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Speaker 1: Skinner in the middle, and it is me Justin Pennick.
Speaker 1: And this is the Day one Senior Bowl recap brought
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Speaker 1: to recap day one the American team national team. Lot
Speaker 1: of O line, D line, That's where our attension mainly
Speaker 1: lied the first day. Seems like, hopefully the practices are
Speaker 1: going to be getting up to speed a little bit
Speaker 1: of a slower pace today. Our producer Jeff did here
Speaker 1: during the second practice that some of the coaches wanted
Speaker 1: the guys to kind of pick up the intensity, but
Speaker 1: the intensity was there with the O line and D line,
Speaker 1: and we kind of knew that coming in with the
Speaker 1: talent that was coming in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the D line on the American team is what
Speaker 2: I'm here to look at, right. Yeah, you know, there's
Speaker 2: obviously guys at other spots, but when I when I
Speaker 2: come away from the Senior Bowl, I want to have
Speaker 2: some more thoughts on the d line American team, and
Speaker 2: I came away with that right. We'll talk about from
Speaker 2: Mars Stewart Dean Walker at think we should have a
Speaker 2: conversation about because there's gonna be guys that are really
Speaker 2: high on him and maybe some that are lower. Biggest
Speaker 2: stockup is Robert Smith though, because I miss Robert Smith
Speaker 2: being crammed in here with us. But hope he's doing well.
Speaker 2: But we will start with the national team as we
Speaker 2: usually do. Justin and you recorded all the one on
Speaker 2: one so we you know, watched them live, then go
Speaker 2: back and watch them and you'll always look at the
Speaker 2: small school offensive lineman just to see how they handle
Speaker 2: being here. And I didn't think he was the best
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. I think Josh Connolly at Oregon was the
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman for the national team. Greg's Abel out
Speaker 2: of North Dakota State, Sorry, excuse me, Gray's Able out
Speaker 2: of North Dakota State. You know he's an offensive tackle.
Speaker 2: He worked at only guard and center. Here at center,
Speaker 2: you could tell he wasn't used to snapping the ball
Speaker 2: and getting his hands up, but he still didn't do
Speaker 2: terrible job. You know, he's lost at guard. I thought
Speaker 2: he had the best reps of the day on the
Speaker 2: interior on a you know, an interior group down here
Speaker 2: that's maybe doesn't have the names that it has had
Speaker 2: in past years.
Speaker 1: There's a line that you say in some of your
Speaker 1: in some of your film breakdowns, Bobby kill the will, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's exactly what Zabel did today,
Speaker 1: is he would start reps and you know, hey, I
Speaker 1: feel like these on line D line one v ones
Speaker 1: that are inevitably designed for the defensive lineman to win, right,
Speaker 1: So it's not always being driven back five yards, but
Speaker 1: what he's able to do is he's able to cover
Speaker 1: really well for his hand placement.
Speaker 3: You saw the strength being able to hold up.
Speaker 1: But I mean he would eventually just get in a
Speaker 1: spot where it's like, if you take a screenshot of it,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's what good offensive line play is. It's like,
Speaker 1: did you kill the will for the defensive lineman to
Speaker 1: do anything and operate anything? In Zabel I thought out
Speaker 1: of out of at least the guys that maybe you
Speaker 1: weren't expecting, which I guess some people were really high
Speaker 1: on Gray coming in here, that out of some of
Speaker 1: the guys that maybe you weren't expecting he is skyrocketing
Speaker 1: after day one.
Speaker 2: And listen for a lot of these SEC guys that
Speaker 2: were going to talk about their film, is what's going
Speaker 2: to really matter to us?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: The Senior Bowl may not move us a ton, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I think I got exactly what I expected out of
Speaker 2: some of these guys, but it was good to see
Speaker 2: some confirmation on SEC small school guys, This here moves
Speaker 2: it for you, right, It moves the needle on what
Speaker 2: you think about him in Gray's abel, like you mentioned
Speaker 2: one on one for offensive, especially in tier office alignment
Speaker 2: will never look like great game film, But it's just
Speaker 2: can you stay in front of him with that full
Speaker 2: man the man relationship and can you get to a
Speaker 2: point where you're straining and stopping him from pushing you
Speaker 2: at around four yards at depth? AND's able did that
Speaker 2: every single time from the guard spot, and it was
Speaker 2: really nice to see Grum.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's about recoverability. I think it's one of
Speaker 4: the things that's the most lacking in college students coming
Speaker 4: up to the NFL level, and it's certainly something that
Speaker 4: smaller school guys you don't expect to see that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff already developed, but the recoverability is there. He
Speaker 4: understands how to reset his hands and get his weight
Speaker 4: underneath him and you know, end the rep essentially even
Speaker 4: if he is getting pushed back. So I thought grays
Speaker 4: Abel had a great day. And I think if you
Speaker 4: look back at the NDSU film, which I had watched
Speaker 4: the Colorado game yesterday before we had came here, and
Speaker 4: I was impressed with him already coming into this, so
Speaker 4: I wasn't shocked to see him have a good day,
Speaker 4: but it was good to see that he had a
Speaker 4: good day here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's only working on the interior as well, where
Speaker 2: a lot of guys like you know, worked at tackle
Speaker 2: and he's there's a very clear you're gonna play interior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if he's gonna exclusively go to guard
Speaker 1: or maybe a little bit less center stamps because there
Speaker 1: were some centers, but it's still impressive where I don't
Speaker 1: think he lost a single play, but we're nitpicking him
Speaker 1: a little bit at center. He just looked way more
Speaker 1: comfortable at guard. So if I if I were to
Speaker 1: guess a trajection for him, I would say it be
Speaker 1: at guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And again I think the best if watching
Speaker 2: the national team, the best player from the offensive and
Speaker 2: defensive line and edge group, I still walk away. Josh Connolly,
Speaker 2: I probably went in thinking that as well. But you see,
Speaker 2: you know, the quick feet, a strong punch, doesn't have
Speaker 2: the strongest anchor in the world. You'd like to see
Speaker 2: him hold up a little bit better against that sometimes
Speaker 2: where guys tried to work inside. But I thought he
Speaker 2: did a good job in the run game, especially versus
Speaker 2: Mike Green. Out of Marshall who will talk about so
Speaker 2: I thought he was the best player, and I mean
Speaker 2: that was the first player you recommended me to Walks
Speaker 2: before he came down here, Grom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The footwork jumps right off the tape. I mean he
Speaker 4: he He mirrors extremely well. He's got the quick feet
Speaker 4: to get out of his stance and get to his
Speaker 4: spot in pass protection. I thought he looked rock solid
Speaker 4: all day. I don't there might be like a rep
Speaker 4: here there where he looked less so, but I think
Speaker 4: he locked it down the entire day.
Speaker 2: There's two guys on the offensive line, one from the
Speaker 2: American team and one from the national team. Where they
Speaker 2: are my When I leave here, I want to go
Speaker 2: see your film, right guys, I had no preconceived you know,
Speaker 2: notion or film on and mine is Anthony Belton from
Speaker 2: NC State offensive tack well. He even got a couple
Speaker 2: of guard snaps. Six foot five, three hundred and forty
Speaker 2: five pounds. I wan't e guess he was three forty
Speaker 2: five by the way he looked. He looked a little
Speaker 2: slimmer than that. He moved better than that. He's a
Speaker 2: bit like again, obviously a big guy. He destroyed Mike
Speaker 2: Green right, who was the guy on the defensive line
Speaker 2: from the national team and projected to go a first rounder.
Speaker 2: He destroyed him. I had a lot of other good
Speaker 2: snaps where he just he just ended you know it
Speaker 2: quickly out there on the tackle spot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So I guess know one is a little bit of
Speaker 2: them all or he is on the national side. My like,
Speaker 2: all right, let's let's go back and see what see
Speaker 2: what your film looks like, because you've intrigued me here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's nasty, he's we were talking to some other
Speaker 4: people here. You know, it's not always gonna look super
Speaker 4: pretty with Anthony Belton because he is a little bit
Speaker 4: on the clunkier side. He doesn't have the uh, the
Speaker 4: same kind of footwork that you can see from Josh Connorley,
Speaker 4: although it's not bad, just like you were saying, but
Speaker 4: he always gets the job done. So definitely somebody that
Speaker 4: I had had some conversations about Anthony Belton before coming
Speaker 4: down here, and I thought he had a pretty good
Speaker 4: morning as well.
Speaker 2: Justin, who did you think was the winner out of
Speaker 2: the quarterback group, maybe even for the day, But I
Speaker 2: think your answer is probably from the national team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we have I mean you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to help me out with the pronunciation of these, especially
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: So we have Tyler Show from Louisville. Yeah, there are our.
Speaker 1: Guy from Canada, Taylor Algrisma, and then you have Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1: So that's the national team. So the quarterbacks on the
Speaker 1: American side in the afternooner Jackson Dark, Jalen Miller, Rodley Leonard,
Speaker 1: and then Seth Hennigan from Memphis. So clearly in the
Speaker 1: in the afternoon session the American session, the quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: a little bit more talented there, but Dylan Gabriel did
Speaker 1: have the best day. Now, I don't want to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a referendum that I think Dylan Gabris is
Speaker 1: like QB three in the sclash or even you know,
Speaker 1: the best quarterback here necessarily, But Dylan Gabriel got the
Speaker 1: most opportunities to showcase today that he was the best
Speaker 1: quarterback here, and he took advantage of those opportunities.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of receivers that dropped the ball
Speaker 1: down the field. He had a tight end that dropped
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. He had Xavier Verstrepo dropped
Speaker 1: the ball on the on the sideline for him. So
Speaker 1: even though if you're charting Dylan Gabriel's attempts and completions,
Speaker 1: the completion percentage may not be that great, the arts
Speaker 1: per tent may not be that great, but he had
Speaker 1: two big drops down the field. Dylan Gabriel really did
Speaker 1: look decent today and really took advantage of the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was the only QB that was
Speaker 2: really testing things out and trying to push the ball
Speaker 2: down the field and not just trying, like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: just get the ball out. Get like felt confident and
Speaker 2: what he's doing, and he you know, he should with
Speaker 2: the experience that he's had, and you know, being a
Speaker 2: Heitspan finalist, you know obviously performed the best, the best
Speaker 2: in college. Out of these guys, I thought he looked
Speaker 2: the best. I know, I do want to get back
Speaker 2: to some national team. But since we're on quarterback, and
Speaker 2: the Canadian quarterback Taylor Elgersman six four and one on ones,
Speaker 2: he looks the best. Right his first just on one
Speaker 2: on ones, he throws the ball really well. He's big,
Speaker 2: he's strong, and the first one just a thirty yard
Speaker 2: ball back shoulder on a rope. Right when it first
Speaker 2: comes out of his arm, you're thinking like, oh, is
Speaker 2: this like an underthrown deep ball. No, this is a
Speaker 2: beautiful back shoulder. You saw that when it got into
Speaker 2: eleven on eleven, it looked like a quarterback who played
Speaker 2: twelve on twelve in Canada and where his had three
Speaker 2: receivers having a running start. He didn't understand it. So
Speaker 2: I kind of got a little over maybe a little
Speaker 2: over excited just with like seeing some of his highlights
Speaker 2: and the talent that he has. And it was kind
Speaker 2: of like a comeback down the earth. But again, I
Speaker 2: still want you do see the talent where and this
Speaker 2: is his first time really playing eleven or eleven since
Speaker 2: last week. Gets some other you know, smaller bowl game
Speaker 2: and in Florida that listen. I just I want to
Speaker 2: see the talent. I want to see him day three,
Speaker 2: run a you know, a regular basic concept thing and
Speaker 2: get the ball out on time and see confidence wise.
Speaker 2: But since we're on the quarterbacks justin, we can talk
Speaker 2: about the American team. But before we talk about then,
Speaker 2: why don't we talk about something?
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Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: On the American side with the quarterbacks, with Jalon Milroe
Speaker 2: and Jackson Dart being the ones to highlight that, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to see a little bit of wow, and
Speaker 2: we didn't see any of it.
Speaker 3: I think that was more of coaching, right, sure.
Speaker 2: But at least test something out right, hold onto the
Speaker 2: ball and try and get the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: They round the ball locked in that second practice, sure.
Speaker 2: But when they did throw it was just the ball
Speaker 2: was either a checkdown and not like a you know,
Speaker 2: great job going through your progressions, just out there check down,
Speaker 2: just like quick, let me get the ball out. Jalen
Speaker 2: Milroe I took you know what you know would be sacks.
Speaker 2: Obviously he's not being tackled here, you know, miss some
Speaker 2: throws like he just didn't try and push the ball
Speaker 2: down the field as well at all. And the same
Speaker 2: with Jackson Dart. Right there was Jackson Dart I felt
Speaker 2: looked better. He had some better clean reads on some
Speaker 2: of his shorter throws, but he missed you know, a
Speaker 2: guy in the flat on a bootleg. Just no willingness
Speaker 2: to push the ball down the field even I just
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see quarterbacks who came here looking
Speaker 2: to push the ball. Now again, that could obviously be
Speaker 2: play calling down here. Sometimes I get very frustrated with
Speaker 2: the way some of these are coached, like they're not
Speaker 2: being coached like a showcase, and you know, like this
Speaker 2: shouldn't be day one of install this should this should
Speaker 2: be coached as a way to be a showcase. So
Speaker 2: there is some of that, But we've also been here
Speaker 2: on day one for five years in a row, and
Speaker 2: I've seen quarterbacks sometimes I don't even like make big
Speaker 2: boy throws. Right Kenny Pickett, who I thought had a
Speaker 2: horrible senior ball, I saw him make bigger, you know,
Speaker 2: big boy throws in the rain.
Speaker 3: They weren't even called.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we normally there's a lot of oohs and
Speaker 4: oz going on in practice, and everyone's looking at different directions.
Speaker 4: You kind of have to like find where the ooh
Speaker 4: and a's coming from. There was not a lot of
Speaker 4: that at all today morning or afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely like I going into tomorrow as I
Speaker 2: want to see more out of what Jalen Milroe and
Speaker 2: Jackson dark Art absolutely going to clean up the national
Speaker 2: team if anything else. Elijah Arroyo, you know, we spent
Speaker 2: a little more time in the trenches today. But Elijah Arroyo,
Speaker 2: the tight end in Miami. You mentioned that deep drop
Speaker 2: he had from Dylan Gabriel. He looked really good though.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, you mentioned a stick and nod where
Speaker 2: he leaned up.
Speaker 3: One stick and nod.
Speaker 1: He I mean, and again, like especially if you're a
Speaker 1: tight end versus a linebacker, like these tight ends are
Speaker 1: gonna win nine times out of ten, especially when they
Speaker 1: don't really know what's coming. But this stick and nod
Speaker 1: that Arroyo ran just left him in the dust. I
Speaker 1: mean you were talking ten to fifteen yards of separation,
Speaker 1: kind of just broke his ankles. So he did look
Speaker 1: really good today. He moves really well. This is a
Speaker 1: big like all these tight ends, I would say, maybe
Speaker 1: besides the one from Bowling Green and I don't even
Speaker 1: know if he's even here, Yeah, he's here here.
Speaker 4: He's a smaller side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so fan and junior. So he's with the national team.
Speaker 1: He's on the smaller side, but he's not necessarily small.
Speaker 1: This is a very big tight end class here, Dan
Speaker 1: and mobile and a lot of them can move in.
Speaker 3: Arroyo is definitely one of them.
Speaker 2: Speaking, the guy that I thought looked the best on
Speaker 2: the wide receiver side for the national team was Tauz
Speaker 2: Johnson and Orgon which he should he five 't seven,
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty six pounds, he should look better
Speaker 2: in these situations. But like there was some clean, just
Speaker 2: destroyed guys, even against like azaria A Thomas. I believe
Speaker 2: he's like viewed as like a late first round type
Speaker 2: corner out of Florida State. I don't know the exactly like,
Speaker 2: but smoked him pretty good on a couple of plays.
Speaker 2: And we've seen short gut you know, you know the
Speaker 2: usually there's a short king that comes out of here.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And Tank Dell was that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Calvin Austin, who you know not doesn't have the best
Speaker 2: career going on in the NFL, but he's a starting
Speaker 2: he's a starting wide receiver in the NFL. So that
Speaker 2: and then the other slot guy who's not gonna be
Speaker 2: this guy who burns you. I want to see Xavier
Speaker 2: Rostreppo clean guys up in one on ones and we
Speaker 2: talk about how this isn't the most realistic option for him.
Speaker 2: I thought Xavier Rostreppo looked fine today, but I just
Speaker 2: left wanting more because I thought he was gonna be
Speaker 2: the guy who you know, cleaned up in the one
Speaker 2: on one drills.
Speaker 4: I want to piggyback off of that feeling, right of
Speaker 4: what didn't have a bad day but didn't Wow, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna We mentioned Edge from Marshall Mike Green the other
Speaker 4: day that a little while ago, I was happy that
Speaker 4: he didn't just come out here and try and just
Speaker 4: run speed the entire time and just bend the edge
Speaker 4: the whole time. He did try to throw some power
Speaker 4: in there. It didn't really work, but that's what I
Speaker 4: want to see. I want to see him can like
Speaker 4: get coached up on how to use the two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty pounds that he has to his advantage, work
Speaker 4: speed to power maybe a little bit better, and just
Speaker 4: kind of do that. So like, yeah, for a guy
Speaker 4: who had seventeen and a half sacks or whatever he
Speaker 4: had at Marshall this year, you'd think that he'd be
Speaker 4: dominating down here, but there's a real he's It looked
Speaker 4: to me that he was working on things.
Speaker 3: They're so go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, it's the same talking point with Green about some
Speaker 1: of these smaller schools. It's like, well, they're coming here
Speaker 1: now to play bigger competition, you know, physically and metaphorically.
Speaker 3: You want to see what he's got.
Speaker 1: But even back to Rostrepo kind of thinking, the expectation
Speaker 1: would be he would come in here and have like
Speaker 1: a Lad McConkey type of week, right, the slock guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he broke records at Miami too, having cam
Speaker 1: Ward throwing him the ball.
Speaker 3: Good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So I think the expectation is maybe this year, you know,
Speaker 1: Verstreppo can be this year's Laden mccaukey. I'm still I
Speaker 1: still think that can happen for him. Through the final
Speaker 1: two days, did drop a ball on the side, a
Speaker 1: nice little hole shot by Dylan Gabriel. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: definitely looking for him for more out of him. Is
Speaker 1: there anybody else I would love to move to the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball for the national team. Is
Speaker 1: there anybody else offensively that anybody wants to touch on
Speaker 1: or bring up.
Speaker 2: Now, just let's let's what he got left on the
Speaker 2: national team.
Speaker 1: National team. Ali Gordon, the running back out of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: He was a fun interview this morning. He had a
Speaker 1: nice run. Donovan Edwards, the running back out of Michigan,
Speaker 1: also had a nice run.
Speaker 3: I think he was catching some passes too.
Speaker 1: Jalen Rivers out of Miami was playing center, guard and tackle.
Speaker 1: Much more comfortable on the interior at center and tackle
Speaker 1: a center and guard. So keep an eye out for
Speaker 1: Jalen Rivers. And that is it on the offensive side
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the national team and the defense, the
Speaker 2: group that we're looking to talk about, and that's the
Speaker 2: front four there. And I think there's two guys I
Speaker 2: want to focus on in this one, and that's Dion
Speaker 2: Walker out of Kentucky and then Omar Norman lot out
Speaker 2: of Tennessee. Two very different players. Dion Walker being six
Speaker 2: foot seven, three hundred and forty pounds, very athletic uh
Speaker 2: and then Omar Norman Lott six one, two ninety five
Speaker 2: obviously very athletic, plays with a lot of strength. I
Speaker 2: think it was the tail of two days.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Deon Walker and I want to have like a real
Speaker 2: deal conversation about him because he's probably the player we
Speaker 2: talked about more the most in the stands today about
Speaker 2: this is the American team, by the way, yes, the
Speaker 2: American side of the SEC side. Basically, he has highlights
Speaker 2: that are going to be shared around social media, including
Speaker 2: one where he knocks over an old man who's you know,
Speaker 2: holding a back a coach, not just a random old guy.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a snap where we were actually saying
Speaker 2: in the in the up in the stands, we were,
Speaker 2: you know, saying, like he doesn't use the power the
Speaker 2: way he needs to. And then on that play he
Speaker 2: takes the center, he drives his ass back on that play, right,
Speaker 2: you see what he is capable of. You see he'll
Speaker 2: run into a pass rush move with his hands, like
Speaker 2: that's really nice. I want to see so much more
Speaker 2: and more consistency out of him because he should be dominant,
Speaker 2: and especially against some of the guys that were playing
Speaker 2: like they finished the day with these compete period where
Speaker 2: you get one on ones from every position group. You know,
Speaker 2: he's going up against Jacksonville State center Clay Webb and
Speaker 2: he loses. Yeah, you know when this is like everyone's
Speaker 2: looking at you, what are you gonna do? He tries
Speaker 2: to work some type of finesse passwords. Move you're six seven,
Speaker 2: three forty. Drive his ass back, take advantage of that.
Speaker 2: Drive his ass back, and if you see he's holding
Speaker 2: up against that strength, that's when you use your hand moves.
Speaker 2: There's way too often where he stands up straight off
Speaker 2: the snap and throws a hand move right, throws a
Speaker 2: hand move without that forward lean when they were running
Speaker 2: half line run drills right, which again are made for
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman. The working combos just way too often
Speaker 2: the double teams controlled him where they were able to
Speaker 2: turn him the way they want. Dion Walker can be amazing.
Speaker 2: He can be a stud. He can be an all
Speaker 2: pro level player. You see the flashes. He needs to
Speaker 2: play with more fire in his ass to play stronger
Speaker 2: on a consistent base. Know what the deal is with
Speaker 2: coaching and whatever, but if you know one of these
Speaker 2: coaches getting like you are six foot seven, three hundred
Speaker 2: and forty, you are athletic, you are strong as shit.
Speaker 2: Power start every single thing you do firing off the
Speaker 2: ball low with power, and I just see way too
Speaker 2: much inconsistency. For a guy that I think should be
Speaker 2: who I think is good, but should be way better
Speaker 2: than what he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I unfortunately think that that consistency issue is
Speaker 4: something that goes through his film as well. I've only
Speaker 4: watched one game, so I don't want to make that.
Speaker 4: You know, Declaraty.
Speaker 2: We even talked about him in the way and when
Speaker 2: on our somewher of our summer draft stuff last year,
Speaker 2: and it was very similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you would hope that like a whole year,
Speaker 4: you know, that kind of thing would be cleaned up,
Speaker 4: But it is something that's of concern, And like I
Speaker 4: get it right, Like six foot seven three forty three
Speaker 4: fifty whatever he is. You look at him and it's
Speaker 4: like the first thing anyone says, we're sitting by people
Speaker 4: in the sands, So.
Speaker 3: Like that's a very large human being.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he's huge among huge people. But if you
Speaker 4: wanted to see consistency and and you know that size
Speaker 4: being to use, you only have to go one and
Speaker 4: shorter to look at Florida defensive lineman Cameron Jackson at
Speaker 4: sixty six three point fifty. You're getting pretty much the
Speaker 4: same package. But this is a guy who knows how
Speaker 4: to use his hands, knows how to use that power
Speaker 4: and that strength to his advantage.
Speaker 3: Trumpy kicked ass. Yeah, he kicked as he was a
Speaker 3: monster today. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: The other guy who I thought had the best day
Speaker 2: from the d line Omar and Norman Lott out of Tennessee.
Speaker 2: He was the winner of the day for me in
Speaker 2: a group that we came down here to see. We
Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit on our Talking Giants preview.
Speaker 2: He was a rotational player Tennessee. He had the seventh
Speaker 2: most snaps on that front floor, yet he was their
Speaker 2: second most pastor of productive past rus.
Speaker 3: He brought it.
Speaker 2: He lived in the back then rot eleven or eleven
Speaker 2: a little bit of good job timing up the snap.
Speaker 2: But we talked about it too. Guys, guys make plays
Speaker 2: timing up the snap and one on ones. She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's he's six foot one, two ninety five. He's winning
Speaker 2: with some all the nesse right, there's some of that. No,
Speaker 2: he's using his leverage. He probably has a natural leverage
Speaker 2: to him. He fires off the ball, he gets in
Speaker 2: guy's chess and he drives their ass back like he
Speaker 2: plays away. Fucking Dion Walker should Obviously he's not Dean
Speaker 2: Walker's not gonna have the natural leverage that he has.
Speaker 2: Didn't play as a full time we're in college, so
Speaker 2: it's like, what was going on there at Tennessee? Why
Speaker 2: did they not blame a little more? You know, we
Speaker 2: weren't focusing on him a ton in the run game,
Speaker 2: and Tennessee took him out a lot in the run game, right,
Speaker 2: And that's probably the reason why. But I thought he
Speaker 2: had a lot of juice as a pass rusher and
Speaker 2: was kind of like my under the radar guy coming
Speaker 2: in here, and I thought he I think his name
Speaker 2: was learned by more people today than anybody else, and
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 4: That we get to see more of him this week.
Speaker 4: We did see him walk into the tunnel a little
Speaker 4: bit early earlier week. Not done, but uh yeah, he
Speaker 4: was really impressive. Was somebody that was not at all
Speaker 4: on my radar. I did no pre work on him,
Speaker 4: and I come away, I want to watch a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of Tennessee film.
Speaker 2: Now, what do you guys think of Schama Shamar Stewart,
Speaker 2: who maybe like one of the highest rated guys down here.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that a lot of the expected guys
Speaker 4: looked very good.
Speaker 2: I thought we had the Chamar the exact Shamar Stewart
Speaker 2: experience that you see on film where you see the strength,
Speaker 2: you see pop, you don't see finish, and you see
Speaker 2: way too many times where you're like, you should have
Speaker 2: won that match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh here's I'll tell you. It's frustrating. But Shamar Stewart, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, save that thought. It's the you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it's the end of practice, like we talked about, and
Speaker 1: the end of practice is this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: like maybe like a viral moment, right, Like if you
Speaker 1: want to go viral here at the Senior Ball and
Speaker 1: you want to get fans talking about you do it
Speaker 1: at the end of practice when it's these one v
Speaker 1: one sessions. We're gonna manufacture this shit, right, that's what
Speaker 1: the coaches do. So Chamar Stork goes out there and
Speaker 1: what's what's the height in weight on this guy?
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's six five one pounds.
Speaker 1: And it's like, this is one of the strongest human beings.
Speaker 1: You know, you'll you'll see like this guy is the
Speaker 1: embodiment of strength of what you want out of an
Speaker 1: ad rusher. This is an interior guy. This is an
Speaker 1: ad rusher, right, what is his go to pass rush move?
Speaker 1: When the entire Senior Bowl world is watching him during
Speaker 1: these one v ones and inside spin, he tries to
Speaker 1: spin man and it's like, come.
Speaker 2: On, you are strong, yeah, and he had use that
Speaker 2: power if he's playing, if he's if he's taking on
Speaker 2: that strength, use your hands, get him off of you.
Speaker 3: Just kind of what you saw.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: There's there's some great plays out there that Shamar Stewart made,
Speaker 2: but there's also you know, Georgia Tech tight end Jackson Halls,
Speaker 2: who's a very good blocker, stonewalling him on a play
Speaker 2: action pass play.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So you just be dominant, right like he's That was
Speaker 2: my call call for Shamar Stewart, not for me to
Speaker 2: come away. It's impressed as you as a player overall,
Speaker 2: be dominant as someone who I think is going to
Speaker 2: be probably one of the most most polarizing players in
Speaker 2: the draft. I think there's gonna be people who have
Speaker 2: him as as a top ten to fifteen, and I
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be people who say he might be
Speaker 2: in the top fifty, right, and that's because of you know,
Speaker 2: the other players in the class as.
Speaker 4: Well, piggybacking off of what Justin was saying about the
Speaker 4: best versus best at the end, and and and not
Speaker 4: to belabor the point, but Dion Walker went up there
Speaker 4: was called and went, I believe against Alabama A and
Speaker 4: M tackle Carson Vincent and lost lost right then and there.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not trying to, you know, put
Speaker 4: Carson Vincent down, but like this is something where you
Speaker 4: would expect Deon Walker to win. Where Deon Walker lost,
Speaker 4: I want to say three to four times, was against
Speaker 4: someone who I think is going to be a fan
Speaker 4: favorite by the end of this week, and that's undersized
Speaker 4: center from UNC Willie Lampkin at any five at five
Speaker 4: to ten Stonewall Dean Walker. I counted three times, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was on the far side of the field, so
Speaker 3: we didn't have.
Speaker 4: The greatest vantage point on some numbers and stuff with
Speaker 4: pull jerseys. But yeah, just just lost every single rep
Speaker 4: against a five to ten center who's a late addition here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's other guys that maybe we could talk about,
Speaker 2: but we're about twenty three minutes now. I want to
Speaker 2: kind of tease tomorrow A little bit, but justin we
Speaker 2: didn't spend many time much time talking about cornerbacks or
Speaker 2: wide receivers in this day. Who is the wide receiver
Speaker 2: on the American team that impressed you the most?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's ty Felton. And to kind of
Speaker 1: just put it simply, he got open. You know, you
Speaker 1: would all of our attentions were on the old line
Speaker 1: D line today, But then you would poke your head
Speaker 1: over and it's like, oh, well look at that number
Speaker 1: ten just running into the end zone with no quarterback
Speaker 1: trail on. That's and that's ty Felton, and that that
Speaker 1: didn't really necessarily happen a ton today. I was a
Speaker 1: guy that created a lot of separation pre senior ball,
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to pull up his measurables at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. But I have him six two, one eighty six.
Speaker 2: He's still measuring six foot so they lined up a
Speaker 2: little bit on his roster.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, So well he's still.
Speaker 2: Like he's I think he's a I think he's a
Speaker 2: solid player in the NFL. Right, I came in with
Speaker 2: some film on him. I'm confident he's gonna be a
Speaker 2: solid wide receiver in the NFL and all today.
Speaker 1: Out of all Senior Bowl wide receivers, the lead college
Speaker 1: in u in catches at ninety six with almost a
Speaker 1: seventy percent catchway over one thousand yards and a yards
Speaker 1: for a route run at two point three two, which
Speaker 1: basically if you're above two and a quarter to me,
Speaker 1: that's pretty solid up the college level. So and he
Speaker 1: had six point one yards after the catch per reception
Speaker 1: two with a drop rate under ten percent. So kind
Speaker 1: of crossing all those thresholds and crossing all those check marks.
Speaker 1: And he was open a ton today, and especially for
Speaker 1: the American offense, where hey, you got better quarterbacks throwing
Speaker 1: near the ball, maybe those receivers are expecting to get
Speaker 1: open a little bit.
Speaker 2: Ty Felton led the led the pack today. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: a Tie Felton fan in this draft. I don't know
Speaker 2: how much he'll rise. I think he's someone I'm going
Speaker 2: on through the whole process. He was there, And then,
Speaker 2: like I said, we'll focus a little bit more on
Speaker 2: wide receivers and dbs tomorrow. Yeah, but I thought Trey
Speaker 2: Amos from Ole Miss did a good job. Maxwell Harriston
Speaker 2: from Kentucky it's probably the best right here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then even mac mcmill in. The cornerback from uc
Speaker 2: UCF on.
Speaker 1: The national team. Quincy Riley did have the best play today.
Speaker 1: There was a receiver on the sideline where I mean
Speaker 1: he keeps it right and phase with them, you know,
Speaker 1: has playing sticky with them in coverage, does a nice
Speaker 1: job not getting too handsy, and then once the ball's
Speaker 1: in the air and the balls approaching, that's when he
Speaker 1: gets his head around. He makes a play on the
Speaker 1: football as the ball's arriving. I mean, it was kind
Speaker 1: of just a teach tape toe to speak. So Quincy
Speaker 1: Riley out of Louisville with the nice play on the
Speaker 1: ball moment in one v one's today.
Speaker 4: I had one more from the American side that I'm
Speaker 4: excited to watch tomorrow. Focus on to his corner from Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Billy Bowman had a really good recovery undercut one v
Speaker 4: one on an outbreaking route towards the sideline, undercut it
Speaker 4: and came up with a pick. I believe it was
Speaker 4: right along the line, so I'm not sure if he
Speaker 4: got both feed in, but great recovery. It was an
Speaker 4: exciting play. I'm excited to focus in on them tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Though absolutely all.
Speaker 3: Right, anything else? I mean, I we're good.
Speaker 1: We're good, okay, because I feel like there's there's players,
Speaker 1: there's things we gotta we gotta talk about.
Speaker 2: Got two more days. Tease the people?
Speaker 3: Rap well? Can I do? Can we do? Rapid fire? Grump?
Speaker 3: Do you have any of the players do you want
Speaker 3: to mention?
Speaker 4: Defensive lineman from Virginia Techanias Peebles had only six f
Speaker 4: two and eighty nine pounds, had some really good burstens inside.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch.
Speaker 1: Him eleven on eleven he had a nice run stop today.
Speaker 1: Uh Jamari calledwell from Oregon. I think he has to
Speaker 1: be Maybe Cam Jackson gives him a run for his
Speaker 1: money from Florida, but at least on the national side
Speaker 1: side called well from Oregon. In tier defensive linement weighed
Speaker 1: in at three hundred and forty two pounds. Looks like
Speaker 1: the biggest guy here, but he he plays fast, he
Speaker 1: plays strong, he's physical. He's gonna be fun to watch
Speaker 1: all week. This is dangerous at the end of the
Speaker 1: show to want to pronounce.
Speaker 2: The UCLA has a lot of tough pronunciations here every year.
Speaker 1: Olibill Fami Ola Dejo from u C L a the
Speaker 1: edge rusher. He played with a lot of energy today.
Speaker 1: Excited to watch him and I think that's it. And
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan's somebody to keep an eye on as the
Speaker 1: as the days go on too. I don't think he
Speaker 1: falls in that category of like, you know, like we
Speaker 1: talked about the guy from Kentucky, Dion Walker, where it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: well you're really ranked high, you're supposed to dominate, you
Speaker 1: gotta kick ass. Walter Nolan was kind of like on
Speaker 1: that border. He had some good plays, but definitely a
Speaker 1: guy with where you're ranked and how dominant your tape is,
Speaker 1: go out there and dominate even more.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what I got wanted to do, rapid fire. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap us up. That is our Day one
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl coverage. It is our recap. We will see
Speaker 1: you day two. And for your Dan Patrick people, we're
Speaker 1: on YouTube. We're on our own podcast feed as well.
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Speaker 1: day two, Day three. Thank you to Corona for sending
Speaker 1: us here. We will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Peace. Thanks for watching.