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Speaker 1: What Is Up, Mets Fans, Episode number eighteen of the

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Speaker 1: Mets Up podcast, Coming at You. We just finished up

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Speaker 1: a series that we shockingly won with the replacements against

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Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies. More of a I guess testament to

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Speaker 1: how bad the Rockies are more than really how good

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Speaker 1: the Mets are, because we didn't necessarily play good baseball,

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Speaker 1: but we scraped away three wins on a three game

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Speaker 1: winning streak. Don't let this team get hot at the

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Speaker 1: Blake and I. We're two and a half games up

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Speaker 1: in first place in the NLY. So as bad as

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Speaker 1: things could have been, still looking good, still feeling great,

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Speaker 1: still feeling positive. A lot of good things to take

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Speaker 1: out of this series. You guys know where to find

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Speaker 1: us if you want to listen to it, Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: gonna be back with the YouTube videos. You get to

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Speaker 1: see my crustacean looking face here, because I'm quite red

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Speaker 1: right now, looking like mister Crabs was at the doubleheader.

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Speaker 1: Got a little burnt, but as well. If you want

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Speaker 1: to follow us on social media, you can hit us

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Speaker 1: up on Twitter and Instagram. Mess up really simple, really easy.

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Speaker 1: We're posting a lot of content everywhere, so keep showing

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Speaker 1: the support. Guys really do appreciate it. Here with the

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Speaker 1: co host James Sheiano, Jeter had no range me, Mark Luino,

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Speaker 1: draftneck Mark James, how we do and how we feel.

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Speaker 1: And you're in a different spot, so of course, whenever

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Speaker 1: you do get to a new area, we have to

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Speaker 1: know where you are. So where's James Sheiano today?

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Speaker 2: I'm actually in Denver, which is kind of ironic that

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here in Denver when the Mets play the

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Speaker 2: Rockies and Queens.

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Speaker 1: Yes, out of all the times to be in Denver.

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Speaker 2: It kind of sucks how that happens. But we're here

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Speaker 2: and this is a wonderful city, great place. Would recommend

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Speaker 2: to anybody the Mile High City, Mile High City. I

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Speaker 2: have some funny comments on the Rockies broadcast from the

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Speaker 2: last two nights, which I'll share as we get later

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Speaker 2: in the show. Was again to that on my new

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Speaker 2: show that we like to do. But hey, beautiful, beautiful

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Speaker 2: week for the Mets.

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Speaker 1: We cannot complain. I think coming into this series, we're

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Speaker 1: probably realistically looking to split right now with the way

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Speaker 1: that this Mets roster is five hundred baseball is good baseball.

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Speaker 1: That's really really good for the way that our team

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Speaker 1: is with all the injuries. We did get a big

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Speaker 1: guy back though, in Jacob de Gram, who will touch

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Speaker 1: on a little bit more as we get deeper into

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Speaker 1: the episode, because he pitched a fantastic Game two, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's just do it. Let's start talking

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Speaker 1: about the games. Game one. Mets didn't win this one,

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Speaker 1: as we know, we're on currently a three game win streak,

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Speaker 1: but there were some things to take a look at

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Speaker 1: here all over the place. One of the weirdest things

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Speaker 1: to start off, though, James McCann got his first ever

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Speaker 1: start at first base in Major League baseball. Now, he

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Speaker 1: did play this position a little bit in college, they said,

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Speaker 1: so he was an Arkansas razorback, played a little bit

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Speaker 1: there and honestly didn't look bad at first base.

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Speaker 2: Oh, actually looked kind of good. The moment the lineup

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Speaker 2: car dropped a Monday afternoon, we had like our first

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Speaker 2: very sinking feeling of this Mets season, and that usually

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Speaker 2: comes in every Mets season around mid May. So this

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Speaker 2: was about on target, even with the new all the

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Speaker 2: new vibes going on, new ownership and everything. But seeing

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Speaker 2: the James McCann first base with I don't even remember

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Speaker 2: who was saying. I think he was hitting third. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it all just felt so wrong, so awful, It felt dirty.

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Speaker 1: No, it was not like a recipe for success. And granted,

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Speaker 1: while we didn't win this game, as we've seen later

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Speaker 1: which is or this weekend, I should say, which is

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Speaker 1: good news. But until then, James McCann and possibly even

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Speaker 1: for what seems like the near future. But that was

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Speaker 1: an interesting start to the day. Peterson on the mound

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Speaker 2: Monday night. Yep, this was is a super like Peterson

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Speaker 2: game where he definitely didn't have his best stuff, like

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Speaker 2: He gave up three shots in the first couple of innings.

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Speaker 2: we played this team. That guy is freaking good. He's

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Speaker 2: for his Noonie Diaz on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Elious Daz because that guy owns

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Speaker 1: He's the Chase Anderson of hitters. He's terrible at everything.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't own anything, he just rents. But and then story

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Speaker 2: a classic Peterson performance. Six innings, three earned, three walks,

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Speaker 2: I would actually say, but he got it done. He

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Speaker 2: and that was that game in Philadelphia back in April

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Speaker 2: there's been a couple of starts where he hasn't even

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Speaker 2: he has never really left a game with the Mets

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Speaker 2: not in it, which I you gotta give some credit

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Speaker 1: For that, No, you have to. It was a I

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Speaker 1: Even though he wasn't great, even though his stuff wasn't

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Speaker 1: I think that's huge for Peterson's growth because he's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I mean, we know that he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: He's learning, he's learning, he's changing up his repertoire every game.

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Speaker 2: Something I like that I've mentioned a few times is

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Speaker 2: that neither the forceeam fastball or the sinker were effective

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Speaker 2: statistical anomaly. And they counted for more than half of

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Speaker 2: was better. As I've touched on. It didn't allow like

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Speaker 2: I said how some sliders were jumped on early in

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Speaker 2: All of those were like middle middle, the two of

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Speaker 2: going to now say that Ryan McMahon, after watching him

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Speaker 2: I'll say that right now. But he found the slider

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Speaker 2: as the game moved on. Similar to Stroman last week

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Speaker 2: on it. Seven whiffs on eighteen swings right there, just

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Speaker 2: how he got through this game. That's how he gave

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Speaker 1: Week, and at times this game felt out of reach

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Speaker 1: despite being close, because the final score was still relatively close.

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Speaker 1: The Mets tried to scrap this one back here, they

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Speaker 1: which is gonna happen with this lineup. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: scoring a lot of runs. But we made Austin Gomber

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Speaker 1: Austin Gomber was a good trade, which it's not, by

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Speaker 1: Austin Gomber and the Rockies front office probably go, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe we didn't do that bad, Like, no, you still did.

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Speaker 1: It's just he faced a Triple A team. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't tell you that Austin Gomber is not good.

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Speaker 2: I wrote in the notes this. I probably wrote this

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Speaker 2: made Austin Gomber look like Clayton Kershaw as a left

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Speaker 2: am I watching out here? But like when you go

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Speaker 2: he's not a very good hitter. Cameron Mabn, who I

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Speaker 2: guy looks so completely lost at the play. I'm so

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Speaker 2: salty about Cameron Mabn because I had a sick meme

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Speaker 2: of life, none at all. Janeesh Vi Fargus tried to

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Speaker 2: then the pitcher spot like, you're not gonna score runs

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Speaker 2: we really did this to Austin Gomber. We made Austin

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Speaker 1: No, it definitely doesn't make any sense. But we did

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Speaker 1: Not to harp on Don being terrible, because he was

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Speaker 2: For sure, dude, And it seems like he has improved

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Speaker 1: That one throw he made was sick. I don't know

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Speaker 2: but if he can sit mid like ninety four, ninety five,

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00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,439
Speaker 2: like just sniff kiss ninety six once in a while,

433
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,520
Speaker 2: with a plus change up with actual commands, which it

434
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,879
Speaker 2: seems like he's had recently, he was really peppering the

435
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,040
Speaker 2: strike zone. He has to walk to a couple guys.

436
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,639
Speaker 2: So it might not be out of the woods yet,

437
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,200
Speaker 2: but I think that we might have a very sneaky

438
00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,240
Speaker 2: C team B team's bullpen piece here in NCDs that

439
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,080
Speaker 2: we thought it was kind of nothing two weeks ago.

440
00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,199
Speaker 1: Bullpen depth is looking fantastic this series, specifically, the bullpen

441
00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,000
Speaker 1: was really taxed heavily used, especially today in the doubleheader,

442
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 1: and they really have been stepping up. Like, if you

443
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 1: want to say one thing about this New York Mets team,

444
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,640
Speaker 1: they've pitched a hell of a season and the bullpen

445
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,399
Speaker 1: has been fucking sick. The bullpen has been disgusting. Anyway

446
00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,600
Speaker 1: you look at it, you really don't find any problems whatsoever.

447
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,480
Speaker 2: No, and this team's not where it is. It's not

448
00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,080
Speaker 2: for that bullpen.

449
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 1: No, this team is not in first place without it.

450
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,920
Speaker 1: They've i mean, like even today in the games which

451
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,000
Speaker 1: we'll get to, like such close games that they're keeping

452
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 1: it close. They were not having these blow up innings

453
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,680
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the past, which is so refreshing

454
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 1: as a Mets fan because it feels like my entire

455
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 1: existence as a Mets fan has been watching bullpen's blow

456
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,359
Speaker 1: up and right now this Mets bullpen is just super

457
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,600
Speaker 1: super solid. Go to the ninth inning there, Drury hit

458
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 1: the home run. That sucked because like, way to tease

459
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,679
Speaker 1: us and bring us back into a game that I

460
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: was already mentally you know, checked out of.

461
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 2: And there was a man on of course too. And

462
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 2: then VR had a two to zero count. Yeah, I

463
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 2: think he swung in the back pitch and got out.

464
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 2: Then Lindor had not competitive at bat and was completely

465
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 2: out of it. It was painful to get so much

466
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,760
Speaker 2: closer to winning that game after it looks could get

467
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 2: a hill off Gomber.

468
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I think he might have. Miska had a decent

469
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,960
Speaker 1: little series. He got a couple of hits, so it

470
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 1: was tough game. Lose it. Whatever this is gonna happen

471
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,400
Speaker 1: with this team, They're just gonna get outscored. Whatever. Game two, though,

472
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,199
Speaker 1: this team got off to a hot start. Chick de

473
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 1: Gram on the mound, first start off the il. Everyone

474
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 1: was excited to see that. And we scored a run

475
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Speaker 1: in the motherfucking first inning.

476
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Speaker 2: First time in three weeks.

477
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Speaker 1: Imagine that's twenty one calendar days. That's too far, that's

478
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 1: too much.

479
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 2: It was actually twenty four, I believe calendar days because

480
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,160
Speaker 2: for the last time we had done it was May first,

481
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 2: and that was May twenty five.

482
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's sad. But yeah, good start to the game.

483
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: And de Gram of course gave us a chance to win,

484
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 1: as he always does because he's disgusting.

485
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 2: A chance to win. I was putting, that was putting

486
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram's talent very lightly. Okay, let me say

487
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 2: out there every five days and gives us a chance

488
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,120
Speaker 2: to win. I really love him. He really plugs away.

489
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, fair, I didn't give him enough credit.

490
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram makes us a team that's going to

491
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 1: win games. He puts the team on his back.

492
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 2: He's that dude. He's fucking incredible. He is He is

493
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: such a unique talent, especially given his age and his

494
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 2: general like development. He is one of those like folklore

495
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 2: baseball players. Esports Illustrat made the joke about Sid Finch

496
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 2: forty years ago, Jacob d' grom is Sid Finch rolling

497
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 2: the ball one hundred and two miles, and now he's

498
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 2: thirty five years old. He's only throwing fastballs and no

499
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 2: one's even close to hitting it. Like, no, the guy's

500
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 2: a myth.

501
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: He is good. He's just good. He's simply good.

502
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 2: Can you understand Jacob d Gram Again? He keeps us

503
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: close and he's good.

504
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a Jacob de gram answer. He would

505
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: be like, I'm pretty good.

506
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Steve Traxel?

507
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve Traxeld. He was one of my favorite pictures

508
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: when I was younger, for no reason, the human reigin

509
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: de liafe. Yes, But back to de Gram still probably

510
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: didn't have his best stuff, I think coming off the il.

511
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: But like the Rockies lineup, one isn't good and two

512
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: d Gram is the best pitcher in baseball, so destroyed them.

513
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: Even though he wasn't sharp.

514
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: I would say he was toying with him. He only

515
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: threw sixty three pitches, which it was like super bittersweet

516
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: to have him finally come off the DL and only

517
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: give us five endings, Like damn. That hurt like hell

518
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: because he looked so good and he was so economic

519
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: with his pitches, and like his counts, he was ineveryet bad.

520
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: He barely did any three ball counts. I don't think

521
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: he had any walks. He may have had one, but

522
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: I'm not recalling. I didn't write it down, But of

523
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: the Stoll sixty three pitches, he threw forty five fastballs.

524
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot. That's so many.

525
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: You're daring someone to hit you, Darren, someone's over seventy percent.

526
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: That's like, I know, you can't hit me. He only

527
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 2: busted out three changeups three and this guy's just playing

528
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 2: chess and everybody else is playing checkers. To Ryan McMahon,

529
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: who burned him again, we're gonna keep talk about Ryan

530
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: McMahon burned a gram in the second innings, scoring the

531
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: only Rockies running the day with a solo home run.

532
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: He has him O two with nobody on two outs

533
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 2: in the fourth inning, and he dropped one of those

534
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: change ups on his ass, got the whiff, ended the inning.

535
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: Didn't face McMahon again. People talk about all the time

536
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: de Grom's quick adjustments, like his the way he could

537
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: fix himself in the middle of the game. That's why

538
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: he's so good. That's what he did against Ryan McMahon.

539
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: He did not let who someone who has become one

540
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: of the best hitters in this line up, hurt him again.

541
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Speaker 1: Dude, just as you probably think you figure him out,

542
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: like McMahon hits a homer, he's gotta be like, yo,

543
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: that's off, Jacob de Gram. I'm feeling good, Today's gonna

544
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: be a good day. He throws a change up. Have fun.

545
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: Ryan McMahon smellulator like he's very good. But de gram

546
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: is just simply significantly better than almost everybody in Major

547
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: League Baseball with you mean.

548
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Almost more disrespect for Jacobs a Grom. He's not better

549
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 2: than almost everyone. He's better than everyone in Major with baseball.

550
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: He's the best pitcher in baseball.

551
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, pitchure wise, yes, but I mean like Trout, okay, like, oh,

552
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 1: I can't compare that.

553
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, all right, I've never seen Mike Trout pitch.

554
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

555
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: We apparently threw a no hitter and school but that's

556
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: really not really comparable to pitching Cy Young award winning

557
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: seasons at Major League Baseball level, to grom degreat the

558
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: ground was sick, to Grim's awesome. He's the man. VR

559
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: continues to be the cog that keeps this dysfunctional Mets

560
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: roster turning. Right now, his numbers don't look good. I

561
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: don't understand how this guy has an OPS still below

562
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: seven hundred, because I feel like he's walking and hitting

563
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: and doing everything. But then at the end of the day,

564
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: you look get his numbers, you go, that's not very good.

565
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: But he is so I don't I don't know how

566
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: to explain it, but he's been such an X factor

567
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: for this team, keeping.

568
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Us afloat batting average wise, He's not hit enough to

569
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: get himself into like eight hundred OPS range because Vr

570
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: is not like a power threat. He has a couple

571
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: of nice dingers, which seems like a lot because no

572
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: one on our team has any home runs. He's not

573
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: pulling the ball in many gaps generally, and he is

574
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: drawing the walks. That on base percentage setting over three

575
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: ten is beautiful right.

576
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: Now, crazy for him.

577
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: It is something that this team really, really really needs

578
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: so badly as no one's in here. And he was

579
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: on base three times on Tuesday night. Yeah, of course

580
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: he was thrown out stealing two of those occasions.

581
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, you think John the VR is not

582
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: going to try and run when he gets on the

583
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: base bats.

584
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 2: No, but we talked about that last Sunday that, like

585
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: VR in Lindor, when those guys get on base to

586
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: table set, they had to be aggressive, they had to run.

587
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: Layle League Baseball pushed the envelope and they did that,

588
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: and I like to see him do that. Two for

589
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: three on steals is kind of weird, but like I

590
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: like the process, I like the aggressive this and he

591
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: did put three hard hit balls in play on Tuesday night,

592
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: two of one hundred and eight miles an hour one

593
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 2: ninety six. He has been one of the most important

594
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: mets on this team. We said it before, We'll say

595
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: it again. It feels weird every single time I do

596
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: say it, but I'll still say it.

597
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: No, he is one of the best players right now.

598
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Nido King does it again, goes Yard, cause why wouldn't

599
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: he Because he's Thomas Nido. And at this point, I

600
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: go in a clutch situation, I want Tomas Nito at

601
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the plate, which is crazy.

602
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: But why won't he hit third? Why can't Thomas Neither

603
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: be the three hither he's been hitting fifth and six

604
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: during the entire hot stretch, Thomas neither gets more of

605
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: starts than James McCann. When James McCann and Tomas either

606
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: in the lineup together, mckenn hits ahead of him.

607
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Hey, why are your best guys getting the most that

608
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: beasts and they choose McCann over Nidos still, which doesn't

609
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: make any sense. Also, like a big story of the

610
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: night was these fucking slide replay bullshit. De Gram got

611
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: it out when he was signed into second was off

612
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: for like literally you could slip a piece of paper

613
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: in between him and the base, which if you go

614
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: to replay and that happens, you do have to make

615
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: that call, Like, yes, he's technically off the base, he's out.

616
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: But I think that the way that the replay system

617
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: is where you can have someone up in the booth

618
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: who's watching the video and see it and slow it

619
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: down then say, yes, make the call. I hate that

620
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: the manager's got to make the decision. You got like

621
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: ten seconds and you can't look at other stuff. You

622
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: can't get this outside info, make a decision. I think

623
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: that's how you fix the replay thing, because this was

624
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: a big what to do this series, because the Mets

625
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: got kind of screwed a couple of times. And granted

626
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: we've benefited from these dumb slide stuff too, but oh god,

627
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: it's so annoying, Like this is what replay was meant for.

628
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: It's a double edged swords, like everyone's gonna get have

629
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: those benefit them, that ever's gonna have those hurt them,

630
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: hurt us on VR, that's steal a third. That would

631
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: have been est to have month ore of with less

632
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: than two outs. I think that was the fourth and

633
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: the fifth ending of this game.

634
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh and that was because Dreary fucking stepped out.

635
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was trying to get you into

636
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: your your diatribe aout brand, Drew, because you were texting

637
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: me in capital letters.

638
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: Yes, I was upset, Which should I just go on

639
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: my Brandon Drury thing right now?

640
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Laid the floor for you.

641
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you guys know, Brandon Drury's whatever, He's fine,

642
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: he's on the team. Jonathan VR Steeling third dude had it.

643
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, he was safe by a mile. He end

644
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: up getting called out because he slid over the bag

645
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: technically for like half a second when they held the

646
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: tag on him. But Brandon Drury did this man no favors.

647
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: He's a right handed batter standing in the box and

648
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: for some reason, before the pitch even gets in the

649
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: catcher's glove, he vacates the box. He's like, I'm out

650
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: of here. See you later have a clear throwing lane,

651
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: which made that play close. If Brandon Drury stays in

652
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: the box, Dom Nuniez or whoever the hell is catching

653
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: for the Rockies, team has to go around him then

654
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: make the throw, and he's gonna be on the other

655
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: side of the bag. He's not gonna be even with it.

656
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: John VVR is safe at third. I fully stand by this.

657
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: That half a second difference would have been made up

658
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: by the catcher having to go around Brandon Jury, but

659
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: instead he stepped out of the box for some reason

660
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: and gave him the most clear throwing lane I've ever seen.

661
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: It says if a lefty was up at the plate,

662
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: it was insane. And the other crazy thing, too, is

663
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: that Brandon Drury, that's a bad baseball play, not only

664
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Speaker 1: because you made the throw easier. But if dom Nunia's

665
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: even slightly sniffed Brandon Drury when he was out of

666
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the box, Jonathan vr is automatically out because if you

667
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: step out of the box, like as a batter, you

668
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: have a right to stay in there. Catcher crashes into you,

669
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: that's not on you. But as soon as you take

670
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: a step your shoelace gets out of there, catcher touches you.

671
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: The runners out because that's interference, so bad baseball from

672
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: all around. As a former catcher myself, I used to

673
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: love when guys would step out of the box because

674
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: I'll just fall Yeah, high school catcher, you know whatever.

675
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: But I used to love to fall into guys and

676
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: be like, all right, that guy's out, like I had

677
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: no shot, but thanks for being an idiot. You don't

678
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: know the rules. If dom Nunaz didn't know or knew

679
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: the rules, he would have done the same thing. We

680
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: need to be smarter, Brandon Drury. If you're gonna be

681
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: on this team, I need you to not step out

682
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: of the box. That's all I'm asking for. I'm expecting

683
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: minimum from you. Don't step out of the fucking box

684
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: when there's a guy stealing third.

685
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: Please, I didn't even think at that point that he

686
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: was like, as he was making the play easier, he

687
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: was risking interference. Like, yeah, its two wrongs in there,

688
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: do not make it right. No, it's also funny that

689
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: we can't differentiate between these Rockies catchers as hard as

690
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: we try, even though they have very different skill sets.

691
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: But both of them are terrible, like dom Nunia is.

692
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: What's shocking about dom Nunia is I think he struck

693
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: out like forty five times and under one hundred at

694
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: bats the first one hundred out of his career. Gary

695
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: was talking about it a lot because he was very fascinated.

696
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Without including today's game, he had ninety five at bats

697
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,239
Speaker 1: forty four strikeouts. That is insane. That is own. That's

698
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: not even the record, by the way, which is crazy.

699
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: You don't get called bomb Nunias for nothing.

700
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: No, he's just not very good. But that whole Rocky

701
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: team just isn't very good. And in a game like

702
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: this game two, which I can't believe we're Sialana, we

703
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about here. The Mets were

704
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of the Rockies being bad and

705
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: just be better, even despite being a minor League team offensively,

706
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: the pitching. The bullpen stepped up again.

707
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: Dude, the bullpen does it again and again again, like

708
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: the carrying call of this team, our backbone, our strength.

709
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: The Mets did not throw a fastball in this game

710
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: that was slower than ninety four point nine miles an hour.

711
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: That's silly, that's stupid. I don't know. I didn't look

712
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: this up, but I'm sure that's happened rarely in the

713
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: history of this game. Bud Black, who's been around baseball

714
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: for a very long time, he said that he doesn't

715
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: recall any game he's ever been a part of in

716
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: his life when he didn't see any fastballs below ninety

717
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: five miles an hour. We just dominated those guys with

718
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: heat all day. Castro found it again, which was great

719
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: to see. Love that, my boy. It was interesting that

720
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: he tightened his repertoire this game against the Rockies. I've

721
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: been lagging him all season for mixing his three pitches

722
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: pretty evenly between the sinker, the slider, and the change up.

723
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, he basically got rid of the change up

724
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: only through one the pitch that used to be his

725
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: bread and brother, the pitch that was advertised as his

726
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 2: bread and brother before and because Peterson was the same

727
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: way coming through college in the minor leagues. It seems

728
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: like the Mets are a team that doesn't necessarily value

729
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: the change up a ton. We're a very big slither organization.

730
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Which I think you should be. Slider has the change

731
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: of pace and its horizontal and sometimes vertical movement too,

732
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: like and especially when you do miss with like a

733
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: change up, and there's really only certain spots you can

734
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: throw a change up, like, yes, you're not going to

735
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: throw a change up low and to a right handed

736
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: batter if you're a right handed pitcher, because you're just

737
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: speeding up the bat. The worst thing that probably happens there,

738
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: or the best thing that probably happens there is a

739
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: foul ball like that pitch just doesn't get ready to

740
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: swing and miss a lot. But a slider with the movement,

741
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: the deception, the spin, everything like that, it's just an

742
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: infinitely better pitch.

743
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Definitely, I think it's the best pitch in baseball. And

744
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: da is just to keep moving through the bullpen to

745
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: get to the end of this game. His slide look

746
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: electric again that at bat to McMahon again, we're gonna

747
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: talk to McMahon again and again again, because the guy's

748
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: really freaking good. He threw a first pitch slider to

749
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: Ryan McMahon ninth inning, Like that is big respect that touched.

750
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: How not often Edwin Diaz throws first pitch sliders. The

751
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: only one I recall was one to J. C. B

752
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: real Muto if you like, about a month ago. He

753
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: throws him less than ten percent of the time his

754
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: mest's career, I think, actually less than nine percent of

755
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: the time. So him to find one to Ryan McMahon,

756
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: they're huge, and he stuck with that slider that entire

757
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: at bat over and over again. Slide slide, slide, kept

758
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: calling it, kept doing it, and he got the strikeout

759
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: and won the mess of the game.

760
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Edwin Diaz, Dude, he's been so good. Can't

761
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: deny it. Ed winn is legit. Play those fucking trumpets, baby,

762
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: because this dude, when he hears him, is on a

763
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: different level. Good team win Game two to Gom doesn't

764
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: get the win, of course, because of no decision. That's

765
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: what we love to do. God forbid, this guy gets

766
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: a win. He's got the least amount of wins in

767
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame history. When he's all said and done.

768
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: But it's it was good. We needed that one, especially

769
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: after a little bit of like a frustrating Game one.

770
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: We had the day off because of the rain, even

771
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: though it didn't rain, which was weird and awkward and strange.

772
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: But then we had the double header today, two seven

773
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: inning games. By the way, we have now played four

774
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: seven inning games against the Colorado Rockies this season and

775
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: we're done with them. That's it, more than half the

776
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: games we played against this terrible team. We're only seven

777
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: innings long, and I feel like he stretched these games out.

778
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Typically is gonna help us, especially with our roster compared

779
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: to theirs. But Game three, strumming on the mound. I

780
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: was at the game, so I didn't necessarily get to

781
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: see as much of the locations and the movement on

782
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the pitches. But he got the job done. He was

783
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: great through six.

784
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Dude, he was he was amazing. I texted you leaveman

785
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: for seven, leave men for seven. I wanted Stroman to

786
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: finish this game because he looked so damn good. This

787
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: game's ten am local, which is pretty funny. The Rockies

788
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: broadcast is making a ton of breakfast jokes. For the

789
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: first three innings of the game. Also, if Ryan Spilberg's

790
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: on the call, Ryan Spilberg is one of those great

791
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: low key baseball names that like, you know, Ryan Spielberg's

792
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: like you're a real one. Like yeah, back to Marcus Stroman.

793
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: Just like last week and some moros, he was like

794
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: a little bit shaky early two kind of soso innings

795
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: with guys on base, even though nothing was hit hard,

796
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: just like Dinky singles like that's gonna happen with Stroman,

797
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: but he really just figured it out, like those couple

798
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: hits the first two innings. Story and Blackman both made

799
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: loud outs in the fourth and that was literally it.

800
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: No one was even close to him the entire game.

801
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: He only gave up four hard hit balls the entire

802
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: game and none after the fourth inning, fifth and six.

803
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: He was clean as a whistle. He has been the

804
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: lynchpin to this team, like an absolute savior for what

805
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: we're trying to do. As everyone falls down around him,

806
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Marcus Stroman continues to stand up and just be consistent

807
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: every single fifth day started after start. Everything we need.

808
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he's great, He's he's awesome. He plays with

809
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: the chip on his shoulder and he's living up to it,

810
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: and especially now with the new cinderguard's news that we

811
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: got that he's be shut down for six weeks, probably

812
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't come back until the earliest August. Stroman's value just

813
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: keeps keeps climbing higher and higher. This is a guy

814
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: that I think the Mets one hundred percent right now

815
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: could even start having contract negotiations with him to extend him,

816
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: because this dude needs to be a part of this team.

817
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: He's been huge. He deserves it. I want him here.

818
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: He's a good pitcher, and I think it's going to

819
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: play until his you know, mid thirties. I don't see

820
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: this guy slowing down anytime soon.

821
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: I actually see him getting better because he continues to

822
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: tinker and he continues to find his way every single

823
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: time he's on the mound to do it today more

824
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: so on any start. This year, his Slyther was his

825
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: featured pitch. He threw the pitch thirty nine times. The

826
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: next closest was the sinker in nineteen. That is a

827
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: massive gap between your top two pitches for a guy

828
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: who's mixed a lot of pitches all year. Net Slyder

829
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: was like very very very good. Again, got a thirty

830
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: three percent with rate. That's freaking awesome. Also something that

831
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Stroman's been added to his repertoire this year, more so

832
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: in the year's pass was fourcing fastball, his third most

833
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: throne pitch after the slider and the sinker. I'm a

834
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: big forcing fastball guy. Sicker guy. I'm not a fan

835
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: of sinker. I don't understand it. I don't get it.

836
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't throw it if I had any kind of arm,

837
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: but through more than sixty five miles an hour, I

838
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't try to throw slower. I don't understand that. But

839
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: damn that four seamer there. It wasn't put in play today.

840
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: Through twelve times he got four swings, two whiffs, three

841
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: cold strikes, and everything else was a foul ball or

842
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: a ball.

843
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

844
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: That's good. This a pitch that Stroman has been focusing on,

845
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: should continue to focus on. I like that he has

846
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: made it a bigger part of this game. The one

847
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: thing I was upset about with Stroman today was that

848
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: the he just didn't have the splitter. It's a new pitch, yeah,

849
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: I got that hard to throw a new pitch. Yeah,

850
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: he's tinkering. He's learning he only threw eight he got

851
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: no whiffs on it. That's a far cry from last

852
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: week against the Marlins. Went through twenty five times and

853
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: it looked dominant basically the entire second half of that game.

854
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye on. But damn it did

855
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: Stroman help us out so much and put this as

856
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: you would say, plays in position to win with six

857
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: shout out of the innings.

858
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Yes, dude. And he made a difference in the field

859
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: today too. He made some great plays. There was that

860
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: like was it a bunt or the chopper on the

861
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: line that he got to and made like a really

862
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: like made a nice play. Yeah, showed off the glove,

863
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: the gold glove, which was really nice. And then there

864
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: was a ball that was hit to Parazza, I think,

865
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: and McCann got really aggressive because mcanus he's not a

866
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: first baseman. I can't blame him for this for good.

867
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: He had to go back and cover first after he

868
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: didn't get the ground ball. Luckily Stroman got there was like, no, buddy,

869
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I got this, don't worry about it. Big plays. That's

870
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that like little things that might

871
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: not come up in the box score. That's the Marcus

872
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: stroman difference. He's not going to strike out fifteen guys

873
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: over nine innings like Jacob de Grom, but he is

874
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: going to make some differences otherwise. And he's fantastic. He's

875
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: been really, really good this team again, not even as

876
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: close to a successful this year without.

877
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: Him, No, we're not. But he's amazing. Let's just get

878
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: to the rest of his game a little bit. Francisco

879
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Lindor got some boob birds all game because he still

880
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: can't hit, but Game one to he very easily could

881
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: have been three for three rather than o for three.

882
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: Every single one of those balls was like well hit

883
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: or at least in a position that I wouldn't have

884
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: expected the Rockies to get to it. A diving stop

885
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: in the first by Fuentes, yep, was a throw on

886
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: our side defensively all series, which is weird.

887
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: He's terrible defensively normally.

888
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly bizarre. And then McMahon made a six play

889
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: in that bunch, which, again, we don't love Francisco Lindor bunting,

890
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: but that was a good bunt on a guy who's

891
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: playing back. He got a lot on the bunch, which

892
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: is kind of ironic to say it was a hard bunch.

893
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: But McMahon also had to make a perfect play in

894
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: a perfect throw and he did. He did because he's

895
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: a good ballplayer.

896
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Definitely a great ballplayer. Love Ryan McMahon, Big Ryan McMahon podcast.

897
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: But even just to pick up scoop that ball with

898
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: the bare hands coming in so hard was impressive. And

899
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: he did made a perfect throat gun by a half

900
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: a step, and then he had a rocket off your mom.

901
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: Marquez is like the Meadi part of the Coso, right,

902
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: he willed it. He crushed him one hundred four miles

903
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: an hour or off the bat like that should be

904
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: a base hit whatever. I just I want this guy

905
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: to do well so bad, and I don't know how

906
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: soon it's gonna happen. I think it will happen. I

907
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: looked back at a couple guys starts with big contracts recently.

908
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: Alex Rodriguez, people don't remember, but hit about two sixties

909
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: first month with the Yankees. Ops was like barely seven hundred,

910
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: which with Alex Rodriguez as pedestrian, even that entire year

911
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: with the Yankees, you only hit two seventy five with

912
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: thirty homers for that frame of Alex Rodriguez's career. That's

913
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: crazy how we rose keeps talking about Leon Jones yea

914
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: after the nineteen After the nineteen seventy World Series, Kleon

915
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: had an awful two months of the season. He hit

916
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: like three twenty a year before and was hitting like

917
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: under two to fifty that time, which in nineteen seventy,

918
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: if you're hitting under two fifty, you're not even a

919
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: major league Yeah, you might get cut, yeah, exactly. But

920
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: like Kristin Yellick, since he signed that massive contract with

921
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: the Brewers, he still has not really been the all

922
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: star we're used to. Like, it affects guy's minds when

923
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: these material changes happen in their environment. It does not

924
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: to have an excuse, because there's been countless guys who

925
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: have performed very well when they've gotten lots of money. Sure,

926
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: but like, I'm still confident in Lindor and the fact

927
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: that he's still playing lights out defense leads me to

928
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: believe he is still the same confident ballplayer that we're

929
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: used to that we know. The Rockies broadcast to bring

930
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: him up again. They had a very funny couple of

931
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: frames in the first inning of this game. After that

932
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: ground ball double play, which again that was a great

933
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: yell play. The Rockies turn Twente a story with the

934
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: Spiny's back to the bag. The three six three is rare,

935
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: very rare. They showed like this very Queen's Mets fan

936
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: with a big, fat beard, very well groomed and manicure

937
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: but like very large, just going fuck you, Francisco, suck you.

938
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Still on math again, they're like, oh, some colorful language

939
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: from the from someone in the Mets crowd. And then

940
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: after Door made the diving stop in the top of

941
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: the second inning, which was like play by the way,

942
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: six play, the glove toss of Paraza didn't turn too

943
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 2: but he let a hit go with a man on base.

944
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: They got back to the same fan in the stands.

945
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: They found him. He was just saying there was arm

946
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: cross like that was pretty good. Yeah, this guy's still

947
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: a ball player. He's still a ballplayer. It's going to happen.

948
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: Just be patient. It's hard to continue to say being

949
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: patient because I really want him to be a good

950
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: hitter because we need him so bad. But just be patient.

951
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: I like, I've lost my patience, but I'm not upset.

952
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm not like mad at him and not done with him.

953
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I've not given up, but like I'm like, let's do

954
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: it soon, Like now let's start hitting. But I like

955
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: today was a day that it was good to see

956
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: the balls being hit hard because he did. And even

957
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: in the second game, like he was hitting some line

958
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: drives across the place. He even hit some good foul balls,

959
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: which we've talked about before. We love to see a

960
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: good foul ball. I think we're finally starting to see

961
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: him hit the ball a little bit like out in

962
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: front you're supposed to, you know, kind of attack the baseball.

963
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Looked like he was doing that a little bit today.

964
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Big stuff, big stuff, He's coming. We don't got to

965
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: worry about it. That was kind of it for the

966
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: game though, because it was one nothing. Edwin Diaz came

967
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: in shut the door as he always does. I love

968
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: those fucking trumpets and he loves them too. And the

969
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: Mets win one nothing, that's win, Mets win, lightning, fast game,

970
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: our flight four. Yeah, it was. It was fantastic. I

971
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: went with my dad in one of his friends, and

972
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: my dad was fully planning on leaving after the first game,

973
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: but he saw that I was like, it's like two

974
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: o'clock let's stay, let's see what's gonna happen. And then

975
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Game four happened, which was a little bit of a

976
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: roller coaster. Even though the Mets were in control basically

977
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: the entire game, it was not easy to watch. And

978
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: it's not never gonna you know, it's it's never gonna

979
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: be easy to watch Joey Luczy pitch, which we've said

980
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: on this podcast many times. James very vehemently not a

981
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: believer in Lukezy. I had some faith. My faith is dwindling.

982
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: While he pitched well against Miami, he didn't necessarily pitch

983
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: good today. And I'm not gonna completely blame it on

984
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: him because he shouldn't have been out there for the

985
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: fourth inning. No, but he is, especially against the Rockies,

986
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: not the guy we should be going to. Before we

987
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: get going into the Luczy breakdown, just a little quick tidbit,

988
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: he walks out to the soprano's theme song, which I

989
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: think is hilarious because like Lukeazy, crime Family whatever, like

990
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: that's a big mob thing, and so for him to

991
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: come out to the soprano's theme songs awesome. I wish

992
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: he had a little more you know, toughness on him

993
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: had a little bit of that edge. You know, he's

994
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: kind of missing, But that's just it. Before we start

995
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: talking about.

996
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: The bad I don't know. I texted you a joke

997
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game where Lukeazy. I saw

998
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: Lukeazy walk the first two batters and I was like,

999
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: oh no, this is good.

1000
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: Everyone said that.

1001
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the third you were like, he

1002
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: can't be out there right now. It's that you should

1003
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: not have been out here at all. Yeah, Joe Lucayzy,

1004
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: you shouldn't let him face a team like the Rockies

1005
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: who've seen him many times before, a guy who excels

1006
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: on deception, almost purely because the stuff is non existent.

1007
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: Letting guys who've seen him before face him is bad.

1008
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: Do you want he some crazy about Luke Caazy. He

1009
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: threw more pitches today than he threw the last time

1010
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: out against Miami.

1011
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no. We were talking about that. We're like,

1012
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: what do you throw like forty in Miami?

1013
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: I think it was like fifty three. Today was seventy.

1014
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too many.

1015
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: Why I don't understand why the leash was so long,

1016
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: Like they were just leaving him out there, just like

1017
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: they won't hit him. They'll never hit him, not Joey Lukazy.

1018
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: It seemed like I show made a Castro Rojas made

1019
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: a conscious effort to use the C team slash B

1020
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: team bullpen because he kept Lukez out there for way

1021
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: too long. And then Drew Smith was the next guy out,

1022
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: which we love Drew Flow, we stand Drew Flow, but

1023
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: we know that Drew Flow is not one of the

1024
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: big guys. I thought for sure that we're gonna be

1025
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: seeing like Familia may Castro. I thought that's who was

1026
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: coming in.

1027
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: It's shocking that Castro and made did not pitch in

1028
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: this game, for how close it was. I get that

1029
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: he wants to save those guys to use them in

1030
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: two games against the Braves. I get that, especially when

1031
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: they've only won two against the Rockies. But we said

1032
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: this time and time again, you cannot manage for tomorrow.

1033
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: It worked out today, but that's bad planning and bad process.

1034
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: I would not like to see that very much moving forward.

1035
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: And in the fourth thing too, leaving in Lucazy was

1036
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: crazy too, because in the third he had like two

1037
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: balls hit really well to the warning track. Billy McKinney

1038
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: made a nice catch By the way, Billy McKinney made

1039
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: his MET debut. We didn't talk about him.

1040
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: Acquisition of Billy McKinney.

1041
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice double. He seems like a He's a much

1042
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: more serviceable MLB player than the guys we've been thrown

1043
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: out there, that's for sure.

1044
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: He's a purely competent baseball player, which is such a

1045
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: massive improvement over the things on this roster. Is a

1046
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: former first round pick. He's mildly athletic, he doesn't strike

1047
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: out very far above league average. He plays decent defense.

1048
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: There's a modicum of pop in that bat. This is

1049
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: everything I've ever dreamed of Jilly McKinny.

1050
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: This is amazing Billy McKinney, especially when you compare him

1051
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Emcameron Mayben. Like, hell yeah, Billy McKinney, let's go, because

1052
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: that guy has something right now. Cameron Mayben is struggling man,

1053
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: and like no one expected him to be good because

1054
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: he's just not a very good player at the age

1055
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: he's at right now. But at least he hit the

1056
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: ball hard at the end. He just got unlucky, which

1057
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that, but he like

1058
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: lined it to McMahon. Yeah, deflected to the shortstop. They

1059
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: get McCann at home because McCann has to freeze on

1060
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: the line drive. I was like, ugh, Cameron Maybin literally

1061
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: can't do anything right. It's like I feel for the guy,

1062
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: well him to do well.

1063
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: But the big story from today's game, though, is mister

1064
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: Jose Parrazza, the King of the King of clutch.

1065
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: The dude is so good with the bases loaded. His

1066
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: numbers with the baseloader are laughable.

1067
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about him in Game three. We

1068
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: said it was the one nothing game. Jose Parazza was

1069
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: the one.

1070
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1071
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: The home run, Yeah, he won us the game. I

1072
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: think that's the only ball we put to the outfield.

1073
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: He like didn't even necessarily like hit it. That Grady

1074
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of like Lunders a little, but he was a

1075
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: little out in front of it and that ball just

1076
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: kept going.

1077
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: No one looked competent Game one at the plate except

1078
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: for Nito got a single and Parazza got the home run.

1079
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: Like that was it.

1080
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, Game four, they put up a stat with

1081
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: him with the bases loaded three fifteen lifetime average with

1082
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: the bases loaded. Jose Parrazza, who.

1083
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Even knows if that's like above league average with the

1084
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: bases loaded, because it's pretty getting here with the basis

1085
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 2: load is not the hardest thing at.

1086
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: The one that's above Mets average though.

1087
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, if there's a metsa one of the worst team's

1088
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: basic load in the history of baseball, I'll put my

1089
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: stamp on that. Mets students don't do shit with the

1090
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: basis loaded. Another funny stat that I heard from today's

1091
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: game Howie on the radio, was that the Mets have

1092
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: the most bases loaded walks in baseball, tied.

1093
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: With the Brewers, two teams that have really hard time

1094
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: scoring runs. You want to know why, because we walk

1095
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: with the bases loaded.

1096
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: But like it worked, got there, got the win. I

1097
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: thought it was cool that the Rockies decided to go

1098
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: to their seed team bullpen when they were only winning

1099
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: by one run in the fifth and sixth innings of

1100
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: this game. That was amazing.

1101
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: That was fun seeing Jordan Sheffield come out there and

1102
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: not know how to throw a strike.

1103
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: George. I didn't even know George Sheffield's baseball. When I

1104
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: saw Jay Sheffield was like, is that they get justice?

1105
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: They get justice? Sheffield in the tree, Like, why if

1106
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: the Rockies would have used Daniel Barr and Michael Gibbons

1107
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: and Robert Stevenson, they probably would have had a shot

1108
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: to actually win this game. I'm very glad grateful they

1109
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: chose not to, and it showed gave us Jordan Sheffield

1110
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: and Yancy Almonte, two guys who are not even competent.

1111
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: We saw that in that inning Jordan Sheffield, Archie Bell

1112
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and the Drells tightened up. Keith always likes to talk

1113
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: about that. He just he could not find the strikes,

1114
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: so he lost it at one point, and it was

1115
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: almost effectively wild because the Mets couldn't hit these pitches

1116
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: and Jordan Sheffield's very hit aable. It would have been

1117
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: great to put some balls in play because we had

1118
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: the bases loaded. But it's just like walk walk along

1119
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: at bat walk like it was a really really long ending.

1120
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: This game was just kind of like for seven innings

1121
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: it drained on man. Lukez on the mound just doesn't

1122
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: ever put anybody away quickly. He loves to start the

1123
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: counts behind Antonio Sen's a tellis stinks that guy's not

1124
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: very good. This game was not fun to watch if

1125
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: you were a fan of pitching. But if you were

1126
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: a Mets fan. It was great because the Mets won,

1127
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: and to be fair, Loop and Familia got the job

1128
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: done as well. Familia love him. Man, he's so good.

1129
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Those guys not it up, especially when we're committed to

1130
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: using the B and C. The B and C bullpens like.

1131
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: It was nice to see Loup Familia and then later

1132
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: on not kauzelmon. Of course he did not do well,

1133
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: but Barnes locked the door down. Like to see those

1134
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: guys step up is nice. We got full twenty six

1135
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven today. Which why can't Thomas the bookie pitch?

1136
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: Why can't why won't he pitch? Why isn't he pitch?

1137
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't get why he is the pitch?

1138
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: I have no clue. That beats me. Jacob Barnes. Maybe

1139
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: the wildest sat has two saves on the year. That's crazy.

1140
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear wild sad about saves? I'm

1141
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: looking at your notes about Kazelman not getting it done.

1142
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: But thank god we did have a quick hook, which

1143
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: is yes, get on true.

1144
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Thank you Rojas, by the way, thank you, that was

1145
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: great job. When this dude manages, he does a good job.

1146
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: I think Rojas have a very good series again.

1147
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, besides the Lukeazy thing. I can't really take him

1148
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: out for anything, but.

1149
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Seems like those Lukezy cues are coming from above.

1150
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: My dad says it's gotta be a script because it

1151
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: seems like they're very much like we have to get

1152
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: four I have Lukezy.

1153
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: No matter good or bad, we're getting four things that

1154
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: Joe Luke and I don't think Louis Rojas exactly in

1155
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 2: charge of that. But a crazy stat to talk about

1156
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: how far we've come in Metsland. In two twenty eighteen,

1157
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Robert Zelman had thirteen saves.

1158
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Yet thirteen saves?

1159
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: How crazy is that? Thirteen? He was the closer from

1160
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: most of the second half of that awful season. That is.

1161
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because we got rid of a we traded

1162
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: for Familia.

1163
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh my.

1164
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: Goodness, I forgot about that. Bobby Wall made that happen.

1165
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saved a couple of million, though after the

1166
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: Wolponts took that right to the bank.

1167
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course those rat fox But yeah, that is

1168
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: another interesting statistic to talk about here. Worth noting. My

1169
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: guy James McCann had a pretty good series while he

1170
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: didn't have you know, the average or the home runs

1171
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: or this or that. Well, yeah, I know, but I'm

1172
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: just saying, like, it was not a series that lit

1173
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: up the box score, but if you dive deeper into

1174
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: the numbers, it's really good things to see. Here. Five

1175
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: of the nine balls he hit into play were over

1176
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: ninety five miles an hour. And we have talked a

1177
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: lot about how prior to like two series ago, James

1178
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: and Canna had one barrel and it was the home

1179
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: run he hit. So he's starting to barrel up the

1180
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. He is having better at backs.

1181
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a positive. It's good. I like it.

1182
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to beat the player

1183
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: that we thought he was, but if he's at least

1184
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: hitting the ball hard, I can say with like some

1185
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: some certainty that he's not going up there and completely

1186
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: sucking shit. Like he is hitting the ball hard.

1187
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: This guy's not sucking shit. Yeah he did. He honestly,

1188
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: that play Monday night, that diving place seemed to take

1189
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: like a million pounds off his shoulders. He lighted up

1190
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: after that. He got the stupid hat thing that happened

1191
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: to him. Yeah, like something seemed to click with McCann.

1192
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: He had a very good hitting game after that. He

1193
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: looked good his entire series. I wasn't even like fuming

1194
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: mad that McCann got the second game start rather than

1195
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: e though, which is a big step for me.

1196
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: That is, that's huge for you, that's massive.

1197
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: So I think James McCann actually can be a competent

1198
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: hit of the rest of the season. The fact that

1199
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: he's playing good defensive first base is gravy.

1200
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: I guess the craziest thing of this whole whole year.

1201
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: I guess that we can have we can have to

1202
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: much need and James mcan both and why up together?

1203
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: Which if you would have put me in a time

1204
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: machine and I heard that quote two months ago, I

1205
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: would have told you to fuck yourself.

1206
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be like, what's wrong? What plays for?

1207
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: How many games have we lost?

1208
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: Not many? Because we are still in first place. We

1209
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: gained ground on the Phillies this week. A trash franchise

1210
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: they garbage city, filled with garbage people. Sorry, people Philadelphia

1211
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: who listened to this stand by that. I think it's

1212
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: a fine city and some of the people are decent.

1213
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, but we're still in first place. Two

1214
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: and a half games. I know you want touch a

1215
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: little bit more about some stuff with the Rockies here,

1216
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: but I feel like, let's just talk about the Braves

1217
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: real quick, that series coming up, and then we can

1218
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: kind of close it out here with what we're talking about,

1219
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: because we do need to talk some trades again with

1220
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: this Mets team, because it doesn't look like anybody's coming

1221
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: back anytime soon. No, but we got a big series

1222
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: with the Braves, three night games Sunday night Baseball. Sorry, guys,

1223
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: I hopefully will be at that game so I don't

1224
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: have to listen to or have my ears bleed from

1225
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: listening to a Rod and Mafas scursion talk about how

1226
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: home runs are rally killers and a three run lead

1227
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: is worse than a two run lead. But big series

1228
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: against the Braves. The Braves are playing probably the best

1229
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: baseball they've played all year, and we know that this

1230
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Mets team's just not very good right now, so it's

1231
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: not going to be easy. What are our matchups, James,

1232
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: what are we looking at?

1233
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: Well? We heard from Anthony Dicomo a couple of hours ago, honestly,

1234
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: mid game first, he tweeted this morning that Taiwan Walker

1235
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: was a candidate to pitch tomorrow night, which if your

1236
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: candidate to pitch tomorrow night, that's weird. Also said that

1237
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: it would be determined by a bullpen session today, so

1238
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: we said maybe Taiwan he threw a bullpen session today.

1239
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: As of two hours ago, he is going to pitch

1240
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: tomorrow night against the Braves night game. Big scary. I

1241
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: know this is a little scary Taiwan Knight, but last

1242
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: time he pitched at night he got injured against these

1243
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: very same Braves. That's weird. But we have Taiwan Peterson

1244
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: de gram to groam Sunday night, so that's gonna be

1245
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: at least watchable. There's only a New Day Redless to

1246
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: music or something, and then for it's Ian Anderson, Max

1247
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Free Charlie Morton. So the break the best three pitchers

1248
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: the Braves have. We're getting the a staff here. If

1249
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: we can find a way to split the Walker Peterson

1250
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: games and then just go into the ground with house money.

1251
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: Having early won one game, I will say we've won

1252
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: the series.

1253
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah no, Goya, keep it close, God, keep it closer

1254
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: to two and a half back now, I think so

1255
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: this like series a sweep puts them in first, which

1256
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: we don't want to have to deal with get one.

1257
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's the d grond game end one more, which

1258
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: would be really great. Holy crap, I'll freak out.

1259
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Taiwan or Peterson, one of those guys has to fig

1260
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: find it, got one out, get put this in position

1261
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: to win. I think they both will maybe actually not Peterson,

1262
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: because the Braids dominated left handed pitching.

1263
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: They're swingeing hot bats too. But Ozuna, I think, is

1264
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: not gonna be playing because he like fucked up his finger.

1265
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: No, he's out six weeks. That that was disgusting, that gross.

1266
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: Gross.

1267
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: He was just already to get hot too. And I

1268
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: don't want Mark Marcel's Zuna to get hot for like

1269
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: braives met sense, but I like Marcel' Zuna as a player,

1270
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: and fantasy baseball interest will also bleed into what I

1271
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: want to happen. He had this one in a hot

1272
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: at It's cool. He's not gonna play. The Braids are

1273
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: playing well. The Braids do not hit as well outside

1274
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: of Atlanta, and Land's a great hitting environment, yep, especially

1275
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: this year, definitely.

1276
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: And City Field does not play well this year.

1277
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't play well. Ever, it never does. But

1278
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: let's just find one these next two days. Just find one.

1279
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: Maybe the fact that like it's getting darker lay there,

1280
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: it'll be light for most of the time. Taiwan's on

1281
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: the mound tomorrow, I'm sure he won't go more than

1282
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: five innues anyway, for a star off the il, we'll

1283
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: probably see some Sean ree Foley.

1284
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even think about it that today. I

1285
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: didn't even think.

1286
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: About it as a bookie. So the fact is that

1287
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: they were probably planning a piggyback.

1288
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: For Walker, which, okay, I that gives me a little

1289
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: more insight into what Ross was thinking. I can almost

1290
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: support the decision more. I still don't, but I can

1291
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: start to see his process a little bit there. It

1292
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: would be great to take a series here from the Braves,

1293
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: but let's talk about now, because I don't think there's

1294
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: much else the Braves. We talked about them like a

1295
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 1: week ago.

1296
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: We know the Braves. Well, there's no one to watch.

1297
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: Everyone's aware of everybody here. We gotta beat this team,

1298
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: got beat this team. Exercise the demons.

1299
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Yes, but let's I guess do this as our little

1300
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: wrap up here. We need to figure out some spots.

1301
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: We need to figure out some guys that are going

1302
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: to come up, give us some fresh faces, some fresh bats,

1303
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: because I think Khalil Ly's probably close to being sent

1304
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: down just because right now he's a defensive replacement, which

1305
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: that's he's not be ready. He's gonna be fine. I

1306
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: got he's just not there yet. We knew that when

1307
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: we traded for him. But Cameron may been playing every

1308
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: day and possibly hitting third. That's problem third.

1309
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: Why did you ever hit third? I don't get that.

1310
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know either.

1311
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: It makes sense. Anybody in the media asked Luis Rojas,

1312
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: why is Cameron Maybeen hitting third again?

1313
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: Kimviern Mabn gets to make the lineup. I don't think

1314
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: he puts himself hitting third.

1315
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: Him maybe got to the doug out that team was like, oh.

1316
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: Snap, I'm for a dollar, I'm hitting third. How did

1317
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: that happen?

1318
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: I could even hint triple a. I think third, that's fun.

1319
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: He could be on the roster. He's fast, He at

1320
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: least has okay ish at bats sometimes.

1321
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is.

1322
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: A savvy major League Baseball professional that he's a professional

1323
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: at this point in game. He could do a lot

1324
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: of things to help your team win, none of them

1325
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: with a bat in his hands.

1326
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: Just yeah, no, nothing else like that. So we need

1327
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: to find some guys to fill in there. We need

1328
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: some help in the infield still like VR and Lindor

1329
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: have to have a day off at some point, have

1330
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: to be able to take a rest. And will Fredo

1331
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: Tovar can't be the guy. Fred Tvar can't be the

1332
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: guy to fill in. So I mean one guy that

1333
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: I've been super high on Jake Mangum, who's been in

1334
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: the minors for the Mets. He's an outfielder, so it

1335
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: doesn't really help the infield situation, but he's been you know,

1336
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: moving up. He got into what Double A now or

1337
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: is he in Brooklyn? What is he doing?

1338
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: He moved up to Double A.

1339
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Okay, moved up to Double A and he was he

1340
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: was crushing in Brooklyn, That's what it was. And I

1341
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: think he's off to a decent start in Double A

1342
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: as well. Definitely someone to circle keep an eye out for.

1343
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: He was a draft pick I think in eighteen or

1344
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: nineteen one of those seasons, so he's gotta be getting

1345
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: close to ready because he's gonna be like twenty four

1346
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: to twenty five.

1347
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: He was one of the Brody picks when we were

1348
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: kind of focusing on like older, more experienced players in

1349
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: the middle rounds, using all of our slot money to

1350
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: give to like high upside first round players, which was

1351
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: working for a period of time. Whatever. But he's been

1352
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: She's actually showed some pap at Double A so far,

1353
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: which leads me to believe that this is almost a

1354
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: test run where they're gonna give him ten games in

1355
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: Double A and see if he can actually hit major

1356
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: league pitching. I want the Mets to be doing this

1357
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: with more of their prospects, especially because we have a

1358
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: window right now where if we can remain afloat, keep

1359
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: our heads above water, it will give this team a

1360
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: much higher likelihood of competing for a championship. Which I'll

1361
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: say those words right now. Mets fans might want not

1362
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: want to hear that, but I think everyone in the

1363
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: front office still thinks that is still the goal for

1364
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: this team, the roster, that we have a full capacity,

1365
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: that's what they can do. Francisco Alparez moved from Low

1366
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: wayt Saint Lucy the High Brooklyn the other day. If

1367
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: he can handle the pitching in Hia over a two

1368
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: week stretch, I think that the Mesha, we look can

1369
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: be more aggressive. If he is in Brooklyn for a

1370
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and he's dominating that pitching and toying

1371
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: with them on base percentage above five hundred like he

1372
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: had in low Way, move him up again. The same,

1373
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 2: I would say, is true right now for Ronny Mauricio

1374
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: and Brett Baidy, who are also seemed to be toying

1375
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: with the pitching and Hie the pen League. I don't

1376
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: even know it's called the penleague anymore, because whatever Juan Solo

1377
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: wasn't won Solo until the Nationals moved him aggressively. Nether

1378
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: was Fernando Tatis. None of those guys, if Jtis was

1379
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: a little bit but not even really were consensus like

1380
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: top five prospects at the time of their ascent. If

1381
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: these guys are proving that they're dominant and they look

1382
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: to be potentially game changing talent, you have to be

1383
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: aggressive with them. We don't have the time, or the

1384
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: bodies or the resources to afford to let guys who

1385
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: could change our season move our bottom line up to

1386
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: stay in the minor leagues. We can't. And nineteen year

1387
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: olds and twenty year olds, twenty one year olds have

1388
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: been all over Major League baseball for the last couple

1389
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: of years. It can happen. We're not gonna ruin his

1390
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: development if he comes to the major League or moves

1391
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: moves up the system too quickly to hurt him. These

1392
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: guys aren't that fragile, I don't believe. So if they

1393
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: go up and they don't hit, you can move him

1394
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: back down. You can have to rebuild the confidence. We

1395
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: have to be creative and be aggressive for some of

1396
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: these guys right now.

1397
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, younger guys. It's not like the old days in

1398
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: baseball where he had to you know, you take your

1399
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: licks and you had to prove yourself and all this

1400
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Like these young guys can play just

1401
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: as good as any of these other dudes right now.

1402
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: Like I'm not necessarily saying Alvarez, Mauricio, those guys, but

1403
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: just we've seen the young talent come up, it's performed.

1404
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: Why not us, Why can't we have some of those

1405
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: guys too?

1406
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Exactly, these guys have all the makings to possibly bleed

1407
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: game breaking talent right now, like they do.

1408
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: And that's why being aggressive with them so important, because

1409
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: you're not like, keep giving them tests and if they

1410
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: keep passing it, that's great. This is a fantastic problem

1411
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: to have.

1412
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: No absolutely, and if we weren't ravaged by injuries, I

1413
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be saying this unless these guys were actually

1414
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: still doing the things they're doing at these levels, because

1415
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be an obvious knee er obvious

1416
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 2: situation to get elite talents the major leagues as quickly

1417
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: as possible, especially when your owner is a bajillionaire and

1418
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: service time hopefully is not much of an issue. Because

1419
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: besides those two, the only other depth that could be

1420
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: coming up near future is a guy named Mason Williams,

1421
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: who's a Syracuse right now, a twenty nine year old,

1422
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: a twenty nine year old journeyman who's played for the Yankees,

1423
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: the Reds, the Orioles. He has a pretty low k

1424
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: rate in the minor leagues right now, no power, which

1425
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: that means you're not really gonna again have power in

1426
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: the major leagues. You're not having a triple A. But

1427
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: those are the options right now. Either be aggressive with

1428
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: our league prospects at least try think outside the box,

1429
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: give it a shot, or get Mason Williams up or

1430
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: potentially make a trade.

1431
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: I would love to see some aggressive moves. I definitely would,

1432
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: and even on the trade market. We talked about it

1433
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: in text the rock He's got a lot of players

1434
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: that could be really interesting. I don't think we're gonna

1435
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: get Yan McMahon because I think there I think they're

1436
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: gonna I think they're gonna move McMahon this year, though,

1437
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: I do, and I think they're gonna get a shit

1438
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: ton back for him. He's gonna go to like a

1439
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: big contender and be a big piece. But they do

1440
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: have some other guys, some four A guys that could

1441
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: be interesting that I know you want to talk about

1442
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1443
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I would love to get McMahon, but we

1444
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: can't blow the bank for Ryan McMahon, Like I just

1445
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: don't know if there's like an obvious spot for him

1446
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: past a couple of months. But the guy who I

1447
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: would love to trade for from the Rockies not a hitter.

1448
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: But with the cinder guard news today that I am

1449
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: skeptical we even see him at all this year. You're not.

1450
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: Marquez dominates the Mets every time we face him. He's

1451
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: an ace at City Field. He's gonna cost a good

1452
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: amount of money but for a starting pitcher with that

1453
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, with multiple years of team control, I

1454
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: would love to see if we can put something together

1455
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: where our value matches what they want to give up,

1456
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: because it seems like the Rockies trade guys for shit.

1457
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: For nothing. They traded Nolan Arnado for nothing.

1458
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: Nothing, and then, like you look up and down this roster,

1459
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 2: you could pair a guy with Marquez, like a Garrett Hampson.

1460
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of series like Sam Hilliard who

1461
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to get in the field, but has

1462
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: apps physical tools. Jonathan Dazzla plays a competent outfield and

1463
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: he has decent at bats. Like there are people on

1464
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: c J. Cron doesn't really help us because the only

1465
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: position we don't need first base. Whatever, they're not gonna

1466
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: trade Fuente's, But there are guys on this roster, all

1467
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: of the other awful rosters in baseball, who can be

1468
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: able to pluck. Once the market becomes more robust, more

1469
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: teams are involved in buying there, not just the Mets.

1470
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: We're getting squeeze right now because the only team trying

1471
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: to buy. That's very obvious, which makes sense from like

1472
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: an economic perspective, from the other teams but yeah, Zax

1473
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: Guy said the other day he looked a shoveled in

1474
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: that press conference I think was Monday afternoon. He's like

1475
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: your best. I've been on the phone all day. His

1476
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: hair was kind of fucked up, his face was as

1477
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: red as yours. Like the guy's working. I like to

1478
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: see that. So I think if we keep bagging our

1479
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: heads here against this shit, we're gonna find a player.

1480
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: Something's gonna happen. We just have to keep floating, and

1481
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: this three games against the Braves are gonna be instrumental

1482
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: to the way this next month is played.

1483
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: And you know, it's crazy about all this stuff that

1484
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: we just talked about and all the worries and concerns

1485
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: and the ups and downs. This team is still in

1486
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: first place in the National League East, two and a

1487
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: half game lead, twenty four and twenty record, We have

1488
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: games in hand. It's fantastic. This team, as bad as

1489
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: it looks right now, is still in the driver's seat

1490
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: in the division. That's crazy. We're only gonna get better.

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Speaker 1: We really are only gonna get better, I think, from

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Speaker 1: here on out. And that's one thing if you're a

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Speaker 1: Mets fan, you gotta keep that in the back of

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Speaker 1: your head because we've seen some negativity reason and le

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Speaker 1: no reason for it. You know this, You know the

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Speaker 1: Mets are not gonna be as good as they should

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Speaker 1: be right now. Like, I don't know who's getting fooled

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Speaker 1: by this. Who expects to watch this Mets team and

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be indicative of how they're playing in September.

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Speaker 1: Like you have to be sorry for my friends here,

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Speaker 1: but you have to be a fucking idiot, like you

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Speaker 1: seriously have to be so fucking thick to think that

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Speaker 1: Cameron Mabin and Joe neshwe Fargas and uh Patrick Mazika

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Speaker 1: are gonna be starting in September and be like, well,

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Speaker 1: I told you, I told you so. You know we

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Speaker 1: should have been worried in May, Like, no, stop it,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get healthy, We're gonna be fine. And even

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Speaker 1: with we're still in first two and a.

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Speaker 2: Half games, two and a half games as long as

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Speaker 2: the Mets don't get swept this week, and we will

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Speaker 2: be in first again the next time we speak to

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Speaker 2: everybody here on Sunday night. Yep, let's hang our hat

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Speaker 2: on that. Let's go out in that high note. Still

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Speaker 2: in first, we're gonna remain in first, Let's keep chipping

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Speaker 2: away and finding ways to stay in these games.

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Speaker 1: Let's smack around these Atlanta Braves, which the division goes

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Speaker 1: through Atlanta right now, so I think that's the perfect

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Speaker 1: time for us to end. This is a lengthy episode,

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Speaker 1: one of our longest, but there really was so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about this episode, like just a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys coming back, intricacies, whatever it is. If you want

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Speaker 1: to listen to us, you know where to find us

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts. If you want to watch it,

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Speaker 1: we'll be on YouTube. Just search up mess Up Podcast,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel there. Follow us on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Instagram at mets up. You can follow James at Jeter

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Speaker 1: Had No Range, Me at Giraffe neck Mark. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for listening, Thank you guys for watching whatever you're

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Speaker 1: choosing to do, and we'll get back to you after

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Speaker 1: this brave series this weekend, hopefully feeling great. Thanks for listening, guys,

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Speaker 1: peace

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Speaker 2: See you next time.