1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit radio phonic 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: novella Look at a Radio hosted by malamo Ala locomotives. 3 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to look at the Radio. This is Mala 4 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and this is Theosa and we're last local and of 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: course we're recording um here at Radio Espascio where we 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: always record look at our radio. Thank you for joining 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: us once again for another thank you for tuning in. 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Look at that our radio is a radio phonic novella. 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Are having the brilliant legacies and geniuses of women and 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: fems of color? Yes, yes we are, Yes, so happy 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: to be here, Happy February. I feel like it's been 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: so long since we last recorded. Yes, we kind of 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: just like put out three caplos in like a span 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: of a week, and then we're like, okay, were we 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta travel to Oregon. Oh and did we travel? Yes, 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: we did, we traveled. Yes. So the January February two, 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: we were in Oregon. UM the University of Oregon MITSCHA 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: and the Multicultural Center and the Uo mo hit Is 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Organization invited us out to do a workshop to workshops 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: and a keynote, and we have so much to say 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: it was really fun. Also, can I just say, elephant 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: in the room. We're recording for YouTube now, and I 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: think we're still adjusting. We are still adjusted because it's 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: like the cameras like having a third look here, like 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: our third member that were still getting used to. Oh god, 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: hey everyone, hey everybody. So no, we went to Oregon. 27 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: We were in Eugene, um, which it was my first 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: time in Oregon. I've never been to Oregon before. Um, 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: and I thought it was beautiful, so green, the air 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: was so clean. Yeah, we're so cold. We were like, 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: let's clean out our lens. Let's get this l a 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: small residue, you know, the l a grime because LA 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: can be very grimy. Yeah. Um. And so first we 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: got there and of course the students picked us up. 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: They took us to our hotel and they got us 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: a really nice hotel. You know. Um, we hung out. Yeah, 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: it was basically like a little mini look at that 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: retreat because we honestly, we didn't have time to really 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: do any sight seeing and to go around Eugene unfortunately. 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: But you know, we got a lot of work done 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: while we were there. We were still working, taking conference 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: calls and doing all that good stuff that we like 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: to do. So we were still working and then of 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: course prepping and doing all of our work for the 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: conference and the workshop. So but it was amazing, It 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: was great. We had a really great time. We did 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: our Goddess Worship workshop with the Uomo hitters and other 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: students that were there, so hopefully we gained some new 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: listeners and shout out to our look a moot is 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: they were there, such as Vedo, Maria and Edith Yomeda 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: fabulous people and all the other more hits that were amazing. 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: It was amazing to meet Aliya. It was cool to 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: be around like the students. It was I felt so nostalled, 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: like so nostalgic about my own undergrad years. And one 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: thing that I really loved was and this cato is 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: all about love if this is our OO episode, you know, 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: And I could really feel the love there on campus, 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: not just for like you know, the podcast and everything, 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: but like for the community. Yes, there was a big 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: sense of community there with them. With the students we met, 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: the Yuo Mohadist students that we met the Multicultural Center, 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Like at one point the girls had us over to 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: one of their apartments and like it was a bunch 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: of the students there. We just were all hanging out 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and talking and we ended up dancing at the end 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: and it was really fun and like I miss having 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: all of my home girls in one spot, right, That's 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: what we were saying, Like when you're on you're doing 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: your undergrad like you're never in that not close proximity 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: to your friends like ever again, Um afterwards, you know, 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: after you graduated and move away, so it was super graded. 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I agree with Mama, like definitely nostalgic. There's so many 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: things I would have done differently during my undergrad and 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: like now obviously being out and like having this different 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: sense of community. I would have done so much differently. 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: So myself, for example, what would you have done differently 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: if you had to do undergrad over again? Oh um, 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: I would have changed my major. I would have started 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: to broad longer. I probably would have. Um, there's I mean, 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, my relationships I think affected 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot of my undergrad So I would have done 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: so much differently. So it's nice to see the way 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: these Mohadas have really built their community. Beautiful community, beautiful community, 84 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: and it just seems like they really take care of 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: each other and are just willing to learn together, grow together, 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: and then bring speakers out because we heard about some 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: future speakers that they're trying to bring. We can't say anything, 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: but you know, it's really great to see the Mohad 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: is doing the work that needs to be done, you 90 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: know what campus and let me just say, and it 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: was not lost on us Between Mitscha and of course 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: the conference friends. The fifteenth Annual is the reason why 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Mitscha of University of Oregon flew us out there because 94 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: we gave a keynote for the youth conference, right, and 95 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: the theme was so we wrote this really great keynote. 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it was really great. It was real good. Um. Yeah, 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: we can't lie. And you know, we really brought this 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: theme of like, you know, planting your seeds and blooming 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and growing and you know having to you know, pluck 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the weeds and not block anyone's sunshine and not block 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: their growth, right, and really talking about that in the 102 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: sense of um, when you're in a community that was 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: multiple needs, right, layered needs, layered needs, it takes many 104 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: many seeds right for a successful harvest. It's never never 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: just one seed, right, Um. So yeah, all those themes. 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: We're not going to give it the whole thing away. 107 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: You had to be there, you had to be there, 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: had to be there. Um. And then I also want 109 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: to shout out because what we did to tell them 110 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: about the Latino Tech in short of podcast workshop we 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: did that one was so fun. So we had done 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: sort of like a podcasting workshop at u c l 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: A for one of Silky shout out, Hey, I know 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: you're watching one of our favorite fans anyways. Um, So 115 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: Silky is a genius and is this brilliant professor and 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: she had a class at u c l A. And 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: we came and what department was it was chi Study, 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: So for Chikana Chikano Studies class, we went as the 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: podcast and we talked about podcasting. We took that same 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: workshop and we sort of developed it for high schoolers 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: and middle schoolers and we called it Latin x Tech 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: and basically we had them, um break off into groups, 123 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: the students and build their own podcasts from the ground up, 124 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: from like having a name, to a logo to a 125 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: hashtag you know, um, you know all that stuff the 126 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: stuff that we've put together our podcast. So we're really fun. 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: We did um, of course we'd laid the foundation, and 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: we talked about like our our development and what we've 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: done and what's work and what what we've had to 130 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: improve and all those things. And also at the workshop 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: up there were two more hitters from Portland's that drove 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: and their local motives. I want to shout out Filly 133 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: and Roso they were so fun. So they took us 134 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: to get drinks afterwards, and then we spent the whole 135 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: afternoon with them at before we flew back to l A. 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: So it was super great to meet them. We have 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: the best logan. What it we really do? Our listeners 138 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: are so fun, are so much fun? Oh my god, Yes, 139 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: our listeners are so hopefully will be in Oregon again, 140 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: that would be great. I think we will be. Yeah 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: we might. Maybe we'll spend a little bit more time, 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, to play a day of leisure. Yes 143 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: if you will, yes, if you must. You know. Yeah. 144 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: So that was our our time in Oregon. It was 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: super great. And then you know, we came back and 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, back to work. Yes, here we are, and 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: here we are, and here we are I think with 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: we're going to jump into one of our segment ready mama. 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: All right. So yeah, locas, we got this listener question 150 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: a few a few weeks ago, a few months ago. 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I hope you're listening more. This is such a great question. 152 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: UM definitely hit home for me, So I'm gonna go 153 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: ahead and ask it. Um. Okay, I'm a bisexual Mexicana 154 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and my dad has a hard time with me dating women. 155 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm currently dating a guy and no I'm a bit Oh. 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I get the sense that my dad is quote relieved. 157 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: This bugs me for some reason, and I'm not sure why, 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: because although my dad had a hard time with me 159 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: dating women, he didn't quote disown me or anything and 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: said he loves me regardless. Have either of y'all experienced this. 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: You can take this one away. You can you can 162 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: take this one away. This is relevant. Okay, girl, I 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: feel like you are reading my life tbh. Um, I 164 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: actually feel this way, and I think this was um. 165 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, not to get too deep, but I feel 166 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: like this was It was a really hard. It was 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: really hard for me to um move away from my 168 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: lesbian identity into my queer identity because I felt because 169 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm so firm, the people weren't gonna understand that I'm 170 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: queer or pan sexual or bisexual. It was more like, oh, yes, 171 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: see her phase is over. Yes, So I really struggled 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: with fairness, was exactly I've really struggled with being okay 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: with dating men um And the same thing. I feel 174 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: like my father was never like outwardly homophobic with me. Um. 175 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: I think it was more subtle, like he wouldn't necessarily 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge my partners as my partners friends favorite friends, and 177 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: he would never say their names. He would say la 178 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: things like that, very coded, coded things. And now I 179 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: feel like I wouldn't say he's happy that I'm dating 180 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: a man, because I don't know if any fathers ever 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: really happy. But you're you're dating right, right? And like 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: when I don't come home, he knows where I'm mad happy, 183 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, favorite? Right? Right? So I mean, yes, okay, 184 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: So I have either of us experienced that, I mean, yes, definitely, 185 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: And I think your feelings are valid, especially you know. 186 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Oh and this is what I had this discussion with 187 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: my mom recently actually, because she was like, well, how 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: does you know your your boo feel about you identifying 189 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: as queer? And I'm like, um, well, he wouldn't be 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: with me he was right, and I had to have yeah, 191 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and I had to have that discussion, and I was like, 192 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: just because I'm dating a man now, it doesn't make 193 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: me and he was queer. Let's start there, right, Let's 194 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: be clear, yes, right, yes, there are certain privileges when 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: you're in a perceived heterosexual relationship, but it doesn't negate 196 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: your queerness, right, So I think that that's really important. 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: And I just want to say, if you're listening, your 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: feelings are totally valid, and I feel you boo, and 199 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: just keep doing you. And you know what's interesting is 200 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: like your parents, like you're saying, your parents are never 201 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: really happy about whoever you're dating, or one parent might 202 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: be happy, the other one is not right, And I 203 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: think it's interesting too, Like your parents will tolerate your 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: partner until your partner is no longer your partner, when 205 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: there's a breakup, another gone, and then all of a sudden, 206 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: you here from everybody in the family. Well, we didn't 207 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: really like them that much anyway. Over a girl. We 208 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: don't want to tell you, but here's the t I 209 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: had a friend who lives in New York City who 210 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know me and me and your mom Zoe. 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, me and your mom kind of agreed. We 212 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't think that that person was the one for you. 213 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I find out that my friends 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: and my mother were all communicating behind my back, you 215 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just funny, like, but 216 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I think, you know, we can only 217 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: push our parents so far, and sometimes I'm just grateful 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: even for just silent Tacit just acceptance, yes, you know, 219 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to outright like yeah, you know, I don't 220 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: like it. Stop that, get out of my house right, well, 221 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean. Yeah, And I did date somebody briefly 222 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: that my father was so unhappy. Oh yeah, I remember 223 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: that and that and that was some outward like I'm 224 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: not talking to you kind of ship and like I'm 225 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: not gonna fucking I'm not going to talk to you 226 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: until you decide that, you know, this relationship is over. 227 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: That's some more that was, and same thing in real ways. Everybody, 228 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: all my family was warning me and was like, don't 229 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: do this, don't do this, don't dates that one. Yeah, 230 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: And I was like and then at that point I 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: was like, I was like speaking of my dad's calling 232 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it right there. Yeah, father, Poppy, not daddy. There's a 233 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: different there's a difference, there's a different Oh my god, 234 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: that's hilarious. All right, goodness. So yeah, so there's your answer. 235 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: There's your there's our answer to your question, and that's 236 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: thank you. And always submit questions to a Curious Cat. Yes, 237 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: please keep submitting on the Curious Cat dot Com slash 238 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: dash radio, underscore, underscore, let me, let's love, let me 239 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: look it up. Yeah, m hm, oh yeah, keep submitting questions. 240 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: We love reading these questions. We have a few like 241 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: that we're going to answer in the next few laws. 242 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: But it's always good to have new ones, especially if 243 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: if if they go more on theme with what we're 244 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: talking about. That say, yeah, Curious Cat dot me slash 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: underscore radio, send us questions, send us questions. We prefer 246 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: the Curious Cat me over the d M to be honestly, 247 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: because this is a one place that we can just 248 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: really keep up with where just specifically the questions. We're 249 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: trying to stay organized. We're trying to stay organized. Yes, 250 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you ask us questions. We're pretty open, Yeah, 251 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think we're pretty honest about 252 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: stuff when people ask us questions, we answer them. Yeah, yeah, 253 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: so okay, so more into our topic. So what does 254 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: that come to when when you hear that phrase? I'm 255 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: probably what does it bring to mind for you? Like, 256 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: what are your immediate references I think of? I'm going 257 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: I think of painful love? Yeah, the best kind I 258 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: think of, like the love that has you up at night, right, 259 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: because something is keeping you from being with that person, 260 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: whether it be your parents, society, whatever it is, whoever knows, 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: whomever it may be. There's always something in the way 262 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: right right, whether that be distance, right, whether it be 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: your own emotional unavailability, another person's emotional unavailability yes yes, 264 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: or just even knowing that the person is not the 265 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: one for you but still wanting to, you know, see 266 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: see how this person is going to you know, play 267 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: out in your life, or what the relationship is going 268 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to teach you even though you know it's not the relationship, 269 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: but you want the experience. Anyways, Sometimes sometimes I feel 270 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: like I don't mind, you know, when a person is 271 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: not your life partner. For sure, there are those people 272 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: right that you meet them and wherever you meet them, 273 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: whether that's when you're out, you're in school, you know, whatever, 274 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: here here, there, here, whatever, um and you know, like, Okay, 275 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: this person is going to be a lot of fun 276 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: or this person is a little bit of trouble and 277 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm down. But I know what I'm getting and I 278 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm not going to get. I know that 279 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: this has an expiration day. And even though I'm going 280 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: to fight it, yes, eventually some ship is going to 281 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: blow up in. This person's going to be out of 282 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, even when you know, because the universe, God, Shiva, whoever, 283 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: is sending you a million signs to keep this person 284 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: away from you, like I don't I don't know her, 285 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know her, I don't see suddenly I can't see. 286 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to ignore all the signs and I'm gonna 287 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: seek out this person that I know is bad for me. 288 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: That's gonna send me into a very dramatic life spiral. 289 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Spiral I was gonna say, but I want it. I 290 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: hearn for it, and make me cut off all these 291 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: people that are connected to them. Right, why don't we 292 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: do that? I don't know, because you're horrible. That's that's 293 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and I've always known that about myself. You know, you 294 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: just have to be honest, like I like to create 295 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: drama for myself. Do you know? I think at this 296 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: point in my life my self love is not getting 297 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: into dramatic relationships. That's how I'm going to practice that. 298 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: At this point in my life. My my current partner 299 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: is like, no drama. And sometimes I find myself getting 300 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: in these like self sabotaged ways of being like, Okay, 301 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: well where is the drama? Like how come you know 302 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: the needle the pin hasn't dropped right, how come the 303 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: shoe hasn't fallen off? I'm like, what's going on? I'm 304 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: like going hold on? And then my book has to 305 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: be like it takes things for what they are, like 306 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: let them be, go ahead, And I'm just like, oh, okay, 307 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: you're right, trust trust the car, right, yeah, embrace the calm. Right. 308 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: Maybe there's not a storm coming, Yeah there might not be. Yes. 309 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: That being said, let's giving to our song break your 310 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: song break or Cara, belly rostra and and and and 311 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 312 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and belly rock 313 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: and and and then bell rang and and and and 314 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: and and and um from from from um um from 315 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: from Umm, from of it and ship and we're back 316 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: part in US, part in US. So so Valentine's Day 317 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: is coming up. Valentine's Day is coming up, and we 318 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: are hosting in events with Yao and not A call 319 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: her publisher and it's gonna it's called la It's going 320 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: to be at the at the l A Theater Company, 321 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I think Los Angeles Theater Center and in springing Spring 322 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Streets l A. UM tickets are still available, almost sold 323 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: out though they're twenty five dollars. Starts at seven thirty. 324 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: There's a bar we're hosting. Like we said, UM, super 325 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: super excited. There's gonna be another a few other poets 326 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: that are performing along with YESSICAA is going to be 327 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: performing and then we're going to do a Q and 328 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: A after so we're gonna be facilitating that. We love fancying. 329 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: We love posting. We really do. Yeah. It's a good time. Yeah. 330 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: So you know, talking about Valentine's Day, UM, throwback to 331 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: what do we do last year? For it was a 332 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: hot ass ratchet as mess. We were each other's Valentine's. 333 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: We were it was a Gallantine's. It really was. It 334 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. It was super super sweet. 335 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: We um, we were supposed to go out to a 336 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: nice dinner and ended up ordering Papa John's. We had 337 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: pizza and we just you know, got drunk and turned 338 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: at Mama's place. Yeah. Well, first of all, we met 339 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: at my place, and my apartment is very small, so 340 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: it was like how many girls? It was the Mummy 341 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: collective Melissa and and I feel like she had a 342 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: friend there, did she? I don't remember, but I think 343 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: it was just about okay anyway, So it was like 344 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: what like six or seven six whatever, those numbers had 345 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: up to seven women. Um, and so we were drinking 346 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: Henny obviously honey and pineapple and other things. I was 347 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: drinking champagne, champagne. We were drinking Henny and pineapple out 348 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: of champagne flute, right, which is what I like to do, right, 349 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: I like to drink out of champa. So anyways, um, 350 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: we're leaving right, and we were going to the short 351 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: stop on sunset and freaking the light you know, Okay, 352 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: when you go to a new person's house, like you 353 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: don't always know like where the steps, where are the lights, 354 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: where the corners? What do you look out for? Like 355 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: you're not aware of the space. And it was dark 356 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and you know, my house is a little bit it's 357 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: a little bit old, a little bit ratchet sometimes, and 358 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: like our lights are not not everything is lit, and 359 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: some of the lights are late, and some of the 360 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: lights are in weird places. And so poor Marisa, she 361 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: didn't see this step. The light comes off way late, 362 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: and maritsa falls and fox up her ankle and while 363 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: she's on the floor, and I'm like, oh my god. 364 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: But then the light comes on, so we can see 365 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: our predicament. But we couldn't avoid it. And she was limping, limping, 366 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: she limped into the uber, but she was a fucking 367 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: trooper and she rallied and she limped all the way 368 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: into the short stop and up to the bar. Girl. Yes, literally, 369 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: I think we just to care of her the night, 370 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: bout her drinks. Yeah, like you know, had her seated, 371 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: we're sitting with her, and her was elevated. We were 372 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: single host that year, All of us were single at 373 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: the same time. Could you imagine, girl, nobody stand a chance. 374 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: It was terrible and nobody nobody was safe. No, not 375 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: even us. We weren't even safe, right, So, yes, that 376 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: was Valentine's Day last year. But it was fun. It 377 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: was a nice Galantine's It was a lot of fun. 378 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: Um much has changed changed. It's still Galantine's Day for me. 379 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah you have a boo. I have a boo. But 380 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: you know he's not like a Valentine's Day person. Yeah yeah, yeah. 381 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: So I checked with him before I booked the event obviously, 382 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: like hey, like, you know we're going to host this event, 383 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: Like I just want to check in, like are we 384 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: going to do anything that say, do we have plans? 385 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: Where you planning something? And if he doesn't like to 386 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: plan anything, so he was like, we can do something 387 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: on the weekend, like do you And I was like okay, 388 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: perfect Um. That was the answer I wanted to Right, 389 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: you got what you were like, got what I was 390 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: looking for. And it was funny because throwback, um we 391 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: I was telling MoMA actually that after our Valentine's Day 392 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: the morning after waking up, he had actually started following 393 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: me on Instagram current boo. So I was like, full circle. 394 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: Would you look at that? Right, that's so funny. I know, 395 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: how cute? Did you post a photo that Valentine? I did? 396 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: I was looking hell of fine and he liked it. 397 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: He did like he did like it. He took the bait. 398 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: He did. He took the bait the bait, right. I 399 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: love putting some bait out there and you just know 400 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: that they're going to bite, and then when they bite, 401 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: you're like, yep, you're like on time. I knew what 402 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I was doing. I knew what I was doing. We 403 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: always know what we're doing. It's true. We do even 404 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: when we're not thinking about it. It's like, oh wait, 405 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing all along. I got 406 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: my desired result, even if I didn't know that I 407 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: desired that result. Right, I got what I wanted. It 408 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: worked out. We're good exactly exactly that. That's that's the best. Yes, 409 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: So okay, going on theme right, talking about moo um 410 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Mama brought up an interesting point about self love. Yeah, 411 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: so self love in its own way, isn't why so 412 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: so often right, like especially women, um and I would 413 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: say most especially also like queer men, to be really 414 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: into yourself and to love yourself and want to take 415 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: pictures of yourself and spend time on your makeup and 416 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: your hair. We're always called conceited and we're always like 417 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: talked down on for that, you know, And we're self 418 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: centered and we're narcissistic, and we're shallow. People love saying 419 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: that women are shallow and girls are shallows. A shallow 420 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: friends are shallow, frivolous. I'm like, that is our love 421 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: language for ourselves, is to spend time on ourselves and 422 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: to look at ourselves because this performance is not just 423 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: for the outside world. We perform for ourselves. If femininity 424 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: in many ways is performance, right, and like, okay, to 425 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: quote Brittany, there are those of us that do the 426 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: entertaining and then others who are watching for me, since 427 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: we can establish femininity as performance in many ways right, 428 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: we are performers, but we also perform for ourselves and 429 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: then everybody else they're watching, they're the audience, right, and 430 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: sometimes the audience needs to sit back and shut the 431 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: funk up and let the show continue, you know what 432 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean. So for me, that's what I think of 433 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: what I think of self love, Like we're not supposed 434 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: to love ourselves because then we're shallow, we're self centered, 435 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: but we do this for ourselves absolutely absolutely so in 436 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: its own way, it isn't right because we're not allowed 437 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: to do it. We're not allowed to outwardly do it. 438 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: We're not allowed to talk about it. We're not allowed 439 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: to post too many selfies, right, We're not allowed to 440 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: take the time for ourselves that you know, we need 441 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: um establish our boundaries, say no to people, right, those 442 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: are the things that we're not allowed to do, especially 443 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: as women and fems. Yes, especially um. And then you know, 444 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: obviously there are different types of like there are certain 445 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: types of loves, loves that are always going to be 446 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: like forbidden, right, So whether that's because of race, class, gender, 447 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: like people always find a reason to problematize a romantic 448 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: encounter or unless it's like sis head inside of marriage, 449 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: everything else is fucked up, and that honestly excludes most 450 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: types of love, right, Yeah, Yeah, I feel like, um, 451 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: by default, all of my relationships have been like amoro 452 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: because of the queerness, right, with the exception of my 453 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: current one. But you know, all my past relationships have 454 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: been ado because because of the queerness and um, whether 455 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: that be like from society or any type of like 456 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: internalized homophobia or internal misogyny like that mask energy even 457 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: like queer folks, queer women all that ship. Yeah, and 458 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: I feel like the theme of is so common, like 459 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: in music so much Mighty Achi, Lost Love forbidden love. 460 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: Fucking yes, sucking the Vicenti fans came for her, Yes, yes, yes, 461 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: hey girl, I know you're watching um much love. Yesica 462 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: had tweeted out the other day, Um about how Fernandez 463 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: that iconic song every mexicanald's, every latinos favorite song, right, 464 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: they all sing it about themselves, right. Um, She's like, 465 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate funck boy anthem, you know, because he's 466 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: talking about like I'm broke, I got no power, I 467 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: got no influence, and nobody listens to me. Why the 468 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: funk would I? Why are you cry? You know? Um? 469 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, so like, um, I also feel like in 470 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: so many novellas is just a constant theme totally. I 471 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: mean that's what makes it so traumatic, right, Like how 472 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: we said in the first half of the right we 473 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: want we want the trauma, right we were We've grown 474 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: up with all that drama, right, so we're like, okay, 475 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the only way to be in a relationship, right, 476 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: all this drama. Right, But um, I mean so okay, 477 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: So we see the novelas right, classic of course and Selena, 478 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Um that is just like the anthem yeah, and forbidden 479 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: love in that song she's talking about you know, almost 480 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's almost the defendite this classes. So it's 481 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: like I am imagining. I'm wondering, like in the song right, 482 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: like what is her position? Is she the one that's 483 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: not good enough? Or she the princess that's too good 484 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: and he's not good enough for her? I don't think 485 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: we really know, because even in the video, right, she's 486 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: is there another? Is there a person in the video? 487 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: Doesn't she gets stood up? Isn't Is that the one 488 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: where she's out and she's wearing the T shirt, the 489 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: striped T shirt and the jeans and she has the 490 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: long but the road with the road, I'm getting my 491 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: references next time. I'm like, for me those when she's 492 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: out in the desert and there's like the doors at 493 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the door, she's wearing that beautiful like red tie like outfit. Um, yes, 494 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: is there a man? Is there a man? I don't remember. No, 495 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: she's wearing the white yeah, but she's also wearing red 496 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: in a part of the video. Yeah, see she stands alone. 497 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: Who knows? See, So it could be like right, um, 498 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: like I've had family basically tell me like, oh, well, 499 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: we don't like such and such because we don't think 500 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: that they're good enough whatever that means. Who's heard that before? 501 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: No one's good enough, No one's good enough, No one's 502 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: good enough. I guess my grandma. I wasn't here when 503 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: this happened, but my mom told me that my grandma Natcha, 504 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: they were watching TV and they were talking about, you know, 505 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the Prince and Megan Marco, and my grandma was like, 506 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: so he met her in l A. And where were 507 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: my granddaughters when the Prince was here? Where were they? 508 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: What were they doing? Being hosed? Wasting? Sorry? Sorry I 509 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: missed the Prince. I missed the Prince. I missed the Prince. 510 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I was over here being sucking occupied by all these 511 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: fucking trolls dudes out here instead of meeting the Prince. 512 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: That's what I was wasting my time. I was wasting 513 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: my time. That's definitely what happened. Anyways, funny, okay, funny, 514 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: So music, Um, movies? Did we talk about movies? I 515 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: mean the basis the basis for all this ship so 516 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: much is you know the Romeo and Juliet right, that's 517 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: like the continued um, Yeah, what is it? Winto theme 518 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: and it reoccurs? What is it called trope. No, it's 519 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: there's something else. It's like a motif. It's a motif. 520 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Don't know that the trope Now, I don't know anyway, well, 521 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: that the recurrent, the literary device, one of those things 522 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: in literary device, this that they hammered into us, like 523 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: our entire education, but we can't remember. I would even say, 524 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I would even say, I wonder how much is the 525 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: story of Adam and Eve even and just like from 526 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: the fucking jump. First of all, it's so brutal the 527 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: way that the Bible imagines like men and women like 528 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: taking his rib out, Like what the fuck? Why? It's 529 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: so grotesque? Right? And then there I don't even know 530 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: are they even in love or they're just put together, 531 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: put together, you know, just put together. There's no Yeah, 532 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: And I do not believe, right, because what's the story 533 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: that that the snake spoke to Eve? Right? And then 534 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: she went and was like here, try this apple. I 535 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: don't believe it for a second. I don't believe it. 536 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. They did. I wronged, was framed. 537 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I would a favorite on the Sinking College about how 538 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Eve was framed. Eve was framed, y'all, and she did 539 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: it because she was a writer or die. We don't 540 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: need to be writer or die. We don't need to 541 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: be right or die. She was a down ass bitch. 542 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: And I think that she was framed. I think that 543 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: that that they put all the blame for this ship 544 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: on the woman, of course, right, of course, So that 545 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: just laid the foundation for patriarchy of hosogy because women 546 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: ruined society exactly that they ruined the garden of Eden. 547 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: Look at pistemologies. That's a survivor narrative. I don't believe 548 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: that you did it. She was framed. She was framed. Um. Okay, 549 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: so um, okay, tell me this is too personal? Okay, yeah, yeah, 550 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: what is it? Um? Can you give me a personal 551 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: example of oh my god, a little or small? Well 552 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: how much time do we have? Girl? No? You know, 553 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: I um once dated somebody who lives in a different country. 554 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: And I haven't shared this like on the podcast, and 555 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: I haven't shared this on the internet really, um, but 556 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I once stated someone who lived in another country and 557 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: this country was Cuba before before the embargo was lifted. Um, 558 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: And it was a few years ago, and I like 559 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: used to fly myself like by myself. This isn't my 560 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: early twenties, I was like love for love. Between the 561 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: ages of twenty and twenty two, I traveled to Cuba 562 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: by myself at least three times, and I had like 563 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: a Mexican travel agent who was based in Caffoon, who 564 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: like would buy me my tickets and I would Western 565 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Union in money, and then I was like, you were 566 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: doing the girl listen number one and I would fly 567 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: into Kunggoon and then sneak into Cuba. But nothing bad 568 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: ever happened to me. That's good. I'm glad you were 569 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: able to do that. I mean, something bad did happen, 570 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: and that's why the relationship. But it was him, it wasn't. 571 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't my travels. It wasn't. I wasn't in trouble 572 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: on like an international level. It was an inner personal 573 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: of Krable, you know. Um. So that was definitely like 574 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: an Amota Probibi. Though I would say, um, you had 575 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: like travel restrictions on you girls at Hella, travel restrictions 576 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: like my passport could not get stamped, like I had 577 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: to have the stamp somewhere else. It was a whole 578 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: fucking thing. But I never got in trouble. Um, And 579 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: I hope that me talking about this publicly, I'm not 580 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: going to get in trouble now if the Feds get me. 581 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: This is why I know that there's lots and for me, like, 582 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I haven't really unpacked that relationship and what it means 583 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: to like obviously be an American, like dating somebody who 584 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: lives in a Cuba in Havana or dating someone who lives, 585 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, in Latin America. Obviously there's a lot of 586 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot there as far as para dynamics and 587 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: this and that and this and that and this and that. 588 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: I was Hella Young had to be honest, Um, I 589 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: was in it for two years, you know what I'm saying. 590 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: So I will talk more about it one day when 591 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I can really process it because I'm still like just 592 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: so shocked that I did that. I did it. I 593 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: did it and I'm alive. So anyways, how about you, 594 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: You're I mean, you have you shared a little bit, 595 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: but an example for you about and I'm probably be 596 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: the one in your life right Okay. So I don't 597 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: want to get too deep into my past because this 598 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: is raw, you guys, this is real. Ship for us. 599 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Refused to talk about past relationships very fair or do 600 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: it very vaguely. So I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna pull 601 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: from a fun example and say that current Boo and 602 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: I when we were dating, we worked together, So I 603 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of an amunto, right, because we don't want anybody 604 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: to know already there were people that work that they 605 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: didn't funk with me, they didn't like me, right, shout 606 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: out to. So I was like, here comes with the osa, 607 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: right dating the cute new guy who everybody has a 608 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: crush on. How many men were there at the office, 609 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, before him? I would say, there's a hand 610 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: there were. There were a handful, maybe five, right, Um, 611 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them. I think maybe 612 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: a few of them were like single or available, but 613 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: they weren't like the ones that you would date, you know. 614 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: So well the and there there comes you know, now 615 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: my my partner, right, And I was like, had my 616 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: eye on him, and I was like, what was it 617 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: that caught your eye? Oh, he's tell fine, he has 618 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: a beautiful beard, and you know it connects. Um. He 619 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: takes really great care of himself and it shows he 620 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, practices all his self care and does things 621 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: for himself. You know he's all about the maintenance, blah 622 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: blah blah. So I would say that you know, dating someone, 623 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: were you dating someone that you work with, right, and 624 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: not wanting it to be obvious in the office also 625 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: gives it its own like rush, right when you're like 626 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: exchanging glances and you're texting each other like all these 627 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: sexy things, and while you're in the same room, you know, right, 628 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: and like you're in a meeting and they're sitting behind 629 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: or he's sitting behind you, they're sitting behind you, and 630 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: then you know you're constantly you know that there's this 631 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: energy intention, right, and like everybody else could feel it 632 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: to a girl, and that's why they were hating. I know, 633 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: I know, I know they were. But you know, shout 634 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: out to myself because I got out of that job. 635 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm living my best life and I got my booth. 636 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: So and you got a better job, got a better job? 637 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: You want one? Yes? Um? Okay, so that was my example. Yes, 638 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: And actually, what are we doing on turn? Well, it's 639 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: really time for us to wrap up. Yes, we want 640 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: to remind y'all um to subscribe on YouTube, subscribe on 641 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: Apple podcast rate us. We're almost at a hundred. Will 642 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: it be you that is number one hundred? 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