WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - New Era On The Horizon 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.520 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:10.440 he got jacked. This is the big Red Rain, presented 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.720 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown. Slam 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.479 to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:23.040 came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:28.960 you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.159 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.880 And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:46.680 Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.440 taking it over. Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.120 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.800 It doesn't get any better than that, Unleash the far. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.000 If we were to start by listing things that are 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:11.160 obsolete or no longer in the NFL, Ron Wolfley, what 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.560 would come to mind? Dumb that rolls, it's good, single 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.640 bar face masks, right, I mean like goal posts in 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:26.200 the front of the end zone, turf shoes as an 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:31.040 AstroTurf yep stick them dripping off player's arms. Right, Lester 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.360 Hey shoulder How about shoulder pads wider across than Navy 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.240 flight deck like you used to wear back in the day. Oh, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.800 those are awesome, right there, play, I'd also have to 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.520 say real eye black. I just don't see a lot 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.880 of that anymore. And there's an addition to the list. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.960 May we suggest the word off season? I mean, what 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.480 is this word off season? There is nothing off about 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.080 the non game season. That's what I'm calling it. Game season, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.520 a non game season because games ended on Sunday, and 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.880 we are busier than ever on this edition of The 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.840 Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.440 are santan Ford, Paul LVC, and Ron Wolfley. Think about it, right, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.120 think about everything that has happened just in the last 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.760 third what forty eight to seventy two hours since that 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.200 game ended, since the season ended on Sunday. And we'll 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.200 get to everything, but Wolf maybe just a couple of 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.160 general takeaways. None of this, I'm guessing, is that much 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.480 of a surprise. We knew when the final raps were 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.160 put on a four and thirteen season there will be changed, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.000 right Yeah, Paul, I mean I think we all suspected 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:41.240 that there could possibly be change with all the distractions, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.440 with everything that happened with the injuries, situation being what 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.079 it is, you did wonder that, hey, maybe it might 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.639 be a situation where the organization looks at Cliff Kingsbury 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.760 end his coaching staff and says, hey, listen, we realize 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.840 a lot of things went wrong, and a lot of 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:05.160 things when sideways last season and there were distractions goal 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.520 or distraction after the distraction PAULI. That to me, more 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.960 than anything else, made me think maybe there is a chance, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.440 just maybe they'll give Cliff and his staff another year 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:22.040 to come back and fix the problem. Because knowing Bill 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.240 Belichick and knowing the type of coach that he is, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.680 in the philosophy that he had, he always wanted us 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:36.280 to eliminate all distractions in our life, whether it was personal, professional, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.960 whatever it was, eliminate the distractions and don't bring them 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.640 into the locker room. And man, that's all there seemed 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.600 to be last year, And that made me think maybe 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.440 there might be a chance that Cliff and his staff 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.839 will come back. But then on Monday the announcement was made. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.400 It was officially official Cliff Kingsbury and Steve Kie will 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.480 no longer be with the organization you're as team owner, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.640 Michael will we all thought that we would take the 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.800 next step up after having achieved a playoff appearance last year. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.520 It didn't happen. The people in this room and our 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.520 fans know all the reasons why, dating back to last year. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.800 That different factors that worked against us. Still not an 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.080 excuse and we expected better. I expected better and we 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.040 deserve better. Any sight of the San Francisco forty nine 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.680 ers who put a heck of a team out on 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.240 that field with a third string rookie quarterback. So yes, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.080 injuries are part of the game, but a lot of 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.080 the same issues and air self inflicted airs that you 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.200 saw at the beginning of the season, you were still 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.000 seen at the end of the season. And by the 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.520 time the season ended, well, you had a four and 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.919 thirteen campaign and since you started ten and two, Wolf, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.520 it's a team that has lost eighteen of twenty three. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.200 So change was needed. Yeah, there's no doubt, Paul. It's 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:59.000 very difficult for me. I do believe that Cliff Kingsbury 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.400 is a good co which I do believe that Cliff 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.960 Kingsbury ultimately will have the opportunity maybe to prove that someday. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.040 For whatever reason, it just did not work out here. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.080 I think coming in Cliff Kingsbury had to change some things, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.880 and he really didn't change an awful lot. As a 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:23.960 matter of fact, I think Cliff doubled down on some 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.880 of the culture he had already built here, and I 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.480 think in the end it came back to bite him 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.960 in the butt. Yeah. When the Cardinals were at their 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.520 best under Cliff Kingsbury, they were really running the ball. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.520 It was a balanced offense. It was a physical brand offense, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.279 at least enough to keep a defense honest, you know. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.440 And there were a couple of curiosities. Wolf, I'll be honest. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.760 You go out Week fifteen with Trace McSorley throws it 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.320 forty five times when James Connor average five point three 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.480 yards per carry. Cole McCoy Weeks sixteen to Denver on 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.360 that third and one to the thirty four is zone. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.960 Read with thirty six year old Cole McCoy. That the 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.480 risk reward on that right. And then like week seventeen 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.839 at Atlanta, David blows for starts. Since twenty nineteen, David 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.520 blow at forty pass attempts when again James Connor was 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.240 averaging five yards of carry. You had only got sixteen carries. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.960 So there were just certain trends. I think that just 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.120 never seemed to go away. Yeah, and not only that too, Paul. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.520 I think the harsh reality, the harsh reality that the 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.120 pendulum was swinging when Cliff came into the league, his 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.760 new age offense, Paul, and the new way of thinking 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.640 in regard to the game of football really was swinging 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.680 to the right man, it was swinging all the way 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.280 up there. It was going to take over. It felt 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.960 like it was going to take over the league. And 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.840 that pendulum has come way back to the center where 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.280 it's more of a blend of the old and the new, Paul. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:50.320 And there's no excuse, I think, for the most part, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.200 and no reason why any culture for a football team 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:00.120 should not include physicality in the line of scrimmage and 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.520 running the ball and stopping the run. And I do 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.760 believe that's part of the culture that got lost here 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.400 over the last couple of years. That's what makes this 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.840 so intriguing. You know what sort of head coach and 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.960 GM is the owner looking for. Here's Michael Bidwell. The 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.920 search is started for both the general manager and for 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.960 a head coach. We're going to cast them that far 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.440 and wide. We are going to look at internal candidates 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:32.560 and external candidates. We're not looking at particularly offense or defense. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.360 The preference is to get a general manager in place first, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.160 but if that doesn't happen, we're not going to be 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:43.760 afraid to hire the right head coach. And I've already 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.480 interviewed two internal candidates for general manager, Adrian Wilson and 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:52.880 Quentin Harris. I've also interviewed one external candidate, and we've 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.440 got interviews later this week. In fact, per NFL Network, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.600 they've already interviewed former Giants GM Jerry Reese. They requested 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.400 permission interview Bears assistant jim Ian Cunningham, along with Niners 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.160 Director of pro Personnel Ran Carthon. They also requested permission 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.520 but were declined by another member that Niners front office, 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:18.000 Adam Peters, and then monteosasan Fort, was also a direct 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.000 Tennessee Director of player personnel, and they requested permission interview 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.520 him as well. Yeah, you know what I like about that, Polly. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.920 For the most part, when you think of those last 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.320 three names right there, the two gentlemen from the forty 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.240 nine Ers and then of course from the Tennessee Titans. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.160 But you want to talk about teams that have a culture. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.800 You want to talk about teams that are very, very physical, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.080 and in particular, I would say that on the line 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:48.600 of scrimmage for the most part, offensively and defensively, two 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.280 teams that really know how to get after it. And 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.920 I wonder, Palli if that isn't an indicator as to 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.400 the direction in which Michael Bidwell in the organization should 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.600 maybe moving in terms of culture, in terms of going 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:09.600 out and what they foresee as being important to them 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.319 in the coming days and weeks. Well, Michael Bidwell was 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.280 asked about urgency and whether he feels it in conducting 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.200 this search. Oh, yes, there's an incredible sense of urgency. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.800 And believe me, I've been exchanging texts and messages and 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.400 phone calls and getting the input of a lot of 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.199 folks and trying to get a three hundred and sixty 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.760 degree view of a number of candidates. You know, there 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.839 is no fixed list at this point. I'm trying to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.040 cast the net as far and wide as i can. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.400 But there are four other openings between Houston and Carolina 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.320 and Indian denver So and then we got the news 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.520 about Sean Payton this afternoon about how Sean Payton and 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.200 the Cardinals, while the Cardinals have a requested permission to 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.560 speak with a former Saints head coach still property of 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.200 the Saints, that's according to NFL Network. Now he can't 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.160 formally interview with any team until January seventeen, but you 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.360 can have conversations, and the Cardinals ever requested as much 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.960 to speak with Sean Payton. This is going to be 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.680 really interesting, Paulie, to see how this unfolds, because you 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.080 know that Sean Payton is going to generate an awful 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.719 lot of interest and already has at least reportedly. There 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.280 are going to be teams, multiple teams that are out 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.920 there right now. And you also have to wonder, is 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:33.280 it is Jim Harbaugh actually in the equation right here 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.160 for other teams? It appears as though he is getting 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.280 some love, he is getting some juice from some other 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.800 teams that are out there right now. Could that be 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.200 a name possibly, If in fact, this net is going 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.679 to be cast very far and wide, could he possibly 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.320 be a name? I don't see that happening here, but 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.480 it would be interesting to see if in fact they 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.560 do speak with him. Well, he does have connections with 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.320 the Colts Jim Harbaugh, right and ownership. There's a former 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.800 Colts quarterback. He does have connections with the new Broncos 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.280 front office from some of the Stamford days, and some 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.520 of those same decision makers who were at Stamford are 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.720 now with the Broncos. So that is intriguing. You're absolutely right, Wolf, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.480 And as we know and has been speculated upon, Sean 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.760 Payton will require compensation to the New Orleans Saints. So 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.520 what is a Sean Payton, a proven head coach with 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.680 a Super Bowl ring? What does culture work to you? 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.840 Because he does come as his self contain proven head coach. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.000 There's gonna be a lot of discussion about that, and 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.800 a lot of discussion about what Sean Payton really wants. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.680 If you believe some of the reports out there, he's 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.440 been doing homework on the Cardinals and he's a Kyler 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.480 Murray fan quote end quote. According to Tom Pellicero on 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.200 the NFL Network, we continue with a big red rage 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.480 presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.559 Cliff Kingsbury, I mean, somebody who I've really grown to 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:09.240 like and appreciate just a great man. I've been around 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.280 this organization my entire life, and I don't know any 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.720 coach that has worked harder than Cliff Kingsbury. He has 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.839 put in countless hours and we had a good long 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:25.960 conversation today and which I told him I'm really sorry 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.160 because this is a tough decision. But at the same time, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.160 it was a decision that needed to be made, and 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.560 I wished it could have worked out better for him, 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.120 because in terms of putting in the effort, there's a 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.000 guy that really deserved to have the outcome that we 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.360 were all expecting. You know what's really strange here at 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.640 the Arizona Cardinals Dignity Health Training Center, it's a big 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.880 red rage present him by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.480 are Santan Ford Ron Wolf of there. Paul Kelvey's here. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.640 When you're at the facility, Wolf and you know this, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.240 and you don't see Cliff Kingsbury's Ford rapp or a 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.960 pickup truck right when it was always there, to the 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.120 point where I'm like, did his battery die? And that 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.720 truck never leaves. He's the first one in, he's the 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.840 last one out. Michael Bidwell is not kidding when you 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.040 just talk about the sheer work ethic of a Cliff Kingsbury. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.240 Now it's all about productivity in the NFL, and ultimately 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.760 that was a deciding factor. But I think you would 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.559 echo those comments. Yeah, no, Polly, I am a Cliff 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.160 Kingsbury fan. I really am. Yes, his philosophy when it 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.760 comes to the game of football was not my philosophy 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.440 for the most part. But this is a guy that 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.520 is incredibly smart. And what I also appreciated about Cliff 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.840 is he's humble as well. And you don't see a 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.720 lot of guys that have that combination of being smart, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.720 really smart, and humble, and that's what Cliff was. For 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.319 the most part. I appreciate the fact that he wasn't dogmatic, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.680 he wasn't a chip Kelly. I've spoken of this many times. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.880 He wasn't coming into the league and thought he was 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.240 going to change the league forever. And we saw that 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.320 in year one when he came in the first half 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.040 of twenty nineteen, Polly, he was running the air raid. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.800 For the most part, he was running it, and suddenly 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.280 it wasn't working. It was sputtering, So they moved to 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.960 more twelve personnel, two tight ends, more of a power scheme, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.040 and suddenly they played better in the second half. He 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.320 wasn't trying to prove a point. He came in, and 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.840 yes he had a different agenda in terms of offensive football, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.000 but he came in and he wasn't trying to prove 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.400 a point. He was trying to win games. And by 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.520 the way Kyler Murray progressed from his rookie year to 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.680 his second year to his third year, he got better 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.360 every year. The first three years in the league, it 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.720 was undeniable Cliff Kingsbury and his staff. They were bringing 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.720 along not only Kyler Murray, but also the entire team. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.640 That's why they got into the postseason. Yes, I understand 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.040 they collapsed in the second half of the season in 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.920 year three, and yes, I understand that postseason game wasn't 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.320 good by any stretch of the imagination, but they brought 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.960 Kyler along and they brought the team along as well. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.960 I just feel like this move when you hear Michael 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.440 said it was a move that needed to happen for me, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.800 that speaks to Kyler Murray and believing whether or not 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.880 Cliff could actually take Kyler Murray to the next level 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.280 of quarterback play, and as Michael told the media, it's 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.480 not as if anyone is hitting the easy button. Ten 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.840 months ago, Cliff Kingsbury got a significant contract extension that 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.120 would be paid off. In fact, Peter Schreger NFL Network 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.840 had a conversation with Cliff Kingsbury Monday afternoon. Cliff I 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.080 spoke to him yesterday after he got the news. Actually 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.000 said mister Bidwell was incredibly classy, brought him in and 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.480 they had an emotional Farewell Bidwell and Cliff had no 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.200 beef by any means, If anything, Cliff really studied the ship. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.840 I mean, once Mix City happened and you had the 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.400 situation with the offensive line coach, and you come back 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.760 and the general manager takes a leave of absence, you're 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.960 talking about leadership roles being gone. And Cliff said, put 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.480 it on me. I understand. And they hadn't won any 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.560 games and they were going down this road, and I 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.000 think Bidwell decided that for the better of this organization, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.480 let's just start with a clean slate. If you're mister 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.520 Bidwell and and you're looking at this, you're like, you 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.400 must really want to clean start because you're eating that 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.400 number and if you're the fans, you've got to feel 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.160 at least enthused that the owner isn't worried about, well, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.440 what's my wallet saying he's going for this thing. Yeah, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.360 that's ownership money. That's not deadcamp money. You know, that's 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.080 ownership money. That's a sunk cost. That's called in business 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.640 failing fast. You saw it after Steve Wilkes. You know 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.200 that contract was absorbed as well, now with Cliff kingsburying 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.880 that extension, same with Steve Kime. So obviously it says 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.160 that when things aren't training in the right direction, then 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.600 guess what the necessary moves will be made. In fact, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.280 speaking of here's Michael Bidwell just on what it's going 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.960 to take PAP financially to find the best candidates. Well, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.400 what I'm willing to do financially is get the best 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.120 coach and the best GM. I don't know the biggest 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.960 name correlates to the best coach, So I guess what 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.200 I would say is, I definitely want to make sure 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.399 that we get the best coach and the best general 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.879 manager for this team. Will live with the financial consequences 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.160 and you guys don't have to worry about it. We'll 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.080 take care of that. So we'll manage our way through. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.520 And that's great. We know all about this season, and 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.000 you know you document it. It's very real. The off 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.800 the field distractions very much played into the on field product. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.159 All you have to do is talk to some of 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.159 the players, and a couple of them actually went on 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.040 the record and said as much on Monday when they're 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.600 cleaning out their their lockers. Here's the thing, though, you 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.879 had a record setting five of the ten teams that 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.000 hire new coaches last year made the playoffs. Doug Peterson 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.720 took Jacksonville from worst of first, Brian Dable made the playoffs, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.919 Kevin O'Connell, Mike McDaniel, Todd Bowl. So it's doable, right, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:02.200 These first year coaches can make the postseason if you 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.359 find the right candidate. Yeah, and especially too, because I 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.119 think the Arizona Cardinals could actually free up some cap 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.199 space here and there's a lot of free agents of 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.919 course that are going to be leaving, and that really 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.800 aligns with having a new general manager and a new 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.399 head coach, whoever that may be, whatever the combination may be, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.800 and bringing them in here trying to make some type 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.560 of move from worst to first whatever it may be. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.679 I think that's a possibility, Paulie. But I will say this, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.399 when I listen to Michael Bidwell's say, you know, what's 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.840 to hire the best head coach and the best general manager? 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.080 You know, so much of that makes me think of 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.040 Kyler Murray. It does. And I know we're going to 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.840 talk about this in a little bit more detail eventually, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.080 but for me, it is about, Okay, what head coach 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.399 has the best chance of actually reaching Kyler Murray and 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.760 being able to take Kyler Murray to that next level 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.920 physically and mentally. Of course, what's the best GM that 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.639 might be able to put a team around Kyler Murray 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.960 and taking him to that next level of quarterback play 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.359 he and the team well. When it comes to having 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.520 a plan and what ownership is looking for, Michael Bidwell 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.640 was asked about that, I think the key is casting 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.120 the net far and wide, making sure that we've got 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.280 somebody with a very good plan, with right leadership skills 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.040 that can come in not only a GM, but also 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.560 it head coach. I don't know that we're as broken 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.040 as maybe people think. I mean, our record is terrible, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.080 but when you look at the talent on this team, 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.960 We've got a lot of talent. We've just got to 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.600 make sure that they're all playing together. I go back 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.119 to Hard Knocks and the locker room scene after the 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.280 loss to New England and Cliff addressing the team when 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.879 he said, and I'm quoting this, it's maybe a fault 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:02.880 of mine, but I'm going to treat you like men. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.879 So we have to hold each other accountable. Yet accountabilities 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.800 seem to be a persistent problem throughout the season. They 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:11.520 try to address it in the off season. I think 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:16.000 Hard Knocks, that's still my theory, was enacted to add 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.560 another layer of accountability. Yet you just didn't see it. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.240 You didn't see the attention to detail. James Connor talked 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.439 about that with the media. You heard it in Hard Knocks, 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.440 and one of his speeches is about the details about 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.159 locking in. So when you talk about culture, well, I 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.679 think that's a byproduct of what the Cardinals are looking for. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.879 And Michael Bidwill said at one point, and I have 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:39.840 it right here, he said, make sure you have a 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.679 culture of a locker room that's focused on maximum effort 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.480 that one begets the other. Yes, Polly, culture, culture, culture, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.639 you know, Paul how big I am on this and 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:56.120 culture is nothing more than a collection of definitive statements 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.080 that you make about who you are and what you're 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.879 going to do. Like, for instance, we're going to be 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:06.040 the most physical team in the league. Is that is 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.560 what you believe, You're gonna say it, You're gonna speak it, 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.480 and then you're gonna try to fulfill that. We're gonna 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.359 be you know, we're gonna build our depth chart on 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.840 the foundation of discipline. We're gonna practice the game of 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.840 football hard. And if you don't believe in practicing football hard, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.400 there's a chance you're not going to be here. It's 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.760 a collection of definitive statements about beliefs that you have 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:38.080 and man, I'll tell you, it helps you pick guys 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.240 that are out there, whether you're in the draft, whether 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:46.240 it's free agency. It helps the general manager in particular, 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.040 and it's the reason why he's got to have the 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.680 blessing of the head coach. But it helps that team 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.680 go out and fill the roster positions that you have 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.879 with guys who believe that stuff. You know, we have 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.879 conversations with Drew stand at the stadium. Obviously he was 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.360 on the Red Sea Report this week. Wolf with Craig Grigor, 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.200 little Kyle Vanabosh, and he's asked about some of these 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.960 young offensive head coaches, you know this wave that you 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.000 cited right the last few years, and how half of 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:19.320 seemingly failed, And according to Drew, the most important thing 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.280 beyond the xes and ohs is you have to be 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.320 a great leader of men. So whereas yes, these are 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.920 great offensive minds and game planners and play callers, can 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.280 you lead the locker room? Can you get the most 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:36.840 out of your roster? And that's what really separates those 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:42.680 long term head coaches who flourish from those who may 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.720 not make it to a second or third contract. So 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:47.919 I thought that was intriguing. In fact, we'll continue to 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:49.879 talk about Kyler Murray and what that means from the 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:51.680 new coaching staff when we come back. It is a 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.320 big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:22:54.359 --> 0:23:02.159 are santan Ford, all right. Let's started out with Robert 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.920 Downey junior. All right, So here's the deal, empty set 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.720 now from Murray. Three receivers right, of course, it is 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.560 snapped to Kyler looking right now back in the middle. 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.520 Now runs to the right. A lot of right here, 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.680 three right turns brings you back to the same place, 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.800 I believe, all right, Morgan Freeman, then from here on out, 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:27.679 looking still dancing around, pointing, still holding the ball like 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.000