1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: this is the right place. It's the John Cobelt Show 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: and we're on every day from three to six and 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: then after six o'clock. Whatever you missed. It's John Cobelt's 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: show on demand on the iHeart app. And that's where 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: you catch up and you sit down and you take 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: in this story we're about to do. In the Los 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Angeles area today, Gladwin Gill, a sixty six year old psychologist, 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: and his wife, Emeliu Gill, a seventy year old registered nurse. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Husband and wife team. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: They were charged with running a fake hospice care scheme. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: They were paying people who pretended they were dying, except 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: they weren't dying. They were faking it and they were 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: getting Medicare Hospice hospice money, and it's millions of dollars. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: The scam was going on for a while. And we 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: have the first Assistant US Attorney, Bill Saley with us 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: to talk about the bust. 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Bill, how are you. 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: We are doing well. We had a very busy morning. 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 3: You only mentioned two of the people arrested. We rested 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: a lot more than that. We actually announced charges on 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: fifteen different people this morning. We conducted multiple arrests and 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: raids throughout southern California this morning, and we did that 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: in conjunction with the Vice President's new Task Force on Fraud. 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: And so this is just the beginning, and you're going 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: to see more of these takedowns because the amount of 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: fraud is so egregious and it's so out of control, 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: particularly in California, that no one else is going to 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: do this unless it's us. So. But the two you 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: mentioned is just one example. There are more egregious examples, John, 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: including one lady we arrested this morning, Lolita Minird, and 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: she ran a hostice call to paying a hospice. Her 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: fraud was over nine million dollars in what she fraudulently 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: billed for hospice. And she would approach people at the market, 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: at the store in public, older people, and she would 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: offer them money to pose as hostese patients. So the 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: deal was she she would give them three hundred dollars 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: in cash a month. Meanwhile she's billing them for six 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. She's building medicare for six thousand dollars per person. 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: So that's how these frauds operate. They get people to 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: sign up, claim they're on hospice. Everyone gets a little 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: bit of cash. Everyone's happy until you get a knock 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: at six am by the FBI in your door. Then 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: they're not so happy. 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: I got another one here. It's like there's a separate 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: story for each fraud case. Doctor Fariba Javaharian sixty three 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: hospice facilities she was connected to, either as a medical director, 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: attending physician, or some other capacity. Billings of thirty five 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: million dollars in phony Medicare claims. 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: It just goes on and on. I mean, there's so 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 3: many examples at Ease, and these people are notorious. I'll 53 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: give you one other example that we can get into 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: why I think this is such a problem in California. 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Another case we know today Nita Palma. She's seventy six 56 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: years old. She's been convicted three times for healthcare fraud. 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: She's currently in subtle prison. While she was undergoing her 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: last conviction, she opened another hospice from within prison. 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: You're wait, wait, she's in prison and she opened another hospice. 60 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: Yes, with her husband who's on the outside. So she 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: opened another fraud and hostice while she's in prison and 62 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: her husband adultso cut back in, we rested here this 63 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 3: morning for helping his convicted wife operate another fraudulent hostice 64 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: that build another four point eight million dollars to medicare. 65 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: And they just keep doing it because they think they're 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: gonna get away with it. 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: And so well, they did for a number of years, 68 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: didn't they. I mean, this stuff's been going on for 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: quite a few years. 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: It's a lot of money we're talking about. You know, 71 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: these people build millions of dollars in just a couple 72 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: of years, and you put that over multiple defendants, multiple people, 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: And like the one couple you talked about the Gills, 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: they couldn't operate the hospice in their name because they 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: had criminal convictions, so they opened the hospice under their 76 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: daughter's name. So these fraudsters will do all kinds of 77 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: things to get around the supposed measures that are in 78 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: place to keep frostters away from this. They just use 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: their kids name, they use other identities. They'll find older 80 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 3: people and pay them cash and take their Social Security number. 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: It's it's relentless. 82 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Now, is this something that the state should have easily detected. 83 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: Let me tell you the problem. And Newsom's trying to 84 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: be cute and I call him the fraud king. Let's 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: talk about the fraug king. Because he's being cued. He's saying, well, 86 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: this is a federal program. Yeah, the federal government has 87 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: let this stuff go, and at least they're finally doing 88 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: something about it. That's not how this works. Most of 89 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: the money, yes, comes from the federal government. We're the 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: big piggy bank. The programs are administered through the state. 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: The money is handed to the state, and the state 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: administers a lot of these programs that we're talking about. 93 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: In this case, it's the state that runs the hospices. 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: It's the state that issues the licenses for the hospice. 95 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: It's the state that's supposed to be regulating the doctors 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: and the nurses. It's not the federal government. So Newsom 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: and California they hand out hospice licenses like cookies, no vetting, 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: no checking, come and get it. And there are more 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: hospices in California than anywhere else in the country. About 100 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: a third of all the hospices, according to what doctor 101 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 3: Oz said today, are in California. We don't have a 102 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: third of the population, so California has not done any 103 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: vetting or checking. The California Auditor said they need to 104 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: put emergency regulations in place to regulate these hospices. They 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: were supposed to put that in place January first, knew 106 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: some refuse to do it. They're taking the can down 107 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: the road again. He doesn't want to do it because 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to own this issue. But it isn't 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: an issue. 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: He's a fraud king, But don't wouldn't he look like 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: a hero if he was a part of this investigation process. 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: Him and Rob Bonta. Why aren't they holding a press 113 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: conference and saying, look at all these fraudulent hospices that 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: we busted, or that we helped the FEDS bust. 115 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: I try. 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand what's the upside for him to allow 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: all this. 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: It's not that they wanted to allow, it's that they've 119 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: done nothing about it for so long, and now there's 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: all these fraudulent hospices operating. The problem is almost so 121 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: big it's out of control. I think if he were 122 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 3: to come out and do these regulations, he would now 123 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: basically put himself out there as the one to have 124 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: to go into the old oversight, and I don't think 125 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: he has any interested in spending state resources going out 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: inspecting hospices throughout California and going after fosters. That doesn't 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: interest them, John. They want to go spend money on 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: the legal immigrants and god knows and trains to nowhere. 129 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: This isn't something that's fun for them to do. So 130 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: I think they're playing this game where they can just say, well, 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: this is a federal problem, go talk to them, and 132 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: they don't want to. They don't want to do anything. 133 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: No, it's there. 134 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: It's their responsibility. You just supply the money and they 135 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: are supposed to, uh create the mechanism to track all 136 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: this stuff, right, I mean that that that's their work. 137 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean that that's their responsibility. Is it not entirely? 138 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: You cannot run a hospice and you cannot access the 139 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: Medicare system for billing unless you are licensed as a 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: hospice facility by the state of California. That's true in 141 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: eddy state. That is the key to unlock all this money. 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: It's the hospice license is what gives you that legitimacy 143 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: to be able to and issue bills to Medicare. 144 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: So I mean I could have done this. 145 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: I could have done this for my home just I 146 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: guess filled out all the forms online and declared myself 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: a hospice and come up with fake patients or pay 148 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: fake patients, and the money would come rolling in by 149 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: the millions. It's really that easy. 150 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 3: It's it was that easy. Yes, but doctor Oz. Now 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: we're working with doctor Oz. Doctor Oz is trying to 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: turn off the spickett so when they think that there's 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: a suspicious hospice, they're not going to issue any more 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: payments to them. So doctor Oz is trying to turn 155 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: off the spicket. We are looking backwards and trying to 156 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: find the worst of the worst so we can go 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: arrest and charge the people that took all this money. 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: We want to We want to get those fraudsters. 159 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: And you actually arrested fifteen people today, right, That was 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: the That was the total number. 161 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: We charged, fifteen people. It was half of them were 162 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: hosts fraud. The others were healthcare fraud. They were stealing 163 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: from the longshore union's healthcare counts. Together it was almost 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: sixty million dollars in fraud. Again, this is our first 165 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: big takedown. We plan to do more of these going forward. 166 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: People don't appreciate it takes a lot of work to 167 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: put these cases together. I know they sound simple. You 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: see a video and you think we'll just go grab them. 169 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: That's not how it works. There's a lot of subpoenas 170 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: and search warrants and affidavits, and we have to prove 171 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: these cases beyond a reasonable doubt in court. And as 172 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: you know, bringing a seventy six year old lady into 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: court in front of a jury, she's just gonna play 174 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: dumb or you know, innocent, and I was confused. I 175 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: didn't know, So you know, we have to be able 176 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: to prove these cases beyond a reasonable doubt. We want 177 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: them to go to prison. It's not enough to just 178 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: arrest them. 179 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Bill A Sale, excellent work. Thank you for coming on 180 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: and explaining all this anytime, Thanks an first Assistant US 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: Attorney Bill Assale. When we come back, we'll give you 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: more details about this bizarre fraud under Gavin Newsom's nose, 183 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: and he knows this has been going on. This is 184 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: no surprise, and certainly in the last few months there 185 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: have been many many media reports and I guess the 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: answer is what Bill said, He didn't care it's got 187 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: other things to do, other things to spend money on. 188 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: He and Rob Bonte are not gonna go investigating hospice fraud. 189 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: They would rather spend their day following nonsense lawsuits against Trump. Meantime, 190 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: it's the Trump administration that's busting up all these fake hospices. 191 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: We'll tell you more. There's a lot more coming up. 192 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 193 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 4: six forty. 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: John Cobelts Show. Oh, moistline is Friday, which is tomorrow? 195 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: How are we doing on moistline calls? 196 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: Eric? 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's always room. It's just a matter of 198 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: if it's good enough for me to take it, that's right. 199 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: So you have to you have to perform. You have 200 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: to produce eight seven seven moist eighty six, eight seven 201 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: seven moist eighty six. So you usually talkback feature on 202 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Leave us some message with an hour 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: with enough outrage and you might make the cut for tomorrow. 204 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: Twice five twenty five point fifty. Well, let me tell 205 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: you Newsom ignored this problem, flat out ignored it, especially 206 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: the last four years. So the Trump administration has come 207 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: in and today alone they arrested fifteen people on healthcare 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: fraud charges. They had defrauded us out of sixty million dollars. 209 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: This is our money. And Newsom, in typical fashion, is 210 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: lying saying, well, this is a federal program, except it's 211 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: the state's responsibility to manage this and to prevent the 212 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: fraud from happening, and to detect and prosecute the fraud 213 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: that occurs. And he hasn't done any of that for 214 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: four years, and the the narcissistic cycle path is again 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: blaming the Trump administration for his incompetence and laziness. And 216 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: this is indisputable that every state is in charge of 217 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: running its own Medicare Medicaid program, and they are responsible 218 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: for checking to see whether the alleged healthcare providers are real. 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: They're supposed to prevent the fraud, detect the fraud, prosecute 220 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: the fraud. Knewsome did none of that because he doesn't care, 221 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: and he thinks he could just blame everything on Trump. 222 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: Well he's wrong, he's lying, and I'm sure that shocks you. 223 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Let me go through a couple of these cases here 224 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: we mentioned at the beginning about the husband and wife 225 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: team has an amazing number of women involved in these 226 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: stories and older people. I mean, the criminals come in 227 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: all forms when it comes to stealing money. The Gill 228 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: couple Gladwin Gill and Amelou Gill, sixty six and seventy, 229 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: psychologist and nurse. They submitted five million dollars in fraudulent 230 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: claims for end of life services. The thing was people 231 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: weren't dying. That seems to be the case. Also arrested 232 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: Lolita Minerd. She's sixty five of Anaheim. She's got a 233 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: hospice in Artesia, and she submitted five nine million dollars 234 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: in fake claims and Medicare paid her at eight and 235 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: a half million. She built medicare for patients who are 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: not dying. A lot of the people on the forums 237 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: had the same address and lived far away. Maybe it 238 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: was a whole family that signed up, or maybe it 239 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: was an imaginary family one couple connected to the scheme. Now, 240 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: now a lot of these people were paid. They were 241 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: either were paid money up front to join, or they 242 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: got kickbacks. They were approached at a market to sign up, 243 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: and Minerd and three of her employees promised if the 244 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: couple signed everything, they would get the coverage for free. 245 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: And they would receive three hundred dollars a month, and 246 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: then Minud had the money delivered in an envelope in 247 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: cash six hundred a month for six months. Supposedly they 248 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: had a terminal illness. That's why they were in the hospice. 249 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Neither one did their doctor confirmed that. The couple also 250 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: got a supply of nutritional shakes, vitamins, wheelchairs. Manud's hospice had, 251 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: I like this, a non death discharge rate, so you 252 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: could get discharged because you're dead. But they had a 253 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: non death rate of eighty five percent. So somehow in 254 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: their hospice, eighty five percent of the people walked out alive. 255 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: That is five times the national average of seventeen percent. 256 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: I didn't even know seventeen percent leave the hospice alive. 257 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: I thought that was the absolute last stop on the train. 258 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: Let me see who else do it. Oh and by 259 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: the way, this is JD. Vance's Broad Task Force. Okay, 260 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: this is doctor Oz. He was on the scene as 261 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: well for these busts. This is entirely a Trump administration 262 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: production because Newsome refused to do it. Let him run 263 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: on that boys, his uh, it's his presidential hopes sinking 264 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: like a rock. Gladwin Gill and Amelou that is the 265 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: first couple I mentioned. They flaunted their lifestyle. They posted 266 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: photos along celebrities like Mario Lopez, George Clooney, President George W. 267 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: Bush. 268 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: They lived the big life. It's always the same story 269 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: that we read. I'm going to go through this. I'm 270 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: sure expensive handbags are In one post. The guy can 271 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: be seen posing next to a sports agent named Lee 272 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: Steinberg during a Super Bowl party in twenty twenty two. 273 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Let me see, Oh yeah, here we go. Mortgage payments. 274 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: They paid for their mortgage, car payments, international flights, restaurants, 275 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: personal bills. They had a multimillion dollar home in Covina, 276 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Ohe enforcement sawed through their front gate and there were 277 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: all these luxury cars, the homes surrounded by palm trees. 278 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: No mention of a burkin bag. 279 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 5: Though, for because they probably didn't go in the closet. 280 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: People with birkin bags tend to be fraudsters. 281 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 5: They're so freaking expensive. 282 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: That's the that's the only way you can afford them, right, Yeah, 283 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: So if I see you. 284 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: With one, you will never see me with one. 285 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: What more coming up? 286 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM 287 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: six forty. 288 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio, at social 289 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: media at John coblt Radio, and subscribe on YouTube. Wou'd 290 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: you please? Uh, there's a new video after every show. 291 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt's show. You don't 292 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: have to pay anything, You just subscribe and then you 293 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: get a little beep and tells you can watch the 294 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: video now. YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt's show. Well, 295 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. Eric wall Swallow might as 296 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: well be, uh, Gavin Newsom's younger brother. If you think 297 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: Newsom's an oily sleeves bag and he is, wait till 298 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: swallwell comes. He's among the leading Democrats running for governor. 299 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: First of all, the guy is broke. He's got no money, 300 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: and he's apparently irritating other congress people and staff members 301 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: trying to get them to invest in some wacky startup 302 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: he has called find Raiser. I'll explain that in a moment. 303 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: But he's not paying his taxes. He's forty five years old. 304 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: He's using his campaign fund money two hundred thousand dollars 305 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: to cover childcare costs. He and his wife have three kids. 306 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: And what he's also doing is he's not paying his 307 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: federal taxes. He's not having anything withheld so that his 308 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: take home pay is higher, but eventually got to pay 309 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: the taxes back, and he's trying to delay that. One 310 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five thousand dollars of his income came 311 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: from withdrawing money from his retirement accounts, so he's been 312 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: not he's been delaying his tax payments, he's withdrawing from 313 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: his retirement account. He's using campaign money to take care 314 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: of his kids. Sounds like sounds like a guy looking 315 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: for a racket. I think he's a grifter like Newsom 316 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: and Newsom's wife are grifters. And you know, his salaries 317 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars, and I don't 318 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: know what his wife does. Her name's Brittany Watts, but 319 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: their combined income is four hundred and forty four thousand dollars. 320 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: So there's something screwy going on here, because if you're 321 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: making four hundred and forty four thousand dollars and you're 322 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: using campaign money for childcare, and you're delaying your tax 323 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: payments for years, and then you're liquidating your retirement account. 324 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: Something's going on there. Now. Remember last we heard about 325 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: this guy, he was carrying on with that Chinese spy. 326 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what he and the Chinese spy 327 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: were doing, but there was some kind of relationship there. Well, 328 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: the Chinese spy, Fengfeng, Christina Feng, deported herself. He got 329 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: kicked off the House Intelligence Committee. Of course, this guy 330 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: is the leading Democrat running for governor. Of course he is. 331 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: The last time some organization estimated as a net worth 332 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: was eight years ago when he was worth thirty seven 333 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. He's got one hundred thousand dollars in student loans, 334 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: He's got sixty five thousand dollars in credit card liabilities. 335 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh please put this guy in charge of the California budget. 336 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 337 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the racket he's going to set up 338 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: like Newsom's wife with her feminist movie racket. 339 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: She charges. 340 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: She charges schools like a million and a half dollars 341 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: to run her feminist movie. They have to, they're forced to. 342 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: The Swallow campaign said his finances reflect the realities of 343 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: a middle class family. Well there's another there's a lie 344 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: right there. I mean this is this is a Newsome 345 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: quality candidate. And you know what, I think he's dumber 346 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: the Newsom If Newsom's aid a ninety three IQ this guy. 347 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: This guy's about eighty nine, middle class family, four hundred 348 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: and forty four thousand dollars. That says rich guy to me. 349 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: Now Here here is the suspicious startup and it's called 350 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: find Raiser. He Swallow and his former chief of staff 351 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: yard Dina Wolf Your Dina. You didn't notice no one 352 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: has normal names anymore. There are no John's and DeBras. 353 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: You know, those are old people names. 354 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: Now Ardena, your Dina sounds like like some kind of 355 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: yogurt or a wine. And he apparently was annoying the 356 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: other congress people and they're uh political uh operatives. He'd 357 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: constantly send him texts and emails and call them up 358 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: go in their office. And he bothered his colleagues and 359 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: said everybody was unsettled because Sallow and Yardena could be 360 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: a could be a fragrance, right, said they were hitting 361 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: up everyone and uh now now they're getting sub scrutiny 362 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: because he was promoting this AI fundraising company. And so 363 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: people thought, well, this this sounds like an ethics problem them. 364 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: It was supposedly an AI driven platform to help campaigns 365 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: analyze donor data and improve fundraising, and they've gotten sixty 366 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in revenue from about a dozen Democratic campaigns. 367 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: It sounds like a money laundering operation. The company had 368 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: becoming running joke among consultants and staffers for other congressmen, and. 369 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: They say Swallow may have. 370 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: Tied his support to these congress people and their legislation 371 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: if they invested in this company. Looks like the other 372 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: congress people felt pressure to entertain his pitches because he 373 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: could give you support for your bills or your your candidacies. 374 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: He's got ID one hundred thousand dollars in student loan debt. 375 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: He also has credit card balances and a mortgage. All 376 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: his debt exceeds a million dollars. So I am smelling 377 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: like some kind of racket here, right, You're starting up 378 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: an AI company and you're hitting on all the other 379 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: congress Oh, he is going to love Sacramento because these 380 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: people in Sacramento do this stuff all day. 381 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: Every day. This is the way of life. 382 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: I guarantee you he is going to be a replica 383 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: of Newsom. He's stupid, he's a compulsive wiar, he's a grifter, 384 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't take responsibility for anything. He blames Trump for 385 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: it all. You will get exactly the same guy, and 386 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: it seems to be the perfect candidate for California. And 387 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: why people vote for these kinds of characters is just stunning. Apparently, 388 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: if you shout loudly enough about Trump, people's brains freeze. 389 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: This guy was in charge of one of the impeachments, 390 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: so he's got these credentials, but he smells like a 391 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: tremendous amount of trouble. We'll talk more we come back. 392 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A sixty. 393 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: We are on from three to six every day and 394 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: then after six o'clock the podcast John Cobelt Show on 395 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: demand and the first half hour head bill of Sale 396 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: on the assistant US Attorney here in Los Angeles for 397 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: the Central District, and he gave us a rundown on 398 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: all the fraud cases that his office helped bust along 399 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: with JD. Vance, has got a task for us and 400 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: doctor Oz and all of the Sale's investigators, and they 401 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: arrested fifty people this morning, charged him with I think 402 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: up to sixty million dollars worth of fraud, all Medicare fraud. 403 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: These are fake hospices, fake healthcare. This is stuff that 404 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: all this fraud happened under Gavin Newsom's nose, and he 405 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't do anything about it. He wouldn't stop it, wouldn't 406 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 2: prevent it, wouldn't investigate, it wouldn't stop, it wouldn't prosecute it. 407 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: And he's responsible for doing it. And so now the 408 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: Trump people are coming in and stopping some of the fraud, 409 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: doing the job that Newsom and Rob Bonta refused to do. 410 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: So we will do more on that later in the show. 411 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: Now at four o'clock, Royal Oaks is coming in or 412 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: is going to be on the phone. ABC News Legal 413 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: analyst because Trump fired the Attorney General Pam Bondi today, 414 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: So we'll get into that, see why that happened. The 415 00:26:54,359 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: Bimbos are upset Byron knowme the wacky been of the 416 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: Wacky Form. Former Department of Homeland Security Secretary christinome Brian 417 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: was outed this week. He was on a video chat 418 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: with three OnlyFans models and they were all wearing well 419 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: he was wearing oversized balloons under a crop top and 420 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: the knotted part of the balloon would be the nipple. 421 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, I wonder I mean, did that really make 422 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: him crazy? 423 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: Did we dressed like that? 424 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: Huh? 425 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: Did that that? 426 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: That? 427 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Like stern up is? 428 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: Uh, well why else would he do it? 429 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: That's I mean, I don't know. 430 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 5: I don't know that life. 431 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: I I can't relate to that. I can't see. 432 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: I can't see getting like a like a midriff thing, 433 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: stuffing two rubber balloons under it, sitting there and this 434 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: is making me wild with. 435 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Passionate sexual energy. I just. 436 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: Well, now everybody's investigating this kink and they're going online 437 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: and they're insulting the women who are part of this 438 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: bimbo group and that's what they call themselves. Like Mika 439 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: is a twenty something uh, and she says being a 440 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: bimbo isn't just about having a hot body and big 441 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: lips and bigger boobs. It's a way of keeping a 442 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: sense of whimsy, lightheartedness and hyper femininity in a world 443 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: that can feel so intense. And she doesn't like this 444 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: idea that she's an unintelligent head empty hot girl. 445 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: Well maybe she is very intelligent. 446 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: Which is I guess what Brian no wants to be 447 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: he wants to be an empty headed hot girl. Bimbofication 448 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: is when a person, normally a woman, transforms herself into 449 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: a hyperfeminine, arbi like version of themselves and then they 450 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: like to show it off. 451 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: Uh the neer. 452 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: The California Post did a helpful search of the hashtag 453 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: bimbo and you get three hundred and thirty four thousand 454 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: videos on TikTok. So this is another one of these crazes. 455 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: Four hundred and sixty six thousand on Instagram. And the 456 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 2: women are petite, and they were skimpy fashions, pink crop tops, 457 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: micro shorts, long lashes, heavy eyeshadow, sky high heels. And 458 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: I guess some of them inject saline into their butts 459 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: or breasts. I bet they get a lot of likes. 460 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: You're petite, you give dea no no desire to be 461 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: a bimbo. Oh I thought you were talking to me. 462 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm not petit. 463 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: No my bimbo from though? 464 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Did you have bimbo detes? 465 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 466 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, I'm saving that. 467 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: Bimbos are on porn hub three thousand videos only fans. 468 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: Hundreds of sex workers are getting paid to sit there 469 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: in that outfit and then guys like by Renown show up. 470 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Now. 471 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess most of the guys just want to look 472 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: at the women, but he wanted to be one of 473 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: the women. 474 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 3: I Uh. 475 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: He spent twenty five thousand dollars messaging these women on OnlyFans. 476 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: Twenty five thousand dollars. I don't know how much those 477 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: those balloons cost. I guess you'd get those in party. 478 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 5: City though, right, probably Amazon. 479 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks like the women women like make fun. 480 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Of these guys. Uh, what is this one here? 481 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: Griffin Brooks is another guy who does this, and he 482 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: says embracing hyperfeminity never means never being aloof or unintelligent. 483 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: He says he's a trailblazer in the reclamation of bimbofication. 484 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Where do these people come from. 485 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: I've never even heard that word before, but. 486 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: These people would not have beat bimbo fication. 487 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: Bimbo Aaron Aaron Eric is looking at me like I'm crazy. 488 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I just thought you meant the word bimbo. 489 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 5: Oh, bimbo. 490 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: Of course you've heard that one, yes, I have. But what, no, 491 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: how did this happen? As a kid, I don't remember 492 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: these things existing. Obviously it's social media. But because of 493 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: social media, I mean, are thousands and thousands of people 494 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: signing up? They had this urge inside them, like can 495 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: you see I can't see my dad doing this. I 496 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: can't imagine coming home my dad all sweaty from the 497 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: fact and he's putting on a pair of rubber balloons 498 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: and hot pink shorts. Like, who are these guys there? 499 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: There was no dads in my neighborhood that acted like that. 500 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: You don't know that. 501 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't close. 502 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 2: I wonder, you know, I wonder what. I don't know 503 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: when we come back Royal Oaks. He's ABC News legal 504 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: analysts and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General got fired today 505 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: by Trump. We'll see what the reasons were with Royal Oaks. 506 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: Coming up next, Debra Mark live in the Camfi twenty 507 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: four hour Newsroom. You've been listening to The John Cobelt 508 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: Show podcast. 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