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Speaker 2: the Eagles come out victorious. Lot Lot went on with

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Speaker 2: the crazy ending of Sirianni going for it. I guess

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Speaker 2: you could live with going for it if you ran

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Speaker 2: manageable plays, but they ran a go route to aj Brown.

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Speaker 2: We will dive into that. I do think the headline

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Speaker 2: is the Packers. They've lost back to back games at Lambeau.

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Speaker 2: The negative momentum and buzz on Jordan Love Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 2: That combination feels like it's only gonna grow. We could

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Speaker 2: dive into both those guys' performances. I thought Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: came on definitely in the second half, but Lafleur, like this,

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Speaker 2: the negativity surrounding him is is only gonna grow. And

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Speaker 2: you know, AJ Brown quite the saga to have such

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Speaker 2: a talented player. The trade talks. Obviously, the trade deadline's over.

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Speaker 2: He went the majority of the game without getting targeted

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Speaker 2: till the end. But you can't even make this stuff up.

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Speaker 2: A couple other things for tonight, Tyler Shuck. I went back.

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Speaker 2: I got a text from actually someone in the Big

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Speaker 2: Easy and they're like, do you see my guy? Like no,

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Speaker 2: So I went back and I watched the highlights. He

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Speaker 2: actually played pretty good. So props to Tyler Shuck. Some

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Speaker 2: thoughts on Mike McDaniel. We got a lot of coaches

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Speaker 2: getting fired. I did a video earlier today, reaction video.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be on a podcast, so it was

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Speaker 2: only on YouTube for Brian day Ball when they announced

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Speaker 2: that he got fired, and then a couple other things,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get out of here tonight. But let's just

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Speaker 2: start with the ending of that game, because the first

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Speaker 2: half was rough. There's no way around it. That was

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Speaker 2: awful offensive football. We had turnovers and outs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the craziest stat. Aikman mentioned that the Philadelphia Eagles lead

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Speaker 2: the league in three and outs, and I get it,

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Speaker 2: like their offensive line isn't as good this year. Saguon

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Speaker 2: Barkley is not, you know, making the consistent explosive plays,

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Speaker 2: but they still got Sagua Barkley. They still got Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 2: they had Dallas Gottard, they got aj Brown, they got

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Speaker 2: Devonte Smith. Like that, that's a crazy stat. No wonder

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Speaker 2: people are on the offensive coordinator. I thought did a

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Speaker 2: valiant effort tonight. The defenses were really good. You know,

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Speaker 2: Fangio is one of the best. Uh, He's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of those young guys balling, and obviously Jeff Hafley

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Speaker 2: has been a stud most of this season. But I

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Speaker 2: just think if we fast forward right to the end

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Speaker 2: of the game, the more I thought. My initial reaction was, like,

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Speaker 2: what is Sirianni doing when he went forward on fourth down?

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Speaker 2: They have no timeouts. He's basically if he doesn't get it,

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Speaker 2: he gives him the ball at the thirty five yard

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Speaker 2: line with like twenty five to thirty seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: If they just pick up you know, a couple first downs,

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Speaker 2: they will have an opportunity to kick a fifty yard

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Speaker 2: he runs a go route down the left side, and

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Speaker 2: obviously it's broken up, and then Jordan loves giving the ball.

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Speaker 2: What I don't understand is the first play Lafleur, they

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Speaker 2: dial up a bomb to Christian Watson, who obviously is

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Speaker 2: one of the faster players in the league. But why

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Speaker 2: not just try to pick up fifteen yards like they

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Speaker 2: then give yourself an opportunity for another chunk play and

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Speaker 2: instead of having to attempt, you know, a sixty plus

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Speaker 2: which even if you had Justin Tucker in his prime

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Speaker 2: opportunity you would have tie that game was probably especially

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Speaker 2: McManus is coming back from a quad injury. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that looked like watching a twenty five handicap t off

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Speaker 2: And I think we can just jump right to my

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Speaker 2: main headline on this game is I thought Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 2: in the second half, that's pretty rough. And a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have been on this guy. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people have been questioning, like is this guy good enough?

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Speaker 2: And this season has been up and down. Obviously, anytime

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Speaker 2: you know, on you when you coach a team like

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Speaker 2: I've watched this color, lambeau Field, the uniforms my entire

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Speaker 2: life on Monday night football. And if you're gonna play

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Speaker 2: on Monday night football, typically you know consistently you're going

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Speaker 2: to be good, right, And I typed in to my

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Speaker 2: chat gbt app how many times or how many straight

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Speaker 2: years have the Packers played on Monday night football? It

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Speaker 2: was thirty two, so basically almost eighty percent of my life.

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Speaker 2: And for the last thirty two years the Packers have

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Speaker 2: played on Monday night football. It's an incredible stat longest

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Speaker 2: running in the NFL. But I thought Lafleur in the

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Speaker 2: second half, when Love was actually playing better, they had

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Speaker 2: multiple illegal formations, one of them cost them a big

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Speaker 2: first down, And that to me is coaching, because the

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Speaker 2: old adage goes you're either coaching it or allowing it

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Speaker 2: they practice heavier packages because they got one of the

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Speaker 2: play action off of. Like, that's simply on the coaching,

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Speaker 2: It just is. And I get, you know, their first

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Speaker 2: it's like sometimes you're gonna have drops, and they did tonight.

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Speaker 2: They had a bad drop on a fourth down like that.

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Speaker 2: That's not on the player, it's on the wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not saying it's not on Jordan Love. I

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Speaker 2: And they had a couple drops to night that were

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Speaker 2: in the second half in big spots is just an embarrassment.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, when you get gifted that situation when Sirianni

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Speaker 2: very small. And it's not like there is ten seconds left.

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Speaker 2: You got almost thirty seconds. So if you hit two

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Speaker 2: they did. And I understand the frustration when it comes

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Speaker 2: on Matt Lafleur after watching that game, because their defense

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Speaker 2: is really, really good. It really is. I mean Parsons

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Speaker 2: the one play where he chased down where he chased

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Speaker 2: The linebackers making plays all games. They play really hard.

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Speaker 2: That they are a well coached, physical, fast defense. It's

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Speaker 2: a defense that you go, we can make a run

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs with the offense. No chance, absolutely no

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Speaker 2: chance one. Jordan Love is too big of a roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the first half I thought Jordan Love,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it was like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football bad, but he was not good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at one point in time, late in the first half,

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Speaker 2: I think they had one passing yard, he had thrown

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Speaker 2: one twelve yard completion, and he'd also taken an eleven

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Speaker 2: yard sack, which the eleven yard sack was just awful.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just scrambled and turned right into it.

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Speaker 2: It was really really bad. But when your quarterback's gonna

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Speaker 2: be up and down, it is incumbent on your coach,

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Speaker 2: who is also the play caller and quote unquote a

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Speaker 2: quarterback guru, to figure it out like that. Like ultimately, Sirianni,

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Speaker 2: his job motivation, you know, corral the coaches motivate the players,

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Speaker 2: the timeouts when to go for it, like he's the CEO.

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleor is not the CEO. Matt Lafleoor is the

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Speaker 2: maestro over there when the offense is on the field.

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Speaker 2: So why when the offense sucks for the Eagles, everyone

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Speaker 2: talks shit about the offensive coordinator, not Nick Sirianni. And

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Speaker 2: I thought Matt Lafleur tonight had his like first moment

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Speaker 2: bounced in the first round. I can see a scenario

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. And I've been talking about that

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Speaker 2: because I've been getting asked about that a lot. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I ever believed it. I just felt

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Speaker 2: the momentum from fans from the internet talking about it tonight,

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Speaker 2: sitting on my couch taking that game in when that

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even just talking about that last thirty

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Speaker 2: second sequence of their offense, just the entire fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: the play call, even this, Like you can tell me

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs makes a mistake when he turns in on

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Speaker 2: what would have been probably minimum thirty five yard gain

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Speaker 2: if he just turns the right way. But why are

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Speaker 2: the details the illegal formations? Josh Jacobs turning the wrong way?

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Speaker 2: That is a reflection of coaching. That's the way football works.

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Speaker 2: You don't fire Josh Jacobs based on the contract. You're

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Speaker 2: definitely not firing Jordan Love. You're not firing these wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna fire the head coach. So I finally come

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Speaker 2: to the conclusion that Matt Lafleur is now officially in trouble.

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Speaker 2: It was talked about before the season that like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they didn't get a contract extension, and then you watch

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Speaker 2: a situation like this on Monday Night football against the

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Speaker 2: defending champs, against a team that's going to be in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and you make coaching mistakes and it costs

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Speaker 2: you the game. Because this was a situation, it's not like,

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Speaker 2: well we just got boat raced. We lost twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seven, right, we got killed. No, it was like

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Speaker 2: zero zero the majority of the game, Right, you lost

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Speaker 2: ten to seven, ten to seven. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: that one's going to be tough to stomach. And when

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Speaker 2: at Lambeau. That's that ain't good. That's not good at all.

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Speaker 2: And we look last year, what did the Packers in

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Speaker 2: They went one in five in the division. What's doing

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Speaker 2: in this year? Well, it's like they're losing to the

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Speaker 2: bad teams like the Panthers and the Browns, and now

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Speaker 2: they're also losing to the good teams. So I think

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Speaker 2: the Packers right now are just they got to have

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Speaker 2: a come to Jesus moment because if the Lions found

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Speaker 2: a little momentum with Dan Campbell calling plays, well they

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Speaker 2: get the Eagles next week on Sunday night football off

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Speaker 2: not only a short week, a short week on the road.

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Speaker 2: What time is Philly going to get in their beds tonight,

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Speaker 2: check out Tyler Shuck. Like I'll be honest, I didn't

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Speaker 2: watched all of his completions. I was blown away. He

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Speaker 2: actually looked really good. I get it, he's playing Carolina,

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Speaker 2: and I also get it. He's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 2: He's probably the oldest rookie or one of them, in

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Speaker 2: what fifteen years ago or twelve years ago, I think

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Speaker 2: And he was obviously not very good. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to overreact to one game. But if you just

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Speaker 2: really impressed. He's big, he can move, and he has

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Speaker 2: was also really really good on third down. He had

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Speaker 2: a beautiful bomb down the right sideline to to Chris

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Speaker 2: Alave And like, you just watch him in that game.

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Speaker 2: Compared to the quarterback on the other side, it's not

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Speaker 2: even a question the guy that has more talent. It's

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Speaker 2: the twenty six year old over the five foot nine,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pound guy. And I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to beat up on Bryce Young. I like him as

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Speaker 2: a guy, but he's just not a very good player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, you just have to acknowledge,

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes a guy gets drafted and you look back,

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Speaker 2: And it's always easy to play Monday morning quarterback in

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Speaker 2: draft situations. I'm as guilty as anybody. And I'm not asking,

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Speaker 2: like acting like Tyler Schuck is the next Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: or Justin Herbert, But when you just watch those two

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Speaker 2: of times when the Panthers had the ball and he

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Speaker 2: threw one interception Bryce Young did where it was probably like,

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Speaker 2: you know, an eight to ten yard out and he's

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Speaker 2: just throwing it to a spot. But he would not

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Speaker 2: see because the offensive tackle is getting driven into him

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Speaker 2: and the defensive lineman. They're both five six inches taller

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Speaker 2: than him. He has no vision, so he's just throwing

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Speaker 2: it over there and it was like just your classic

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Speaker 2: of all of Sunday, and I was Shuck went nineteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty seven for two hundred and eighty two yards

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Speaker 2: and two touchdowns, and again made big plays with his legs,

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Speaker 2: made big plays scrambling around to throw through a beautiful

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Speaker 2: deep ball, through a couple seed passes over the middle,

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Speaker 2: because some of those, like you saw tonight, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: of put it on the line. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: harder throws I think in the NFL, any throw over

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Speaker 2: a linebacker, but also not too high. You can't give

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Speaker 2: Dayball getting fired and which we had talked about yesterday

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Speaker 2: when I was with Colin. It was like, this feels inevitable,

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Speaker 2: especially after the stories that came out during the week

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Speaker 2: crumbled to Denver and their ownership was going back and forth,

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Speaker 2: and I think cooler heads prevailed when they landed in

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Speaker 2: New York, maybe a couple of cocktails and everyone just

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Speaker 2: chilled out. But there was no coming back from yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You can't blow a ten point lead with six or

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Speaker 2: seven minutes to go with the penalty situation, and it

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Speaker 2: cost him his job today and clearly they're giving Kafka

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Speaker 2: a run. But you know what's funny is Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 2: gets shitit on all the time about having no business

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Speaker 2: being a head coach. When it was he going to

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Speaker 2: get fired and Brian dave Ball went twenty forty and one,

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Speaker 2: twenty forty and one. I mean, that's that's really bad.

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Speaker 2: I look today Mike McDaniel in Miami, which is a

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Speaker 2: way worse franchise historically than the Giants. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: would say Miami post Dan Marino in like the late

528
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Speaker 2: nineties has been one of the worst franchises in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel has gone thirty one and thirty. Now this

530
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Speaker 2: year they're three and seven. They are not very good.

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Speaker 2: But after the GM gets fired, everyone's saying this team sucks.

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Speaker 2: They trade a bunch of guys. Two of their last

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Speaker 2: three games they have beaten the living piss out of

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Speaker 2: their opponent. Three weeks ago they played Atlanta and they

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Speaker 2: blew the doors off them. Yesterday against the Bills, which

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Speaker 2: I would say most people have the Chiefs game, would

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Speaker 2: say this is a legitimate Super Bowl contender. That game

538
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: was not close. The final score might say thirty to thirteen.

539
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: That game felt fifty to nothing. They beat the crap

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Speaker 2: out of him. There was a pretty funny video of

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Speaker 2: Mike somewhere in South Beach driving around by the Bills

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Speaker 2: bar like rolling down the window and smiling. I just

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he's getting a bad rap. I really

544
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Speaker 2: do not that he should get a contract extension or

545
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Speaker 2: even keep his job, but I think it shows how

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Speaker 2: we pick and choose. It does feel that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, you know this, he's goofy, he's small, he

548
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Speaker 2: wears these stupid pants. Did everyone just started picking This

549
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: is what I've been saying about the Browns forever. I

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Speaker 2: don't hear anyone. Every time I look up.

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Speaker 1: Brown's lose, Brown's lose, Brown's lose, Brown's lose. They're playing

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Speaker 1: Dylan fucking Gabriel. They drafted him in the third round.

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Speaker 1: Browns lose brow You could you goo, you wouldn't find

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Speaker 1: anyone to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I think the Browns need

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Speaker 2: to contemplate making some tough decisions with management and coaching.

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Speaker 2: No one says the thing. Everyone's like Dave Ball's gotta go,

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Speaker 2: McDaniel's gotta go, everyone's it's crazy. I mean, if I

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Speaker 2: was Mike McDaniel, the Browns would die to have my

560
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Speaker 2: record over the last four years. They would die. And

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Speaker 2: the one thing he has shown is like, listen, we

562
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Speaker 2: could say whatever you want about Tua, Like on given weeks,

563
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Speaker 2: I can make him look pretty good. Every time I

564
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Speaker 2: look up at Dylan Gabriel, he looks awful. So and

565
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: again it gets back to listen. The Schor thing was

566
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Speaker 2: a story in itself. Never see anything quite like that. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of stories that came out after

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Speaker 2: the draft. Like most people, I thought, listen, he might

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Speaker 2: not go in the first round, but he's probably gonna

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Speaker 2: go in like second or third. Then you go in

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Speaker 2: the fifth. Not in a million years that I ever

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Speaker 2: think Dylan Gabriel is gonna go in the third. I

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Speaker 2: do a lot of hardcore Oregon fans like, yeah, I'd

574
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Speaker 2: probably get drafted in like the seventh round. It's not

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Speaker 2: because he wasn't a decent college player. He was good,

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Speaker 2: but he's got a weak arm. You play, We're seeing

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Speaker 2: it all over the country. You saw it tonight. You

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Speaker 2: play in Green Bay, you better have a big arm.

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Speaker 2: Wind is pumping, it's freezing cold. You play in Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: wind is pumping, freezing cold. You better have an arm. Baltimore, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: New York, New England. You give me a weak arm quarterback,

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Speaker 2: I will short that team because it's not possible to play,

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Speaker 2: you know, that team over a period of time in

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Speaker 2: It's like Caleb's ballt right through the wind. You need

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Speaker 2: a strong arm. Look at who the two best Bears quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how good Caleb is. You know, once they

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Speaker 2: start playing some real defenses. But Caleb's arm is gonna

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Speaker 2: work in Chicago, just like once upon a time, Jay

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Speaker 2: Cutler's arm worked in Chicago. Dylan Gabriel's arm ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: work in Cleveland. I think most people in the NFL

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Speaker 2: say neither is shad or neither guy has a big

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Speaker 2: You lose games like that, like it. It does not

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642
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Speaker 2: six years. Right. But the report was that they had

643
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: offered him twenty five to thirty million dollars and Brian

644
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: Kelly rejected both. And I do wonder if some of

645
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: these programs, you know, I think Florida State is going

646
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: through this. They just got worked by the worst Clemson

647
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: team in twenty years, but they can't afford to pay

648
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Mike Norvell fifty million dollars. So when you make a

649
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: decision emotionally to fire somebody, and I'm not saying they

650
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: were wrong to fire Brian Kelly, he was horrendous that

651
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: they were not good. He had he was in year

652
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: four and had built a bad team. He's an offensive

653
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: line guy. Their offensive line couldn't block mirror you. I mean,

654
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: it's a major, major problem. So you better have the

655
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: money to figure this out and understand the economics of

656
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: this sport of like, why would he cut you a deal?

657
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: So when it's reported that he's not going to accept

658
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: a buyout of twenty five to thirty million, it's like, yeah, no, shit, no,

659
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: my dog would say no to that. What are we

660
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: talking about? And I do wonder if some of these schools,

661
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: specifically LSU, made such a rash, emotional decision and the

662
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: ad just got fired right after, so the guy that

663
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: made the decision didn't even last an extra week. And

664
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: I think sometimes in these situations with money, I've been

665
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: saying this forever in college football different in the NFL.

666
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Like when you're an agent and you negotiate a coaching contract.

667
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: In the NFL, you're dealing with the GM, the guy

668
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: that negotiates the salary cap, and the owner. A lot

669
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: of them that have a lot of business experience, Their

670
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: job is money. They talk about money, They talk about

671
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: contracts and they talk about million dollar deals, what's guaranteed

672
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: and what's not guaranteed. Where in college athletics you deal

673
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: with an athletic director, A lot of those guys work

674
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: their way up either in marketing or fundraising, not necessarily

675
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: doing fifty million dollar contracts with an individual coach. They

676
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: were just hey, will you give us five hundred thousand dollars,

677
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: We'll give you a suite, right, That's how they work

678
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: their way to become quote unquote guy running the athletic department.

679
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: But ultimately he's not even in charge. He answers to

680
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: the president and usually the border regents, which is full

681
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: of academia, full of academic people whose life revolves much

682
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: more around the classroom and the grants that a lot

683
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: of these schools get from government to fund research, fund

684
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: things in the academics part of their institution, which is

685
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: the reason the institution exists. And clearly Jimmy Sexton has

686
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: taken advantage of all these people over the I would

687
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: say robust economic boom of college football, you could include

688
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: college basketball as well, over the last fifteen to twenty

689
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: years of television and has taken the amounts of money

690
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: to a completely different level where in the NFL, it

691
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: is still very, very difficult to negotiate crazy contracts, like

692
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: Andy Reid had to win super Bowls before he started

693
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: making big money for the Chiefs, like Ady Reid wasn't

694
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: making I don't think fifteen million dollars seven eight years ago.

695
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: It is hard to get huge money in the NFL.

696
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: And even once you do, some of these buyouts are

697
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: not like college football, because you're not just going to

698
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: take advantage of of Howie Rosman, Jeffrey Lurry and the

699
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: seven people he has negotiating contracts. So not the way

700
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. It's going to be much more difficult,

701
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: even if like you have a good relationship with everyone

702
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: in because you work hand in hand with them, right,

703
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: And I just think this college football situation I read

704
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: an article about. I think Feldman and a bunch of

705
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: guys talked to a bunch of unnamed agents if they

706
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: thought things were actually gonna change, and all the agents

707
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: laugh They said, no, no chance, Like these contracts are

708
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: not gonna change because you won't get my client if

709
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 2: you do not follow the precedent that's already been set

710
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: by all these deals. So I think Brian Kelly listened.

711
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: He might be a douchebag. I wouldn't want him to

712
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: be my coach. I have no problem with them firing him.

713
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: But once you decided to do it, like fifty three

714
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: was gonna be the number best case scenario, maybe if

715
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: you could somehow find forty five million dollars to cut

716
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: him a check today, maybe you get him to accept that.

717
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: But you can't, and now you're gonna be stuck paying

718
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: him for a long long time. Okay, I don't think

719
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: I've really mentioned this guy in the last twenty four hours.

720
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: And I do like these international games. Once the daylight

721
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: saving hits and we go to mountain time here in

722
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Arizona and the international game starts at seven thirty, I

723
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: can get up, have a cup of coffee and watch kickoff,

724
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: no problem. And I would say one guy who has

725
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: been zoned in this entire season and it's been really,

726
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: really fun to watch, is Jonathan Taylor. Personally, my favorite

727
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: position in football is running back. It encompasses everything, right.

728
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: You got to take punishment, you know, physically between the

729
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: tackles and in the trenches like you are a linebacker

730
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: coming downhill, so you have to run into people countless

731
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: times of game, just straight downhill that there is no

732
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: avoiding it. You have to have the speed and the

733
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: agility to have outside the tackles make dbs miss and

734
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: run around them. You obviously have to pass protect like

735
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: you are an offensive lineman with screaming linebackers and outside

736
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: linebackers and pass rushers coming off the edge where you

737
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: have to square them up in the chin and slow

738
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: them down before your quarterback makes it throw. Obviously, you

739
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: also have to catch the ball like a wide receiver

740
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: in this modern game to be considered a three down,

741
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: all around high end back. And watching Jonathan Taylor, it's

742
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: kind of like football porn one. I really marvel like

743
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: to me a good running back, you watch any good player,

744
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, bust a thirty forty fifty yard run. My

745
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: mom can see the ability. But like sometimes when you

746
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: watch a guy run for seven yards, it's like, God,

747
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: that guy that should have been a two yard game

748
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: or that should have been a one yard loss. It

749
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: happened at night multiple times, Like I think Josh Jacobs

750
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: right now, listen what Saquon did last year and the

751
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: hype on Saquon over the course of his career. Special

752
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: talent like Dave Gettleman once said he was a Hall

753
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: of Fame talent coming out of Penn State. I think

754
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is a top three or four running back

755
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: in the league. I mean from a physical standpoint. He

756
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: did have the brain fart tonight where he ran the

757
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: wrong way out of the backfield, but catches the ball well,

758
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: breaks tackles, has great feet within the hole, can make

759
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: a guy miss, can break arm tackles, has excellent short

760
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: area quickness. Like just a pretty special player. And it's

761
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: just really fun to watch a running back have a

762
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: great season because it's weekend, week out. Everyone on the

763
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: other team knows you're gonna get the ball. Everyone on

764
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: the other team knows that they're going to depend on

765
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: you to carry them. And when a situation like the Colts, like,

766
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: let's face it, Daniel Jones is not some elite quarterback.

767
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: And you saw if you watched and got up early.

768
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: Once you start hitting him. I don't want to say

769
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: he melts because he's not a freight or anything, but

770
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: he does not play as well and it felt like

771
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: he was kind of crumbling. He did make a nice

772
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: road to Tyler Warren for a big first down, but

773
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: it was like, we're just gonna ride this guy, and

774
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: he has two hundred and forty four yards. He basically

775
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: has the game clinching big run. I guess it wasn't

776
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: the game clinching, but it felt like a moment that

777
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: helped win them the game. Obviously, they ended up winning

778
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: it in overtime, but I've just been blown away by

779
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: watching this guy play. And we have three straight years now,

780
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: from Christian McCaffrey three years ago or two years ago,

781
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: to Saquan last year to Jonathan Taylor this year where

782
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: we have just seen a running back basically put a

783
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: franchise on their back and be their best offensive player.

784
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: And I understand that everyone votes for quarterbacks. The MVP

785
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: feels like it has become a quarterback award, But like, if

786
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: the Colts win thirteen or fourteen games and are the

787
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: number one seed in the AFC, this guy has to

788
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: be very seriously in the conversation because he's not only

789
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: clearly their best player, I mean he's on pace potentially

790
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: for twenty five ish touchdowns, you know, seventeen eighteen hundred yards,

791
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: and he is the engine in this offense. And I've

792
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: just I really thoroughly enjoyed Sunday morning getting up and

793
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: just watching Jonathan Taylor play football. And if you're a

794
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: Colts fan, you guys have had some great offensive players.

795
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're my age, you know, from Peyton

796
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Manning to Andrew Luck to all the guys Peyton played with,

797
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: to Andrew played with, t Y Hilton to now this group.

798
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: You know, Alex Pierce is really really talented guy. Tyler

799
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: Warren looks like he's got a chance to be a star.

800
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: But Jonathan Taylor, you know, every once in a while,

801
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: you just like I had a special season, and it

802
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: feels like that is what he's doing right now and

803
00:43:51,239 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: what all else isn't working? Call twenty eight number at

804
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire into

805
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: those dms, get your questions answered here on the show.

806
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: We'll start with Matt big picture question for you. I

807
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: still believe the Bills can win Super Bowl this year.

808
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: Because Josh Allen is the best player in the league.

809
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: You always have a chance. I don't quite get all

810
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: the McDermott hate. I think he's a good coach. People

811
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: seem to forget how bad the Bills were the last

812
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: twenty years. I could argue he's underrated. Josh gets a

813
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: lot of praise for winning games with quote good players.

814
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't Sean deserve praise as well? At some point players

815
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: have to make plays. I never played football, but when

816
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: I would go three for fifteen from the three point line,

817
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: we wouldn't win many games. We got Klay Thompson hitting me.

818
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: The failure of this team are on Brandon Bean. This

819
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: was the year to make a move to put this

820
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: team over the top. He's concerned about the future, but

821
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: let's try living for today. I don't think anything's gonna change.

822
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: It's tight knit group up this way. I'm sure the

823
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: Poogoulas will be having the beans and McDermott's over for

824
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Turkey Day. Where do we go from here? I don't

825
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: necessarily disagree with you on Bean. I think there's been

826
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, he just hasn't been that aggressive.

827
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I think the von Miller move kind of spooked him.

828
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: I did read, and I'm obviously I'm sure you know

829
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: this is like Jalen Wattle and Quinn and Williams were

830
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: two players who was all over and those teams wouldn't

831
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: trade him. So it's like, no team in your division

832
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: is going to trade you their best player, right, and

833
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Wattle like, I I don't know if that's the move.

834
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: Like you play in Buffalo, like you have enough offense

835
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: to me defense, defense, defense, and more defense. When you

836
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: have a great player like Josh Allen, like you build

837
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: around the defense, you can win and listen, you know

838
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Ken Kid is not Travis Kelce, right, Keon Coleman is

839
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: not justin Jefferson but with Shakir with Cook, Like, you're

840
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: good enough to win on offense, it's the defense which

841
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: always concerns you when you get to the playoffs, and

842
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, they should have been

843
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: more aggressive in that world. And sometimes you make a

844
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: financial mistake on von Miller at backfires. You get Joey

845
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: Bosa this year. Who listen, I totally that's a good move.

846
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: I got no issue with that move. But if you

847
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: can't win it, it's kind of like the Ravens, like

848
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: there was like a three four year window starting a

849
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and with a dash right now

850
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: through president, like what the fuck are we waiting for here?

851
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: The Chiefs took advantage. They won three and five years,

852
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: So you guys have two of the great players I've

853
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: ever seen. I'm talking in sports. I've been watching sports.

854
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 2: I love just saying that sports since the early nineties,

855
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: and I would say Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson ars

856
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: talent that is any player in any sport that I've seen,

857
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: like just their pure raw ability, but like part of

858
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: being a big time player, whether you're you know, Alex

859
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Rodriguez or Patrick Mahomes or Tiger Woods is winning when

860
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: it fucking matters. And you know, Josh Allen has come through,

861
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: but his team hasn't. At the end of the day,

862
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: it is a team game. Lamar Jackson's been pretty hit

863
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: or miss in the playoffs. But I think there's tangible

864
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: pressure every time the playoffs start on those two guys

865
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: more than any guy in the league because they have

866
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: been a dominant two players for much longer than everyone

867
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: else beside Mahomes. But Mahomes has already checked all the boxes,

868
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: like he's already done it though, And I will throw

869
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: it back to when you win early, Brady did it,

870
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: Rogers did it, It kind of takes pressure off you.

871
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: Not that there's not pressure on you each season, but

872
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers never got back to a Super Bowl, but

873
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: it didn't matter because he rattled the one off in

874
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty ten. Peyton Manning. I watched it grow and grow

875
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: when I was in high school in college, like a

876
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: lot of these guys ever gonna do it, and it

877
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: like carried over from college. And that's where I kind

878
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: of feel like in fairness, fear or not, it's on

879
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,479
Speaker 2: Josh and Lamar of like, guys, you are too good.

880
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: You can't let Jalen Hurtz or Jordan Love or Jared

881
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Goff or one of these other guys rattle one off.

882
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: But you gotta do it. But a lot of stuff's

883
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: out of their control. And like you said, the GM,

884
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure if if Max Crosby or Miles

885
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 2: Garrett would have been on the table, I would say

886
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: they would have been all over them, But who knows.

887
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it would have feel like the Eagles or

888
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs would have been more likely to make a

889
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: big move. I'm in my early thirties and grew up

890
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: in a time when it seemed like there was a

891
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: lot more importance placed on the linebackers. It seems like

892
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: in today's NFL they're being talked about less almost like

893
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: an afterthought, with the d line and corners getting more

894
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: of the attention. How do you see the evolution of

895
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: the role of the linebacker in today's NFL am I

896
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: totally off base with this observation. Well, over the last

897
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 2: fifteen plus years, the league has become so pass happy.

898
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, obviously there have always been teams. If you

899
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: have a Peyton Manninger Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna pass more

900
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: than you run, right, But I think when you get

901
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: to the point where every team wants to spread you

902
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: out and throw it, like, who is quote unquote a

903
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 2: running team? The Lions kind of, I mean they still

904
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: pass it all the time, the forty nine ers. I mean,

905
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: I watched Mac Jones throw over like three hundred yards

906
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: a game. Everyone throws it. It's why I forget who

907
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: went on this rant. But like the difference between college

908
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: and the pros is in college football, you know, I

909
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: think we think of it much more as a run

910
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: or a pass happy sport. But quarterbacks run all the

911
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: time in college football, right most of them. A lot

912
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: of the offenses have quarterback runs as a huge part

913
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: of their game. And in the pros, like most of

914
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: the top teams. Let's just look at the AFC. Obviously,

915
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: Josh and Lamar can run and be very effective at it,

916
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: and you have to, you know, scheme up to control

917
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: their running ability. But they have no problem throwing for

918
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: three to four hundred yards, right Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow,

919
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. I mean, the game is won rushing them

920
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: and covering. So it's just the nature of the way

921
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: it's built. Where I'm with you. I grew up on football,

922
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: you know, thirty twenty years ago, Well, a lot of

923
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: people ran, like I formations. How many teams employ a

924
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: fullback now, so that I mean that's a huge part.

925
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: Like before, like most people had multiple tight ends, a

926
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: full back and would have no problem being up ten

927
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: points and just only running the ball from there on out. Hell,

928
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: teams historically, if they were down seven points in the

929
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: third quarter, would approach the game no different than the

930
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: first quarter. You watch teams now, they get very, very

931
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: pass happy in some of these situations. Got a question,

932
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: do you think that winning teams need to start putting

933
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: in bids when these great coaches or quarterbacks hit the market.

934
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: If the Broncos made a play for Darnold or the

935
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: Bills make a move for Vrabel. It should not just

936
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: be the bad teams fighting for these hires. I think

937
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: the problem with what you're asking is the two examples

938
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 2: you used the Broncos. How many touchdowns did bow Knicks

939
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: throw as a rookie they made the playoffs? And Sean Payton.

940
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason that he's so soft

941
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: on bow Knicks is he's gone on a limb and

942
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: he said that I believe this guy is going to

943
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: be a star player. Bo Knicks is a rookie through

944
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: twenty nine touchdowns. So you have this guy as a

945
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: rookie not making any money, You've gone all in on him.

946
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: You know from a scouting perspective, you're not gonna pivot now.

947
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: I would agree that. I think if most Bills fans

948
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: would you rather have Rabel or McDermott today, I think

949
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: most of them would say that. Obviously, after the Dolphins lost,

950
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: you're going to fire Sean McDermott. After making the AFC

951
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Championship Game. He beat the Ravens in the second round.

952
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: He's been in the AFC Championship Game a couple times.

953
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: Like to me, when he gets in troubles, like you

954
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: lose in the first round. It's I don't think you

955
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: see many people getting fired after AFC championship games. It's

956
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: just not gonna happen. So if you get bounced to

957
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: the first round, yeah, okay, we can have some different

958
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: conversations here, but when you say you win some playoff games,

959
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: You're just not gonna get fired. He's just not gonna happen.

960
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: He won multiple playoff games last year. Should the Browns

961
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: fire Stefanski and why don't they just play Chador? Now?

962
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: Gabriel will never be a franchise quarterback. I don't know

963
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: what the Browns are doing. Honestly, I'm just kind of

964
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: out on them. I'm kind of tired of talking about him.

965
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: I think their franchise is just kind of an embarrassment.

966
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: Trying to watch that game, like everyone shits on the Jets.

967
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: And this is what I've the theme I've had about

968
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: these two guys is, think how the Jets are treated,

969
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: Think how the Giants are treated. What the hell's the

970
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: difference with the Browns? Besides Stefanski and Andrew Berry clearly

971
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: are good with the media and listen, I have nothing

972
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: against Stefanski. First, I've met him one time. It's cool,

973
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: but they do get treated a lot different than other people.

974
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they suck. Can you imagine if in New

975
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: York and maybe aby gis talked a lot about in Cleveland,

976
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: your star player who's older asked for a trade. Your

977
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: team's not any good, and you could have traded him

978
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: for like two ones, two twos and just completely blown

979
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: it up, and you just paid him a hundred million dollars.

980
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: He's just worthless on your team, Completely worthless. I don't

981
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: get it. Like to me, I will disagree with Spytech

982
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: and the Raiders if they don't trade Max Crosby this offseason.

983
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: Part of like team building is you gotta be realistic

984
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: where you are. Right. You shouldn't buy a one hundred

985
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars car if you're making sixty thousand dollars a year.

986
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: And I think some of these teams are like, well,

987
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: we got to double downs, Like you're not even close.

988
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: You're not seven players away from being a player away,

989
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: So let's hit the ejection button on this thing and

990
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: kind of pivot. It doesn't mean you have to tear

991
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: it down to the studs, but when someone has value

992
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL and we've talked about this. They can

993
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: go from being worth a couple ones to one bad injury,

994
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: they're worth nothing. So I just think the Browns they

995
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: get an all time pass constantly. Now granted, if you

996
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 2: asked me what happened in that game, it was on

997
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: my little TV in one of a small boxes. I

998
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: didn't spend one ounce of energy. It was like that

999
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: game and the Saints and the Panthers. You talk about

1000
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: bad products. I mean, you talk about something that like

1001
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: you think the consumer wants to watch this. Now, I

1002
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: get it if you're a brownser Jets fan, but I

1003
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: think even you guys would agree like, that's that's rough.

1004
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: I actually just got a text from a buddy who's

1005
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: pretty close to the Saints, let's say, and he's like,

1006
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: I think we might have something in this quarterback. Are

1007
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: the Giants a serious or organization? Keeping Joe and firing

1008
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: day Ball is the dumbest move possible for this organization?

1009
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: In what world has Joe done to even warrant another year?

1010
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Say this all the time, man. The advantage of GM

1011
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: has over a coach is they can backstab when you're grinding.

1012
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: When you're on the field, you're hobnobine you're shaking hands

1013
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: and kissing babies with the elites and totally with you.

1014
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: Now just because you announced this guy's going to run

1015
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: the search, well, who's in the search. Who starts contacting

1016
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 2: the owners the agents? So I don't think I wouldn't

1017
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: put my life savings that Joe Shane is the next GM.

1018
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: Who is coming to work for Joe Shane? That's my question.

1019
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: No one would, Juice and I said this on the

1020
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: reaction I did a reaction video earlier when the news

1021
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: was announced. The Giants cannot hire another coordinator. They've done

1022
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: it a couple of times and it is completely backfired.

1023
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: They need a guy with head coaching. Chops. I'll keep

1024
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: beating this drum and if he keeps losing, Mike Tomlin

1025
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. Was Mike Tomlin gonna answer

1026
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: to Joe Shane? Who knows? Maybe they just get along

1027
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: and move forward. But to me, that's the thing I

1028
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: have circled Mike Tomlin New York Giants vikings question. I

1029
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: know most people like to shit on McCarthy for his

1030
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: poor performances. I was at the game yesterday and yes,

1031
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: the performance was terrible. Everyone says McCarthy, stinks, and Kevin

1032
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: is a genius. On the year, they are dead last

1033
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: and running the ball in third and short situations. When

1034
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: they pass the ball in these situations they convert twenty

1035
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 2: percent of the time, versus when they run the ball,

1036
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: they convert seventy percent of the time. I thought the

1037
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: mark of a great coach is his ability to adapt

1038
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: what's working, even if it's not what he likes to do.

1039
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: I just don't understand why Kevin is above criticism. You're

1040
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: preaching to the choir. I said it last year after

1041
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 2: the playoff game. I said, everyone is gonna pull down

1042
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: their pants and take a giant dump on Sam Darnold,

1043
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: and that's all that happened. I'm not trying toot my

1044
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: own horn, but I've been around this sport doing what

1045
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: I do judging it for a little while now, and

1046
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I was just stunned to see no one go. You know,

1047
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: maybe you should have mixed in some more runs in

1048
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: that game. Maybe you shouldn't when Sam was kind of rattled,

1049
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: and you could even say, as the Lions game was

1050
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: going on, hey take a deep breath, let's just have

1051
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: three straight run plays or maybe two runs in a screen,

1052
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: just to like take a little pressure off instead of

1053
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: doing five and seven step drops trying to throw bombs

1054
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: to Justin Jefferson. And this is why I thought the

1055
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy thing was a giant reach. He came from

1056
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: a place at Michigan where they dominated on defense, and

1057
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: they ran the ball down your throat. You said uncle,

1058
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: and then they ran it more, and then you said

1059
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: uncle again, and they called full back dive with giving

1060
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: it to a defensive tackle. Jim Harbaugh has wet dreams

1061
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: about running the ball for the first time ever. He's

1062
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: kind of changed with Herbert. Don't totally blame him, but

1063
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy rightfully, so run, run and run again. What

1064
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: did herba what's his name, not Herb Jones. I think

1065
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: that's an NBA player, whoever the team USA coach was

1066
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: in the ninety eighty hockey game. You know the famous meme,

1067
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: like again again, that's that's that's Harbaugh. Kevin O'Connell's the

1068
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: opposite four verticals. It's like, hey, Kevin, you're not really

1069
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: covering here. This isn't quite working, But listen, you are

1070
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: who you are. We all have our personality traits and

1071
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: it bleeds into whatever we do. For a living. And

1072
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's lean as a coach is the past former

1073
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: quarterback likes to pass the rock. That's not the team

1074
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: that drafted him. The new England Patriots. Bill Belichick would

1075
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: fall out of his chair. The Bill Belichick in its prime,

1076
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: not this version. You did whatever it took. What are

1077
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: you gonna do well? What do they not do well?

1078
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: Well?

1079
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: They don't stop the run. Okay, we're gonna run it

1080
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: thirty five times. Kevin O'Connell would pass. And listen to

1081
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: you say, Andy Reid gets pass happy, boys had Downovan McNabb,

1082
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: Alex Smith and obviously now Patrick Mahomes. So if you

1083
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: had shitty your quarterbacks to be a problem. But he's

1084
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: got an all time great so it kind of works.

1085
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: And Kevin O'Connell is JJ McCarthy, who I typed it

1086
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: into Twitter because I was like, what are people saying

1087
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: about Justin Jefferson. He's kind of getting crushed to my knowledge,

1088
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: and I watched I remember watching a preseason game with

1089
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. I'm like, God, this guy really pretty likable.

1090
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: Everyone has always said good things that I know about him.

1091
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: I think he's viewed as a high character guy. I

1092
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: listen as a quarterback? What am I am? I supposed

1093
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: to pretend to be happy. It's like, I think this

1094
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: guy's not good enough. It's like, well, let him learn

1095
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: through stuff. I'm getting paid thirty million dollars. We just

1096
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: won fourteen games. I'm trying to fucking win right now.

1097
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: So it's like, you have some patience. If I here

1098
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: have patients one more time, I'm gonna fall out of

1099
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: my chair. I really am. This isn't nineteen eighty seven.

1100
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 2: There is not patience. If JJ McCarthy, like can't beat

1101
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: the Bears this weekend, who are not good on defense.

1102
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: If he cannot beat the Bears, we got major problems.

1103
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: And I'm not even a Vikings fan. I'm just I

1104
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: just root like I like a lot of their players,

1105
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: and they're a fun franchise to be good. But man,

1106
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: he's just you have no clue what's coming pass to pass.

1107
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: He's just like one of the great roller coasters we've

1108
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: ever seen. Question for the pod. I don't know what

1109
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: to make of Darnold's bizarre turnovers multiple I he's bouncing

1110
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: off lineman's helmet in multiple fumbles from the blind side.

1111
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: Is this a random chance or is he holding the

1112
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: ball too long or something else? Your thoughts, Yeah, I

1113
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: mean that's probably some randomness to it. Once they were

1114
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: up thirty five nothing, like I'm sorry, I check out

1115
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: of that game, like the game is officially over against

1116
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett when you're up thirty five nothing and one

1117
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: of the turnovers I saw like the ball slipped out

1118
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: of his hand and he pushed it forward, it kind

1119
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: of spun and then they picked it off like he

1120
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: was up against his own goal line. Yeah, listen, he's

1121
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: gonna turn it over every once in a while. He's

1122
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: not gonna be Aaron Rodgers right from it. He's probably

1123
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: much closer to Stafford. There's a little gunslinger to him.

1124
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: But if I was a Seattle fan, I'd be pretty

1125
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: fired up because I think he looks pretty freaking good.

1126
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: You go up thirty to nothing on someone that fast,

1127
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: and I think they've I heard someone say today that

1128
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: they've been up thirty thirty points in the first half

1129
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: multiple times this year. I mean, that's that's pretty crazy.

1130
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to pull up Seattle's stats really quick.

1131
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy how accurate he's been. Seventy percent Kubiaks.

1132
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: The Shanahan Kubiak offense is very quarterback friendly. He does

1133
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: have six picks, but he only has ten sacks through

1134
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: nine games. That's pretty damn good, basically averaging a sack

1135
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: a game. I think Daniel Jones will sacks seven times yesterday, Okay,

1136
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: a couple more. I think it's clear everyone in Atlanta

1137
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: will be fired. But what I'm not sure is what

1138
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: happens to Penix right now, he looks like a bust.

1139
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: My thoughts, Atlanta needs to bring in McCarthy. That's Mike McCarthy.

1140
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: He is a proven coach with a history of getting

1141
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: a solid quarterback play. Either he makes Pennix into a

1142
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: serviceable starter in twenty six or Mike is allowed to

1143
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: pick his own quarterback in twenty seven. McCarthy has also

1144
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: proven he can operate well with weird ownership. I think

1145
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: the only works with Blank and Rich McKay commit to

1146
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: giving McCarthy three or four years. I think, now you

1147
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: have a couple of years of hiring these coordinators with

1148
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: you know this, what's your GM's name, Terry, Terry? Why

1149
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: am I blanking on it? But the GM that came

1150
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: with Arthur Smith, that survives. He's there now from the Saints.

1151
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: I just think that you bring in McCarthy, maybe try

1152
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: to hire someone from Green Bay and get some stability

1153
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: in your organization, because I'm with you, it is a

1154
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: little bizarre. You got rich McKay that is in charge

1155
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: of a trust, So anytime you're in charge of the

1156
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: owner's trust, you're not really a football guy, but you

1157
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: kind of are. You clearly can medal. You have a

1158
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: lot of juice, So I think McCarthy makes a lot

1159
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: of sense for Atlanta. I do wonder would Kaylin Duboorr

1160
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: be a sleeper? Would you just hire as college coach,

1161
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: because even if Pennix doesn't work, you could always get

1162
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: another quarterback. Him and Grubb are pretty good with quarterbacks.

1163
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: Or if you're Kaitlin, I mean, would you even entertain

1164
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: leaving Alabama if you're a top two or three seed?

1165
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Obviously wouldn't leave till the end of the season. But

1166
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: that's pretty good gig, you know. I'd argue the Alabama

1167
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: Crimson Tide is a better job than the Atlanta Falcons.

1168
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Colts After the big

1169
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: win in Germany, they still have some things to figure

1170
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 2: out our O line and pass pro needs a little help,

1171
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: but the team has a reliable running back. I think

1172
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: he's more than reliable all pro level players currently injured

1173
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: Ward and Buckner. If they were to get the one seed,

1174
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: I'd feel okay about my chances against anybody in the AFC.

1175
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: Totally agree. I mean, you have a guy that on

1176
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: any given game can go for two hundred yards and

1177
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: he is a dominant player, right, I mean, Jonathan Taylor

1178
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: as good as Saquan was last year, as good as

1179
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: Chrisian McCaffrey was a couple of years ago. That's the

1180
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: level Derrick Henry in his two thousand yard like, that's

1181
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: the level of this guy's dominance. It's a joy to watch.

1182
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: Running back's my favorite position. So I thoroughly enjoyed. I was.

1183
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: I watched every snap of that game, and it was

1184
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: fun because just watching him, I mean, break tackles, even

1185
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: just random like six seven yard runs are really impressive.

1186
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: I think offensively, you kind of got it all. You know,

1187
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: Pierce's big playability, Tyler Warren's ability from like from the

1188
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, probably the fifteen ish yards. He's just

1189
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: such a big target. So anytime you're in second or

1190
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: third in eight or nine or ten, you feel pretty

1191
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: good about Tyler Warren and then you saw I think

1192
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: it was like the fourth and two or fourth and three.

1193
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: Just throw it up. There's not gonna be a defender

1194
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: that can be that tall, right d Linemen aren't gonna

1195
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: be able to cover him, so you gonna have a

1196
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: safety or a linebacker on him. Most of those guys

1197
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: are like six to two at most, so you have

1198
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: such a big it's like playing basketball throwing an alley oop.

1199
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: To Kevin Garnett, I like your Offensi's chances as long

1200
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: as Daniel Jones isn't getting hit. If Daniel Jones starts

1201
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: getting hit, he kind of turns into a pumpkin. He

1202
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: kinda is like a crappier version. He can run, so

1203
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: it's not apples and apples, but kind of like the

1204
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: Cousins the golf. Like those guys when they start getting hit,

1205
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: they just they don't feel like the same player because

1206
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: they can't move. Daniel can move, but he definitely wants

1207
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: to stay within the pocket and throw. He's tough. I'll

1208
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: give him that. He got blast in the face and

1209
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: handled it. Congrats on getting married. We're on a similar timeline.

1210
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: I got married a few months ago and now we're

1211
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: expecting a baby boy. Congratulations. As a Niner fan, it

1212
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: sucks seeing the team get decimated by injuries in a

1213
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: year where the Super Bowl seems wide open and being

1214
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: played in Santa Clara. I think the Niners can be

1215
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: really good next season, assuming they get brock Ayuk Pierce, all,

1216
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: Fred Bosa, Mike yel Williams back. Do you think Salo

1217
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: will still be around our teams out there? You think

1218
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: he has a realistic chance of getting hired as a

1219
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: head coach If he does get a job, do you

1220
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: think he'd want to trade for mac joees bonus question?

1221
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: Have you been paying attention guy calling the games on

1222
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: the radio? I have guys actually about to have a baby.

1223
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: My good buddy, Guy Haverman tomorrow he calls forty nine

1224
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: er games now is having a baby tomorrow, So he's

1225
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: I think he's off this month of November, which he's

1226
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: not missing much like the Browns and the Panthers. But

1227
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: get back you call like the Seattle game. I uh,

1228
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of unknown. You know,

1229
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll, he got hurt last year, he's hurt again.

1230
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: Now he's been hurt in the off season. Like he's

1231
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: obviously an exceptional talent. I mean, he popped when he played,

1232
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: but he can't stay on the field, and he's so

1233
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: injured right now with I don't even know. They just

1234
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: say me he can't even practice, you know. And I've

1235
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: said this about Brandon Ayuke, like I don't really expect

1236
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: him to ever be the same. Whatever they get out

1237
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: of Brandon Ayuk is a bonus to me. Out of

1238
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: those two guys, much more dependent on pearsall. If they could,

1239
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: if they hadn't given that, they would cut Ayuk yesterday.

1240
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: They just can't because financially, you know, I think you hope.

1241
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: I saw Bosa was at the game walking around, Mikel Williams.

1242
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: It's an ACL and they're fine. Fred he's been at

1243
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: the game with a big contraption on his leg. Hopefully

1244
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: he's fine as well. But I mean, those are all

1245
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: those guys pretty big injuries. So I just think there's

1246
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: a lot of question marks. You know, they're gonna win

1247
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: probably minimum nine games, a decent chance ten, so it's

1248
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: not like they're gonna be drafting seven they're gonna be

1249
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: drafting twentieth. I just think they have a lot of questions.

1250
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: You're in, you're out. And Robert Sala, you know, it

1251
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: just depends how many different jobs are open. He'll definitely

1252
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: get some interviews. I don't think it's a great class,

1253
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: Like who are the top guys around the league that

1254
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: are gonna be interview? Kubiak, Joe Brady. I mean they

1255
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: got punked yesterday. I don't know some of these college coaches.

1256
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: Maybe Robert Sala has a decent chance. Maybe Robert Sala

1257
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: actually is much more likely to get a head coaching

1258
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: job this offseason than even I assume just based on

1259
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: the candidates. Okay, last question. I've listened to every single

1260
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: episode you've ever created. I like this guy. I know

1261
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: Thursday night football has been a thing for a long time,

1262
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they're making a lot of money, but

1263
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: don't you think they would be better off making it

1264
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: on Friday instead? Gives an extra day for players to

1265
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: rest their bodies and coaches an extra day off of preparation.

1266
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: It's about TV, and Friday night's not a good TV night.

1267
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: Just historically. Maybe society changes with technology, but people aren't home.

1268
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the best television night of the week is

1269
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 2: usually Sunday. Everyone's home, right, Friday and Saturday can be

1270
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: pretty hit or miss. So I think Friday that has

1271
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: more to do it. And there's that rule based I

1272
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: think it's like tax exempt status is tied to, you know,

1273
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: or high school football playing on Friday. The NFL is

1274
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: not allowed to except like after a certain date, which

1275
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: is like early December. Why they play Friday games in December.

1276
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: So I think that plays a part too. I think

1277
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: Thursday good night, most people are home, and the Friday,

1278
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: you know that, whatever that rule is, I'm probably speaking

1279
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: out of turn a little bit. I don't know all

1280
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: the details. I know people have talked about it before,

1281
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 2: but I think more has to do with that. So yeah, okay,

1282
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: very excited. A long time ago, within the last maybe

1283
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: eighteen months a year, one of our sales guys said, hey,

1284
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: we got this opportunity, and I had seen folds of

1285
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: honor around and he kind of explained it to me,

1286
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: and it was a no brainer for me. I mean,

1287
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 2: my father, his brother David, was killed in an ambush

1288
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: and Vietnam, and back then, just like in any war,

1289
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: you know, he was stationed over in Germany at the time.

1290
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: They immediately yank him out because you can't have the

1291
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: whole family die in war. And I saw the impact

1292
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: that had He didn't even have children, but I saw

1293
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: the lasting impact that had on my father. Not now

1294
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: my brother's younger son is now named David, so his

1295
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: name can can live on. We have a lot my

1296
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: both my grandparents were My mom's dad flew in World

1297
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: War Two, and my wife's cousin was just just got

1298
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: out of the Air Force and flew for for years

1299
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: in Iraq and Afghanistan. So I'm very, very excited to

1300
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: have on the president Folds of Honor Colonel Nick Nichols.

1301
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just this is awesome. So I need

1302
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: to tell a little people about yourself because where I

1303
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 2: come from, reading your bio, you would be considered a

1304
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: certified badass. So to tell what's your background a little bit.

1305
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: John, It's an honor to be on with you. Thank

1306
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: you guys so much for having us, and thank you

1307
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: so much for a sport and the gear that you

1308
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: got on right there, Man.

1309
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: I love it. I need more.

1310
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, So my background, so I'm a third generation fighter pilot,

1311
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: so kind of a rare breed and stuff, so followed

1312
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: in in my dad's footsteps, and who was also Vietnam

1313
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,440
Speaker 3: era fighter pilot who tours in Vietnam, who I unfortunately

1314
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: lost when I was young, and so my dad was killed.

1315
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 3: So I'm one of the you know, kind of the

1316
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 3: gold star kids that we support. But you know, life

1317
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: turned out, you know, to be a rich blessing for

1318
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: me and my family. Married my high school sweetheart, been

1319
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: married for thirty six years now, did thirty years as

1320
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 3: an F sixteen fighter pilot in the Air Force, seven

1321
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: combat deployments in both Iraq in Afghanistan. So I'm sure

1322
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: I was there at much the same time as your

1323
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: relative was, and so that's that's a pretty cool connection.

1324
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: But you know, it's been you know, pretty much the

1325
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: honor of my life to be able to go and

1326
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: do that, to be able to do it for as

1327
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 3: long as I did it, to achieve you know, my

1328
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: high school dream and stuff like that. You know, sometimes

1329
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: you as a kid, you dream big and kind of

1330
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: diet yourself along the way and stuff like that. But

1331
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: and everything kind of worked out, worked out in spades,

1332
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: and super honored to be sitting in the seat as

1333
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: a president of the Folds Wonner Foundation.

1334
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 2: Before we dive into Folds of Honor, I talk a

1335
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: lot of football, and I do think there are a

1336
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: lot of parallels with you know, kind of the hierarchy

1337
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: when it comes with the coach down to the players,

1338
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: the discipline of training. You train way more than you

1339
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: actually play. You try to make practice harder than the

1340
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: actual games. Obviously, football, you know, knock on wood is

1341
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: never life and death like you know combat. But I

1342
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it's it's by accident that

1343
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: a lot of football coaches have been directly connected and

1344
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: gone over. But you know, you are flying one of

1345
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: the most expensive pieces of equipment, you know that this

1346
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: country owns. Right, So the training that goes into missions.

1347
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: You can't just become a pilot just because your dad

1348
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: was a pilot, right, This is not one of those jobs.

1349
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: You have to meet certain requirements, you have to pass

1350
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: certain tests. Obviously that isn't there. Height, you know, you

1351
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: can't be too tall. Talk to a little bit about

1352
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: the training, and when you finally kind of I don't know,

1353
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: quote unquote get your wings or know that you kind

1354
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: of passed and you have the opportunity to do this. Yeah,

1355
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: you bet.

1356
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: So, you know, for me, I want to four year

1357
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: degree is required to college or you know, one of

1358
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: the academies and a church college and went through the

1359
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 3: ROTC program and everything life through college and the ROTC

1360
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: program is pretty pretty basic, right, and then you know,

1361
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 3: you graduate, you get commissioned and everything and go to

1362
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 3: pilot training. When you hit the deck at pilot training, okay,

1363
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: that is when you get the literal two by four

1364
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 3: to the face because you show up and go, okay,

1365
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: this is real now, I mean, this is like super real.

1366
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 3: I mean you're past a massive stack of books and

1367
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: all the things and everything else, and just the first

1368
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 3: year of your life is is just basic flight school. Okay,

1369
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: we've leave with the T thirty seven and the T

1370
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 3: thirty eight and you're not guaranteed anything. And so you know,

1371
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: from start to finish, you know the exact statistics what

1372
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: it looks like. You know, less than three percent of

1373
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: guys who start down that trail are actually going to

1374
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 3: make it out the other side as a fighter pilot.

1375
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 3: And you know, you develop, everybody kind of develops their

1376
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: own disciplines and stuff, and what's kind of neat with

1377
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: fighter pilots is like, you know, it's an eclectic group.

1378
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: It's like we're not like a cookie cutter version. I mean,

1379
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: I had guys who were, you know, six three, two

1380
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five pounds college football players and stuff

1381
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: like that, all the way down to guys who were

1382
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, five foot five and a buck twenty. But

1383
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 3: one thing that was common in all of us is

1384
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: just like a like a mindset. Okay. And I remember

1385
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: when I showed up at pilot training just married and

1386
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: everything else. I'm meeting all of these guys, and you know,

1387
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: they're sharing, like, you know, hey, I just graduated from MIT,

1388
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: or I just finished up my master's and whatever, and

1389
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 3: I've got two thousand hours of you know, civilian time

1390
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. John I had just graduated

1391
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: from Valdosta State University that nobody knows where it's at,

1392
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 3: with a degree in criminal justice. Okay, and god across

1393
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: the finish line with probably a solid three point zero.

1394
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: So at that moment in time, I just kind of

1395
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 3: looked at it and I just went, I went, Okay,

1396
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 3: you know a little bit intimidating, right, hearing guys resumes

1397
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, But I think the mentality that

1398
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 3: exists in all fighter pilots is that you might be

1399
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 3: smarter than me, you might be better looking than me,

1400
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 3: whatever it is you want to throw out there, but

1401
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: the one thing I can control in life is my

1402
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: own self disciplines and not let myself get out worked.

1403
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 3: And that was it, And that's the mentality that carries

1404
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: you through because you're going to get beat up, you're

1405
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: going to have things that don't go your way and

1406
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But it's in those moments, you know,

1407
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: those the guys and gals with the mental toughness to

1408
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 3: sit there and take a look at it and believe

1409
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 3: in yourself, like literally, trust yourself more you trust anybody else,

1410
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: because nobody else is going to help you. I mean, yeah,

1411
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 3: we fight as a team as fighter pilots, but ultimately,

1412
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you're in that cockpit

1413
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: by yourself and you control your own destiny. So I

1414
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: really think it was that aspect of it. And from

1415
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 3: start to finish, you know, pilot training is that first

1416
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 3: year and then you go to intermediate training called fighter

1417
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 3: lead in, and then you finally get to your F

1418
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 3: sixteen training, which is another six months. Okay, now, you're

1419
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 3: quote qualified in the F sixteen, but you're not combat ready.

1420
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: Then you show up at your first combat unit for me,

1421
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: Misawa Air based, Japan, and that's when you go through

1422
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: another three to four months of what's called mission qualification

1423
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 3: training to go. Man, they need to make sure that

1424
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: you're ready to be put on the pointing end of

1425
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: the spear, put bombs on the airplane and go be

1426
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: able to deliver the president's mail at that point and stuff,

1427
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: and so it's a long process. Once you're on the

1428
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 3: other side, it is a brotherhood like none other. I

1429
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 3: mean it is. I mean, these are your bros, your

1430
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: friends for life, the guys that you fought hard with

1431
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: when to combat with all the things. And again, just

1432
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: a huge privilege to be a part of that community.

1433
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: How fast is that F is sixteen going?

1434
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 3: So it can go twice as speed of sound, which

1435
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 3: is super fast, which is like, I don't know, nobody

1436
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: check me on my mouth here. It's like twelve hundred

1437
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 3: miles per hour something like that. It's crazy.

1438
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: Do you ever get used to that up in the

1439
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: air going that fast or is it like the first

1440
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 2: time does it kind of blow you away from simulation

1441
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 2: to actually flying it to then you kind of not

1442
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: numb to it, but just kind of realize the power

1443
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: that you're kind of flying behind.

1444
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you realize the power behind it. The funny

1445
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: it's like on takeoff when you hit the after burner

1446
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 3: and you're in five stages of after burner are going in,

1447
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: it's throwing you back in your seat, and that jet

1448
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 3: can accelerate from zero to five hundred knots and like

1449
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: nothing seconds. It's unbelievable. And speed's kind of relative, right,

1450
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you know, you've got speed like

1451
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 3: a NASCAR driver, where it's super relative because you're close

1452
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 3: to everything. So if you're up at thirty thousand feet

1453
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 3: doing the mock two point zero, it's not a whole

1454
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: lot different than you know, doing three hundred miles prior. Now,

1455
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: when we get low to the ground and stuff, there's

1456
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: a whole different ballgame there.

1457
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: How about landing on aircraft carriers, I'd imagine you've done

1458
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 2: that in your career.

1459
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 3: No aircraft carriers for me. So I'm an air Force guy,

1460
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: so we like a nice long eight to ten thousand ways.

1461
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm not out in a stormy sea and stuff.

1462
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 2: So't I can't even imagine doing that because what I

1463
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: don't care how much training, what prepares you for the

1464
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: the heartbeat flying into that thing, because there's there's literally

1465
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: no margin for air.

1466
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 3: Right. Oh no, this guy's are incredible, right and stuff.

1467
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 3: We give them a hard time, but you know the

1468
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: standard you know, Air Force, Navy, Marine pilots and stuff

1469
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: like that. You know, kind of fun camaraderie and giving

1470
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: each other a hard time. But yeah, mad respect for

1471
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 3: the guys that have to do that.

1472
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: So you get out of the military, how'd you connect

1473
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: with the Folds of Honor?

1474
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dan Rooney, Colonel Dan Rooney or CEO and founder.

1475
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 3: He and I go way back. So we're fighter pilots together.

1476
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 3: That's where we've met. So I met him way before

1477
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: Folds of Honor started, And kind of a fun story

1478
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,879
Speaker 3: with us is that he flew his very first combat

1479
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 3: mission on my wing, which is neat right, And so

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01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: it's kind of a brotherhood that has existed for a

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 3: very long time, and like I said, just a massive

1482
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: privilege for me to be where I'm at.

1483
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 2: How tell us a little bit about Folds of Honor,

1484
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,480
Speaker 2: you know, really kind of the meat and the potatoes

1485
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: behind what you guys do.

1486
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: Yep. So we're in the education business. So we provide

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 3: educational scholarships for the spouses and kids of both military

1488
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 3: members and first responders who have either been killed or disabled.

1489
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 3: We've been in the first responder business for about three

1490
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: years now, but in total we have put sixty three

1491
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 3: thousand scholarships out the door. We've been in existence for

1492
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 3: about eighteen years now, to the tune of about three

1493
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollars. And those are big numbers

1494
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: and stuff, but what's most important here is the lives

1495
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 3: we get to impact with this money and helping kids

1496
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: achieve their educational dreams, whether they want to go to

1497
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: college and university, tech, trade school, whatever they might do.

1498
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: We want to be able to come alongside them and

1499
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 3: help them and make sure that they can get there.

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Speaker 2: To tell the story you were telling me before we

1501
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: hopped on here about obviously the situation at the NFL headquarters.

1502
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: Well that within the last couple of months where the

1503
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: shooter and an off duty an officer was involved in

1504
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 2: his life was taken.

1505
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so detective Islam, who believed was with the forty

1506
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: seventh Precinct in the Bronx, it gave his life so

1507
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 3: others may live, and he was off duty, ran towards

1508
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 3: the gunfire at the NFL headquarters, ultimately was killed, but

1509
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: saved lives in the process. Left behind three young kids, Okay,

1510
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: one of them who was born after his death. And

1511
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: this is I mean deeply and meaningfully impactful and stuff too.

1512
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: You know, we want you know the world to know.

1513
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: We want these police offers to know that folds waterbacks

1514
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 3: the blue. Okay, I mean, these folks are putting their

1515
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 3: literally their lives on the line for us each and

1516
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: every day, two hundred and forty million times a year,

1517
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: nine to one one is out. That's nine one one

1518
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: is out.

1519
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 2: Every say that.

1520
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: Say that again, two hundred and forty million times a year,

1521
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: nine one one is out. That's a nine one one

1522
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 3: dial every six seconds. Detective BusinessLand answer that call. And

1523
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: you know what is you know, a blessing at this

1524
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: point for us, is that we can do more than

1525
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: just go to the family and say hey, we're sorry

1526
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: for your loss. We can say that, but then come

1527
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: alongside them and go you know what, we want to

1528
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: support you. We want to support your kids and make

1529
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 3: sure you achieve your future educational dreams.

1530
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 2: So in those situations, I mean that that's a pretty

1531
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: national story, right because the NFL is involved, But this

1532
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 2: happens all across the country firefighters as well. How do you, guys,

1533
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: besides just seeing a headline on your phone or in

1534
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 2: the paper or on the internet or whatever, get a

1535
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: hold of this information so you like connect with these

1536
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: people or these units or these you know, fire departments

1537
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: or whatever to make sure that none of this slips

1538
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: under the crack.

1539
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 3: I guess no, absolutely, So what happens in real time? Like,

1540
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 3: the best thing that we can do, I mean obviously

1541
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: is being on you know, awesome podcasts like this, right,

1542
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: and so get people getting the word out. People are

1543
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: going to listen. The word spreads organically when things happen

1544
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,839
Speaker 3: that hit the news. Okay, we never contact families directly,

1545
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 3: that would be that would be insensitive of us to

1546
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,520
Speaker 3: do that. But we do contact you know, the leadership

1547
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: in the organization, whether it's a firefighter, first responder, EMT,

1548
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: whoever it might be, just to let them know, hey,

1549
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: when it's appropriate, we are here as a resource for

1550
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 3: the family. Now within that, we are marketing hard towards

1551
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,839
Speaker 3: the first responder families that bud Light in the NFL

1552
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: have been absolutely amazing with this. You know, when we

1553
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 3: presented the Islam Family with future youth scholarships for the kiddos,

1554
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: you know, Roger Goodell was there and present, and so

1555
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 3: the NFL is, you know, very impacted by the work

1556
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: that that Folds of Honor is doing well.

1557
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: I want to everyone listening kind of tell them or

1558
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: point them in the right direction on behalf of my family.

1559
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 2: We made a five thousand dollars donation this morning. Like

1560
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: I said, the military, you know, shape my life having

1561
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: seen what I saw with my dad and both my grandparents,

1562
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: and now as my family expand sing it. You know

1563
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: with my my wife's family who flew and some of

1564
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: her best friends are firefighters and police officers, women, they

1565
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: are her friends. They've married guys, and you know, you

1566
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: see some of these stories and it just make sure

1567
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 2: your heart hurt. And you know, anyone with young kids

1568
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: knows they can't imagine one of their parents is disappearing.

1569
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 2: So I want to point everyone that's listening right now

1570
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: in the direction of how they get involved, because it's

1571
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: it's not about a financial number. It's there's a lot

1572
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: of different levels in which you can donate make an

1573
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: impact for you know, young kids to have a chance

1574
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 2: with their father or mother never going to be seen again.

1575
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. So go to Foldsvonnor dot org.

1576
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: You go to Foldsvonnor dot org. Okay, you click on

1577
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 3: that donate tab, and we want you to become a wingman.

1578
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Everybody knows what a wingman is. Everybody's out there's probably

1579
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: seen Top Gun Maverick or the first top gun, So

1580
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: you know what a wingman is. A wingman is somebody

1581
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 3: who flies alongside you, checks your sakes and never ever

1582
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: ever leaves you. We want you to become a wingman.

1583
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: And the dollar amount is thirteen dollars a month. That's

1584
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: thirteen dollars a month. The people might ask like that, well,

1585
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 3: that's kind of a strange number. Thirteen. Well, like the

1586
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: folded flag that you have on your chest there, and

1587
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: like the folded flag I have on my T shirt here,

1588
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: it takes exactly thirteen folds to bring it to that

1589
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: iconic triangle shape of freedom, and that flag means something.

1590
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 3: When you see that flag folded, it means somebody has

1591
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 3: paid the ultimate sacrifice and we can come alongside these

1592
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: families at thirteen dollars a month, which is probably less

1593
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 3: than what you know, folks spent at Starbucks this morning

1594
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: and received news about these families and let them know that, hey,

1595
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 3: we see you, we hear you, and we want to

1596
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 3: come alongside you and be a part of this Folds family.

1597
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: Tell us about the future of Folds of Mine or obviously,

1598
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: like you said three years ago, you guys have expanded

1599
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: to first responders, you know, from just the military, so

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01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: anything else on the horizon it.

1601
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: Is, you know, the need is great. We have, we

1602
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 3: have an amazing group of donors. We've been blessed to

1603
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: grow each and every year in terms of revenue. But

1604
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: the one thing that outpaces our ability to raise money

1605
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: is the number of qualified applicants that we get each

1606
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 3: and every year. So you know, I talked about some

1607
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: big numbers earlier, sixty three thousand scholarships three hundred and

1608
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: forty million dollars. For the twenty twenty five and twenty

1609
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 3: twenty six school year, we were able to fund eleven

1610
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 3: thousand scholarships. That was almost fifty four million dollars out

1611
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: the door. Just for this year, we had another seven

1612
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 3: one thousand and seven hundred qualified applicants that we could

1613
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: not fund. So our campaign moving forward is fund the unfunded.

1614
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 3: And you know, we can talk about several initiatives that

1615
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 3: we have going on with that, but the biggest thing

1616
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: for us is, like, while we are proud of what

1617
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: we have accomplished, you know, as as the president of

1618
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: the foundation, you know, I'm the guy that's sitting there

1619
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: with a spreadsheet every year after we take all these applications,

1620
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 3: and budgets are budgets, and we always stretch as hard

1621
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 3: as we can to fund as many scholarships as we can.

1622
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: But we've always had to draw that red line at

1623
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: some point. And you're above the red line, you're getting

1624
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 3: a scholarship, you're below the red line, you're not. So

1625
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 3: the goal is for us a challenge to the team

1626
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 3: that three years from now, you know, the bill will

1627
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 3: be somewhere near two hundred million dollars. Okay, the bill

1628
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: this year to cover everybody would have been one hundred

1629
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 3: million dollars. Those are big numbers, right.

1630
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: Well, what on average is that per person?

1631
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Is that?

1632
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: Is it like five thousand dollars per person?

1633
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: The five thousand, So you funded a scholarship that you

1634
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: changed one life, You know, and that's what we're asking

1635
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: people to do. So excuse me. It's five thousand dollars

1636
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: per school year. So once we get a kid in

1637
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 3: the system, we keep them until graduation. So once we

1638
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 3: say yes, we're committing to twenty five thirty thousand dollars

1639
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: in educational support, which is which is amazing, and we're

1640
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: not covering the full biddle, but we're taking a huge

1641
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 3: burden off of these families as we move forward. So

1642
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 3: what I've had challenged the team to do. You know, hey,

1643
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: we can sit around each and every year and go,

1644
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: you know, should it could have? Would it? Right? I'm

1645
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 3: like going, let's draw it. You know, we're going to

1646
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 3: put a flag in the ground and go, hey, three

1647
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 3: years from now, we're going to fund one hundred percent

1648
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 3: of scholarships. And you know, we're going to do that

1649
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 3: by amazing partnerships like b Anheuser Bush and bud Light

1650
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 3: and Budweiser and Yetti and Winchester and all these amazing

1651
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: companies that we have partners with. But it's the folks

1652
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 3: out there that are listening right now. Just think about it.

1653
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 3: If we could get a million people, a million people

1654
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: giving us thirteen dollars a month. What would that look

1655
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 3: like for the organization, We could say yes to everybody.

1656
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 2: That's awesome, and you know, what you're doing is obviously

1657
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: very powerful and it feels like, you know, for a

1658
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: guy that transitions, we talk about, you know, or read

1659
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: about people transitioning from the military, what do they do?

1660
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: It has to be a pretty powerful thing for you.

1661
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: The transition has worked out pretty well. So that's that's

1662
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: really awesome and glad that we could be a part

1663
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: of this and you know, help kind of spread the

1664
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: message it is. I want to get out on a

1665
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: little bit of a light lighter note if flying F

1666
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: sixteen like riding a bike, Could I just pop you

1667
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: in one right now and you just fly it around?

1668
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Or what would you need a little a little time.

1669
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 3: I think I could well, at least in my dreams,

1670
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 3: I can still get in it and like, yeah, I'm

1671
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: still you know, I'm still a top gun level kind

1672
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: of guy and stuff like that. Honestly, I could get

1673
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 3: in it. I could get her started, get her safely

1674
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 3: airborne and safely landed. As far as like employing their

1675
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 3: plane tactically, probably not, but I'm confident I could get

1676
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 3: her off the ground and on ground safely.

1677
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: To me, what's crazy is the technology aspect of everything, right,

1678
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: a guy flying a plane now relative do you watch

1679
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: some of these things on the guys flying the planes

1680
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: in the World War two, even Vietnam. I mean, it's

1681
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty impressive what they were able to operate

1682
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: back in the day, right.

1683
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I mean if you sit there and

1684
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 3: especially like at our you know, World War two era, right,

1685
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 3: especially think about you know, the bomber pilots, the pursuit

1686
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 3: pilots and stuff like that. I mean, they were literally

1687
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: like when you know, the formations were coming back home,

1688
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 3: sending there, counting how many airplanes would come back because

1689
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 3: they weren't all coming back, and they were flying into

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Speaker 3: some of the most dangerous skies that you know, the

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Speaker 3: world has ever ever seen. And just the you know,

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Speaker 3: unbelievable heroism and everything else that went with that. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're literally old school. They're clocked them up to ground,

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Speaker 3: you know, navigating around you know, they didn't have GPS

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Speaker 3: systems and all the other things that we have right now.

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Speaker 3: In bad weather didn't matter, you know, they were they

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Speaker 3: were going to go downtown to get the job. Done.

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Speaker 2: Ye had no yetti coolers and no protein bars on

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Speaker 2: their side, you know, was it was the complete bad assets.

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Speaker 2: Well well, colonel, I really appreciate your time and thanks

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Speaker 2: again for everything you do. And it was a it

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Speaker 2: was a pleasure finally meeting you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a pleasure to meet you, John. Thank you

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Speaker 3: again for your donation and you know, for the crowd

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Speaker 3: out there Foldsvonnor dot Or become a wingman at thirteen

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Speaker 3: dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Thanks the volume