WEBVTT - Kamala Shuts Down The DNC

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone media.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this is the last night of the DNC

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<v Speaker 2>episode or reporting from our homes now, which is great

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like death. Garrison Davis is here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie Lickdrman Robert Evans is here.

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<v Speaker 3>We more or less survived the DNZ. So if he

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<v Speaker 3>took a few hits there at the end. So the

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<v Speaker 3>DNC is over, it's wrapped up, it's all finished, Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiring in a very different way than the RNC, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean obviously a very different demographic. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that I noticed just as soon as I got

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<v Speaker 3>to the airport, Like when I got to the.

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<v Speaker 4>Gate for the RNC, it was like, oh, I'm here

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<v Speaker 4>for the r n.

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<v Speaker 3>C, And when I got to the gate for the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>it was, Oh, this is just a regular airport gate.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just normal people. There's a very broad demographic

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, pretty fairly would represent whatever city you

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<v Speaker 3>happen to come from. And in calling these people normal,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not saying they're necessarily good people, but they're normal people. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>they're into politics, maybe a little bit more than your

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<v Speaker 3>average person, but by and large they are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>regular people. And including shitty in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>ways that regular people are shitty about politics. Would that

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<v Speaker 3>be their views on Palestine, Gaza, queer people, But it's

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty pretty normal demographic base.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the difference between like when something and I

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<v Speaker 5>showed up at our gate for the RNC, we took

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<v Speaker 5>off our masks because the threat at that point was

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<v Speaker 5>being on a mask surrounded by Republicans. Yes, right, yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like the risk to our lives was greater than

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<v Speaker 2>the risk of COVID to our lives safety eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, whereas we just kind of treated the flights to

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<v Speaker 5>and from the DNC like normal flights, like like you'd

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<v Speaker 5>handle the normal precautions just regular people.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of that has to do with the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago's like a much larger city.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah sure, but yes.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean I got to the conversation with a

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<v Speaker 3>delegate from Georgia who was sitting right next to me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, young guy mid twenties. Very clearly everyone on

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<v Speaker 3>the plane was going to the DNC, at least for me,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I mean you just.

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<v Speaker 4>Had like a regular conversation, was it Little John? No, No, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 4>it was not okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 5>So if he little John as a senior citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's little John, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, he was this this young, kind of nominally

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<v Speaker 3>progressive Democrat who was excited this is I think, I

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<v Speaker 3>think his first time going excited to vote for Kamala,

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<v Speaker 3>much more excited about her than Joe. He also just

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<v Speaker 3>finished his college program to get a criminal justice degree.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, yeah, it's this is this is who

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<v Speaker 3>the Democratic Party is. Yeah, just random, kind of kind

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<v Speaker 3>of queer, but definitely sis dude, like gay dude, bisexual, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's gonna reform, reform that criminal justice from

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<v Speaker 3>the inside. Yeah, anyway, kind of I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>descorry about talking to this kind of those kind of

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<v Speaker 3>general convention demographics because that's basically the same it felt

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<v Speaker 3>well inside the convention as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, a lot more what I will say is a

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<v Speaker 5>lot more women who are like middle aged at the

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<v Speaker 5>d n C, Like that was the overwhelmingly most common

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<v Speaker 5>demographic on like at the convention that I noticed.

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<v Speaker 3>And probably more racial diversity than a lot of then

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of cities probably Honestly, Yeah, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good general sign, but it's not a great sign

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<v Speaker 3>just in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's it's good for kind of the general

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<v Speaker 3>future of this country, but it doesn't it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>affect many of the biggest problems that we're kind of addressing,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that be you know, gazo that, whether that be

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<v Speaker 3>police brutality, whether that be all all of these other things,

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<v Speaker 3>LGBTQ issues, the economy, right, like, that does not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>equal over onto any of those, at least at the DNC.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that is that is a general trend

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<v Speaker 3>that that that the country is heading towards. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>so there you go, and my god, was there a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people there was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was such an unhinged amount of people, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so much bigger and so much more crowded

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<v Speaker 5>than the DRNC.

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<v Speaker 2>I set this online when right wingers were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be like there was nobody there, which was like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're so dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>It was vastly more crowded.

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<v Speaker 2>But like at the R and C, most of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>we generally had an entire road to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was always easy to find seating.

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<v Speaker 3>Super eased to find a spot to sit any time

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<v Speaker 3>during the R and C. Not true for the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>very challenging to find a seat, and this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>brings us to the last day of the convention.

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<v Speaker 4>Horrible.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The three of us wrap up a very nice dinner

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<v Speaker 3>with mister Vermin Supreme lovely, possibly the most ethical presidential

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<v Speaker 3>candidate this year.

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<v Speaker 5>The only presidential candidate who has been maced with a

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<v Speaker 5>member of the Cool Zone media team. We can say

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<v Speaker 5>that much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we have a great to dinner with them.

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<v Speaker 3>We walked over to the DNC, mass massive lines coming outside,

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<v Speaker 3>terrible and then we get told it's okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>special press entry, so we bypass all those lines. We

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<v Speaker 3>are feeling great, We are feeling like gods, just passing

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<v Speaker 3>by hundreds and hundreds of people waiting waiting line to

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<v Speaker 3>get the DNC. It was a very powerful feeling. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never felt that empowered before.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Garrison, Oh you sweet summer child.

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<v Speaker 4>It was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really a rush that can't be described.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I almost didn't want to let you guys know

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<v Speaker 5>that the whole venue is at capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>So we get up to the door after just breezing through,

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<v Speaker 3>going past all of those lines, and we get to

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<v Speaker 3>the door and all the doors are shut. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>secret Service at every entrance saying that nobody can get

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<v Speaker 3>in because the venue is at capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>And the crash, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, the crash that we had from our high

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<v Speaker 3>so so bad.

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to a couple of police officers outside the

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<v Speaker 5>venue who were like, yeah, the fire marshals are here,

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<v Speaker 5>like it was literally I do think that it from

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<v Speaker 5>and from everything I've read since, I think their reboarding

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<v Speaker 5>was accurate. Yes, like there were just more people than

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<v Speaker 5>were allowed to be in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>They definitely let more people in than they should have. Yeah, however,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a group of journalists with Garrison and myself

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<v Speaker 2>that were waiting to be let in, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>like triple the amount of people to journalists that left

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<v Speaker 2>in the time that we were standing there, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a very long time. And let me just say, the

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<v Speaker 2>secret service officer really enjoyed telling a bunch of journalists

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<v Speaker 2>that we couldn't come in. He was having a great

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<v Speaker 2>night ruining our night.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's nothing that makes me happier than making

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<v Speaker 5>a journalist miserable. So I actually do feel some solidarity there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I would love to tell a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>journalists fuck you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was certainly skeptical because of just how many people

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<v Speaker 3>were getting let out, because I really wanted to see

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<v Speaker 3>how full the venue actually was. And after waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>nearly for two hours, two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hours, two hours, I went home.

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<v Speaker 4>Pablo's speech already started.

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<v Speaker 2>I abandoned you, and then some media logistics person from

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<v Speaker 2>the Secret Service entrance every five minutes would point at

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<v Speaker 2>ten people like they were the chosen ones to let them.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the arena.

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<v Speaker 2>And on round three or four, Garre and I did

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<v Speaker 2>in fact get in and run up like seven or

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<v Speaker 2>eight flights of stairs, which I'm still feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>You made the cut. You made the cut. We did.

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<v Speaker 5>I bet Tim Walls whispered your very names into the

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<v Speaker 5>ears of that Secret Service agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I do feel like a piece of me is

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<v Speaker 2>still on those stairs because it was brutal.

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<v Speaker 4>It was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we got up to kind of the floor

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<v Speaker 3>of the arena that we usually entered into and they

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<v Speaker 3>were not lying. It was way too full. There was

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<v Speaker 3>not a single seat available. People were standing in the

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<v Speaker 3>fire exits, people were standing on the stairs and the

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<v Speaker 3>hallways inside the actual arena. It was it was, in

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<v Speaker 3>fact a real safety hazard.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do really feel the need emphasize not one

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<v Speaker 5>of those things where the cops were fucking over the

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<v Speaker 5>press or whatever for their own It was a serious issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we saw firefighters inspecting the hallways and letting a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of fire code violations fly. Yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to be standing in the middle of that stairwell.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah we got inside just in time for the

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<v Speaker 3>foreign policy, border patrol, and geopolitics section of Kamalis's speech.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will talk about her speech, including those aspects,

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<v Speaker 3>right after we come back from this ad break.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>The final speech of the DNC arguably the most important one,

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<v Speaker 3>although the DNC just went on for so long that

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<v Speaker 3>I was so checked out by that last day.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it was just Bill Clinton's nine hour speech where

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<v Speaker 2>he just was just the oldest man who's ever lived.

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<v Speaker 5>No, he's convinced me. You know, I watched last night

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<v Speaker 5>several episodes of the show about him committing a sex

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<v Speaker 5>crime as the president, and it really reminded me. Boy

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<v Speaker 5>slick Willy's gotten old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for music. My dad's nickname for Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton on Mike Click Willy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's every dad's nickname for Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad loves to call him that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, Garrison, we got up there. We are standing in

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<v Speaker 2>a crowd of journalists just trying to get a glimpse

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<v Speaker 2>of what's going on. And is there any particular part

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<v Speaker 2>of the speech you want to talk about, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a few things that come to mind for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I have notes on like the whole speech,

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, a few lines from each little section.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this.

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<v Speaker 3>Speech was more important than most of Trump's speeches because

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<v Speaker 3>we've heard Trump speak, you know, a bajillion times now.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say Trump's R and C speech was important

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<v Speaker 3>because this was his first speech after getting shot at

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<v Speaker 3>in the head. And similarly, I think this speech for

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<v Speaker 3>Kamlo was extremely important because this is basically her second

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<v Speaker 3>presidential speech. The speech she's been using for her campaign

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<v Speaker 3>trail has been the same stump speech for the past month.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been the same one that delivered many times, which

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<v Speaker 3>is not a regular but this is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>we've really heard her do a new speech, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is her introduction as a presidential candidate to the entire world.

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<v Speaker 3>As she took the stage, there's obviously tons of cheers

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<v Speaker 3>chants of usay she opened by praising Biden's record and

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<v Speaker 3>his character, saying that history will will prove him to

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<v Speaker 3>have such a great record and character, and then she

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<v Speaker 3>framed her own personal story as like a template of

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<v Speaker 3>like the American journey, right, saying, quote, I'm no stranger

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<v Speaker 3>to unlikely.

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<v Speaker 4>Journeys unquote Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>She talked about her mother as an immigrant, saying her

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<v Speaker 3>parents met at a civil rights gathering and that her

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<v Speaker 3>dad taught her to be fearless, although her dad also,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess probably failed to teach her how to be

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<v Speaker 3>a good Marxist, but she did not bring that part

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<v Speaker 3>up in this speech.

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<v Speaker 5>Relationship, but we all get to have.

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<v Speaker 3>One, yes, But her parents taught her and her sister

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<v Speaker 3>about you know, different different civil rights leaders, including civil

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<v Speaker 3>rights lawyers that fought civil rights in court, and Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>said this is what inspired her to go to law school.

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<v Speaker 3>Although you know, very famously, she did not become like

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<v Speaker 3>a civil rights lawyer. She became a prosecutor. And Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>said that this was inspired by her high school best

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<v Speaker 3>friend getting molested by her stepfather and that's what got

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<v Speaker 3>her to want to go down the prosecutor path.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the first time that I had ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>her talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I hadn't heard that either.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally did a few other times, obviously not on

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<v Speaker 2>that large of a stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, No, there was a lot of talk about that,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of talk about her focus on like

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<v Speaker 3>familial sexual abuse, molestation and other sex crimes as a prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 3>like basically framing that as like her specialty and that

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<v Speaker 3>that was a good part of what she focused on,

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<v Speaker 3>which she was a court prie. The line that she

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<v Speaker 3>used to refer to her work in the court was

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<v Speaker 3>that quote, everyone has a right to safety, dignity, and justice.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was kind of the introduction to Kamala and

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<v Speaker 3>her background. That was like who she was, where she

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<v Speaker 3>came from. And then the speech pivoted to talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Orange Man Bad, which worked very well in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we're going to see more of that

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<v Speaker 3>the closer we get to the election.

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<v Speaker 5>One way or the other. Is the last time you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get to make hay out of it, and so

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<v Speaker 5>you might as well do that while the sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, honestly, that was the general theme of the DNC

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<v Speaker 2>speeches for me, was like orange.

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<v Speaker 5>Man Bad, we got one last shot we can be.

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<v Speaker 4>Good for you, be good with us. We're good Orange

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<v Speaker 4>Man bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's even less that they want to be elected to

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<v Speaker 3>make any actual progressive change. It's that in order to

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<v Speaker 3>do that in the future, we first need to beat

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. And that was kind of the guiding the

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<v Speaker 3>guiding principle of most of the DNC and Kamala's speech.

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<v Speaker 3>She called this election of a fight for America's future.

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<v Speaker 5>It's infuriating that, like we deal with this again right

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<v Speaker 5>where we have to like sit down and knock the

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans out and end a chunk of the conservative ideology

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<v Speaker 5>in this country because literally nothing can progress without doing that,

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<v Speaker 5>and we still can't handle the more fundamental problems. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that's that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she talked a lot about voting rights, saying

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump tried to throw away your vote and when

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't work, he directed an armed mob to the

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<v Speaker 3>capital to overthrow the election. She talked about how Trump

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<v Speaker 3>wants to deploy the military against protests, although she said

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to play the military against quote our own citizens,

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<v Speaker 3>but this was in reference to him wanting to deploy

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<v Speaker 3>the military against protests, and she framed the Supreme Court's

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<v Speaker 3>new ruling to give president's immunity in court from criminal prosecution,

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<v Speaker 3>as imagining Trump, but now without any guard rails, which

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<v Speaker 3>of course is very scary. And part of this is

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<v Speaker 3>Project twenty twenty five again trying to reiterate this as

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican's playbook in case Trump is able to get

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<v Speaker 3>back into office. Mentions of Project twenty twenty five starting

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<v Speaker 3>a series of we are not going back chance, which

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<v Speaker 3>I think is probably some of the best messaging the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats have the option of deploying this go around. I

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<v Speaker 3>know there was an upper Democratic strategist who has been

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<v Speaker 3>meeting with the Kamala team who said that this messaging

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work because it's too vague and too negative and

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<v Speaker 3>not enough focused on the future. And thankfully the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least Kamala's team, did not listen to that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>because that is the most wrong a man has ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>This messaging has been playing very well in person at

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<v Speaker 3>all these rallies, and especially at the DNC. Kamala talked

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about economics, saying, quote, we are charting

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<v Speaker 3>a future towards a strong and growing middle class unquote

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<v Speaker 3>end quote, We will build an opportunity economy where everyone

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<v Speaker 3>has a chance to compete and a chance to succeed unquote, which.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess is fine. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a few kind of issues with this, mainly

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<v Speaker 3>like what happens when you don't succeed and what happens

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<v Speaker 3>to the lower class. Throughout the entirety of the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of talk about growing a strong

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<v Speaker 3>middle class and a big focus on the middle class,

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<v Speaker 3>but very little focused on actually helping the people that

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<v Speaker 3>are having it the hardest in this country instead really

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<v Speaker 3>really catering to like the middle class voter, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know's it's like, there's a lot of talk about labor.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot talking about like working people, like workers' rights.

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<v Speaker 3>That stuff all has a pretty big spotlight at the

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<v Speaker 3>DNC this year, but very little mentions of how we

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<v Speaker 3>can actually improve life for the lower class. She did

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<v Speaker 3>talk about, you know, very vague gestures towards lowering the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of everyday needs, but so far she's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>yet to unveil any actual solid policies. Really we have

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<v Speaker 3>that first time home home buyers like twenty five K.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's proposed some details on like how to help

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<v Speaker 5>increase the number of first time home buyers and build

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<v Speaker 5>an addition of like three million homes in the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's been some but it is all kind of

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<v Speaker 5>vague at this point. Now. One thing that they do

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<v Speaker 5>have going for them is when the dims say, like

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to cut inflation. You know, we've seen inflation

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<v Speaker 5>drop from the post pandemic highs over the last couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years to the point where it's at now, So

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<v Speaker 5>like that is that, you know, there's there's a leg

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<v Speaker 5>to stand on there. And in general, I actually think

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<v Speaker 5>one of the better economic points was made by Clinton

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<v Speaker 5>during his speech, which is that, like, the vast majority

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<v Speaker 5>of jobs that have been created over all of our

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<v Speaker 5>lifetimes have been created under democratic presidents, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you can't if like that's your voting issue. The

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<v Speaker 5>polls are also moving in the direction of that. People

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<v Speaker 5>seem to be trusting Kamala more on the economy, and

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<v Speaker 5>they trusted Biden, even though there's not really a perfectly

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<v Speaker 5>logical reason to do that. But this is elections aren't

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<v Speaker 5>about logic, right, like no es, They're about vibes. In

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of ways, They're about vibes, and I do

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<v Speaker 5>think the dims. I think the dims have that actually,

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<v Speaker 5>like the good head wins on and now a lot

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<v Speaker 5>can change in the next seventy days or so. What

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<v Speaker 5>I really saw with this speech and with this convention

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<v Speaker 5>as a whole, was the Democratic Party embracing the middle

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<v Speaker 5>and some conservatives. And yeah, they tried not to be

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<v Speaker 5>too directly abrasive to progressives and the left.

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<v Speaker 4>But they weren't catering to them.

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<v Speaker 5>But they were not catering to it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala did attack Trump on taxes, specifically saying that trumpill

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<v Speaker 3>do tax breaks to his billionaire friends, it'll add a

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<v Speaker 3>five trillion into the national debt, and she called Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>tariff proposal basically a national sales tax or a Trump

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<v Speaker 3>tax that'll raise costs for middle class families by up

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<v Speaker 3>to four thousand dollars a year, which is in line

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<v Speaker 3>with the whole bunch of economists' predictions if Trump's tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>do go through, and then again gesturing to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>vague policy ideas without actually proposing strict policies, saying that quote,

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<v Speaker 3>we will provide access to capital for entrepreneurs, small business owners,

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<v Speaker 3>and founders, warning that Trump will ban abortion pills and

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<v Speaker 3>enact a national abortion ban and force the states to

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<v Speaker 3>report on people's abortions and miscarriages, and instead, Kamala will

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<v Speaker 3>sign into law a bill that protects abortion access nationally,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as calling to pass the John Lewis Voting

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<v Speaker 3>Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act and more

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<v Speaker 3>kind of vague gestures towards protecting the freedom to love

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<v Speaker 3>who you love, to have clean air and clean water,

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<v Speaker 3>and the freedom that unlocks all others, the freedom to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's kind of the most of the domestic

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<v Speaker 3>policy section of the speech, and that is the part

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<v Speaker 3>of the speech that we missed. And then we came

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<v Speaker 3>in right as she started talking about the border, saying

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<v Speaker 3>again that, like many others have talked about the DNC,

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<v Speaker 3>how the Democrats and Republicans work together to write the

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<v Speaker 3>strongest border bill in decades. And Kamala said that this

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<v Speaker 3>bill was endorsed by the Border Patrol which it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was endorsed by the Border Patrol Union, but who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>And Comma talked about how Trump called Republicans to kill

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<v Speaker 3>the bills that Democrats couldn't take credit, and she promised

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<v Speaker 3>that she will bring back this bill and sign it

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<v Speaker 3>into law, saying that quote, we can create an earned

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<v Speaker 3>pathway to citizenship and secure our border unquote. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of the areas that Democrats I think

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<v Speaker 3>have lost the most amount of ground on the past

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<v Speaker 3>like eight years, and they are still kind of willing

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<v Speaker 3>to seed it. And then in terms of like geopolitics

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<v Speaker 3>and foreign policy, one line of kmmalist that has kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cotton some flak, but also I don't know, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just read it, we can talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>She said that quote, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting

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<v Speaker 3>force in the world unquote.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So did you guys, what did you think by

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<v Speaker 5>the use of that language.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was trying to appeal to the voters

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<v Speaker 2>that don't think a woman can lead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the end of my sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh interesting, I feel very differently.

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<v Speaker 3>I found this as being a reaction to right wing

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<v Speaker 3>and centrist attacks kind of questioning her strength as a leader.

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<v Speaker 3>So she went for very very like intense language on this.

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<v Speaker 5>So I feel very differently about that, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>this may be just due to the fact that I've

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<v Speaker 5>kind of some more experience with how people in the

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<v Speaker 5>NATSK space speak because the phrasing that she used, it's

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<v Speaker 5>been lampooned a lot online. We've all had a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of some bits about you know, talking about I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want a lethal the most lethal military in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I want this or that, but like that's what the

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<v Speaker 4>military does.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, Well, lethality is also a meme term, right, like

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<v Speaker 5>it like that, that's the way it is used in

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<v Speaker 5>this space. Like if you go to like speeches where

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<v Speaker 5>people who are involved in any level as contractors in

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<v Speaker 5>the military industrial complex making arms working for like, it

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<v Speaker 5>is all about when they're talking about like improving efficiency

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<v Speaker 5>within the Air Force, it's about lethality, right, we are

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<v Speaker 5>increasing lethality, like that is our goal. That's what we're

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<v Speaker 5>doing here today, because that is the measure by which

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<v Speaker 5>you determine the success of the organization. So what I

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<v Speaker 5>saw Harris as doing by using that specific terminology was

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<v Speaker 5>not I am trying to talk extra hard in order

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<v Speaker 5>to burnish my credentials because conservatives are going to attack me.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Trump is actually kind of weak on the

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<v Speaker 5>national security stuff, especially within the community of people who

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<v Speaker 5>are like Natsek Gools. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The people who are members who are born and raised

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<v Speaker 5>members like my family, a lot of them, of the

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<v Speaker 5>military industrial complex, the people who have their professions in

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<v Speaker 5>that space, right, they actually don't all like Trump a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>And some evidence of that was recently he made some

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<v Speaker 5>statements where he essentially insulted Medal of Honor recipients that

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<v Speaker 5>like the VFW came out and attacked Trump, which is wild,

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<v Speaker 5>like absolutely unpropsed.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's a little but I definitely agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Robert, but I do think it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of what Gar and I were talking about as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Another another thing that I'm just thinking of, as Robert

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, it's just how how often Trump has said that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the war, the war in Ukraine wouldn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>if he was in office, that like, he putn't scared

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<v Speaker 2>of him, and things like that, as like one of

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<v Speaker 2>his main reasons why we should reelect him is because

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<v Speaker 2>he commands authority and nobody, nobody did anything bad when

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<v Speaker 2>he was in power. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that has to do with Kamala's language choice.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it's she said what she said, because

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<v Speaker 5>it was a way of expressing like.

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<v Speaker 3>Like an internal signifier to other people in the natsock space.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was a way

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<v Speaker 5>of saying that I am not just I'm not an outsider,

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<v Speaker 5>I am a professional. I understand and speak about this

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<v Speaker 5>the same way that you guys do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, right, no, I can I can see that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the whole speech I kind of saw in

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<v Speaker 5>those terms. It was very much calculated. I could see

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<v Speaker 5>who they were trying to get with that speech. There

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<v Speaker 5>was a bit in there for everybody, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get kind of those moderate chunks of every

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<v Speaker 5>gurban crisin, moderate chunks of the people whose primary issue

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<v Speaker 5>is Gaza, right, because there is a chunk of the

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<v Speaker 5>people who's who are mostly concerned this election with what

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<v Speaker 5>the fuck we're going to do about Gaza, but also

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<v Speaker 5>are not you know, hardline communists or whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>are people who, like the uncommitted folks, really want to

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<v Speaker 5>embrace the Democratic Party and are maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>People who still believe in the system what want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Just need a little bit of a lie that they

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<v Speaker 5>can go along with to vote right, Like Kamala was

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<v Speaker 5>attempting to kind of give because she didn't announce a

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<v Speaker 5>substantive change in policy. Now, her verbiage on Gaza in

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<v Speaker 5>this speech was the same as the kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that like Obama was saying honestly, like ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Gary, do you have a quote of what she said?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But first of let's head to our last ad break

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<v Speaker 1>real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's talk about her closing remarks relating on

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<v Speaker 3>foreign policy and Palestine. I guess there's a few other

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<v Speaker 3>kind of general foreign policy things, yeah, saying that under

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<v Speaker 3>her watch, quote, we will lead the world into the

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<v Speaker 3>future on space and artificial intelligence. America, not China, will

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<v Speaker 3>win the competition for the twenty first century unquote. She

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<v Speaker 3>framed Trump as an ally of Russia and Putin, and

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<v Speaker 3>she claimed that she will help us quote stand strong

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<v Speaker 3>with Ukraine and our NATO allies. And then finally, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the last things she talked about was Israel Palestine, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>President Biden and I are working around the clock. Now

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<v Speaker 3>is the time to get a hostage deal done and

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<v Speaker 3>a ceasefire deal done. This had a decent sized cheer.

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<v Speaker 3>She followed this up by saying, quote, we will always

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<v Speaker 3>stand for Israel's right to defend itself and ensure Israel

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<v Speaker 3>has the ability to defend itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this signals mostly to people that it's unlikely

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 3>she will adopt anything resembling an arms embargo. And there

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of internal pressure from the uncommitted folks,

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<v Speaker 3>people who got into the DNC trying to push on

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<v Speaker 3>this topic, specifically because Democrats are now kind of adopted

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<v Speaker 3>kind of vague ceasefire rhetoric. Now, the goalpost does need

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<v Speaker 3>to be shifted towards something that will actually stop the

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<v Speaker 3>bombing of families inside Gaza, and that is an arms embargo,

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of conditions on the way that bombs and

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 3>weapons are going to be used. And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>line signified that that is probably not going to take

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<v Speaker 3>place at least before the election.

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<v Speaker 1>No, definitely not before the election.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, that's very clear at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>And she kind of both sides this issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Her last quote was quote what has happened in

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza over the past ten months is devastating. So many

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 3>innocent lives lost, desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety over

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 3>and over again. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 5>Whom is making them do this.

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<v Speaker 3>President Biden and I are working to end this war

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<v Speaker 3>such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the

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<v Speaker 3>suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize

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<v Speaker 3>their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self determination unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was followed by what I would call the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest cheers of the entire night.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was about I was about to say, the

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>crowd reaction was massive to.

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 3>That people lost it so much bigger cheers than saying

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 3>we will ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 3>This closing line about dignity, security, freedom, and self determination

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<v Speaker 3>for the Palestinian people got by far the biggest cheers.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, what does it mean? Like what are you

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 4>actually saying?

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:43.719
<v Speaker 1>It means nothing?

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean what all of that means to me is

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 5>that like Democrats, because they are normal people, they're not Republicans,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 5>they know how bad all this is.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 4>They hate it, they are mad at it, and Yahoo,

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 4>you only really.

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<v Speaker 5>Need to see a couple of war crime videos to

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<v Speaker 5>know that, like what happened is happening over there is ghastly.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 5>They also aren't willing to like nuke their lives and

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 5>a lot of other people's lives to let Trump back in, right.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 3>And I do believe they genuinely view Israel as an

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>extremely important ally in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they think that this could be fixed, right

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 5>because like we did some awful stuff in Iraq, but

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 5>then we elected Bobama and everything got better, right or

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 5>something like that. Yeah.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean like they don't like Netan Yahoo. The

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Badian admin doesn't like that Yahoo because he's not efficient

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 3>at war. He's efficient at doing like like an ethnic cleansing,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 3>he's efficient at doing wide civilian casualties, but he's not

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>good at actually like fighting this war very well. This

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>is something that like Biden's team has consistently not been

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>thrilled by, but they're not going to do much about it.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Kind of the last foreign policy line that she had was, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I will never hesitate to take whatever action is necessary

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>to defend our forces and our interests against Iran and

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Iran backed terrorists, and will not cozy up to irants

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and dictators like Kim Jong un who are rooting for

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Trump unquote. And I think basically this ties into a

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of rhetoric that I've seen throughout the DNC

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 3>including from speakers, speakers who are either vets or active military.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>That seems to be kind of slowly preparing the Democratic

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Party for another war, for some kind of on the

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 3>ground activity in the Middle East, whether that be in Lebanon,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 3>whether that be in Iran. It's like they're slowly just

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 3>prepping us for the possibility of war or invasion.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that does seem likely.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 3>This is a big part of like the Democratic Party's

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 3>official like a policy platform on Palestine, which they did

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 3>release during the DNC, and a big part of that

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>is about is talking about how important Israel is as

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 3>a Middle East ally.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 5>Where will we fly our planes over.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>If they ever need to put troops on the ground.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think that is so much of why they're

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 3>unwilling to budge on anything resembling like an actual ceasefire

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 3>or an arms embargo is because they view this as

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 3>like a real possibility. Anyway, that was that was this speech.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>The balloons dropped. Everyone lost their minds. Yep, it's not

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a cult in the same way.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 5>But there's there's you can see one building.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the party is a cult, but it's not a

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Kamala cult the same way the GOP is now a

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Trump cult, right, like the Republicans are now a Trump cult.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 4>It is.

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 3>It is not a cult of like who is the

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 3>leader in the DNC, but it is more of a

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>cult of like ideology, which I guess the Republicans just

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>don't even have anymore.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 5>It's not even that it's it's a cult of uh.

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 5>I think I would describe it as defensive cult making.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Democrats have been so bewildered and frightened by the momentum

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 5>that Trump and his people have had over the last decade,

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 5>and they have like responded in part by adapting some

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 5>aspects of like the cultic milieu to wrap around these

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 5>ideas that like are are safe to them like that.

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 5>That's a big part of the appeal of that don't

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>go back champ right, which I think is a smart

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 5>bit of politics, and I think actually it has the

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 5>potential to save quite a bit of lives, particularly at

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 5>least of like queer trans people in the United States.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 5>So I'm not saying this is bad politics, but there

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 5>is a level of cultiness to that where you are

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 5>kind of enrapturing people with this possibility of constant forward

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 5>motion that we all know doesn't feel as true as

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 5>it felt in twenties fifteen or fourteen. You know, it

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 5>doesn't feel as possible as it felt in twenty twelve

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 5>or two thousand and eight, that they're kind of trying

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 5>to sell people on if we can just get over

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 5>the hurdle of these Republicans, right, we can get back

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 5>to the period where like things felt like we were

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 5>all moving in the right direction, and that's magical thinking, Yeah.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 4>We can get back to a period of steady progress.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 5>I try to be even about this because as I

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 5>wrote that episode, the fucking don't panic episode, because I

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 5>was looking at people's talking on Reddit and in Twitter

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 5>and just in real life and being like, I think

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 5>some folks might kill themselves soon, yeah, out of fear

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 5>of the Republicans. So I really hope no one reads

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying is like, Ah, these stupid libs and

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 5>their hope fetish. It's like no, no, no, But it's

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 5>still a cultic belief. It's not rational. It may be

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 5>necessary sometimes irrational beliefs are necessary, sure, but there's not

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 5>a good reason for it yet. And don't fall too far,

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 5>like fall, try not to fall further down that hole.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Then you need to fall in order to keep yourself

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 5>alive for the next eight months.

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 3>So, even though Trump has spoke a lot the past

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>eight years, his speech at the ERNC, I think was

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>important because it was the first one post assassination. His

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>viewership for that speech peaked at twenty eight point four million.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Viewership for Kamala's speech Thursday night peaked at twenty eight

0:31:55.800 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>point nine million. So she edged him out barely, at

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>least in terms of peak numbers, by about five hundred

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 3>thousand views.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Very even, very even, yeah.

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Very even.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>And again, like Khan was not spoken tons, there's a

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of people of tuning in to see what she

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>sounds like, kind of for the first time on a

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 3>big national platform. And meanwhile, I think people are just

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 3>briefly tuning into Trump just to see what he's like

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 3>after getting shot in the head. And I will read

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 3>a few of Trump's tweets of well.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 5>He's not doing well. He's not doing well at all.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Man, was he spiraling?

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, from combless speech he just started by

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>all caps?

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Is she talking about me?

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Excellent? Incredible stuff. Donald, buddy, I can tell you're slipping

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 5>because four years ago you'd tried to tweet that out.

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 5>You wouldn't have had to hear it from someone. There

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 5>would have been a voice in your own head before

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 5>you press sin that would have been like, don't do that, Donnie,

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 5>come on, Donnie, come on, come on, You're better than.

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 3>This quote too many thank yous, too rapidly said what's

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>going on with her? Followed by one minute later in

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>all caps, where's hunter see again?

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 5>That his prime It would have been something. It would

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 5>have been something like loopy hair or shit, some shit.

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 5>He would have made some sort of insulting remark about

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 5>her personal appearance and ignored the rest of the speech.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 3>One one minute later, Walls was an assistant coach, not

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 3>a coach.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 5>That's such a weak.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Very funny, very funny, oh thing.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Most American men have been on a sports team, and

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 5>we all know you just call them all coach.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Everyone is like coach.

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 5>They're just all coach. You don't say assistant coach. No

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 5>player in a football team is everything like, hey, assistant coach,

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 5>could you come over here? Like that's just not the

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 5>way people are.

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>No wow, anything else.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>A few months ago we did an episode talking about

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of polls that it is now largely outdated because

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Biden's no longer in the race, but we did talk

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>about how most people's pick for president was literally anybody else.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>We saw one booth at the DNC protest that was

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 3>literally anyone else themed booth, And oh boy, do I

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>have news for you, buddy, the news. But we do

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>have some polling data kind of on how satisfied people

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 3>feel based on their choices for this presidential election. Now,

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 3>obviously that there's a small post convention bump for Harris,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 3>but that that kind of usually tapers off.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 4>But in terms of their satisfaction.

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Of the candidacy options, in May, only fifty five percent

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 3>of Democrats said they were satisfied. Now seventy nine percent

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 3>say they're satisfied. Massive And for Republicans, back in May,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 3>sixty eight were satisfied and now seventy four are satisfied.

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<v Speaker 3>So but both are moving towards higher satisfaction. And obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the giant shift in Democrat numbers is is because of

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala now and they're more satisfied with her than Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be with Trump, which is which is an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting stat and this is based on a New York

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<v Speaker 3>Times to see in a College poll of registered vote

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<v Speaker 3>in Arizona, Georgia, Nomada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>just a few interesting a few interesting little notes there

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<v Speaker 3>as we close out this week talking about the DNC.

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<v Speaker 3>And then finally I have one kind of little funny anecdote.

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<v Speaker 3>As we were leaving the DNC after Kamala's speech, means

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<v Speaker 3>so iph he was walking around this area of Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get far enough away from the convention center

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<v Speaker 3>to get newber And I saw this guy maybe in

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<v Speaker 3>his like oh so funny, probably in his twenties, who

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<v Speaker 3>was either about to block up or just de blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can tell because he's wearing the pants he's wearing.

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<v Speaker 5>Doc martins Garrison is referring to someone who has just

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<v Speaker 5>taken off their black block as in the traditional kind

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<v Speaker 5>of anarchist protest garb, and put on normal street clothes

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<v Speaker 5>so as to escape from a police cordon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So this this guy was walking around either about to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the protest or just left still had the

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<v Speaker 3>Doc martins On had like the backpack full of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And as he walked by me, I just almost instinctively,

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<v Speaker 3>like without thinking at all, this was this was this

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't on purpose, just instinctively, I kind of muttered to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you are and and he heard this

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<v Speaker 3>and like turned around looking kind of like confused or concern,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just had to I had to turn around.

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<v Speaker 3>I just gave him a smile and a thumbs up,

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<v Speaker 3>and he smiled back and kept and kept walking on.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was my last interaction at the DNC, just

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit of using to me. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a protest of around similar numbers to Mondays, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like three thousand, two thousand people for kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>last march on the DNC last Thursday. So there was

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<v Speaker 3>another one of these big kind of coalition led marches Uly.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not far from Monday's numbers actually, which was

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<v Speaker 5>which was impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty close, pretty close, but they did not reach the

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<v Speaker 3>fence on like last time. A small section of them

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<v Speaker 3>did not break off from the protest marshals and bypass

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<v Speaker 3>a section of the fence on like like Monday, which

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<v Speaker 3>did cause significant disruptions, but disruptions were not needed because

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<v Speaker 3>the DNC disrupted itself by overbooking the venue and having

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<v Speaker 3>way too many people.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go. That was the DNC I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>glad it's over. Me too.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really glad it's over too, And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 5>until twenty twenty eight when we all get to be

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<v Speaker 5>together again to cover the next election. If there is.

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<v Speaker 3>One, Comrade AOC proudly takes control. She raises the red

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<v Speaker 3>flag on stage.

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<v Speaker 5>Comrade AOC with her vice presidential candidate, the literal bones

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<v Speaker 5>of Leon Trotsky running versus just an open chasm to

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<v Speaker 5>the pit of Hell, an actual crack in the earth

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<v Speaker 5>through which you can see the ephemeral forms of demons

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<v Speaker 5>roiling in the magma below. That's gotta be a great

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<v Speaker 5>gotta be a great one. Really excited for those conventions.

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<v Speaker 1>And or Donald Trump Junior.

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Trump and Donald Trump finally the dream team.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe they could open up a chasm to Hell.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what would be more likely is if Eric

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<v Speaker 5>Trump and Donald Trump Junior are on the same team

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<v Speaker 5>with a bunch of secret Service agents, that we finally

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<v Speaker 5>finally have a presidential election decided from a fentanyl overdose.

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<v Speaker 5>They get some tampered coke.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, the podcast is over. I'm gonna go dine out.

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<v Speaker 5>Goodbye.

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