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Speaker 1: All right, this is Darwin James and you listen to

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Speaker 1: the Chargers Podcast Network. What's up, guys, Welcome to a

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Speaker 1: very special uniform edition of Chargers Weekly, presented by Nike.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry here with you. It's been an awesome day

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Speaker 1: for Chargers fans and we have a great pot ahead.

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Speaker 1: Todd Radum, the foremost authority on pro sports uniforms and logos,

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Speaker 1: will join us to give his input on the new

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Speaker 1: Chargers uniforms. Steve Ziff, chief marketing officer of the team.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna take you behind the scenes on the process

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Speaker 1: that came to be with the new Chargers unis Dave

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Speaker 1: damas Check of NFL Network. We know what a big

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Speaker 1: uniform historian Dave is. He's gonna give his thoughts. But

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Speaker 1: we start with the President of Business Operations, mister ag Spanos. Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's been an electric day here

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Speaker 1: a Charger Land here with the president of Business Operations,

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Speaker 1: ag Spanos. What can you compare this too? The fans

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Speaker 1: have been so excited about this for a month. They

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Speaker 1: finally got to see the uniform today and what can

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Speaker 1: you say Rave reviews? Honestly, it's been such a long

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Speaker 1: time coming. I mean I could sense the fans anticipation,

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Speaker 1: was getting nervous for today. I just was ready to

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Speaker 1: get it out there because it had been such a

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Speaker 1: long process. I mean, I don't think most people realize

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Speaker 1: we began this process over two and a half years ago,

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Speaker 1: early in the twenty seventeen season. So this has been

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Speaker 1: a long build and a long way to get here

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Speaker 1: to this day. And it's so great to see just

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Speaker 1: the outpouring of excitement and the social media reaction and

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Speaker 1: the team trending on Twitter. I mean, it's everything you

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Speaker 1: could have hoped for. I couldn't wait to finally put

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Speaker 1: this on today. I got to walk my dog outside

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Speaker 1: with my number twenty powder blue on AG. Take us

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Speaker 1: back to when the organization decide to enhance I guess,

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Speaker 1: the best uniform and boards. What was that process, Like

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Speaker 1: you said, dating back to twenty seventeen. Yeah, like I said,

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Speaker 1: most people don't realize this, but there's quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of mandatory lead time that the league requires. So for

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Speaker 1: what we did, which was changed, the logo changed, the

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Speaker 1: time which is over two and a half years, and

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Speaker 1: lot of involved. There's the NFL design team, key, there's

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Speaker 1: our Chargers internal team. So it's a lengthy process. It worked.

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Speaker 1: The timing couldn't work out better as we're going into

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Speaker 1: How much input did you take from the fans. I

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Speaker 1: know you mentioned the process being about two and a

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Speaker 1: half years. I know Nike has their thoughts internal. You

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Speaker 1: guys probably have your thoughts as a family, but the fans,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they spoke to you as well. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: We put a huge premium on what our fans are

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Speaker 1: to what we're doing, whether it be training, camp, experience,

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Speaker 1: There's vocal advic hits for many different things like members

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Speaker 1: really what was most important to us restaurants between what's

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Speaker 1: or who is that? And what uniform is that? You know,

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Speaker 1: Ultimately we struck this great balance of timeless and classic

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Speaker 1: just makes everything look so great. What was your reaction

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Speaker 1: Couldn't think of a better guest to have on during

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Speaker 1: a day like this, The Chargers new uniform, Todd. What

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. How are you, Chris? Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: What was your first action when you saw the Chargers

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Speaker 1: Steve Ziff it's Steve. The anticipation for these uniforms has

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Speaker 1: noticed that when we had, you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: lead models get down in a three point stands. You

431
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Speaker 1: see all that electricity coming at your helmet and shoulders,

432
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: and that's what our opponents would see. I think we

433
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Speaker 1: realized how important that change was. And the other is

434
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Speaker 1: the font just being a more modern football centric font,

435
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: sleeker and italicized the motion, and I think those two

436
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: things really make this uniform special. Yeah, the font is clean,

437
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the electricity moving forward. How about the

438
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: numbers on the helmet though, that's a key differentiator from

439
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Speaker 1: any other uniform in the NFL, A nod to the

440
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: AFL as well. Thirteen seasons the Chargers had the number

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Speaker 1: on the helmet. Yeah, and it was that that was

442
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: an interesting process all by itself, and getting the you know,

443
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Speaker 1: getting that concept approved again, you know, after many years,

444
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: because you know, no one has done it since the

445
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Chargers have done it, and quite frankly, it are some

446
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: technicalities to getting that done that we're you know, we

447
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: had to work through. But overall, I think being able

448
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: to go back in time and pull an aspect like

449
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: that out and bring it back and modernize it and

450
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: make it a part of who you are as you

451
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: before it is special. And we were glad that it

452
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Speaker 1: was us that did that before somebody else realized that

453
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: that was an aspect that they could evolve their uniforms

454
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: to include our I think our helmet was already great,

455
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: the way the bolt sat on it, and there was

456
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: this kind of empty space that something needed to be

457
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: it and that was a perfect example how once upon

458
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Speaker 1: a time that was done and how again it was

459
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: sitting there as an opportunity for us to go back

460
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Speaker 1: to and bring forward into the future. Yeah, so would

461
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Speaker 1: tell Jerry Tillery that I have his helmet here if

462
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Speaker 1: if he needed an I'm looking for you. I'm sure

463
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Speaker 1: he will, Steve. What was the process like showing the players.

464
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Speaker 1: That's been the most fun for me over the last

465
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Speaker 1: month to see Darwood's reaction and Badges reaction. Mike Williams

466
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Speaker 1: list goes on and on. What was it like, because

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Speaker 1: I know you were in some of those goals. Yeah,

468
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: that was fun. I mean they totally were excited about it.

469
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: Some were really really excited it wouldn't leave us alone,

470
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: kept trying to schedule their calls with us. But I

471
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: think they were just you know, they you forget, like

472
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Speaker 1: to a player or the DNA of what they wear

473
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: is a special on the field as any part of it.

474
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: We all played sports at different levels and I think

475
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: seeing yourself in the uniform as a prideful moment. So

476
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: for them, we forget what it represents to them when

477
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: they walk out of that tunnels representing that brand, so

478
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: they were excited, but watching them react it was hysterical.

479
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean some of them were just so funny. And

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00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: the b role that we have if we ever release

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Speaker 1: all the raw footage, I hope that's coming. I'll just

482
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: say that Joey Boss is I mean like he should

483
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: be on do stand up comedy show. These guys hysterical,

484
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: even if he's just being he's funny. So it was awesome. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: it was pretty fun. Dedmond King, I think, had the

486
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Speaker 1: best reaction in my opinion, because he said, we have

487
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Speaker 1: to go out and we have to be worthy aware

488
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Speaker 1: in these now because you know it's old portant. The

489
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: fans obviously are going to love these, but the players

490
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you have to love what you're wearing too. So for

491
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: for Dez to say, listen, the standard now is up here.

492
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: We gotta go break a LOBARTI to la. That's important, right,

493
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: Like that's you set the bar high with every little

494
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: part of it. But that's the that's the beauty of

495
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: a sport like football, is that every piece of the puzzle,

496
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: every person in this organization's got a role to play

497
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: and winning a championship and even this if this little

498
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: piece helps these guys have one more, one more moment

499
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: of pride as we work through the process, as they

500
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: play a football game, they feel that much better that

501
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: we did our jobs to help them and help this

502
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Speaker 1: company win a championship. So I think that's a great

503
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: way for Desman to look at it. If he if

504
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: this elevates his game even one notch, then we've done

505
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Speaker 1: our part to help them win their title. Steve, we

506
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: just talked about it offline for a minute, just the

507
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: importance of this week right charges moving into a new stadium,

508
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: they got new unis, they didn't get a franchise type

509
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: player at number six. Overall, what has this week been

510
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Speaker 1: like for you at the beginning and what it's going

511
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: to be like win it in? I got to tell

512
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: you something, you know, I've worked on some really great teams,

513
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: both in sports and out of sports, just teams inside

514
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: and of our organization and teams in general. Right and

515
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: our team right now is incredible operating. It's just the

516
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: absolute highest capacity, highest caliber on everything that we've been

517
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: putting work into. And having to do it in isolation

518
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: is just a momentous task. But it's been wonderful working

519
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: with people that care this much about all the things

520
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: that we're doing. You look at the organization's trajectory and

521
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: the things that we're working on, you know, having to

522
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: launch a new brand, having to launch a uniform and

523
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: really the importance to that, and then the same week

524
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Speaker 1: having to create a virtual draft and having the draft.

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00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: You know, having the draft a really important part of

526
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: your new franchise, your franchise moving forward. This is a

527
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: big week for this company to really showcase and you

528
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: know the difference that we want to make both in

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and with our to our fans, and so

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00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I think we're going to get it right all the

531
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Speaker 1: way across the board. I think if hopefully the way

532
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: people look at the players that we choose, the uniforms

533
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: that we wear, all the things that we're doing to

534
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: support people and support Los Angeles as great things and

535
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: part of the long process, because you know, we want

536
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: to be here forever and want to win here forever.

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: So it starts this week as a part of that,

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00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: then great. But I think we've started already in the

539
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: past and we're just building upon it this week. And

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00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: see it's a great point, just a piggyback on that.

541
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: The last month like you said, we've been working in isolation,

542
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: but it feels like everybody's together and that includes the fans.

543
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: This is a family right from these town halls to

544
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: these virtual luncheons to the Bolts Draft Room, which is Thursday.

545
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I want you to speak on that just a little bit,

546
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: because it's an opportunity for everyone to get involved and

547
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: win some awesome prizes. It is, yeah, and you're right,

548
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean it is a family, and I think it

549
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: starts at the very top. This organization is a family

550
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: run company and it feels like that when you work here,

551
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and again, having worked other places, I can tell you

552
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: that it's a very big difference inside the walls of

553
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: this company, which is probably allowing the great work to

554
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: be done. And yeah, the Bolts Draft Room is an

555
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: example all of that. So this weekend or this on sorry,

556
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: this Thursday evening three thirty Pacific goes live with you

557
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: and Hayley Allwood as well as Petros and Money Live

558
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: on five seventy am is a really unique opportunity for

559
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: us to create a virtual experience for our fans to

560
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: participate in a live draft room that's going to have

561
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: both incredible special guest players an alumni as well as

562
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: great great analysis live on the air and online by

563
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: Petros and Money. So it's going to be a really

564
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: fun opportunity. And part of this was getting people to

565
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: be able to register for these incredible giveaways, and so

566
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: we wanted to just layer in one last additive and

567
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: make this thing even extra special. So we're giving away

568
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: all kinds of prizes throughout the entire show, and the

569
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: grand prize will be a chance to meet our number

570
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: one pick virtually and get a jersey of that player.

571
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty exciting opportunity. That's a priceless That's

572
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: a priceless deal. Steve. Yeah, I'd say so, Thanks Steve

573
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: if I appreciate all your hard work. And it's been

574
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: a it's been a one month even though we haven't

575
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: been able to see each other, there's been some great

576
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Speaker 1: things that are ahead and we can't thank you enough

577
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: for your time here all Charges Weekly. Thanks Chris, I

578
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You're doing a great job. Let's keep it up. Well.

579
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't end the day without getting Dave Damaschik on

580
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: a uniform podcast on a day where a lot of

581
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Chargers fans woke up pretty excited to see these powder

582
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: blues get unveiled this morning on a good morning football Dave.

583
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: I know you've been calling for some of these changes

584
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Speaker 1: in your requests came true. Well, thank you, Chris. I

585
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And yeah, you know, listen, I feel heard

586
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: and that I feel hutched right in the heart by

587
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: and Fouts, John Jefferson, Air Correlle and Ladanian, Tomlinson, Bambi

588
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: all Worth, all the rest of them. It's all come together.

589
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I love when pro football teams payo my to their history,

590
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers have certainly done that while

591
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: also making it look very twenty first century. Well done

592
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: to all who collaborated on this. And unless you tell

593
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: me otherwise, Chris, I'm just gonna have to assume that

594
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: a couple of the key ingredients came straight from the

595
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: mind and the eye of Damnashick. Specifically, I have spoken

596
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: with people in the Chargers organization and implored the players

597
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and otherwise. You got to get the numbers back on

598
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: the side of the hats. They're the numbers too. You

599
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: don't need a traditional pant stripe, you replace it with

600
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: the lightning bolt. I didn't like over the last few

601
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: years that the lightning bolt was there, but then it

602
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: was outlined by regular stripe. You don't need the second stripe,

603
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you already got the one. It's called a lightning bolt.

604
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Done and done on both counts. Beautiful work chargers. It

605
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: was simplified it and you said it. I mean you

606
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: have connections to the organization, whether it's Matt mney Smith

607
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: or myself. For several other people, you know you probably

608
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: were heard to some degree, and I know our can

609
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I also say I've met I've met Daniel Jeremiah on

610
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: several occasions. I'm hoping on the next one he will

611
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: finally allow me to make eye contact with him. As

612
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it stands currently he makes me lower my eyes and deference.

613
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: But for the record, I have met him on a

614
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: couple of occasions. He knows of you. I don't know

615
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: that he knows my name, but the boy, that'd be

616
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: a thrill, that'd be a career highlight if if he

617
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: had ever actually heard of me. But hey, this is

618
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: my favorite part though. The numbers on the helmet is

619
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: because it's the ultimate differentiator from any other team in

620
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: pro sports. To bring those back, It's like you said,

621
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: it's an Omas to the past, but in a in

622
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: a fun way, it does move it forward a little

623
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: bit as well. Yeah, it really does look great. I

624
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: mean I think the two what my guest is are

625
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: going to be the two most off scene versions of

626
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: these new gat ups. One the powder Blue at home

627
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: with the white pants and the and the white hats,

628
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: and then on the road that all white. Oh I see, yes, haven't.

629
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: It really is just descended from the football gods. It's

630
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: gonna look tremendous. And I even like the Royal blue

631
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that has been the color rush over the last few

632
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: years as grand. And then these sort of forward looking

633
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Navy ones. I mean, I think they all, to my

634
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: informed eye, exceptional work top to bott not that I

635
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: was surprised, because I asked a bunch of fans of

636
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: this morning, what was your favorite combo? A lot of

637
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: people were feeling the Navy, and most people are said,

638
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I can't decide, right, you know, because I think the

639
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: powder Blue is the quintessential charger Southern California Jersey, But

640
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: the all Navies were getting a lot of love, and

641
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the Royals to your point, the color rush, it brings

642
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: back the old fauty days and to have those royal stone,

643
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: the arsenal is a plus. Yeah, that's right, That's that's

644
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of how I see it. And I wouldn't be

645
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: surprised if in twenty twenty one, if the league loosens

646
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: a helmet policy and you can go with a different

647
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: color helmet and altogether different helmet. I would imagine that

648
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: that's what those dark blue ones are for, so that

649
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: they can also do the LT and Phil Rivers and

650
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Drew Breese and that window of time. But as it is, yes,

651
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: the Royal Blues honor Air Correll and that great Air

652
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: and then everything prior to that, and you know, LT

653
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: and Phil Rivers and all those guys were the Powder

654
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Blues themselves when they would go throwback. And when I

655
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: see those gold pants with the blue, with the powder

656
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: blue and the white helmets, the first thing I think

657
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: of is Lance all Worth and those old NFL films

658
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: highlights with the Sam Spence music underneath and John Facenda's

659
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: voiceover and all of that. So yeah, well done, top

660
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: the bottom, as I say, And Dave, the new generation,

661
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: who has no idea what you're talking about, loves them too,

662
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: which is cool. It's it's it's really neat to get

663
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. You get the folks who

664
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: are just NFL diehards like yourself and me, and then

665
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: you get this new generation that has grown up with

666
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers, maybe for just a few years, and they

667
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: have the same reaction to the uniform so many people

668
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: over the last few years, as people started to see

669
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers, throwbacks started to pine for those and then

670
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: even there was some noise coming out of the State

671
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: of Texas that the Houston Texans should do, should go

672
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: with their version of powder blue and go back to

673
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: the Earl Campbell Houston Oilers kind of colors. Well, now

674
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: too late, and if you do go back, then you're

675
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: second in line behind the Chargers. The first one there

676
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: is the winner Ergo Chargers twenty twenty victors. And we're

677
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: not even out of April yet. There's not a bigger

678
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: divider I think on Twitter than uniforms. For the most

679
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: part until today, I feel like everybody who's pretty unified

680
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. But what have you made of these

681
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: uniform unveilings Over the last five to six weeks, especially

682
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: during this pandemic, everybody's at home teams have had to

683
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: get creative with how they roll things out, and I

684
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: think it's seven teams have new uniform that many. Yeah,

685
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I think it's seven teams. Well, you know, I get

686
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: it that it's it's easy to just say for young people,

687
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: say you're a curmudgeon who just likes what you grew

688
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: up with, and to some extent that I'm not going

689
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: to push back too hard on that. Yeah. I think

690
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: we all kind of do that with our favorite teams,

691
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: our favorite players, and as it happens with our favorite uniforms.

692
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I do think as a side note, you say everybody

693
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: agrees on this, the weirdos, the real weirdos out there

694
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: are the ones who have no opinions on uniforms when

695
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: people are like why you know? On social media? Otherwise

696
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: there's always got to be if I comment on a uniform,

697
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: people always have to say, who cares about? Do you

698
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: like you're staring at them for three and a half

699
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: hours every week? What do you mean it has? It

700
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: has no impact on you whatsoever. Dreadful uniform is a distraction,

701
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, the nice uniform is at minimum, no

702
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: matter what happens from this point forward, is going to

703
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: be something to celebrate. I think it's clear among the

704
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty get ups. If we just start with that

705
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: relatively low bar, the Chargers win going away. I think

706
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: the Browns going back to some variation of their past

707
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: was a good move for them. It doesn't, but you know,

708
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: I really think, I hate to say it, I think

709
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots should have done something like that too. The

710
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: answer isn't always just go back to what you used

711
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: to have. I mean, the Chargers have done now a

712
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: nice job they have, I keep saying, paid homage to

713
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: their history. But it's not as though they just rolled

714
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: out throwback uniforms. These are plainly something that are new.

715
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: You can tell in the details that these are not

716
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: just a reiteration of something that's already existed. So the

717
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Chargers win this one going away. I think the Patriots

718
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: what would have been neat for them is they should

719
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: have just left the Tom Brady era undo itself. They

720
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: should have the day Tom Brady laugh. They should have said,

721
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: all right, we're back to pat patriot the white hats

722
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: with the red jerseys and that. I've always been a

723
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: fan of those two. Now those are so clean. Yeah, yeah,

724
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why they want to stick with the

725
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: flying elvis. Just let that era stand on its own.

726
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: That was something different. And now we're back to who

727
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: we know the Falcons. Let's not speak about what happened

728
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: there and then and then the Bucks, I guess did

729
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: a capable, if unspectacular job of at least getting rid

730
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: of the digital alarm clock number jerseys. You know you

731
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: love jersey matchups, right, Raiders, Chargers, Chiefs Chargers. The AFC

732
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: West is going to look good on Sunday afternoons when

733
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: you've put these powder blues in the rotation on a

734
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: consistent basis. Yeah, the Broncos now fall to a distant

735
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: fourth in the otherwise sublime af C West units. They

736
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: need to bring back their old units stave. They definitely do,

737
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: and we can debate which ones those are they the

738
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Alway ones with the Royal Blue, with the with the

739
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: Bronco with the air or I don't know what else

740
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: he's blown his nose out under the helmet, or they

741
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: are a couple of good AFL ones. But leaving them

742
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: out of it, what's cool is that the Raiders have

743
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: made very few alterations since the AFL days. The Chiefs

744
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: have made exactly zero alterations save changing the gray face

745
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: masks to white at some point, and I don't know,

746
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: the late seventies are thereabouts. That's it's cool that the

747
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs have made zero. But what I love is, like

748
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: you say, the matchups. I don't think there's been a

749
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: better one in pro football for the last decade or

750
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: two than when the Chiefs wear the red pants at

751
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the silver and black. But I really

752
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: do think that that all white Chargers, or for that matter,

753
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean either way, I mean all white when they

754
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: go into KC, or when when they play or I

755
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: guess Vegas. I have to get used to saying Vegas now.

756
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: But or when the Raiders come to La to play

757
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: in to play the Chargers in those powder blues. Oh,

758
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be glorious. Oh, it's just gonna be heavenly.

759
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: The yellow pants too. I love the yellow pants. I

760
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: like them on with with the powder blue combo. But

761
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: the all whites, there's something to be said about the

762
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: all whites. They are they are icy, they are very

763
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: very clean. Oh man, I mean, yeah, there really is.

764
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Any of the combos. I don't think you can go

765
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: wrong with any of them really, and and uh um, yeah,

766
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs come into town to play these powder blue

767
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: get up. If they wear the cold pants, it's gonna

768
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: be there. Really is gonna be something, because if you

769
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: have no, um no thought about pro football history, it

770
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: started watching UM in twenty eighteen or whever you tuned in.

771
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: They look good aesthetically, but if you care about pro

772
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: football history at all, if you're of a certain age,

773
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: I think it is going to lure a certain number

774
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: of eyeballs for people of a certain age, because I mean,

775
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: when they wear those gold pants against the Chiefs of

776
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: the Raiders, it's it's gonna invoke nineteen sixty seven. It

777
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: just absolutely is. That's what it looks like. It looks

778
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: like AFFL games top to bottom, and so as far

779
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: as that goes, you're right. The Broncos do need to

780
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: get with the program and they need to suit up

781
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: and make the whole division some sort of cool looking throwback.

782
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: That'd be fantastic. Two days the draft. What are you

783
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: most looking forward to with this virtual draft? Dave doesn't

784
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: have to be Chargers related. I want to ask you

785
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: about number six overall, but just in general, doing this

786
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: thing from from your basement or your living room. First

787
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: of all, let's start with the Chargers I think I

788
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: don't buy any of the job. It's all WHOI and

789
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Apple sauce in my book that the Chargers are not

790
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: interested in getting too, I have no shall insight on that.

791
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: I also know that the Chargers would like to get

792
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Witness the fact that that they went after

793
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I get his logic of why he wanted

794
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: to stand the East Coast. Good for him, stay close

795
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: to family, But that's an indication that the Chargers understand

796
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: that a high profile quarterback is going to kind of

797
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: kickstart things in the new stadium. Now, you lose out

798
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady. Even in getting him would have been

799
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: a short term fixed. Yes, it would have lured eyeballs,

800
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: and the team might have been very good. You consider,

801
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: obviously enough to tell you the offensive weaponry that any

802
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: QB has um with this twenty Chargers team, they're gonna

803
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be well stocked there. But that's a short

804
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: term answer to lure people. I think the real answer,

805
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: um is to land a guy who is going to

806
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: be the face of the franchise for the next decade

807
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: and a half, and that that's how you win long

808
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: term local fan base. In my opinion, is to land

809
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: that guy. And you know, I'll invoke the name Kobe Bryant,

810
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: and you saw the outpouring earlier this year and what

811
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: he meant, Yes to all of Los Angeles, Yes to

812
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: basketball fans, but you could really feel it with people

813
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: of a certain age, even professional athletes who grew up.

814
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, if they latched onto Kobe at age ten

815
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: or twelve and then rode through the next twenty years

816
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: with him, you can see the meaning that that has

817
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles an underrated sportstown and I think the

818
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Chargers would do well to land the football version of that.

819
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: And too a jest might be that, yes, the short

820
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: term injury concerns, that's fine. There have been a number

821
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: of guys coming out of school who wear that label,

822
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: and I'll give you two twenty first century examples of that.

823
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Frank Gore coming out of the U was injury prone.

824
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: Too bad, his niece just aren't going to allow him

825
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: to have a successful NFL career. And you'll remember area.

826
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: Early on in his NFL career, Fred Taylor was considered

827
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: injury prone and they went on to be two of

828
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: the most durable runners that we've seen this millennium. So

829
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: why not to, uh, And I think that you want

830
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: to win long term and really have the city of

831
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles embrace you. I think the way to do

832
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: that is to get this guy and those kids out

833
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: there right now at age eleven and twelve who are

834
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: swooning over these glorious California centric looking uniforms too. Really,

835
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: these uniforms look like they belong and out. They'll like

836
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 1: that what's going on here? A new stadium. And then

837
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: if you give them that quarterback who they literally grow

838
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: up with, you know you'll blink in Ten years later,

839
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: this is going to be a die hard Chargers town

840
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: as this new generation kicks in, led by the face

841
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: of the franchise. So bottom line, long answer to your

842
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: brief question answering, I think they want to and I

843
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: think that if things break for let's say the Miami

844
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins and they wind up with Tua, I think the

845
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: team is ready to roll. And I know that Justin

846
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Herbert is there and that's intriguing, But Isaiah Simmons would

847
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: complete that defense and would be a dominant defense if

848
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: you wound up with him, And if that's your fallback,

849
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: then then that's a pretty good consolation. Prize, but in

850
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: a bigger what am I looking forward to? I mean,

851
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I am an AFC North guy. I

852
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: was born and raised in the same dynamic that I

853
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: just described, hopefully for Chargers fans over the next decade.

854
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: I was born into Pittsburgh and so I'm a Steelers guy.

855
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: So forgive me but for saying this. If Joe Burrow,

856
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: this wouldn't be the equivalent of Eli, a Nola kid

857
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: and all that, not wanting to go out to the

858
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: Chargers a couple of generations ago. This would be a

859
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: kid from the Bengals backyard saying no, I don't want

860
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: to go to that team. I'm not going to sign

861
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: for it. That would just be the height of all

862
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Bengal stuff in history. If Joe Burrows like, I'm not

863
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: going there, I'm not going there. I want to see

864
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: how this all plays out there. Because you haven't exactly

865
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: heard Burrows say what a thrill you know, I'm an

866
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: Ohio kid to be able to put on the orange

867
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: and black and represent my region of the great state

868
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: of Ohio. He hasn't exactly said that yet. And if

869
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: he box at that and somehow forces a shake up,

870
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to tell Chargers fans that

871
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: that can happen because I just mentioned Eli there. It's

872
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: something that has happened a few times. John Elway, of course,

873
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: and Eli and I right now would not be completely

874
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: floored if that's the way it shakes out for the

875
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Bengals in a couple of days. It gets so unpredictable.

876
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen in forty eight

877
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: hours from now as we tape this. And just to

878
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: go back to your point about stores in La LA,

879
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: fans love their stars and if you're their guy, you

880
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: are their guy forever. And Kobe's the perfect example, Magic

881
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: Johnson another example. You go on and on throughout the

882
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: course of LA sports history. If you are their guy,

883
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: you are their guy through thick and thin. So whoever

884
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be, And I'll tell you about Isaiah Simmons.

885
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: If you have Joey Bosa, Isaiah Simmons, and Derwin James

886
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: on each level of your defense, and you have Casey

887
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: Hayward and Chris Harris Junior and Melvin Ingram, you bring

888
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: in Linval Joseph, I don't know. I think that that

889
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: is an intriguing possibility when you're in a division with

890
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and if you need to slow

891
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: down that explosive offense and you have all those guys

892
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: that I just mentioned, you go a long way towards

893
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: making that division gap a little bit closer. You talk

894
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: about you know, I mean people always throw out Frasier

895
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: versus Ali and styles make the fights. You're not probably

896
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty at minimum, going to shoot it out

897
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs. I think the Charge have

898
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: the best remedy. You guys have plenty of offense to

899
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: compete with most anyone in Pro football this side of

900
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But that rugged defense. Man, if even without

901
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons or another piece thrown in there, if you

902
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: get your QB on the other side of things, great,

903
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: But I mean that defense is built specifically I feel

904
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: like to take down the Chiefs. And I don't think

905
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: it's a coincidence that over the last couple of years,

906
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: given the rise of Patrick Mahomes, I don't think there's

907
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: any team that's been more competitive consistently with the Chiefs

908
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: than the Chargers have been. So I think they go

909
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: into this season and what figures to be a really

910
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: really rugged AFC West this year because I think the

911
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: Raiders are pretty close and if things break right for

912
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: them in this draft, I think they have a real shot.

913
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with the expanded playoffs, I think they

914
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: have a real shot to be playing in January or

915
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: February or March or whenever the playoffs of the twenty

916
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: twenty season actually get going. And I think the Broncos

917
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: have a it's to be really good themselves and for

918
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: what it's worth, I love rivalry. I love that sort

919
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: of individual chip on the shoulder, revenge game kind of stuff.

920
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I think Melvin Gordon adds to the storylines coming from

921
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Can you imagine, I mean, the the stuff

922
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: that's out there right now, no matter who it is,

923
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be a different quarterback after um all,

924
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, after a decade and a half with Rivers

925
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: under center there, so that's going to be fascinating. But

926
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: the storylines from this division are so juicy. I can't wait,

927
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: and I really would have to strongly consider. I always

928
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: like to think about it this way in the offseason

929
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: to to sesstivate. If you could only watch the games

930
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: of one division this season, which one would it be.

931
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: I think I would have to very strongly consider the

932
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: AFC West. And maybe that goes back to the fact

933
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: that that I really love uniforms to a grotesque degree,

934
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think there are many games I'd rather

935
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: be watching than once that involved these powder blues. Amen

936
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: to that, Dave Damnishek, what do you have going on

937
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: over the next couple of days before the draft and

938
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: where can we find you? Oh? Probably best to track

939
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: me down at Damashek. I've got this, that and the

940
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: other going on. I'm still doing the DDFP over at

941
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: the NFL, doing Good Sports with Adam Corolla, some other

942
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: good stuff on the way. But for now, listen, it's

943
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: not about me. It's about It's about the fact that

944
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers listened to me. So they did. They did.

945
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: I put it out on social media. Until I get

946
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: word from I don't know Wes Chandler, Louis Keelcher, I'm

947
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: going to assume that the wardrobe department at the Chargers

948
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: facility was listening keenly to my eight council on this.

949
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I told Mike Williams that at training camp last year,

950
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: you were about seven feet away from us. You were

951
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: kibbits in and I told both of the same thing.

952
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Neither one of them got what I was talking about.

953
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: I had to turn to you and I said, will

954
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: you talk to these youngsters about what I'm saying with

955
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: it with what would improve these Chargers uniforms. They know

956
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: now we are having this conversation. What a thrill. It's

957
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: the best. It's the best. And like I said, you

958
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: were one of the first people I thought of well,

959
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: and I knew that we were doing a uniform podcast.

960
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you being so gracious with your time. Buddy.

961
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Oh sure, listen and personal note I love. I mean,

962
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I think we met maybe five years or so ago,

963
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: and it's it's a great thrill for me to get

964
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: to see popping up on my TV, because that's all

965
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: we have is TVs these days, and so my TV's

966
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: on all the time, and it seems like I'm seeing

967
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: you on it about ten hours each day, these doing

968
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: this that or the other between your Chargers work and

969
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. It's great to see. Man. Nobody

970
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: deserves it more. You'd love to see a nice guy

971
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: doing well. Hey, you're the man. Man. I can't thank

972
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: you enough for everything. Over the years, and I look

973
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you soon. Man. Hopefully we get football

974
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: back sooner and later. Yeah, let's do it at the

975
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: new stadium, right, let's do it. Let's do it. We'll

976
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: get Money involved. That guy, that guy Money who's on

977
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: your podcast too, We'll get him involved, all right. Yeah,

978
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: just don't bother Jeremiah, you know, well, let me talk

979
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: to him for you and see what we can do.

980
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Can you pass them a note for me, Tim, I'm

981
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: a big fan, is I'll let him my best. I'll

982
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: do my best, all right, And that's gonna do it

983
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: for us. A big thanks to Dave Damashek, Todd Radum,

984
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: Steve Ziff and A. G. Spanners for joining me, and

985
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: of course thanks to you all for listening. With an

986
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: awesome day for Chargers fans. We're gonna keep it rolling

987
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: throughout the week a ton of draft coverage. Chair on

988
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers Podcast Network also want you to join us

989
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: three thirty on Thursday in the Bolts Draft Room a

990
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: chance to win a lot of prizes, meet some Chargers

991
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: greats and some current Chargers players as well. Have a

992
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: great evening and until next time, I'm Chris Harry