, law enforcement has a big
Speaker 1: problem and always has with escalation of force and uh
Speaker 1: and learning how to deal with tense situations where where
Speaker 1: violence might happen. And he always felt that, UM, officers
Speaker 1: go too quick to something that is uh, you know,
Speaker 1: potentially going to leave someone very injured or possibly dead. Uh.
Speaker 1: So the last couple of weeks have been very, um,
Speaker 1: frustrating for him as a former officer. And UH, it's
Speaker 1: just interesting to get his take on on you know,
Speaker 1: the change that we're seeing in the country. Don't imagine, Well, Jared,
Speaker 1: how are you doing over there? I'm doing well, Eastern.
Speaker 1: Just bounce off that really quickly. That's pretty cool to
Speaker 1: hear about your father's opinion. I mean, I feel bad that,
Speaker 1: you know, he he's a police officer and you know,
Speaker 1: has to kind of look introspectively at his fellow officers.
Speaker 1: But it's pretty uh, pretty stand uppish about your father's opinion.
Speaker 1: But doing well, Uh, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm starting to lose it over here a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not gonna lie. I just feel like
Speaker 1: I don't have motivation to do anything. I'm really I
Speaker 1: don't want to work out anymore. As you can see,
Speaker 1: I still have my band and on that's given me
Speaker 1: a little motivation. Do you guys find that when you
Speaker 1: lack motivation working out, you like put on a shirt
Speaker 1: that makes you feel stronger, or like a bandana or
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I guess it's kind of music
Speaker 1: similar like if I listened to a particular song that
Speaker 1: gets me in the mood, but for some reason, uh,
Speaker 1: shirts and like working out a tire gets me in
Speaker 1: the mood too. I don't know, I'm weird like that.
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, just pretty bored. Knock on wood,
Speaker 1: staying healthy. Everybody's healthy over here. Not really sure what
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing for the near future. I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna head back to l A at some point,
Speaker 1: because you know, that's where all our stuff is. But
Speaker 1: that's where we're at, man, that's where Ashley and I
Speaker 1: are at. We're doing well. If the worst thing I
Speaker 1: can complain about is losing my sanity a little bit,
Speaker 1: then I have nothing to complain about, right If you're
Speaker 1: if you're only complaining about a bandana, that things are
Speaker 1: pretty good. It sounds like, uh but Dean, how the
Speaker 1: hell are you? You've lost like ten pounds and I
Speaker 1: mean that because you have no more hair on the
Speaker 1: top of your head. Yeah, all off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, my ball. Well I'm not really bald anymore,
Speaker 1: but I've got very short hair. It looks really good.
Speaker 1: You're a very good looking human being in the middle
Speaker 1: of that sentence, which makes me think you were being
Speaker 1: a little in authentic, but it had expected it too,
Speaker 1: so I'm okay with it. Dean you know that I
Speaker 1: think you're the best looking male I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my entire life. Yeah, but I hear you say the
Speaker 1: same thing nixt same thing to Ben and and Tanner,
Speaker 1: so it's I just take it with a big grain
Speaker 1: of salt. I appreciate you. Definitely haven't told that to
Speaker 1: Tanner I need to. But yeah, that bald life has
Speaker 1: been pretty good. Uh. You know, my head is adjusting
Speaker 1: used to it's used to having this ten inch long
Speaker 1: hair on it. So when I shaved it, it it was,
Speaker 1: you know, there was some dry skin, but that's all
Speaker 1: basically picks it up, and yeah, it's going good. So
Speaker 1: I just too because you post it on your Instagram.
Speaker 1: But we haven't talked to you since you cut your hair,
Speaker 1: so you haven't How long was it since the last
Speaker 1: time you actually really cut your hair? And then why
Speaker 1: did you cut your hair? It was October maybe September
Speaker 1: two eighteen was the last time I actually like got
Speaker 1: that that high fade that everyone seems to get. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then I started growing it out and then yeah,
Speaker 1: Klein and I decided we wanted to raise some money
Speaker 1: for a charity we believed in, a Black Lives Matter charity,
Speaker 1: and when I was thinking about it, I was like,
Speaker 1: Initially I was like, all right, ten thousand dollars, uh,
Speaker 1: and I'll shade my headball. I was like, not ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to twenty dollars, and I was like, that's
Speaker 1: like probably still too easy to Let's make it like
Speaker 1: impossible and make it like fifty thou dollars. And then we,
Speaker 1: uh yeah. We organized this go fund me and we
Speaker 1: raised forty seven thousand dollars in the first twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: And then I woke up the next morning and I
Speaker 1: realized that I was gonna have to shape my head
Speaker 1: balls because we had reached our fundraising goal literally in
Speaker 1: thirty six hours, which blew my mind, but I was
Speaker 1: still to have to do it anyways. Um, I was
Speaker 1: trying to find like ways out of shaving my head, like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's raise another fifty thousand to keep Deans hair and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's a cop out. We set this as our goal.
Speaker 1: We hit her goal, and so now it's time to
Speaker 1: shave it a lot. And honestly, like as much as
Speaker 1: I love my long hair, practically speaking, short hair is
Speaker 1: so much easier to like just work with I don't
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning with like hair in my mouth.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not like eating eggs in the morning
Speaker 1: and like shoving yolk into my hair. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, so the short hair is a
Speaker 1: little more practical, which is nice eating eggs in the morning.
Speaker 1: Is there some sort of correlation between eating eggs in
Speaker 1: the morning and long hair? Well, like I think about
Speaker 1: like a sunnyside up egg when you're putting in your mouth,
Speaker 1: like sometimes your hair gets in your mouth. Like that's
Speaker 1: when I'm saying, Like the hair was so long it
Speaker 1: was like get in front of my mouth as I
Speaker 1: was like shoveling food into it and then hair. I
Speaker 1: used to have hair down on my shoulders in high
Speaker 1: school and um I worked in an amusement park and
Speaker 1: I remember on my break one day, I was eating
Speaker 1: a deep fried twinkie and it was a windy day
Speaker 1: and I went to take a bite and it blew
Speaker 1: the hair right in the path of my mouth in
Speaker 1: the twinkie. As I got a big mouthful of just
Speaker 1: like curly thick hair and deep fried twinkie, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta change everything about this situation. It's
Speaker 1: something you never really consider when you have long hair,
Speaker 1: but then it starts happening. You're like, Okay, what's going on? Uh?
Speaker 1: And honestly, like show houring is a lot easier now
Speaker 1: I just jumped in the shower. I don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about my hair drying for an hour. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: grow back out. I'm not gonna cut it again for
Speaker 1: two or three years. But we did donate the hair
Speaker 1: to children with hair loss too, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a double lammy of donating the hair and having
Speaker 1: met our thunders and goals. So did they accept it
Speaker 1: because I remember watching your Instagram and you said you
Speaker 1: were a little worried about that because it might have
Speaker 1: been too short to donate. Yeah, they did. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna use it or not, but
Speaker 1: we'll see um. But yeah, now we're just on the
Speaker 1: growth tair and I've been taking hair growing supplements. Really,
Speaker 1: what is it, sugar bear hair? No, no, your bear,
Speaker 1: but hey, sugar bar, if you're listening to this, you
Speaker 1: guys want to like sponsor me for the next two
Speaker 1: years and be the catalyst to my hair growth by
Speaker 1: all means, jump on board. Just be ready to open
Speaker 1: up the pocketbook, if you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: how much money have you guys raised? We raised like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, and that's only over a couple of days.
Speaker 1: We actually turned it off after a while because while
Speaker 1: we like that people were donating, we also a lottery off,
Speaker 1: like a camping trip with Kaylin and I um, and
Speaker 1: we announced our winning the day that we shaved our head,
Speaker 1: and we kind of felt bad that people were donating
Speaker 1: thinking that they might still win the camping trip. Um,
Speaker 1: So we closed donations, but we were happy with with
Speaker 1: what we hit and uh yeah it was pretty cool. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it. That's why my hair is short.
Speaker 1: Now I'm growing my mustache back out. He looks good.
Speaker 1: I like it as as one guy who's who has
Speaker 1: like kind of long hair. Now my question fused Dean,
Speaker 1: when you had long hair, how many times did you
Speaker 1: wash your hair? I'd probably watch it like once a week. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. Yeah. Ashley is not happy about that. She
Speaker 1: wants to wash it more. She thinks at least three times.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's like every other day. I think it's
Speaker 1: way too much. That's too much, and honestly, like the
Speaker 1: best it would look is like probably day three after
Speaker 1: washing it. So it's like you don't even look your
Speaker 1: best until the third day. So maybe twice a week,
Speaker 1: but that's pushing it. I can plaely read this. It's
Speaker 1: like always in my face now, which is why I
Speaker 1: wear the bandanna, even though I kind of look stupid.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like I kind of look like
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise and Rock of Ages, so I'm down what
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I just started growing out because you know,
Speaker 1: four weeks into quarantine, I was like, all right, well
Speaker 1: it's getting a little long and I'm not getting a
Speaker 1: haircut anytime soon. And then six weeks went by and
Speaker 1: then I was like, I was gonna have Lauren because
Speaker 1: Ashley's sister is now a certified hairdresser and she was
Speaker 1: gonna trim it up. But I was like, I'll just
Speaker 1: grow it out until you know, quarantine ends. And then,
Speaker 1: you know, three and a half months later, were still
Speaker 1: in there. You know, kind of we're reopening, but we're
Speaker 1: still kind of in quarantine, and so I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I might as well just grow it out
Speaker 1: and then I'll just cut it at some point I
Speaker 1: can see that once quarantine is over and you're like
Speaker 1: back in l A and barbershops are open, you're gonna like,
Speaker 1: maybe not do it because you're gonna miss it too much.
Speaker 1: That's what I hope for. At least I'm gonna trim it,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep it. I think I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it along. Why not? I mean, one of
Speaker 1: us have to have long hair on this podcast team,
Speaker 1: and if it's not gonna be you, then you know,
Speaker 1: I'll be the one. It used to be Vanessa and
Speaker 1: Sa left us. Then it was me. Now it's not
Speaker 1: me anymore, so now it's got to be you. I mean,
Speaker 1: Easton's got a nice chunk of hair over there too, though,
Speaker 1: Do you plan on cutting it? You're just gonna let
Speaker 1: it grow, you know. I I got mine cut in
Speaker 1: November tween eighteen. I was last time to cut it,
Speaker 1: um and it's getting annoying. But I also kind of
Speaker 1: like it, so I don't know. I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: for Easton has a whole different beast because he's got
Speaker 1: the curls, which I didn't have to deal with that. Jared.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look you do either. I just had like
Speaker 1: some waves. But the curls I don't even know, Like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know where to begin maintaining that. That's
Speaker 1: just like a whole different beast. You know, it keeps
Speaker 1: out of my face, which I appreciate because it goes
Speaker 1: up instead of down. You want know who you look like?
Speaker 1: Who do I look like? Oh? Actually, okay, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say sideshow Bob, all right, I got that. Let
Speaker 1: But now that I'm seeing you in the zoom screen,
Speaker 1: you look a lot like David Dobrick. Wow. Wow, um,
Speaker 1: I I wasn't prepared for that. Oh my goodness, Easton. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Eastern on zoom. He just got taken back. Literally,
Speaker 1: you slid your chair back. People. He's an attractive guy, right,
Speaker 1: I think he's hot. You look like David Dobrick. I've
Speaker 1: never heard that before. I'm getting heavy David d d
Speaker 1: vibes from you right now. I get a lot of uh,
Speaker 1: little Dickie. People say it looks like a little Dickie
Speaker 1: a lot, and uh yeah, and uh David. Okay, I
Speaker 1: can see that he's a YouTuber. Yeah, he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of followers, and he's the other guy. You got
Speaker 1: little Dickie, who's a a rapper. You've got a little
Speaker 1: Dickie's listen. I'm a very um um. I'm an old soul.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
Speaker 1: anybody anymore. It's so bad. I don't watch TV. I
Speaker 1: don't listen to the radio. I just like, I literally
Speaker 1: put a song on a camera. What song it was? Oh?
Speaker 1: It was? It was Heartless by the Weekend, and like, man,
Speaker 1: I love this song. I just heard it. And actually's like,
Speaker 1: you just learned about this song. I'm like, yeah, isn't
Speaker 1: it like brand new? I I watched the Pete Davidson
Speaker 1: special and it was on there. She's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: been not for a while. Yeah, well all right, little Dickie. Sorry,
Speaker 1: here we go. Oh yeah, I see a little Dickie.
Speaker 1: I'm still on the David Dobrick train. We got Tom Cruise,
Speaker 1: David Dobrick, and Brad Pitt from Fight Club all in
Speaker 1: the same podcast. Oh my god, you do kind of
Speaker 1: look like Brad Pitt for Fight Club right now. The
Speaker 1: same body, same chisel too. That's Tyler Dirt in Tyler Dirty,
Speaker 1: Tyler Dirt and Tyler Dirt. Anyway, this is such a
Speaker 1: guy's podcast so far right now, I'm sorry for all
Speaker 1: the women listening out there as we're talking about fight
Speaker 1: club and and men's hair. Do you think girls like
Speaker 1: guy's hair longer or shorter? Longer, longer? Definitely in my experience.
Speaker 1: In my experience too, I think there's almost no question.
Speaker 1: I think that a girl can see a man with
Speaker 1: long hair and think that if he has the patience
Speaker 1: to grow his hair out long, he's probably a good dude.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting thought process. Has that been something you
Speaker 1: guys have have, like not struggled with, but in relationships,
Speaker 1: wanted your hair a certain way, but you're like partner
Speaker 1: wanted it a different way. Constantly, Ashley always trying to
Speaker 1: tell me how to dress, what my hair should look like.
Speaker 1: She tells me that I should look the way she
Speaker 1: wants me to look because the only person that I
Speaker 1: should try to look attractive two four is Ashley, Which
Speaker 1: is just a terrible argument, because I want my own confidence,
Speaker 1: Like there are things that I think I look confident in.
Speaker 1: Trying to think of an example right now. It makes
Speaker 1: a pretty good point, though, I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not a bad point. I've talked about this before Caitlin
Speaker 1: tells me I'm hot no matter what I do, which
Speaker 1: is like good and bad. It's great confidence boost. Yeah, hairlong, great,
Speaker 1: short hair, grape mustache fine but fat not fat fine,
Speaker 1: you know, like in shape, out of shape. But I
Speaker 1: think it's just it's breeding a little bit of complacency
Speaker 1: in me, a little bit. And uh, it's it's not
Speaker 1: striving me to hit the gym, like Jared was saying,
Speaker 1: as hard as I should be, I think. But you're right.
Speaker 1: As long as I think that they're your significant other
Speaker 1: is happy with the way that you look, that's basically
Speaker 1: what matters most. I got news for your Dean, and
Speaker 1: don't get too big of a head from this. But
Speaker 1: she's not wrong. I don't think even mustache, long hair,
Speaker 1: short hair jacked or not jacked. I legitimately have not
Speaker 1: seen you. I've never looked at you and been like,
Speaker 1: Dean doesn't look good. I really appreciate it. I feel
Speaker 1: like we should maybe start having this podcast more than
Speaker 1: once a week because this confidence boost is doing a
Speaker 1: lot for me right now. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 1: We're just here to boost your confidence, all right. So
Speaker 1: you think that girls like long hair they're always going
Speaker 1: to say that is because every time I post a
Speaker 1: picture of me and long hair, I get so many
Speaker 1: d m of like cut your hair. Well, here's another thing, too,
Speaker 1: is any guy can have short hair. All it takes
Speaker 1: is a pair of scissors or or an electric razor
Speaker 1: to have short hair. But it takes time, an effort
Speaker 1: to grow your hair out, and patience, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: So I think because theoretically, on average, more people, more men,
Speaker 1: have shorter hair than they do long hair. The long
Speaker 1: hair kind of is like more of a uh an
Speaker 1: interesting thing because less people have it. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I like the shaggy look better too, Like
Speaker 1: I like looking a little disheveled. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I'm not a big pretty boy guy. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're past it. We're past the preppy boy face. I agree.
Speaker 1: So all right, So you think long hair? Do you
Speaker 1: think girls like facial hair or clean shave and better?
Speaker 1: I think facial hair. What do you think I a
Speaker 1: great five o'clock shadow? I think is like the little
Speaker 1: scruff that Easton has right now. I think is that's ideal,
Speaker 1: like short but not too short, but not too long
Speaker 1: but still like you know you can see like the shadow,
Speaker 1: like the five o'clock shadow. It looks like I've been
Speaker 1: working really hard. That's what you're going for, right, and
Speaker 1: and you're pulling it off like Jared for instance, you
Speaker 1: go to that patchy cheek hary and and I'm not
Speaker 1: making fun of you, because I have the exactly I
Speaker 1: have what you have, but the toddler version of it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like the eight year old two year like
Speaker 1: seventeen year old stubble. So I'm kind of bummed. I
Speaker 1: wish I could grow facial hair, but last it's never
Speaker 1: been something I could do. The reason I grow it
Speaker 1: out was because Keiana Reeves has patchy facial hair and
Speaker 1: he rocks it. So I'm like, bro, I just want
Speaker 1: to be more like Kiana Reeves. That's my goal in life.
Speaker 1: Do you think girls like dad boy better or Jack
Speaker 1: dad dad body? Yeah, I'm not a big, big muscle
Speaker 1: guy either. I like athletic bodies. That's what Ashley told
Speaker 1: me to This is weird, but whatever, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm secure in my sexuality. You like men like yeah,
Speaker 1: like I want like what my I want my body
Speaker 1: to look like. I play sports. I wouldn't mind. If
Speaker 1: I had to choose like a body to have in
Speaker 1: all the bachelination, like, I wouldn't mid nicks body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bastard's got a good body. That's son of them. My nipples,
Speaker 1: but I would take the rest of his body. Nipples,
Speaker 1: What do you better nipples than Nick? I think I do.
Speaker 1: I think my nipples are one of my more redeeming
Speaker 1: because attributes great nipples, I have to say, uh there,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of my nipples. He's got a
Speaker 1: great body. I wouldn't mind that, But I just think
Speaker 1: sometimes people are born a little different, a little bit
Speaker 1: more more chiseled than the rest of us. And Nicks
Speaker 1: one of those people. Granted he works out a lot.
Speaker 1: What about you? If you have anyone, anybody in baschelor nation,
Speaker 1: whose body would you have? I probably go with Nick Tyler.
Speaker 1: Cameron's got a good one too, that Bastard. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: couple of good bods right there. Matt James a new bachelor,
Speaker 1: great bod, very jealous, just like anytime anybody has that
Speaker 1: like V look with abs, you know where they have
Speaker 1: a built up chest. But then the V because that's
Speaker 1: my problem right there, I still have like some some
Speaker 1: fat around the waist. So when I put my bathing
Speaker 1: suit on, like it's a little muffin topish and it's
Speaker 1: just like, damn it. I want to be able to
Speaker 1: wear swim trunks or shorts with no shirt and just
Speaker 1: like have that v you know that's a good look,
Speaker 1: like Brad Pitt. You know you would know in fight club.
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, and exactly what we're talking about. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: well let's move this discussion on. We do have to
Speaker 1: take a little break. But after the break, we have
Speaker 1: a guest on who created a dating app that surrounds
Speaker 1: that's all about dogs, which sounds pretty amazing to me,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna want to miss it. But before
Speaker 1: we talk to her, let's say a quick break. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to help I suck dating. We have a very
Speaker 1: special guests who's on the line right now. She is
Speaker 1: the co founder of the dating app dig, which is
Speaker 1: for people who live a dog forward lifestyle. I'm not
Speaker 1: even single, but I love this dating app because anything
Speaker 1: with dogs is great. We have Lee isaac Son on
Speaker 1: the line. Lee, how are you? Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: help by second Dating. I'm doing so great. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys for having me on and I love you guys
Speaker 1: being dog people too. I don't. I don't trust people
Speaker 1: who aren't dog people. Yeah, that's kind of the point
Speaker 1: of the dating app that that's true. So so tell
Speaker 1: us Lee, So you are a co founder of this
Speaker 1: dating app called dig, which is, like we said, for
Speaker 1: people who have a dog forward lifestyle. So why did
Speaker 1: you want to create a dating app that surrounded about
Speaker 1: dogs and then tell us about the experience on the app. Sure, well,
Speaker 1: it all started with my very single sister. You know,
Speaker 1: my sister was dating a guy who tried to be
Speaker 1: a dog person for her, but by the end of
Speaker 1: the relationship he didn't want the dog in his a
Speaker 1: artment or he'd put towels down on the couch so
Speaker 1: the dog didn't touch anything. And she said, I wish
Speaker 1: I just knew from the start that this wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: work because of my dog. And like you said, we're
Speaker 1: talking about dog forward lifestyles for a reason. It's not
Speaker 1: just one thing you have in common. A dog means,
Speaker 1: you know, way more than just a pet. It's how
Speaker 1: you spend your money, how you spend your time, you know,
Speaker 1: how you travel, maybe how clean you keep your house.
Speaker 1: You know, a dog in the bed or out of
Speaker 1: the bed can be a huge deal breaker for people.
Speaker 1: And so when we were looking at dating apps and
Speaker 1: what we could do to change the world of dating UH,
Speaker 1: we said that you have to have this compatibility factor
Speaker 1: and what's better than just a dating app with more
Speaker 1: dog photos and dog videos? So we knew would be
Speaker 1: a win win. I've got a question for you. So
Speaker 1: when you were describing that, you said something on the
Speaker 1: lines of let your dog sleep in the bed with you.
Speaker 1: Do you know let you I'll do this or that
Speaker 1: on the app? Do you have to specify like my
Speaker 1: dog is it sleeps in it, create my dog sleeps
Speaker 1: in the bed with me, My dog isn't allowed on
Speaker 1: the couch, like those types of small little nuances. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we launched with just a very basic version of the app,
Speaker 1: but in about three weeks we're giving you a lot
Speaker 1: more options to be able to include those details about
Speaker 1: each individual dog too. There's a lot of people in
Speaker 1: there with multiple so we know every dog has their
Speaker 1: own personality and some, you know, might not like other dogs.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to get on dig uh and find
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't have a dog, and we'll just love
Speaker 1: your dog as much as you do. I have a
Speaker 1: dog that chases small dogs around until they collapse, and
Speaker 1: so I knew if I was single, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to find someone with a small dog. So you can
Speaker 1: search by size, temperament, and all sorts of other features.
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny because when when Kaitlin and I first
Speaker 1: started fostering our dog, Pappy, she was like, no, he's
Speaker 1: not going to sleep in the bed with us. By
Speaker 1: the third night sleeping in the bed of us every night,
Speaker 1: she was like, she just got a new couch, and
Speaker 1: she was like, stop letting Peppy up on the couch.
Speaker 1: But I literally did too. She's like picking Peppy up
Speaker 1: and throwing them on the couch. It's just funny how
Speaker 1: how things can change pretty quickly, especially with that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But I do agree with what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, I guess, um, don't take
Speaker 1: that into consideration because it's like, uh, your dog is
Speaker 1: obviously a big part of your life. Jared, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can attest to that too. If you and
Speaker 1: actually weren't together, how much would you have to take
Speaker 1: into consideration what someone thought of your dog. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Lois is like my daughter. If you don't like Lois,
Speaker 1: you're out baby, and you're not. You're not You're out
Speaker 1: of the circle of trust and you're never coming back.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to have a dog to be
Speaker 1: on the app. You just have to be a dog
Speaker 1: lover correct interesting, so you can go on the app.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, as a guy, I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: tons of guys who are like Jackpott, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to post this picture of myself with a dog and
Speaker 1: then just people are gonna fall in love with me. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, on other dating apps people pretend to have
Speaker 1: a dog for that reason. Absolutely, So from the beginning
Speaker 1: on dig we wanted to make sure even if you
Speaker 1: don't have a dog, that you were able to say
Speaker 1: I am a dog lover. I'm looking for someone with
Speaker 1: a dog or to get a dog dog with someone
Speaker 1: in the future. Uh. And actually we were talking about
Speaker 1: Boston earlier. Boston is a great example of a city
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a lot of dog friendly housing, especially
Speaker 1: for single room apartments and things like that. So you
Speaker 1: find a lot of people under the age of thirty
Speaker 1: are looking to date someone with a dog. Compared to
Speaker 1: other cities like l A or Austin that are much
Speaker 1: more dog friendly, and you'll find people of all ages
Speaker 1: more with more dogs. So, uh, we've really learned a
Speaker 1: lot about the difference in dog lifestyles city by city
Speaker 1: doing this too. Oh LA so dog friendly. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I feel like it's not coming from Denver.
Speaker 1: I feel like l A wasn't very dog friendly, Like
Speaker 1: it was kind of challenging at first to even like
Speaker 1: find dog parks sometimes. Well, you've got dog beaches in
Speaker 1: l A. Um, you've got a lot of really cool
Speaker 1: and you know, Denver superdog friendly too, so they're hard
Speaker 1: to compare. But we have been really embedded in the
Speaker 1: dog business world. Uh, And so l A has one
Speaker 1: of my favorite places, the Urban den Dog Retreat, where
Speaker 1: you can take your dogs and learn how give the massages,
Speaker 1: how you can would set people up on dates there
Speaker 1: before and so you can like wash your dogs together,
Speaker 1: but you know, go on hikes together, and they lead
Speaker 1: all these different things. So each city definitely has their
Speaker 1: own dog flare. Well. The reason I say l A
Speaker 1: so dog friendly it was the first time I was
Speaker 1: introduced to dog shoes. I saw a dog walking down
Speaker 1: the sidewalk and he was wearing shoes or she I
Speaker 1: don't know, I shouldn't judge, but uh, I was like,
Speaker 1: dogs have shoes out here, and then I thought, this
Speaker 1: is the most l a thing I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my entire life. But it is a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1: And then of course Lois has shoes now, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of dog parent I am now. Um.
Speaker 1: But also so I was perusing the app a little bit,
Speaker 1: but obviously I'm married, so I can't really sign up
Speaker 1: for a dating app. So I saw pictures though, some
Speaker 1: pictures I saw of just dogs, and then some pictures
Speaker 1: I saw of just humans with dogs, because it kind
Speaker 1: of looked like there was a dog profile. So how
Speaker 1: does the profile get set up? On dig? You log
Speaker 1: in and you say if you're looking for someone with
Speaker 1: a dog or without a dog, or either uh, and
Speaker 1: then you can if you don't have a dog, just
Speaker 1: fill out your own normal profile. If you do have
Speaker 1: a dog or multiple dogs, you've got sections for each
Speaker 1: dog in the features that we're launching very soon. You'll
Speaker 1: be able to say a lot more about those dogs,
Speaker 1: searched by different types of features and attributes to Once
Speaker 1: you match with people, you're able to plan a dog
Speaker 1: friendly date right from the app, So in the messaging area,
Speaker 1: you can search for dog friendly locations dog businesses near
Speaker 1: you and suggest that as a date idea. We also
Speaker 1: show you different deals from different dog companies, and the
Speaker 1: idea with that is, you know, show up with a
Speaker 1: unique treat, wind pappy over from the start. That side
Speaker 1: of the idea. I love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: So do do you have I'm assuming you have a dog.
Speaker 1: How many dogs you have? I have one dog? She
Speaker 1: was my flower dog in our wedding recently, Kenny, Yes,
Speaker 1: do you guys ever plan? Obviously? Look, we all love dogs,
Speaker 1: but is there any talk or any potential for like
Speaker 1: other animals, Like, Look, I love parrots and I want
Speaker 1: to meet someone else that loves parrots too. Are you
Speaker 1: ready to break some news on the Help I Seek
Speaker 1: a Dating podcast? We are launching Tabby the Cat Person's
Speaker 1: Dating App, uh, and we are doing that with the
Speaker 1: help of actual cat people. I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 1: that I am the understanding, you know, knowing all being
Speaker 1: of all animals, but we've got some really awesome cat
Speaker 1: influencers who will be leading Tabby the Cat Person's Dating
Speaker 1: App we're launching on International Cat Day in August. Nice,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, that's big news. You heard it here first, folks,
Speaker 1: you heard it exactly. Tabby Dates dot Com coming in August.
Speaker 1: The cat dating app. So we have our dog dating
Speaker 1: app Dig. Now we're gonna have our cat dating app.
Speaker 1: Um and so Dig is out right now. People can
Speaker 1: go down loan it, sign up for it. But also
Speaker 1: there is a v I P version of Dig that
Speaker 1: is coming out in July. Correct, yes, absolutely, that will
Speaker 1: have the additional features. But if you sign up for
Speaker 1: the basic version now, you'll get the v I P
Speaker 1: version for free when it comes out. Very exciting. So
Speaker 1: make sure you guys all go out download Dig right now.
Speaker 1: The dog dating app. If you're looking for somebody who
Speaker 1: loves dogs. If you're single, of course, yeah, you need
Speaker 1: to get off now that you've prused the app. We
Speaker 1: don't want anybody on there. I didn't download it up
Speaker 1: relationships here, no, no, no no. I went to the
Speaker 1: app store. I was I was looking. That's where I
Speaker 1: saw the pictures on the app store. I didn't download it.
Speaker 1: I almost did, though, I almost. I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: actually be like, listen, I just want to see you
Speaker 1: know this is for research purposes. But then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna go down for the dog photos, right,
Speaker 1: just like dog friend dates. Like if let's say I'm
Speaker 1: in a relationship with the dog and i just want
Speaker 1: to like find another guy or girl not looking for
Speaker 1: something romantic that just wants to like take her dogs
Speaker 1: and like hang out with the dogs somewhere, going to
Speaker 1: hike whatever it is. You guys have that option. We
Speaker 1: don't have that option on the app, but we do
Speaker 1: throw dog friendly events across the country. So we've thrown
Speaker 1: events in seventeen cities now across the country. Some of
Speaker 1: them are speed dating with your Dog events, which are
Speaker 1: kind of awesome, um, but most of them are just
Speaker 1: incorporating as many local rescues and dog business does as possible.
Speaker 1: Picture it like a really fun trade show with thirty
Speaker 1: dog businesses giving you, you know, dog massages, treats, bandannas,
Speaker 1: all sorts of things, and you can meet the other people.
Speaker 1: And those are not usually singles events. They're just ways
Speaker 1: to hang out with your dog and have a beer.
Speaker 1: And then do you have any of those coming up?
Speaker 1: Even even though COVID we don't have any with COVID,
Speaker 1: which is why we were able to focus back on
Speaker 1: the app itself and release all the new features. Um,
Speaker 1: but we would love to go out and start doing
Speaker 1: those events again as soon as we can. I think
Speaker 1: it's such a good idea. I can't imagine. I'm like
Speaker 1: trying to like rack my brain and go back in
Speaker 1: time and think about if I've ever introduced anyone to
Speaker 1: my dog or seen them interact with dogs and it
Speaker 1: was like turned off by it, or like put off
Speaker 1: by their interactions, or like they're there, they're unwillingness to
Speaker 1: be receptive of a dog, And I can't recall any
Speaker 1: specific event, and I'm just hoping that it's because the
Speaker 1: energy that I put out there is like dog lover
Speaker 1: or et FO. You know, like if you don't love
Speaker 1: dogs and don't even worry about trying to uh to
Speaker 1: wine and dine in your anything like g t FO,
Speaker 1: that's a good ideas, such a good way to start off,
Speaker 1: rather than having to like address it later on, like
Speaker 1: you were saying, like you might be in a relationship
Speaker 1: for three to six months before you realize this, and
Speaker 1: if it's such an important facet of your life, obviously
Speaker 1: you your dogs or your children. Uh, and then that
Speaker 1: would be such a crummy way to have to end
Speaker 1: things for for whatever reason, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I think it's such an awesome idea. The other pieces,
Speaker 1: when you go out on the date, if you have
Speaker 1: your dog with you, you've just got this different energy,
Speaker 1: this different vibe, right. You know, first of all, you
Speaker 1: know right away if it's the wrong guy, if he's
Speaker 1: not picking up dog poop, or you know, like whatever,
Speaker 1: your your rules are there, but you just have this feeling,
Speaker 1: this more comfortable feeling, um, and you can bring that
Speaker 1: into meeting other relationships with you. I was actually gonna
Speaker 1: ask um. Rachel had Copper on her season, right, and
Speaker 1: so I wonder if that played into just how amazing
Speaker 1: and approachable she was. I never got to meet Copper.
Speaker 1: Apportunately Peter got to meet in their first group on
Speaker 1: the first one one actually the first week, but there
Speaker 1: wasn't a time when we first left the mansion. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Rachel didn't got to bring her dog, Copper with her,
Speaker 1: and we were in the airport, and so I got
Speaker 1: her like this plush dog necked pillow thing, and I
Speaker 1: gave it to her on my one on one date
Speaker 1: with her in Hilton Head, which was our first week
Speaker 1: away from the mansion. I was like, hey, I know
Speaker 1: you missed your dog. I'm sure it's not easy for you.
Speaker 1: So here's a dog plush pillo neck pillow to hopefully
Speaker 1: comfort you during these trying times. The fact that he
Speaker 1: was a dog person obviously was a big selling point
Speaker 1: as well. And I agree with what you're saying. If
Speaker 1: it's a you know you, you you obviously want to
Speaker 1: be around dog people as much as possible if you
Speaker 1: are one yourself. I've seen your happy videos to him
Speaker 1: jumping across the seats in the van. Oh, he's the man.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with happy. It's funny. Actually, Caitlan was just
Speaker 1: out of the house for a while. Uh. And we
Speaker 1: have this shrine to p Happy that we just put
Speaker 1: up where it's just like a bunch of pictures, just
Speaker 1: the one wall dedicated to a bunch of pictures of happy.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. I love it. And Jared, actually, the most
Speaker 1: recent video I saw y'all was with Ethel. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: because we're at my in law's house. So Ethel is
Speaker 1: my my in law's dog, and then Lois is our
Speaker 1: dog and Lois is here too. So the problem is
Speaker 1: Lois has been here for so long that Lois is
Speaker 1: going to go back to l A and not be
Speaker 1: with Ethel. And they've been bonding for like three and
Speaker 1: a half months. So I feel bad because they're gonna
Speaker 1: be separated and now they're like sisters. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: They'll she'll come back to Grandma's house and play with
Speaker 1: with her cousin or her sister. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that relationship would be, but I think it's a great app.
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome. I think about all the times
Speaker 1: because I've had dogs all my life, uh and anytime
Speaker 1: somebody didn't like dogs, it was an immediate turn off.
Speaker 1: So this is a pretty awesome app and a great idea,
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited for you. Uh So everybody go
Speaker 1: check out dig of course, the dog person dating app. Um.
Speaker 1: I felt like I had one more question for you,
Speaker 1: and now I can't. I got a question, how can
Speaker 1: I become an investor in the app? Because I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna take off? We can shout after no problem.
Speaker 1: I can't think of my question. I'm so mad at myself.
Speaker 1: That wasn't your question to Jared, come on in. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I'll invest. I'm always down for investing
Speaker 1: in anything, either taking my piece, my pilot, Well, co
Speaker 1: will co invest. It will be the help I suck
Speaker 1: at dating investment. There we go. I don't mind that. Um.
Speaker 1: And then also, everybody go check out. You have an
Speaker 1: Instagram right for dog dig dates dig dates, and all
Speaker 1: the dogs we feature on our Instagram are available for
Speaker 1: adoption from Louisiana area shelters. Oh that's awesome. So everybody
Speaker 1: go check out. Yeah at dig dates that's where you
Speaker 1: can see the dog dates. Oh that's all I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. I think this is a great idea for
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen dating as well, because if you take if
Speaker 1: you meet somebody with a dog on an app, and
Speaker 1: then you go to a public dog park, uh, you
Speaker 1: know you can wear masks you're outside. Uh, it's good
Speaker 1: for social distancing. I think this is a great idea
Speaker 1: for not only the long term but for our current
Speaker 1: situation where everybody's trying to figure out how do ID
Speaker 1: eight in the world of coronavirus. So I think you've
Speaker 1: got a great product on your head. Absolutely stay two
Speaker 1: leash lengths apart. So you know you've got your six
Speaker 1: feet right. And then absolutely, people are turning to their
Speaker 1: dogs during COVID like crazy. We've we're hearing across the
Speaker 1: country for the first time shelters completely empty as people
Speaker 1: are fostering, turning to animals for comfort too. So absolutely,
Speaker 1: this is an amazing time to reach out and talk
Speaker 1: to other dog lovers. I love it. I think it's fantastic. Please,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Thank you for joining us,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that investment opportunity. Yeah, absolutely, that's good.
Speaker 1: All right, see you later. Thanks guys. All right, welcome back.
Speaker 1: That was Lee from dig and it sounds like a
Speaker 1: very very interesting thing we're checking out. If you're single,
Speaker 1: you love dogs, you got a dog, you'll be sure
Speaker 1: to check them out. We are gonna get some emails.
Speaker 1: But Easton had an interesting inquiry that you wanted to
Speaker 1: lay upon us what you got for us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted your take on this, you guys. Carson Daily
Speaker 1: and his wife's Siri have said that they may never
Speaker 1: sleep together again. Uh, and they have done a thing
Speaker 1: that they call sleep divorcing because I guess he suffers
Speaker 1: from sleep apnea. Um, she suffers from insomnia. That is
Speaker 1: a that's a horrible combination. Uh. No one's getting any
Speaker 1: sleep in that house. So they've made a decision that
Speaker 1: they're going to sleep in separate bedrooms. Uh, probably for
Speaker 1: the rest of their marriage. And UM, I wanted your
Speaker 1: take on this because my wife and I have been
Speaker 1: flirting with doing this ourselves and it's been very successful actually,
Speaker 1: uh to to our our overall happiness. UM. Do you
Speaker 1: think this is something that could work in your relationship
Speaker 1: or do do you need it? Do you guys have
Speaker 1: problems with that? So interesting, Jared, what do you think?
Speaker 1: We don't have problems with it, but I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: People used to sleep separate, Like I remember watching Uh
Speaker 1: I Love Lucy and Lucy and Ricky slept in separate beds.
Speaker 1: They did, so I don't know, I don't see anything
Speaker 1: wrong with it. Also, when did uh this sleeping in
Speaker 1: the same bed every night for the rest of your
Speaker 1: lives become like a thing? Who says you have to
Speaker 1: do that? That's right? Who says who makes the rules? Well,
Speaker 1: it's not even like being rebellious, but like, I'm curious
Speaker 1: of of how that all? Uh, Like what the genesis
Speaker 1: of sleeping in the same bed was because when I
Speaker 1: think about it, sorry dude, but just when I think
Speaker 1: about it, like, there's nothing wrong with sleeping in separate beds.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I love Ashley any less. Plus,
Speaker 1: in the rare occasions where I do sleep in a
Speaker 1: separate bed, I've slept a couple of nights because the
Speaker 1: bed here is very you know there just wasn't that big,
Speaker 1: so we slept in separate beds. I got a great
Speaker 1: night's rest. Sleep is very important for your health, for
Speaker 1: your immune system. And I was like hunt, Plus, like,
Speaker 1: if you're for a relationship, I don't know. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: you know, uh, distance makes the heart grow fonder. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's nice to see Ashley in bed, you know, not
Speaker 1: every night, but like a nice like, uh surprise. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, as the voice of reason apparently on this podcast,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty weird. Wow, I think that I
Speaker 1: look at the caveman over here, we have your significant other, uh,
Speaker 1: extenuating circumstances aside like sleep aft now, which I can
Speaker 1: kind of understand. You're kind of expected to be in
Speaker 1: the same room, in same bed as your partner. And
Speaker 1: I say that as someone who is not a fan
Speaker 1: of conformity, not a fan of antiquated traditions. As Jared said,
Speaker 1: who decided, what is the genesis of sleeping in the
Speaker 1: same bed as your partner for the rest of your life?
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just think that it's just
Speaker 1: that's like your time to like lay together. And I
Speaker 1: guess my experience with this. Okay, So Kalin has this
Speaker 1: massive king bed, uh, and I could literally be on
Speaker 1: my side of the bed, rollover, reach my arm across
Speaker 1: and still not touch her. And there are times like
Speaker 1: we'll go to sleep's cuddling each other, will wake up
Speaker 1: on opposite ends of the bed um, which I guess
Speaker 1: is kind of the same thing. But there are also
Speaker 1: times where it's like I'll be out on the couch
Speaker 1: until like twelve thirty in the morning, you know, watching
Speaker 1: movie or playing a video game or something like that,
Speaker 1: and she'll be like, hey, like come to bed, like
Speaker 1: I need you to come to bed with me, or
Speaker 1: I'll like not be feeling well and so I'll go
Speaker 1: sleep out on the couch or something that and she
Speaker 1: doesn't really appreciate that very much. It's just like for
Speaker 1: for us, and especially for her, it's like a comforting
Speaker 1: thing where it's like she needs her she wants her
Speaker 1: partner to be next to her in the bed. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I guess And and listen, we've
Speaker 1: only been together for a year, Eastern Jared. You guys
Speaker 1: have been in your relationships much longer than we have been. Potentially,
Speaker 1: I guess I could see that fading at some point.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. I'm not discounting that all together,
Speaker 1: but it just seems like kind of like one of
Speaker 1: the cornerstones of a relationship. To me, the comfort would
Speaker 1: be the worst part for me as well, the comfort
Speaker 1: of not having her next to me. That is very nice,
Speaker 1: and that is a very underrated facet of sleeping in
Speaker 1: the same bed with someone. I totally agree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like, uh, I don't know. I always think because
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have sleep I'm not diagnosed
Speaker 1: to sleep ap nea, but I do. You know, some
Speaker 1: say I snore a little bit, and uh I have
Speaker 1: to get up early early for work. My you know,
Speaker 1: I get up at three thirty in the morning. Uh so,
Speaker 1: and Allison likes to stay up late and so that
Speaker 1: that sucks. Um so, you know, for us, it works,
Speaker 1: but if those circumstances weren't there, I think we would
Speaker 1: probably be sleep in the same bed, you know, I
Speaker 1: like to think so Anyway, there was a moment the
Speaker 1: other night where Caylin and I were sleeping and it
Speaker 1: was like three in the morning. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I woke up like shocks because I had just gotten
Speaker 1: struck in the back and apparently Kaylin, in the middle
Speaker 1: of her of her slumber, rolled over and just punched,
Speaker 1: not punched me open fists, snabbed my back as hard
Speaker 1: as she possibly stiff arms. Yeah, I rolled over and
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? And she didn't
Speaker 1: respond because she was like she just did in her
Speaker 1: sleep by mistake. And that was the moment where I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I should just like go sleep in
Speaker 1: the other room for the rest. All right, Well, so
Speaker 1: should we get to some emails before we uh send off?
Speaker 1: Let's do it? Um? May may I read these? I
Speaker 1: like reading things absolutely all right. This is from anonymous.
Speaker 1: They're a very nile, prolific listener of this podcast. Um.
Speaker 1: My second dating issue is the fact that I'm twenty
Speaker 1: four and I'm still a virgin. I'm a girl, by
Speaker 1: the way. It's something I'm super self conscious about and
Speaker 1: I worry that it will be a turn off for
Speaker 1: any guy I try to date. Is that a turn
Speaker 1: off for guys in their mid twenties? Also advice on
Speaker 1: how early I should bring this up when I'm talking
Speaker 1: to someone, How on earth do I approach the subject.
Speaker 1: It's not because I'm saving myself for marriage or anything.
Speaker 1: I just haven't dated a lot since I've focused on
Speaker 1: school in my career. Yeah, I think that it's definitely
Speaker 1: not an issue, but it's definitely something that you should
Speaker 1: bring up with whomever you're interested in dating early, sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later. The sooner you bring it up, the
Speaker 1: more they'll be able to process it, the better decision you,
Speaker 1: guys will be able to make for yourselves. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's like that big of a deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: So to Anonymous, my wife Ashley was very similar. She
Speaker 1: was a virgin until her late twenties, and she was
Speaker 1: not saving herself a marriage either, just kind of never happened. Um,
Speaker 1: So you should never be ashamed of this or feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in any way. It's very normal. Um and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that much of an issue at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really a turn off. And if
Speaker 1: it is a major turn off for a guy, then
Speaker 1: that's probably not the guy for you anyway. Um and uh,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I'm I'm with Dean. I
Speaker 1: don't think it has to be, you know, brought up
Speaker 1: on the first date. I think it should be mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, certainly before things start getting um, you know, intimate.
Speaker 1: Um so. But again, it just kind of brooches the
Speaker 1: situation when you feel comfortable, when you feel like the
Speaker 1: timing is right. But I would, I would get out
Speaker 1: of your own head about it, because I certainly don't
Speaker 1: think it's a huge deal. This is for This is
Speaker 1: directly towards Dean. Also from anonymous, a different anonymous. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming I am much like Dean. My dad died when
Speaker 1: I was fifteen, and I was very young. It was
Speaker 1: sudden and unexpected. I didn't have the support I needed
Speaker 1: because I don't have very close family ties. My parents
Speaker 1: were in the military, so every three years we picked
Speaker 1: up and changed locations. Growing up like this and it's
Speaker 1: experiencing this trauma left me with no support system, and
Speaker 1: I never experienced what it was like to be vulnerable
Speaker 1: in relationships on twenty seven now, and it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to open up myself to any more disappointment. How
Speaker 1: did Dean get to a place where he was able
Speaker 1: to open up and be vulnerable? How did you learn
Speaker 1: to trust when most people can't relate? Mmmm, that's a
Speaker 1: tough question, anonymous. Um, let's see. So her question is
Speaker 1: how did I get to a place where I was
Speaker 1: able to open up and be vulnerable in relationships? And
Speaker 1: how did I learn how to trust when most people
Speaker 1: can't relate? So, my biggest issue with dealing with loss
Speaker 1: at a young age was that last sentence of uh,
Speaker 1: learning how to trust people when they can't relate? Because
Speaker 1: a lot of the people in my close circle, while
Speaker 1: they had good intentions, I never thought that I could
Speaker 1: fully lean on them because they didn't they hadn't walked
Speaker 1: a mile in my shoes, for lack of a better phrase, like,
Speaker 1: they didn't really know what I've been through. And so
Speaker 1: the shoulder that they're giving me to cry on or
Speaker 1: lean on what didn't really provide much much more than
Speaker 1: just that just as a shoulder, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so I kind of stay quiet about it for
Speaker 1: a long time. And I actually don't think I ever
Speaker 1: really broke out of my shell about it, uh until
Speaker 1: my mid to late twenties. And I just think that
Speaker 1: rather you're dealing with loss or heartbreak or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: as individuals, you just kind of don't really learn to
Speaker 1: begin to learn about yourself until you're mid to late twenties. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Like you know the fact that my mom died, or
Speaker 1: had she not died, I don't think that I would
Speaker 1: have really came into my own until my late twenties,
Speaker 1: as I have in my opinion. I mean, maybe it
Speaker 1: would have, obviously everything would have been different, but I
Speaker 1: think you just kind of need to give it time. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then her other question was how did I get
Speaker 1: to a place where I was able to open up
Speaker 1: some peoplelnerable and relationships, And that's like something obviously I'm
Speaker 1: still working on. Vulnerability is not one of my strong suits.
Speaker 1: I would stay within the past year or two, it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely improved substantially, but I still am in light
Speaker 1: years away from being at a place where I would
Speaker 1: say that I'm open and vulnerable about all things. I'm
Speaker 1: like honest and I'm communicative, but I think that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that I am vulnerable. It's funny, actually, when uh,
Speaker 1: we were filming Paradise this past year, I had laughed, obviously,
Speaker 1: and I came back and I was talking to one
Speaker 1: of the producers, one of my good friends who was
Speaker 1: one of the producers for the show, and he was
Speaker 1: we were talking, and he was like saying something along
Speaker 1: the lines of how I run away from everything, and
Speaker 1: I've always run away from everything, and I literally bought
Speaker 1: a van so I could also physically run away from
Speaker 1: people as well. And I was like, yeah, You're making
Speaker 1: a lot of good points, and and I'm really glad
Speaker 1: that I came back here to kind of confront those, uh,
Speaker 1: those shortcomings and those fears and at least be a
Speaker 1: little bit vulnerable. And I'm sure you know, if you
Speaker 1: brought killing in here now and we asked her the
Speaker 1: same question, she would say something similar to where the
Speaker 1: vulnerability is there and it's growing, but it's still like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that she would sometimes want more of that
Speaker 1: out me. So it just it comes with age, It
Speaker 1: comes with time, uh, the the fact that people might
Speaker 1: not understand where you're coming from because they can't relate.
Speaker 1: Is a tricky one because I've like dated people in
Speaker 1: the past that come from these well to do families
Speaker 1: and never really had a struggle for much in their lives,
Speaker 1: and I would never to be able to talk to them,
Speaker 1: uh with full honesty, because they just wouldn't really get it.
Speaker 1: And I think that there is a way to deal
Speaker 1: with that, a way that I was never really able
Speaker 1: to figure out. But it's nice to be able to
Speaker 1: like not like cope misery, but to speak with people
Speaker 1: that I've dealt with similar things to kind of empathize
Speaker 1: with you speak from their experiences, uh, and you're able
Speaker 1: to like learn from each other's missteps sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But there are people out there that want to help
Speaker 1: but are just not able to because they haven't really
Speaker 1: had to deal with much of firsity themselves. Uh. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of a long winded answer to that. I
Speaker 1: hope that helps, but it might not answer. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: time and age, that's what That's what I say, dicinctly.
Speaker 1: Thank you for opening up team. Yeah right now, let's
Speaker 1: see one more. This is from Sammy. I was just
Speaker 1: wondering when I should introduce my boyfriend to my family.
Speaker 1: I've been seeing my boyfriend for eight months and we're
Speaker 1: both in our mid twenties. I've been in quarantine with
Speaker 1: my family and we FaceTime in text all the time.
Speaker 1: Should I let my family meeting him over FaceTime or
Speaker 1: should I wait until this quarantine thing is over? Jared,
Speaker 1: what do you think the I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: know COVID aside, it would be the right time for
Speaker 1: him to meet the fam. You know, you guys have
Speaker 1: been boyfriend girlfriend for eight months. You're both in your
Speaker 1: mid twenties. You know, eight months is a pretty long
Speaker 1: time to date someone. I think that's pretty fair to
Speaker 1: meet the family at that point. Uh. Obviously, quarantine, self isolating,
Speaker 1: social distancing changes his game a little bit depending on
Speaker 1: how old your parents are. UM. So, I guess it's
Speaker 1: just up to everybody involved on how comfortable they are,
Speaker 1: uh with meeting someone face to face. Uh. If not sure,
Speaker 1: meet him or FaceTime? Why not? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess that's a good question. Should you wait until they
Speaker 1: meet him in person or should you meet him or FaceTime?
Speaker 1: Because it would FaceTime be awkward because you know how
Speaker 1: sometimes there's like a delay or there's bad connection and
Speaker 1: then it just becomes awkward. And it's not a bad
Speaker 1: first meeting, but it's just kind of meaningless a little
Speaker 1: bit because you can't really it's just not like as
Speaker 1: a emotional I don't know how to describe it. I
Speaker 1: think the pro to meeting someone's family via FaceTime for
Speaker 1: the first time is all she has to do is
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, this is the guy I've been talking to.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend's the guy I've been dating. Say hi, Hi, alright,
Speaker 1: see you later, like you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's more a matter of like, like uh, a pleasantry
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, this is who he is. He's
Speaker 1: a real person. These are my family. They're real people too,
Speaker 1: all right, You guys will meet each other one day,
Speaker 1: but for now, this will have to do. Like I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of the most the best way to
Speaker 1: do it. But eight months, like Jared said, is an
Speaker 1: ample amount of time to be introduced to someone's family.
Speaker 1: I still actually haven't met Kaylin's mother or her sister,
Speaker 1: but I've spent a good amount of time with her
Speaker 1: grandparents and her uncle out in Las Vegas. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of this is kind of proximity similar
Speaker 1: to their situation as well. But eight months, I'd say
Speaker 1: that's like, that's almost like the perfect amount of time
Speaker 1: to be introduced to someone's here, Yeah, because then you're
Speaker 1: you guys were in a serious relationship. Then if you've
Speaker 1: been dating exclusively for eight months, there was made not
Speaker 1: a mistake. But when I was younger and I was
Speaker 1: dating someone, I introduced her to my father after like
Speaker 1: a month or two, he was just like in town
Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, yeah, let's all just
Speaker 1: go and get dinner together. And then a month after
Speaker 1: that she said something on the lines up, will you
Speaker 1: introduced me to your father? Because I thought you were
Speaker 1: much more serious about this, And I was like, I
Speaker 1: introduced you to my father because I just you know,
Speaker 1: he was in town and together, and I figured to
Speaker 1: be a fun thing for us to go and do
Speaker 1: all together. So there's some implications of like once you
Speaker 1: introduced someone to the family, it's like, Okay, things are
Speaker 1: getting a little bit more serious or they're progressing past
Speaker 1: just a casual flinging into like a serious boyfriend or girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I think, no, I've done the same thing before, and
Speaker 1: like I I'm I was with you, Deane, where I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking like, I don't think meeting the family, or
Speaker 1: at least at that point, was as big of a
Speaker 1: deal as people made it out to be. But I
Speaker 1: should have put more weight on the situation than I did.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's you know, that's especially like you
Speaker 1: look at something like Bachelor, there's a lot of weight
Speaker 1: to that moment where you know, the final four you
Speaker 1: get to meet the families, and then you know, you
Speaker 1: bring the families into it. But I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I would say yeah with Dean, if it is FaceTime,
Speaker 1: make it a quick hello, Hi. Don't make it a
Speaker 1: big thing of a FaceTime because I just don't feel
Speaker 1: like you'll really I don't. I mean, it won't go badly,
Speaker 1: but it probably just won't go as well as are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you from? Where do you? Where you were?
Speaker 1: I know I just had a question to answer, all right.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for this episode of
Speaker 1: help I Suck at Dating? Big thank you to Lee
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Speaker 1: I think she said in the New Orleans area. Um,
Speaker 1: big thank you to Easton for joining us after like
Speaker 1: taking a hiatus because he's too busy with scrubbing in.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's cool whatever where plan Bible? Ah,
Speaker 1: thank you too, Dean for being an amazing human being
Speaker 1: for raising over thousand dollars. You said, yeah, maybe for charity. Incredible. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it took balls to shave your hair. Uh, so
Speaker 1: good job because I know a lot of people would
Speaker 1: have done it. A lot of people would have said,
Speaker 1: oh you you paid, good job, I'll do something else.
Speaker 1: And you shave your head and that's pretty awesome. Thanks man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Don't forget to thank Anonymous, Anonymous and
Speaker 1: Seamy as well for emailing us. Uh great questions today.
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Speaker 1: single out there and you've had any experiences during this
Speaker 1: current quarantine of dating, whether that be virtual or you
Speaker 1: guys have met up during a social distance dating, we'd
Speaker 1: love to hear because I'm very curious because obviously Dean
Speaker 1: and myself are in Easton and Mark are all uh
Speaker 1: you know, in relationships or married. Uh So, please we'd
Speaker 1: love to hear your single stories right now because I
Speaker 1: am very curious about what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1: Because I was reading an article in the New York
Speaker 1: Post about the New York Health Department I think last
Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago, came out with like, uh
Speaker 1: certain uh advice for people who are single right there
Speaker 1: about like having kinkier sex, like trying different positions and
Speaker 1: wearing masks because hopefully that will help stop the spread
Speaker 1: of COVID. Uh So, it's pretty interesting. So please email
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Speaker 1: as long as you give us five stars. I don't
Speaker 1: really give a shit. Uh And that's it. I agree.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, thanks to everyone. Uh we'll see you next week,
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